July 31, 2025 • 26 mins
In this heartfelt episode, Dr. Branch reflects on the profound loss of Malcolm-Jamal Warner, known to many as Theo Huxtable from The Cosby Show. With a heavy heart, he honors the legacy of both the actor and the character that shaped generations. Dr. Branch opens up about how Theo’s presence on screen mirrored parts of his own journey and inspired a sense of possibility for Black boys and families across the country.This episode explores the deeper meaning behind The Cosby Show—a show that painted a picture of a loving, intelligent, emotionally attuned Black household with a doctor for a father, a lawyer for a mother, and real-life conversations about money, mentorship, college, identity, and purpose. It wasn't just entertainment. It was a blueprint for what we could be.Dr. Branch uses the lens of The 3 Parallels. Who we were, who we are, and who we’re becoming to process this moment of grief and gratitude. This is more than a tribute. It’s a conversation about impact, legacy, and the echoes left behind when someone like Malcolm-Jamal Warner enters the culture and helps shift it.
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🎯 3 Challenges (Lifework)
1. Reflect on the Blueprint
Take 10 minutes this week to write down what shows, characters, or public figures shaped your early vision of adulthood, family, or success. What did they teach you? What messages did you carry with you? Are those still serving you?
2. Define Your Legacy
Ask yourself: If someone made a show about my life, what would it teach others? Jot down 3 core values or lessons you hope others take from your story. Then, think of one way to live that out more intentionally this week.
3. Revisit Representation
Watch one episode of a show that inspired you growing up. Don’t just watch for nostalgia. Look for what it taught you about relationships, careers, emotional expression, or family. Then talk to a friend, partner, or journal about how that message still shows up in your life today—or how it needs to evolve.
This episode is brought to you by our amazing sponsor:
J Branch & Associates: Schedule your free 15 minute consultation by going to www.drjbranch.com; call or text (404) 436-2540
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Three Parallel, three Parallel, Three Parallel, three Parallel podcast. Welcome
back to her Three Parallels podcast, which your host, the
brother doctor Jason Branch, coming to you today to talk
(00:22):
about the three Parallels, meaning I offer experiences to those
individuals who have a desire to rediscover who they once were,
embrace who they actually are, and make room for who
they're trying to become. If that is you, this is
your podcast. You're in the right place. This is your community,
(00:44):
this is your tribe, this is your these are your people.
I need you to know that. So welcome, if you knew,
if you're old, welcome whoever you are. Welcome. So I'm
coming to you live from battle Cat Studios. Where's Battlecast
with Studios Wherever the hell I say it is Boldcast
Studios is whatever, wherever, whenever, However, and today I'm coming
(01:08):
to you from the best place on earth, the driver
side of my car, because the worst place on Earth
is in the trunk.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
If you think of anything related to.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
You know, growth, evolution, it's you know, knowing where you
were in the trunk, knowing where you are right now
in the driver's seat, knowing where you will be in
a different car when you understand these parallels. Life is
just very different for you, So welcome aboard. Now that
(01:47):
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(02:09):
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to miss out. Dive in and bring a friend. So
today's show, I'm coming in with a heavy heart, a
heavy heart because we and I say we because again
we're part of the culture. We just lost three heroes
(02:31):
of our time in real life, and those three this
is as fresh off the press as I can produce
this me and Maestro, I might add, so I don't
know when is out, but this is what I'm feeling today.
Three legends we lost Hulk, Hogan, Ozzy Osbourne and Malcolm
(02:53):
Jamal Warner and Man. Out of these three, the one
that hit me the most, that impacted me the most.
I'm sure I'm not alone with what I'm going to
share today, and I'm kind of laid back in my car,
like literally, this is my studio today and we just
(03:14):
gonna talk because that's what we do anyway. Well, yeah,
we talk to each other because I can hear y'all.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I need you.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I need you to know when y'all be laughing with me,
when y'all be like having those moment we're like, oh okay,
oh Brad Crumb, when y'all had these outward projection of
verbal confirmation. I hear y'all, So keep doing it, and
every different version of you, here's you too. So talk
that shit baby talking because I'm about to because that's
(03:41):
what I do and I can't turn it off, all right.
So the heavy heart is due to connection to an
idea and out of these three deaths or losses for
all of us as part of this community, the loss
of Michael Jamal Warren Or hit home for me like
(04:02):
it really punched me in the throat and the gut
head and honey bun, sour dough everything else in between.
I got hit and I'm not alone and I'm grieving,
which is you know, part of the shades and being
in the cockpit because this is the safest place for
me at this time. This is my shell, this is
(04:23):
the bunker. This is how you cover yourself, this is
how you protect you. So I'm in a safe space
of brave space, and I'm sharing with you because you family.
You family, So how dare I not give family some
love and dive into the basement related to grief of
an idea of a person. And I'm fin to talk
(04:45):
on a lot of different levels. So catch up, keep up,
find you, hot dog. You need to catch up and
keep up.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I love this damn show. Okay, I don't care what
y'all think.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I need you to. I need to verbalize it. I
don't care what you think. I like it.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
This is why I'm doing this shit. It works for me.
I'm entertaining to me. I don't know how y'all feel.
You don't tell me. I've been asking, Hey, how you
talking to me? Just hopping the chat, hopping the comments.
How y'all be like, Nah, I'm gonna listen, but I'm
gonna stay back here. I'm a salamander and I'm asking
you all to be gators. And what that means is
(05:22):
reach out, email, text, social media, stool pigeon, snail mail,
reach out. Man. I want to know what y'all know,
and what y'all know is based off of what we
experienced together on the show any way. So Malcolm Jamal
Warner's loss for us as a community was like losing
(05:46):
a big brother, like a mentor, like the old the
teenager down the street when you was in elementary school,
who had a mom and dad in the crib. I
ain't never experienced that. I don't know about you. I
neverended it, you know, in a brownstone in New York,
Like what parents is? A lawyer and a doctor? What
(06:06):
the only boy in this house? Full of love, family,
emotional intelligence, lessons and everything else in between. And that
television show, for those who don't know, Welcome to the culture.
The Cosby Show was a show that changed the culture
(06:27):
in so many different ways, and Malcolm Jamal Warner was
a part of a cultural shift. And we grew as
he grew personally and professionally. We saw who he was,
who he is, who he became in its entirety from
(06:47):
the moment we saw him on television, from that moment
of that how old he was at that time to.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
His last day.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
He gave us access. He gave us access, and that
show did not define him, however it was.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
It was a show he was on. He was a
part of.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
An organic experience that is etched in the minds and
hearts of so many different people cclude me, which is
why this episode is dedicated to him. And it's like
losing family because it's so connected. Like whenever you started
watching the Cosmi Show, wherever you've seen it, you saw him.
(07:29):
He saw who he was. When the Cosby Show was over,
you saw who he was becoming like. He was the
first guy to me he was. This is for me.
I don't know no facts. Maybe AI could tell me,
Maybe y'all could tell me. Put it in the comments.
Talk to you boy. You know, my belief is he's
the reason. He's the pebble in the pond that made
(07:49):
the ripple of Neo. So ah, this is my belief, man,
This is how much I value this man. I need
you all know that. It's my belief. He started because
the first person I ever noticed that was dressing like
dwel A was malcol Jamal Warner, meaning duel A. In
my mind, dwell A got his loop from mal Jamarin Warner.
The whole neo soul tried community into my In my opinion,
(08:14):
they got the swag from malcol Jamarin Water.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
In my humble o pincuse, he's the first person I saw.
He had the dreads.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
If you watch him on TV, he smelled like a
nice natural oil. He was full of oils. He was
doing poetry, spoken word. He was on the up and up.
He experienced a loss, you know, losing his tragically losing
his fiance.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You know, we was a part.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Of that and like him working through that grief, and like, man,
we were there, We were there.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
And it feels like, man, we lost one.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
We lost a legend because to me, he impacted the
culture himself.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
The show took it to a whole other level.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
So no matter what he was in, what he was doing,
he was always viewed at first as man that a theo.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Oh they a theo man. Then eventually he got.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
To a place where man, that's Michael to Mama Warner,
oh that's the theo. You know what I'm saying, Like
who he was, who he is, who we've gone right,
So being a part of that era, you know, in
the nineties. Growing up with that is like, I view
life differently because of it. Again, he the only boy
I identify. I couldn't identify with two parent household. They
make one of the six figures. You know, main household.
(09:28):
I know, single parent minimum wage. I don't know nothing
about that life brownstough shit, brown carpet, that's what we have.
It's brown. So I don't know about that. But it
gave me an idea, It gave me a vision, It
gave me an ability to dream.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
All of us.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
And there's so many people that went to college that's
part of the culture. So many people that went to
college because of this television yow, so many people that
saw themselves differently because of this television. Joe, make you
an example, and I'll talk about Pill Cosby and this
ain't about him. We got to talk about it. We
(10:06):
talking about three parallels. Okay, who you were, who you are?
People coming those three dim people were talking about three
even Cosby's that we see. We don't know the other
sides anyway. That ain't none of my damn business.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
This is.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
So one of the most memorable moments on that television
show Cosby Show. For those who still knew Catching On
Cliff Hucks. Cliff Huxtable character played by Bill Cosby was
Theo's dad. Lamon Warner character says dad and THEO wanted
and I'm gonna use THEO the character THEO wanted to
(10:40):
just get out and be grown so bad, and his
dad was like, all right, cool, you want to be grown,
let me show you some grown bills with some little
boy money.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
And man, it was one of the best for me.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
It was one of the best episodes on that show
for me because I didn't have that experience growing up
with my dad. And what experience they have had at
the time was his dad physically, visibly, mentally, like, emotionally,
spiritually showed him real life without him having to experience
(11:13):
it first in real time. So they use monopoly money
to do this apartment, you know, and he set it
up so perfectly, so brilliantly, like, man, how did you
think of that?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Set up?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
The rules and everything, and then the whole family, everybody's
in character and it's real. Nobody's breaking character. We're not
playing with you, man, cause these streets are not playing
with you. So his sister's mo like everybody man. And
by the end of the experience. He was broke, which
means you broke at home. Bro, you still good.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
We got you.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
But imagine if you did it your way, went out
here in these streets thinking you was wrong, you be
back at the crib. However, imagine how much you lose
from that versus losing from this. Come on, y'all, come on, man,
That show is That show is everything to me.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
And because that gave me the.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Vision at that age, however old I was, before I
ever thought about kids manage anything. That gave me the idea.
Oh my god, I can't wait to do that with
my kids. Guess what I got two boys, four and two.
I cannot wait.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I cannot wait.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
And I will always pay homage to the show, to
the characters, to the identity, to the idea. THEO is
part of that. He was the guy.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
He was me as a dad.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Now he was me. Then he was all of us,
because at one point in time in your life there's
a path that crossed. You know again, big bro down
the street. Mentor like he was cool, he was chilled,
he was he was who he was. There's no other
character like him, there's no other person like him. Was
(13:01):
my warner. He was.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
He didn't roll no crewe. He did his own thing
and he was cool with it.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
His relationship with his father like that came towards the
end and just being a dad himself.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
We saw him man, and to lose that.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Speaks volumes to who we are and where we are
right now and what advantages we have and what we
don't have. He didn't know, and he ended his life
based off of how he lived. His last one of
his last posts was, shoot, I'm not feeling the best
life been life and but it's my daughter's birthday.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
She gave me a flower. Let me pour into you today.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Although you know, the energy was just like man, you
know I'm here, I'm still here and I'm still giving.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And he gave Man.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
He gave his entire life from again, the from birth
to death. And for us we had access when the
first time he was on film, and we had access
for years after years because he did several things after that,
Malcolm and Eddie.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
You know, he's been guess and periods, He's done a lot.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Then he moved into podcast and like being on podcast again,
he gave us access and I'm thankful for that and
I have to celebrate this moment because right now visibly
in my mind because I wanted to record this, but
I wanted to record this with my human sweatshirt on
to pay homage. And I'm like, I want to do
this now. Why am I waiting to go get a sweatshirt?
(14:23):
Why do I have to be perfect? I don't know.
Now if you're hearing this audibly, I got a humans
I got a human sweatshirt on with the seal in
the middle. You know what I mean. This is my
senior year. No, actually, I'm a professor here. Excuse me.
I'm down playing me. So those audio you get it.
I'm in a human sweatshirt. Those watching on video imagine
I'm in one. Because yeah, I'm wearing a little dry
(14:50):
fit shirt because you know I'll walk and try to
take care of me. But if I could, this is
a this is a dry fit Helman workout shirt. Why
because I said so, there it is. I'm mocking it,
but nobody knows for sure unless you see. Even then
I can deny it. Think about your uncle at Thanksgiving. Oh,
(15:14):
open the door a little bit in that basement. Let's
get back to the show. So THEO you can walk here.
I want you.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I want you. I want to teach you about culture.
I challenge you. Ain't gonta do this.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
But if you were to walk in any room wearing
a particular shirt, you're going to get a particular response.
If you were to go in the room and to
say a particular name, you would get a particular response.
And what is that a garden guard trail? The garden
(15:46):
god trail. That shirt is historical. It needs to be
in the museum. If it's not, that shirt represents the culture.
And if you don't know, let me educate you. The
being a teenager. I was a teenager. We all were teenagers.
If you weren't, let me know. Call Anejo on the
(16:07):
show whatever stage you miss, I, come on here, let's
talk about it. I went from a kid to an adult.
Come on. But anyway, so trying to be like the
cool kid, yo, I want this this Gordon Contrail shirt.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
It's a it's a you know, expensive shirt.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Blah blah bla's ninety two dollars and this was in
the ninety ninety two dollars a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Now Gordon Contrail is probably three hundreds.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Gordon con Trail now three hunds easy, easy or maybe
up there with Burking.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I don't know, thirty nine undred teacher. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
But this shirt was everything, and he made it feel
like everything for us watching it. So he hyped up
the shirt the whole time. I wanted I want to
can't afford it, he asks us. Dad, Hey, man, I need.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
This going contrail.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I know you can afford you a doctor. And Dad
was like, whoa slow down, hold your host's boo. You
need a Gordon control job in order to get your
shirt because right now you can't afford it based off
of your income. And he was right again connecting dots.
He was right, and he can get.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
To your shit.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
You better figure it out, bro. That's discipline. That's boundaries,
you know what I'm saying. That's boundaries man. Again, just
being a TV dad. He was my dad. Part of it,
you know, because if you watch a man or a
woman and watch them do what they do and you
like it, you emulate it. If you don't like it,
(17:28):
you may emulate it too. Whatever it is. So that
show represented so much. So he ain't got the money.
He don't know how to get the money. Talk to
his sister, Finna, go to college. You know, Hey, you
don't need to get that shirt, Limb, let me make
it for you. You can do that.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, have the prize quart of the price.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, he got some hype about it, like, Yo, I'm
gonna pay you what the quarter of the price. A'ma
give you an extra because you got me. He believed
in his sister and it didn't matter. He wanted the
shirt so bad it did not matter. And sometimes we
want something so bad it don't matter. We cut corners
to get to it. Listen, this is for somebody, even
if it's for different versions of me. He tried to
(18:13):
cut corners and he got the results. It didn't matter.
Here's my money. Mostly I'm connected. I'm tied to this.
This has to be Give me the shirt because the
shirt represents who I want to be and to me,
THEO is Malcolm Jamar Warner is him? Who is him?
(18:33):
Gordon Goodtrail because you can't say that name without connecting
it to THEO. I need you to see three parallels. Okay,
you can do whatever you want to do with it,
but I'm just gonna give it to you. It's ripples
and breadcrumbs and everything. If you're paying attention, THEO made
that name what it is. And if there was a
person now that did exactly what some what creator did
(18:56):
to develop a Healman apparel that same person, different creator,
or maybe even me, I don't know if you connected it.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Let's wrap, let's make this thing. Let's make this thing happen.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
If you were to create an iconic brand like Guarding
Coatrell created a symbol, image and all that and put
it on shirts, it would sell. It would sell. How
do I know him In apparel is sold out more
often than not, even in twenty twenty five. Check it out.
I'll put a link in here so you can check
(19:26):
it out for yourself. See if yourself. I rock my
sweatshirt proudly because I'm the reason I went. Part of
the reason that I went to college was because I
recognized that I could. The Cosme show let me know
what I could do. So I'll take a piece of
this moment to talk about Pill Cosby, which I feel
(19:47):
like needs to be a different episode, but I'll just
give a teaser because I feel it so for me again,
three parallels who Bill Cosby was? We love, we admired,
we respect. That's because all that's all we knew. He
became a different version over time. Blah blah blah. Who
he became later was who what was in him? We
just had access. So I do not, you know, support
(20:11):
value or any of the allegations or the whatever he
did being convicted. I don't.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I don't take any of that likely. And you know
you got to You have.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
To pay for what you do, just true to believe
that you got to pay for it. An he paid,
an he's pain, and he may be paying more ways
than we know, but he has to pay. And I
need you to look at different sides of the coin
when it comes to us as human beings, because on
one side of the coin, this man impacted a culture,
he shifted a culture, and on the other side, he
(20:44):
shifted a culture that hurt a lot of people for
a long period of time. Just like the legacy he
left with, the Cosby showed that still impacts people from
now for a long period of time. You can have both.
We get to decide how we deal, how we manage
when people are people. That's another episode for another day. However,
(21:06):
the genius of this man, Bill Cosby, Cliffland Cliff Huxtable
gave life lessons in the nineties that's applicable to twenty
twenty five. And I'm going to start a journey because
of this experience, I feel moved to do it.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
To go through every.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Episode of The Cosby Show, no timeline, no deadline, but
go through everyone as the man I am now to
see things differently than I saw at that time. Because,
as you know, and if you don't, welcome to the club, movies,
television shows, that's happened. They don't change. They don't change.
(21:47):
We change, and that's why we see them differently. So
your life work challenge, a if you know you know challenge,
if you know you know your life work is to
be willing to step outside your comfort zone to discover
or rediscover who you actually supposed to be, not the character,
not that I did, not what somebody told you, but
(22:08):
who you actually supposed to be. Give yourself permission to
do just that. I would challenge you to do so.
In addition to that, what legacy are you leaving and
what value are you adding based on your creativity. Although
Bill Cosby made The Cosby Show, THEO made an idea
(22:31):
of what masculinity could look like his emotional intelligence on
the show, his physical prowess on the show, his naivete
his curiosity, who he was inside and out. Man was
a beautiful human being. And you can't play that type
of character without having that type of character. Come of Somebody,
(22:54):
get me off of this podcast, Oprah, Oprah, where are
you come here? Girl? Come here, let's talk. This is
too good for me again doing the shit for me, y'all.
I'm doing this for me, all different versions this therapeutic
for me. I ain't even know this was another aspect
of my therapy, but I know now for sure. So
if anybody got contact, noybody got access to Oprah, tell
(23:16):
her get at me asap. I want to sit at
the table table talk whatever talk you want to have.
When you to talk. I wanted to sit outout there
in that backyard with that wood table and in that
vineyard with people just bringing tea and water and liqu
up to our table. Gail is mining her damn business
stead man. We're finna go play pickle ball when I
(23:38):
get done with this podcast. And I ain't even worried
about to check, Oprah. You just cut it.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I ain't worried about it. You already cut the check.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Is anything I touched now got Oprah name on it,
and anything there that got got opraenh name.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
On it, you gonna buy it.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
There's that. So the yo, Malcolm Tabari wanna change the
culture for me as a man, as a black man
in these United States because they were talking about things
during that time that we're still talking about now or
we didn't talk about at the time. And it was
the first of his kid, good friend of mine, Leo Flowers,
(24:15):
who will be on show. We had a moment where
we talked about we processed this because we boys, you know,
we grew up around the same era era. He was
in Chicago at the time, I was in Dayton at
the time, but we grew up with it and we
were able to process and grieve together, like, man, do
you remember And we reflected like like we really literally
(24:36):
knew each other down the street and still all down
the street. That's how impactful he was to us and
the culture. And I'm thankful to have a platform to
give him his Flowers. I feel as though, you know,
if I ever would have met on my vision that
I have, it's just it was family. It was familiar
because he understood his assignment, he understood who he was.
(24:59):
He understood what was going on.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
If it did.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Even if he didn't know what was going on, he
understood because it was just him. Then the next to
him was Bill and his actual father. So if you
think about these things, you know, and he became a father,
if you think about all these things, like, we're impacted
by so many different things. Even this fictional character that
(25:23):
impacted all of our lives was played by a human
being doing human things, and we got a chance to
see who he was, who he became, and who he
was becoming. If this experience impacted you in any way,
do something about it. This has been another episode of
three Pelos podcast where we rediscovered who we were, we embrace
(25:44):
who we are, and we make room for who we're
trying to become. If this show has impacted you in
any way, shape warm and fashion, share it, give it away.
Do you want to pay homage to Malcolm Jamar and Warner,
give it away? Share it like chair, comment, dive in.
If that show or THEO himself or Michael Jo Warner
impacted you, inspired you in any way, hopping the comments,
(26:08):
shoot a message like really, let's talk about it, man,
Let's let's give him his flowers. So people know how
you impact somebody, even if you never met him. Man
I love us, Peace,
Three Parallel, three Parallel, Three Parallel, three Parallel podcast. Welcome
back to her Three Parallels podcast, which your host, the
brother doctor Jason Branch, coming to you today to talk
(00:22):
about the three Parallels, meaning I offer experiences to those
individuals who have a desire to rediscover who they once were,
embrace who they actually are, and make room for who
they're trying to become. If that is you, this is
your podcast. You're in the right place. This is your community,
(00:44):
this is your tribe, this is your these are your people.
I need you to know that. So welcome, if you knew,
if you're old, welcome whoever you are. Welcome. So I'm
coming to you live from battle Cat Studios. Where's Battlecast
with Studios Wherever the hell I say it is Boldcast
Studios is whatever, wherever, whenever, However, and today I'm coming
(01:08):
to you from the best place on earth, the driver
side of my car, because the worst place on Earth
is in the trunk.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
If you think of anything related to.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
You know, growth, evolution, it's you know, knowing where you
were in the trunk, knowing where you are right now
in the driver's seat, knowing where you will be in
a different car when you understand these parallels. Life is
just very different for you, So welcome aboard. Now that
(01:47):
that's done, you're in your notebook for every episode. Get
you a notebook so you can take some notes. Because
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that's just hitting in place. Site that is available for
you if you are open to receive what is offered.
If you're need a journal, I'm glad you asked. The
Gator Scale journal is available to you now. Dive in
(02:09):
bring a friend, so check it out. It's a great
tool and the book is coming, so you don't want
to miss out. Dive in and bring a friend. So
today's show, I'm coming in with a heavy heart, a
heavy heart because we and I say we because again
we're part of the culture. We just lost three heroes
(02:31):
of our time in real life, and those three this
is as fresh off the press as I can produce
this me and Maestro, I might add, so I don't
know when is out, but this is what I'm feeling today.
Three legends we lost Hulk, Hogan, Ozzy Osbourne and Malcolm
(02:53):
Jamal Warner and Man. Out of these three, the one
that hit me the most, that impacted me the most.
I'm sure I'm not alone with what I'm going to
share today, and I'm kind of laid back in my car,
like literally, this is my studio today and we just
(03:14):
gonna talk because that's what we do anyway. Well, yeah,
we talk to each other because I can hear y'all.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I need you.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I need you to know when y'all be laughing with me,
when y'all be like having those moment we're like, oh okay,
oh Brad Crumb, when y'all had these outward projection of
verbal confirmation. I hear y'all, So keep doing it, and
every different version of you, here's you too. So talk
that shit baby talking because I'm about to because that's
(03:41):
what I do and I can't turn it off, all right.
So the heavy heart is due to connection to an
idea and out of these three deaths or losses for
all of us as part of this community, the loss
of Michael Jamal Warren Or hit home for me like
(04:02):
it really punched me in the throat and the gut
head and honey bun, sour dough everything else in between.
I got hit and I'm not alone and I'm grieving,
which is you know, part of the shades and being
in the cockpit because this is the safest place for
me at this time. This is my shell, this is
(04:23):
the bunker. This is how you cover yourself, this is
how you protect you. So I'm in a safe space
of brave space, and I'm sharing with you because you family.
You family, So how dare I not give family some
love and dive into the basement related to grief of
an idea of a person. And I'm fin to talk
(04:45):
on a lot of different levels. So catch up, keep up,
find you, hot dog. You need to catch up and
keep up.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I love this damn show. Okay, I don't care what
y'all think.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I need you to. I need to verbalize it. I
don't care what you think. I like it.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
This is why I'm doing this shit. It works for me.
I'm entertaining to me. I don't know how y'all feel.
You don't tell me. I've been asking, Hey, how you
talking to me? Just hopping the chat, hopping the comments.
How y'all be like, Nah, I'm gonna listen, but I'm
gonna stay back here. I'm a salamander and I'm asking
you all to be gators. And what that means is
(05:22):
reach out, email, text, social media, stool pigeon, snail mail,
reach out. Man. I want to know what y'all know,
and what y'all know is based off of what we
experienced together on the show any way. So Malcolm Jamal
Warner's loss for us as a community was like losing
(05:46):
a big brother, like a mentor, like the old the
teenager down the street when you was in elementary school,
who had a mom and dad in the crib. I
ain't never experienced that. I don't know about you. I
neverended it, you know, in a brownstone in New York,
Like what parents is? A lawyer and a doctor? What
(06:06):
the only boy in this house? Full of love, family,
emotional intelligence, lessons and everything else in between. And that
television show, for those who don't know, Welcome to the culture.
The Cosby Show was a show that changed the culture
(06:27):
in so many different ways, and Malcolm Jamal Warner was
a part of a cultural shift. And we grew as
he grew personally and professionally. We saw who he was,
who he is, who he became in its entirety from
(06:47):
the moment we saw him on television, from that moment
of that how old he was at that time to.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
His last day.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
He gave us access. He gave us access, and that
show did not define him, however it was.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
It was a show he was on. He was a
part of.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
An organic experience that is etched in the minds and
hearts of so many different people cclude me, which is
why this episode is dedicated to him. And it's like
losing family because it's so connected. Like whenever you started
watching the Cosmi Show, wherever you've seen it, you saw him.
(07:29):
He saw who he was. When the Cosby Show was over,
you saw who he was becoming like. He was the
first guy to me he was. This is for me.
I don't know no facts. Maybe AI could tell me,
Maybe y'all could tell me. Put it in the comments.
Talk to you boy. You know, my belief is he's
the reason. He's the pebble in the pond that made
(07:49):
the ripple of Neo. So ah, this is my belief, man,
This is how much I value this man. I need
you all know that. It's my belief. He started because
the first person I ever noticed that was dressing like
dwel A was malcol Jamal Warner, meaning duel A. In
my mind, dwell A got his loop from mal Jamarin Warner.
The whole neo soul tried community into my In my opinion,
(08:14):
they got the swag from malcol Jamarin Water.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
In my humble o pincuse, he's the first person I saw.
He had the dreads.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
If you watch him on TV, he smelled like a
nice natural oil. He was full of oils. He was
doing poetry, spoken word. He was on the up and up.
He experienced a loss, you know, losing his tragically losing
his fiance.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You know, we was a part.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Of that and like him working through that grief, and like, man,
we were there, We were there.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
And it feels like, man, we lost one.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
We lost a legend because to me, he impacted the
culture himself.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
The show took it to a whole other level.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
So no matter what he was in, what he was doing,
he was always viewed at first as man that a theo.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Oh they a theo man. Then eventually he got.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
To a place where man, that's Michael to Mama Warner,
oh that's the theo. You know what I'm saying, Like
who he was, who he is, who we've gone right,
So being a part of that era, you know, in
the nineties. Growing up with that is like, I view
life differently because of it. Again, he the only boy
I identify. I couldn't identify with two parent household. They
make one of the six figures. You know, main household.
(09:28):
I know, single parent minimum wage. I don't know nothing
about that life brownstough shit, brown carpet, that's what we have.
It's brown. So I don't know about that. But it
gave me an idea, It gave me a vision, It
gave me an ability to dream.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
All of us.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
And there's so many people that went to college that's
part of the culture. So many people that went to
college because of this television yow, so many people that
saw themselves differently because of this television. Joe, make you
an example, and I'll talk about Pill Cosby and this
ain't about him. We got to talk about it. We
(10:06):
talking about three parallels. Okay, who you were, who you are?
People coming those three dim people were talking about three
even Cosby's that we see. We don't know the other
sides anyway. That ain't none of my damn business.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
This is.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
So one of the most memorable moments on that television
show Cosby Show. For those who still knew Catching On
Cliff Hucks. Cliff Huxtable character played by Bill Cosby was
Theo's dad. Lamon Warner character says dad and THEO wanted
and I'm gonna use THEO the character THEO wanted to
(10:40):
just get out and be grown so bad, and his
dad was like, all right, cool, you want to be grown,
let me show you some grown bills with some little
boy money.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
And man, it was one of the best for me.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
It was one of the best episodes on that show
for me because I didn't have that experience growing up
with my dad. And what experience they have had at
the time was his dad physically, visibly, mentally, like, emotionally,
spiritually showed him real life without him having to experience
(11:13):
it first in real time. So they use monopoly money
to do this apartment, you know, and he set it
up so perfectly, so brilliantly, like, man, how did you
think of that?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Set up?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
The rules and everything, and then the whole family, everybody's
in character and it's real. Nobody's breaking character. We're not
playing with you, man, cause these streets are not playing
with you. So his sister's mo like everybody man. And
by the end of the experience. He was broke, which
means you broke at home. Bro, you still good.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
We got you.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
But imagine if you did it your way, went out
here in these streets thinking you was wrong, you be
back at the crib. However, imagine how much you lose
from that versus losing from this. Come on, y'all, come on, man,
That show is That show is everything to me.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
And because that gave me the.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Vision at that age, however old I was, before I
ever thought about kids manage anything. That gave me the idea.
Oh my god, I can't wait to do that with
my kids. Guess what I got two boys, four and two.
I cannot wait.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I cannot wait.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
And I will always pay homage to the show, to
the characters, to the identity, to the idea. THEO is
part of that. He was the guy.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
He was me as a dad.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Now he was me. Then he was all of us,
because at one point in time in your life there's
a path that crossed. You know again, big bro down
the street. Mentor like he was cool, he was chilled,
he was he was who he was. There's no other
character like him, there's no other person like him. Was
(13:01):
my warner. He was.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
He didn't roll no crewe. He did his own thing
and he was cool with it.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
His relationship with his father like that came towards the
end and just being a dad himself.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
We saw him man, and to lose that.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Speaks volumes to who we are and where we are
right now and what advantages we have and what we
don't have. He didn't know, and he ended his life
based off of how he lived. His last one of
his last posts was, shoot, I'm not feeling the best
life been life and but it's my daughter's birthday.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
She gave me a flower. Let me pour into you today.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Although you know, the energy was just like man, you
know I'm here, I'm still here and I'm still giving.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And he gave Man.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
He gave his entire life from again, the from birth
to death. And for us we had access when the
first time he was on film, and we had access
for years after years because he did several things after that,
Malcolm and Eddie.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
You know, he's been guess and periods, He's done a lot.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Then he moved into podcast and like being on podcast again,
he gave us access and I'm thankful for that and
I have to celebrate this moment because right now visibly
in my mind because I wanted to record this, but
I wanted to record this with my human sweatshirt on
to pay homage. And I'm like, I want to do
this now. Why am I waiting to go get a sweatshirt?
(14:23):
Why do I have to be perfect? I don't know.
Now if you're hearing this audibly, I got a humans
I got a human sweatshirt on with the seal in
the middle. You know what I mean. This is my
senior year. No, actually, I'm a professor here. Excuse me.
I'm down playing me. So those audio you get it.
I'm in a human sweatshirt. Those watching on video imagine
I'm in one. Because yeah, I'm wearing a little dry
(14:50):
fit shirt because you know I'll walk and try to
take care of me. But if I could, this is
a this is a dry fit Helman workout shirt. Why
because I said so, there it is. I'm mocking it,
but nobody knows for sure unless you see. Even then
I can deny it. Think about your uncle at Thanksgiving. Oh,
(15:14):
open the door a little bit in that basement. Let's
get back to the show. So THEO you can walk here.
I want you.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I want you. I want to teach you about culture.
I challenge you. Ain't gonta do this.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
But if you were to walk in any room wearing
a particular shirt, you're going to get a particular response.
If you were to go in the room and to
say a particular name, you would get a particular response.
And what is that a garden guard trail? The garden
(15:46):
god trail. That shirt is historical. It needs to be
in the museum. If it's not, that shirt represents the culture.
And if you don't know, let me educate you. The
being a teenager. I was a teenager. We all were teenagers.
If you weren't, let me know. Call Anejo on the
(16:07):
show whatever stage you miss, I, come on here, let's
talk about it. I went from a kid to an adult.
Come on. But anyway, so trying to be like the
cool kid, yo, I want this this Gordon Contrail shirt.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
It's a it's a you know, expensive shirt.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Blah blah bla's ninety two dollars and this was in
the ninety ninety two dollars a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Now Gordon Contrail is probably three hundreds.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Gordon con Trail now three hunds easy, easy or maybe
up there with Burking.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I don't know, thirty nine undred teacher. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
But this shirt was everything, and he made it feel
like everything for us watching it. So he hyped up
the shirt the whole time. I wanted I want to
can't afford it, he asks us. Dad, Hey, man, I need.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
This going contrail.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I know you can afford you a doctor. And Dad
was like, whoa slow down, hold your host's boo. You
need a Gordon control job in order to get your
shirt because right now you can't afford it based off
of your income. And he was right again connecting dots.
He was right, and he can get.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
To your shit.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
You better figure it out, bro. That's discipline. That's boundaries,
you know what I'm saying. That's boundaries man. Again, just
being a TV dad. He was my dad. Part of it,
you know, because if you watch a man or a
woman and watch them do what they do and you
like it, you emulate it. If you don't like it,
(17:28):
you may emulate it too. Whatever it is. So that
show represented so much. So he ain't got the money.
He don't know how to get the money. Talk to
his sister, Finna, go to college. You know, Hey, you
don't need to get that shirt, Limb, let me make
it for you. You can do that.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, have the prize quart of the price.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, he got some hype about it, like, Yo, I'm
gonna pay you what the quarter of the price. A'ma
give you an extra because you got me. He believed
in his sister and it didn't matter. He wanted the
shirt so bad it did not matter. And sometimes we
want something so bad it don't matter. We cut corners
to get to it. Listen, this is for somebody, even
if it's for different versions of me. He tried to
(18:13):
cut corners and he got the results. It didn't matter.
Here's my money. Mostly I'm connected. I'm tied to this.
This has to be Give me the shirt because the
shirt represents who I want to be and to me,
THEO is Malcolm Jamar Warner is him? Who is him?
(18:33):
Gordon Goodtrail because you can't say that name without connecting
it to THEO. I need you to see three parallels. Okay,
you can do whatever you want to do with it,
but I'm just gonna give it to you. It's ripples
and breadcrumbs and everything. If you're paying attention, THEO made
that name what it is. And if there was a
person now that did exactly what some what creator did
(18:56):
to develop a Healman apparel that same person, different creator,
or maybe even me, I don't know if you connected it.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Let's wrap, let's make this thing. Let's make this thing happen.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
If you were to create an iconic brand like Guarding
Coatrell created a symbol, image and all that and put
it on shirts, it would sell. It would sell. How
do I know him In apparel is sold out more
often than not, even in twenty twenty five. Check it out.
I'll put a link in here so you can check
(19:26):
it out for yourself. See if yourself. I rock my
sweatshirt proudly because I'm the reason I went. Part of
the reason that I went to college was because I
recognized that I could. The Cosme show let me know
what I could do. So I'll take a piece of
this moment to talk about Pill Cosby, which I feel
(19:47):
like needs to be a different episode, but I'll just
give a teaser because I feel it so for me again,
three parallels who Bill Cosby was? We love, we admired,
we respect. That's because all that's all we knew. He
became a different version over time. Blah blah blah. Who
he became later was who what was in him? We
just had access. So I do not, you know, support
(20:11):
value or any of the allegations or the whatever he
did being convicted. I don't.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I don't take any of that likely. And you know
you got to You have.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
To pay for what you do, just true to believe
that you got to pay for it. An he paid,
an he's pain, and he may be paying more ways
than we know, but he has to pay. And I
need you to look at different sides of the coin
when it comes to us as human beings, because on
one side of the coin, this man impacted a culture,
he shifted a culture, and on the other side, he
(20:44):
shifted a culture that hurt a lot of people for
a long period of time. Just like the legacy he
left with, the Cosby showed that still impacts people from
now for a long period of time. You can have both.
We get to decide how we deal, how we manage
when people are people. That's another episode for another day. However,
(21:06):
the genius of this man, Bill Cosby, Cliffland Cliff Huxtable
gave life lessons in the nineties that's applicable to twenty
twenty five. And I'm going to start a journey because
of this experience, I feel moved to do it.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
To go through every.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Episode of The Cosby Show, no timeline, no deadline, but
go through everyone as the man I am now to
see things differently than I saw at that time. Because,
as you know, and if you don't, welcome to the club, movies,
television shows, that's happened. They don't change. They don't change.
(21:47):
We change, and that's why we see them differently. So
your life work challenge, a if you know you know challenge,
if you know you know your life work is to
be willing to step outside your comfort zone to discover
or rediscover who you actually supposed to be, not the character,
not that I did, not what somebody told you, but
(22:08):
who you actually supposed to be. Give yourself permission to
do just that. I would challenge you to do so.
In addition to that, what legacy are you leaving and
what value are you adding based on your creativity. Although
Bill Cosby made The Cosby Show, THEO made an idea
(22:31):
of what masculinity could look like his emotional intelligence on
the show, his physical prowess on the show, his naivete
his curiosity, who he was inside and out. Man was
a beautiful human being. And you can't play that type
of character without having that type of character. Come of Somebody,
(22:54):
get me off of this podcast, Oprah, Oprah, where are
you come here? Girl? Come here, let's talk. This is
too good for me again doing the shit for me, y'all.
I'm doing this for me, all different versions this therapeutic
for me. I ain't even know this was another aspect
of my therapy, but I know now for sure. So
if anybody got contact, noybody got access to Oprah, tell
(23:16):
her get at me asap. I want to sit at
the table table talk whatever talk you want to have.
When you to talk. I wanted to sit outout there
in that backyard with that wood table and in that
vineyard with people just bringing tea and water and liqu
up to our table. Gail is mining her damn business
stead man. We're finna go play pickle ball when I
(23:38):
get done with this podcast. And I ain't even worried
about to check, Oprah. You just cut it.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I ain't worried about it. You already cut the check.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Is anything I touched now got Oprah name on it,
and anything there that got got opraenh name.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
On it, you gonna buy it.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
There's that. So the yo, Malcolm Tabari wanna change the
culture for me as a man, as a black man
in these United States because they were talking about things
during that time that we're still talking about now or
we didn't talk about at the time. And it was
the first of his kid, good friend of mine, Leo Flowers,
(24:15):
who will be on show. We had a moment where
we talked about we processed this because we boys, you know,
we grew up around the same era era. He was
in Chicago at the time, I was in Dayton at
the time, but we grew up with it and we
were able to process and grieve together, like, man, do
you remember And we reflected like like we really literally
(24:36):
knew each other down the street and still all down
the street. That's how impactful he was to us and
the culture. And I'm thankful to have a platform to
give him his Flowers. I feel as though, you know,
if I ever would have met on my vision that
I have, it's just it was family. It was familiar
because he understood his assignment, he understood who he was.
(24:59):
He understood what was going on.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
If it did.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Even if he didn't know what was going on, he
understood because it was just him. Then the next to
him was Bill and his actual father. So if you
think about these things, you know, and he became a father,
if you think about all these things, like, we're impacted
by so many different things. Even this fictional character that
(25:23):
impacted all of our lives was played by a human
being doing human things, and we got a chance to
see who he was, who he became, and who he
was becoming. If this experience impacted you in any way,
do something about it. This has been another episode of
three Pelos podcast where we rediscovered who we were, we embrace
(25:44):
who we are, and we make room for who we're
trying to become. If this show has impacted you in
any way, shape warm and fashion, share it, give it away.
Do you want to pay homage to Malcolm Jamar and Warner,
give it away? Share it like chair, comment, dive in.
If that show or THEO himself or Michael Jo Warner
impacted you, inspired you in any way, hopping the comments,
(26:08):
shoot a message like really, let's talk about it, man,
Let's let's give him his flowers. So people know how
you impact somebody, even if you never met him. Man
I love us, Peace,
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