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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Up, What up? What up? Good morning, good evening, good afternoon,
wherever you are in the world. Forty something gamers is
me and my homeboy Charon, and we discussed our favorite
video games and life being you know, forty something, middle
age and whatnot. Sharon, how you doing, man?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
My dude?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Hell? What's going on with you?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Nothing? Man? You know everything, everything is all good, all
good is in the hoodie. But uh, today we're gonna
talk about a very unique, uh console and situation. I
like to first, I like to start off and say that,
for the most part, man, Nintendo has always been an
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innovative Nintendo has always I think they were cutting edge
with all their accessories, and then everything follows suit like
discounting the power glove, which they yeah, so discarding that. Yeah,
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so they you know, they had the power pad, they
had any disadvantage. And then I will say, man and
me and Sharon, we had a conversation about this a
while ago. Uh, Nintendo has always been that family friendly
console or family friendly. They had family friendly products. But
I will say that the Wei was a game changer,
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and one thing that was definitely interesting about the Wei,
or even with Nintendo's consoles in general, they may not
be the most powerful or most cutting edge, but they
are the most family friendly and they have like good playership,
you know, replayability. So with that being said, today we're
discussing that we fits. That we Fit in uh you know,
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applies for the we Fit because it got people in shape,
you know, back in the day. But one more thing
that I want to say, man, is when the Week
came out, I loved the videos of how people were
just breaking the televisions with the we controller man shout out.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
And those straps, those straps were breaking left and right.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah. So Sharon, Man, what did you think about the
we Fit? Man? What's your experience with the we Fit?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I thought that the we Fit was actually pretty cool,
you know. I actually, you know, enjoyed the bowling in
the Week yeah we Fit.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, And.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I think that was probably the one of that maybe
the boat in the boxing. I think that was the
one I had done the most, was bowling and boxing.
I know there was a baseball, tennis and also a golfing,
but I enjoyed the simplicity of it, you know. I
thought it was it was a pretty solid thing, you know,
and you know, I know that most of the like
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you said, the others like Nintendo's built on more family
based and more simplicitly with other games are And I
guess the Xbox and PlayStation is built on power and
you know, but I don't think it takes power to
have fun. You know, it's just Nintendo of some of
the most basic games, you know, like that we Fit
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or we Sports.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And you know what they mean, it work, you know,
they did not.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And I will say one thing was like with the Wii,
so I want to say the Dreamcast before the we
the Dreamcast was my last console that I got helped.
And then what ended up happening was once my daughter
was born, I went ahead and actually she was with
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her uncle when she was younger, and I saw them
playing the Nintendo Wii, and I saw that she was
having a good time. I forget what they were playing.
So then what I went ahead and did was like,
you know what, I'll go ahead and buy a Wii.
And then once the we Fit came out, I bought
one from my mom. And that was another thing too, man.
You could buy one for your your parents, your grandmother.
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And then I buy a we Fit. Actually I had
a roommate and he had the Wi Fit Plus and
he was playing the one game where you're and it's funny,
it's funny watching people play like watching people play like
virtual reality. So he was playing the one game where
you're like the the penguin, right, and you gotta swing
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you uh, you gotta fly and you kind of kind
of balance and land on things. I think that's when
of the we Fit plus games and I was like, yo,
this is crazy and I like it, you know what
I mean, Like I want to play it. And it
also fit into like the the exercise and craze. So
at the time I was living in I was living
in Maryland, so you know it gets cold, it gets snow,
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and that's when you, hey man, you can't go outside.
You don't want to go to gym. You could do
your we fit us. And then also that's what got
me into yoga because you could do yoga as well.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
But yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
That's my experience. And then I want to throw out
a fact too. So as of March twenty and twenty two,
the we Fit was the third best selling console game
not to be packaged with a console, so it sold
as of the two it might be a little bit
more now twenty two point six million copies.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Wow. And then the West Lot.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
The We Fit Plus best selling game on the Wii,
so seventh best selling game on the Wii, and that
Bad Boys Seld twenty one point one three million. So
both sir, both versions have sold forty three point eight million,
making the game one of the best selling video games
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of all time. So I mean that that's that's what
they do at Nintendo.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Man, right, So it wasn't Veld.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
No, it's not Man, that's wow.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
You know. So do we Fit that's the one with
the board, like the balance.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Board, right, yeah, and then the we Fit Plus you
had the balance board, so you had the you had
the we Fit, but then you also had the we
Fit Plus. It just had more Like the We Fit
had some workout games on it, but then the We
Fit Plus it had six new strength training and yoga activities,
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so it had more.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Okay, Okay, see I didn't I didn't have that one.
I was, uh yeah, but I know what I know
what you're talking about. Now, Yeah, I had the one
that packed in with the Nintendo Okay, it was just
called it was just called we Sports. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
When we can talk about all the sports too, because
this is all athletic. So sports had the It had
the boxing, the bowling, and I think the baseball.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Right yeah, and also had tennis and golf.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Golf, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Okay, yeah, that boxing.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
That boxing game was wild. You know.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
It reminded me of the first time. I never played
Mike Tyson's punch Out. Oh yeah, in a sense, yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I used to.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I used to play the boxing. And also the bowling
was like really fun.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
You know. I wasn't that great at golfing. You know,
I did it a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I would hit a lot of home runs with the baseball,
and like you know, tennis is like a really good
like tennis was like a really good co op. But
you know you had to be careful, like staying too
close to your opponent because I can say what the
act somebody decided to hear it.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah yeah, I say to the listeners, man, if you
you got a YouTube, you have the YouTube, the video
the videos of people that had the WI. A lot
of TVs got broken during that time, like the videos
right off the chain. And then like I said, people
getting knocked out.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Look. Funny story. I remember I was having a show
in here.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I was doing like a small art show, and I
had one one of these friends that I worked with,
you know, he had come over to the house and
he was playing.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I guess it was his first time ember playing.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
He was playing a baseball game and my grandma was
sitting like in front of him, and I swear every
time he swung, I thought he was gonna hit in
the back of the head. Glas he was sure, but
like man, he was like he was slugging him home
as if he was outside. I was like, oh, man,
this guy's gonna let the state fly. It's gonna hit
somebody or go to a window or go to the TV.
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But yes, we almost had we accident that day in
the house.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Go wow, So check this out. I wanted. I wanted to.
I wanted to look at this man so and thank
you for artificial intelligence. So I looked up WE injuries
and its WE games, particularly those involving simulated sports, can
lead the injuries such as muscle strains, sprains, and overused injuries,
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often after extremity's neck wrists and sometimes referred to as
it's called we itis. Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
We that is crazy yep.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
So oh go ahead, I said, I wonder if people
you know, because I know we have the Nintendo Switch
now when there's strength training games and stuff on that now,
But I wonder if people still ride with the week man.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You know what, I'm not gonna lie to you. Actually,
like I said in the winter time, I actually bust
out the wee. The one cool thing about the board.
So the we sports that you had, did they have
any running or like jogging? No, because I know as
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far as do we fit, they did have a jogging one, right,
and the jogging one you just had the control or
and it's just like, yeah, you you would it would
basically your pace off of jogging. So it kind of
reminded me of like you remember, okay, we're gonna go
back as we talk accessories, the wei ward the fit
board reminds me of what do you think man before
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the we board, whether they have from the power pad.
So yeah, so with the jogging, uh, you could like
just all you gotta do is move your your and
this is this is a hack, this is a heck. Yeah,
people that are lazy, all you gotta do is just
move the what was it is it called the nunchuck. Yeah,
just moved the nunchuck up and down real fast the
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way man.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Because there's a nunchuck and it's also the nunchuck. The
nunchuck cooks up into that remote.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, so I stand corrected. It's the WE remote. So
it's just based off the movement of your remote. It's
your pace as your jogging. But if you go real fast,
it's kind of like the power pad. Remember when what
was the Olympic game that they had on the power
pad and all you got to do, So those that
weren't born, that wasn't born around or living around the
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time of the nineteen hundred and eighties, look up the
power pad and the cheat was. All you had to
do is just hit the pads A and B to
GOE to run row fast. Just do it with your
hands rather than running and wearing yourself out.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Power pad hack.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I used to You know, our house was a ball
for the ground, so if we played with that thing,
it would shake the house and we were giving a
lot of trouble. So a lot of times we actually
played that. That's exactly how we had to play it,
you know, you had to play it with your hands,
and you also went faster, you know, because nobody I
mean I remember that track and Field game or some whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
It came with.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was That was the only game
I think that. I mean, it was like maybe a
dance a erobics game or something that cause you know,
it had the powerped had two sides to it. One
side was like the leout was like they just the
circles went across. On the other side, they were like
in like a certain arrangement and like you know, you
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could turn it over and it's like it was a
different game that you played with it.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
But like I said, I never got to play that game.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Wow, okay I did. I don't remember that, but yeah,
you're right, I forgot about that. I forgot about.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
That, right, Oh yeah I remember that.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
But yeah, it didn't just like just like the rob Robot, think,
it didn't really have a lot Yes, I never had
a robe, but it didn't it didn't really have a
lot of games that that you could play with it,
like maybe one game, like one or two like.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Gyro might I think, I remember.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I think the Nintendo the Zappa had more games because
they you know, they had Hogan's Alley and then they
had Duck Hunt and like maybe wild Gunman.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I think the Zappa got more it had gotten more crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
But at the same time, all that stuff was a
precursor to where we are now, because.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
The power of the power glove is a precursor to
the we remote, right, like we said, the power pad
was a precursor. And then I guess, like you said, man,
with technology, as you're moving along, you have to you
have to try stuff, right because remember right, I mean,
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the Virtual Boy is a precursor to like virtual reality games.
Right when Virtual Boy came out, it was like, yo,
that that that red stuff. I wasn't really feeling you
know what I.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Mean, No, no, And it's just like the game Boy.
And also to say a game gear and the links,
that's all a precursor to the ps like the PlayStation
portable and now can Nintendo Switch. I think that's like
a really good idea that it docks, but at the
same time you can take it with you. Yeah, you know, so,
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I mean that's like one of the best ideas I
think they've actually come up with with, you know. And
also I know that they have the version that it
doesn't die. It's just basically a handheld. I'm not a
big I'm not big on hand heels. I prefer to
play the game on the big screen. So at the
same time, I also like the fact that if I
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chose to, I could actually take the Nintendo Switch me
on the goat.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah. So actually I was actually on a flight and
I saw a guy playing the the handheld portion of
uh of that, and I was like, Wow, I'm impressed. Man,
I've seen the graphics. So I was like, man, that's
not a bad idea, because I mean, you have the
Nintendo Switch, you know. I mean, if you're a heavy traveler,
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there you go right there. So I mean Nintendo does
this thing. And I think I asked this question before.
So you were saying your favorite off of the WE
sports is the h the bowling.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, between between the bowling and the box, and I want.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
To say, okay, and then and the baseball was that?
So the baseball for the WE Fit or the WE
sports Man, I found that you kind of had to
find that sweet spot.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Right, Yeah, I mean it was tricky. I think the
only thing you could really do was just hit the ball.
I don't think you could I don't think you could
ever play outfield. You know, it was just basically oh no,
I'm sorry. Now you could also pitch the ball too. Yeah, yeah, so,
like I haven't played it in a couple of years,
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but I do remember you could just only hit the ball,
you know, you couldn't control like the runners or anything,
and you could also pitch. But I mean it was,
it was. It was early on, so I mean it
was still like a really neat idea. And of course
with the bowl, and I like the fact that you
could actually like curve that ball if you swing like
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the remoter certain way.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
You know. It was it was very fine too, sort
of and for its time.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, no, I mean it was good. Man had a
good It had a good run for a long time.
And it was because of that, that family friendly factor
and you had things like that. We fit in we
sports because I mean, how many times if, like you said,
you had a gathering and everybody could be involved, you know,
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and you could even track track your progress. Since we
were talking about we oitis, what what which game gave
you the weitis? And what was the longest time that
you like played the we like longest session that you
had with the we sports.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I think if any game would have given would have
given me we itis, it probably would have been the
boxing game because it was the most physical. Yeah, but
I've never had an accident, you like as far as
like with the controller.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
But yeah, that was that was been my weis.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah, because I've never yeah, I've never even oh go ahead, wait.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
A minute, well no, this, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
This that's that's DJ Hero was a total different monst
all together. Us will will talk go about that but
another time, because there's a track on that game that
really gives you on the workout.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Gotcha, gotcha, and I mean the good thing. Yeah, and
I played, I think, yeah, the box and I didn't
partake into too much the bowling. I did, and I
did get little wei itis, but my main jam was
the the baseball one. Yeah, and then I would always
strap up. But then again I saw the videos of
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people jacking their TV's up, so.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Yeah, I always yeah, back then, you couldn't go to
Walmart and get a TV for eighty dollars.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Na.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Man, I've seen in those videos too, Like I said, people,
you gotta YouTube the videos because people get very very angry.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
So so we talked about that I wanted to ask, man,
have you played any game in particular? The only drawback
that I had when we speaking of we itis was
like the Star Wars as a Star Wars game. I
can't remember off, but you would have to swing the
Wii and you'd have to use the we controller and
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I just had to tap out, man, because I'm like, man,
this is I want to play more, but I'm hurting
right now. I am hurting.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I think I know what you're talking about. I never
got that one, however.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
For that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I played that on Xbox because I didn't feel like
Star Wars was really a Nintendo Switch game.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Well, I lied.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I never played on that, but I did play the
Legend of Zelda Skywart Sward and you had to do
a lot of swinging and fighting in that one, and
that one was I thought, for the time, it was
really good. A lot of people, you know, they were
kind of harsh critics about it, but I mean it
was innovative, and they had since released it again on
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the Nintendo Switch.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I don't keep going back to the Switch, but I
believe that you can choose. I don't know. I haven't
played it on switch.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
But I think that you can choose to either play
it like in the south of the Wei or you know,
you can just play it normal, like just like just
holding the control.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah, I think, mmm, yes.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
So I know they had a I'm looking at this
right now, there was a WEE Sports. In my mind,
there was like a we Sports Island. Oh there it is,
yeah sports island, man, and it looks like the island
from so you jog around the island when you're playing
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the Wei Fit. There's a dragging session. And I've never
played this, Like, I want to play this game, and
I always thought about it in my mind something that
I wanted to get, but I didn't get it. And
I know it expands on everything. So they have another
one called uh yeah, they got like fencing, you got
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a whole bunch on it. But you're on this island,
so uh I want to ask, Yeah, we sports resort
too as well. Okay, so we Sports Resort. That's what
I'm thinking of. So it's an expansion of it. Anybody
that's played it that's listening, please man, let us know,
like what you think of the game, is it worth
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it and what's your thoughts process on it? Because you're
not fencing.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Oh wait a minute, is that the same one that
they pulled it to the to the switch?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, because I have I have that.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, okay, okay, have you have you played it.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
A little bit? I didn't play it a lot, Keenan.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I've may have played that with Keenan a bit because
we also have another one. It's called Reenfit where you
do a lot of Yeah, so I do have week Sports,
but I have it on the have it on Nintendo Switch.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Like I said, I do remember.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I do remember fencing or something like that and somebody
falling into the water, like if they fell off of
something like that.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
But yeah I have to pull it up on some
of the game playing. Put it on the put it
on a channel.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah. Nah. It looks cool.
And I always want, you know, when you want to
buy something that you forget, Yeah, I forget, like I
always want to kick myself in the butt because I
should always got Skies of Arcadia for the Dreamcast. But
now that bad boy is just man astronomical, right. Shout
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out to Bill Tendo forgetting me though. That's zero for
the game Cube. I had to come out of the
a little bit. But to that when I say that
the WEE, I got the Week because my daughter like
playing it. And then as she got older, man, you know,
once she become a teenager, and then it's more about
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the social your social network, having a phone and whatnot.
We played the Wi less and less, right, But I think,
as we said before, and an example and there's this
conversation validates that the Wei is generally family friendly and
that's Nintendo's niche and that's what's made them so successful.
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So with you having this basically Okay, now this is
a this is even better question because we both come
from the nineteen hundred and ninety or nineteen hundreds, not
you know game eighties. Yeah, game in the eighties and
the nineties. How do you feel, man, as far as
the we sports and we fit experience versus the regular
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video game experience? What would you prefer you do you
prefer the emotion the immersive or or do you prefer
just like hey, regular controller on playing? But would you
like it to be like playing and being both physical?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I'm not I can see with that.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I'm not biased because they have some people that prefer
an Xbox controller over a PlayStation control, so they're only
you know, so I'm not biased to that.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I'm I'm gaming to try it all, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Just like when the Sega Genesis came out, I was
really psyched by that controller because it was so like
you had like around it kind of look and I
was used to hold on a square controller with the Nintendo. Yeah,
and then all of a sudden, we jumped the PlayStation
and we had the the awkward shaped kind of triangle
looking controller or whatever it had, like the buttons that
you know, it's still the layout of the buttons that
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were really cool. But I'm actually pretty cool with playing
a game like manually, like with a normal controller, but
also like the fact the innovation of being able to
swing the control around like free in the air and
you know, controlling the character Avato on the screen.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
So I like that.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Maybe I'm a little bit lazy because I like, what
is it, Epic Mickey, right, Epic Mickey. The WE is
different because it has the WE controller you gotta use,
but then when you play it on the Xbox M
you don't have to do all that. And like I said,
the force something least after while I gets hired.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
A right, But that's you don't. You don't. You don't.
That's why I put you in shape, because you know
you have to learn to breathe.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Ye. But then I will say that the we controller
it makes Mario Galaxy worthwhile. It adds to the experience,
so it goes hand in hand. But then after a while, man,
because you know, you know how we are, man, we
come from that generation. Nah, you know what, I'm not
gonna say that because these games are more immersive. So
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I know people that play immersive RPGs that will literally
lock themselves up for days. Yeah, so I was gonna say, oh,
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Then you think that Super Mario Galaxy is a challenge.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
To play with that we controller, you should play Nights
and Dreams and play it where you actually have to
balance around, you know, because there's two ways you can
play that. You can play it like where you just
kind of where you're just kind of balancing the control
and you're controlling Nights, or you could play it like
with the nunch up, which is the way I played it.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Because it was easier.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
But yeah, so I have I do have nice in
to Dreams for the Dreamcast and for the Nintendo Wii.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
You got for Dreamcast.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
No, not the dream sorry, Sega Saturn.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Oh okay, yeah, yeah, so I got it.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I initially got it for the Sega Saturn and then
I did have the one for the Wii and yeah, yeah,
I played the regular way. Man.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I have.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I have nights and dreams about the Sega version for
my Xbox Street sixty and I also have the Wii version.
As you know, they only made the game on came
out twice. So Nintendo, if you're listening, we do it
for another nights in the Dreams game. And you know
you could drop another zero, you know if there yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Zero, yeah, of zero please, yeah, they'll do for another
You got to take a cue from Sega manase. Sega's
bringing back what they bring it back to future age,
they're bringing back will.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Be I'm getting that Shanobi Ninja Guiden.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
It's coming back Ninja Guiden. So yeah, sos and gentlemen.
We talked about the we Fit and the we Sports,
and then talked a little bit upon the Nintendo accessories
and then just basically Nintendo being that family friendly, fun
console and I think that speaks to its longevity. So
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let us know what you think. Do you have a
we fit. Do you have we sports? Do you still
play it? What were your thoughts? Highlights? Have you broken
the television? Have you heard somebody? You know what I'm saying?
Where you did you get? We itis? So and as always, man,
thank you guys from tuning in and Sharon, Man you
(27:08):
got any thoughts in the last minute. Words of wisdom
for people?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, get yeah, take your righteams, get plenty of exercise,
and don't break your TV.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Planing the week, don't break your TV. And also man,
check out a hey Sharon telling them where they can
find your artwork.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Man, yes, ma'am, you can find me your Facebook Sharon Art.
And I'm gonna be coming up with some newer stuff
pretty soon. And yeah, look me up on Charona on Facebook.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
There you go, ladies and gentlemen. Once again, it's your man,
Marquisvis and Sharon and we are forty something gamers. Thank
you so much for tuning in. Good night, God blessed,
good evening, good morning, whatever time you're streaming us, and
we'll see you next time.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Plays crime please, crime plays, Crime plays, Crime plays, crime plays, crime.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Play name
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Play play cla