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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Welcome to forty five Forward with host, journalist and speaker
Ron row Out. Ron's mission is to make your second
half of life even better than your first. Most of
us are just approaching our half life when we reach
the mid forties, with many productive years ahead. Ron is
here to help prepare us for this kind of longevity
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by providing vital strategies to shift the traditional waiting for
retirement model to a continuous, evolving journey of compelling life chapters.
So now please welcome the host of forty five Forward,
Ron row Out.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Welcome everyone to forty five Forward on Bold Brave TV.
I'm your host, Ron Rowell Ontario's show. We're going to
talk about something that's of importance to a lot of us,
which is how do we age in place safely, successfully,
and comfortably for as long as possible now. To do so,
many of us hire what are known as aging and
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place specialists who help us make home modifications and alterations
to make sure that we're safe and secure, mostly to
prevent us from the possible deadly implications of a fall.
But there are few specialists who are really like gunaut
A Glass, who is the founder of Agentists Living, and
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she has a very holistic approach to aging and place,
which not only includes home modifications, but a lot of
other services like customized move management, home organization, decluttering, and
how to use interior design in a way that really
reflects your Famili's personal preferences and desires. She works with seniors,
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of course, but she works with families of all ages,
helping them transition at every stage in life. So now, folks,
let's meet our guests or not a glass and learn
more about her age friendly approach to aging in place.
So we're not a welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Thank you, Ron. It's a pleasure to be here and
speak with you.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, pleasure to have you. This is something that I've
been looking at for quite some time. We've started making
some changes in my home and you know, and something
that I mentioned in my Caregiving Navigator guide about aging
in place. So we're going to get into all the
things that you do with your company, which I think
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is a really comprehensive approach. But I want to start
a little bit much about you. You know, you have
a very interesting background. I understand you came to this
country from Lithuania at age fourteen, So tell us a
little bit about your backstory and then we'll get right
into your company.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yes, thank you. So, as you said, I came to
this country at fourteen, I came and I went to
high school, so I feel, you know, I've been here
for a while. Definitely very American with a European soul.
I always say that, but that being brought up, you know,
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my younger years in Europe that really instilled respect for
the elderly because back where I came from, the elderly
were held at a very high esteem and I carry
that throughout my life and my respect for them as
really infiltrated every aspect of what I do professionally.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, that's that's that's a great intro. I mean, I
think that that is something that you know, people talk
about in this country, that you know that there is
persistent issue of ageism in this country, and it goes
back both ways actually, you know, for older people and
toward younger people too, so it can go in any direction.
(04:27):
But I think definitely, you know that people do talk
about that is an issue more so with our youth
oriented culture, which of course, as you know, flies in
the face of demographic reality, right, which is that we
are in an aging society, you know, and you know,
so so you did hopefully so yeah, yeah, and so
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you but you also had a diverse academic background in training.
So you know, one of the things I found interesting
was that that you were originally working a lot in
physical therapy.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yes. So in nineteen ninety six, I graduated from NYU
with a degree in physical therapy, which I continued back
then physical therapy. All that required was a bachelor's degree,
and I went from my master's degree for my graduate
degree to LAU at a Brooklyn campus, and my specialty
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was neurological rehab and this is what I truly loved
to do. I've always loved neurological rehabilitation, and this is
where my niche was as a physical therapist, and I
did that for many years. I also worked with kids.
I worked at very various fields of physical therapy. I
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did a cute, I did rehab. I did TBI, which
is traumatic brain injury, which would include stroke injuries, all
neurological injuries, and I didn't I worked in nursing homes, hospitals,
many different settings. But I always loved, as I said,
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working with the elderly, and I've been doing that since then,
I don't really do physical diarcty that much anymore, although
I do still have some private clients that I work
with I have worked with for years, but I continue
bringing my knowledge and my experience and expertise into ageless
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living services that we provide. Notion.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, so when you say neurological rehab, so is that
basically you're working with their physical capability but as a
result of some sort of neurological damage or accident or
some event. Is that right?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Absolutely so. Most most of the impairments were due to
either a stroke or Arkinson's disease or traumatic brain injury
or anything that would really impede their mobility and due
to neurological you know, either something that happened as a
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result of an accident or it could have been you know,
something that progressed any neurological damage to their uh, their
system and usually professes in mobility limitations. Yeah, and those
who are my favorite clients, and you.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Know, yeah, yeah, you know, it's important that people like
you're working in this field. You know, it's something that
you know, I think you sort of take it for
granted im even you know that you're you know, in
the the able bodied community. You know, we say, well,
there's able body and then there's those with disabilities, and
that's the line is is much more fluid than that,
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and it's not quite you know, black and white one
or the other. And you know, I remember, you know,
not nearly.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Well.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
There are a couple of situations. I remember one where,
you know, I was I was commuting to New York
City and taking a train and I was running to
the train and I stepped halfway off a curb and
turned my ankle badly, and I managed to hobble to
the train and get on and you know, go to work.
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But then the next week or so, Boy was that hard,
you know, and just the realization that how much we
don't acknowledge, you know, the fine line between disabled and abled,
you know, and help few accommodation.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Healthy ankles and all the other joints and everything about
our bodies for granted, until we don't until something happened,
and it's front face, and you know, we're facing the
limitations because.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Of it, right right, you know. And And the of
the other incident was when I was a few years
ago working extensively, I think it was it was it
was the beginning of the pandemic. Anyway, I was doing
a lot of you know, writing work and was sitting
a lot and uh and one morning after I finished
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this project, I woke up and I was like in
excruciating pain all over the place from a lack of
physical exercise and from being you know, uh, sort of
repetitive motion industry, but an interesting way from you know,
keeping my muscles in one position all the time. And
so the and what what what was the remedy? You know,
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there were lots of theories about what happened, but the issue,
but the the solution was physical therapy. That's what what
Whatever it was they were, you know, all sorts of
theories that doctors saying maybe room toward right it is,
blah blah blah. But it was physical therapy that really
helped get me through it.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
So yeah, I'm great believer in physical therapy. Five these reasons, yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So so then you started your career in physical therapy.
But then you then, I think in twenty twenty one,
founded Ages Living. So what was that like? You know,
so now you become you know, I guess it was
sort of an entrepreneur before that, but making the leap
like this, I think really sort of on the not
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quite end of the pandemic was right in right in
the middle, right.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
So my journey kind of started at the beginning of
the pandemic because just like everybody in my life was
significantly affected by it. We couldn't work, and I started.
I've always wanted to start my own business, and this
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was an opportunity that I was basically kind of like
fell into my lap. I knew I had to start
to do something. There were a lot of changes, and
I started Ageless Living, and Ageless Living started as safety
Modifications company because safety modifications is something that I did
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as a physical therapist that would come to somebody's home
and I would assess their living space and make recommendations.
So I kind of felt like, this is exactly what
I need to be doing with my company. So my
company started in I believe it really started in twenty twenty,
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but really took off and was fully created in twenty
twenty one, and then over the years it developed into
other things because I as I was dealing with clients,
clients would ask me, oh, can you do this and
can you do that? So it kind of like moved
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into and expanded and we expanded the services. Home safety
modification goes hand in hand and home with home organization. Also,
I need freak full disclosure. So that really because if
somebody is living at home and wants to age in place,
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and as we age, we kind of tend to gather
a lot of things, and you know how, and we
don't get rid of as many that as many things
as we kind of bring into the house. So home
organization is becomes a real issue, and especially as we
age in mobility issues become more prominent. We need to
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deal with things that are clutter and you know, furniture
being placed in certain ways. So that kind of naturally
just evolved into home safety modifications, whole organization decluttering part
of it. Then I've always done interior design for family
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and friends. I've always been very creative as a child
that went to art school. It was always a part
of my life. And during the pandemic, I was reading
an article and I came up on this article that
kind of mentioned this lady who decided to get a
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degree in interior design, and I started looking into it
because that was something that was very interesting to me.
I started looking into it was New York, New York
Institute of Art and Design, and during pandemic, I went
back to school and I got my degree in that
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so it further it further expanded my my knowledge, my
my It opened my eyes to a lot of other things,
and I started implementing interior design together with safety modifications
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and home organization, and I saw how effective it is
for people who would like to age in place safely.
But I think aesthetic is very important in our homes.
So it's very important to have the function and the
safety part of it, but also the aesthetic aspect of
a whole. Because our home is our haven, a safety
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where we come in and we like to unwind and
have you know, like be fulfilled in our homes. And
by bringing safety, function and aesthetic beauty into it, it
really makes a huge difference. That's how that came about.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that you know, a lot
of our careers are are more they're intentional, but they're
accidental and then we sort of figure.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Out and that's the beauty of it, I.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Think, yeah, yeah, yeah, So yeah, what I'd like to
do is take a deeper divant each of these services
that you provide well.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
And I'm sorry to interpret, but also the concierge move management,
really it kind of incorporates all of them, so I
know you want to like, I just wanted to mention
that was like another service that we provide, and it
really incorporates every single expertise, you know, every everything that
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we do, every service. It really blends it in right right.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Okay, So we'll do another quick overview after the break.
But we are going to take a quick break now,
but don't go anywhere, folks. We'll be talking much more
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Speaker 2 (18:03):
Welcome back, folks. This is Ron Rebellion, the host of
forty five Forward on bowld Brave TV. We're talking today
with Peranata Glass, who is the founder of Age us Living.
Before we get back to or Not, I just wanted
to mention to my audience that if you know friends
and family or acquaintances who are missing the live show today,
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playlist on Bowl Brave TV YouTube channel. Also, they can
find the replays on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and a lot
of streaming platforms, So not to worry. You can see
it many ways. So before the break, we were talking
to her not about her company and the kind of
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services she provides. It's really a suite of services that
go together to help people aging place in lots of capacities.
So I wanted to take a deeper dive in some
of her services and starting off with some of her
I guess her. Here is move Management, which ties in
a lot of our services, So let's start with that
right now.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yes, So, as we spoke before the break, my business
kind of grew from you know, from its first day
and it kind of evolved with each day based on
the needs that my clients expressed. So Move Managing and
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I always say that it's a concierge Move Managing because
we really take such good care or our clients. I
think what really sets me apart is the fact that
I really make every every service that we provide is
very individualized. So I always listen to the clients. I
kind of get in tune with their personalities and I
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think it probably stems from my being a physical therapist
and working with seniors so many years. I listen to
what their concerns are because every everybody has different concerns.
Everybody has their stres and weaknesses, and I try to
tap into those when we provide the service. So our
concierge moving services. If somebody has lived in their home
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for you know, forty fifty sixty years enough, most as
most of my clients have, they accumulate a lot of stuff,
a lot of the stuff. It really has a lot
of sentimental value to the client, and it's very important
to make sure that we don't overlook that and we
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we really you know, respect their memories. So you have
to kind of they realize they have to downsize, but
that cup that has a you know, a break in
it is so important to them and they don't want
to break they don't want to get rid of it
because it was their mother's, you know, their their mothers
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when she was little, and they're keeping it. So it's
very important to approach the job with with respect and
and really caring and love and understanding. So we really
hold hold their hand if they need it, because like
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some of them are very independent, and some of them
are you know, but moving is a very difficult process
and it's it's a very stressful process. So what my
job is, I can't really take fully stress away. But
what my job is, my mission is to take to
make it as stress less as possible. So whatever whatever
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it requires, we help them go through their belongings and
decide what they need to keep and what they need
to donate and what to get rid of. We help
them pack everything up and move to the new whether
they're going into an independent living, assisted living, or a
smaller home. I help them kind of decide what furniture,
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and this is where my interior design comes in. I
help them with placement of the furniture. I have helped
them if needs to be ordered, you know, so it's
functional and safe and once again esthetically pleasing. We help
them set up their new home, we clear their whole
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for sale. So I work with a lot of professionals
and I bring in a lot of resources as needed.
But the process is I make it as smooth as possible.
And you know, most of my clients are like very
happy with the process because they really like we really
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try to take the stress away from a very stressful process.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I was talking to someone recently who was involved in
a similar field, and he mentioned that of the three
biggest stresses in life, one is the top one is death,
dealing with death, the second is dealing with divorce, and
the third is moving. Yeah. I mean, it's just it's
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disrupting your world, and it's disrupting you know, and you
know you have to do it, but boy is it.
You know, take a toll and you know, you're you're
letting go, you're moving forward. But it's I mean, I
think that people does underestimate the emotional toll that this
kind of change takes on you.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Right, It is an amazingly, amazingly stressful situation. It could
be my when I was moving. My son said to me, said, Mom,
but you do it all the time with other people,
but it's very different when you do it for yourself
because the emotions are overwhelming. And we're also dealing with
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elderly people who have lived in their homes forty fifty
sixty years and they raise their families, their kids were
born in those homes. Everything that they remember themselves as
adults are associated with that home. So also the loss
of independence, at least that's how they feel, because they
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were independent and autonomous in this home and now they
have to give it up. And a lot of the
times it's because of loss of one of you know,
a partner. So they're dealing with so many emotions and
that's why it's so important to make it as respectful
and as caring as possible.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, and I think that their emotional attachments, you know,
as you were talking before, I was thinking, well, about
the you know, the personal attachment of things that go
that I have now that go back to my childhood
that I took from my mother's home when we absolutely
she passed away, and I just focused just you know,
oddly was I was thinking about. I have this glass
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call which I just called the grape glass. I was like,
the grape glass. It was this purple trends loosened, very
reflective glass that you know, for whatever reason, I was
transfixed on as a kid, you know. And you know,
so figuring out what things, you know, you need to
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hang on to and what the you know, what you
need to make choices about stuff, and you know.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
It's also important to talk about it, to talk about
the value of those things, the sentimental value, because I
think a lot of us, like once we kind of
express it, especially to their family, they have to express
it to their kids. The kids have to really listen
to them why it's important. We also suggest frequently to
take pictures of the items, not necessarily like keep them,
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just because it's about the memory of the of the item.
It's the association that you make, not necessarily the item
itself or you know, like most of them will not
drink from that cup, it's just the memory that it invokes.
And if they have pictures and they can put it
in an album and then they look at that album,
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it's going to still invoke the same memories and the
same emotions. So there's so many ways of doing it
approaching it, but it always has to be on the
very individual level. I have clients who have almost like
no emotional attach toly, like I don't care, throw it out,
I don't need it. Not many of those, but there
are some. So that's why every situation is very individual
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and you have to approach it very individually.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Right, So do you bring in family Sometimes sometimes the
adult children come in and are part of the process.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Absolutely. A lot of the times, however, you know, when
you bring in adult family, adult children, there's you know,
like a little bit of contention start because you know,
everybody has their own opinions and they start voicing them.
So it most of the time it's a lot less
stressful when.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
They're not around, right, Okay, So you have to basically
get the parents to say like no, no, that's that's okay,
that's okay, I can take care of this.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Yeah, And I think for the most part, most both
parties realize that that's probably the best case scenario because
I approach it with caring and understanding and respect.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Yet I am not emotionally attached, so which makes it
you know, like I bring reason to the situation as
opposed to when you know, when it's family members, there's
a lot of emotions that start coming up, and sometimes
it has to be done without them around.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, yeah, I think sometimes it can be done as
a two step process. Right, So you go through with
the homeowners who are leaving, and you say, all right,
this is the stuff you're taking, this is the stuff
you're not taking. So either you're going to throw this
or you're going to get but to your kids, so
bring them in and you say to them, Okay, who
wants this stuff? You know, and you know, kind of
force the decision making on or you know, what things
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do they want to take? You know, and sometimes they can,
you know, there's some disacline that people kids want both
want the same thing, so forth. But I think that's
that's a way to do it where you really sort
of systematize it, you know. But then you know, the
parents kind of put them on notice, like I'm not
taking this, So it's up to you. If you don't
want it, then fine.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Absolutely, and it usually does happen that way. The parents
tend to usually bring their children in and ask them
like do you want this? Do you want this crystal laws,
you know, and you know, if the kids say yes,
then they'll take it. If not, then like if it's
still if it has the sentimental value, they tend to
take it with them. But there's definitely you know, like
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there are many things that the children will take, and
then there's a lot of things that the parents feel
that they should be taking, but the kids really don't
want it. But we really try to donate a lot
because I always feel like there's so many people who
really can use things that you know, my clients can't
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use anymore, and it gives them a new life and
everybody's happy about it. We try to donate as many
things as possible.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, I think that's a really good approach because there
are things that you know, even that I have now,
like okay, we have all this wedding china right which
we hardly.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Use any use it anymore.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
My sons are not gonna want it, that's for sure.
So think about how to donate that people who can
use it.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
That's good absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, So, uh what should move on to move on to?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Home?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Well, I guess home modifications and and organization. I guess
that's part of it too, because I think that's also,
as you mentioned earlier, an issue not only in terms
of clutter, but in terms of safety for old.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Absolutely and and really that's the number one concern for
all of us safety because falls, as you mentioned, is
the more it really is a major major reason for
morble mortality in the elderly. So we want to prevent
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that as much as possible, and the best way to
do it is make your home safe. So home safety
modifications once again where my interior, my physical therapy degree
comes into into play significantly, and home safety modifications. I
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was just talking to someone today actually, even placement of
grab bars, there's a way to do it where your
grip strength is going to be better than at other angles.
You know, you can call in a hand a man
who's just going to put the hand the handbar where
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they kind of feel like it should be. But there's
always an angle that well, if you grasp something, you
can understand that, like your your grip strength is different
at different wrist angle, placing it on the wall. I
recently spoke with a friend who said that her mother
in law had grab bars put in into the bathroom
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and she fell well reaching for it. So there's so
many different ways to implement the safety modifications. A lot
of the homes have saddles that are you know, very high.
Reducing them, it saves a lot of issues. Widening doorways,
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increasing the lighting, putting threads on stairs, moving the furniture out,
you know, to opening up spaces, removing the clutter, changing,
modifying inside the shower, of the bathroom, the kitchen. And
it doesn't have to be the entire house because most
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of us, especially the elderly, live and you know, they're
they have their routine. They they're in their bathroom, they're
in their bedrooms, kitchens, you know entry. Basically most of
them don't go beyond Even if somebody has a five
five bedroom house, they're not going to go into the
rest of the bedrooms. They live in. Those in the
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space that they live in, and that's the space that's
very important to modify, and it could be done. It
doesn't have to look constitutionalized. This is where my interior
design degree comes in of like get my interior designed,
but it in reality can have esthetically pleasing appearance and
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yet save you know, like serve safety and be very
safe and functional. Even though the grab bars can be
put in in so many different places. I have put
in grab bars by the front door, so when an
elderly person comes up to the door and they need
to open the door and they step back to open
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the door, a lot of the falls happen in that instant.
If they have a grab bar by the door, by
the doorframe, they can hold on to it while opening
the door. So and I really bring in my you know,
I try to think outside the box. I don't believe
in cookie cutter solutions. As I said with concierge movement management,
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I think all the solutions have to be unique and
unique to that individual because everybody has different needs.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Right Okay, well that's a good spot to pause. So
we are going to take another quick break right now again.
Once again, folks will be coming back in a couple
of minutes to talk a bunch more with were not
a class. The founder of agis living, so don't go anywhere.
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Speaker 2 (36:18):
Welcome back, folks once again. I'm Ron Roell, the host
of forty five Forward on Bowl Brave TV. We're talking today.
We were not a glass, the CEO of Ageless Living,
which is a company that deals with home modifications to
age in place, but a lot of related issues that
go into making a home safe and secure for older
(36:39):
people but people of all ages actually, So before the
break we were talking about about home organization, and during
the break we were talking a little bit about the
issue of clutter and some of the things that you
get to an excessive stage of hoarding. So how do
you deal with these situations or not?
Speaker 3 (36:58):
So hoarding is that point an issue? That's not. It's
very challenging and some are more successful than others. When
somebody calls me with a referral for hoarding situation, I
never tell them that, you know, we can definitely be
successful because it really depends on an individual. We are
(37:22):
pretty successful dealing with it, and I have had great success.
Boarding situations are tough because you're dealing with a client
who does not want to get rid of anything, and
that's why they're in that situation. They do not see.
Reasoning with them is sometimes very difficult because they do
(37:42):
not see the safety implications. So it's a lot of
it is just talking from experience, and as I said,
being a physical therapist, they kind of trust me with
that aspect a little bit more as far as the safety.
But it's definitely a very challengemaging thing to work with.
(38:04):
It's organizing the whole it's organizing the home in the
way where everything that they need is within reach, it's accessible,
and getting rid of the stuff that they really do
not need and a lot of it is not a
lot of the times it has nothing to do with
the sentimental value of the things. It's something else that
(38:29):
they're holding on to. I recently went and did an
assessment on a lady who's in her eighties has clothes
since she was married, like she has not gotten rid of,
like probably of anything at all. And I love clothes.
(38:51):
Most of us ladies like our clothes. This was very excessive.
And every time I would try to you know, speak
with her from just kind of like try to explain
to her, like, well, maybe the fashion is not there
and it doesn't fit you anymore, she had an explanation
and excuse for every single thing. So like that's and
(39:14):
that's very difficult then, and she had daughters who they
were the ones who brought me in, and it was
very it was very difficult. It was very difficult to
kind of get through. And because she did not she's like,
but I can still wear it. But you know, reason
doesn't always work. So those are like very challenging situations.
(39:37):
But we have had a very good success as well.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah, it is challenging. I think that's you know, so
now physical therapy, but need to be you know, a
psychologist to deal with some of these issues.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yes, but I think just working with people in general,
it's good to be you know, a little bit of
a psychologist just to you know, be able to deal
with them. Yeah, because we all have our our issues,
we all have our idiosyncrasies and and and it's very
important to respect people for you know, for their feelings
(40:14):
and who they are, but yet try to kind of
refocus them and and and get them to allow you
to help.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Them, right.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, And sometimes you need to engage the family, need
to engage help or there there. I'm sure you work
with people who do who do sales, you know, States
sales before things happened. And you know, I remember doing
a story when I was the act to editor News
Day about someone who was dealt with decluttering and and
(40:46):
saw this house, uh in a in a nearby community,
and it was it was just stuffed and it wasn't
like actually junk, It wasn't like the old newspapers. But
this the the widower who lived there collected everything. He
was a Ham radio operator. He hit every Ham radio.
He had every every TV, every you know, every game
(41:10):
that his kids ever played. And you know, actually a
lot of the stuff was of you know, collector's value.
So you know, they did bring in some people who
specialized in this kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
And it definitely helps, like if they if they can
sell their items, so definitely sellful. But we're also dealings
a lot with individuals that lived through not having much,
you know, whether it's Great Depression or World War two.
You know, people did not have as much as what
(41:46):
we have every day. When you know, at some point
they were able to obtain those things and they just
hold on to them and everything has value just in
case what if I can use it? What if I this?
What if I that?
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Right? Right?
Speaker 3 (42:02):
And this is where the attachment comes in as well.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah, yeah, but it is a hazard, as you mentioned,
you know, a clutter of safety. But I think also
it's it's a mental health hazard, right. I mean, if
you if you live in all this clutter, you can't
focus and organize your life. So it does become a
mental health issue.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
When you help, it's very stressful and it gets to
the point where it gets out of hand where they
are they don't even know where to start. The job
becomes they realize that it needs to be cleared, they
realize that it needs to be organized, but the job
becomes so severe that they don't even know where to start,
(42:46):
and the stress of it can really really affect your health,
your mental health and your physical health as well as
well as you know, your physical for safety. So it
definitely has a lot of implications.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Right, So let me could go back a little bit
to some of your process about when you work with clients.
I mean, so you're come into house, what what's what
steps do you go through? I mean do you just
go through you know, do you walk through the rooms
and then sort of ask questions about what do they do,
where do they spend their time, you know, what things
are important to them.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
So I always start with an interview, like I always
start with like an informal interview. I speak with people,
we sit down and we talk because they have to
be comfortable with me before they can allow me to
enter their life because essentially I'm entering their life and
you know, invading their private space and autonomy. So unless
(43:48):
they're comfortable with me, they're not going to allow me
to do that. So it always starts with a conversation
and I never have a time limit on the conversation,
you know, and a lot of the times they start
telling me about stories about their lives and their children's
lives and you know, their family lives and I and
I really truly enjoy that and they feel it. So
(44:10):
once they get comfortable, and during that process, I really
I try to decipher what's really important for them, what
their priorities are, because sometimes they don't even know with themselves,
but in the conversation I can pick up a little
pieces of bits of information that will really make it,
(44:32):
you know, very obvious what's really needed and what difficulties
they are having. And hope I also like to speak
with their either children or caregivers to give me input
as well what difficulties they're having throughout the day. So
that I would say is the most important aspect is
(44:53):
getting as much information as possible. As a physical therapist,
I alway is do like you know, I try to
find out their medical history, which is also very important.
And knowing their medical history and knowing what the progression
is going to be of their disease if it's something
like Parkinson's or a stroke or you know what I mean,
(45:16):
so I kind of understand what the progression is going
to be. So when we do the modifications, I try
not to just accommodate the limitations of today. I try
to accommodate the limitations that are yet to come. And
then obviously I walk through their home and assess the spaces.
(45:39):
I kind of it's almost it almost jumps sat at me.
I always say, you can take me out of physical therapy,
you can take a physicals out of me. I come
into a home and the first thing I see is,
you know, like where the issues might be. I'll see
the saddle, I'll see the curb, I'll see the stairs,
(46:00):
see the the railing, the doorways, the lighting. It just
jumps out at me and obviously all those things down.
I like to take videos and pictures with personal client,
and then I go home and I compile a list
of things that I believe, you know, could be my recommendations.
(46:26):
After that, I speak with the family and the client
and we kind of make a decision what is important.
We trioge I like the word trioge, kind of trioge
what's more important, what's less important? And we attack things
that are you know, really really important, like have the
most value as far as for safety and function, and
(46:48):
you know, we try to depending also on you know,
their ability to because we are a private pay company.
Depending on what their needs and abilities are. We will
implement those modifications that are the most necessary and we'll
(47:08):
bring in the most value and keep them as as possible.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yeah yeah, good, Okay, Well, we need to sneak in
another break, our last break, but we will come back
and do a wrap up with you and get some
final thoughts. So folks, stay with us. We will have
some final thoughts and advice and observations from Monautaclass, the
founder of Ages Living, So don't come in here, We'll
(47:35):
be right back.
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Speaker 2 (49:38):
Welcome back, folks to our final segment with Ernonda Glass,
the CEO of age of Living. I've been talking a
lot about how to help people aid in place in
a very comprehensive way, from home modifications to inter design
and concier's moving services. So I have a few thoughts
I wanted to share with them Ranada before we finished
(50:01):
the show. But I wanted to make sure that we
get in some of the contact decisions, so so we
don't get cut off at the end there. But so
we're not People do have questions for you, how do
they contact you? So we have a website give us
some you know, contact stuff.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
So I believe in age less living and that's why
I need my company, Ageless Living. So the website is
very easy. It's w w W h less Living and
y dot com. My email address is Ranata R E
n A t A at age Lessliving and y dot
com and you can also reach me at nine one
(50:43):
seven seven four eight nine three three two. Great, okay,
I'm pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Good good okay, So I want to make I get
that in before when the show closed out and now
some sort of yeah, some some final thoughts again, you know,
any any thoughts on some of the lessons you learned
a long way, perhaps some things you didn't expect, or
surprises or rewards that had come up along the journey.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
I think life is full of surprises and definitely puts
us on journeys that we never expect to be on.
I think embracing those journeys is extremely important and be
flexible enough to kind of go with the flow. That's
one thing that I certainly learned in my life. Never
give up. And aging gracefully is really a reality. And
(51:46):
my mission is truly fulfill make make seniors lives full
of life and independence and autonomy, and everything that I
can do to help, I really truly strive to do that.
I always feel like the aging population is unfortunately very overlooked.
(52:12):
People talk over them, and it really I always strive
to kind of make them feel relevant, make them feel
because they live their lives, they have they're full of
wisdom and humor, and they're just they're population that we
(52:36):
can learn so much from and I love working with them.
I love having conversations. I had one client asked me,
actually not once, but a number of clients ask me
the question, do you like what you do as we're
packing their you know, stuff of forty fifty sixty years,
And my answer was, I don't necessarily love the packing
(52:59):
part or going through the belongings, but my favorite part
is having the conversations and interactions with these individuals, learning
so much, having laughs, and you know, seeing seeing them
as human beings that they are, and they're amazing, They've
lived amazing lives and we can all learn so much
(53:20):
from them.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Yeah. Yeah, I think from my perspective, it's the importance
of kind of what you do is to think about
a little bit of ahead of time, which is why
I call my show forty five forward. It's like, this
is where you're going to be. Look at where your
parents are, your other loved ones, and that's going to
be you. So think about it, you know, and if
you do, they will. As you said, there will always
be surprises, but there are ways you can plan while
(53:44):
not predicting, and then you have lots of options, you know,
and some of the things that you recommend for people
as they're older, as you well know, are great for
people when they're in middle age and younger. Face you
know absolutely. Yeah, so this, I know this, and there's
a lot more we can talk about. We're going to
have to leave it there for today, but I want
to thank you Nanna for a terrific show. I want
(54:06):
to thank my engineer Alex for helping me through the show.
As always, once again, folks, I'm your host Ron Roell.
You've been watching forty five Forward on bolt Rape TV.
Thank you for spending the hour with me, helping me
learn and grow and hear inspiring stories from people like
Mananata make a journey successfully through the second half of life.
(54:27):
So be sure to join me next Wednesday, seven pm
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is the CEO and founder of Celebrating Women. It's a
global platform she created to amplify women's voices and visibility.
So then, folks, until then, keep moving forward forty five forwards.
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So now please welcome the host of forty five Forward,
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Speaker 2 (01:15):
Welcome everyone to forty five Forward on Bold Brave TV.
I'm your host, Ron Rowell Ontario's show. We're going to
talk about something that's of importance to a lot of us,
which is how do we age in place safely, successfully,
and comfortably for as long as possible now. To do so,
many of us hire what are known as aging and
(01:36):
place specialists who help us make home modifications and alterations
to make sure that we're safe and secure, mostly to
prevent us from the possible deadly implications of a fall.
But there are few specialists who are really like gunaut
A Glass, who is the founder of Agentists Living, and
(01:57):
she has a very holistic approach to aging and place,
which not only includes home modifications, but a lot of
other services like customized move management, home organization, decluttering, and
how to use interior design in a way that really
reflects your Famili's personal preferences and desires. She works with seniors,
(02:20):
of course, but she works with families of all ages,
helping them transition at every stage in life. So now, folks,
let's meet our guests or not a glass and learn
more about her age friendly approach to aging in place.
So we're not a welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Thank you, Ron. It's a pleasure to be here and
speak with you.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, pleasure to have you. This is something that I've
been looking at for quite some time. We've started making
some changes in my home and you know, and something
that I mentioned in my Caregiving Navigator guide about aging
in place. So we're going to get into all the
things that you do with your company, which I think
(03:00):
is a really comprehensive approach. But I want to start
a little bit much about you. You know, you have
a very interesting background. I understand you came to this
country from Lithuania at age fourteen, So tell us a
little bit about your backstory and then we'll get right
into your company.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yes, thank you. So, as you said, I came to
this country at fourteen, I came and I went to
high school, so I feel, you know, I've been here
for a while. Definitely very American with a European soul.
I always say that, but that being brought up, you know,
(03:40):
my younger years in Europe that really instilled respect for
the elderly because back where I came from, the elderly
were held at a very high esteem and I carry
that throughout my life and my respect for them as
really infiltrated every aspect of what I do professionally.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, that's that's that's a great intro. I mean, I
think that that is something that you know, people talk
about in this country, that you know that there is
persistent issue of ageism in this country, and it goes
back both ways actually, you know, for older people and
toward younger people too, so it can go in any direction.
(04:27):
But I think definitely, you know that people do talk
about that is an issue more so with our youth
oriented culture, which of course, as you know, flies in
the face of demographic reality, right, which is that we
are in an aging society, you know, and you know,
so so you did hopefully so yeah, yeah, and so
(04:51):
you but you also had a diverse academic background in training.
So you know, one of the things I found interesting
was that that you were originally working a lot in
physical therapy.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yes. So in nineteen ninety six, I graduated from NYU
with a degree in physical therapy, which I continued back
then physical therapy. All that required was a bachelor's degree,
and I went from my master's degree for my graduate
degree to LAU at a Brooklyn campus, and my specialty
(05:28):
was neurological rehab and this is what I truly loved
to do. I've always loved neurological rehabilitation, and this is
where my niche was as a physical therapist, and I
did that for many years. I also worked with kids.
I worked at very various fields of physical therapy. I
(05:50):
did a cute, I did rehab. I did TBI, which
is traumatic brain injury, which would include stroke injuries, all
neurological injuries, and I didn't I worked in nursing homes, hospitals,
many different settings. But I always loved, as I said,
(06:11):
working with the elderly, and I've been doing that since then,
I don't really do physical diarcty that much anymore, although
I do still have some private clients that I work
with I have worked with for years, but I continue
bringing my knowledge and my experience and expertise into ageless
(06:33):
living services that we provide. Notion.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, so when you say neurological rehab, so is that
basically you're working with their physical capability but as a
result of some sort of neurological damage or accident or
some event. Is that right?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Absolutely so. Most most of the impairments were due to
either a stroke or Arkinson's disease or traumatic brain injury
or anything that would really impede their mobility and due
to neurological you know, either something that happened as a
(07:16):
result of an accident or it could have been you know,
something that progressed any neurological damage to their uh, their
system and usually professes in mobility limitations. Yeah, and those
who are my favorite clients, and you.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Know, yeah, yeah, you know, it's important that people like
you're working in this field. You know, it's something that
you know, I think you sort of take it for
granted im even you know that you're you know, in
the the able bodied community. You know, we say, well,
there's able body and then there's those with disabilities, and
that's the line is is much more fluid than that,
(08:02):
and it's not quite you know, black and white one
or the other. And you know, I remember, you know,
not nearly.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Well.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
There are a couple of situations. I remember one where,
you know, I was I was commuting to New York
City and taking a train and I was running to
the train and I stepped halfway off a curb and
turned my ankle badly, and I managed to hobble to
the train and get on and you know, go to work.
(08:33):
But then the next week or so, Boy was that hard,
you know, and just the realization that how much we
don't acknowledge, you know, the fine line between disabled and abled,
you know, and help few accommodation.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Healthy ankles and all the other joints and everything about
our bodies for granted, until we don't until something happened,
and it's front face, and you know, we're facing the
limitations because.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Of it, right right, you know. And And the of
the other incident was when I was a few years
ago working extensively, I think it was it was it
was the beginning of the pandemic. Anyway, I was doing
a lot of you know, writing work and was sitting
a lot and uh and one morning after I finished
(09:27):
this project, I woke up and I was like in
excruciating pain all over the place from a lack of
physical exercise and from being you know, uh, sort of
repetitive motion industry, but an interesting way from you know,
keeping my muscles in one position all the time. And
so the and what what what was the remedy? You know,
(09:49):
there were lots of theories about what happened, but the issue,
but the the solution was physical therapy. That's what what
Whatever it was they were, you know, all sorts of
theories that doctors saying maybe room toward right it is,
blah blah blah. But it was physical therapy that really
helped get me through it.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
So yeah, I'm great believer in physical therapy. Five these reasons, yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So so then you started your career in physical therapy.
But then you then, I think in twenty twenty one,
founded Ages Living. So what was that like? You know,
so now you become you know, I guess it was
sort of an entrepreneur before that, but making the leap
like this, I think really sort of on the not
(10:33):
quite end of the pandemic was right in right in
the middle, right.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
So my journey kind of started at the beginning of
the pandemic because just like everybody in my life was
significantly affected by it. We couldn't work, and I started.
I've always wanted to start my own business, and this
(10:59):
was an opportunity that I was basically kind of like
fell into my lap. I knew I had to start
to do something. There were a lot of changes, and
I started Ageless Living, and Ageless Living started as safety
Modifications company because safety modifications is something that I did
(11:19):
as a physical therapist that would come to somebody's home
and I would assess their living space and make recommendations.
So I kind of felt like, this is exactly what
I need to be doing with my company. So my
company started in I believe it really started in twenty twenty,
(11:42):
but really took off and was fully created in twenty
twenty one, and then over the years it developed into
other things because I as I was dealing with clients,
clients would ask me, oh, can you do this and
can you do that? So it kind of like moved
(12:02):
into and expanded and we expanded the services. Home safety
modification goes hand in hand and home with home organization. Also,
I need freak full disclosure. So that really because if
somebody is living at home and wants to age in place,
(12:23):
and as we age, we kind of tend to gather
a lot of things, and you know how, and we
don't get rid of as many that as many things
as we kind of bring into the house. So home
organization is becomes a real issue, and especially as we
age in mobility issues become more prominent. We need to
(12:47):
deal with things that are clutter and you know, furniture
being placed in certain ways. So that kind of naturally
just evolved into home safety modifications, whole organization decluttering part
of it. Then I've always done interior design for family
(13:09):
and friends. I've always been very creative as a child
that went to art school. It was always a part
of my life. And during the pandemic, I was reading
an article and I came up on this article that
kind of mentioned this lady who decided to get a
(13:29):
degree in interior design, and I started looking into it
because that was something that was very interesting to me.
I started looking into it was New York, New York
Institute of Art and Design, and during pandemic, I went
back to school and I got my degree in that
(13:51):
so it further it further expanded my my knowledge, my
my It opened my eyes to a lot of other things,
and I started implementing interior design together with safety modifications
(14:11):
and home organization, and I saw how effective it is
for people who would like to age in place safely.
But I think aesthetic is very important in our homes.
So it's very important to have the function and the
safety part of it, but also the aesthetic aspect of
a whole. Because our home is our haven, a safety
(14:35):
where we come in and we like to unwind and
have you know, like be fulfilled in our homes. And
by bringing safety, function and aesthetic beauty into it, it
really makes a huge difference. That's how that came about.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that you know, a lot
of our careers are are more they're intentional, but they're
accidental and then we sort of figure.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Out and that's the beauty of it, I.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Think, yeah, yeah, yeah, So yeah, what I'd like to
do is take a deeper divant each of these services
that you provide well.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
And I'm sorry to interpret, but also the concierge move management,
really it kind of incorporates all of them, so I
know you want to like, I just wanted to mention
that was like another service that we provide, and it
really incorporates every single expertise, you know, every everything that
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we do, every service. It really blends it in right right.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Okay, So we'll do another quick overview after the break.
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Speaker 2 (18:03):
Welcome back, folks. This is Ron Rebellion, the host of
forty five Forward on bowld Brave TV. We're talking today
with Peranata Glass, who is the founder of Age us Living.
Before we get back to or Not, I just wanted
to mention to my audience that if you know friends
and family or acquaintances who are missing the live show today,
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it many ways. So before the break, we were talking
to her not about her company and the kind of
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services she provides. It's really a suite of services that
go together to help people aging place in lots of capacities.
So I wanted to take a deeper dive in some
of her services and starting off with some of her
I guess her. Here is move Management, which ties in
a lot of our services, So let's start with that
right now.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yes, So, as we spoke before the break, my business
kind of grew from you know, from its first day
and it kind of evolved with each day based on
the needs that my clients expressed. So Move Managing and
(19:26):
I always say that it's a concierge Move Managing because
we really take such good care or our clients. I
think what really sets me apart is the fact that
I really make every every service that we provide is
very individualized. So I always listen to the clients. I
kind of get in tune with their personalities and I
(19:47):
think it probably stems from my being a physical therapist
and working with seniors so many years. I listen to
what their concerns are because every everybody has different concerns.
Everybody has their stres and weaknesses, and I try to
tap into those when we provide the service. So our
concierge moving services. If somebody has lived in their home
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for you know, forty fifty sixty years enough, most as
most of my clients have, they accumulate a lot of stuff,
a lot of the stuff. It really has a lot
of sentimental value to the client, and it's very important
to make sure that we don't overlook that and we
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we really you know, respect their memories. So you have
to kind of they realize they have to downsize, but
that cup that has a you know, a break in
it is so important to them and they don't want
to break they don't want to get rid of it
because it was their mother's, you know, their their mothers
(20:56):
when she was little, and they're keeping it. So it's
very important to approach the job with with respect and
and really caring and love and understanding. So we really
hold hold their hand if they need it, because like
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some of them are very independent, and some of them
are you know, but moving is a very difficult process
and it's it's a very stressful process. So what my
job is, I can't really take fully stress away. But
what my job is, my mission is to take to
make it as stress less as possible. So whatever whatever
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it requires, we help them go through their belongings and
decide what they need to keep and what they need
to donate and what to get rid of. We help
them pack everything up and move to the new whether
they're going into an independent living, assisted living, or a
smaller home. I help them kind of decide what furniture,
(22:01):
and this is where my interior design comes in. I
help them with placement of the furniture. I have helped
them if needs to be ordered, you know, so it's
functional and safe and once again esthetically pleasing. We help
them set up their new home, we clear their whole
(22:22):
for sale. So I work with a lot of professionals
and I bring in a lot of resources as needed.
But the process is I make it as smooth as possible.
And you know, most of my clients are like very
happy with the process because they really like we really
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try to take the stress away from a very stressful process.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I was talking to someone recently who was involved in
a similar field, and he mentioned that of the three
biggest stresses in life, one is the top one is death,
dealing with death, the second is dealing with divorce, and
the third is moving. Yeah. I mean, it's just it's
(23:12):
disrupting your world, and it's disrupting you know, and you
know you have to do it, but boy is it.
You know, take a toll and you know, you're you're
letting go, you're moving forward. But it's I mean, I
think that people does underestimate the emotional toll that this
kind of change takes on you.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Right, It is an amazingly, amazingly stressful situation. It could
be my when I was moving. My son said to me, said, Mom,
but you do it all the time with other people,
but it's very different when you do it for yourself
because the emotions are overwhelming. And we're also dealing with
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elderly people who have lived in their homes forty fifty
sixty years and they raise their families, their kids were
born in those homes. Everything that they remember themselves as
adults are associated with that home. So also the loss
of independence, at least that's how they feel, because they
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were independent and autonomous in this home and now they
have to give it up. And a lot of the
times it's because of loss of one of you know,
a partner. So they're dealing with so many emotions and
that's why it's so important to make it as respectful
and as caring as possible.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, and I think that their emotional attachments, you know,
as you were talking before, I was thinking, well, about
the you know, the personal attachment of things that go
that I have now that go back to my childhood
that I took from my mother's home when we absolutely
she passed away, and I just focused just you know,
oddly was I was thinking about. I have this glass
(24:59):
call which I just called the grape glass. I was like,
the grape glass. It was this purple trends loosened, very
reflective glass that you know, for whatever reason, I was
transfixed on as a kid, you know. And you know,
so figuring out what things, you know, you need to
(25:19):
hang on to and what the you know, what you
need to make choices about stuff, and you know.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
It's also important to talk about it, to talk about
the value of those things, the sentimental value, because I
think a lot of us, like once we kind of
express it, especially to their family, they have to express
it to their kids. The kids have to really listen
to them why it's important. We also suggest frequently to
take pictures of the items, not necessarily like keep them,
(25:49):
just because it's about the memory of the of the item.
It's the association that you make, not necessarily the item
itself or you know, like most of them will not
drink from that cup, it's just the memory that it invokes.
And if they have pictures and they can put it
in an album and then they look at that album,
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it's going to still invoke the same memories and the
same emotions. So there's so many ways of doing it
approaching it, but it always has to be on the
very individual level. I have clients who have almost like
no emotional attach toly, like I don't care, throw it out,
I don't need it. Not many of those, but there
are some. So that's why every situation is very individual
(26:32):
and you have to approach it very individually.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Right, So do you bring in family Sometimes sometimes the
adult children come in and are part of the process.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Absolutely. A lot of the times, however, you know, when
you bring in adult family, adult children, there's you know,
like a little bit of contention start because you know,
everybody has their own opinions and they start voicing them.
So it most of the time it's a lot less
stressful when.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
They're not around, right, Okay, So you have to basically
get the parents to say like no, no, that's that's okay,
that's okay, I can take care of this.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Yeah, And I think for the most part, most both
parties realize that that's probably the best case scenario because
I approach it with caring and understanding and respect.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Yet I am not emotionally attached, so which makes it
you know, like I bring reason to the situation as
opposed to when you know, when it's family members, there's
a lot of emotions that start coming up, and sometimes
it has to be done without them around.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, yeah, I think sometimes it can be done as
a two step process. Right, So you go through with
the homeowners who are leaving, and you say, all right,
this is the stuff you're taking, this is the stuff
you're not taking. So either you're going to throw this
or you're going to get but to your kids, so
bring them in and you say to them, Okay, who
wants this stuff? You know, and you know, kind of
force the decision making on or you know, what things
(28:08):
do they want to take? You know, and sometimes they can,
you know, there's some disacline that people kids want both
want the same thing, so forth. But I think that's
that's a way to do it where you really sort
of systematize it, you know. But then you know, the
parents kind of put them on notice, like I'm not
taking this, So it's up to you. If you don't
want it, then fine.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Absolutely, and it usually does happen that way. The parents
tend to usually bring their children in and ask them
like do you want this? Do you want this crystal laws,
you know, and you know, if the kids say yes,
then they'll take it. If not, then like if it's
still if it has the sentimental value, they tend to
take it with them. But there's definitely you know, like
(28:54):
there are many things that the children will take, and
then there's a lot of things that the parents feel
that they should be taking, but the kids really don't
want it. But we really try to donate a lot
because I always feel like there's so many people who
really can use things that you know, my clients can't
(29:16):
use anymore, and it gives them a new life and
everybody's happy about it. We try to donate as many
things as possible.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, I think that's a really good approach because there
are things that you know, even that I have now,
like okay, we have all this wedding china right which
we hardly.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Use any use it anymore.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
My sons are not gonna want it, that's for sure.
So think about how to donate that people who can
use it.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
That's good absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, So, uh what should move on to move on to?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Home?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Well, I guess home modifications and and organization. I guess
that's part of it too, because I think that's also,
as you mentioned earlier, an issue not only in terms
of clutter, but in terms of safety for old.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Absolutely and and really that's the number one concern for
all of us safety because falls, as you mentioned, is
the more it really is a major major reason for
morble mortality in the elderly. So we want to prevent
(30:33):
that as much as possible, and the best way to
do it is make your home safe. So home safety
modifications once again where my interior, my physical therapy degree
comes into into play significantly, and home safety modifications. I
(30:53):
was just talking to someone today actually, even placement of
grab bars, there's a way to do it where your
grip strength is going to be better than at other angles.
You know, you can call in a hand a man
who's just going to put the hand the handbar where
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they kind of feel like it should be. But there's
always an angle that well, if you grasp something, you
can understand that, like your your grip strength is different
at different wrist angle, placing it on the wall. I
recently spoke with a friend who said that her mother
in law had grab bars put in into the bathroom
(31:36):
and she fell well reaching for it. So there's so
many different ways to implement the safety modifications. A lot
of the homes have saddles that are you know, very high.
Reducing them, it saves a lot of issues. Widening doorways,
(32:00):
increasing the lighting, putting threads on stairs, moving the furniture out,
you know, to opening up spaces, removing the clutter, changing,
modifying inside the shower, of the bathroom, the kitchen. And
it doesn't have to be the entire house because most
(32:21):
of us, especially the elderly, live and you know, they're
they have their routine. They they're in their bathroom, they're
in their bedrooms, kitchens, you know entry. Basically most of
them don't go beyond Even if somebody has a five
five bedroom house, they're not going to go into the
rest of the bedrooms. They live in. Those in the
(32:43):
space that they live in, and that's the space that's
very important to modify, and it could be done. It
doesn't have to look constitutionalized. This is where my interior
design degree comes in of like get my interior designed,
but it in reality can have esthetically pleasing appearance and
(33:04):
yet save you know, like serve safety and be very
safe and functional. Even though the grab bars can be
put in in so many different places. I have put
in grab bars by the front door, so when an
elderly person comes up to the door and they need
to open the door and they step back to open
(33:25):
the door, a lot of the falls happen in that instant.
If they have a grab bar by the door, by
the doorframe, they can hold on to it while opening
the door. So and I really bring in my you know,
I try to think outside the box. I don't believe
in cookie cutter solutions. As I said with concierge movement management,
(33:51):
I think all the solutions have to be unique and
unique to that individual because everybody has different needs.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Right Okay, well that's a good spot to pause. So
we are going to take another quick break right now again.
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Speaker 2 (36:18):
Welcome back, folks once again. I'm Ron Roell, the host
of forty five Forward on Bowl Brave TV. We're talking today.
We were not a glass, the CEO of Ageless Living,
which is a company that deals with home modifications to
age in place, but a lot of related issues that
go into making a home safe and secure for older
(36:39):
people but people of all ages actually, So before the
break we were talking about about home organization, and during
the break we were talking a little bit about the
issue of clutter and some of the things that you
get to an excessive stage of hoarding. So how do
you deal with these situations or not?
Speaker 3 (36:58):
So hoarding is that point an issue? That's not. It's
very challenging and some are more successful than others. When
somebody calls me with a referral for hoarding situation, I
never tell them that, you know, we can definitely be
successful because it really depends on an individual. We are
(37:22):
pretty successful dealing with it, and I have had great success.
Boarding situations are tough because you're dealing with a client
who does not want to get rid of anything, and
that's why they're in that situation. They do not see.
Reasoning with them is sometimes very difficult because they do
(37:42):
not see the safety implications. So it's a lot of
it is just talking from experience, and as I said,
being a physical therapist, they kind of trust me with
that aspect a little bit more as far as the safety.
But it's definitely a very challengemaging thing to work with.
(38:04):
It's organizing the whole it's organizing the home in the
way where everything that they need is within reach, it's accessible,
and getting rid of the stuff that they really do
not need and a lot of it is not a
lot of the times it has nothing to do with
the sentimental value of the things. It's something else that
(38:29):
they're holding on to. I recently went and did an
assessment on a lady who's in her eighties has clothes
since she was married, like she has not gotten rid of,
like probably of anything at all. And I love clothes.
(38:51):
Most of us ladies like our clothes. This was very excessive.
And every time I would try to you know, speak
with her from just kind of like try to explain
to her, like, well, maybe the fashion is not there
and it doesn't fit you anymore, she had an explanation
and excuse for every single thing. So like that's and
(39:14):
that's very difficult then, and she had daughters who they
were the ones who brought me in, and it was
very it was very difficult. It was very difficult to
kind of get through. And because she did not she's like,
but I can still wear it. But you know, reason
doesn't always work. So those are like very challenging situations.
(39:37):
But we have had a very good success as well.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah, it is challenging. I think that's you know, so
now physical therapy, but need to be you know, a
psychologist to deal with some of these issues.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yes, but I think just working with people in general,
it's good to be you know, a little bit of
a psychologist just to you know, be able to deal
with them. Yeah, because we all have our our issues,
we all have our idiosyncrasies and and and it's very
important to respect people for you know, for their feelings
(40:14):
and who they are, but yet try to kind of
refocus them and and and get them to allow you
to help.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Them, right.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, And sometimes you need to engage the family, need
to engage help or there there. I'm sure you work
with people who do who do sales, you know, States
sales before things happened. And you know, I remember doing
a story when I was the act to editor News
Day about someone who was dealt with decluttering and and
(40:46):
saw this house, uh in a in a nearby community,
and it was it was just stuffed and it wasn't
like actually junk, It wasn't like the old newspapers. But
this the the widower who lived there collected everything. He
was a Ham radio operator. He hit every Ham radio.
He had every every TV, every you know, every game
(41:10):
that his kids ever played. And you know, actually a
lot of the stuff was of you know, collector's value.
So you know, they did bring in some people who
specialized in this kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
And it definitely helps, like if they if they can
sell their items, so definitely sellful. But we're also dealings
a lot with individuals that lived through not having much,
you know, whether it's Great Depression or World War two.
You know, people did not have as much as what
(41:46):
we have every day. When you know, at some point
they were able to obtain those things and they just
hold on to them and everything has value just in
case what if I can use it? What if I this?
What if I that?
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Right? Right?
Speaker 3 (42:02):
And this is where the attachment comes in as well.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah, yeah, but it is a hazard, as you mentioned,
you know, a clutter of safety. But I think also
it's it's a mental health hazard, right. I mean, if
you if you live in all this clutter, you can't
focus and organize your life. So it does become a
mental health issue.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
When you help, it's very stressful and it gets to
the point where it gets out of hand where they
are they don't even know where to start. The job
becomes they realize that it needs to be cleared, they
realize that it needs to be organized, but the job
becomes so severe that they don't even know where to start,
(42:46):
and the stress of it can really really affect your health,
your mental health and your physical health as well as
well as you know, your physical for safety. So it
definitely has a lot of implications.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Right, So let me could go back a little bit
to some of your process about when you work with clients.
I mean, so you're come into house, what what's what
steps do you go through? I mean do you just
go through you know, do you walk through the rooms
and then sort of ask questions about what do they do,
where do they spend their time, you know, what things
are important to them.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
So I always start with an interview, like I always
start with like an informal interview. I speak with people,
we sit down and we talk because they have to
be comfortable with me before they can allow me to
enter their life because essentially I'm entering their life and
you know, invading their private space and autonomy. So unless
(43:48):
they're comfortable with me, they're not going to allow me
to do that. So it always starts with a conversation
and I never have a time limit on the conversation,
you know, and a lot of the times they start
telling me about stories about their lives and their children's
lives and you know, their family lives and I and
I really truly enjoy that and they feel it. So
(44:10):
once they get comfortable, and during that process, I really
I try to decipher what's really important for them, what
their priorities are, because sometimes they don't even know with themselves,
but in the conversation I can pick up a little
pieces of bits of information that will really make it,
(44:32):
you know, very obvious what's really needed and what difficulties
they are having. And hope I also like to speak
with their either children or caregivers to give me input
as well what difficulties they're having throughout the day. So
that I would say is the most important aspect is
(44:53):
getting as much information as possible. As a physical therapist,
I alway is do like you know, I try to
find out their medical history, which is also very important.
And knowing their medical history and knowing what the progression
is going to be of their disease if it's something
like Parkinson's or a stroke or you know what I mean,
(45:16):
so I kind of understand what the progression is going
to be. So when we do the modifications, I try
not to just accommodate the limitations of today. I try
to accommodate the limitations that are yet to come. And
then obviously I walk through their home and assess the spaces.
(45:39):
I kind of it's almost it almost jumps sat at me.
I always say, you can take me out of physical therapy,
you can take a physicals out of me. I come
into a home and the first thing I see is,
you know, like where the issues might be. I'll see
the saddle, I'll see the curb, I'll see the stairs,
(46:00):
see the the railing, the doorways, the lighting. It just
jumps out at me and obviously all those things down.
I like to take videos and pictures with personal client,
and then I go home and I compile a list
of things that I believe, you know, could be my recommendations.
(46:26):
After that, I speak with the family and the client
and we kind of make a decision what is important.
We trioge I like the word trioge, kind of trioge
what's more important, what's less important? And we attack things
that are you know, really really important, like have the
most value as far as for safety and function, and
(46:48):
you know, we try to depending also on you know,
their ability to because we are a private pay company.
Depending on what their needs and abilities are. We will
implement those modifications that are the most necessary and we'll
(47:08):
bring in the most value and keep them as as possible.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yeah yeah, good, Okay, Well, we need to sneak in
another break, our last break, but we will come back
and do a wrap up with you and get some
final thoughts. So folks, stay with us. We will have
some final thoughts and advice and observations from Monautaclass, the
founder of Ages Living, So don't come in here, We'll
(47:35):
be right back.
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Welcome back, folks to our final segment with Ernonda Glass,
the CEO of age of Living. I've been talking a
lot about how to help people aid in place in
a very comprehensive way, from home modifications to inter design
and concier's moving services. So I have a few thoughts
I wanted to share with them Ranada before we finished
(50:01):
the show. But I wanted to make sure that we
get in some of the contact decisions, so so we
don't get cut off at the end there. But so
we're not People do have questions for you, how do
they contact you? So we have a website give us
some you know, contact stuff.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
So I believe in age less living and that's why
I need my company, Ageless Living. So the website is
very easy. It's w w W h less Living and
y dot com. My email address is Ranata R E
n A t A at age Lessliving and y dot
com and you can also reach me at nine one
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seven seven four eight nine three three two. Great, okay,
I'm pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Good good okay, So I want to make I get
that in before when the show closed out and now
some sort of yeah, some some final thoughts again, you know,
any any thoughts on some of the lessons you learned
a long way, perhaps some things you didn't expect, or
surprises or rewards that had come up along the journey.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
I think life is full of surprises and definitely puts
us on journeys that we never expect to be on.
I think embracing those journeys is extremely important and be
flexible enough to kind of go with the flow. That's
one thing that I certainly learned in my life. Never
give up. And aging gracefully is really a reality. And
(51:46):
my mission is truly fulfill make make seniors lives full
of life and independence and autonomy, and everything that I
can do to help, I really truly strive to do that.
I always feel like the aging population is unfortunately very overlooked.
(52:12):
People talk over them, and it really I always strive
to kind of make them feel relevant, make them feel
because they live their lives, they have they're full of
wisdom and humor, and they're just they're population that we
(52:36):
can learn so much from and I love working with them.
I love having conversations. I had one client asked me,
actually not once, but a number of clients ask me
the question, do you like what you do as we're
packing their you know, stuff of forty fifty sixty years,
And my answer was, I don't necessarily love the packing
(52:59):
part or going through the belongings, but my favorite part
is having the conversations and interactions with these individuals, learning
so much, having laughs, and you know, seeing seeing them
as human beings that they are, and they're amazing, They've
lived amazing lives and we can all learn so much
(53:20):
from them.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Yeah. Yeah, I think from my perspective, it's the importance
of kind of what you do is to think about
a little bit of ahead of time, which is why
I call my show forty five forward. It's like, this
is where you're going to be. Look at where your
parents are, your other loved ones, and that's going to
be you. So think about it, you know, and if
you do, they will. As you said, there will always
be surprises, but there are ways you can plan while
(53:44):
not predicting, and then you have lots of options, you know,
and some of the things that you recommend for people
as they're older, as you well know, are great for
people when they're in middle age and younger. Face you
know absolutely. Yeah, so this, I know this, and there's
a lot more we can talk about. We're going to
have to leave it there for today, but I want
to thank you Nanna for a terrific show. I want
(54:06):
to thank my engineer Alex for helping me through the show.
As always, once again, folks, I'm your host Ron Roell.
You've been watching forty five Forward on bolt Rape TV.
Thank you for spending the hour with me, helping me
learn and grow and hear inspiring stories from people like
Mananata make a journey successfully through the second half of life.
(54:27):
So be sure to join me next Wednesday, seven pm
Eastern Time, when I'll be talking with Diane Curley, who
is the CEO and founder of Celebrating Women. It's a
global platform she created to amplify women's voices and visibility.
So then, folks, until then, keep moving forward forty five forwards.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
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Tune in each week as Ron tackles the many aspects
of health, finance, family and friends, housing, work, and personal pursuits,
all as part of an integrated plan and to take
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