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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm sure you've heard of many of the tull girl stereotypes.
We have masculine, intimidating athlete, amazon or Amazonian or whatever.
And there's one that isn't really spoken about a lot,
or at least I haven't spoken about it a lot,
and it's the strong stereotype. Yes, physically, mentally and emotionally strong.
Were there any times where someone has asked you to
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help carry something heavy and they say, oh, you're big
and strong, or when you're facing struggles someone may say, oh,
you can handle it, right. Those are just a few
examples of the strong stereotype. So today we're going to
dive deeper into that and how this affects how people
speak to and act towards us. So let's get into it.
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Good morning, everybody. You are currently listening to a Tall
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you all are doing great. I just want to give
a quick little reminder to the tall girlies listening right
now that you guys are awesome. Okay, quick little story time.
If you didn't know, I'm going to guard school and
there was some welcome reception that I attended, and there
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was this lady who works there who came up to
our table and was just talking to a few of us,
and after we introduced ourselves, she straight up said, oh
my gosh, I love because there were a couple tall
girls standing at that table, or I should say, a
couple girls who were taller than her standing at that table.
She's like, oh my gosh, you guys are tall. Like
I absolutely loved Tall Girls. I was like, period, queen.
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I don't know. I feel like that would have been
a good segway to be like, by the way, a
Tall Girls podcast, but I didn't. I don't know. She
was just talking about how she loves, you know, tall people,
and how she's short, etc. But I just want to
say that there are people out there who absolutely love
and adore and admire us tall girlies. So I thought
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that was adorable and figured that I would bring that
up on this podcast. All right, now that that's out
the way, let's talk about these strong stereotype question for
the tall girlies. I recently saw a video that was
titled tall girls aren't treated feminine or I guess in
a feminine way. What are your thoughts on this? Do
you agree with this? While you figure that out or
common or whatever. I'm going to play a clip from
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the video.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I wanted to make a video talking about general biases
that women who are plus sized, tall, black, and just
big in general get. I am five eleven, I've always
been plus sized, and I've always been tall my entire life.
People view you like like you're not. You're supposed to
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be able to handle the things that come to you
because of your height, because of your weight, because of
your your race, et cetera. You're supposed to always be
somebody shoulder to cry on, the person to call for advice,
the person who listens to everyone else's problems, all of that.
It's exhausting. Frankly, it's very exhausting. But I've experienced this
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particularly with like males, like male friends, male whatever, coworkers,
male whatever, just males just in general. And you get
treated in a way where it's almost like you are
too big to be a victim of anything, whether it
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be violence, whether it be I don't know, harassment, bullying,
et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
That isn't real. Just because someone has.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
An outward appearance of a certain way does not make
them less feminine, It does not make them less intelligent,
It doesn't make them, you know, less of anything. Like
Sometimes a person who has been violated is the victim,
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and it's unfortunate that people do not view us as that.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And I find it very interesting that she mentioned that
a lot of these experiences occurred from men, or men
were involved in a lot of the experiences that she's had,
And with that, it kind of seems like it rolls
over into the dating world. Maybe, I don't know. Let's
listen to this example.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Let's talk about dating while being a tall woman. For reference,
I'm five point ten number one. Many think i'd be
wanting to wrestle. Yes, I'm tall, but I don't want
to wrestle. You may thinking I want to play, like
play them in basketball. I don't want to play basketball
with you, like go play basketball with your homies. I
don't want to play basketball with you eighty men that
are shorter and have little man syndrome, Like there's little
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man syndrome, but then there's like, you're a tall woman,
so he got little man little man syndrome.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
But it's not only men, Okay. On Reddit, it seems
like there are a lot of experiences with men, women, old,
young children, et cetera. Yeah, the tall girlhos on Reddit
are talking about how people and strangers have made passive
aggressive comments to them, call them rude names, gave them
mean looks.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Et cetera.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
So these are just some examples of aggressive behaviors towards
tall women. And I've spoken about this in another episode
where I discussed how people and adults even may have
higher expectations of younger tall people or tall children because
they're often seen as or perceived as older because of
their height because usually taller people are old. You know,
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I mean, I guess that this is pretty straightforward yeah,
so they may be given more responsibility for their age,
or they may be expected to act more mature or
do more things that you know older adults would do,
or even receive harsher criticism. Now, why is this the case?
Why do some people act more aggressively towards tall women?
Why are they expected to handle struggles and aggression more
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easily or aggressive behavior more easily. This is kind of
where we go into the strong stereotype. It seems like
there are people who treat tall women a bit harsher
because height is often viewed as masculine. So to them,
the taller you are or the more height you have,
the more you should be able to handle. Now, let's
hear more about this height equaling masculinity type of experience.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
The first time I was ever called manly or masculine
was when I was ten years old. One time I
went to the movies with my dad and my mom
and an uncle, and then we went to get Chinese food,
and I had an uncle tell me, wow, Ayisha, you're
just like your dad.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
You look just like a man. I was ten. I
have never in my life been called a man.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
I had never in my life been told something so
unwarranted by someone that I was supposed to be inspired
by or look up to.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
And I still remember how it made me feel when
he told me that.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
I remember bursting out into tears, crying, and my mom
talked to him. My mom talked to him, and he
eventually apologized. And now that I'm older and make social
media content, I've gone viral on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube,
and I have been the subject of so much transphobia,
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so much masculinization of tall women, black women. I have
had death threats, I have had disgusting things said about
me and my femininity and if I was a girl
or a guy, and so many things that Honestly, at
this point, I've developed dissociated amnesia to forget the things
that have been said to me in order to just
feel okay as I am now.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
But height gets associated with power. So in a society
that vis as masculine, dominant and authoritative, when a woman
is tall, it kind of disrupts people's idea of what
femininity is supposed to look like, because you know, women
are quote unicot supposed to be feminine, but tall is masculine,
So it's like, huh, Like what's going on here. So
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because we're tall, people just automatically assume we're strong. That's
the association. So because of that, we are, in their eyes,
supposed to be able to deal with more struggles and
in more harsh hardship and more harshness. Even we should
be able to handle quote unquote criticism or rude names
or just brust things off. We're expected to be able
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to handle more, to lead, even, et cetera. So it
really isn't necessarily I mean it could be, but it's
not always necessarily about being tall. It's just about what
being tall or height represents to other people and how
they think we should behave because of it, leading to
them not necessarily caring about our feelings. And listen, nobody's
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really obligated to care about our feelings. I mean, you
kind of expect loved ones, closer ones to you, friend's family,
significant others to care about your feelings, but strangers they're
not really obligated to. But I mean, I feel like,
as a human being in general, in society, you there's
like slight expectation to a certain degree to have some
type of respect.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
For a person.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I did run a poll over on Instagram, and I'm
gonna do just a quick little plug here. Make sure
you follow me on Instagram at a Tall Girls podcast
so you can participate in these polls and have your
opinions heard on these episodes. But I did run a
pole asking you guys, do you think people treat tall
women more harshly because of their height? And I will
say the answers, the responsors or whatever. It was like,
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I wouldn't say super duper even, but it was it
was pretty close. Forty percent of you guys said yes,
twenty seven percent of you guys said not really, and
thirty three percent said maybe every once in a while,
but obviously the most being yes or every once in
a while. So I mean that just goes to show
that stuff like this does actually happen, like some of
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us actually feel this way, and some of us tall
women have actually experienced this. So I found it very
interesting that it was pretty mixed. But for the most part,
tall women feel as though we're treated harshly because of
our height, whether it's from time to time or often
or whatever it may be. But in their minds it's
kind of like, oh if I say this or do
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this to them or give them a rude look or whatever,
They'll be fine. They can brush it off, they can
handle it because height is associated with being strong, being masculine,
being able to handle harder things. And while we're talking
about comments and rude names and stuff, now, as a
tall person in general, when people act rudely towards you,
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or call you mean names or give you backhanded comments,
what's your response, like, what's your go to ultimate comeback?
Let me know, because I'm trying to take notes now,
I kind of want to go back to the man
thing that the lady was talking about earlier when she
said that a lot of the aggression and the aggressive
behaviors and the rudeness comes a lot from men, or
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male coworkers or just males in general. Listen, I'm not
hating on men. I know this is not all men. Okay,
I'm just throwing that out there. I'm not hating on men.
But there's another layer to this as to why people
treat tall Why some people, I should say, treat tall
women the way that they do, and with that I
mean in an aggressive manner and so forth, And that
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is insecurity. As we now, height is seen as masculine.
So when a woman is let's say, around a man,
and that woman is around their height or at the
same height as them, or even taller. They're like, a
woman taller than me, the same height as me, more masculine.
Maybe she looks more masculine because she's taller than me,
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or maybe they feel like, oh, this woman may have
a sense of power over me because she's taller. And
by the way, these are insecure men, but they may
not know how to process that. They may not know
how to name that feeling or why they even feel
that way. They may not even know how to seek
help for it. So they take it out on the
person that makes them feel that way, the people that
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makes it feel that way, and in that case that's
tall women. Instead of admitting to themselves or maybe to
other people about their insecurity or uncomfortability, they feel the
need to lash out and act aggressively towards them a
to maybe make that tall women feel less than so
they feel like, oh, I put fear in this person's
heart and that makes them feel better, or to make
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it seem as though, oh they're tough, they're bigger, they're better,
they're stronger. Either way, it's kind of like a sick
twisted way of making them feel better about their heighter
themselves and or making the other person tall woman feel
less thand so that they can kind of I don't
want to say, kind of get a kick out of that,
but Okay, if I feel bad about myself, I'm gonna
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make that tall woman feel bad about herself.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Essentially that they'd rather try to scare us or make
us feel uncomfortable, or make us feel as though there's
something wrong with our height. Listen to this clip really quickly.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
I'm six feet tall, so I know I'm tall for anyone,
but like particularly for a girl today, I'm not gonna walk.
This man comes out, taps me on the shoulder and goes,
I just want to let you know I think you're
too tall. Would you like me to slouch? Would that
make you feel like less than asculated? Don't want to
walk on my knees? Like what would make you feel comfortable?
Like as if I'm walking around here not knowing that
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I'm tall, Like I woke up one day, I'm like, oh,
the ground's really far away. I don't get what it
is with people in height, Like no one would ever
come up to you and be like, Wow, your hair's
really brown.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Men.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I did want to pull over on Instagram asking you, guys,
do you think some men feel threatened by your height?
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Wopping ninety percent of people's and oh yeah, I've noticed that,
and only ten percent said hmm, not really ninety percent.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I did expect it to be a high number, because
a lot of the tall women that follow me on
social media are in fact over six feet, are probably
over like six one six two, they're like six two
six three, six four. There's even one woman who's six'
eight who actually hit me up to respond to this
survey or pole and she, said it's not a tall girl.
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Problem if weak men feel, threatened and you, know that's
basically the entire. Point they feel threatened because of their.
Insecurity that doesn't mean that they have every right to
lash out at us or act aggressively towards, us or
be rude to us and so forth and so, on
but it does go to show, that, hey, like there
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are some men out there who feel threatened because we're
around their hight because we're tall or, maybe and then
this kind of serves us to why they act the
way they do towards us they should, though we should
treat everybody with. RESPECT i will say, that but you,
know the pole speaks for. Itself ninety percent of you
guys feel like some men feel threatened because of our.
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Height so very. Interesting tall women deserve respect without being
viewed as or called, intimidating to be seen as beautiful
without being, sexualized to just exist without being made to
feel as though our height is a problem because it's.
Not our height is not a. Problem other people's insecurities and,
societies views and stereotypes are the. Problem, okay our height
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shouldn't affect the way other people treat. Us our actions
should and our feelings most definitely should not be. Dismissed,
okay we may be, tall but we got feelings. Too
we are human, beings you, know we have, emotions and
we should be treated as women as any other woman
would be, treated of, course with respect and all of. That,
anyways thank you so so much for tuning. IN i
really appreciate, it AND i appreciate you of course as.
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Always feel free to hear me up on my socials
at A Tall Girls podcast and let me know what
you thought about this. Episode do you agree that this
strong stereotype kind of plays a role into how people treat,
us how people see, us how people talk to, us
and all of. That i'm genuinely, curious AND i thought
that it was very interesting to explore this topic a
little bit more BECAUSE i don't THINK i don't. KNOW
i don't know if this is necessarily like a, stereotype
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the strong, Stereotype BUT i Mean i've heard it with
like the strong black woman for, Example and, YES i
definitely do think that race and skin color and. Etc
does play a part in. That BUT i also do
think that hype plays a part into it, too, because
AS i said, before height equals. Masculinity SO i want to,
know do you think that height plays a part in
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the strong? Stereotype do you think that plays a part
in why some people may feel the need to lash
out at, us or disrespect, us or be rude to,
us or even act aggressively towards. US i want to,
Know and if you have any, experiences of, course feel
free to share in the comments where you're tuning into this,
episode or even just shoot me A dm on my
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social is going to be linked in the. Description i'm
up for a. CONVERSATION i love talking to you, guys of,
course when it's respectful and within. Reason but if you
want to feel free to hit me up and let me.
Know and until Then i'll catch all in the next.
One Good night and. Goodbye