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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is probably one of the biggest struggles tall women
face finding genes, but not just any old pair of jeens,
genes that are actually flattering and long enough. If you
just had flashbacks or cringed or reacted in any way
by what I just said, you probably understand the struggle.
It's not uncommon for a tall woman to walk into
a store, bright and eager, ready to buy a pair
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of jeans, pick a few of them off the rack,
try them on, and they fit like capris. Oof have
some bad memories right now, and online it's even worse
because you can't even try them on before you buy them.
It's easy to get excited when you see these quote
unquote tall sections, purchase a pair of gens from there,
get it in the mail, only to try them on
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and find out that it has a thirty two inch
en seam. How is that inn seem even tall? Honestly,
I have no clue, But why is this gene struggle
so bad for tall women? And how does this affect
our relationship with jeans and clothes and fashion overall? We're
going to answer these questions today. More so, let's get
into it. Good morning, everybody. You are currently listening to
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is going to be linked in the description. Today we
are talking about the denim dilemma. Doesn't that sound cool?
Denim dilemma. It literally falls right off the tongue. And
if you say dilema, no tin, no shade, but you
are crazy. I mean, I guess I get why some
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people say dilema to kind of like differentiate that I
and the E and dilemma, but I mean, it's it's dilemma.
And I was going to be like a little bit
more specific with that and say the jeans dilemma, but
denhim dilemma just hits kind of different. But I feel
like denim is also very broad because it could be jeans,
but it could also be jackets, it could be dresses,
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it could be tops, it could even be hats. But
denhim dilemma just works, you know, all right, enough dilemma
about the denim dilemma? Who say that five times fast?
Today we're going to be talking about jeans and how
jeans can honestly be a tall woman's best friend and
a tall woman's nightmare. Tall women have always had a
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complicated relationship with jeans. We've all had that pair that
fits more like a priest, or that pair that is
long enough but only because the crotch is basically to
our knees, or if you're a short, tall girly, that
pair that's simply way too long. It's a disaster, he says,
a disaster. And after that last part you're probably wondering,
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is it even possible for geenes to be too long
on tall women? Well, if you're a short, tall girly
like me and you're trying on true tall jeans, then yes.
And I'm talking to the five nine, five ten, maybe
five eleven girlies. When I ask this, can I relate.
But anyways, don't just take it from me. Let's hear
from a couple of tall creators, you know, talking about
the struggle with finding jeans.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
So I'm six feet tall and finding pants as a
six foot tall woman with a thirty eight inch in
scene sucks. I have never bought a pair of pants
in person. Okay, that's fine, Why though, don't you carry
any long lengths of pants in person? I still need
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to try on pants, and I am sick and tired
of buying the goddamn pants that are too short and
having to return that.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Average height women don't understand the struggle of finding pants
that fit us. Taller girl, for reference, I'm almost five
eight the struggle. I had just went shopping, and I
don't tend to try on clothes at the store. I
have no problem going back to return it because it
also gives me another reason to look around at home.
And I try on the pants it's too short on
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me do a thing that I would know by now.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
My girl like, yeah, where are we getting I gens from?
Because if I have to unpick one more pair of
jeans to gain like one centimeter, I'm unpick myself.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
I can't do it anymore?
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Where are we getting I genes from? Somebody tell me please?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, there's a reason why the whole genes situation is
probably one of the top tall girl problems on any
like you know those sites or those forums that talk
about tall girl problems and like list them out and
so forth. Like one of the first ones that you're
gonna come across is finding a pair of genes. And
this problem is honestly multi layered. It's not just about length,
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even though you know length is a big part of it,
but it's also about proportions, like what I spoke about
before with the crotch literally being to our knees, and
that's what the pair of jeens is long enough. Okay,
I'm exaggerating when it's to our knees, but it can
look like you have a very long crotch area and
it could be unflattering. It could also be the thigh
area too, Like the proportions on these things can just
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be off. But going back to the crotch part, there's
something called a drop crotch. Have you ever heard of that?
Listen to this clip really quickly hold up.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
I get this question all the time. I'm gonna go
ahead and address it now. Today we are measuring your
in scene from your lady bits to where you want
your pants to hit. That is your en scene. I'm
a thirty five. But remember not all pants get red
at the crotch. Some of them have a drop crotch,
meaning a few inches here that they hang down. Therefore
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you gain that on the n sea. So these thirty
four inch pants totally fit me because of that.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Drop crotch, now you know so, yeah, the drop crotch
makes things a lot more complicated. And then on top
of proportions, on top of length, we also have struggles
with styles, truth be told, especially mainstream stores and fast
fashion stores, they don't really hold that many different types
of styles for tall jeans. Like, they'll have a straight
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geen that's tall. Maybe a skinny jean that's tall. Maybe,
if you're lucky, a wide leg jeans that's tall. But
what about the baggy jeans, what about the boyfriend's style jeans,
the girlfriend style jeans? Like, there are more styles of
jeans than just straight leg and skinny leg. You know that.
I'm sure tall women would love to have access to.
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So I did ask you guys in a poll over
on Instagram, and I'm going to do a quick little
plug here. Make sure you follow me at a Tall
Girls podcast so that you can participate in these polls
and have your opinions heard on these episodes. But I
did ask you guys in a poll over on Instagram,
what is the number one biggest struggle you've had when
shopping for jeans? Forty five percent of you guys said
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length never long enough, Forty seven percent of you guys
said proportions it always fits weirdly, three percent said style
can only find skinny and straight leg jeans, and five
percent said other feel free to DM me to elaborate.
And the elaboration from one of you guys was basically
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just that I think she was six'. Eight in, PARTICULAR
i think she's like six a sixty. Nine she's on
like the higher end of the six foot range of as.
All and she was basically saying that she only has
one pair of genes that actually is long enough for,
her and everything else is too, short which IS i
can understand that because she's six' eight and they barely
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make genes for women who are like six foot, sixty
one let alone. Six eight you, KNOW what, i mean,
but yeah it seems like the top two struggles is really.
Just Length but i'm actually shocked that proportions took like
the win here is the number one by a, little
bit but is the number one struggle for many? Of
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us very INTERESTING because i would have thought that length
would have taken, the win taken the w if, you
WILL because. I don't i think that's just like a
big struggle for us growing, Up ESPECIALLY but i guess
now that because my audience is like women that are
thirty to, Fifty RANGE so i, think, that yeah now
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that we have, auctions nowadays now the biggest thing that
they're experiencing that's a struggle is finding stuff that's like halfway,
decent proportions so not crazy long crotches and, you know
fitting around the thigh or fitting around the, waste area
hit area and so forth and. So ON so i
find that. Very interesting so why is there this lack
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of tull clothing? For women why is it so hard
for us to walk into a store and find a
pair of jeans that are long enough and are flattering
and fit. US Well a reddit thread explained. It beautifully
we are. The outliers we are not in the average
portion of the population in terms. Of height so in
regards to more, mainstream fashion more, fast fashion it's not
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really profitable for these brands to cater to us because
they don't think that the demand. Is there they personally
don't think that it's worth it to put forth the
higher costs to produce the genes that are, long enough
because you know that requires more fabric and. So forth
they don't think that it's worth it to put forth
the higher cost to produce these long enough genes for
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us because they don't think that there's enough of us
for them to make, a profit if that makes, any
sense or if they do decide to make quote unquote.
Longer lengths it's not even FOR the i guess you
could say true. TALL women. I wouldn't i don't want
to say true tall women because that sounds like. Really
weird but they more so make it for the above
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average girl least so think five, to seven, Five eight
and because there's more of those women that are gonna
be around, that height then they're more likely to make
more money off. Of them they're more likely to get
a profit off of them versus the ones who are
maybe like five ten five eleven or even six three.
Six' four so to the brands that are making tall
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genes that, aren't actually tall where are you getting your?
Market research from are you even doing? Any market research
because your tall genes wouldn't suck horribly if you actually
understood what. Tall WOMEN need, but i mean it's obviously
dependent on a, lot of things. Such as, location for
example because the average hede of a WOMAN in the us,
is five four but the average hede of a Woman
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in the netherlands is. Five to seven so how the
brand makes the genes for that particular market is obviously
going to vary, because you know there are different height
averages in different parts. Of the world but we also
have to look at fast fashion versus designer fashion because
that offers a, whole new. Intricate COMPLEX level and i
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may do an episode on that, in the future the
whole fast fashion versus designer fashion and why fast fashion
is not really catered towards tall women, but designer fashion depending,
on the brand could be catering. To TALL women and
i will probably go, Deeper into that so let me
know if you want to hear That is. What i'm
saying but one thing is for certain you are not
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a true tall girl if you don't LOOK at the
nc measurement and the model's height when online, shopping for,
genes and yes you have. To, do both now this
may be, a hot take so let me know if you.
Agree or disagree but because of the struggles that many
of us have faced when it comes to trying to
find genes or just closed in general that are long
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enough and fit, our long limbs some of us tall
girlies may have an unhealthy. Relationship with genes let's. Talk
about it we may develop some type of scarcity mindset
because of our struggles to find, long enough genes which
can lead, us, to overshop, slash over consume or unhealthily
cling onto every single pair of tall genes like. It's
our last when you spend years feeling excluded in, the
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fashion industry not finding things, that properly fit stores not,
having your size it kind of triggers something in your
like there's not enough. To go around there are, extremely
limited options and we kind of focus On this lack
that can lead to anxiety and this fear of loss
and can lead, to impulsive behaviors which in a way
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kind of is. The scarcity mindset that's the characteristics of.
The scarcity, MINDSET and listen i am. Not, A psychologist
okay i'm just gonna let you. Know quick disclaimer i'm.
Not a psychologist i'm just talking about the patterns, and
so forth and how that kind of is like kind
of goes hand in hand with scarcity mindset if you.
Think about, it but listen that's just. My personal opinion
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so it can go one. Of two ways you can
panic by once you find that one pair of genes,
that fits you you, buy it again maybe in a
different style or, a different color and again and again
and again until you have way too many pairs of
genes and a. Drained bank account or you hoard genes
because you never know when's the next time you're gonna
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find a pair that, actually fits you and you don't
want to, Risk that stress so even when it's extremely
old and, extremely worn out. You keep them and, TO
be honest i was kind of both. OF those things, i, would,
overbuy overshop overconsume and AT one point i had fifteen.
Pairs Of jeans fifteen you don't need that many. Pairs
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of jeans when you look at, a capsule wardrobe you
need probably only, three OR four but i had fifteen
because anything, that's said tall or anything that said, long
on it or anything that said full, LENGTH on it
i just had. To buy IT because when i, was
GROWING up when, I was younger i just it. Was
a struggle it was like the genes for my, AGE
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quote unquote i guess you could say for, a ten eleven,
twelve year old it was hard to find something that.
Was LONG enough so i would Have to get i'm.
Not saying crusty, it's not krusty but to, ten year
old eleven, year old me it WAS crusty because i
don't want to wear, old LADY jeans but i have
to shop in the WOMEN'S.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
SECTION.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Of j c penny because that was the only jeans that.
Would fit me but then it was too big around
the waist because it's, meant for women, not a child
You know what i'm. Trying TO say so i literally
had so, when you know longer lengths starting, to come
out even though these are, fake longer lengths because they
were never, TRULY long enough i would buy every SINGLE
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pair that. I could see i would buy every SINGLE
pair that, i could find only for them to just
pile up and stay in a corner somewhere in my
closet or in MY drawer because i would literally. Never
WEAR it but i refused to get rid of it
UNTIL one day i decided to try all of them
on come to terms with the fact that these are
these are never going to fit me in, the first place,
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they fit terribly. And donate, them so yeah kind of,
speaking from experience not trying to project, that onto, Y'ALL but.
YEAH i have i have had an unhealthy, relationship with
jeans but it's. MUCH better now i now have four
that fit me well and, are LONG enough and i
have four good ones that. Are in rotation.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Have a problem i'm addicted.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
TO buying genes i think this addiction stems from maybe
five ten and it has always been a struggle for
me to find a pair of genes that not only,
fits me length but in my.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
WAIST as well i did ask you guys in a Poll,
over on instagram when you find a pair of tall
genes that, may actually fit what's? Your next move thirty
four percent of, you guys said ad to. Kart right
now thirty, four, Percent said oh i'll think about it for.
About a week nineteen percent of you guys said screenshot and,
forget it exists and thirteen percent said already own. Too
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many pairs shout out to the people who think about it.
For a week we're making good financial. Decisions THESE days
but i think with the whole thing of overconsumption and
how people are trying to go more, TOWARDS under consumption
i think that's a that's a good what is it
trait or quality or that's a good. Habit, to have
yes add it to. Kart right now that could be
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a sign that we still need to constantly, like that
overbuying over consuming mindset, where it's like, oh my gosh
we have to, have it now we have to get
IT now because i don't know when the next Time
is that i'm gonna be able to find a pair
of genes, as long enough so let me get it right.
Now and listen i'm all, for supporting. Small tall businesses
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i'm all, for you know getting genes that. Actually fit you,
but you know if you have, too many pairs should
we really be? Getting another one YOU know? What i
mean You know what i'm. Trying to say at least thirteen,
percent of us thirteen percent of us are aware that
we have too many, pairs of genes or maybe we
already have enough, pairs of genes, which IS good but
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i feel like more of us may need to realize
that we do have enough. Pairs OF genes but. I
don't know maybe, that's just me that's just. My personal
opinion back. To the episode let me know what you
thought about. These results though so where are the tall
girlies getting their? Genes from nowadays like the ones that
are actually long enough and Don't, fit us.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
Weirdly you're a beautiful tall. Girly like myself THIS is
where i get, on my pants so you don't have.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
To, Go searching okay.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
My number one favorite Of All. Time Banana republic banana
republic long or talls. Are absolutely Phenomenal i'm talking aritzia
quality often forty percent off. And just stunning the, fit is.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Ugh no.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
Words love them where's?
Speaker 4 (17:18):
My? Second?
Speaker 7 (17:18):
Stop gap baby they're. THE same company i own probably
two Hundred pairs of. Gap tall pants they. Are something
else they also have, a folded hem so if you're,
taller than me you can probably, add another, inch ALL
right and i could. PRETEND you're that i go to
like ten different stories, for LONG pants. But i don't
this is. My, last one abercroppie their extra long denim.
Is actually insane do you?
Speaker 5 (17:39):
See this leg do?
Speaker 7 (17:40):
You see this don't really know how, to explain it.
But it is it drags on the, ground, for Me
okay and i'm like six feet tall and my legs are.
My entire body so if you're tall and, you need
pants those. Are, the, THREE okay bye i.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Love you all so for me as a, Short tall
girly i'm standing at about five ten. AND a half
i of my genes Are From, Gap Old, navy American
Eagle and american eagle has long and. Extra long sizes
those places have. Done me right I've, heard ABOUT abercrombie
but i haven't. Tried IT yet, MAYBE i will, i don't.
(18:14):
Know we'll see but if, you're the tall if you're
like an average tall girly or a, TALL tall girly
i would definitely recommend small tall brands because these women
tend to be six feet and up and they. Just
Get it so i'm talking, like elevated closet tall, Size Alloy, apparel.
Corby hallbrook etc so THAT is all i have for.
(18:36):
You guys today thank you so much. FOR tuning in i,
really APPRECIATE it and i appreciate you of. Course as
always feel free tohit me up on my Socials At
a tall girls podcast and let me know what you thought.
About this episode do you agree that some tall women
out here have an unhealthy relationship with jeans or is?
It Just me maybe i'm the only one who once
had an unhealthy relationship with jeans in terms, of, over
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consuming overbuying and then basically hoarding all of those genes
fully knowing that it's time, to donate them it's time
to get rid of them by Keeping them, because, i'm,
like oh like these are probably the longest pairs OF
genes that i. Will ever find is that a similar
experience that you had or? Somebody you know or is?
IT just, me i mean if, it's just me and
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it is. What IT is but i just, want to
say thank you so much, For tuning in let me know,
in the comments let me know. In the dms hit
Me up and i'm down. For a discussion, And until
then i'll catch y'all in. The next one good. Night
and goodbye