Is 3i Atlas the UFO Mothership NASA Doesn’t Want You to See?

Did Avi Loeb just admit the 3i Atlas UFO could be a mothership—and is NASA hiding the truth?


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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, friends, Welcome to the Truth Seeking Errand Podcast.
We've been away for a while. We've been on some adventures.
We've been on a little bit of a sabbatical, kind
of taking a break, and we did our Proclaiming Eden
retreat back at the beginning of October, which was awesome.
We had so much fun.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, it was so powerful and really special moments. I mean,
it happens at every retreat, but this one had some
really special moments that were key highlights for us and everybody,
and just so grateful that we get to do that
invite our friends and community to come along. It was
so much fun.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
We did that, and that was just fun of just
being able to reset and plug in nature was amazing
and I was blown away of how quickly you can
detach from technology and from internet and from media and
stuff and just put your feet on the ground and
watch the sunrise and the sunset in the same day.

(01:00):
We had fun at that retreat and then going to
Chiha a few days away with me, you and Evea,
our daughter. She for her twenty first birthday. We asked
her what she wanted and she said she wanted to
go camping, so she wanted to go camping with the family,
and we loaded up for two days and with the
dogs in the vehicle and took off.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, it was really really fun being able, like you said,
to watch the sunrise and set on her birthday from
camping and being able to wind down, reset our circadian rhythms. Like,
it really doesn't take long, guys. If you feel the
technology is getting to be too much, just take a
day or two, Like, it really doesn't take long to
get a full reset with mother nature.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah. So we've been getting a lot of emails and
messages about ufology and things that's in the media and
on social media. I guess social media is the Mediah
at this point. But three I Atlas is something we've
been hearing about for a while, some type of comment

(02:01):
or something that's headed towards the Earth, and different people
have different theories. And an astrophysicist Avi loweb yes is
that his name, said that he believed that this was
a UFO mothership headed to the Earth.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
He gave a pretty big number too. He said he
believes thirty to forty percent certain that it is not
a natural occurring substance, that is, some other ship of
some kind.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Is that a big number though?

Speaker 2 (02:33):
I feel for a scientists, I feel.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Like a big number is more than fifty, Like you know,
like once you hit that fifty one percent, then it's like, Okay,
this is something we should look into. I feel like
that the other percentage is like it could be you know, yeah,
maybe you know kind of thing, because that's what.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
He's pretty big for a scientist though.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
But to lead with your story and facts and controversy
with a thirty to forty percent possibility, Like, what's the
other possibility? Is that it's just you know, a comment
in debris or something.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
It seems to be. Most of his comments are very controversial.
Like he even made a comment that if you're going
on a vacation, to plan it before October twenty ninth,
because we don't know what's going to happen after that.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah, and that was like the first mention of it
when it first came out. He went on the Miambiolic
Blossom podcast and kind of announced it and gave that
that statement and sent a lot of people in like
shock and frenzy kind of thing. Is like, because this
is the end.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
You know, Yeah, that's what it sounds. He makes it
sound like it's the end of everything, so kind of scary.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
And it was weird because I think that was announced
close to the time of the rapture stuff that was
going down to, you know, and so people were tying,
you know, both of them events together and thinking that
this was the rapture. But mind you, we are past October.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yep, we're still here, November seventh, We're still here, still
doing well, I.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Think we are.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Maybe we're all still just plugged into the matrix and
it's been fake all along.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah. Well, I mean he's said some pretty explosive comments
about this this UFO mothership that he thinks is what
this thing is headed this way.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, I saw. One of his beliefs is that it
is following the trajectory behind the sun so we can't
see it that well, so that it can disperse like
hundreds or thousands of many drones or many ships of
some sort, like a trojan horse. Like this thing is
a big shell containing a lot of little things that

(04:47):
are going to come out and come around and attack
the earth, affect the Earth. He's not real specific on
what he thinks they're going to do.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
But yeah, the first thing that comes to my mind, Like,
I mean, that's a cool theory, but where do you get, like,
what's the basis for astrophysicists even like having that idea.
Star Wars sci Fi? Yeah, released the drones probably from
the movie Yeah, Independence Day. Did that happen, right? Little

(05:20):
drunes came out of Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
I feel like it. And definitely on Star Wars, I mean,
all the little fighter ships come out of the big ship.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
So well, here's the thing, because you know, in Hollywood,
everybody knows at this point that they put the truth
in there. There's like almost this hidden rule where they
have to kind of sprinkle some of the truth about
their plans or what's really happening. They had to put
it in movies and media and stories and stuff like that.

(05:48):
But the thing about it is when it really happens,
people point back to the movies and think that it's
just Hollywood or you know, sci fi. But you know
they've been kind of telling you the truth the whole time,
which is one of the interesting things.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, so I wanted to get your take on something.
There's a podcast host Jeremy Corbel I think his name is,
and he's the host of the Weaponized podcast and supposedly
in June of this year, he made some statements about
a false flag event that would be coming that the

(06:26):
US government is now starting to reveal the validity of
UAP claims and alien life being a real legitimate thing.
They're starting to confirm it and say, yeah, it's true.
But his belief is that they're starting to sprinkle in
nuggets like that so that they can release their own

(06:48):
narrative about extraterrestrial life. And he even said in June
that he believes that the US government is going to
say that a mothership is coming this way. I think
he said it was coming they would do it around
twenty twenty seven. But you know, with these claims in

(07:08):
this Big three I at Liss, Yeah, thing headed toward Earth.
Some people think that it could end up being the
mothership false flag event. So yeah, what do you think
about that?

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, you know, I think to a degree, all of
it's a part of the false flag saying. You know,
I was I was thinking about a lot of the
things that Avey Lorb even said about the drones coming
out of something and flying around like that's and the
false flag event being this the things that like they

(07:45):
keep you looking for something to happen so that you
won't be focused on what is already here and already happening.
And it's the same way that I look at a
lot of Christian Bible prophecy is that you know, we're
looking for the coming of Christ versus, Hey, Christ is
already here and he like within the hearts and minds

(08:08):
of every person or every every Christian on the planet. Right,
and he Jesus even taught this kind of thing, right,
And I feel like if they keep us looking for
the next thing that's coming, we miss and it's a
disservice to what's already here. So UFO motherships and drones
are already here. There are already some type of flying

(08:33):
objects that are releasing drones, and many people have got
this on camera. We've got our own footage of what
looks to be the jellyfish UFOs or u f UAPs.
When you slow down the footage, they blink and they
release drones, and then other ones come and blink a

(08:55):
different color and collect the drones. And the drones are
so small or at least to the naked eye, and
so fast that you can't even capture them on on footage.
So like all of this stuff that we should be
looking into and asking deeper questions. I think that a
lot of this stuff deflects to have us push the

(09:16):
goalpost out further and further of what's coming, what's coming,
what's coming versus what's all ready here. Yeah, And I
also tied into like in the church realm of like
this prophetic movement about what's coming, what God's going to
do in your life, you know, And so it became
this thing we just make up stuff. We knew people

(09:37):
that would give out so called book deals. You got
a book in you, You're you're gonna write a book,
You're gonna do this and go do great things and
to like encourage you, which is cool for that, But
then like but they're like making it up as they
go and they can just on on to the next
church versus like those who really can operate in the prophetic,

(09:58):
who show up and be able to look at you
and tell what you wait for breakfast, They know your
father's name, your grandfather's name, where you were ten years ago,
Like they're able to operate in that kind of level
of the prophetic. So you have this idea of like
a false flag or the false or the fake false
profits or fake information being out there, so that it

(10:19):
it's the wheat and the tears. Yeah, so you can't
distinguish the truth from fiction.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah. And then two, if they control the narrative and
they control when information gets released a lot of times.
I think we saw it, you know, back in twenty nineteen,
twenty twenty. The government uses these big catastrophic events to
induce fear in public because when the people are afraid,
they're more easily to be controlled. So, in my opinion,

(10:49):
it could be something that they use as a fear
narrative to control the public or sway the public opinion
to a certain thing that they are trying to establish.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, wasn't it Reagan? Was it Reagan who made the
famous speech saying that the only thing that's going to
bring us together was a UFO invasion or a threat
from an off world entity?

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Was it him? I think George Bush Senior said some
stuff like that too, didn't he.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
George Bush Senior had the I know, you know, you
may be right. It may be Senior, need to look
it up.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, I do remember that speech, and it was kind
of interesting to hear it from the lips of a
president and this is pre AI. So it was an
actual recorded speech. It wasn't something manufactured with a computer.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah, so I'm looking it up. Now. Which president had
the famous UFO speech Jimmy Carter?

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Oh, we were both wrong.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Well this is his uh no, this is like, this
is all presidents who talked about UFOs, is what this is.
So so that's what this is his UFO encounter. But
all of them have had encounters. I know that, even

(12:22):
what's his name Clinton, He even wrote about his in
his book. Yeah, you know, so they've all talked about
UFOs to a degree, but the one about bringing us together.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
So another interesting thing about the Jeremy Corbel statement was
he made the statement in June of this year, and
it was actually in July when this three I atlas
was discovered. So that's kind of the timeline of those
two events is kind of suspicious to me. Yeah, like, oh, well, well,

(12:59):
the cat's out of the bag, we might as well
go ahead and announce it and push it forward.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah. It was Reagan. Ronald Reagan. During a nineteen eighty
seven address of the United Nations, he used a hypothetical
scenario of an alien threat to argue for the international
cooperation and the need for the world to unite against
a common enemy, suggesting global differences would fade in such

(13:24):
a situation. Yeah, like this one world government and that's
what people would cite. And like even at that speech
is super eerie for him to say that, like to
speculate of something that he already knew about, this off
world threat. But it is something that shocks the people
and unites the people, is to give them a common enemy. Yeah,

(13:48):
and it seems like for the most part throughout the year,
they pit us against each other. So we think that
each other is our enemy. Right, we have this you know,
we're all saying the same things or want want something,
you know, the well being of our family and for others.
And then but it's just you know, how we're going

(14:08):
to get that is done differently Democrats and Republicans and stuff.
But then at some point there's an outside threat that
like trumps all of the you know, smaller social issues
that we're arguing and fighting and rioting and protesting about.
Once you give us another enemy, so we see nine
to eleven is when you know, America was the most

(14:30):
united and even the COVID you know how many people
came together, but still you know that divided so many
people as well. So it's just divide and conquer tactic
that's always been done. And I think they've had this
went up their sleep for a long time.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah, yeah, I guess. I guess we should all just
be waking up to the fact that we don't need
to let people use us and sway us that way. Yeah,
you to question things more and question narratives more, because
all of the what I would call like UFO encounters

(15:08):
that we've had haven't been scary for me. I've never
seen a nuts and bolts like ship come down, and
they have never been tried to be abducted or anything
scary like that. But when we interact with the lights
that we see in the sky at night, it's always
this euphoric, like exciting feeling. It's never never something that

(15:31):
I was afraid of, like all in wonder all struck
for sure, but not like afraid.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Until they get close. Then I get afraid.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah. I haven't had one get close enough to make
me scared yet.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Well, you remember when we were in Colorado, there's this
man you land on that big rock overlooking the water
and looking at the stars. Oh yeah, light they started
heaving and like you started coming down from the stars,
headed like directly towards us. Yeah, and just and I
was it was all fun and games. Hold on, Aaron,
this thing is getting close. And I kind of started

(16:06):
panic in a little bit. Yeah, And it turns out
it was it was an airplane. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
But usually we're like, hey, could you could you come close?

Speaker 1 (16:12):
And I'm like, hey, I was like, we need to go.
Maybe I was able to tell that it wasn't friendly,
you know, it was a human, you know, it was
wasn't the benevolent beings from the Zeta rearticular.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
I say, trust your gut in those situations, and you
did so run.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
We were all good, you know what I mean. But
we've had like the lights come down and change form
and interact with us, you know what we call you know,
maybe fairies or something like that, just because they become
tiny particles and pixels and I mean you held out
your hand in one, yeah, came up, you know.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, those experiences are awesome. And if that really is
what we're calling UFOs, you know, if it's the same thing,
then I would think it would be a shame for
people to be afraid to reach out and afraid to
try to have those kinds of experiences because they're beautiful.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Now, I think that's part of the false flag and
the conspiracy, especially with the UFO phenomenon, is that, like
a lot of the stuff we've seen over the years
has been fear based alien abductions, that the aliens are
going to come and abduct people, and you know, the
Travis Walton incident and pushing a fear based even like

(17:26):
Independence Day scenario, right, putting all that in the media,
so that when you have a genuine encounter or you
see lights in the sky, that you won't try to
signal ith or you won't try to make contact and
meditate and see if they can commune telepathically, which obviously
they can. I think is reported, you know, hands down

(17:48):
by almost every contact e or abduction experience that they
communicate telepathically with people without speaking English kind of thing.
You know, it's like, if they commune that away, can
we sit in our backyard and begin to try to
think beautiful positive thoughts and make contact with our mind?
And I say that because I think the answer is yes,

(18:11):
I do.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Too, because like we're in the backyard you know, stargazing
and hoping to have an encounter, and we'll be just
talking like we are now in this room at a
normal tone. How can something that's way up into the universe,
that high up, they wouldn't be able to hear what
we're saying. So it has to be telepathic when they

(18:32):
respond to your voice. Surely they can't hear it from there.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
I mean they could maybe, and you know, they could
have little devices or I don't know. I don't know
the science, you know, but it seems like telepathic because
it's one thing for them to know what you're saying.
That's another thing to them know what you're thinking, or
to implant thoughts to you, and which I've had happened,

(19:01):
you know. I remember the time, I tell you, like
years ago, when I was just getting into the stuff
and excited about it, driving my truck working for Keystone
and driving through the country in Georgia and looking up
and seeing like a fighter jet fly across the sky.

(19:22):
And as soon as I saw the fighter jet like
this download this, you know, impression came to me and
it sounded like me. It sounded just like I thought
that I had just came out of nowhere that said
that that fighter jet is flying to scare off a
UFO that's parked in the sky and to look to
the to the right and see it. And literally I

(19:43):
turned my head and looked in the path that the
fighter jet was headed, and there was an object sitting
there like reflecting the sunlight that's just perfectly still. And
as soon as I said, oh, I looked at it
and made the connection that it kind of like all
that I knew, it vanished and disappeared and the jet

(20:04):
kind of flew through it. And that was like one
of my first like interactions like, oh, this is this
is crazy. So we talk about like trusting your instincts
and going with your gut feeling and stuff, and like,
you know, maybe we are connected to not just you know,
UFOs or aliens speaking telepathically. We're connected just like E. T.

(20:26):
And Elliott was connected. But we're because if we look
at the the psyop or the false flag, that the
reality is we're connected with all life. All life is connected.
We're connected with each person, with each animal, with you know,
the microbiome of our guts, of the of the land

(20:48):
around us, all the leaves that have come and have
died and changed, and we're all life is connected. And
I think that that's even a bigger part of the
psyops too, too, to make us forget who we are
and where we came from and how you know, these

(21:09):
things speak to us because all that stuff speaks to
you telepathically thought forms and impressions in the way that
you're feeling. Like so, so I look at all of
that kind of stuff too, like double down on what's
already here. You're already connected. So maybe if they are there,
you tune into their signal boom, they can hear you.

(21:32):
You know, all this work's coming out about people being
able to do that, like the telepathy tapes and and
and and those kids like that science or whatever that
they know when they're you know, child or mother is
going through something or even what they're thinking, and uh

(21:52):
and and they're they're doing this, you know, and placebo
test runs. You know. That's getting to that conclusion that
ESP and telepathy and all this stuff is real.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
It's not. It's more than just like a color too,
something that could be easily a coincidence. These were like
kids that are reading six digit numbers that their parents
are looking at and the kids are not They're in
separate rooms, separate buildings, blindfolded, all of that, and they're
calling out the numbers or reading a line in a
book that the parent is looking at. It's wild.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, you hear these stories of like from people. There
was a rapper I think I was watching an interview
with the other day and he was talking about meeting
a mysterious man at a club and was like, knew
what he was thinking. He got scared of the dude,

(22:48):
like because he didn't fit in. He was looking at
him kind of weird, and he thought to himself, like
I need to make sure I got my gun in
case the strange individual try something. And the dude looks
at him and says, I wouldn't I wouldn't do that
if I were you now you know you don't want
to do that or something, and like spoke to him
and told them that, and uh it shocked him. Like

(23:08):
you know people that can read your mind, you know,
And and I believe in that for sure, like these
so called aliens and the little Green men thing. You
know that there are people here that are that are
those beings if you will that, yeah, that are interstellar

(23:30):
like interstellar people that are like, you know, maybe hundreds
or if not thousands of years old. I don't know
if it works that way or if they're trained on
their spirituality. But there's there's people like I'm certain you
know that I've met that very similar instances, and they

(23:51):
work regular jobs, and they do regular things in their
planet and just all.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Over the you know, the earths that look like humans.
Maybe they're not human beings, but they take the form
of human beings, you know, like the angels did in
the Bible.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Yeah, until they shape shift they show their true form. Yeah,
you've heard those stories too. I mean, Billy Corgan from
Smashing Pumpkins has a crazy story of being in a
studio and somebody looked at him and showed their like
reptilian formed to them and freaked him out. Like these
people like have the ability to to do that, know,

(24:27):
whether they're you know, reptiles or light beings.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
You know, and even as humans human beings, I think
that we've been taught to forget who we really are,
and forget where we came from, and forget certain innate
abilities that were birthed into us when we were created.
And it's either been you know, like poisoned or filtered
out of us or brainwashed out of us over the decades.

(24:59):
But like especially women human women, when you're out, you
get like sensations and feelings about things get I don't
know if I would say every woman is an EmPATH,
but I would like to think every woman has the
ability to perceive things about people, Like you know, when

(25:22):
you've been out in public and you get someone walks
by and you get a feeling about them that there's
a dangerous person you should leave immediately, you know, those
kinds of things. I mean men have that ability too,
but I think it's heightened in women, just because we're
so attuned to people and to emotions. And it happens

(25:44):
to me a lot, like I can't explain it. I
get feelings about people, good and bad, and the bad ones.
We've been taught you're just judging them or stereotyping them
or you shouldn't have bad thoughts, and so you kind
of don't listen to it. But it's it's instinct, is
your gut. It's things that were born into us that

(26:04):
we've forgotten and they're trying to be reawakened. And I
think that may be a part of the telepathy tapes
and the telepathy thing, that these are abilities that we
probably had in the earliest iterations of our species that
have been you know, over the years with the fluoride
and toxins in the environment and the air not being

(26:26):
clean anymore, and people telling us we're crazy, that you
really can't do that you belong in an insane asylum,
and you know, it's just been filtered out of us.
And I think people are awakened back up to it.
That it's this reawakening process of things that we always had.

(26:47):
Like you said, all life is connected in nature. Even
when you're looking out at UFOs and things and you're
trying to see if you can see something, you know,
go out with an open mind. A lot of times
a bird will fly right across where there's a ufo
or a butterfly, or the wind will rustle the leaves
and the tree in a certain spot, and it causes

(27:08):
your eye to go to it. And it's like they're
trying to even help you look in the right direction
to have those encounters and to see.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yes, yes, whoever it is, you know, the creator of this.
It seems like just leaving breadcrumbs for people to look
in this direction or to stop looking in another direction,
or something like hot and cold. You know, yeah, hidden
hidden knowledge or hidden treasure is like you're getting cold,

(27:38):
You're getting cold, colder, colder, stop looking over there. And
when I think about politics, you know, especially what it's
been with the Trump and Biden administrations, that whole like,
here's the best people in our crest, the best two
people to run this country. Here they are, and we're
going to hear their quotes. Here's their quotes, this is
what they say, this is what they do when you

(28:00):
want to vote for And at this point, I'm like, hey,
I get the message. That's how I am, you know,
I get the message, like stop looking for these people
to lead you, because they can't even lead themselves. Like
they're going to lead you into a ditch kind of thing.
And I think it's super obvious. And I don't want
a gaslight by saying that, because people still believe in
the Great White Hope, Donald Trump and all these people,

(28:22):
and you know, you're free to believe in whatever you
want to believe. Were talking here about space aliens coming
from Zeta Retickulie, Like you can believe whatever you want.
And we still love you, and I hope you still
love me because I love everybody. But that's just the thing,
Like it's the divine comedy where you can look back
at it and it's like, man, we're trying to get

(28:44):
your attention with trying to show you that like this is,
you know, this system that we hope, we hope is
going to fix or something. It's broken and it's been
bro it's designed that way, like it's designed with the
flaw in it so that you can't put your full
weight upon it. Yeah, you put your full weight upon
it's going to break, and it's designed that way. It's paper,

(29:07):
it's it's something. It's a house that's not built on
a solid rock of foundation. And there's many things you
know that I think people have to find out the
hard way, you know, of investing and putting all their
time and effort and energy into and finding out like
it was an empty pursuit, you know. Yeah, and you

(29:28):
couldn't trust in that.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah, even now, like they want us to. I think
that the nuggets they're sprinkling about UFOs from the government,
you know, it's like they want you to trust them,
so they're giving you little nuggets here and there. But
I mean, you know, for the past seventy years, you know,
we've known things were happening, and they lied, flat out

(29:50):
lied about it.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
And but they're telling the truth now.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
But now they're telling the truth. Yeah, seventy years of
lies and now they're telling the truth. Come on. Definitely.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah. I always said this, like over the years that
like I'm going to whatever the government says, I'm going
to believe the opposite. So if I'm wrong in my
pursuits it say hey, these aren't space brothers and they're
really here, they're good guys and they're gonna lead us
to then then I'm gonna go panic mode. If they
come out with something like that, then I'm gonna panic.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
But if they say, hey they're a threat, we need
to kill them, you know, then I'm like, hold on,
Like these are I think you're lying? Whatever they say,
I believe you know, maybe like you said, you learn pattern.
You know what I'm saying, recognition. I mean, what is
synchronicity if it isn't pattern recognition of signs and symbols

(30:41):
that are just keep showing themselves to you over and
over and over, and if you don't get the message.
It's on you, It's not on you know, anybody else.
So I think that they're trying to get us to
take the hint and wake up from you know, our slumber.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yep. So I'm want to circle back to three I Atlas.
There's some differences between av Lobe and what he believes
about it and Tom Statler. He's NASA's lead scientists for
small bodies celestial bodies, and he's I guess, the spokesperson
from NASA on it. So Avi says he believes it's

(31:21):
not a natural object because it doesn't have a true
tale like a comet's tale. But this Tom says it
does have a true tale. So I don't know, I
don't know where the facts are coming from, or I
don't know. Maybe the tail is not big enough to
be considered a true tale. But the NASA's lead scientists

(31:41):
are saying that it the way it's moving and the
tail and everything about it makes them think it is natural.
But this other astrophysicist who's thirty to forty percent sure,
says that it's not. Probably. I mean, I don't think
they gave a percentage. But but what we do know
about it is the nucleus of this object is three

(32:06):
and a half miles wide, which is that's really big.
It's really big for an object that's mobile moving through space. Right,
it moves at one hundred and thirty thousand miles per hour,
and it will reach its closest approach to Earth on
December nineteenth at one hundred and sixty eight million miles.

(32:28):
I can't even like my brain can't even compute how
far that would be one hundred and sixty eight million miles.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
These numbers are astronomical, I think for a reason because like,
how do you even measure one hundred and thirty thousand
miles per hour that it's traveling?

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah, at.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
You know, some of that we talked about like some
of the things that we catch on film and how
fast are going that like you can't see it with
the naked eye, Yeah, you just can't. There's there's techniques
that you can do to see it. There's you know,
things that you can do that increase your h you know,

(33:10):
dilate your pupils to bring in more light and you'll
be able to see things. There's you know, probably different
you know substances and natural plant medicines that you could
take that allow you to see into different realms and
to see things that are out there traveling that are
not like physically out there, but they're just traveling too fast.
Some of it we've we've been able to see with

(33:32):
cell phone, like you're.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Able to tools equipment.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Slow down the footage, increase the frame rate to more
than the human I can can see. And if we
know that that's a thing, like why would you know,
how could you film something moving that fast? Like supposedly
they've got I don't even know if those you know,

(34:00):
the images that are circling around are even real.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, they look really strange. And AI is just getting
better at recreating things that are real, so it's harder
and harder to tell what's real and what's recreated.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
You know.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
I just wanted to encourage people, like, because that date's
coming and that's what's closest approach to Earth, Like you
can expect a lot of fear mongering in the media
and a lot of you know, what if their world's
going to end. Scientist says the world's going to end
on December nineteenth, And I always get so sad for
people because fear controls people in a real way. And

(34:43):
can rob you of the present, which is what we
were talking about earlier, like you don't want to be
so worried about these things that may never and probably
will never happen that it robs you of your present
moments of joy and presence with your family and your
spiritual life. And yeah, I just I feel like all
that's going to come again once again, now that you

(35:06):
know October twenty ninth has passed, the rapture has passed.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Yeah, it wasn't there another comment that we supposedly.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
We saw, Yeah, and it was called Lemon.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yeah comment Lemon.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
We couldn't see it. We went to see it at
Cheahawk was.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Foggy night, foggy. Yeah, and we seen one though, remember
that one.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
We went to see one Inmobile last year, I believe,
or maybe at the very beginning of this year. I
don't quite remember. But it was cool. It was cool
to see in the sky had a very long tail.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, and that just it just with the naked eye,
looked like it was just suspended, just like almost like
a star with a smoke tail kind of right, It's
pretty much what it looked like. And uh, just suspended
like it was. It didn't like it was moving. So
maybe that's how they were able to film it, like
the direction that it's headed. It's just there.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Maybe they know the distance between the constellations and then
they can do mathematical equations to see probably, but.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
You know, we've had some beautiful experiences with what looked
to be comments, meteors, you know, asteroids, All of these
things mean different things in the etymology of the language
and very you know, living organisms, angelic beings, they are

(36:30):
omen bringers. So much so that the astrologers would would
watch for these comments to see what type of comment
it was, because something was signaling to them what was
going to what was coming upon the earth, whether it
was famine, whether it was war, whether it was destruction.
That they could look and perceive the signs from the heavens,

(36:51):
from the celestial realm, that they were getting signals. And
there's books and books and books on this of the
ancient astronomers and stargazers, and which is what the prophets
were in the Bible, you know, and they had all
of this stuff. They had it. It was such a
thing that they were able to categorize it. Like if

(37:15):
you see a comment with this tale or they would
call it it's hair, this which something interesting. They would
say that the hairs of it would call that detail
like the main, like a like a horse's main. And
you think about the types of horses of the apocalypse
or whatever. You know, you get that imagery and it
seems foreign to us. But you know, when those books

(37:39):
were written, you know, and use that symbolic language as
in hair, you know, maybe it was talking about something else,
this this writer or this angel that brings this kind
of thing to the earth, you know, comment falling and
changing up the you know, the season for the earth,

(38:01):
for the inhabitants of it.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, and the scientific part of it too. You can
look up now all the different colors, and they say
that when we have meteor showers and things like that,
the meteors that streak through the atmosphere, the color of
the tail is what either what it's made of or
what that part of the atmosphere is most potent in
like what minerals. I think phosphorus is one, magnesium might

(38:26):
be one. But there's a chart you can look at,
and so whatever color metior you see has to do
with what elements are around it and make it up.
So that's pretty interesting too, that they've been able to
figure that out.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Which I forget which word it was right off, but
one of them it was either meteor I think it
was meteor, but it was or asteroid one of them
it was either metia or asteroid. Meant that it was
able to sustain life, like a piece of a of
a planet or a rock that is able to sustain life.

(39:07):
Forget which one it was and where I even got it.
It was the old either the etymology or Oxford English Dictionary,
one of the old quotes.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
And they'll try to look it up real quick.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yes, if you could pull that up, Aaron, But you know,
it's super interesting, and I don't you know, there's there's
there's a reason that this stuff is demonized by the
for the masses. But you know, those who are in

(39:46):
the clergy who are going to give you the narrative
and the meaning of what all this stuff means, they're
in the know. And for them to keep their power
and keep control, they have to take the power away
from you because you don't know how to govern yourself.
You don't know how to rule yourself. And you know,

(40:09):
many of you know that could be true to some degree,
there's many people who don't know how to govern, how
to rule. They don't know how to govern money. They
don't have to govern their diet. They don't know how
to govern in a relationship. So all the relationships ending tragedy,

(40:30):
all of their finances in tragedy. They don't know how
to govern. So like when we're what you need appears
and shows itself to you, and the government becomes that
for you, because people can't govern themselves. And so when
it's when they're talking about control or controlling a narrative
like and power and energy and all this, you know,

(40:53):
I think it it should be governed, and it should
be you know, even even the narrative. I think they're
doing a good job. I think they're doing a good
job because it's the way that whoever designed this whole matrix,
which we'll believe God or the gods, they knew what

(41:14):
they were doing when they designed it this way. They
knew that there's a lot of things that people can't
handle and aren't supposed to handle when it comes to
information and knowing. You know, if we all could look
up at this comment and that are all pointing at
the comment, and we can go to the books and
know that this is about fear or prosperity or whatever.
We would position ourselves and you know, from the influences

(41:38):
of those stars or of those planets, and we would
benefit from them, or we would be in fear and
hysteria when a certain one popped up. So for some
you know, people would people wouldn't go to work, Yeah,
people would, would wouldn't leave their homes. And there's just

(42:00):
there's things that the powers that be know, And so
when it comes to awakening, there's certain things that wake
people up, and there's certain information that people probably shouldn't have.
I know, we've you know, the people need to know,
and that's what we all say, and that's what people

(42:20):
go on mainstream and say, the people, the American people
need to know. No, you don't, No, you don't. You
don't need to know.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
There are some things we don't need to know for sure.
Like you know, when tragedies happen and there's video evidence
of it, there's some weird innate animal nature to be like, oh,
everybody's seen it. I want to see the video. No
you don't. You're not made to see tragedy like that
in front of your face. Like, but there's this weird

(42:47):
desire everyone else knows, everyone else seen it. I want
to see it. You don't need to know everything, like
you know enough. Yeah. I looked up media and asteroid
media or was. I couldn't find the life part of it.
But asteroid was a star like object, I believe, and

(43:10):
metior was a shooting star or high. It also means
the etymology of it high and lifted up. I thought
that was kind of cool. But yeah, we don't need
to know everything. Yeah, sometimes we what is the the scripture?
Is it a scripture? Much knowledge comes much suffering? Is

(43:35):
suffering heartache? Yeah? So I mean you may you may
feel like you need to know and if you have
that passion and just keep pursuing it, but know that
with much knowledge comes much heartache and and.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Like all is vanity and it becomes vexation of spirit.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
It does.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Yeah, it can be, you know, And so you know,
and I think I think you know those who are
governing and leading again I saw, I say, they're doing
a good job of blanketing and covering the sky. So
you don't know, like you know, like what if they're

(44:16):
you know, there's what if you could see the entities
and the energies and the aliens and the invisible creatures
that are here like attacking you or leeching off your
energy every day all day, Like I get the messages
in my inbox, so I already know what happens to people.
And I've been through it, so I know what happens

(44:36):
to me going through stuff. You know, when like before
you know, finding out truth or reality and the matrix
and the way things work. And you know, they talk
about this idea of the matrix, and you know which
pill do you want? Everybody wants to pill that wakes
you up? Will you take the red pill? Or will
you take the blue pill? And I forget which one?
What is it? The blue pill wakes you up and

(44:59):
you'll be able to see the reality of the matrix
in the way things work. But like he says, be
careful because you can't go back, you can't undo it.
You want to go back to the nine to five,
you want to go back to living a regular life
and take the other pill, because once you have tasted
of this one, it's impossible for you to go back.
You can't. And so I'm of the opinion now of like,

(45:21):
hold on, how about it like we shouldn't be taking
pills from strangers to begin with, Who is this guy?
You know what I'm saying, Like the stranger showing up
trying to give you pills? And which what pill you want? Like,
don't take either one, slap them in, don't take don't
do drugs. People like don't You don't have to take
there is another option, you know. And because you can't,

(45:44):
you can't unsee things. You can't unsee the videos and
all of the knowledge, and because what with much knowledge
comes much heartache. It's all vexation of spirit. So there's
a piece of me in the middle. It is like
the devil's advocate, you know. It's like, hey, because I

(46:05):
want to see it. I want to quit blocking out
these anomalies and let us see It's like, you really
want to see the anomaly, you really want to see
the boogeyman. Like there's a reason you can't see them,
you know, there's a reason you can't, you know, see
it with the naked eye. You want to be able
to perceive the stuff we see on camera with the
naked probably not. I remember the first stuff I started
catching on camera was just insane, you know, and I'm like,

(46:29):
I don't know if I'm supposed to, and I haven't
released much of anything.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
People are always asking.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
I talk about stuff, But the interesting thing is that
we talk about it, but other people are capturing similar
things on camera that they're starting to release, so that
you know, a lot of stuff are already out there,
but some things are like hold on, like what's going on?
Like these large entities like approaching earth and devouring one another,

(46:57):
and it's like, what's going on out there? For real?

Speaker 2 (47:00):
It was really fun at our retreat in California when uh,
you kind of did a brief It was pretty brief
cell phone tutorial of how people can film things in
the sky and it was even during the day. Yeah,
and how many people were able to do it and
get things and their minds were blown and they were
like Trus Sika, what is this?

Speaker 1 (47:19):
What is this?

Speaker 2 (47:20):
What's happening on? Just like what is it? I don't know.
That's for you to determine and decide, you know, like
I can help you capture it, but how it makes
you feel and what you think it is is up
to you really, But it's interesting like how quickly you
can do like a brief tutorial of how to use
your phone, and people are catching things that are blowing

(47:40):
their minds.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, and it's interesting too to do you know,
to look at the science behind it. Is it from
different you know, the different people see different things at
the same time, you know, from a different region or whatever,
like are they seeing different activity in the atmosphere?

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Yeah? Is it? Is it more activity or is it
just less light pollution like those kinds of things.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Yeah, but you know, you have the interest in the intrigue.
But you know, like some you gotta you have to.
You have to be okay with not knowing too, because
it's so much that we don't know. Because once you

(48:25):
get to a place where like you're you know it all,
or you can't listen to information that's that that's against
what you believe, or from a religion or from a
person that doesn't believe like you or believes this, you know,

(48:46):
other theories, or it makes you shut down to not
be able to receive from them, and so to to
just to remain open or to what you know, hold
all things loosely if you will.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
I think that's it's the true meaning of detachment. Like
a lot of not religions, spiritual circles, you know, talk
a lot about unhealthy attachment and that you shouldn't have
unhealthy attachments, you should stay detached, And I think it's
more of that, like being able to be okay with
not knowing and be okay with the middle ground, be

(49:22):
okay with the journey, because I mean, even once you
find out this thing that you want to know so badly,
there's going to be a next thing that you want
to know so badly. It's going to be a journey
to get to that thing. So to be able to
be present and enjoy the journey to get there, I
think is the true meaning of not being unhealthily attached
to something, to an outcome or that kind of thing.

(49:47):
For a long time, it was really hard for me
to be in that place of being present, not knowing,
not having a task done. Like if I had a
task to do, I just wanted to do it as
fast as I possibly could, fast and efficient. But to
be present during the task and to do it slowly,
there's a different kind of gift in that, different kind

(50:07):
of enjoyment in it. So we're talking about words and
etymology and that kind of stuff. I thought this was
a little interesting. I looked up Atlas. We've all seen
the image of like the statues of the bearded man
holding the world up on his shoulders, and that's who
we know is Atlas. Right from mythology. Well, the story

(50:29):
of Atlas is there was a war between the gods
the Titans, who are the twelve children of Gaya and Urinus.
Gaya's Earth, Uranus is Sky. So the twelve original children
of Earth and Sky are the Titans, and Atlas is
one of the Titans. Then their next generation were the

(50:51):
Olympian gods who ruled from Mount Olympus, and there was
this war for ten years called the Titan Machi. They
were fighting who's going to be able to control the cosmos,
the old gods or the new gods. Well, after ten years,
the new gods won and Atlas was punished by being

(51:16):
sentenced to hold up the heavens in the sky on
his shoulders for all of eternity, and the rest of
the old gods were doomed to the underworld, to Tartarus
for eternity. So that story, I thought it was interesting
that this object is coming named Atlas, that you know,

(51:38):
I mean the world's changing, so much and people who
are in power that kind of stuff. It does seem
to be a war back and forth. And I don't know.
I just thought it was an interesting story to share
about the name Atlas and what he does and what
he was expected to do. What he is expected to.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Do, carried the world on his shoulders.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Yeah, it originally was just the sky and the heavens,
and then over time, I could think the mythology morphs
to include the whole world.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Yeah, you see a lot of the that mythology and
stuff in the Bible too. I think it ties in
Like they said, that's just Greek mythology, Like what about
Biblical mythology? What about the Biblical stories? Right?

Speaker 2 (52:23):
And in that.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Universe, right, I think they're all telling the same story,
you know, and just the wording and the imagery has
continued to change. And so that's why every now and
then they slip it in there. They slip it in
there with certain words or the names of people that
that pop up and stuff like that. So you know,
so that that there's these events that seem to have

(52:48):
happened in different regions of the of the earth, have
recorded them in different languages with different different names talked
about this order of you know, out with the old
and in with the new, and it obviously every time

(53:09):
it's it's it's never been good, you know. I don't know,
it's always come with a sword.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
I think when we look at the people we admire
most as far as civilizations and things like that, there
was an honoring of the old and honoring of the
ancestors and a sharing of that knowledge and respect and
you know, honoring the elders and instead of just being

(53:39):
like kind of how our culture has gotten to be,
it's just like out with the old, in with the new,
go to the nursing home. You're done for. Like in
the native cultures, they really honored their elders for their wisdom,
and I don't know, it's definitely been a shift away
from that. I think we should probably try to get
back to that a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Yep, you mentioned our retreat right, Well, we mentioned the retreat,
but you have I don't know when this is going
to be up, but you have an upcoming forest bathing
sound healing event here in Alabama next weekend.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Yeah, so it's going to be a week from tomorrow.
It'll be on November fifteenth, which is a Saturday. I
don't know when this episode will air, but it'll probably be,
you know, several days out from when it comes up.
But we're going to be going into the forest in
Spanish Fort, Alabama. We're going to do some guided hiking,

(54:41):
some forest bathing, which is just simply walking through the
forest and allowing the essence of the forest to do
what it does best to our bodies. It absorbs our
exhale and gives us fresh oxygen to inhale. The trees
release chemicals called fitonicides that increase the body's immune system

(55:03):
and ability to create natural killer cells, which are the
tumor and cancer killing cells in the body. It's just
a very healing thing and it's so basic, like we
should you know, we should know, like when somebody's mad,
you tell them take a hike. I mean, it's a
natural thing to get back to to just go take
a walk through the forest and let the forest do

(55:23):
what it does. And so we're gonna go honor the trees,
and then at the end of the evening, after some
fun activities, we're gonna have a little fire and a
sound bath so that we can give back to the
forest and maybe give some healing frequency to the people
and the land. And if anybody is interested in coming,
you can find the event on Facebook on my social

(55:44):
media page and tickets are available by Venmo.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Yeah, so if you're interested in that, come on out.
We got and we get a lot of messages from
people in Alabama, so you know there are people locally
and are people traveling to be there too, which is
interesting because it was kind of like a little small
thing you wanted to do, but you put the word
out and people are like jumping on it and coming out,
So traveling across the country, so it's really cool too.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Yeah, and campings included in the ticket price, so it's
a camping experience. They're at a private campground in the
state park. It's gonna be fun.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Thank Yeah. And for those of you who want to
support our work or be a part of our membership platform,
you can sign up on Patreon. You can go to
www dot patreon dot com, backslash Trusika and you can
get access there of our guided meditations. You can get that.
All of them are available with the membership. We do

(56:41):
weekly sessions, weekly hangouts, pretty much what we're doing right now,
but with a community like whatever they want to talk about. Usually,
you know, we just roll off of each other and
just just hang out. So we do that on Thursday
nights and Sunday Rising sessions, and they've been really good
and been in many seas. Where we don't put a
lot of stuff out publicly, whether it's a podcast or

(57:03):
not creating videos and stuff or talking about this stuff,
which is stuff we're really into, we just do it
behind the scenes with our community, and you know, we
hang out with them and roll theories and ideas off
of them versus coming on the podcasts and doing it.
So sometimes we got to like jolt ourselves and make
ourselves do something for the general public because we've got

(57:23):
a cool like community or what feels just like a
friend group of people who like consistently twice a week
hang out with us and we roll ideas. Hey have
you heard about this? Have you seen that? You've read
this book? Hey? What book's dad? And it's just really
fun to finally like have your tribe of people that
you can connect with that don't judge you and you

(57:45):
can talk about anything with, you can bring up anything with.
So we do that with our community calls and on
our retreats, and so we'll probably have some more dates
where we're talking about the upcoming retreats. But if you
aren't interested in getting more behind the scenes stuff, private
access of videos, documentaries, all that stuff, go check out
the Patreon again patreon dot com backslash truth Seeker, or

(58:10):
you can simply go to Seer dot school as well
and get access to the app that way.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Yeah, and thank you guys for the support and the
love and giving us a little time off. We need
some breathing room and it's been very very good for us.
And but we're so happy to be back in doing
podcasts again. We've missed it, yep.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
And with that we're gonna say peace and shalon. We
love you guys.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
We'll do it again, all right, see you soon.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Peace, peace later,