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November 24, 2024 • 29 mins
EP 91 Fall to Winter Framework
Join hosts Amy Christensen and Brian Bowen on the 'All Things Good For You' podcast as they explore the transition from fall to winter in the context of personal development, health, and wellness. Reflecting on the themes of letting go and preparing for the winter season, they delve into the significance of seasonal changes according to ancient traditions, particularly the five-element framework of Chinese medicine. Discover how to break down goals into manageable chunks, create intentional transitions, and set the stage for a transformative new year. Perfect for anyone looking to harness the natural rhythms of the seasons to enhance their health and personal growth.

Chapters
00:00 Letting Go and Embracing the New Year
00:15 Welcome to All Things Good for You
02:04 Seasonal Transitions and Reflections
12:53 Understanding the Five Elements Framework
26:13 Practical Applications and Future Topics
26:57 Conclusion and Upcoming Episodes


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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Letting go of things that aren't going to give us value.
And it's a great time because this winner goes into
the new year. Right, let's start talking about those things. Now,
what do we not want to carry forward?

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hey, friends, thank you for listening to the All Things
Good for You Podcast. Join us as we explore ancient traditions,
modern tools and practices in the world of health, wellness,
and personal development. I'm Amy Christensen, your host and your
curated mind coach.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
And I'm your co host, Brian Bowen, founder of Integrative Health, Inc.
And Better Human Company High Performance Coaching. Are you ready
to take control of your life and start feeling enthusiastic, empowered,
and limitless each and every day for a life well lived?
Let your curiosity flow with all.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Things good for you.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Hey, hey, hey, good morning, Good morning. How are you Amy?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
I am great.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
I am too.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
I'm concerned about you, but no, you're singing, so you
must be fine.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
I've been drinking a lot of coffee and because it's
good for you, because this is all Things good for you,
So there's really good things and coffee for you. We
will talk about that. Now. It's Tuesday morning, and it's
weird doing this on a Tuesday. But I'm having fun
with I think it's good. Let's do this. What can happen?

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Baby, I think it's wonderful. I just wrapped up a
pretty big event and I was going full steam ahead,
and so I took an actual day off yesterday, and
a real day off. Normally my days off are like
I'll sleep until six thirty and I'll just hang out

(01:50):
for a couple hours. No, I took the entire day off,
forced myself to just do almost nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
It was congratulations.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
So I woke up at four thirty this morning raring
to go. Let's do that.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
So proud of you, so proud of you. I know
we're jumping into a short today for those of you listening,
you are listening to all things good for you, and
you get us for about thirty minutes today, and so
it we'll keep it nice, simple and sweet to you
for you. And we've been previously talking about we've been
doing some stuff around a seasonal model, seasonal framework, and

(02:23):
we've been in the past I don't know how many
episodes five or six or something like that, have been
talking about fall and what that means and the metal
element and letting go and value and all kinds of
different mindset stuff around those pieces, and we are moving
into a winter element, and so it got us thinking

(02:45):
about we just don't want to jump from one to
the other without really talking about the importance of taking
the time and thinking about and preparing for transition and
what that really looks like, because we are often just
are just going and we don't have enough moments to
stop and think about where we're at breaking things up

(03:08):
into smaller pieces, What does transition mean? What are we
transitioning to? And so that's what we're going to chit
chat about a little bit.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, it's winter.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Almost, although it feels very winter.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I think we are officially in winter.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
And when when summer with winter solstice? When is winter Solstice?

Speaker 2 (03:27):
December twenty first? But isn't that but just like a
high point, I don't it's winter because it's ski season
all right, the ski resorts are open, and we got
three feet of snow the week before or last early
end of last week, and I'm going to just say
it's winter, right of letting go?

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Okay, Yeah, I just feel like winter is part of
it really feels because the day so short, it's dark
so early, so to me that feels that triggers my
winter feeling.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yes, but that is December twenty first, Yes.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
So I do believe December January February is where your marketing.
Those are bigger, those winters. So we're transitioning regardless from
this fall metal elements, thinking about things of value and
being able to start really letting go of things that
don't have value for us, that are draining us right,
whether it's those relationships or job stuff for activities or

(04:26):
thought processes, behaviors, actions, all of those things and shedding
all that burden, shedding that weight and really working through
those processes. And now we have to transition and start
to shift into this other space that we're not going
to talk too much about today. But I guess amy

(04:47):
I was reading at my Lett's book, one of his books,
and he was talking about how time of this is,
this construct of this twenty four hour cycle, and what
he does is he likes to think about bending time
by he makes three days in one day, so he
breaks his day up. I can't remember his time from.

(05:08):
If it's six to noon is day one, Noon to
six pm is day two, six pm to midnight is
day three, and so it helps him like what am
I doing on day one? What do I need to
get done day one? What do I need to get
done day two? So he is able to get more
things done. So it just really helped trigger something for

(05:30):
me as we're talking about this seasonal stuff on how
we can make whatever we want to make. We can
come up with this idea, whatever ideas we want and
be creative of what transition looks like. And for the
seasonal model. I just think it's cool because it's like, hey,
instead of just everything being so lenient and we're always

(05:52):
rolling with it and finding opportunities to pivot, finding opportunities
to reflect, finding opportunities to set intention for next things, Like,
it's just such a great thing to do. It's okay,
we've been doing this for the last three months. It's
time to transition into introspective mode. It's time to transition
into looking for purpose, It's time to transition into whatever

(06:15):
those things we're going to talk about. So it's just
a cool like stop because it just I don't know,
I just feel it feels right, just feels so right.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
I'm not sure I get what I'll have to read
ed myletts. I have the one thing book from him,
but I don't remember that part being in there, but
I pran of probably fell asleep a few times, not
that the book was boring. I just tend to fall
asleep when I read now, but that is.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
The book and that was in there. But then again,
just it just triggered like, hey, we're you can do
that with anything.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
I'm bending. I like the idea of time bending because,
like I'd mentioned in the previous podcast, like for we
get into these regimen and these ideas of how things
should work. I was specifically talking about my ausie. My
dog is very I'm demanding, and he has a schedule
and once he starts getting something on a regular basis,

(07:05):
he expects it to be that way all the time.
And I've had to have talk with him about, hey,
you're still getting an hour and a half of time out.
It just might be crunched in here or it's spread
out like this. But I had to take my mind
and go, no, we're doing it a little different, but
you're still getting it in. How many of us like
stop at six o'clock because it's six o'clock and we've
got to go and do a B and C And

(07:27):
now it's this time or it's that time. I remember,
I would use every moment until I went to sleep.
I don't know if that's what you're talking about, but
the time bending of what are we expecting to do
with our day and how we're breaking ourselves up? Was
that the point of what you were talking about.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
It's part of the point. Yeah, And I'm just again,
I was just thinking about that as an example. It's
not he's doing that with time, but we can do
that with everything. So for instance, like a goal, so
let's say, oh, it's my goal to complete this, so
you just have it as one big thing. This is
my goal to completely What if you broke that goal
up into three different goals? So my goal is to

(08:04):
get started on this project. My goal is to put
the time, energy and effort into the meat and the
bones of the project. That's goal number two, and goal
number three is completion of the project. So instead of
one big goal, you have three goals in that one goal.
So then goal one is to get started. Hell, we
got started on this. Congratulate yourself. That builds that memory

(08:27):
muscle of excelling, that of completing, of moving forward. And
then I start. I put two hours in on this
goal today. That's goal number two. Great, I completed that.
Good for me, like I'm building it and it's creating
this momentum. And then goal number three is, oh my god,
we finished it today, hey, And so you completed three
goals instead of one goal, just like you had three

(08:47):
days instead of one day, and now instead of just
the year twenty twenty four. It's almost if you think
about spring, summer, fall, and winter, in each one of
those transitioned in to a deeper meaningful and intention of
what those are about. So in each instead of just

(09:10):
having oh, I did all this, it's oh, yeah, this
last three months, this is what I've been working on
with great intention. I've been working on these things to
help build here. And then before that these three months
I did this, and before that these three months, I
did this, And so it's just this more. It's breaking
it down into chunks to help hone in on intention,
to help hone in on priorities and all those layers

(09:35):
that help us evolve instead of just getting stuck in
this kind of leanear this path, and all of a
sudden the whole year's gone by just feels like there
can be so much more richness in this And again
we're now even just thinking about moving from metal to Winter.
When I was contemplating on the things that we're going

(09:56):
to be discussing in the winter and what that means,
I'm like, oh, like just talking about it and just
thinking about it, I'm starting to transition my mindset. I'm
starting to transition from Okay, I can close start closing
this down now? Do I feel complete? This is my
last chance to work on any of those little peat
not really last years, but in my mind this is

(10:18):
my Yeah, this is my chance to close any chapters
I need. Did I really feel like I've addressed everything
I needed to let go of? Do I really see
all the clarity of things I have value with or
that I don't want to move forward with? Like where
am I at with this process? Do I feel like
I'm ready to close that down? As I'm moving through
this transition to setting the stage for these next things

(10:40):
and start getting some mental preparedness and then game planning,
because part of as what we've talked about with so
much things even with when we're talking about KPI, as
part of our struggles sometimes is not having the proper plan,
strategy and execution, so the transition time start teeing us
up for that planning period so that when we move
into the winter, we can really have strategy and execution

(11:03):
for what that really means to get the most out
of it. So just that I just went on a hole.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
For it's great. Well, I think like just wrapping up
from we're about to come into Thanksgiving and the transition
phase from fall to winter, from one year to the
next year. A lot of people looking at their goals
and from what I'm hearing you say, like just breaking

(11:32):
that time, breaking it up into smaller chunks, not just
with a goal, but your year. And to me, what
I'm hearing is that there's the advantage of doing that
is a little bit of dopamine hits because you completed
this section and then you completed this section and look

(11:54):
what you've learned, and you were we're moving from one
element to another element. Right, how does that come into
or is there a space within Chinese medicine like we're
going from what November fall was metal winter season is

(12:15):
what water?

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Hello, Brian, Sorry I forgot I put myself on mute
because I still have a lingering cough from my cold.
So I just have to cough my head off for
a second and then put my mute back on it. Well, yeah,
so that's okay. Edit it. People love this stuff and
a great thing about all the podcasts now, and I
remember it was like so intense. I used to have
like home in my room and like all this stuff

(12:41):
to make it so perfect, and the rawness and realness
of it is really just beautiful, and I think it
does not have to have perfection anyway. So yeah, yes,
you're correct on that. And then spring is the wood element,
so water again, we are going to be going into
an introspective and really gaining clarity and we'll talk a
lot more about it, but it's about resources and will

(13:04):
power and purpose and introspection and we're building and we're
storing and we're gathering, and then we're getting ready to
explode into spring with all that energy and growth. And
then from spring you go into the summer into the
earth element. And yeah, for those of you who are
like what the hell is he talking about right now,
you have to go back and listen to like podcasts

(13:24):
episode one through eighty nine.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Get started on those right away, don't. Yeah, just sew
and give us some feedback. Yeah, so what we have
done and I don't even know if we've ever even
said this, but a while back we decided that we
recognize that we could approach our podcast since it is
a combination of Western and Eastern, we could actually approach
it by combining them. And so we take the file

(13:53):
is it five elementals of the elements that work with
the different parts of the seasons, and then how does
that how does that flow into habit planning and awareness
and just some of the applicable thought processes and actions
we can take with our daily life and what we're

(14:14):
interested in. And it's really it's been fun to see
how these elements actually do combine with the the seasons
and I so we're going to move from metal, which
we've been doing Metal A metal was letting go. It's
long and large, intelligent tests and things that come up

(14:37):
around that is Yang. It's the Yang yin.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Oh my god, Amy, Amy. If you're from like the
Midwest and just got a tattoo, you probably think it's the.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
I was just eating in my American accent. It is young.
I'm sorry, Please forgive me all the Chinese themselves it wrong.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
Okay, I'm going to make a bold statement and say
that the five element I call it a framework, the
five element model, because there's even multi a couple of
models within that model called the co cycle, in the
Shin cycle.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
I'm going to make a bold statement to say that
is one of the original and still is a superior
framework in the world of personal development.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
What is say it again? Because I was still at
the fact that I embarrassed myself by saying the reading
instead of thinking.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
The five element, the five elements that we're talking about
is the original, best, still ridiculously amazing applicable framework for
personal development.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
And say a very fast review.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
And the biggest reason I say that is one is
we talk about seasons, but picture there's five boxes, and
yes they're labeled metal, water, element, would fire, and earth.
But each of those categories are to think about those
containers that hold everything in life, every emotion, every thought,

(16:24):
every action, every season, every color, every organ, all this stuff,
and there's this interplay between all of them, and they
all have to move effortlessly for wu waeh for effortless movement,
for continuous flows, so things aren't stagnant, and so it
helps us identify areas of stagnation, right, so we can.

(16:46):
If we want to talk about it from a psychological perspective, great,
it fits. It fits every one of those categories. There's
something in there for every psychological aspect. If you want
to talk about it from a spiritual aspect, great, there's
something in there for every spiritual aspect. If you want
to talk about it from an organ aspect, great, there's
something in there for every organ system from that aspect.

(17:06):
If you want to talk about it from census, great,
there's something in there for every sense. So it doesn't
matter what we're talking about. It's this freaking ridiculous model
that literally embodies everything, and within it there's a couple
of different systems, theories or frameworks as well, a shin
cycle and a co cycle, And so it's just cool

(17:27):
because when you start to understand it, you can really
use it as a tool for a personal development. You
can use it as a tool to help make decisions
and so forth. Here we're using it as a tool
to help build a framework, and we're breaking it in
chunks for the seasons just to create this flow of

(17:49):
personal development mindset of personal development. But that personal development
is being fed through these conversations through this kind of
awareness of what's happening during these seasons. So some of
the pieces we talk about are going to be mindset pieces.
Some of it's going to be more Western or more
Western scientific based principles integrated with those. Sometimes we might

(18:14):
bring in a service, so we can still bring in
and talk about all the things good for you, but
in this framework that allows for some continuity and this
pull through all of these things. And you and I
both maybe have a little ADHD, so it really helps
just keep us wordingized too.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
That's going to say, I think we just started because
we needed help, like narrowing down what the heck we
were going to talk about. And speaking of letting go,
we're going to let go of the fact that pronunciation
is really important. But uh, well, yawn yet because you
let me go back because we picked we we were
focused on metal and letting go because you had made

(18:56):
the you had told me like fall it has to
do with yan yin balance where some of them are
yin yan and some of them are yin yin, and
some of them are yngyng.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Right, yeah, yeah, So like we're moving into winter, which
is yin within yin it gets complicated. There's it's the
dynamic balance of life, and we don't need to confuse everybody.
But yeah, we're moving into we're moving from yong. Right
now we're young yin, and now we're moving into yin yin,

(19:27):
and then spring will be yanyong, and then summer will
be young and then we'll be moving back into young end.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
And the yong yen is just an energy like which
one's dominant or which one.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, so think about the winter is a great way.
So think about yong as this expansive warming, transforming energy,
and yin is a condensing, contracting, cooling kind of energy.
So think about winter. And for some people you might
really associate this is that things naturally contract in winter,

(20:06):
and so you might say, oh, only about winters. I
never see my neighbors anymore. Everybody's contracting into their own space.
It's not they're not like out on the front porch
every night and there's just this natural contraction, or you're
sleepier and going to bed earlier, or you're whatever it is.
Everybody can relate to that in their own way, where
there's definitely this contraction of energy. And even think about

(20:29):
the animals, they go from building and eating so much
and storing energy, and then they start to go into
their little nap nap modes and they don't eat as
much and there's not as much activity in the wildlife
and stuff. So everything's this contracting energy and sometimes we
see that financially or business wise or whatever too, and
a how do we embrace that? What do we do

(20:50):
with that during the winter. There's very specific things we'll
be talking about and what the intention can be with
this mindset shifting into this space. But then also so
it's hey, like we just had a provider phone call
last week where I talked about, Hey, we're getting ready
to move into a contracting phase of winter, so what
can we do. How can we throw some young type

(21:13):
things in there to pull through some of that stagnation
of slowness or of people contracting. So it helps me,
it can help you make decisions based off of that
experiential stuff that you feel with the elements. And so
the great things is back in the day, people utilize
the observation of nature to help guide their lives and

(21:35):
then make decisions. And they were big decisions back then,
and now with modern age and comfort of ac and
heaters and gortex' boots and all these things. We can
circumvent some of those natural things that had to happen
and decisions that had to be made based off of

(21:55):
just things that people had in their life at the time.
But psychologically and physiologically still the impact is there and
we feel it, like how many times, like I'm going
right now from craving smoothies every day which are cooling
to lattes, or like we start breaking out our soups
and our stews versus eating sous Like I crave sushi

(22:18):
more in the summer than I do in the winter.
So it's crazy how like we naturally do this, but
we forget to stop and think about why. And that's
very much the same in the same principles of the
nature is still nature, and it's still going to be there,
and we can do things to certainly encounter the impacts
of it. But instead, let's like think about what does

(22:40):
that really mean and taking a step further instead of
craving soups and stews, what does that mean? That means
I'm building my reservoir, right, I'm building this energy and
I'm storing. But what am I going to do with that,
and then as I'm cultivating that and building that energy
in the winter time, I'm going into contemplation and I'm

(23:02):
going into this contracting things like we should be meditating
like a lot more. We're going to talk about that
in the winter months. This is a great time for
things of that nature. And then going into spring, all
that energy, all that insight, all of that stuff that
we stored up is going to freaking explode and blossom.
So that's we're transitioning from we're letting go of bullshit.

(23:24):
We're letting go of old stuff. We're letting go of
things that aren't going to give us value. And it's
a great time because this winner goes into the new year, right,
So let's start letting go of it now instead of
the week before January one. Oh, I'm going to make
my resolutions. I'm going to stop doing this, and A
stop doing no. Let's start talking about those things. Now.
What do we not want to carry forward? Because then

(23:45):
the last couple months before the new year, you're actually
putting intention and building that reservoir now, so you have
the strength, deserve the willpower to carry that forward into
the new year. Come out in the spring a whole
new fricking transformed superpower of a human being.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
That's why we've been talking about this whole way of
like the just the transitional process. If you think about
in the fall, what you do and you clear off
like the falling leads, you're letting things go, the trees
are letting go. You're going to clear that out, and
you're preparing for a hibernation process. You're preparing for even
your plants and nature to go into a hibernation and

(24:30):
a regenerating building phase. And so that's basically where we're going.
And with the yon yin and the yin and then
the yin yon, and then it makes sense if you
understand what the what that is in implying the yin
yon and the balance of the within and the growth

(24:51):
and the expansion.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
We're going into our little cocoon, our little cry Did
I say that, Crystalis We're going into our little king
kin so we can burst out in the spring with
our beautiful, amazing monarch butterfly wings. And yeah, so what

(25:13):
are we going to do.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
We're going to try to plan that with some intention.
And I appreciate how the Chinese medicine goes along with
just the natural aspect of our world and our seasons,
and honestly with the way we actually work in our
day to day life. No matter what focus or religion

(25:35):
or belief philosophies you have, it's a natural flow. And
I think when we get into understanding these rhythms and
the cycles that we have, the better we will manage
our life and our productivity and our connection by being
aware of those things. So I look forward to continuing

(25:55):
to let go for the next few weeks and moving
into our water and the winter topics that we're going
to get into, and just how we can be productive
and healthy and do lots of support and building for
the seeds that we're planting that are sleeping through the winter.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Oh amys and sure a big nutrition nutritionalist, fan of
nutrition and things like that, maybe you could talk to
us about some specific foods yeah for winter that could
really help help us as well and tie that together.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Absolutely bring in some food topics.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
I would love to.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
We're going to do a little bit more of that
going forward into the new year. Anyways, that's a perfect
way to bump it up. Let's chat about feeding and
fueling yourself with nutrition.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Do I have do you have more to say? Do
I have more to say? We're going to end early.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Has it been thirty We're going to end on time
and correctly right, we said we're going to do a
short I guess it's short. It's a build up for
what's coming.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yes, yes, yes, And now we do have we are
going to pepper some other things. And we do have
a guest coming up that is going to be talking
about functional medicine and chiropractic. So we're still going to
pepper these other things in.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
So I'm excited about a couple of the guests we have.
We're going to talk about some creativity and some writing,
just creativity, but this person's coming on as an author
and it's been self publishing and just curious about how
that plays into it. And then yeah, we're going to
have Tiffany, our chiropractor, come in and talk about the
body's expression and somatic responses to something. So okay, some

(27:34):
exciting stuff coming.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Up we do, so stay tuned. All right. For those
of you who have not heard all the podcasts, I
highly suggest you go back and listen to every one
of them. That's a good goal before the end of
the year and thank you for thank you for jumping
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(27:59):
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(28:20):
You is supporting that, and we support you.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
And thank you Amy, thank you Brian. So good to
be back together with you. And here's here's the winters,
here's the winter. All right, thank you, have a good day.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Bye bye.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
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