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Speaker 1 (00:22):
What great mercy and peace be multiplied to you from God,
our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Welllcome, beautiful people
of God.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I started to sing a song, y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
No, i'm'na sing a song, right, But we wanna welcome
everybody tonight to the Apostolic Woman's the Courageous Apostolic Women's Broadcast.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Uh. This is our Tuesday Night Live and.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
We welcome you to another powerful addition of the Courageous
Apostolic Women's Broadcast. I'm your hosts tonight, Apostle doctor Frank Stubbs,
and I am beyond excited tonight to have you join
us for another impactful night of revelation station Hollylujah and inspiration.
And so all month long we are celebrating courageous Apostolic women,
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those who have accepted the call of God and are
walking boldly in their assignments. And tonight is no different.
These are women who have defied limitations, Yes they have.
They have stood firm and are advancing the Kingdom of God.
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With power and purposes.
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So I'm excited tonight because we are continuing our series
and we have a powerful, great woman of God that
is going to join us that's here already in the
studio joining us tonight.
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And our theme on tonight.
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Is building legacy Apostolic women who multiply, and so tonight
we are going to be talking about women who don't
just lead, but they multiply, right, women who are raising
up others. They're not thinking about just themselves, right, but
raising up others, pouring into the next generation, and leaving.
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A legacy that will outlive their name.
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And so it just gives me such joy and honor
to be able to welcome.
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My special guests on tonight.
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She is a woman of vision, a woman of grace,
a woman of generational impact. I'm excited that tonight we
have Apostle Michelle Green guests.
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Who's gonna be with us.
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Let me read to you a.
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Little bit about her off of her bio before we
bring her on screen.
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Okay, because she is a.
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Mighty woman of God, and I want you to know
who is gonna be sitting in your presence on tonight
as you are receiving. So I want to take a
minute before I creately start reading her bio. I want
you to tag somebody, call somebody, tell another courageous Apostolic
woman that is sitting around doing nothing tonight tell her
she gotta get on and get on this broadcast on tonight.
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But Apostle Michelle Guests is a wife and mother, an author,
and a transitional coach that has a unique journey.
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What initially seemed.
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Like situations of hopelessness and despair due to years of
abuse have over the years transformed her into.
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A woman of the woman of God.
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She is today currently Apostle Michelle service as the lead
prophet at the Center of Center for Manifestation.
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I know how to say the church name breaks the Lord.
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Center for Manifestation.
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It is staff on manifestations worldwide under the leadership of
Apostle doctor Mark T.
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Jones.
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She is founder of Reviving the Stone, Apostolic and Prophetic
Company of Profits. She has been commissioned to raise and
mobilize profits and prophetic people through purification, reformation, and revival
for the end times. She aims to uncover gifts and
bring life to areas that seem dead, a testament to
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her spiritual authority and leadership.
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I am so excited. Can you help me? Please, please,
please please please.
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Welcome this great woman of God. Apostle Michelle Guests on tonight. Yes, yes,
Holly Lujah, we are so happy to have you tonight.
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Can you please just greet.
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Us on tonight and just say a little something about yourself.
I know we read your bio, but just say a
little something about yourself if you would like to, and
then we're gonna jump right in.
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Good evening everyone, and of course, upon thank you so
much for this invitation. I am simply here because of
God's grace. I want to say that I want to
make sure that I communicate that it's clearly the grace
of God that I am still here.
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I am still in my sound mind.
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I am still able to walk out God's plan for
my life. And I desire that anyone who is on
any level of giving up, throwing in the town in
a grave, that I'm able to speak with life unto
them and see them the rest rag and be set
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and established into their kingdom purpose. I'm honored to be here,
and I do believe that God is get ready to
do something supernatural among us tonight, and I'm here for it.
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Glory, Glory.
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We cannot wait, We cannot wait, and so we're so excited.
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And people are coming in.
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Someone watching and.
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Haven't said anything yet, but we know that this can
turn into a very lively conversation, and so we're looking
forward to all that the Lord is gonna say on
tonight through you, and so we want you to just
you know, to let your haird down, let God say
what you want to say on tonight. And so for
those of you who are just popping on, tonight's theme
is building the legacy Apostolic women who multiply, and.
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So this theme speaks even to your.
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Life's work Apossum, Michelle, and some of the things that
you are doing right now in ministry and the things
that I've heard you talk about right raising up leaders
and pouring into the next gen.
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And you have demonstrated what.
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It means to reproduce kingdom impact. So let's jump in
and let's get into this conversation.
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In my thoughts question on tonight this who.
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Has been the greatest spiritual daughter or son that you
have raised up? And what has that experience taught you
raising that son or daughter?
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What is that taught you?
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Listen? I laughed. First of all, I'm gonna answer this question,
but I laughed.
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I was like, the first question is gonna set me
up for the rest of my life here on this
side of heaven, but heads down beyond the shadow of
and now that I've been able to look into the
arsenal of what God has done and allowed me to do,
and I had to sit still and just take in
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everything this woman of God has done and been for me.
And so I had to drop some notes down so
that I stay on course, because I can probably talk
for hours of the great opportunity to Bertha, foreign to her,
walk with her, walk beside her, see her flourished into
her own. So I would like to say, some of
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them know, the woman of God that I'm speaking of
is none other than the prophets, the doctor Shadi Kasma.
I am extremely grateful for her. Listen, it ain't not
been easy, but it's surely been God's purpose and his design.
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So the first thing I would like to say is,
when I looked at the question about the greatest I
went to the scripture and first Corinthians four and two,
and it says moreover, it is required in a store
that they must be found faithful. And one of the
things that as I look into the greatness of who
that she is, that that that's a scripture that I
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can clearly.
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Pay a picture of who she is too, So I.
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Wouldn't say she's the greatest, but I will say this
that she is the consistent one.
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And we know that God measures our.
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Greatness and by our faithfulness and our fruitfulness, and she
does have much fruit accounts to her account. She's not
seeking fame or fortune.
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She's convicted.
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She's convinced, and she's convicted of her covenant purpose in God,
and so being able to pour into her has been
a joy because she's consistently reaching for God concerning the
things of God, concerning what he has said, concerning what
He is saying, consistently just connected to the divine relationship
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of being.
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A daughter enduring.
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Correction as one such as a Ruth is who is
pouring into And we're gonna get so.
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Much more into this.
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A routh that says I'm going with I'm going with God,
in other words, as wrong as I'm with you, because
I know that where I'm going is with God. So
she embodies the vision not only that I that I carry,
but she embodies mind spirited, my compassion to surrender and
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to support my local ministry. So if I'm not present,
she's president, she can stand in my stead. I don't
have to like question if she's going to be able
to execute the assignment. She's she's she's Elishah in the
spirit that she's not trying to abmitic me.
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But as you can see, her own flow is what
she is allowing.
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Herself to be birthed into through her surrender, through her submission,
her presence, her faithfulness, her she's this is a modern
day ruthe I I tied her today as I was
considering her, It's like, how do God loved you so
much when he can give you a modern day Rut
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and a modern day Elijah and the same person.
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To fulfill an assignment in the earth.
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And because she embodies the prophetic vision that God gives me,
there's much that I can speak on that she can
grab it.
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She's a vision runner.
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She is Gods birthday her to be able to continue.
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On the work.
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The work continues through her, the legacy, and I'm extremely
excited about the fact that God has chosen her to
do so.
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I love that.
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I love that and this you know what you were
saying of talking about legacy.
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That brings me to my next question.
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So why is spiritual legacy important to you as an
Apostolic leader. You mentioned that word, and I know that
a lot of times people just throw that term around legacy, legacy,
But why is that important to you as an Apostolic leader?
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Okay, So why that's important to me is for a
while I questioned my assignment because I wasn't building buildings
and I wasn't building all of these things, and God
began to minister to me.
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He says.
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The measure of apostolic ministry is not necessarily in every
building that you build, because every person that you're building,
that you're pouring into that you are seeing the heart
of God birth forth in them. They are then able
to go and forth and to expand and to increase
and continue the work in God.
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So I understand that the importance.
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Of that to me is making certain that I'm in
right posture to continue.
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To pour and to the people and people of.
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God so that being built and God's work can continue.
And it's going to ensure that this work continues to
go on. And I never, you know, sometimes you look
at Oh, this is gonna.
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I don't want this work to end. It can't. In
with me, I'm saying, I got a cold is it
gonna go on?
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But this is the heartbeat of spiritual legacy and making
certain that we're pouring and impacting and imparting into those
that's gonna carry it for long after we're transitioned into
Kingdom Heaven.
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I love that.
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I love that because we absolutely know that real ministry
is built on the backs of sons and daughters.
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And so we got to be able to give it
to somebody.
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Amen.
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And so as we were talking about leaving legacy pouring
into others, and I know that this is a big
thing for you, right, how do you intentionally pour into
the next generation?
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The way God uses me is in pouring is and
really truly training up the profits, not just just and
just teaching, but really truly making certain that there is
a spiritual DNA transfer that's taking place in their lives
and not my DNA, the Kingdom DNA, the DNA that
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He has purpose concerning their life and intentionally pouring into them,
making certain that what I'm demonstrating, making certain that the documents,
which is the writings, making sure that all of the
deposits are they are without being self fulfilling for me,
but something that expands the kingdom of God. Yes, yes, yes,
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I love that.
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Go ahead, go ahead? What was you going to say?
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Go ahead?
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Oh?
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I was getting ready to say.
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And not only that, one of the things that I
was thinking about was the prophetic.
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Fire that flows.
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As we're intentionally pouring into the generation, we begin the
sense to see that that prophetic fire starts bubbling and
rolling into them, and then it.
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Becomes important for us to be.
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Intentional and making sure that knowledge proceeds and and matches.
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The fire that they have.
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To continue on the work, because we don't want them
to just be full of fire and no knowledge.
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And no wisdom and no discipline.
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So intentionally making certain that they are grounded, training them
and understanding, Oh Lord, understanding that in.
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Your mantle there is much.
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There is much more than an expression of prophecy or
spiritual healing. It's about establishing. It's about a work that
has to continue to go on. It's about, like O, Lord,
intentionally pooring.
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Knowing that generations are at state.
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Like every every time I got the opportunity to intentionally
sit and poor, whether it's prophecion eco or every profit,
the one thing that is in mind is that reformation
has to be at the end of the conversation that
I'm having with you, because everything has to change when
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you leave from For I believe from my presence for
the better and in God.
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Yes, my God, my God.
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So that's that's that's where I am and believing that
the being very intentional and raising up prophets that are
not only hearing God, but are embodying what move has
to be.
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Established in the earth.
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Going through the warfare, going through the heart, going through
the pain, and still standing in what God said. That's
how we are intentionally pouring into this next generation, not.
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Giving them an excuse to keep calling in siting because.
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They got a headache, but holding them to an accountability
jesulding them into a standard of This is the time
to press, this is the time to wow, this is
the term to persevere, and this is the time to
allow your faith to ignite you and.
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To love that.
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I love that.
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You know we were sharing some time ago in our
Bible study that you know a lot of times we
are thinking that revival is the end result.
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Revival is not the end result we looking for.
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We're looking for reformation. Yes, we're looking for reformation. That
is a powerful statement. And when we understand that. You know,
we're looking for God, by his spirit to reform the
hearts of man, reform our regions, reform you know, the
areas that we are in by us pouring into the
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lives of these that He has assigned to us. That
right there, that's the point. That's what we're here for.
And I love that you share that. I just want
to I mean, you know, I know we got questions
or whatever, but I just want you to hit a
little bit about this kingdom DNA. Can you just explain
a little bit about that when you were sharing about
pouring into them?
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Yes, ma'am.
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So we know when we look at like in the
natural structure of it, we see DNA. Or I want
to be just like my mama, you know, or I
want to be just like my daddy. You know, in
the Kingdom of God, there is a DNA, there is
an attribute, there is character, there is these levels of tenacity,
there is this conviction that Kateibald has.
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To be birthed.
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And those are the things that we are trying, not trying.
Those are the things that we are seeing instilled with
them when we are teaching through sound doctrine, when we
are requiring sacrifices. When we are requiring prayers and fastings
and continuing the pushing them and to the presence of.
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God so that they learn to hear from them, sit.
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Here for themselves, and move in obedience to what God
has said and spoken to them. So the spiritual dname
opens them up to the Kingdom's revelation, to the kingdom
way of release, to the being able to be used
as a reformer in the layer, because though Christ does
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not change, some ways that he wants to do things
in the virtual change.
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And if they are.
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Birthed and raised up as reformers, they're not gonna have
the confidence to.
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Go forth in God in the way that He is
revealing that to them.
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Listen to me, and this is so good. I want
to holland scream.
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And I know we gotta get these questions and answers
because I want everybody to be able to receive. But listen,
doctor Senay just highlighted what I wrote down here while
you was talking.
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Listen, this cannot be bought.
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It has to be birthed.
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Can you tell the.
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People you cannot by conviction. She's a my conviction. You
cannot get it.
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In the prayer line, and this is why.
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And this is why some spiritual sons.
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And daughters are so hard because they by shuttle time,
they have allowed God to birth convictions in them through
them for their assignment, and it birth's jealousy and envy
it from the others, and they're not willing to pay
the Christ that they have had to pay, which is
to be birthed into conviction. Meaning no one has to
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make me do anything that God has given me a
word or a mission or a mandate, whether it's a person,
whether it's a ministry, whether it's a business, whatever it is.
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I'm gonna throw this laptop across this room. Oh my God, listen.
And that's a thing. When you start talking about legacy,
you start talking about birth and sons and daughters, you
know that there are those who catch what you're carrying,
and those who are watching them catch what you're carrying
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get jealous enough for carrying it and catching it right
that right there, because they're being birthed out.
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I love this.
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Think about this and think about it. I'm gonna say, Mama,
think about it.
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Apostle, remember when Elisha was under Elijah.
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The company of prophets.
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Were on the other side making him because his conviction
says stay close right, but their comfort says stay far away, Jesus.
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So sometimes you have to make certain that your comfort
and keeping you from.
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Your purpose, because your purpose could possibly and your conviction
could put you in harm's way.
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But God, but God, and you could have went on
here and say, Mama, we all know that it's fine.
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Yes, I respect.
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I'm trying to respect the broadcast. Loah, I just I
can I just say, I just heard and even as
we were speaking, I just heard the spirit of the
Lord begins a minister that this is the hour where
if you are, If you are, you would yield yourself
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and surrender yourself. He will birth conviction in you for
what it is that he is requirring of you for.
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This next decade. It's going to require a conviction. It's
going to require.
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A conviction because if you are without conviction, you're going
to become a hireland.
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You will be sold to the highest bidder.
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The platform that offers you the most money will get
your attention. She's creature that preach the best will be
able to speak you out of your position.
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Ah Jesus.
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By Sika by Sordia Hostan she's the things that I
have had the honor of knowing and witness that many
people have given, even Shanika indecent proposals, you know, serve
me and ohoh you so cold, and you excel it
and you do a good word and and we can
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use something. But her conviction is, yeah, I know we
may be having a moment, but that's my mama, that's
my leader. That's who are massigned to cover, that's who
I'm assigned to protect.
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And even some people.
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Have said, listen, the line gets drawed if your name
come up.
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But that was birth from conviction, from conviction.
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When she came into my life, it took me a
long time to receive her mm hmm.
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But until God was able to speak.
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To her who she was and who I was, we
had no relationship. Why Why Because I don't need any
more offers than my life. Jesus, if you just want neil,
I can give you that, but don't do it under
the pretest love.
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My God, this is good, this is so so good.
Listen you, she said a very long time man, Jesus, listen,
this is rich because we need this.
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We need this.
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Because we're in the hour where there are people aligning
themselves with people because they have a name, because they
have a platform, because there is something that they are
offering to them, right, And what is happening is they
are appealing to the orphan in them, and that is
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how calm they are so easily pulled out into something
else because the enemy speaks to you know what I'm saying,
or uses them to speak to those empty places, those
chasms in you, those those those areas, those voids.
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And so this is so powerful because sonship takes time.
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Yes, ma'am, can I say this?
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Please?
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Do you? She was not.
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She never called me mom in her orphaned state. It
wasn't allowed. It wasn't permitted in our relationship and in
our atmosphere because listen, I really truly fear God and
my owner God, and so you can't.
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I can't be called mom until.
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That orphan spirit is healed, because the first time correction comes,
I ain't gonna be mom. I'm gonna be Elton. I
was telling my husband the other day, I said, somebody
who called me mom for for for a couple of years,
one word this week, and all of a sudden, I'm
elder to Shelle now, and so I did.
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I didn't they do that? They do that my feelings.
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If I be honest, my little heart was a little
crush because you ain't never did that.
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But guess what I realized, we.
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Didn't work through all of the orphaned spirit that was
on the inside of you. And so I was only
mother while I was appeasing you and not allowing you
to deal with the demons that were laying dormant, rejection
and abandonment and all of those spirits still flowing, which
would hurt both of us in a war.
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Why.
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And that's that's a thing, you know, that place of vulnerability,
that place of putting yourself on the line to be
able to mother, pour into nurture, birth out, you know
all of those things. And it's funny that you said that,
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how that you know it's now you go back to
your title, you know, and it has happened.
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I'm I'm my mother whatever.
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But when I correct apostle, you know what I'm saying.
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And you always know that that posture has shifted, and
you say, okay, take care and this is all good.
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Praise Lord, thank to Jesus.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
But that's a powerful nugget that you just shared. And
so leaders that are listening, y'all need to write it down.
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Put it, put put it.
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You know how you drop a pin on your phone
when you get to a location you don't want to forget,
drop a pin right there, that you don't forget this location,
that you don't let people just call you mother just
because you know what I'm saying, and that you don't.
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You don't let that move you, you know.
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And one of the things I.
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Used to say all the time is I'm not enamored
with anybody calling me mother because I know what it
means to birth.
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The child out in real life.
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So I can't be swayed by you calling me my.
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That's not gonna that's not gonna pull me in a
different direction, you know.
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And so that is a powerful, powerful nugget.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Listen, I want to move on to this next question
because we can spend all night on that, because that
what you are talking about has so many layers, so many.
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Facets to it.
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Because we are dealing with this today in this society.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
We're talking about multiplying, were talking about leaving legacy, We're
talking about pouring into the lives of others, and we
have so many people who have not been nurtured Father
mothered in their natural So they come into the church
with these expectations and.
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Then we have.
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To dig out all of this stuff and take them
through deliverance and all of the things you know, and
help them walk through get delivered from this orphaned spirit
so that they can walk in the fullness of the
ministry that God has called them to do.
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So I want to know, so yes, ma'am, Yes, Max.
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Second, for the leaders that are present, that are on here. Yes.
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One of the things that is it is so important
and I had to.
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Walk through this process.
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Is if you try to mother and you of an
orphan spirit and you are of an unhealed place, you
are now trying to give them what.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
You think they need.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
You're trying to give them what you either this or
you think, and it makes it difficult for you to
really sit in the presence of God and receive what
He wants and needs to be delivered into them.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
And so I encourage us. One of my greatest.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Battles even with Welcome with doctor Smill and she'll tell
you she was like, she's she's very little tough now
about it was this mother thing. We got a whole
process now because I know her prep real life went
to a whole nother level.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
We walked through it, but understanding making certain.
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That you're healed, yes, before you're taking on these sons
and daughters.
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That's important, That is so important.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
So what strategies have you used to multiply your ministry
impact as we're talking about raising up sons and daughters
right dealing with being able to make sure that we're healed,
making sure that we are not.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Mothering in the.
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Spirit from a broken place, from our own fra right,
our own mother fractures or father fractures, and different things
in that nature wants what strategies have you used to
multiply your ministry impact deal with all the kinds of
people that you've had to deal with.
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One of the things that one thing that has been
so critical with me for me is remembering that I
am a wife and a mother to those that are
in the in the body of in.
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The church as well as at home.
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So one of the things that I have allowed as
a strategy is for me to remain grounded, to remain balanced,
and to remain grounded to make certain that what to
be important in the ministry I can I can back
it with my husband in the house and knowing that
you know, everybody's receiving what they need to receive, so
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there is no neglect there being supportive, being supportive of
you know, your sons and daughters and.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Those that you are raising up in ministry be to
memory event.
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But for as many of them as I can, I'm
going to show up. If it's not just showing us,
show my if it's not just showing up in present,
it's how do I plan a seed? If it's not
planning to see, how can I pray it in a seed?
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And powering them to leave.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
One of the things that Apostle taught us early on.
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The ministry is I am not here to babysit you.
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I am here to empower you to leave outside of
my presence so that you don't have to keep calling
me asking me for answers to something that you should
already be able to deal with. So one of the
things that that that it's I'm very heavy on is
empowering to lead.
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What are you saying?
Speaker 5 (30:42):
What are we doing? What? What?
Speaker 4 (30:43):
What's your solution to this? How are we flowing in this?
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Well?
Speaker 4 (30:48):
We got this going on to this? What are we
doing and then let me know and we're gonna put
a plan together and starting the vision and not just
being controlling. It's like, okay, you got this role responsibility,
so now I'm a check and verify, but I'm not in.
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The control how it's done, and I do.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Know it needs to be done in God and in
God's spirit. And so those are some of the strategies.
And definitely mentoring intentionally, and that's one of the things
that I highly respect you for is and in the mentorship,
it was very intentional, it was very strategic. I never
sat in your session my first session. You knew what
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God said. I was saying something else, but you was like, no,
this is what God said, this is what this is
or whatever, and it was exactly what I needed. So
I've taken that to make certain that I am mentored
intentionally so that I can have maximum impact. And also
building truck building teams. One of the things that I
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desire is team building. It's where I fought the most
at too, because.
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It is my desire.
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Nevertheless, I'm gonna keep building and serving, whether.
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It's my vision, whether it's my apostle.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Vision, whether it's apostle friend vision, whether it's precious love vision,
whether it's a legal small vision, whether it's whomever, to
my ability, I am.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
That's facts and we can attest to that. We can
definitely attest to that that you definitely love being on
the team and building and putting your hand to the plow.
And we honor the Lord and we honor you for
that because that is something that is commendable, especially in leadership.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
You know, sometimes we get.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Titles and we have this current error that we are
living in where people have titles and they forget that
we are chief servants above everything.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
We are here to serve. And so this was just you.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Know, that's something that is so very important for us
to remember right that we are here, you're to service.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
So I love that you said that. So now let's
talk a little bit.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Go back to legacy again, and what lessons about legacy
have you learned from other Biblical you know, people in
the Bible, women in the Bible, like.
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Debra, Priscilla, or Lydia.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Have you looked at any of their lives and what
have you learned about legacy from their lives?
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Okay, so there's there's there's so many. When I sat and.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
I started meditating, y'all apostle friend, she sent me up, y'all,
y'all sweet apostle. She worked, she she got, she stretched
me on this one. I'm grateful that she did. But
the first woman that I want to honor tonight in
the Apostolic apostle friend stubbs.
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Yeah, Oh, Lord Gez, because as I said, as I
sat and considered, like Sarah, you carried the scene of
promised the births, regardless to whatever condition that we were
in or are in, to bring us.
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To a place of confidence and boldness.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Jesus, So your woman's carried the covenant for spiritual sons
and daughters. Sarah became, she was she she was known
for birthing unusual birthing. I heard the Lord said that
this would be an hour of unusual birth thing for you, Jesus,
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as I was sitting in meditating and said, unusual birthings
proven that God's promise will never depend on your age
and your circumstance.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
So wherever you are, his Jesus outlives it. His promise,
outpaces it, his promise, It outsupports it his promise.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Because this is not about a human timeline, this about
a kingdom word that.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
He is doing through you and the earth, My God,
my goodness.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
And then he said, apostle friend models faith in the
face of frustration.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
And I asked for a scripture, and he says.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Through faith, Sarah herself receives strip to conceive. See Jesus,
there's stripp that God has given you to conceive even
the greater thing that He purposed to release in the
earth through you, Jesus.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Because God has just you, faithful, God.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Mighty, God's alpostolic women. We got to carry faith that
outlass frustration. And that's one of the places that I
was filling in. And he showed me, he said, she's
out blasting it. Her faith is over. She's showing you
the bluebread. She's gonna be frustrating about everything that you
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got going on, but she's showing you how to outpace
it your faith. So that's the first woman that I wanna,
I wanna, I wanna honor in the in in the
word Jesus, Hallelujah, Mind God.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
I received that, Thank.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
God, Jesus, Jesus, hallelujah. And so another woman that that
that Mary, She I don't remember she's on the list
or not, but I'm sitting him, I'm considering these women,
and he began to show me yet again, it was
through birthing in stewardship that that that Mary is now
birthing the apostle into the earth. Oh, and her legacy
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continues on because this was.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
A handmaid of the Lord.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
That he found her faithful, and she is hallelujah. He
finds her faithful to talking about her legacy is so
strong that not only did she birds, she goes to
meet Inlizabeth, and I studied this auth apostle friend that
blew me away.
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She walked eighty to a hundred miles to get to Elizabeth.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Jesus, color Lujah, I'm.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
Studying it out. She stops.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
You're eighty to one hundred miles to get to another
woman to activate what was on the inside of her.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Jesus my God, saying, hother lujah.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
The inside of you cannot die.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Cannot it cannot die, It cannot die.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
And so Jesus.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
And so and so I was like Lord, and he
said the legacy of Mary was so strong because spirit
recognized spirit when she went and colored Luliah. When she
wins the salutation of her voice calls the baby and
Elizabeth to leap.
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Oh God, thank you Jesus.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
Somebody on here tonight.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Our voices are going to cause what's on the inside
of you to leap, and its authentically leap and it's
normal the.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Little lake Dorman in your wound.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
You will not be able to stay still, not that
will you be able to stay silent, because there is
an awakening.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
To coming to you tonight.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Because at the salutation, the earthing is manifesting the conception
when Mary greeted Elizabeth that they believed in her womb.
And guess what that's recognizing a divine prophetic expression taking place.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Jesus, Jesus, Jesus.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
It came to pass that when Elizabeth heard the salutation.
So then look how powerful the legacy is that says
that that that Elizabeth heard another woman, that's a legacy
she heard and what was in.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Her spirit to this woman that's powerful.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
Married didn't just listen Mary?
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Oh God, So Mary is not just come with a greeting.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Come on, it would have.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Just been a hell no, nothing would have happen, my God.
But her greeting and her salutation the baby leaves. That's
representation of God's glory and operation through a vessel who
I've killed.
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Himself to come from Jesus.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
The story started taking place. So this this, this, this, this,
this lady bless me and and it's what it's set
in motion, that prophetic activation and destiny. Because remember John
and Jesus both. John was never greater than Jesus. Jesus
was always the supreme one. But he responded to John
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and allowed him to baptize him. But they already knew
each other because the wound, the wound, something had already happened.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
And that's.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Come, good boy, Jesus, my heighted God Jesus. So yes,
we can just get lost there. I'm gonna keep on
moving because I know for timesake. And then we started
talking about and then one of the other ones was.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
It was Lydia right.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
The Lord says that she was the Apostolic entrepreneur. Right,
her legacy lives on. I said what he said. She
operated the kingdom.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
Air B and B.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Comeboy here, Jesus, Jesus gave it to me.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Jesus gave it to me.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Wow, because in the marketplace her legacy is going on.
This is why God places us on the heart of
some women of God to continue to open their homes
and and prepare rooms for the women of God or
the men of God.
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Because he's doing something supernatural.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
We know, we know Debora, she was the the apostolic judge,
but we got to remember that she she judged, but
she wasn't judgmental, that her judgment was not from the flesh.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
It was not personal. It was not because I don't
like you, and.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Because I'm gonna say what they said and say that
I saw it ain't seen nothing.
Speaker 5 (41:19):
Lion lying sere And so.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
That's a whole another scenario there.
Speaker 5 (41:25):
Jesus, oh, my God, Jesus than just prophesied.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
She governed, governed, Come on, she governed, she mades right, yes.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
And she in power the one that was supposed to
be leading.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
You better come on here, she empowered.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
Here, here she is exhorting the man of God who
should have been leading the army.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
My god, it's in the Bible.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
So we see that she's she's, she's she's.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
She's got is using her supernaturally here on so many
different levels, as a wife, as a judge, as an encourager,
and someone that's pouring, and someone that's encouraging someone possibly
above them. So one of the things as Apostolic leaders
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in our multiplication, there are times expansion can come through
us for those that we are serving.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Listen, Jesus, Oh my God, Oh my God.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
Sometimes you're sitting on revelation that we've been praying and
asking God to release and reveal to us is in
your wound, but your mouth is silent.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
Come on, come on, come on, Oh.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Lord Jesus, this is so heavy.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
If you have not shared this broadcast yet, I don't
know what y'all are doing.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
You got to share this broadcast.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
There are some courageous Apostolic women that are walking the
beat by themselves and they need to hear this word tonight.
They need to hear these nuggets that are being dropped
in the room tonight because Apossum Michelle is on fire
over here on tonight, and we want to make sure
that as many as can share it in some of
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the groups that you are in, share it on your page,
because she is giving us some words of life that
are speaking to us tonight. No matter where you are
in your walk, no matter where you are in your ministry,
no matter where you are on your journey, these are
things that we need to hear so that we can't
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continue to fulfill what God has called us to do.
Many of us are in different places were raising up
sons and doing us We have you know, have had
to deal with people who have off in spirits. We're
learning how to leave a lasting legacy.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Where you know, we're not just imparting ourselves, but imparting
the Kingdom Dna, like she's talking about, we got to
get this word and we want to.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Be able to share this with as many people as
we possibly can. So please take a minute and like
and tag and share this broadcast because we want to
be a blessing to the other women of God that
are are Maybe they just sitting at home doing absolutely nothing.
Interrupt somebody and tell them to get on here and
come and get this word on tonight. Tell them to
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stop watching some foolishness and the God suffests on.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
YouTube and come on to get this word on tonight.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
They need something that's going to impact their life and
spur them on into the next.
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Place in the Lord that is powerful powerful.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
You know a lot of times we look at the
scripture and we say, oh, I've been inspired by this one.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
As I'm reading the scripture, I've been inspired by that.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
But I love the way that you broke down each
person and what they have done, the things that they
have done that have impacted you, and brought it home
to so that it's relevant for today. This lineal was
like you said, she was an Apostolic Airbnb. She was
one of the Apostolic Airbnb out.
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She was kingdom, she was in the kingdom.
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Love.
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I love it represented marketplace ministry. A lot of times we.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
We we missed that that that is a part of
our assignment. We may not have a physical building, but
our whole becomes an altar. Yes when when when God
requires it, we offer it to him. It becomes a
place where he can he can he can meet and Joel.
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I love it.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
We're gonna ask one more question, then we're gonna take
a quick break, and then we're gonna come back and
ask some more questions.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
But so let's let's look at this next question. Can
you tell us tell me of.
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Women on tonight, how do you handle discouragement? Because this
is a big deal.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
When you are pouring into the lives of others, you
raising up sons and daughters, you are you know, pouring.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Into the next generation.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
You know, you're giving up your time making sacrifices.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
But how do you handle discouragement when you're mentioning others?
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Right?
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But then they seem like they fall off.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
They don't seem like they're catching it.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
They don't seem like they are getting what you're putting down.
They're not picking up what you're putting down. How do
you handle that? Because it's a real thing. Discouragement while
you're pouring out into others is.
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A real thing.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Can you speak to the women.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
About that or tonight?
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Yeah, nothing breaks your heart more than to see the
enemy disrupting, you know, kingdom purpose. But definitely, one of
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the things that I've learned to do is I begin
to introspect, to make certain, first of all that I'm
not perfect, but make certain that I'm not part of
the reason of the pull.
Speaker 5 (47:10):
Away, right, you know. And then I remember to not
take it personal. And I know these things.
Speaker 4 (47:18):
May sound simple, but a lot of times, when you're
in that space, it's easy to take it personal. It's
easy to think, Okay, I've done something wrong, or it's
my fault, or I didn't give enough, or and so
I really.
Speaker 5 (47:35):
Just step back and I just stopped taking it.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
So personal, and then I begin to revisit what God
has said concerning them. I begin to revisit I know
that God spoke this word concerning them. I know that
God has revealed this concerning their destiny. I know that
God has said that they're going to walk and go
to these nations, and these lives are going to be
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transformed and change.
Speaker 5 (48:00):
And so that is a part of where encouragement starts.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
Coming in at is because God can't lie. So as
I'm revisiting you know what, Oh God, I think as
I'm Unshundy who in sum Hume, as I'm revisiting what
God has said, it begins to encourage me and knowing
that he cannot lie and he cannot fail.
Speaker 5 (48:23):
And then another thing is to release them.
Speaker 4 (48:25):
And from what has happened, so that that you don't
retain it. And one thing that you taught me is
even in those places, make certain that you are a
safe place for landing. And so I positioned myself to
make certain that even when I'm discouraged, I need to
make certain at any point I need to be a
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safe space for landing.
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Now, you did give me a.
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Permission to not always be a space for landing. But
you did say I needed to always be a safe
space for land and so that's one of the things.
And then without losing focus, because a lot of times
we can love so hard that we will lose focus
on the fact that they are human, that that that
that that the steps of a good man in order
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by the Lord, and that they are traps and enspearming
and and and only loving while they're doing good is
not unconditional love. That's conditional love, and so reevaluating that.
And one thing that I never agree with the enemy
concerning their destiny. I don't care what it reveals.
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I don't care what he says, I don't care what
he has shown me.
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Is it's a practice that I do with my children,
all of them across the board. I will never agree
with the enemy concerning them and their destiny. I don't
care how true it is. In my face, I will
not give you my agreement. And then I refolk. And
then one of the things that's important, and it may
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seem where is you have to remain focused on who's
present at that time, because if they're oh and doing
other things, you have to remain focused on who is present.
You still have to pour on who is present. You
still have to build with who is present. You still
have to prepare for who is present, for what is
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next and what is to come.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Oh my gosh, are y'all getting this? Oh my god,
I hope you're getting this, because this is a real, real,
did I say, real real thing? You have people who
have given their everything to ministry to people that they love.
But those points that you just that you just you know,
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shared especially that, and somebody just put this up here.
Those who are present.
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Don't forget those who are present.
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You can't be falling out about who walked away or
who's not receiving.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Who is still there?
Speaker 1 (50:53):
Yes, who is still there while you abhorring, Because sometimes
the enemy will make us look at what you've lost
versus what God has kept in place and in position. Yes,
and that is so so so so so good. Oh
my god, I love I love all of this. And
this is why this is so important for us.
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We need this.
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Look at look at look at Brother Cameron.
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On him, blessen Jesus and make it sure and make
it certain that you don't make the person that's present
paid for the person that left. To make certain the
person that's present, don't have to pay for the pain
that someone else produced or or inflicted upon you. Has
has been a real uh journey for has been a
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real journey from for.
Speaker 5 (51:42):
Me and and and one of.
Speaker 4 (51:47):
One of the spaces that I have had to heal
a lot from is that space of making certain that's
one person that that ain't everybody, Michelle, that's one person's pain.
That's one person's rebellion, that's one person's betrayal. That's one
person's being vindictive.
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That's not everyone.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Yes, and that's powerful, that one person, not.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Everybody, not everybody. And doctor Schnika just said something right here,
prodigals do return. Can we just take a minute and
just run down this road for a second. I know
this is question is not up on the it's not
in the in the list, but I want to hit
this before we take a little commercial break. Listen, how
do you prepare your son to stay?
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For the son to return?
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That that's that's your journey and.
Speaker 5 (52:47):
Those seasons the come back? Absolutely, and how are you
going to receive them in love?
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Come on?
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And and and how are we you know, how we're
gonna flow and God, God and knowing, Okay, we can
do one or two things. We can walk in fear
and paranoia, or we can walk in faith knowing that.
Speaker 5 (53:08):
No weapon formed against the shop press. The greatest thing that.
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We can know is that God has given them the
green light to return, and so as they return, it's
important that we have been doing the work on the
inside of us so that they are not condemned when
they can return, but they can receive yet again the.
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Love of the Father. I say it like this.
Speaker 4 (53:33):
I had to be willing and I have to be
willing to give you back the knife that you used
the last time, because I can't do this in paranoia.
I can't walk with God in paranoia. So I got
to clean this knife off and give it back to
you and know that no weapon formed against me shall prosper.
Speaker 5 (53:52):
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (53:53):
It sounds, I mean, it sounds cute, but it's difficult
to give you know, a weapon, because it ain't a
tool when you give it to a perceived enemy. When
you go there and then and trust that you know
that God is going to protect you and learning how
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and doing so even with prodigals that that.
Speaker 5 (54:18):
Sometimes they're not even returning for good.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
Sometimes they're come on and speak this right here, glory
to God.
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And because they're hungry, they're returning because they have a need.
They're returning because they need shelter, but they're not returning
to say, And if we don't know that, then we
set our own selves up. So dessertment is important, and
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self work and self self being self uh preserved, not
self protected, is going to be important.
Speaker 1 (54:56):
I love this so much, and this is why this
is so needed. And I'm loving all the comments and
all the interaction because.
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This is speaking to us.
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We are you know, we may have all dealt with
this in different facets and you know, different ways, but
some point or another, we have dealt with somebody that
we have trusted and they have.
Speaker 1 (55:16):
Done something that we didn't like or you know, or
hurt us or use the knife on us. And then
we got to turn around and give it back to
them and hope and pray and pray, hope they don't
use it again in the wrong way.
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Oh my God.
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And so this is so good.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
And this is.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
Why I believe that the Lord has called this the
courageous Apostolic woman, because it takes courage to step out
into the things that God is speaking for.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
You to do.
Speaker 3 (55:45):
When you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
Sometimes you really don't feel like it, or because you're
worried about the price that it's going to cost you
when you get out here.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
And do it.
Speaker 3 (55:54):
Let me hurry up.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
And just do this. I just want to give you all.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
A quick station identification, really quick, and then we're going
to come back to these questions. So before we continue,
I just want to take a minute to invite all
of you women, those of.
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You that are on here.
Speaker 1 (56:07):
Maybe you're not a part of our depor company, our
Apostolic women working together, our group, if you are interested
in that, I want you to send me an inbox,
let me know that you're interested so that we can
get you in the group. The group is private, it's
not something that we're just posting a thousand things. And
we are all purpose and in purpose. It is about
us encouraging one another. We are right now preparing for
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our mentor mondays, some of us who have gone through
the mentoring training, and we're going to be, you know,
creating mentoring moments inside that group so that we can
be a blessing to one another because there is work
that we have to do. This is a vibrant place
that's online for apostolic and prophetic women so that we
can gather, grow, connect and sharpen one another. Right, It's
a hub for mentorship. That's what it's all about. It's
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about training, prayer, and empowerment. Some of our ladies are
in here that are online on tonight and they are
a part of the Depra company online. So if you're
a woman and you're walking in leadership, ministry or in
business right and you want to be a part of this,
send me an inbox.
Speaker 3 (57:07):
Let me know, because you can't find it if you search.
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For it online.
Speaker 1 (57:09):
I did that on purpose because I don't want us
just to be what everybody else is being there inundating
us with stuff and just you know, posting foolishness and.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
Just just to say that we.
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Got to follow it. That's not what we're about.
Speaker 4 (57:20):
We are on purpose and in persons in purpose, and
so we would love to have you be a part
of our family.
Speaker 3 (57:26):
And while you online, let.
Speaker 4 (57:28):
Me just say this, I want to encourage you to
go to Amazon dot com.
Speaker 3 (57:33):
I had a delay.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
God has given me a mandate that every thirty days,
I am to release a book every thirty days. So
I'm compiling all of my notes. I don't know if
you can see all of my binders. Maybe I'm leading
the wrong way. All of these binders are filled with
my notes throughout the years, and I am com follling
them and I am putting them together.
Speaker 3 (57:55):
So I have a late release.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
And this is a part two to Battle Overcoming, which
was only three chapters. But this one here is a
little bit more. So you can get it a kindle format.
It is called every Day Overcomers, all right, And so
I want you to get ready to win your battles.
Speaker 3 (58:14):
Holly and Lujash.
Speaker 1 (58:14):
If you're tired of feeling overwhelmed by life's challenges, every
Day Overcomers is your field god to winning the spiritual
warfare you face every single day. And so in this book,
I'm giving you bite sized battle drills. We got battle
drills in the book. At the end of every chapter
is a battle drill. And so it's gonna help you
conquer anxiety, offense, temptation, cycles of relapse.
Speaker 2 (58:37):
What are you relapsing in?
Speaker 1 (58:39):
I need you to go to Amazon dot com right,
and even some things in your relationships. Some of us
have relationship conflicts that we are dealing with. I want
you to go to Amazon dot com and get that
book and listen. Friday, Friday, Friday and Saturday, We're gonna
be with my brother Apostle Deandra Douglass out and Ruskin
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and check his life. And we are going to be
there for his leadership conference Towels over Titles, and so
we want to invite you to come and be with
us there. Registration is still open and so you don't
want to miss this move of God. And finally, I
want you to prepare yourself for November's release.
Speaker 3 (59:18):
The book is not ready yet, but the cover is ready.
Speaker 2 (59:22):
So I'm telling you every thirty days when God is.
Speaker 1 (59:25):
Speaking to me about what I got to drop, I
want to drop it here because there are resources that
we have need of. And when I take my last breath,
I'm leaving all this stuff here Hallelujah, Thank you Jesus,
because somebody needs it. And so our release for the
month of November, this book will be ready November eleventh.
Unmasking the Spirit the Absalom Spirit.
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Listen.
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If you have ever dealt with people who have competed
with you, thought that they was there to be you, thought.
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That they was there to take your place, and all
of the things, and all of the things.
Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Listen to me. This book is going to bless your life.
Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
And it's not something that's just gonna be talking about
people and tear them down. We're gonna talk about how
you can deal with people who come to you with
hidden mods or motives when you know, how do you
handle when your trust is undermined? How do you recognize
the anatomy of betrayal? How do you recover from the
heartbreak of betrayal when.
Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
You have trusted people?
Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
You need to get this in your arsenal, So get
ready November eleventh. November eleventh, the book will be ready
in a kindle.
Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Format and and paperback. So I wanted to be able
to share that information with you. You gotta get this,
You gotta get this. You gotta get it. You gotta
get it.
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And so we thank God for all that he's doing.
Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
We're gonna get back into these questions, Amen, because we
want you to be able to receive it. I know
that the hour is moving on, Amen, but I want
us to be able to finish this conversation with this
great woman to God, and I want her to be
able to share with you what she has on the horizon,
what's coming up? And I want her to finish these
questions because I need you all to get so we
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only have a couple more questions. So can you tell
us tonight what's the difference between leaving a ministry footprint
and leaving a kingdom legacy? You talked about kingdom DNA,
Let's talk about kingdom legacy.
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What's the difference?
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Poor lord?
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So, as I said, you know, the first thing I
went back to is Jesus, you know, saying you know
what I'm said about it. And one of the revelations
that came to me is that the footprint represents.
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You were there.
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Yes, yes, yeah, it.
Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
Simply means that that that that was present. But legacy
speaks to the continuation. Yes, And so the difference is
in in in the leaving the footprint is you could leave,
people could know you were there, but it doesn't mean
that it's going to be enough for their lives not
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being transformed or changed or reformed because of those that
have came a step in those steps. Because there should
be a continuation of footprints. Yes, because where my footprints
stop should because footprints should continue. Footprints stop, someone else's
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can continue. So we definitely need to make certain that
we know that it's good to know that we were there,
but just having a footprint there it's not enough. We
have to continue moving on because in time those footprints
may fade away.
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Rain could come, a tax.
Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
Could come, so many things could come. But the person
that's still carrying it, that legacy of where that footprint
left off at is always going to be about multiplication
is going to always be about the continuation. And so
when we're looking at Kingdom legacy, we're looking at what
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continues when when Mike, when my when I've taken this
last step that I could take, yes, does it become
a memory or does it become an altar a place
where someone we met and they were able.
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To pick it up and continue to move for it.
Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
We know that that footprint shows prisons, but we know
too that legacy says that this is this is I
think it's like a premise for knowing that we're.
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Going to continue for.
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So I believe the biggest difference in between those is
knowing that, yes, I have a footprint, Yes I have
made a debt, but that's not enough.
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What's important is.
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Have I been able to pour into someone what needs
to continue Jesus.
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In order the birth that change.
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My God, that's good, that's good.
Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
So can you share with us a story of transformation.
Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
We're talking about leaving a footprint, leaving a legacy, the
difference between the two.
Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Right, can you share a story of transformation about someone
that you have mentored?
Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
You know, when I think about I thought about that
question and one of the young women that I thought about,
which has been a lot, but I want to kind
of highlight profit precious, precious love. Just recently she she
launched that into her assignment and faith and fashion and
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so being able to mentor her growing up.
Speaker 5 (01:04:47):
She was a teenager when she came to us, and
and she was something else.
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But when when she came to us through you know,
dealing with you know, the brokenness, the rejection, the not
knowing who she was, seeing her birth forth and intercession,
gaining her confidence in her momentum, and now seeing her
establish what the boldness to establish what God has given
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her out in the fashion and faith arena has been
a very beautiful thing to see concerning her. So that
would be definitely one of the stories of transformation of
seeing her.
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Now from fourteen to fifteen years.
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Old, sixteen in youth ministry and being able to stand
in her office as a profit and being able to
stand in her assignment as an intercessor, and being able
to stand in her assignment as a business owner as
one that can be called upon to be consulted, is
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a very powerful impact because it was not without sweat,
it was not without tears, it was not without resistance,
but it was alone necessary because we are here now
and God is getting the glory.
Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Oh my god, wow, wow, God is getting the glory.
We love that, and we know Precious is doing an
amazing job and we love to see that fruit that
is in her life from what you have.
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Been pouring in.
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And we give God glory.
Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
So what practices help you to stay consistent in reproduction
and discipleship.
Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
One of them is the discipline to remain in prayer
and study and definitely to remain in obedience.
Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
That's that right there in itself.
Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
It's a lot, especially when you're pulled on a lot,
especially when you're peiing a lot, it's important to stay
in that, in that mode of learning, of being poured
into survey so that this never becomes about it never
becomes about you remain an accountable submitting to Dolly oversight
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and mentorship because it's easy to get here and to
believe you don't need any accountability. But some of the things,
some of the assignments I never did complete, is because
where there's lacks of accountability, you do.
Speaker 5 (01:07:19):
Sometimes you don't sense the need to get it done.
Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
So you have to intentionally surrender, submit yourself to accountability.
Being deliberate about pouring into others and not leaving, not guessing.
I have to be deliberate about what I am pooring
when I'm pouring, how I'm pooring, because it matters what
one may need a pour into the other one may
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not need a poor into.
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That's the power of reformation.
Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
One of the things that God was speaking to me
about even concerning the prophetic ministry, is.
Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
There is we thank God.
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For Kingdom model, but at any given point he can
break away from from what we have done and go
a whole different way safe spirit, the reach has to
be different, and then just being faithful in faithfulness, that's
the way reproduction. You want to people to mirror where
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you are. You got to be faithful yourself. You got
to be showing up. You got to be showing up
when it's inconvenient.
Speaker 5 (01:08:24):
When it's convenient. You got to show up when you see.
Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
You got to show up when you ain't seen. You
got to show up when you need it. On the
coor bed, you got to show up when they need you.
Speaker 5 (01:08:32):
On the sound move because.
Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
Faithfulness, come on, what it does is it eventually equates
to fruitfulness. Now the fruit on your life is representative
of I am not just saying I'm a servant.
Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
I'm really truly a servant at heart.
Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
And we know, multiplication ain't about who serves us. Come on,
it's about who can receive the we just you say,
the DNA. Who can receive spiritual DNA and then replicate
and duplicate and a sling in the earth. You cannot
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do that if you're not being faithful, if you're not
being intentional, if you're not being accountable, and you're not
attending to the disciplines in your life. And one of
the things that is important to is and here what
I've learned is do not build what you ain't ben
assigned to build.
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Come on, oh excuse me.
Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
In other words, build and don't be borrowing other people's stuff.
Come on, right, so then what we are we remembering?
For what I have to remember from myself is a
lot of times I have to remember.
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Don't follow.
Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
You can follow a tread on TikTok for a laugh,
but it's about to keep them.
Speaker 5 (01:09:54):
Don't be following no treads.
Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
It's important that you only build what God is giving
you the build, and don't be borrowing people's stuf because
what they're doing will not work for you.
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What they are doing, well, what work for you.
Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
Work for you, geezus.
Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
And and and the last thing that he did, one
of the things that he has been speaking to me
and and and I believe when we were.
Speaker 5 (01:10:18):
There is about this governing. I have not been able
to shape this.
Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
But he says, when you are governing, this is not
the time for you to be guessing at about anything.
And if you find yourself guessing at times of governing,
then you have not allowed strategy to enter into your
heart and into your spirit.
Speaker 5 (01:10:36):
Before you open your mouth and start releasing.
Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
Wow, wow, wow.
Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Y'all got that, as Poussel Jones would say, you got that.
Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
Glory be to God.
Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Let's sen listen, listen, listen, this is my final question.
And and okay, We're going to just release Apostle in
the moment and just let her be able to share
what's on our heart and just be free for a
moment and even share about things that she has that
are upcoming as well.
Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
But I just want to ask this one last question.
Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
How can women that are in ministry today ensure that.
Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Their influence outlives them?
Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
You know, everybody wants to be an influencer today, you know,
our influencer influence that they're leaving from from doing ministry
following their call because they want to be influencers. How
can they we really want to be able.
Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
To carry this influenced Holy spirit that's given to us.
Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
How can the women who are watching us?
Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Can you give them some pointers on how they can
ensure that they're influence, real godly influence outlives them.
Speaker 4 (01:11:45):
One of the things that is important is as we
have guarded our minds, as we have guarded our minds
and knowing that the king and when kingdom minds at
his present is knowing that that's.
Speaker 5 (01:11:57):
What he wants to see multiplied, not.
Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
Any not like you said, not influencing on anything other
than what does kingdom mindset multiply look like?
Speaker 5 (01:12:10):
In the earth.
Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
If my mindset is multiplied in the earth, what will
it produce my God? And so we have to make
certain that it's like we can, we can, we can.
Speaker 5 (01:12:22):
We can release one hundred ministries.
Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
Under our covering, and none of them got the mindset
of the kingdom.
Speaker 6 (01:12:34):
So mindset matters, not just ministry, not just so you
can have your ministry, not so that you could just
come under, you know, and do those things, but making
certain that the kingdom can be replicated, the Kingdom could
be replicated, not my personality.
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Not the way I may speak, not the way my
lack of speaking is right books, that's you, You're you're
talking about it tonight, God mandated you. One of the
things that the Lord asked me a question a couple
of years ago, and I went on a tangent with it,
was if you only had a choice to leave all
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of the wisdom that you have, all of it, are
you going to leave it in a book or person?
Because I was on a mission to find out who
am I supposed to be pouring into because not everybody
going to pick up a book and read, but listen.
And when when I got the question, the Holygos gave
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me like he confirmed it all.
Speaker 5 (01:13:36):
He's like both, he said both.
Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
So, how are we making sure that our influence outlives us.
We're writing books, we're doing the manuals, we're creating the podcast.
We're documenting our wisdom. We are writing out our dreams
and visions. We are making certain that the dreams that
God has given us that we're releasing. We're making sure
that the encouragement or the dishortations that He has given us.
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We're making sure that the prophetic words that He has
given us for the next generation or the next decade
are being released so that those that read it can
run with it, those that record and listen to it
can know how to function and flow and operate. A
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written voice continues speaking after you have transition. Yes, you
taught me that a written voice, you're a written voice.
Everything you write it is going to continue after you transition.
Someone's going to pick it up and deposit into people.
Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
Yes, don't be talking at people.
Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
You have to deposit invest into people, and sometimes.
Speaker 5 (01:14:53):
That takes time.
Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
Sometimes that requires a level of intimacy that makes us uncomfortable.
Speaker 5 (01:14:59):
Because us we.
Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
Have to make sure that we don't We want to
make sure we don't, you know, run the risk of
you know, being hurt and all of that.
Speaker 5 (01:15:07):
But we can't.
Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
We got to pour into daughters and not and sons,
daughters and sons and not just audiences one of the.
Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Things like oh that's can you say that again?
Speaker 4 (01:15:20):
Poor into this and we got the four into sons
and daughters and not.
Speaker 5 (01:15:24):
Audience just audiences.
Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
God avization, Shadika and I have all the time.
Speaker 5 (01:15:29):
She's like, your daughters need your need.
Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
The poor, and you out here preaching to the nations.
Speaker 5 (01:15:38):
Listens, gonna get what she need.
Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Okay, that's right, these are the facts.
Speaker 5 (01:15:45):
What he needs.
Speaker 4 (01:15:48):
But what that's what he's said. He's like, pour into
your daughters, pour into your sons. Yes you are, you
are called to the nations, But if the nations can
get more from you, then your sons and daughters. That's
the problem. That's a problem because they're at your feet.
Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
Come on, oh my god, hallelujah.
Speaker 5 (01:16:13):
They're at your feet, oh my god. And the only
ray they.
Speaker 4 (01:16:17):
Shouldn't couldn't receive it is if they haven't availed themselves
or opened themselves up to receive it, or submitted themselves
to receive it. So don't make the influence outlives us
is because listen, the world audience ain't gonna take your legacy.
Speaker 5 (01:16:35):
Your sons and daughters are going to take your legacy.
Speaker 8 (01:16:39):
Glory to God, mentor intentional lean raise women and men
who can.
Speaker 5 (01:16:50):
Birth what you begin. Yes, they can birth what you begin.
Speaker 4 (01:16:56):
When we begain revealed, I have two inflicting dates and
God's birthday, and I couldn't say no, God said, Okay.
The continuation is she has to purse what has to
be done because it can't return back to the wound,
it'll die.
Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
In the Oh my God, Oh God, come on, Jesus.
Speaker 5 (01:17:22):
May on these influence live through ruth obedience.
Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Yes, yes, and.
Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
Then lastly it's just stay'll be One of the things
is to stay obedient to the call and not let
the applause of men like Apostle Mark says, remain in
the audience of one because people will applaud you today,
they will persecute you tomorrow, they'll a crucify you Friday,
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and they will hang you Saturday and pray for you Sunday.
So we got to stay obedient to the call. Your
endurance determines what it's reported through you. Yeah, So we
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got to stay faithful even when we're not seeing.
Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
God Almighty, even when we're not seen, Oh.
Speaker 4 (01:18:18):
My God, but Heaven, but listen Heaven, Oh God, course, sister, yes,
because there are some rewards that only Heaven can repay.
There are only some offerings that God, that that only Heaven.
Speaker 5 (01:18:35):
Can give you back. There are some things only Heaven
can pay you for.
Speaker 6 (01:18:41):
Right, and so yeah, yeah, good, so good, Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
First of all, I have to say thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Can y'all put y'all virtual hands together and clap them
for this woman of God, for this courageous Apostolic woman
coming on here and sharing her heart with us on tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
This has been phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
And to everybody that is watching us on tonight and
getting ready to close Apostle, can you just share some
final encouragement to some of the women that are watching
them tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
You know, those that.
Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Are ready to build legacy and they don't know where
to start. Can you can you just give them some
point in us where can they start on building legacy?
Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
Start with I'm gonna say this, start with you, start
with assessing yourself. Start with with knowing, okay, exactly where
am where?
Speaker 5 (01:19:39):
Where am I?
Speaker 4 (01:19:40):
In this process, what is my condition?
Speaker 5 (01:19:44):
What is my true condition?
Speaker 4 (01:19:46):
Because how you start is what is gonna look like
through the process. Is there any any any fear that
I have not addressed any any area in my life.
I'm taking it back to self. I'm taking it back
to self introspection because that's what's going to that's the
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strength of what this is. Through God and making certain
that we love and making certain that our love walk
is present, and making certain that we have said yes.
Speaker 5 (01:20:19):
To the mandate that God has given us, not to
what we like, not to what we prefer, not to what.
Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
We thought, but really truly saying yes to what God
is requiring of us, and connecting ourselves and being connected
to whom God has connected us to and being submitted
because the A any way hopes that we go uncovered
and unsubmitted. Yeah, So find your cover, find your place
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of safe so He can birth you out and birth
you forth so that others that are birthed out and
birth forth through.
Speaker 5 (01:21:02):
You are not harmed.
Speaker 4 (01:21:04):
They're not deformed, they're not uh, they're not full turn.
Speaker 5 (01:21:09):
They don't come forward not being full turned.
Speaker 4 (01:21:12):
Why know that at this time where God is breakful,
Lord raising you up for reformation, discerning the times and
diseases concerning you, your family, your ministry, your business, everything.
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It's about stewardship. Yes, it's about stewardship.
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That's so good that there's a continuity.
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But I believe the Lord. I believe, even with tonight
being pressed and being pulled from this place, there is
a mandate for multiplication.
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There is a.
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Mandate to come out of selfishness, to come out of
self preservation, to come out of fear, to come out
and down, to come out of all of those things
that keep our hands tied and downd to what we
have done and not what God is calling us or
mandating us too in this hour as apostolic women.
Speaker 5 (01:22:15):
Yeah, wow, the grace to build is upon us.
Speaker 9 (01:22:20):
Yes, yes, he once that one wants to build, He
wants to expand and increase through us, or we simply
have to yield and surrender and allow.
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My God, oh my, this has been so good.
Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Listen, some of you may be watching on tonight and
you're saying, how can I stay connected to a possum? Michelle,
First of all, I just want to thank God for
you on tonight for pouring out with so much grace,
so much authenticity, so much revelation. The word tonight has
challenged every last one of us to think beyond ourselves
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and to really be intentional about us, you know, leaving
a lasting legacy and impacting the generations that.
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Are to coming.
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So we thank God for you, we celebrate you, we
honor the legacy that you're building in the.
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Kingdom of God.
Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
And so tonight, if there was anybody that wants to
be able to stay connected to you, and they want
to be able to follow you and follow your ministry
online or elsewhere, can we want to share your information
so that they can stay connected, and so can you
also share ways that people can stay connected to you
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and share your upcoming events that are upcoming so that
they can get in there and get some of this
word in person.
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Yes.
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Well, Currently, the Prophetic and Apostolic Company we meet every
thirty Thursday where we're training and cultivating and activating. I
also have a transitional ministry for apostles and properit as
leaders are in transition who are looking for accountability and
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covering and all of the things being established and developed
healed so that they can be reconnected to the body.
Speaker 5 (01:24:14):
You can get that information via the email I am on.
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Facebook as well as well as on uh TikTok so
all of those places. This Thursday coming up, we will
be with doctor Shunika Small, the Apostolic and the Prophetic
Roundtable and which will be gathering where there is a
time of impartation, a release of what Heaven is doing
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and releasing in the earth. As it is in Heaven,
so shall it be in the earth. That's the theme
this Thursday is let Heaven Come. There is no.
Speaker 5 (01:24:54):
Fee to attend.
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Come ready to receive from from from from God.
Speaker 5 (01:24:59):
We encourage you as you come out.
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You can bring your prayer shaws, your show far, your
dance guardment. We will have you know, prophetic artists just
bringing back the full measure of what it.
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Is to flow the apostles in the profits.
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I'm flowing together from revelation to establishment and so that's
what we see going forth on those nights, strong training
and development and impartation.
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A man Amen, And once again I want to put
this information up on the screen that you can connect with.
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Apostle Michelle.
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Her email address is Profertsmachelle gas at gmail dot com.
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Facebook.
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She's on Facebook as Michelle Green guests and on TikTok
as ap Michelle guests, get in there, get this word
and listen. You see the flyer for the upcoming revealed.
Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
Amen.
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We want you to get in there if you're available,
and even if you not, make yourself available so you
can get this word. The address is on the fly
of thirty one on two East Lake Avenue in Tampa, Florida,
and you.
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You will not be sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
Get any here soon that you can get and be
a part of this prophetic roundtable.
Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
This is round seven.
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My God, Hollylujah, Jesus.
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This is amazing. This is that legacy, that is legacy.
Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
Can we thank God again for a possible Michelle, is
there anything.
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That you want to share with us before we go?
Have you?
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Have you?
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Do you feel like you have sufficiently shared everything that
you wanted to share with us on tonight, because I
don't want you to leave here without sharing every thing.
I believe, I believe, I'm poor to the manager that
God has poured into me.
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Yes, I sense the release and thank you for the opportunity.
Speaker 8 (01:26:56):
I will.
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I'm gonna get with it.
Speaker 4 (01:26:58):
Because you know, my notes be all over the place.
So she's very organized. So we can kind of put
them together, and because I one of the goals my
upcoming goals is I'm not a book every thirty days, but.
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I want to become more.
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Proficient and making certain that I am having material to
go along with these trainings because they're very intense.
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And one of the.
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Things that I did a couple of weeks ago is
exactly what you said.
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I went through my journals of all of one.
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Of one particular session that I taught and created a
devotional journal from it. And so I've been going through
all of my notes, my teachings and different things like
that because I've got to get this information in books and.
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In manuals as a part of my legacy.
Speaker 4 (01:27:49):
So thank you so much for that push. And they
was like, go go all the reach. Yeah, we love
you and we thank for you. Yes, ma'am, we honor
the Lord for you.
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Amen, and again, let's thank God again for Apostuma Michelle.
Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
We honor the Lord for her being with us on tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Let's said, and don't forget we are still really just
getting started. We honor the Lord for all that was
poured out on tonight. Thank God for apostom Michelle. Can
you clap your hands again for her and for the
grace that is upon her life and for all that
she has shared with us. Listen, we are really still
just getting started. We got a couple of weeks left.
Next Tuesday, we're gonna continue the Courageous Apostolic Woman Broadcast
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with another dynamic guest, and our theme is really gonna
stir you up again. We know that it's gonna touch
you where you are. We want you to join us
on next week with my guest, doctor Kimberly Michelle the
Purpose push up Holley Lujah, and we are gonna be
discussing courage in the face and that versay, how do
you be you still remain a courageous Apostolic woman when
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you are facing adversity. So we're gonna be talking about
how to overcome fear and reject action and resistance right
that comes to try to silence you in ministry and
in business.
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And so you don't want to miss this.
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We just thank God for everything that the Lord is
doing and all that has been shared with us. Again,
I just want to say one more time to those
of you that in the Tampa Bay area, don't forget
to get over here to the Revealed Apostolic and Prophetic
Roundtable Round seven.
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Let Heaven come. You don't want to miss it.
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Thursday, October sixteenth at six thirty pm.
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We want you to be there. Don't forget also about
towels over titles. You want to meet us in Ruskin
on Friday and Saturday. It's gonna be a great blessing.
Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
And you can today go onto Amazon and get your
copy of Every Day Overcome Us so that you can
get these battle drills and overcome all of your battles.
This book is for man and for women. It's not
just a woman's book. This is for ever readbody. So
until next time, remember that God God is raising up
courageous women who will not bow to intimidation or limitation.
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You were born to lead, to multiply, and to leave
a legacy.
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That brings God glory.
Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
I am Apostle, doctor fran Stubbs, and this has been
the Courageous Apostolic Woman broadcast. Stay bold, stay faithful, and
stay courageous. God bless you and we will see you
next week by God's grace at eight pm Eastern Standard
time right here in Jesus' name, have an amazing
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Evening, Institute at from the ample Fen s Tra
What great mercy and peace be multiplied to you from God,
our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Welllcome, beautiful people
of God.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I started to sing a song, y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
No, i'm'na sing a song, right, But we wanna welcome
everybody tonight to the Apostolic Woman's the Courageous Apostolic Women's Broadcast.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Uh. This is our Tuesday Night Live and.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
We welcome you to another powerful addition of the Courageous
Apostolic Women's Broadcast. I'm your hosts tonight, Apostle doctor Frank Stubbs,
and I am beyond excited tonight to have you join
us for another impactful night of revelation station Hollylujah and inspiration.
And so all month long we are celebrating courageous Apostolic women,
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those who have accepted the call of God and are
walking boldly in their assignments. And tonight is no different.
These are women who have defied limitations, Yes they have.
They have stood firm and are advancing the Kingdom of God.
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With power and purposes.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
So I'm excited tonight because we are continuing our series
and we have a powerful, great woman of God that
is going to join us that's here already in the
studio joining us tonight.
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And our theme on tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Is building legacy Apostolic women who multiply, and so tonight
we are going to be talking about women who don't
just lead, but they multiply, right, women who are raising
up others. They're not thinking about just themselves, right, but
raising up others, pouring into the next generation, and leaving.
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A legacy that will outlive their name.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And so it just gives me such joy and honor
to be able to welcome.
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My special guests on tonight.
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She is a woman of vision, a woman of grace,
a woman of generational impact. I'm excited that tonight we
have Apostle Michelle Green guests.
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Who's gonna be with us.
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Let me read to you a.
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Little bit about her off of her bio before we
bring her on screen.
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Okay, because she is a.
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Mighty woman of God, and I want you to know
who is gonna be sitting in your presence on tonight
as you are receiving. So I want to take a
minute before I creately start reading her bio. I want
you to tag somebody, call somebody, tell another courageous Apostolic
woman that is sitting around doing nothing tonight tell her
she gotta get on and get on this broadcast on tonight.
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But Apostle Michelle Guests is a wife and mother, an author,
and a transitional coach that has a unique journey.
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What initially seemed.
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Like situations of hopelessness and despair due to years of
abuse have over the years transformed her into.
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A woman of the woman of God.
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She is today currently Apostle Michelle service as the lead
prophet at the Center of Center for Manifestation.
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I know how to say the church name breaks the Lord.
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Center for Manifestation.
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It is staff on manifestations worldwide under the leadership of
Apostle doctor Mark T.
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Jones.
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She is founder of Reviving the Stone, Apostolic and Prophetic
Company of Profits. She has been commissioned to raise and
mobilize profits and prophetic people through purification, reformation, and revival
for the end times. She aims to uncover gifts and
bring life to areas that seem dead, a testament to
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her spiritual authority and leadership.
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I am so excited. Can you help me? Please, please,
please please please.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Welcome this great woman of God. Apostle Michelle Guests on tonight. Yes, yes,
Holly Lujah, we are so happy to have you tonight.
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Can you please just greet.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Us on tonight and just say a little something about yourself.
I know we read your bio, but just say a
little something about yourself if you would like to, and
then we're gonna jump right in.
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Good evening everyone, and of course, upon thank you so
much for this invitation. I am simply here because of
God's grace. I want to say that I want to
make sure that I communicate that it's clearly the grace
of God that I am still here.
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I am still in my sound mind.
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I am still able to walk out God's plan for
my life. And I desire that anyone who is on
any level of giving up, throwing in the town in
a grave, that I'm able to speak with life unto
them and see them the rest rag and be set
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and established into their kingdom purpose. I'm honored to be here,
and I do believe that God is get ready to
do something supernatural among us tonight, and I'm here for it.
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Glory, Glory.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
We cannot wait, We cannot wait, and so we're so excited.
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And people are coming in.
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Someone watching and.
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Haven't said anything yet, but we know that this can
turn into a very lively conversation, and so we're looking
forward to all that the Lord is gonna say on
tonight through you, and so we want you to just
you know, to let your haird down, let God say
what you want to say on tonight. And so for
those of you who are just popping on, tonight's theme
is building the legacy Apostolic women who multiply, and.
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So this theme speaks even to your.
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Life's work Apossum, Michelle, and some of the things that
you are doing right now in ministry and the things
that I've heard you talk about right raising up leaders
and pouring into the next gen.
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And you have demonstrated what.
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It means to reproduce kingdom impact. So let's jump in
and let's get into this conversation.
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In my thoughts question on tonight this who.
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Has been the greatest spiritual daughter or son that you
have raised up? And what has that experience taught you
raising that son or daughter?
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What is that taught you?
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Listen? I laughed. First of all, I'm gonna answer this question,
but I laughed.
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I was like, the first question is gonna set me
up for the rest of my life here on this
side of heaven, but heads down beyond the shadow of
and now that I've been able to look into the
arsenal of what God has done and allowed me to do,
and I had to sit still and just take in
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everything this woman of God has done and been for me.
And so I had to drop some notes down so
that I stay on course, because I can probably talk
for hours of the great opportunity to Bertha, foreign to her,
walk with her, walk beside her, see her flourished into
her own. So I would like to say, some of
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them know, the woman of God that I'm speaking of
is none other than the prophets, the doctor Shadi Kasma.
I am extremely grateful for her. Listen, it ain't not
been easy, but it's surely been God's purpose and his design.
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So the first thing I would like to say is,
when I looked at the question about the greatest I
went to the scripture and first Corinthians four and two,
and it says moreover, it is required in a store
that they must be found faithful. And one of the
things that as I look into the greatness of who
that she is, that that that's a scripture that I
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can clearly.
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Pay a picture of who she is too, So I.
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Wouldn't say she's the greatest, but I will say this
that she is the consistent one.
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And we know that God measures our.
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Greatness and by our faithfulness and our fruitfulness, and she
does have much fruit accounts to her account. She's not
seeking fame or fortune.
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She's convicted.
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She's convinced, and she's convicted of her covenant purpose in God,
and so being able to pour into her has been
a joy because she's consistently reaching for God concerning the
things of God, concerning what he has said, concerning what
He is saying, consistently just connected to the divine relationship
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of being.
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A daughter enduring.
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Correction as one such as a Ruth is who is
pouring into And we're gonna get so.
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Much more into this.
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A routh that says I'm going with I'm going with God,
in other words, as wrong as I'm with you, because
I know that where I'm going is with God. So
she embodies the vision not only that I that I carry,
but she embodies mind spirited, my compassion to surrender and
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to support my local ministry. So if I'm not present,
she's president, she can stand in my stead. I don't
have to like question if she's going to be able
to execute the assignment. She's she's she's Elishah in the
spirit that she's not trying to abmitic me.
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But as you can see, her own flow is what
she is allowing.
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Herself to be birthed into through her surrender, through her submission,
her presence, her faithfulness, her she's this is a modern
day ruthe I I tied her today as I was
considering her, It's like, how do God loved you so
much when he can give you a modern day Rut
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and a modern day Elijah and the same person.
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To fulfill an assignment in the earth.
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And because she embodies the prophetic vision that God gives me,
there's much that I can speak on that she can
grab it.
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She's a vision runner.
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She is Gods birthday her to be able to continue.
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On the work.
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The work continues through her, the legacy, and I'm extremely
excited about the fact that God has chosen her to
do so.
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I love that.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I love that and this you know what you were
saying of talking about legacy.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
That brings me to my next question.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
So why is spiritual legacy important to you as an
Apostolic leader. You mentioned that word, and I know that
a lot of times people just throw that term around legacy, legacy,
But why is that important to you as an Apostolic leader?
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Okay, So why that's important to me is for a
while I questioned my assignment because I wasn't building buildings
and I wasn't building all of these things, and God
began to minister to me.
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He says.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
The measure of apostolic ministry is not necessarily in every
building that you build, because every person that you're building,
that you're pouring into that you are seeing the heart
of God birth forth in them. They are then able
to go and forth and to expand and to increase
and continue the work in God.
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So I understand that the importance.
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Of that to me is making certain that I'm in
right posture to continue.
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To pour and to the people and people of.
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God so that being built and God's work can continue.
And it's going to ensure that this work continues to
go on. And I never, you know, sometimes you look
at Oh, this is gonna.
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I don't want this work to end. It can't. In
with me, I'm saying, I got a cold is it
gonna go on?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
But this is the heartbeat of spiritual legacy and making
certain that we're pouring and impacting and imparting into those
that's gonna carry it for long after we're transitioned into
Kingdom Heaven.
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I love that.
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I love that because we absolutely know that real ministry
is built on the backs of sons and daughters.
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And so we got to be able to give it
to somebody.
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Amen.
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And so as we were talking about leaving legacy pouring
into others, and I know that this is a big
thing for you, right, how do you intentionally pour into
the next generation?
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The way God uses me is in pouring is and
really truly training up the profits, not just just and
just teaching, but really truly making certain that there is
a spiritual DNA transfer that's taking place in their lives
and not my DNA, the Kingdom DNA, the DNA that
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He has purpose concerning their life and intentionally pouring into them,
making certain that what I'm demonstrating, making certain that the documents,
which is the writings, making sure that all of the
deposits are they are without being self fulfilling for me,
but something that expands the kingdom of God. Yes, yes, yes,
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I love that.
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Go ahead, go ahead? What was you going to say?
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Go ahead?
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Oh?
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I was getting ready to say.
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And not only that, one of the things that I
was thinking about was the prophetic.
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Fire that flows.
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As we're intentionally pouring into the generation, we begin the
sense to see that that prophetic fire starts bubbling and
rolling into them, and then it.
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Becomes important for us to be.
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Intentional and making sure that knowledge proceeds and and matches.
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The fire that they have.
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To continue on the work, because we don't want them
to just be full of fire and no knowledge.
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And no wisdom and no discipline.
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So intentionally making certain that they are grounded, training them
and understanding, Oh Lord, understanding that in.
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Your mantle there is much.
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There is much more than an expression of prophecy or
spiritual healing. It's about establishing. It's about a work that
has to continue to go on. It's about, like O, Lord,
intentionally pooring.
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Knowing that generations are at state.
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Like every every time I got the opportunity to intentionally
sit and poor, whether it's prophecion eco or every profit,
the one thing that is in mind is that reformation
has to be at the end of the conversation that
I'm having with you, because everything has to change when
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you leave from For I believe from my presence for
the better and in God.
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Yes, my God, my God.
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So that's that's that's where I am and believing that
the being very intentional and raising up prophets that are
not only hearing God, but are embodying what move has
to be.
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Established in the earth.
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Going through the warfare, going through the heart, going through
the pain, and still standing in what God said. That's
how we are intentionally pouring into this next generation, not.
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Giving them an excuse to keep calling in siting because.
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They got a headache, but holding them to an accountability
jesulding them into a standard of This is the time
to press, this is the time to wow, this is
the term to persevere, and this is the time to
allow your faith to ignite you and.
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To love that.
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I love that.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
You know we were sharing some time ago in our
Bible study that you know a lot of times we
are thinking that revival is the end result.
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Revival is not the end result we looking for.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
We're looking for reformation. Yes, we're looking for reformation. That
is a powerful statement. And when we understand that. You know,
we're looking for God, by his spirit to reform the
hearts of man, reform our regions, reform you know, the
areas that we are in by us pouring into the
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lives of these that He has assigned to us. That
right there, that's the point. That's what we're here for.
And I love that you share that. I just want
to I mean, you know, I know we got questions
or whatever, but I just want you to hit a
little bit about this kingdom DNA. Can you just explain
a little bit about that when you were sharing about
pouring into them?
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Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
So we know when we look at like in the
natural structure of it, we see DNA. Or I want
to be just like my mama, you know, or I
want to be just like my daddy. You know, in
the Kingdom of God, there is a DNA, there is
an attribute, there is character, there is these levels of tenacity,
there is this conviction that Kateibald has.
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To be birthed.
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And those are the things that we are trying, not trying.
Those are the things that we are seeing instilled with
them when we are teaching through sound doctrine, when we
are requiring sacrifices. When we are requiring prayers and fastings
and continuing the pushing them and to the presence of.
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God so that they learn to hear from them, sit.
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Here for themselves, and move in obedience to what God
has said and spoken to them. So the spiritual dname
opens them up to the Kingdom's revelation, to the kingdom
way of release, to the being able to be used
as a reformer in the layer, because though Christ does
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not change, some ways that he wants to do things
in the virtual change.
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And if they are.
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Birthed and raised up as reformers, they're not gonna have
the confidence to.
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Go forth in God in the way that He is
revealing that to them.
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Listen to me, and this is so good. I want
to holland scream.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
And I know we gotta get these questions and answers
because I want everybody to be able to receive. But listen,
doctor Senay just highlighted what I wrote down here while
you was talking.
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Listen, this cannot be bought.
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It has to be birthed.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Can you tell the.
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People you cannot by conviction. She's a my conviction. You
cannot get it.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
In the prayer line, and this is why.
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And this is why some spiritual sons.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
And daughters are so hard because they by shuttle time,
they have allowed God to birth convictions in them through
them for their assignment, and it birth's jealousy and envy
it from the others, and they're not willing to pay
the Christ that they have had to pay, which is
to be birthed into conviction. Meaning no one has to
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make me do anything that God has given me a
word or a mission or a mandate, whether it's a person,
whether it's a ministry, whether it's a business, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I'm gonna throw this laptop across this room. Oh my God, listen.
And that's a thing. When you start talking about legacy,
you start talking about birth and sons and daughters, you
know that there are those who catch what you're carrying,
and those who are watching them catch what you're carrying
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get jealous enough for carrying it and catching it right
that right there, because they're being birthed out.
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I love this.
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Think about this and think about it. I'm gonna say, Mama,
think about it.
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Apostle, remember when Elisha was under Elijah.
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The company of prophets.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Were on the other side making him because his conviction
says stay close right, but their comfort says stay far away, Jesus.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
So sometimes you have to make certain that your comfort
and keeping you from.
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Your purpose, because your purpose could possibly and your conviction
could put you in harm's way.
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But God, but God, and you could have went on
here and say, Mama, we all know that it's fine.
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Yes, I respect.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I'm trying to respect the broadcast. Loah, I just I
can I just say, I just heard and even as
we were speaking, I just heard the spirit of the
Lord begins a minister that this is the hour where
if you are, If you are, you would yield yourself
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and surrender yourself. He will birth conviction in you for
what it is that he is requirring of you for.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
This next decade. It's going to require a conviction. It's
going to require.
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A conviction because if you are without conviction, you're going
to become a hireland.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
You will be sold to the highest bidder.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
The platform that offers you the most money will get
your attention. She's creature that preach the best will be
able to speak you out of your position.
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Ah Jesus.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
By Sika by Sordia Hostan she's the things that I
have had the honor of knowing and witness that many
people have given, even Shanika indecent proposals, you know, serve
me and ohoh you so cold, and you excel it
and you do a good word and and we can
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use something. But her conviction is, yeah, I know we
may be having a moment, but that's my mama, that's
my leader. That's who are massigned to cover, that's who
I'm assigned to protect.
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And even some people.
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Have said, listen, the line gets drawed if your name
come up.
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But that was birth from conviction, from conviction.
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When she came into my life, it took me a
long time to receive her mm hmm.
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But until God was able to speak.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
To her who she was and who I was, we
had no relationship. Why Why Because I don't need any
more offers than my life. Jesus, if you just want neil,
I can give you that, but don't do it under
the pretest love.
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My God, this is good, this is so so good.
Listen you, she said a very long time man, Jesus, listen,
this is rich because we need this.
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We need this.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Because we're in the hour where there are people aligning
themselves with people because they have a name, because they
have a platform, because there is something that they are
offering to them, right, And what is happening is they
are appealing to the orphan in them, and that is
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how calm they are so easily pulled out into something
else because the enemy speaks to you know what I'm saying,
or uses them to speak to those empty places, those
chasms in you, those those those areas, those voids.
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And so this is so powerful because sonship takes time.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Yes, ma'am, can I say this?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Please?
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Do you? She was not.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
She never called me mom in her orphaned state. It
wasn't allowed. It wasn't permitted in our relationship and in
our atmosphere because listen, I really truly fear God and
my owner God, and so you can't.
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I can't be called mom until.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
That orphan spirit is healed, because the first time correction comes,
I ain't gonna be mom. I'm gonna be Elton. I
was telling my husband the other day, I said, somebody
who called me mom for for for a couple of years,
one word this week, and all of a sudden, I'm
elder to Shelle now, and so I did.
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I didn't they do that? They do that my feelings.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
If I be honest, my little heart was a little
crush because you ain't never did that.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
But guess what I realized, we.
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Didn't work through all of the orphaned spirit that was
on the inside of you. And so I was only
mother while I was appeasing you and not allowing you
to deal with the demons that were laying dormant, rejection
and abandonment and all of those spirits still flowing, which
would hurt both of us in a war.
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Why.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
And that's that's a thing, you know, that place of vulnerability,
that place of putting yourself on the line to be
able to mother, pour into nurture, birth out, you know
all of those things. And it's funny that you said that,
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how that you know it's now you go back to
your title, you know, and it has happened.
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I'm I'm my mother whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
But when I correct apostle, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
And you always know that that posture has shifted, and
you say, okay, take care and this is all good.
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Praise Lord, thank to Jesus.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
But that's a powerful nugget that you just shared. And
so leaders that are listening, y'all need to write it down.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Put it, put put it.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
You know how you drop a pin on your phone
when you get to a location you don't want to forget,
drop a pin right there, that you don't forget this location,
that you don't let people just call you mother just
because you know what I'm saying, and that you don't.
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You don't let that move you, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
And one of the things I.
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Used to say all the time is I'm not enamored
with anybody calling me mother because I know what it
means to birth.
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The child out in real life.
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So I can't be swayed by you calling me my.
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That's not gonna that's not gonna pull me in a
different direction, you know.
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And so that is a powerful, powerful nugget.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Listen, I want to move on to this next question
because we can spend all night on that, because that
what you are talking about has so many layers, so many.
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Facets to it.
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Because we are dealing with this today in this society.
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We're talking about multiplying, were talking about leaving legacy, We're
talking about pouring into the lives of others, and we
have so many people who have not been nurtured Father
mothered in their natural So they come into the church
with these expectations and.
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Then we have.
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To dig out all of this stuff and take them
through deliverance and all of the things you know, and
help them walk through get delivered from this orphaned spirit
so that they can walk in the fullness of the
ministry that God has called them to do.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
So I want to know, so yes, ma'am, Yes, Max.
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Second, for the leaders that are present, that are on here. Yes.
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One of the things that is it is so important
and I had to.
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Walk through this process.
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Is if you try to mother and you of an
orphan spirit and you are of an unhealed place, you
are now trying to give them what.
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You think they need.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
You're trying to give them what you either this or
you think, and it makes it difficult for you to
really sit in the presence of God and receive what
He wants and needs to be delivered into them.
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And so I encourage us. One of my greatest.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Battles even with Welcome with doctor Smill and she'll tell
you she was like, she's she's very little tough now
about it was this mother thing. We got a whole
process now because I know her prep real life went
to a whole nother level.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
We walked through it, but understanding making certain.
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That you're healed, yes, before you're taking on these sons
and daughters.
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That's important, That is so important.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
So what strategies have you used to multiply your ministry
impact as we're talking about raising up sons and daughters
right dealing with being able to make sure that we're healed,
making sure that we are not.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Mothering in the.
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Spirit from a broken place, from our own fra right,
our own mother fractures or father fractures, and different things
in that nature wants what strategies have you used to
multiply your ministry impact deal with all the kinds of
people that you've had to deal with.
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One of the things that one thing that has been
so critical with me for me is remembering that I
am a wife and a mother to those that are
in the in the body of in.
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The church as well as at home.
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So one of the things that I have allowed as
a strategy is for me to remain grounded, to remain balanced,
and to remain grounded to make certain that what to
be important in the ministry I can I can back
it with my husband in the house and knowing that
you know, everybody's receiving what they need to receive, so
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there is no neglect there being supportive, being supportive of
you know, your sons and daughters and.
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Those that you are raising up in ministry be to
memory event.
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But for as many of them as I can, I'm
going to show up. If it's not just showing us,
show my if it's not just showing up in present,
it's how do I plan a seed? If it's not
planning to see, how can I pray it in a seed?
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And powering them to leave.
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One of the things that Apostle taught us early on.
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The ministry is I am not here to babysit you.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I am here to empower you to leave outside of
my presence so that you don't have to keep calling
me asking me for answers to something that you should
already be able to deal with. So one of the
things that that that it's I'm very heavy on is
empowering to lead.
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What are you saying?
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What are we doing? What? What?
Speaker 4 (30:43):
What's your solution to this? How are we flowing in this?
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Well?
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We got this going on to this? What are we
doing and then let me know and we're gonna put
a plan together and starting the vision and not just
being controlling. It's like, okay, you got this role responsibility,
so now I'm a check and verify, but I'm not in.
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The control how it's done, and I do.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Know it needs to be done in God and in
God's spirit. And so those are some of the strategies.
And definitely mentoring intentionally, and that's one of the things
that I highly respect you for is and in the mentorship,
it was very intentional, it was very strategic. I never
sat in your session my first session. You knew what
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God said. I was saying something else, but you was like, no,
this is what God said, this is what this is
or whatever, and it was exactly what I needed. So
I've taken that to make certain that I am mentored
intentionally so that I can have maximum impact. And also
building truck building teams. One of the things that I
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desire is team building. It's where I fought the most
at too, because.
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It is my desire.
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Nevertheless, I'm gonna keep building and serving, whether.
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It's my vision, whether it's my apostle.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Vision, whether it's apostle friend vision, whether it's precious love vision,
whether it's a legal small vision, whether it's whomever, to
my ability, I am.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
That's facts and we can attest to that. We can
definitely attest to that that you definitely love being on
the team and building and putting your hand to the plow.
And we honor the Lord and we honor you for
that because that is something that is commendable, especially in leadership.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
You know, sometimes we get.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Titles and we have this current error that we are
living in where people have titles and they forget that
we are chief servants above everything.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
We are here to serve. And so this was just you.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Know, that's something that is so very important for us
to remember right that we are here, you're to service.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
So I love that you said that. So now let's
talk a little bit.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Go back to legacy again, and what lessons about legacy
have you learned from other Biblical you know, people in
the Bible, women in the Bible, like.
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Debra, Priscilla, or Lydia.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Have you looked at any of their lives and what
have you learned about legacy from their lives?
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Okay, so there's there's there's so many. When I sat and.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
I started meditating, y'all apostle friend, she sent me up, y'all,
y'all sweet apostle. She worked, she she got, she stretched
me on this one. I'm grateful that she did. But
the first woman that I want to honor tonight in
the Apostolic apostle friend stubbs.
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Yeah, Oh, Lord Gez, because as I said, as I
sat and considered, like Sarah, you carried the scene of
promised the births, regardless to whatever condition that we were
in or are in, to bring us.
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To a place of confidence and boldness.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Jesus, So your woman's carried the covenant for spiritual sons
and daughters. Sarah became, she was she she was known
for birthing unusual birthing. I heard the Lord said that
this would be an hour of unusual birth thing for you, Jesus,
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as I was sitting in meditating and said, unusual birthings
proven that God's promise will never depend on your age
and your circumstance.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
So wherever you are, his Jesus outlives it. His promise,
outpaces it, his promise, It outsupports it his promise.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Because this is not about a human timeline, this about
a kingdom word that.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
He is doing through you and the earth, My God,
my goodness.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
And then he said, apostle friend models faith in the
face of frustration.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
And I asked for a scripture, and he says.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Through faith, Sarah herself receives strip to conceive. See Jesus,
there's stripp that God has given you to conceive even
the greater thing that He purposed to release in the
earth through you, Jesus.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Because God has just you, faithful, God.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Mighty, God's alpostolic women. We got to carry faith that
outlass frustration. And that's one of the places that I
was filling in. And he showed me, he said, she's
out blasting it. Her faith is over. She's showing you
the bluebread. She's gonna be frustrating about everything that you
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got going on, but she's showing you how to outpace
it your faith. So that's the first woman that I wanna,
I wanna, I wanna honor in the in in the
word Jesus, Hallelujah, Mind God.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
I received that, Thank.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
God, Jesus, Jesus, hallelujah. And so another woman that that
that Mary, She I don't remember she's on the list
or not, but I'm sitting him, I'm considering these women,
and he began to show me yet again, it was
through birthing in stewardship that that that Mary is now
birthing the apostle into the earth. Oh, and her legacy
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continues on because this was.
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A handmaid of the Lord.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
That he found her faithful, and she is hallelujah. He
finds her faithful to talking about her legacy is so
strong that not only did she birds, she goes to
meet Inlizabeth, and I studied this auth apostle friend that
blew me away.
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She walked eighty to a hundred miles to get to Elizabeth.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Jesus, color Lujah, I'm.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
Studying it out. She stops.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
You're eighty to one hundred miles to get to another
woman to activate what was on the inside of her.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Jesus my God, saying, hother lujah.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
The inside of you cannot die.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Cannot it cannot die, It cannot die.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
And so Jesus.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
And so and so I was like Lord, and he
said the legacy of Mary was so strong because spirit
recognized spirit when she went and colored Luliah. When she
wins the salutation of her voice calls the baby and
Elizabeth to leap.
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Oh God, thank you Jesus.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
Somebody on here tonight.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Our voices are going to cause what's on the inside
of you to leap, and its authentically leap and it's
normal the.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Little lake Dorman in your wound.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
You will not be able to stay still, not that
will you be able to stay silent, because there is
an awakening.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
To coming to you tonight.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Because at the salutation, the earthing is manifesting the conception
when Mary greeted Elizabeth that they believed in her womb.
And guess what that's recognizing a divine prophetic expression taking place.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Jesus, Jesus, Jesus.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
It came to pass that when Elizabeth heard the salutation.
So then look how powerful the legacy is that says
that that that Elizabeth heard another woman, that's a legacy
she heard and what was in.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Her spirit to this woman that's powerful.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
Married didn't just listen Mary?
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Oh God, So Mary is not just come with a greeting.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Come on, it would have.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Just been a hell no, nothing would have happen, my God.
But her greeting and her salutation the baby leaves. That's
representation of God's glory and operation through a vessel who
I've killed.
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Himself to come from Jesus.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
The story started taking place. So this this, this, this, this,
this lady bless me and and it's what it's set
in motion, that prophetic activation and destiny. Because remember John
and Jesus both. John was never greater than Jesus. Jesus
was always the supreme one. But he responded to John
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and allowed him to baptize him. But they already knew
each other because the wound, the wound, something had already happened.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
And that's.
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Come, good boy, Jesus, my heighted God Jesus. So yes,
we can just get lost there. I'm gonna keep on
moving because I know for timesake. And then we started
talking about and then one of the other ones was.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
It was Lydia right.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
The Lord says that she was the Apostolic entrepreneur. Right,
her legacy lives on. I said what he said. She
operated the kingdom.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
Air B and B.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Comeboy here, Jesus, Jesus gave it to me.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Jesus gave it to me.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Wow, because in the marketplace her legacy is going on.
This is why God places us on the heart of
some women of God to continue to open their homes
and and prepare rooms for the women of God or
the men of God.
Speaker 5 (40:52):
Because he's doing something supernatural.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
We know, we know Debora, she was the the apostolic judge,
but we got to remember that she she judged, but
she wasn't judgmental, that her judgment was not from the flesh.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
It was not personal. It was not because I don't
like you, and.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Because I'm gonna say what they said and say that
I saw it ain't seen nothing.
Speaker 5 (41:19):
Lion lying sere And so.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
That's a whole another scenario there.
Speaker 5 (41:25):
Jesus, oh, my God, Jesus than just prophesied.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
She governed, governed, Come on, she governed, she mades right, yes.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
And she in power the one that was supposed to
be leading.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
You better come on here, she empowered.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
Here, here she is exhorting the man of God who
should have been leading the army.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
My god, it's in the Bible.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
So we see that she's she's, she's she's.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
She's got is using her supernaturally here on so many
different levels, as a wife, as a judge, as an encourager,
and someone that's pouring, and someone that's encouraging someone possibly
above them. So one of the things as Apostolic leaders
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in our multiplication, there are times expansion can come through
us for those that we are serving.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Listen, Jesus, Oh my God, Oh my God.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
Sometimes you're sitting on revelation that we've been praying and
asking God to release and reveal to us is in
your wound, but your mouth is silent.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
Come on, come on, come on, Oh.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Lord Jesus, this is so heavy.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
If you have not shared this broadcast yet, I don't
know what y'all are doing.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
You got to share this broadcast.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
There are some courageous Apostolic women that are walking the
beat by themselves and they need to hear this word tonight.
They need to hear these nuggets that are being dropped
in the room tonight because Apossum Michelle is on fire
over here on tonight, and we want to make sure
that as many as can share it in some of
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the groups that you are in, share it on your page,
because she is giving us some words of life that
are speaking to us tonight. No matter where you are
in your walk, no matter where you are in your ministry,
no matter where you are on your journey, these are
things that we need to hear so that we can't
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continue to fulfill what God has called us to do.
Many of us are in different places were raising up
sons and doing us We have you know, have had
to deal with people who have off in spirits. We're
learning how to leave a lasting legacy.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Where you know, we're not just imparting ourselves, but imparting
the Kingdom Dna, like she's talking about, we got to
get this word and we want to.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Be able to share this with as many people as
we possibly can. So please take a minute and like
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be a blessing to the other women of God that
are are Maybe they just sitting at home doing absolutely nothing.
Interrupt somebody and tell them to get on here and
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stop watching some foolishness and the God suffests on.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
YouTube and come on to get this word on tonight.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
They need something that's going to impact their life and
spur them on into the next.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
Place in the Lord that is powerful powerful.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
You know a lot of times we look at the
scripture and we say, oh, I've been inspired by this one.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
As I'm reading the scripture, I've been inspired by that.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
But I love the way that you broke down each
person and what they have done, the things that they
have done that have impacted you, and brought it home
to so that it's relevant for today. This lineal was
like you said, she was an Apostolic Airbnb. She was
one of the Apostolic Airbnb out.
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She was kingdom, she was in the kingdom.
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Love.
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I love it represented marketplace ministry. A lot of times we.
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We we missed that that that is a part of
our assignment. We may not have a physical building, but
our whole becomes an altar. Yes when when when God
requires it, we offer it to him. It becomes a
place where he can he can he can meet and Joel.
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I love it.
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I love it.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
We're gonna ask one more question, then we're gonna take
a quick break, and then we're gonna come back and
ask some more questions.
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But so let's let's look at this next question. Can
you tell us tell me of.
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Women on tonight, how do you handle discouragement? Because this
is a big deal.
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When you are pouring into the lives of others, you
raising up sons and daughters, you are you know, pouring.
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Into the next generation.
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You know, you're giving up your time making sacrifices.
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But how do you handle discouragement when you're mentioning others?
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Right?
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But then they seem like they fall off.
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They don't seem like they're catching it.
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They don't seem like they are getting what you're putting down.
They're not picking up what you're putting down. How do
you handle that? Because it's a real thing. Discouragement while
you're pouring out into others is.
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A real thing.
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Can you speak to the women.
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About that or tonight?
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Yeah, nothing breaks your heart more than to see the
enemy disrupting, you know, kingdom purpose. But definitely, one of
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the things that I've learned to do is I begin
to introspect, to make certain, first of all that I'm
not perfect, but make certain that I'm not part of
the reason of the pull.
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Away, right, you know. And then I remember to not
take it personal. And I know these things.
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May sound simple, but a lot of times, when you're
in that space, it's easy to take it personal. It's
easy to think, Okay, I've done something wrong, or it's
my fault, or I didn't give enough, or and so
I really.
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Just step back and I just stopped taking it.
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So personal, and then I begin to revisit what God
has said concerning them. I begin to revisit I know
that God spoke this word concerning them. I know that
God has revealed this concerning their destiny. I know that
God has said that they're going to walk and go
to these nations, and these lives are going to be
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transformed and change.
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And so that is a part of where encouragement starts.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
Coming in at is because God can't lie. So as
I'm revisiting you know what, Oh God, I think as
I'm Unshundy who in sum Hume, as I'm revisiting what
God has said, it begins to encourage me and knowing
that he cannot lie and he cannot fail.
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And then another thing is to release them.
Speaker 4 (48:25):
And from what has happened, so that that you don't
retain it. And one thing that you taught me is
even in those places, make certain that you are a
safe place for landing. And so I positioned myself to
make certain that even when I'm discouraged, I need to
make certain at any point I need to be a
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safe space for landing.
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Now, you did give me a.
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Permission to not always be a space for landing. But
you did say I needed to always be a safe
space for land and so that's one of the things.
And then without losing focus, because a lot of times
we can love so hard that we will lose focus
on the fact that they are human, that that that
that that the steps of a good man in order
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by the Lord, and that they are traps and enspearming
and and and only loving while they're doing good is
not unconditional love. That's conditional love, and so reevaluating that.
And one thing that I never agree with the enemy
concerning their destiny. I don't care what it reveals.
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I don't care what he says, I don't care what
he has shown me.
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Is it's a practice that I do with my children,
all of them across the board. I will never agree
with the enemy concerning them and their destiny. I don't
care how true it is. In my face, I will
not give you my agreement. And then I refolk. And
then one of the things that's important, and it may
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seem where is you have to remain focused on who's
present at that time, because if they're oh and doing
other things, you have to remain focused on who is present.
You still have to pour on who is present. You
still have to build with who is present. You still
have to prepare for who is present, for what is
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next and what is to come.
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Oh my gosh, are y'all getting this? Oh my god,
I hope you're getting this, because this is a real, real,
did I say, real real thing? You have people who
have given their everything to ministry to people that they love.
But those points that you just that you just you know,
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shared especially that, and somebody just put this up here.
Those who are present.
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Don't forget those who are present.
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You can't be falling out about who walked away or
who's not receiving.
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Who is still there?
Speaker 1 (50:53):
Yes, who is still there while you abhorring, Because sometimes
the enemy will make us look at what you've lost
versus what God has kept in place and in position. Yes,
and that is so so so so so good. Oh
my god, I love I love all of this. And
this is why this is so important for us.
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We need this.
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Look at look at look at Brother Cameron.
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On him, blessen Jesus and make it sure and make
it certain that you don't make the person that's present
paid for the person that left. To make certain the
person that's present, don't have to pay for the pain
that someone else produced or or inflicted upon you. Has
has been a real uh journey for has been a
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real journey from for.
Speaker 5 (51:42):
Me and and and one of.
Speaker 4 (51:47):
One of the spaces that I have had to heal
a lot from is that space of making certain that's
one person that that ain't everybody, Michelle, that's one person's pain.
That's one person's rebellion, that's one person's betrayal. That's one
person's being vindictive.
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That's not everyone.
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Yes, and that's powerful, that one person, not.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Everybody, not everybody. And doctor Schnika just said something right here,
prodigals do return. Can we just take a minute and
just run down this road for a second. I know
this is question is not up on the it's not
in the in the list, but I want to hit
this before we take a little commercial break. Listen, how
do you prepare your son to stay?
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For the son to return?
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That that's that's your journey and.
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Those seasons the come back? Absolutely, and how are you
going to receive them in love?
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Come on?
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And and and how are we you know, how we're
gonna flow and God, God and knowing, Okay, we can
do one or two things. We can walk in fear
and paranoia, or we can walk in faith knowing that.
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No weapon formed against the shop press. The greatest thing that.
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We can know is that God has given them the
green light to return, and so as they return, it's
important that we have been doing the work on the
inside of us so that they are not condemned when
they can return, but they can receive yet again the.
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Love of the Father. I say it like this.
Speaker 4 (53:33):
I had to be willing and I have to be
willing to give you back the knife that you used
the last time, because I can't do this in paranoia.
I can't walk with God in paranoia. So I got
to clean this knife off and give it back to
you and know that no weapon formed against me shall prosper.
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Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (53:53):
It sounds, I mean, it sounds cute, but it's difficult
to give you know, a weapon, because it ain't a
tool when you give it to a perceived enemy. When
you go there and then and trust that you know
that God is going to protect you and learning how
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and doing so even with prodigals that that.
Speaker 5 (54:18):
Sometimes they're not even returning for good.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
Sometimes they're come on and speak this right here, glory
to God.
Speaker 4 (54:28):
And because they're hungry, they're returning because they have a need.
They're returning because they need shelter, but they're not returning
to say, And if we don't know that, then we
set our own selves up. So dessertment is important, and
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self work and self self being self uh preserved, not
self protected, is going to be important.
Speaker 1 (54:56):
I love this so much, and this is why this
is so needed. And I'm loving all the comments and
all the interaction because.
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This is speaking to us.
Speaker 4 (55:04):
We are you know, we may have all dealt with
this in different facets and you know, different ways, but
some point or another, we have dealt with somebody that
we have trusted and they have.
Speaker 1 (55:16):
Done something that we didn't like or you know, or
hurt us or use the knife on us. And then
we got to turn around and give it back to
them and hope and pray and pray, hope they don't
use it again in the wrong way.
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Oh my God.
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And so this is so good.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
And this is.
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Why I believe that the Lord has called this the
courageous Apostolic woman, because it takes courage to step out
into the things that God is speaking for.
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You to do.
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When you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
Sometimes you really don't feel like it, or because you're
worried about the price that it's going to cost you
when you get out here.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
And do it.
Speaker 3 (55:54):
Let me hurry up.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
And just do this. I just want to give you all.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
A quick station identification, really quick, and then we're going
to come back to these questions. So before we continue,
I just want to take a minute to invite all
of you women, those of.
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You that are on here.
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Maybe you're not a part of our depor company, our
Apostolic women working together, our group, if you are interested
in that, I want you to send me an inbox,
let me know that you're interested so that we can
get you in the group. The group is private, it's
not something that we're just posting a thousand things. And
we are all purpose and in purpose. It is about
us encouraging one another. We are right now preparing for
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our mentor mondays, some of us who have gone through
the mentoring training, and we're going to be, you know,
creating mentoring moments inside that group so that we can
be a blessing to one another because there is work
that we have to do. This is a vibrant place
that's online for apostolic and prophetic women so that we
can gather, grow, connect and sharpen one another. Right, It's
a hub for mentorship. That's what it's all about. It's
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about training, prayer, and empowerment. Some of our ladies are
in here that are online on tonight and they are
a part of the Depra company online. So if you're
a woman and you're walking in leadership, ministry or in
business right and you want to be a part of this,
send me an inbox.
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Let me know, because you can't find it if you search.
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For it online.
Speaker 1 (57:09):
I did that on purpose because I don't want us
just to be what everybody else is being there inundating
us with stuff and just you know, posting foolishness and.
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Just just to say that we.
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Got to follow it. That's not what we're about.
Speaker 4 (57:20):
We are on purpose and in persons in purpose, and
so we would love to have you be a part
of our family.
Speaker 3 (57:26):
And while you online, let.
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Me just say this, I want to encourage you to
go to Amazon dot com.
Speaker 3 (57:33):
I had a delay.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
God has given me a mandate that every thirty days,
I am to release a book every thirty days. So
I'm compiling all of my notes. I don't know if
you can see all of my binders. Maybe I'm leading
the wrong way. All of these binders are filled with
my notes throughout the years, and I am com follling
them and I am putting them together.
Speaker 3 (57:55):
So I have a late release.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
And this is a part two to Battle Overcoming, which
was only three chapters. But this one here is a
little bit more. So you can get it a kindle format.
It is called every Day Overcomers, all right, And so
I want you to get ready to win your battles.
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Holly and Lujash.
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If you're tired of feeling overwhelmed by life's challenges, every
Day Overcomers is your field god to winning the spiritual
warfare you face every single day. And so in this book,
I'm giving you bite sized battle drills. We got battle
drills in the book. At the end of every chapter
is a battle drill. And so it's gonna help you
conquer anxiety, offense, temptation, cycles of relapse.
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What are you relapsing in?
Speaker 1 (58:39):
I need you to go to Amazon dot com right,
and even some things in your relationships. Some of us
have relationship conflicts that we are dealing with. I want
you to go to Amazon dot com and get that
book and listen. Friday, Friday, Friday and Saturday, We're gonna
be with my brother Apostle Deandra Douglass out and Ruskin
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and check his life. And we are going to be
there for his leadership conference Towels over Titles, and so
we want to invite you to come and be with
us there. Registration is still open and so you don't
want to miss this move of God. And finally, I
want you to prepare yourself for November's release.
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The book is not ready yet, but the cover is ready.
Speaker 2 (59:22):
So I'm telling you every thirty days when God is.
Speaker 1 (59:25):
Speaking to me about what I got to drop, I
want to drop it here because there are resources that
we have need of. And when I take my last breath,
I'm leaving all this stuff here Hallelujah, Thank you Jesus,
because somebody needs it. And so our release for the
month of November, this book will be ready November eleventh.
Unmasking the Spirit the Absalom Spirit.
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Listen.
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If you have ever dealt with people who have competed
with you, thought that they was there to be you, thought.
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That they was there to take your place, and all
of the things, and all of the things.
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Listen to me. This book is going to bless your life.
Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
And it's not something that's just gonna be talking about
people and tear them down. We're gonna talk about how
you can deal with people who come to you with
hidden mods or motives when you know, how do you
handle when your trust is undermined? How do you recognize
the anatomy of betrayal? How do you recover from the
heartbreak of betrayal when.
Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
You have trusted people?
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You need to get this in your arsenal, So get
ready November eleventh. November eleventh, the book will be ready
in a kindle.
Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Format and and paperback. So I wanted to be able
to share that information with you. You gotta get this,
You gotta get this. You gotta get it. You gotta
get it.
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And so we thank God for all that he's doing.
Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
We're gonna get back into these questions, Amen, because we
want you to be able to receive it. I know
that the hour is moving on, Amen, but I want
us to be able to finish this conversation with this
great woman to God, and I want her to be
able to share with you what she has on the horizon,
what's coming up? And I want her to finish these
questions because I need you all to get so we
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only have a couple more questions. So can you tell
us tonight what's the difference between leaving a ministry footprint
and leaving a kingdom legacy? You talked about kingdom DNA,
Let's talk about kingdom legacy.
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What's the difference?
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Poor lord?
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So, as I said, you know, the first thing I
went back to is Jesus, you know, saying you know
what I'm said about it. And one of the revelations
that came to me is that the footprint represents.
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You were there.
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Yes, yes, yeah, it.
Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
Simply means that that that that was present. But legacy
speaks to the continuation. Yes, And so the difference is
in in in the leaving the footprint is you could leave,
people could know you were there, but it doesn't mean
that it's going to be enough for their lives not
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being transformed or changed or reformed because of those that
have came a step in those steps. Because there should
be a continuation of footprints. Yes, because where my footprints
stop should because footprints should continue. Footprints stop, someone else's
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can continue. So we definitely need to make certain that
we know that it's good to know that we were there,
but just having a footprint there it's not enough. We
have to continue moving on because in time those footprints
may fade away.
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Rain could come, a tax.
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Could come, so many things could come. But the person
that's still carrying it, that legacy of where that footprint
left off at is always going to be about multiplication
is going to always be about the continuation. And so
when we're looking at Kingdom legacy, we're looking at what
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continues when when Mike, when my when I've taken this
last step that I could take, yes, does it become
a memory or does it become an altar a place
where someone we met and they were able.
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To pick it up and continue to move for it.
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We know that that footprint shows prisons, but we know
too that legacy says that this is this is I
think it's like a premise for knowing that we're.
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Going to continue for.
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So I believe the biggest difference in between those is
knowing that, yes, I have a footprint, Yes I have
made a debt, but that's not enough.
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What's important is.
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Have I been able to pour into someone what needs
to continue Jesus.
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In order the birth that change.
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My God, that's good, that's good.
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So can you share with us a story of transformation.
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We're talking about leaving a footprint, leaving a legacy, the
difference between the two.
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Right, can you share a story of transformation about someone
that you have mentored?
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You know, when I think about I thought about that
question and one of the young women that I thought about,
which has been a lot, but I want to kind
of highlight profit precious, precious love. Just recently she she
launched that into her assignment and faith and fashion and
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so being able to mentor her growing up.
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She was a teenager when she came to us, and
and she was something else.
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But when when she came to us through you know,
dealing with you know, the brokenness, the rejection, the not
knowing who she was, seeing her birth forth and intercession,
gaining her confidence in her momentum, and now seeing her
establish what the boldness to establish what God has given
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her out in the fashion and faith arena has been
a very beautiful thing to see concerning her. So that
would be definitely one of the stories of transformation of
seeing her.
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Now from fourteen to fifteen years.
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Old, sixteen in youth ministry and being able to stand
in her office as a profit and being able to
stand in her assignment as an intercessor, and being able
to stand in her assignment as a business owner as
one that can be called upon to be consulted, is
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a very powerful impact because it was not without sweat,
it was not without tears, it was not without resistance,
but it was alone necessary because we are here now
and God is getting the glory.
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Oh my god, wow, wow, God is getting the glory.
We love that, and we know Precious is doing an
amazing job and we love to see that fruit that
is in her life from what you have.
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Been pouring in.
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And we give God glory.
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So what practices help you to stay consistent in reproduction
and discipleship.
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One of them is the discipline to remain in prayer
and study and definitely to remain in obedience.
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That's that right there in itself.
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It's a lot, especially when you're pulled on a lot,
especially when you're peiing a lot, it's important to stay
in that, in that mode of learning, of being poured
into survey so that this never becomes about it never
becomes about you remain an accountable submitting to Dolly oversight
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and mentorship because it's easy to get here and to
believe you don't need any accountability. But some of the things,
some of the assignments I never did complete, is because
where there's lacks of accountability, you do.
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Sometimes you don't sense the need to get it done.
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So you have to intentionally surrender, submit yourself to accountability.
Being deliberate about pouring into others and not leaving, not guessing.
I have to be deliberate about what I am pooring
when I'm pouring, how I'm pooring, because it matters what
one may need a pour into the other one may
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not need a poor into.
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That's the power of reformation.
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One of the things that God was speaking to me
about even concerning the prophetic ministry, is.
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There is we thank God.
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For Kingdom model, but at any given point he can
break away from from what we have done and go
a whole different way safe spirit, the reach has to
be different, and then just being faithful in faithfulness, that's
the way reproduction. You want to people to mirror where
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you are. You got to be faithful yourself. You got
to be showing up. You got to be showing up
when it's inconvenient.
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When it's convenient. You got to show up when you see.
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You got to show up when you ain't seen. You
got to show up when you need it. On the
coor bed, you got to show up when they need you.
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On the sound move because.
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Faithfulness, come on, what it does is it eventually equates
to fruitfulness. Now the fruit on your life is representative
of I am not just saying I'm a servant.
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I'm really truly a servant at heart.
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And we know, multiplication ain't about who serves us. Come on,
it's about who can receive the we just you say,
the DNA. Who can receive spiritual DNA and then replicate
and duplicate and a sling in the earth. You cannot
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do that if you're not being faithful, if you're not
being intentional, if you're not being accountable, and you're not
attending to the disciplines in your life. And one of
the things that is important to is and here what
I've learned is do not build what you ain't ben
assigned to build.
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Come on, oh excuse me.
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In other words, build and don't be borrowing other people's stuff.
Come on, right, so then what we are we remembering?
For what I have to remember from myself is a
lot of times I have to remember.
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Don't follow.
Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
You can follow a tread on TikTok for a laugh,
but it's about to keep them.
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Don't be following no treads.
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It's important that you only build what God is giving
you the build, and don't be borrowing people's stuf because
what they're doing will not work for you.
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What they are doing, well, what work for you.
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Work for you, geezus.
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And and and the last thing that he did, one
of the things that he has been speaking to me
and and and I believe when we were.
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There is about this governing. I have not been able
to shape this.
Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
But he says, when you are governing, this is not
the time for you to be guessing at about anything.
And if you find yourself guessing at times of governing,
then you have not allowed strategy to enter into your
heart and into your spirit.
Speaker 5 (01:10:36):
Before you open your mouth and start releasing.
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Wow, wow, wow.
Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Y'all got that, as Poussel Jones would say, you got that.
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Glory be to God.
Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Let's sen listen, listen, listen, this is my final question.
And and okay, We're going to just release Apostle in
the moment and just let her be able to share
what's on our heart and just be free for a
moment and even share about things that she has that
are upcoming as well.
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But I just want to ask this one last question.
Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
How can women that are in ministry today ensure that.
Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Their influence outlives them?
Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
You know, everybody wants to be an influencer today, you know,
our influencer influence that they're leaving from from doing ministry
following their call because they want to be influencers. How
can they we really want to be able.
Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
To carry this influenced Holy spirit that's given to us.
Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
How can the women who are watching us?
Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Can you give them some pointers on how they can
ensure that they're influence, real godly influence outlives them.
Speaker 4 (01:11:45):
One of the things that is important is as we
have guarded our minds, as we have guarded our minds
and knowing that the king and when kingdom minds at
his present is knowing that that's.
Speaker 5 (01:11:57):
What he wants to see multiplied, not.
Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
Any not like you said, not influencing on anything other
than what does kingdom mindset multiply look like?
Speaker 5 (01:12:10):
In the earth.
Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
If my mindset is multiplied in the earth, what will
it produce my God? And so we have to make
certain that it's like we can, we can, we can.
Speaker 5 (01:12:22):
We can release one hundred ministries.
Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
Under our covering, and none of them got the mindset
of the kingdom.
Speaker 6 (01:12:34):
So mindset matters, not just ministry, not just so you
can have your ministry, not so that you could just
come under, you know, and do those things, but making
certain that the kingdom can be replicated, the Kingdom could
be replicated, not my personality.
Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
Not the way I may speak, not the way my
lack of speaking is right books, that's you, You're you're
talking about it tonight, God mandated you. One of the
things that the Lord asked me a question a couple
of years ago, and I went on a tangent with it,
was if you only had a choice to leave all
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of the wisdom that you have, all of it, are
you going to leave it in a book or person?
Because I was on a mission to find out who
am I supposed to be pouring into because not everybody
going to pick up a book and read, but listen.
And when when I got the question, the Holygos gave
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me like he confirmed it all.
Speaker 5 (01:13:36):
He's like both, he said both.
Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
So, how are we making sure that our influence outlives us.
We're writing books, we're doing the manuals, we're creating the podcast.
We're documenting our wisdom. We are writing out our dreams
and visions. We are making certain that the dreams that
God has given us that we're releasing. We're making sure
that the encouragement or the dishortations that He has given us.
(01:14:01):
We're making sure that the prophetic words that He has
given us for the next generation or the next decade
are being released so that those that read it can
run with it, those that record and listen to it
can know how to function and flow and operate. A
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written voice continues speaking after you have transition. Yes, you
taught me that a written voice, you're a written voice.
Everything you write it is going to continue after you transition.
Someone's going to pick it up and deposit into people.
Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
Yes, don't be talking at people.
Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
You have to deposit invest into people, and sometimes.
Speaker 5 (01:14:53):
That takes time.
Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
Sometimes that requires a level of intimacy that makes us uncomfortable.
Speaker 5 (01:14:59):
Because us we.
Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
Have to make sure that we don't We want to
make sure we don't, you know, run the risk of
you know, being hurt and all of that.
Speaker 5 (01:15:07):
But we can't.
Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
We got to pour into daughters and not and sons,
daughters and sons and not just audiences one of the.
Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Things like oh that's can you say that again?
Speaker 4 (01:15:20):
Poor into this and we got the four into sons
and daughters and not.
Speaker 5 (01:15:24):
Audience just audiences.
Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
God avization, Shadika and I have all the time.
Speaker 5 (01:15:29):
She's like, your daughters need your need.
Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
The poor, and you out here preaching to the nations.
Speaker 5 (01:15:38):
Listens, gonna get what she need.
Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Okay, that's right, these are the facts.
Speaker 5 (01:15:45):
What he needs.
Speaker 4 (01:15:48):
But what that's what he's said. He's like, pour into
your daughters, pour into your sons. Yes you are, you
are called to the nations, But if the nations can
get more from you, then your sons and daughters. That's
the problem. That's a problem because they're at your feet.
Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
Come on, oh my god, hallelujah.
Speaker 5 (01:16:13):
They're at your feet, oh my god. And the only
ray they.
Speaker 4 (01:16:17):
Shouldn't couldn't receive it is if they haven't availed themselves
or opened themselves up to receive it, or submitted themselves
to receive it. So don't make the influence outlives us
is because listen, the world audience ain't gonna take your legacy.
Speaker 5 (01:16:35):
Your sons and daughters are going to take your legacy.
Speaker 8 (01:16:39):
Glory to God, mentor intentional lean raise women and men
who can.
Speaker 5 (01:16:50):
Birth what you begin. Yes, they can birth what you begin.
Speaker 4 (01:16:56):
When we begain revealed, I have two inflicting dates and
God's birthday, and I couldn't say no, God said, Okay.
The continuation is she has to purse what has to
be done because it can't return back to the wound,
it'll die.
Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
In the Oh my God, Oh God, come on, Jesus.
Speaker 5 (01:17:22):
May on these influence live through ruth obedience.
Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Yes, yes, and.
Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
Then lastly it's just stay'll be One of the things
is to stay obedient to the call and not let
the applause of men like Apostle Mark says, remain in
the audience of one because people will applaud you today,
they will persecute you tomorrow, they'll a crucify you Friday,
(01:17:50):
and they will hang you Saturday and pray for you Sunday.
So we got to stay obedient to the call. Your
endurance determines what it's reported through you. Yeah, So we
(01:18:11):
got to stay faithful even when we're not seeing.
Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
God Almighty, even when we're not seen, Oh.
Speaker 4 (01:18:18):
My God, but Heaven, but listen Heaven, Oh God, course, sister, yes,
because there are some rewards that only Heaven can repay.
There are only some offerings that God, that that only Heaven.
Speaker 5 (01:18:35):
Can give you back. There are some things only Heaven
can pay you for.
Speaker 6 (01:18:41):
Right, and so yeah, yeah, good, so good, Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
First of all, I have to say thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Can y'all put y'all virtual hands together and clap them
for this woman of God, for this courageous Apostolic woman
coming on here and sharing her heart with us on tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
This has been phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
And to everybody that is watching us on tonight and
getting ready to close Apostle, can you just share some
final encouragement to some of the women that are watching
them tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
You know, those that.
Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Are ready to build legacy and they don't know where
to start. Can you can you just give them some
point in us where can they start on building legacy?
Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
Start with I'm gonna say this, start with you, start
with assessing yourself. Start with with knowing, okay, exactly where
am where?
Speaker 5 (01:19:39):
Where am I?
Speaker 4 (01:19:40):
In this process, what is my condition?
Speaker 5 (01:19:44):
What is my true condition?
Speaker 4 (01:19:46):
Because how you start is what is gonna look like
through the process. Is there any any any fear that
I have not addressed any any area in my life.
I'm taking it back to self. I'm taking it back
to self introspection because that's what's going to that's the
(01:20:07):
strength of what this is. Through God and making certain
that we love and making certain that our love walk
is present, and making certain that we have said yes.
Speaker 5 (01:20:19):
To the mandate that God has given us, not to
what we like, not to what we prefer, not to what.
Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
We thought, but really truly saying yes to what God
is requiring of us, and connecting ourselves and being connected
to whom God has connected us to and being submitted
because the A any way hopes that we go uncovered
and unsubmitted. Yeah, So find your cover, find your place
(01:20:55):
of safe so He can birth you out and birth
you forth so that others that are birthed out and
birth forth through.
Speaker 5 (01:21:02):
You are not harmed.
Speaker 4 (01:21:04):
They're not deformed, they're not uh, they're not full turn.
Speaker 5 (01:21:09):
They don't come forward not being full turned.
Speaker 4 (01:21:12):
Why know that at this time where God is breakful,
Lord raising you up for reformation, discerning the times and
diseases concerning you, your family, your ministry, your business, everything.
Speaker 5 (01:21:31):
It's about stewardship. Yes, it's about stewardship.
Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
That's so good that there's a continuity.
Speaker 4 (01:21:39):
But I believe the Lord. I believe, even with tonight
being pressed and being pulled from this place, there is
a mandate for multiplication.
Speaker 5 (01:21:51):
There is a.
Speaker 4 (01:21:52):
Mandate to come out of selfishness, to come out of
self preservation, to come out of fear, to come out
and down, to come out of all of those things
that keep our hands tied and downd to what we
have done and not what God is calling us or
mandating us too in this hour as apostolic women.
Speaker 5 (01:22:15):
Yeah, wow, the grace to build is upon us.
Speaker 9 (01:22:20):
Yes, yes, he once that one wants to build, He
wants to expand and increase through us, or we simply
have to yield and surrender and allow.
Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
My God, oh my, this has been so good.
Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Listen, some of you may be watching on tonight and
you're saying, how can I stay connected to a possum? Michelle,
First of all, I just want to thank God for
you on tonight for pouring out with so much grace,
so much authenticity, so much revelation. The word tonight has
challenged every last one of us to think beyond ourselves
(01:22:59):
and to really be intentional about us, you know, leaving
a lasting legacy and impacting the generations that.
Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
Are to coming.
Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
So we thank God for you, we celebrate you, we
honor the legacy that you're building in the.
Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
Kingdom of God.
Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
And so tonight, if there was anybody that wants to
be able to stay connected to you, and they want
to be able to follow you and follow your ministry
online or elsewhere, can we want to share your information
so that they can stay connected, and so can you
also share ways that people can stay connected to you
(01:23:35):
and share your upcoming events that are upcoming so that
they can get in there and get some of this
word in person.
Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (01:23:43):
Well, Currently, the Prophetic and Apostolic Company we meet every
thirty Thursday where we're training and cultivating and activating. I
also have a transitional ministry for apostles and properit as
leaders are in transition who are looking for accountability and
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covering and all of the things being established and developed
healed so that they can be reconnected to the body.
Speaker 5 (01:24:14):
You can get that information via the email I am on.
Speaker 4 (01:24:19):
Facebook as well as well as on uh TikTok so
all of those places. This Thursday coming up, we will
be with doctor Shunika Small, the Apostolic and the Prophetic
Roundtable and which will be gathering where there is a
time of impartation, a release of what Heaven is doing
(01:24:44):
and releasing in the earth. As it is in Heaven,
so shall it be in the earth. That's the theme
this Thursday is let Heaven Come. There is no.
Speaker 5 (01:24:54):
Fee to attend.
Speaker 4 (01:24:55):
Come ready to receive from from from from God.
Speaker 5 (01:24:59):
We encourage you as you come out.
Speaker 4 (01:25:01):
You can bring your prayer shaws, your show far, your
dance guardment. We will have you know, prophetic artists just
bringing back the full measure of what it.
Speaker 5 (01:25:13):
Is to flow the apostles in the profits.
Speaker 4 (01:25:17):
I'm flowing together from revelation to establishment and so that's
what we see going forth on those nights, strong training
and development and impartation.
Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
A man Amen, And once again I want to put
this information up on the screen that you can connect with.
Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Apostle Michelle.
Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
Her email address is Profertsmachelle gas at gmail dot com.
Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
Facebook.
Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
She's on Facebook as Michelle Green guests and on TikTok
as ap Michelle guests, get in there, get this word
and listen. You see the flyer for the upcoming revealed.
Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
We want you to get in there if you're available,
and even if you not, make yourself available so you
can get this word. The address is on the fly
of thirty one on two East Lake Avenue in Tampa, Florida,
and you.
Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
You will not be sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
Get any here soon that you can get and be
a part of this prophetic roundtable.
Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
This is round seven.
Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
My God, Hollylujah, Jesus.
Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
This is amazing. This is that legacy, that is legacy.
Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
Can we thank God again for a possible Michelle, is
there anything.
Speaker 3 (01:26:27):
That you want to share with us before we go?
Have you?
Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
Have you?
Speaker 4 (01:26:32):
Do you feel like you have sufficiently shared everything that
you wanted to share with us on tonight, because I
don't want you to leave here without sharing every thing.
I believe, I believe, I'm poor to the manager that
God has poured into me.
Speaker 5 (01:26:47):
Yes, I sense the release and thank you for the opportunity.
Speaker 8 (01:26:56):
I will.
Speaker 5 (01:26:56):
I'm gonna get with it.
Speaker 4 (01:26:58):
Because you know, my notes be all over the place.
So she's very organized. So we can kind of put
them together, and because I one of the goals my
upcoming goals is I'm not a book every thirty days, but.
Speaker 5 (01:27:14):
I want to become more.
Speaker 4 (01:27:17):
Proficient and making certain that I am having material to
go along with these trainings because they're very intense.
Speaker 5 (01:27:24):
And one of the.
Speaker 4 (01:27:25):
Things that I did a couple of weeks ago is
exactly what you said.
Speaker 5 (01:27:30):
I went through my journals of all of one.
Speaker 4 (01:27:32):
Of one particular session that I taught and created a
devotional journal from it. And so I've been going through
all of my notes, my teachings and different things like
that because I've got to get this information in books and.
Speaker 5 (01:27:46):
In manuals as a part of my legacy.
Speaker 4 (01:27:49):
So thank you so much for that push. And they
was like, go go all the reach. Yeah, we love
you and we thank for you. Yes, ma'am, we honor
the Lord for you.
Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
Amen, and again, let's thank God again for Apostuma Michelle.
Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
We honor the Lord for her being with us on tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Let's said, and don't forget we are still really just
getting started. We honor the Lord for all that was
poured out on tonight. Thank God for apostom Michelle. Can
you clap your hands again for her and for the
grace that is upon her life and for all that
she has shared with us. Listen, we are really still
just getting started. We got a couple of weeks left.
Next Tuesday, we're gonna continue the Courageous Apostolic Woman Broadcast
(01:28:31):
with another dynamic guest, and our theme is really gonna
stir you up again. We know that it's gonna touch
you where you are. We want you to join us
on next week with my guest, doctor Kimberly Michelle the
Purpose push up Holley Lujah, and we are gonna be
discussing courage in the face and that versay, how do
you be you still remain a courageous Apostolic woman when
(01:28:55):
you are facing adversity. So we're gonna be talking about
how to overcome fear and reject action and resistance right
that comes to try to silence you in ministry and
in business.
Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
And so you don't want to miss this.
Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
We just thank God for everything that the Lord is
doing and all that has been shared with us. Again,
I just want to say one more time to those
of you that in the Tampa Bay area, don't forget
to get over here to the Revealed Apostolic and Prophetic
Roundtable Round seven.
Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
Let Heaven come. You don't want to miss it.
Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
Thursday, October sixteenth at six thirty pm.
Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
We want you to be there. Don't forget also about
towels over titles. You want to meet us in Ruskin
on Friday and Saturday. It's gonna be a great blessing.
Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
And you can today go onto Amazon and get your
copy of Every Day Overcome Us so that you can
get these battle drills and overcome all of your battles.
This book is for man and for women. It's not
just a woman's book. This is for ever readbody. So
until next time, remember that God God is raising up
courageous women who will not bow to intimidation or limitation.
(01:30:04):
You were born to lead, to multiply, and to leave
a legacy.
Speaker 3 (01:30:08):
That brings God glory.
Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
I am Apostle, doctor fran Stubbs, and this has been
the Courageous Apostolic Woman broadcast. Stay bold, stay faithful, and
stay courageous. God bless you and we will see you
next week by God's grace at eight pm Eastern Standard
time right here in Jesus' name, have an amazing
Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
Evening, Institute at from the ample Fen s Tra
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