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December 3, 2024 14 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back everyone to the deep dive. You ever find
like a really interesting new product or service and you
just like you need to know what people are actually
saying about it before you like jump in. Yeah. Yeah,
So that's what we're doing today with LeMond doon io.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Oh cool.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
It's this platform for hiring developers, and like we wanted
to go beyond you know, just like the marketing and
like the promises and stuff and get to like the
real nitty gritty.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
So we dug deep into their product hunt page, went
through like all the comments and reviews. They're over one hundred, Wow,
and we're bringing you like the unfiltered truth from actual users.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
That's amazing. I think it's so fascinating because you know,
these reviews, they're not just star ratings, you know what
I mean. They're like actual stories, little mini stories. So
it gives you a really good sense of what it's
actually like to use lemon dot io, like the good,
the bad, and everything in between.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, totally. And like as we were going through these reviews,
we spotted some like really clear themes.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
So one of the biggest ones that kept popping up
was speed. So many reviewers are praising lemon dot io
for like how quickly they can match clients with developers,
sometimes in like less than forty eight hours.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Wow, that's fast. Yeah, it's crazy, right, especially for startups
you know where time is money. Oh absolutely, and you know,
like a slow hiring process can just completely kill their
momentum totally.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
But here's where it gets interesting. Ah, So while like
speed is a huge plus, there are also some concerns
about like how reliable they're vetting process actually is. Oh okay,
so a bunch of reviewers they're questioning like how thoroughly
lemon dot io is actually vetting these developers, and some
even use terms like amateurs, which is kind of horsh

(01:43):
but you know it makes you wonder.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah for sure. I mean it really highlights this key point, right,
Like it's one thing to connect slines with developers super quickly,
but if those developers aren't actually a good fit or
don't have the skills they claim to have, then that
speed just becomes a liability.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
One hundred percent. And then you add in the whole
cultural fit thing, which came up a lot in the reviews. Yeah,
like some people love lemon dot Io's like personal touch
and they're like startup mindset, but others felt like there
was a disconnect, yeah, you know, describing it as like
corporate bullshit.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, I can see that because cultural fit is so important.
Like you can have a developer who's like technically brilliant,
but if they don't mesh with your team's communications style
or like the company values, it's just not.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Going to work. It's a recipe for disaster exactly. So
it's clear that like technical skills are just one piece
of the puzzle totally, and we're seeing like a mixed
bag of experiences here. Some users are like totally over
the moon with Lemon dot Io, and then others are
raising some like pretty valid concerns.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Right, So the takeaway here is like do your homework. Yeah,
don't just take their marketing materials at face value or
like rely on promises. Really dig into these reviews, read
between the lines, and then ask specific questions you know,
about their vetting process and how they actually ensure a
good cultural fit.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
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Speaker 1 (03:30):
He has like years of experience working with all kinds
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to succeed in the digital world. All right, So back
to our deep dive. Okay, let's get into the specifics
of lemon dot Io's vetting process, because clearly that's like
a big question mark for a lot of potential clients.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, let's do so. Yeah, let's get into like the
actual miitty gritty of like how lemon dot io vets
their developers.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, because people want specifics right right exactly. It's like, okay,
you say you vet them, but like what does that
actually mean. We saw like tons of reviewers asking like
straight up questions about this. Oh really, Like one person
even asked, like do they actually do technical tests or
do they just like look at portfolios and do interviews. Yeah,
makes sense, And that's where like these reviews are so

(04:19):
helpful because you get those real world experiences totally. Like,
there was this one reviewer he was a product lead okay,
and he was saying that he was impressed with like
the initial screening process. Yeah, but he felt like they
weren't really digging deep enough into the technical stuff.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
He specifically wanted to know more about how they evaluate
problem solving.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Skills, right, because that's crucial for any developer.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Exactly, Like skills on paper are one thing, but like
how do you actually tackle a real world challenge? That's
what matters for sure, and that's what he was trying
to figure out from these comments.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah. I think a lot of people are probably wondering
the same thing totally.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Oh and then there was this other reviewer, a founder,
and he actually hired a developer through lemon dot io
successfully cool, And he mentioned that they asked him to
like provide this super detailed technical brief outlining like all
the specific skills and experience that he needed for the project.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Oh that's smart.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, and he felt like that really helped Lemon dot io,
like narrow down the search and present him with like
more relevant candidates.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, it seems like clear communication from the client side
is really important.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Totally. You can't just be like I need a developer, right,
You got to It's.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Just not a magic bullet. You got to put in
the work too, Exactly. You got to define your requirements
and like actually communicate them clearly to Lemon dot io.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah for sure. Okay, so vetting is super important, but
we can't forget about the whole cultural fit thing.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Remember all those reviews talk about like personal touch and
corporate bullshit. It just shows you how crucial it is
for the developer to actually mesh with the company culture.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
There was this one reviewer. He was a okay and
he's worked with a ton of startups. Yeah, and he
actually suggested that lemon dot io should include some kind
of cultural assessment as part of their vetting.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Oh that's interesting. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
He was like, it's not enough to just be technically skilled.
You also have to be able to collaborate effectively and
share the company's values.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, because imagine hiring a developer who's like a coding genius, right,
but they can't communicate with the team.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
H total nightmare.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Or they clash with like the company's work style.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, that would be a disaster even if they could
code like a machine totally.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
And that's where those little details in the reviews are
so helpful. Like one reviewer mentioned that lemon dot io
paired him with this developer okay, who was not only
like technically skilled, but also had this like similar get
things done at it time. Nice. Yeah, and he specifically
said that like that shared work ethic made collaboration like

(06:53):
so much smoother, makes sense, and it really contributed to
the project's success.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, it's not just about finding someone who can code,
it's about finding someone who fits your company's vibe.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Well exactly, like their way of working, their.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Values, like someone who feels like an extension of your team.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
I love that. Okay. So now I'm curious about pricing.
Oh yeah, did the reviewers give us any insight into that?

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Mmmm, well, lemon dot io doesn't actually like publicly disclose
their pricing on their website.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah that's pretty common, right, But a.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Few reviewers did mention the cost okay, and it seems
like it's a bit of a sticking point for.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Some really so what are people saying.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Well, it's kind of mixed. Like some reviewers, especially the
ones who had positive experiences, they felt like the pricing
was justified. Yeah, you know, given the quality of the
developers and like how fast the hiring process was. Right.
One founder even said it was more cost effective than
trying to hire in house.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Oh yeah, that makes sense because hiring in house can
be a total nightmare.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
It can be so expensive in time consumer.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Totally, So if lemon dot io can deliver a great
developer quickly, it might be worth the premium for.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Some companies exactly. But then on the other hand, yeah,
we also saw reviews from people who felt like lemon
dot io was overpriced.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Especially compared to other platforms or freelance marketplaces. Interesting. One
reviewer even called it highway robbery wow, which is a
bit dramatic, but it shows you how subjective pricing can be.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Totally. It's all about perceived value, right. If a company
feels like they're getting their money's worth, they're happy, right.
But if they feel like you're getting ripped off, that's
when the problems start for sure.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
And this is where those specific details from the reviews
can be really helpful. Yeah. Like one reviewer mentioned that
lemon dot io charges a monthly fee okay, and it's
based on the developer's experience level and the scope of
the project.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
That makes sense.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, and he also said there were no hidden fees
or surprises.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Oh that's good to know.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Transparency is key, totally.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Okay. So we've covered speed, vetting, cultural fit, and pricing.
M what about support?

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Oh yeah, good point.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Did the reviewers mention anything about lemon dot Io's customers.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
They did, and again it was kind of mixed.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
So some people praised lemon dot io for having a
really responsive and helpful support team.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
They talked about quick response times, yeah, personalized attention and
just like a winningness to go the extra mile to
solve problems. That's great, right, because you want to know
that if something goes wrong, you're not just left hanging exactly.
But then, of course, there were also reviewers who had
like the opposite experience. Yeah, they complained about slow response times,

(09:32):
difficulty getting in touch with the right people, and just
a general lack of follow through on issues.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
That's so frustrating, it is.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Especially when you're already stressed out because something's.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Not working exactly and then you can't even get a
hold of anyone to.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Help you, right, It just adds insult to injury totally.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
So it seems like even the best companies can have
inconsistencies with their customer service.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Sure, it's all about managing expectations and understanding that things
don't always go perfectly dred percent.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Okay, so we've heard a lot from the clients, but
what about the developers themselves?

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah? Good point. What's it like to be on the
other side of the platform?

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Right, Because a platform like LeMond die io is only
as good as the developers it attracts and retains.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Exactly, So let's dive into the developer's perspective in the
next part of our deep dive. Okay, so let's shift
gears a bit and like look at things from the
developer's side. Yeah, what's it actually like to work with
lemon dot io from their perspective? Right?

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Because at the end of the day, a platform is
only as good as the talent it can attract and keep.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Totally, So, what did we find in the reviews about
like the developer experience?

Speaker 2 (10:40):
M Well, it's kind of a mixed bag, to be honestly. Yeah,
kind of like what we saw with the client feedback.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
So some developers are loving it, some are not so much.
Pretty much, what are like the main things they're praising
and the things that are like sticking points.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Okay. So one thing that came up a lot was
lemon dot Io's communication and support. Oh okay, we like
a lot of developers said the team was super responsive
and helpful.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, throughout the whole process, from like applying to onboarding
for a new project. One developer even said that working
with lemon dot io felt more like a partnership. Oh wow,
than like a typical client contractor relationship.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
That's awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
It seems like they really prioritize building strong relationships with their.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Developers, which is so important.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah. You got to have that trust in mutual respect totally.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
And it sounds like that focus on relationships extends to
the types of projects they offer too.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, for sure. Several developers said they liked that lemon
dot io gave them challenging and interesting projects.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, like stuff that actually aligned with their skills and
what they were interested in.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Makes sense.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
There is one developer he specializes in machine learning. Okay,
and he was super happy because lemon dot io helped
him find this project yeah, where he got to like
really push his skills to the next level. Nice and
work with cutting edge technology.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
That's awesome. It's like the dream totally finding projects that
are not only like paying the bills, but also like
intellectually stimulating.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Exactly and helping you grow as a developer.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, it sounds like lemon dot io is doing a
good job at like matching developers with the right opportunities.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
I think so for the most part. But we did
see some reviews from developers who weren't so happy with
the matching process.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Oh no, what happened?

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Well, some of them felt like lemon dot Ier wasn't
really understanding their skills or preferences, and they were getting
presented with projects that just weren't.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
A good fit. Yeah. That's a bummer, right.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
It's like you're excited to find something new and cool
and then you keep getting these offers that are either
like beneath your skill level, right or just not at
all what you want to.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Be working on. So frustrating.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, and that kind of mismatch can be a waste
of time for everyone involved. Totally, one developer even said
he felt like just a number in their system. Oh well,
like they weren't really seeing him as an individual. It's
not good an ideal.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
So it seems like platforms like lemon dot io they
face this challenge of balancing automation with personalization. Yeah. For sure,
they need to be able to match developers with projects
quickly and efficiently, but they also need to consider each
developer's unique skills and preferences.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Absolutely, it's a tough balance to.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Stric for sure, but it sounds like lemon dot io
is at least aware of this issue and trying to improve.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, that's the good news. Okay, we saw a few
comments from developers who said they had bad experiences at first,
but then lemon dot io actually listened to their feedback.
Oh that's great and made changes to the matching process.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
That's encouraging.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, it shows that they're open to learning and growing.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
It's all about continuous improvement exactly.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Okay, So I think the big takeaway here, whether you're
a company looking to hire or a developer looking for
new opportunities, do your research, ask the right questions, and
be ready to communicate openly and honestly.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
It should advice.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Platforms like lemon dot io can be super useful, but
they're not magic, you know.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
It's about finding the right fit for.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Everyone exactly, both in terms of skills and like that
cultural compatibility.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, and the tech world is changing so fast these
days all the time, so it's more important than ever
to stay informed, be proactive, and find platforms and resources
that like, align with your values and goals. Absolutely, we
hope this deep dive into lemon dot io reviews is
giving you some helpful insights and maybe some things to
think about. Yeah. Remember, the best decisions are informed decisions,

(14:34):
So keep exploring, keep learning, and keep diving deep until
next time.
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