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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, welcome back to the conversation. What do you say?
We do? Some pod crashing Episode number four hundred and
two is with Danielle Robe from the podcast bookmarked.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Good morning, I'm good. How are you feeling?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Absolutely fantat Oh? I like that? How are you feeling that?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
That?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Right there is how you start a conversation because so
many times when we go into pablake and hey dude,
what's up? Hey man, you're doing good? I mean so
when you when you physically say feeling, it's like, Hi,
how are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah? Oh, I love that because you just made fun
of all these like big burly dudes. That was hilarious.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
So in putting together a podcast like this, what goes
into it? Because you've got so much compassion in your
vocal tones. I mean, now, right there is something that
really is very inviting because you really do step into
a person's heart.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Oh my goodness, what a kind thing to say, thank
you you made my morning. You know, I think I
learned compassion from great books. I always say, great books
and great shoes have one thing in common. They taking
places and it's almost like a portal, right, Like they
take you across continents. They can take you into love
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stories or breakup stories, and I learned about other people's
experiences through great writing.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So do you feel like that you are what I
call a silent wolf. We kind of stand on the
sidelines and we view, watch, study, and activate life.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Oh yes, are you a silent wolf too?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yes, ma'am? I am.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Oh yeah. I you know my dad. I was just
home in Chicago for Fourth of July and my dad
was telling me that he watches me in social situations
and he sees me observe before I jump in. And
I think I've always been like that. I don't know,
maybe we're just wired that way.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Are you a cancer? What is your sign?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I'm a Capricorn and I always date cancers. We're good opposites.
What are you?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I'm a cancer?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Oh? I love it. You guys are so I Actually
I always think cancers bring the best out of Capricorns
because you help We have a little bit of a
hard shell and you help us come out of that.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
But isn't that because of patients? And isn't that what
you talk about on this podcast? The lifestyle of your heart?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Oh that's so nice. You know. We talk about all
different types of things because Reese Witherspoon is the one
who picks books every single month for Reese's book Club,
and she really makes it a point to pick diverse stories,
diverse meaning from all walks of life, all backgrounds, all interests,
and so you know, she'll pick something like First Lie
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Wins by Ashley Elston, which is a mystery, and I
read it in one flight to Atlanta. I could it
was the only time in my life. I thought, I
want this flight to be longer. And then she'll pick
something like fair Play, which is by Eve Rodsky, or
From Scratch, which is by Tim Block and it's set
all the way in Italy. I think she just she
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has such a knack for picking stories that move quickly.
People just sink their teeth into them.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I'm blessed with the opportunity to talk with a lot
of book authors that are always searching that nah from
book clubs and things like that. What is the secret, sauce?
I mean, even my last book, it's a book about
John Lennon, so I decided to put it in poetic form,
fifty three pieces of poetry that happened to turn into
a book. But how do you get people like Reese
withersoon to really tap into it.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Ooh, you asked such amazing questions. I see why you
are where you are. You are an amazing conversationalist. I
don't know if there's one way. I think that everybody
has their own style, and I know that's sort of
a boring answer, but what I have noticed is that
these writers, oftentimes, even when it's fiction, they'll write a
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lot from their personal experience. And so I think the
best thing a writer can do is to go out
and live.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Oh my god, You're so right about that, because when
I'm talking with US soldiers, they will sit there and
create these amazing, you know, just very action packed mystery novels.
And I'm going, where did it come from? Well, when
I was in Afghanistan, or I was I was in
a cr Iraq, and I'm going, oh my god, something
evil had to happen in order to bring something like
this together.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Absolutely, this is such a nerdy thing. I'm about to
tell you, but I just host the World Happiness Conference
and the first speaker was this guy, doctor Dan Tomasulo.
He was a psychologist, and his whole talk was about hope,
and he said, hope is the only positive emotion that
requires a negative emotion ahead of it. And I love
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that idea that you just shared that something bad or
frustrating or hard had to happen to have this incredible
thing happen.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
You know what's really interesting about that word hope? I
just did some research on that, and I because I'm
always trying to figure out why do people want to
live in their past when the future really is wide open?
And it's states that because hope isn't there. It's not there,
but there's hope in your past, and it's like, my God,
but there is hope because I hope today is a
greater day than yesterday.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
One thousand percent. I've never heard it put that way.
I've always thought of hope as sort of this glimmer
of light, And so if you're looking down the barrel
of a tunnel, you don't necessarily know how you're going
to get to the end of it, and it could
take you a while, it could it could be really hard,
but you still see that light and you know that
when you get there, you'll be better and stronger for it.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Do you feel that way when you go into a
podcast because you do not know what's on the opposite
end when you shut off that microphone.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I do. And you know, I go into podcasting I'm
curious to know what you do. But I go into
podcasting prepared to be amazed. And it's like, no matter
who I'm talking to, I'm constantly amazed by people, whether
it's their knowledge, their heart, the things that they've been
able to overcome. I just feel like the human spirit
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is incredible.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I feel cooking. It's the same way when I step
inside that kitchen with my wife, I have no clue
as to what I am doing. I will cut myself
with that knife every single time. But it's like, yeah,
but this food tastes good.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
How does she feel about that?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
We laugh. We sit there and laughing about I mean,
it's so funny because our dog is in the kitchen
with us, and my birds are right there too, and
we're all it is such a family moment. Please do
not move. There's more with Danielle robe coming up next. Hey,
thanks for coming back to my conversation with Danielle Robee.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So let me ask you. Are you a reader? Did
you grow up reading?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I read that I'm a reader only because I'm a
broadcaster and I have to know everything. I've got to
know everything and that. And so people go, who are
you writing to? I'm not writing to anybody. I'm feeding
my brain.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
MM. Do you feel like you've expanded your either worldview
or your empathy through reading?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yep. Yeah, which which is one of the reasons why
when I sit down with school teachers, I say, please,
don't teach reading. Teach them to write. They've got to
They're taking in, but they're not releasing.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
You know, it's interesting you say that, because I do
think that it's we read other people's stories, but it's
really important to not forget to write your own story.
And there is something so cathartic about just getting it
out onto the page, even if it never goes anywhere. Well.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
See, that's why Dolly Parton said that that writing songs
is no different than handing out a newspaper. You're sharing
a story that happens to go from this mountain city
to this mountain city. M.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
You know you just brought up the Queen.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah. I love her so much.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
We do too. You know, Reese I think has such
a love for Dolly Parton, but she's done. I've never
seen such a philanthropic musician.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
She was in the building at iHeartRadio, and I was
maybe one hundred feet away from her, but I didn't
have the courage to walk in that direction. I felt
like she didn't come to me, she went to them.
I have to stay away from their space.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Oh wow, when you were a little like starstruck.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I will just her being in the building. I was starstruck, which.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Is funny because you talk to everybody, so for you
to feel that way, she must have some sort of
power she did.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I think it's your aura. I think I really did
wherever she goes. I mean, did you see that video
yesterday that was posted that's gone viral where she told
that person in the audience to shut up. I thought, oh,
my god, that's my girl.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Hilarious. I haven't seen that.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Oh it's so funny. She handles it like a like
a true comedian handling a heckler.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You know, she does have such a good sense of humor.
I've always noticed that. But yeah, that's so true.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
You know, even with you working with Reese Witherspoon, Reese
Witherspoon and Dolly Parton to me are twelve feet tall,
but I know for a fact they're not.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's true Reese is actually of like a tiny little package.
You know, so many actors are. It's funny, don't I
always say that about Tom Cruise.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, that's why. It's because of Tom Cruise. And I
told people I said I didn't make it in Hollywood
because I'm too tall.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah. You know though, my grandmother used to say that,
And this is such an embarrassing quote, but she used
to say, if a man stands on his walad, he
could be the tallest man in the room. And with
Reese Witherspoon, I think if she stood on all of
her books, she'd be the tallest woman in the room.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Absolutely. So when you report and you do these book clubs,
do you feel the knowledge are you writing? Let me
ask you that, because I've been a daily writer for
thirty two years. Are you utilizing the power of the pan.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
One thousand percent? I'm executive producer on the podcast Bookmarked,
and so I write all of our introductions and I
collaborate with our producers. But so much of me and
my writing is in this podcast. I'm writing our questions.
I think that I'm better on air if I'm doing
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the writing off air. Do you feel that way.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Well, that's the way I was trained in radio, write
the stuff down, then take it over a thirteen second
song intro exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And you know what, Barbara Walters always said that too,
that she would She was known for preparing all these
note cards over and over and over again and reordering
them and deciding which questions matter most, and then she'd
get into the interview and almost and throw them all away. Basically.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Well, see, I had a serious wake up call when
I was when I was talking with Leslie West from
the group Mountain and we were talking about his album,
and he goes, you didn't even listen to my album.
You didn't prep for this at all. Why am I
even talking to you? And I thought, oh my god,
I just got busted.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah. Well it's hard to because you're doing a daily show.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, but it's different. Yes, a show, it's a performance.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
It is a production.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Is Wow, Where can people go to find out more
about you?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Oh? Thank you for asking. I'm at Danielle Robe, Roba
y and Bookmarked is airing anywhere you can get podcasts.
We're in production with iHeartRadio and Hello Sunshine. So it
is really the best of the best.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Wow, you are such a brilliant talent and person.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Oh my god, I feel the same about you. I
have to tell you, out of all the conversations I've
had today, I've enjoyed this the most. You're incredible at
what you do.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Thank you so much. Please come back to this show.
Then the door is always going to be open for you, Danielle.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Thank you. Careful what you say to me. Oh and
they bed knocking.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I have talked to every member of def Leopard at
least twelve or thirteen times, So come on. If they
can do it, you can do it.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Okay, I need that cancer energy. I'll be back.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Be brilliant today. Okay, you too.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Take good care.