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Training your brain to Thrive rather than just Survive is a transformational process of reimagined life without the pain of the past. It’s not pretending that nothing happened, or you’re not burned out, but it’s transformation of your thoughts and life patterns. Your focus is more on joy instead of being stuck in an old system of so-called norms and criticism. If we processed life through our power and potential and not our pain and past traumas, we could find inner peace and achieve our dreams.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
Hello, and thank you for tuning in to A Sharp
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I am Angela Sharp, your host our arm chair discussions
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to be your best self.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
Hello, I'm Angela Sharp, and thank you for joining us
here at ah Sharp Outlook. I'm going to ask you
a question. Are you thriving or are you just surviving?
Just doing whate'er you're going just to survive the day.
Training your brain to thrive rather than just survive is

(01:16):
transformational process of reimagined life without the pain of the past.
It's not pretending that nothing happened or you're not burned out,
but it's a transformational thought of transformation of your thoughts
and life patterns, that your focus is more on joy

(01:37):
instead of being stuck in an old system of so
called norms and criticism. If we process life through our
power and potential and not our pain and past traumas,
we could find inner peace. Imagine that that's a goal
and achieve our dreams. Imagine feeling heard and understood. Learning

(01:59):
to process negatives and appreciate the positives in our lives.
We pro that we focus on the wrong stimulus and
beat ourselves up for not being the perfect dream or
someone else. Don't ever try to be someone else. Be you,
be authentic. We need to learn how to start thriving

(02:21):
and finding joy of living. Today is a good day
to make a start. How about that Today I have
my guests Rashida and Dustin Dean and they are here
as my guest to tell us how that we can
start thriving instead of just getting by, instead of just surviving.

(02:44):
Dean is a nationally certified psychiatric mental health nurse practitioner,
transformational coach, and founder of mind Maxed Institute, a mental health,
wellness and brain fitness platform built for high achieving professionals, educators,
and individuals seeking real, lasting change. With over twenty years

(03:06):
of experience as a prescriber, psychotherapist, and professor, Dustin is
known for delivering coaching experience that's as clinical as it
is compassionate. He helps his clients do more than just cope,
but helps them thrive rather than just survive. Brain Fitness
is a science back system that trains the mind to

(03:29):
process life through power and potential rather than pain and
past remembrance. He offers one on one coaching sessions or
cohort based group experiences. Through the Mind Max Institute, Dustin
is redefining what mental wellness looks like, less about diagnosis

(03:52):
and more about momentum. This program is built for developing
communities of leaders working towards joy optimization and max and
maxed mental wellness outcomes for themselves and the individuals they
are committed to serving in their chosen professions. And we

(04:13):
also have Rashida Dean, a family life coach and women's
empowerment strategists over fifteen years of experience, currently serving full
time with nationally recognized Jeremiah Program. While she specializes in
supporting women, particularly minority mothers and those navigating complex life transitions,

(04:37):
she is equipped to coach individuals of all backgrounds who
are seeking greater purpose, stability, and growth. Rashida is a
skilled Somali English interpreter, cultural liaison and training psychology to
graduate from Carlton University. Her ability to connect across cultures

(04:57):
is uplifting and empowering for the clients she supports. Rashida
is passionate about helping women see their potential and helping
them become victors rather than victims. She approaches this the
same for the moms she cares for at the Jeremiah Program,
as well as the executives and entrepreneur entrepreneurs she coaches

(05:21):
at Max at mind Max Institute, Bringing Hope to the
Hopeless is where Rashida thrives as a survivor of the
Somali Civil War. She believes that reality is formed through
brain fitness and focusing on the outcome you desire, not
the despair you have survived. I want to dig deeper

(05:46):
into this conversation, so I'm going to invite Rashida and
Dustin to join me now so we can get into
this conversation. So keep up and learn how to start
thriving and having joyful life and having joyful days and
just smiling and laughing more instead of or just crying

(06:10):
every other second. Let's start thriving. That's what we want
to know about, all right, So why do you say
burnout isn't about being busy or doing too much, but
it's about losing yourself in the process.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Well, first of all, I got to say, what a
what an honorable introduction, and you set the standard high.
You know, hopefully I know Rashida can live up to it.
Hopefully I'll be able to too. But thank you and Angela.
It's such a pleasure. You know, you had me on
before and I just really appreciate this and to be
here with my mind Max co founder Rashida now and

(06:49):
we're just excited about this. So to answer your question,
you know, it comes back to the brain fitness kind
of that you mentioned earlier, and that mind Max is
built around. And that's the idea that the base state
of the brain is fight or flight. The brain is

(07:10):
trying to keep us alive. The brain is naturally looking
for the things that are gonna hurt us. That's not efficient.
That is not an efficient way to run. It's just
like your body, you know it the body will you know, uh,
store energy it stores energy in fat, but it's not optimized.

(07:33):
And that's what we're trying to do with the mind,
the same that you do with the body. You know,
you have to work it out. It has to be optimized.
And when we say that it's not running efficiently and
being busy doesn't mean that you're actually.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
Busy.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Isn't the problem. You can be busy and accomplish a
lot of things if you're fine tuned and you're and
you're running at a level you should. And that's what
we really want to focus on with the mind, is
bringing it into that thrive mode rather than just the
survive mode, because when you are fighting yourself, which is

(08:15):
what happens when you're operating in the Bay State, you're
only seeing fear instead of fulfillment.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
Yeah, you know, I kind of experience that what is it,
fight or flight and the mind and the brain kind
of like shuts down. I I can't even tell you
what was going on, but I do know that they
just said I, I, you know, had a breakdown.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
And.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
They said that the brain does that to protect itself
and to protect the body, and I just like, you know,
WHOA I couldn't believe it it's I always kind of
tell this story, but not that often because it is private.
But you know, when that happened, I had needed to
go to the hospital. And when I went to the hospital,

(09:08):
they took me to this special floor and they asked
me questions that you know, I pretty much answered everything,
and I couldn't remember the name of the president, so
that within itself, they were talking about giving me medication.
And then I was sitting in the hallway and I
started looking around because I wasn't sure where I was.

(09:30):
And I looked, I'm like, oh my goodness, there's something
wrong here. I don't belong here. I really don't belong here.
I saw some really very strange behavior. I'm like, so
I tried to get that down, go down. The elevator
is locked. It's like, but I experienced.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
That, and.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
I, you know, it's kind of like, I'm not even
sure what happened. I mean, I had a lot of
things going on, but it just shut down. And I
was like, oh my goodness. And so, you know, I
went through medication and things like that, and I had
to even like say, okay, I'm not doing this any longer.
I'm okay, I'm good I'm fine. And I had a

(10:16):
friend that we used to sing together when we went
to prisons, and he would call and sing to me
every day. That really started bringing me back. But you know,
at this point in time, you would never think that
ever happened. I can't even think about how did that happen.
I'm sitting there, what was I doing? But you know,

(10:37):
it's one of those things I don't live with that.
It's just an experience that I can tell someone none
to tell someone else. You really need to protect your
yourself and you're what you're doing and stop overdoing and
and calm down, don't allow the stress. But okay, how

(11:00):
is the subconscious beliefs shape our daily reality?

Speaker 5 (11:06):
Well I'll take.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
This yeah, yeah, no, no, no, yeah yes.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
So so three things happen at the same time. One
is that you know primitive mind as it doesn't said,
which is your brain is trying to save you from
those alligators, not alligators, but dinosaurs and and and you know,
life threatening species when we were in the in those old,

(11:34):
old old stone ages. So you have that because I
guess we care to the cells, right, So you know
it's it's like okay, run, this is it's danger. Right,
So that's that. And then when you're young, what is
the one thing that children here the most? What's the
one word that children here the most? No? No, right,

(11:59):
be careful, don't do that? What does that bring? That
brings fear? And like why can't I do it? And
also self doubt, right, like okay, she's this authority figure
that I'm seeing, this big person saying no, what something's wrong? Right?
So we never really when we're young, and I mean
I did my share of nose when I was raising
my son. That that happens. But I think we have

(12:23):
to kind of keep in mind that we are shaping
this brain and it's no, it's gonna resonate with it forever.
Because right now, whenever I'm doing something new, I hear
that no, what if? What if this happens? But you know,
we all we have that, all of us, right. And
then there's there are those, you know, culture situations where

(12:45):
some cultures are more don't do it, you know you
shouldn't be doing it, Like for example, my culture, you're
a girl, right, don't don't even go there. You're a girl,
you this is your this is what you need to
be doing. Or you're a guy, you have to be
strong and don't cry. Right. So when you grow up
in a situation like that, which all of us eighty
percent of us are like no, or like those celves

(13:07):
that are saying hey, be careful right, that shapes you.
That shapes you because normally we don't realize it unless
it's too late, and then we don't combat that with no,
you can do it right. We just learned that later
on when when when when we are like in our
thirties maybe the airlanes or like forties, and say why

(13:27):
am I afraid? Okay, I am afraid? What's going on here? Right?
That's when we kind of go through that sort of
reflective scenarios and try and do something about it. But
by that time we're set and then the work is harder.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Unfortunately, that's also a time when everything kind of crashes.
I don't know what exactly age it happened to you,
but like it does. That's that culmination will sometimes of
the nose and the fears and then the countering. You know,
you're tired of fighting it without realizing what's going on,
without the profit training, you're just continually trying to pick

(14:06):
pick yourself up. By the bootstraps instead of you know,
realizing that No, this comes from the way I was conditioned,
just like she said.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
Or sometimes you don't even know what you're battling. You
just know something it's not right. When when I'm gonna
share a little story, when I was uh in my twenties,
I married somebody who was not We were not compatible,
and I, just as you said I was, I knew

(14:38):
something was wrong and I, you know, wascating. I was
not happy. Something was off, but I didn't realize it
was the marriage until one day I feigned and they
took me to the emergency.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
Right.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
I thought I had a hat attack, but it was
an anxiety attack. My body was telling me something is off,
but my brain was telling me what nothing's wrong. Just
you know, you get stronger, get tougher, nothing strong, just
you know, little things here and there. So what if
he calls you this name or that name, you got
to be right. But whenever our body doesn't lie, our

(15:14):
brain sometimes lies to us to protect us, but our
the way we feel does not lie. And whenever you
feel something like something is going wrong in your life,
you have to sit down and kind of assess the
situation because normally it is the body is right.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
So when you recognize that something like that is occurring,
is that when you should begin to try to reprogram
your beliefs so that you can.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
Combat that well, preferably if you can do it earlier
on and you don't reach hospitalization, you know that that
is the ideal situation. But obviously, yeah, when if you
reach there, you have to sit down and say, Okay,
something is off, something's not aligning with my values and
with my well bare I'm going against something. What is that?
So that because if you don't know where you're going against,

(16:04):
you cannot like really choose your suitable weapon, right, So
you have to know where you're going against and say, okay,
what's off here? What do I need to work on?

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Yeah? Yeah, And especially when we have so much going
on in your life, you generally don't we you know,
sometimes we just really don't take the time to even
take care of ourselves, no at all. We take over
our jobs, we take care of our staff, we take
care of you know, our church member, we take we
never ask ourselves are we well?

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Especially this, especially our mind, especially our brain, especially stepping
away from all the junk, and especially loving us I mean,
that's the key to having a brain function well is
seeing the amazingness in us and look at you know,
I'm beautiful, I'm smart, I'm successful, look at all that

(17:00):
I've accomplished, rather than you know what they think about you,
you know what they said about you. You know, look
at how you look, look at how like all those
those those fears, those no's, Like Rashida talks about that,
we were conditioned. And the hard part about it is,
this is why it's it's fitness. Just like working out.
When you work out, those muscles hurt to grow, it

(17:24):
hurts to change that thinking, and no one else is
doing it. That's the other thing is most you know,
ninety percent of news is negative because news knows that
that's what people are drawn to. They know the psychology
behind it. People's brain are unfit. They're not training their
brains to love the good they're training their brain, or

(17:48):
they're not training their brains. They're in that natural state
of fear of what's going to hurt me, of no,
instead of go.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Yeah yeah, and I'll say yeah, that is a terrible
place to be. Yes, believe me, I'm aware it's a
terrible place to be. To always be afraid to do
something because of what somebody else has said or what
somebody else has done, and we allow others to influence

(18:17):
us far more than what we should. It's okay to
have a friend, and it's okay to have a good friend.
When I say a friend, somebody is going to tell
you the truth. I even tell people when they say, oh,
I want to be your friend, I'm not sure. Let
me tell you what I like, because I'm not a
friend that's going to lie to you or pump you

(18:38):
up when you're doing something that I know and you
both know we both know it's wrong, or you're going
to blame somebody when you're a participant. Also, so I
may not be your best friend because you want somebody
to coddle you and tell you that you're doing everything right,
and if you're not, I'm not going to tell that
to you. I'm going to tell you the truth so

(19:00):
that you can make changes so that you can really
be who you're trying to be instead of pretending. Stop
pretending to be this, just be this, be this so
much easier you just get up in the morning, you
be instead of like, oh wow, let me see what
so and so would have been doing.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, but life, once you love yourself and you've trained
your brain, like your brain is running efficiently and it's
seeing the good in you, you can surround yourself with
those friends who want to help you want that growth,
you want that I that says, here's the opportunity for
you to get better because you love you. But if

(19:39):
you haven't learned to love you and your friend tells
you the truth, then once again you you connect that
with that no, that no and that fear.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
You know.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
So it's so crucial to take care of you. And
that's one thing, you know, I think so many times
it's important, you know. I tell people in my coaching.
I used to when I was doing there therapy. I
used to tell them, you know, when someone tells you
who they are, believe them. So many people do not
believe people when they tell them who they are. And
there's people that that that are good for you, and

(20:12):
there's people that not are not And when they show
you they're not, get away anyway. Wasn't an exception, it's
the rule.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Yeah, And I think we we take on the fact
that because you can't get along with that person, something's
wrong with you. No I learned, you know, after going
through a whole lot of processing. Believe me, I've been
around for a while. I've learned that if people don't
enhance who I am and where I'm going, I really

(20:46):
can't let them in my circle because it's just way
too time consuming, too much, drawn, too much, you know,
joy sapped out. No, I can't do that for you,
but I'll tell you what. I'll give you a phone
number that you can go. And that's what they do.

(21:09):
But I'm not the one that's.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
The one for that.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
And some people sometimes when some people are negative. For example,
one of the most important people in my life from
you know, my family, is a little bit towards that negativity.
But first of all, it is her point of view,
and first of all, second of all, she is operating
from that her own fears and her own what if

(21:35):
this doesn't work? You know, what is that din What
if that dinosaur eats me? Right? So then she loves me.
I know she loves me and she cares for me,
but it's her way of protection, protecting me. But that's
also her fear kind of coming through, and and that
even though she doesn't mean it, and she's a wonderful person,

(21:57):
but she's not elevating me. So I have to real
whenever I'm talking to her not to ask certain things
and say, hey, should I do this or do that?
Because if it's her white like, she say, don't do anything.
Just stay in your room. The world is really horrible, right,
So you know, I know not to ask you know,
certain things. And as you said, you have to kind

(22:17):
of surround yourself with people who are in alignment with
where you're going on your value and what you believe in.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Why did you too start working in this area of therapy,
Not that it's not needed, oh my god, is it needed,
But why did you decide to work in this particular area?

Speaker 5 (22:36):
Yeah, you want to go ahead, Well.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
I mean with me, the universe just put me there.
To be honest, I tried to run. My dad was schizophrenic,
my mom was borderline. They had substance abuse issues growing up,
and they were I grew up in Washington State and
back then, this was the eighties and the nineties, the
facilities were scary, and you know, sometimes when when my

(23:02):
dad would have to go to the hospital, it was
it was kind of a traumatic experience as a kid,
and I ended up, you know, working at a large
hospital in the Midwest, and the only job that opened
up once I finished nursing school was child adolessents psychiatry.
And I'm like, no, I get do this, you know,

(23:24):
but hey, you know, the the universe has a plan
and it did and I got there and it was
just like, wow, you know, this is what I'm called for.
And and just that you know, understanding kind of both sides.
But then also, you know, I think sometimes when professionals

(23:46):
haven't had personal experience with it, it blinds them a
little bit. And and once again I think, and then
when Rashida and I got together and she'd been a
coach and you know her her most of her life
a social worker and providing that support for people. We
really when we formed mind Max, what really happened is

(24:09):
we wanted solutions rather than just we've seen so many
people just kind of spin their wheels and they're staying alive,
but they're not thriving, you know. And that's really what
we love about mind Max and being able to coach.
And it's why I stepped away from therapy because therapy
is so important and you have to you have to

(24:30):
work through those hard parts. But what about the next step,
what about the solutions? What about the journey? You know,
and we just we have a passion for It's happened
in our lives. We've gone through stuff and we know
that this brain fitness works. We know that you can
move from fear to fulfillment and fun. And once you

(24:53):
know that, you have to you have to want to
share that.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah. And for me, I from East Africa, Somalia, and
I went through that civil war which was horrendous, which
kind of put me in a position where I needed
to kind of always protect me. And also my parents,
as wonderful, as amazing and loving they are, they're very
protective also. So I heard a lot of that those

(25:17):
nose and don't know it and like sit back right,
or why did you do this? And so I learned
a long time ago to kind of question myself or
to be afraid or to say like hide right. So
I went. I came to North America when I was
about seventeen and all alone. And that does not get

(25:37):
you anywhere but attract people who are going to use
you and abuse you and take advantage of you. And
I went. I went through my share of that, but
then I always knew something was off right. I always
knew something was not aligning with my values and something

(25:58):
was not healthy. Sometimes I would be crossing the road
and the light's green, and I would question myself and say,
is it green? Really? Can you cross? And then I
would run when I was about eighteen or nineteen, because
I was afraid that maybe my brain was playing tricks
on me and I am wrong and the light is red.
So I went through a lot of a lot of

(26:22):
self reflection and like kind of thinking about why am
I this way. That's when I became like thirty or
actually I was thirty five. And then I also developed
obsessive compulsive disorder clinically diagnosed, and that's that Sometimes they
say it's it's the dowbting disease because you always doubt yourself.
Did I wash my hands? Oh no, you didn't go

(26:43):
wash again? Right? So that's when I sat down with myself,
obviously after the hospitalization and I became a single mother,
and I noticed that I was struggling and the struggle
that I was going through was in here because I
was physically well, So what's going on here? Right? And
why am I stuck? And why am I afraid because

(27:05):
a lot of people are not afraid and they're doing well.
And also when I watch celebrities Chris Brown for example,
like if you watch him, he was dancing since the
day he was twelve, and he had no fear, even
though he went through some stuff, but that fear was
not even present. And I noticed that people who are
not fearful are successful. Or even the ones that say, Okay,

(27:29):
I am afraid, but I'll do it anyways, like I'm
gonna try anyways and push themselves, they succeed. And I
wanted to live life. I wanted not to die without
living and there were a lot of things that I
wanted to do, meet people, you know, thrive, you know,
maybe dance, maybe seeing, and that my joys were being

(27:53):
stopped by that fear of like are you crazy? What's
wrong with you? Sit down?

Speaker 4 (27:59):
Yeah, And you know even gets to the point where
we probably need to have parenting classes. That's one of
the things. I mean, there's so many things we learned,
but are they really important. I mean, we should be
learning as financial literacy, we should be learning parenting, you know,

(28:21):
we should be you know, learning investing. You know, those
are things you from the time you get past eighteen,
you're thrown into that arena and you're not prepared because
they were so busy trying to get you to write
a poem. I'm not a poet, That's so true. It's
just you know, okay, I know that's your background, but

(28:44):
that's not me.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
So I've learned the counties, learned the counties of the state,
every county of the state you live in. I mean, like,
come on, I.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
Mean it was just like what for.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
You know, and.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
I mean it just needs to be a total revamp
of the educational system. But I don't mean, like what's
kind of happening now. I'm in a revamp of what
are the really important things that carry you for the
next seventy years. If you're not going to be doing
this seventy years, well what am I learning it now for?
It's not it's just a useless thing. Yes, And so

(29:20):
I mean just going in and and maybe there shouldn't
be so many knows. Well, my mom was the disciplinarian
in our home, and she did a lot of nos
because she, you know, uh, was just trying to protect us. Yes,
But then my dad, he was the easy guy, and
he was always yeah, you're good, you're great. You could

(29:40):
do anything you want, and he would, you know, go
go to the schools when I did my projects and
stuff like that, staying there proudly and always encouraging me. So,
you know, there needs to be a balance in the house.
You got to have somebody doesn't know, but you got
to have somebody that says yes, yes, yes, And it's
just a matter of you know, you know, just focus

(30:02):
in your mind because you hear a lot of those.
It does. It does bring a lot of doubt. Yes,
you feel like you can't, but then you can also
be like, okay, so why not at least I can
try it. If it doesn't work, I just love on
my mouth.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
Yes, And it's not something that something that is stuck
in your head and you never take a chance on right,
So a chance And speaking of the balance and the
nose I have, we have a twenty one year old child.
Dustin came into his life when he was about twelve
or eleven. So I remember when I was young, especially

(30:39):
from Somalia. Your partents will tell you go change that dress.
That's ugly. You look ugly in it, right, your hair
does not look nice, Go go go take care of it.
That's ugly. That was just a norm to say, because
that tough. Love. Okay, go change it so you don't
look so you look pretty, right. So that was my

(31:01):
learned behavior to kind of support and advise the people
that I loved. And sometimes when I think back how
I communicated with some of the people that I liked
so I could support them to kind of see their
shortcomings or like what they're good at. I said a
lot of that, and I regret and now with my son,

(31:22):
because I did not want him to repeat this. I mean,
he's gonna have his own mess, right, but I did
not also want to add his mess to this, like,
oh no, you look ugly, go change this. Whenever I
see him when he was fourteen or fifteen, now he's
two and one and he takes care of business. But
like I see him, kind of his hair is messed up,

(31:43):
and I would say, oh, wow, look at you, handsome.
I love your hair. Maybe add a little bit of
antiphrase to your hair, like that would make it even shine. Wow,
look at you instead of like, my god, what's wrong
with you? You're like crazy.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
About it. He did the brain fitness and it was
very strong and changing. One thing I wanted to circle
back though that I think is very important about the education,
you know, and this is something Rashida and I feel
passionate about and I've also been working with. We have
a curriculum at mind Max that we've been trying to
get for the teachers to kind of start to process

(32:23):
life through their power and potential rather than their pain,
because teachers are really kind of out there by themselves.
Rashida also has her own site called Somali Navigators because
here in in Minnesota there's a lot of uh Smali community,
yeah community, and sometimes the navigation between the the native

(32:47):
or the people that are yeah from Minnesota, the people
that are from Minnesota you know recently, and the people
that came from Somalia, there is.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
Lack of understanding, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
So trying to kind of bridge that east and west
and really realizing that, you know, really everybody wants the
same thing. We want love, we want you know, a house,
we want to make money, we want to be able
to laugh. But there's some things in you know, different
cultures that that you know, can kind of put up

(33:23):
roadblocks that make it look like it's something it's not
so long story short, Getting that mental wellness and that
joy optimization stuff into schools is really something I think.
I think we need to really focus on that because
there's general things. But when you talk about necessities in school,
you got finances that needs to be a necessity.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Investing in my opinion, needs to be a necessity. It's not.
And mental wellness skills needs to be a necessity and
it's not.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
Yeah, oh yeah, and they you know, And like I said,
nobody is really thinking about the fact. And I'm not
even sure how they start. I guess they just people.
You know, I don't you know. I don't want to
even try to explain it because I don't know. But
I know right now there are too many people graduating
from high school or even going into college. I'm prepared

(34:18):
because they have not been exposed to what reality is
once you graduate from high school. And so when they
go into you know, college or something like that, they
have to have a tutor because they didn't get the
right classes because they either weren't offered or they didn't know.
The counselors aren't there anymore because of funding, so there's

(34:39):
no one. There's no guidance anymore. And a lot of
parents didn't go to college, so they don't know either.
So it's just really they're having a struggle and then
having to deal with all of the negative things that
they've heard through their parenting or other people, especially social media.
They're not able to say this is real and this

(35:01):
isn't real and taking care of their mental health. We've
got some really tragic things happening out here in the
streets right now. When you can just walk up and
take someone's life and it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Like bother you.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
There's something not working right in the brain, and there's
something you fed in your brain that wasn't healthy. It
wasn't something that would give you a neutral way of thinking.
It was a hostility, it was anger, it was all
these other things that trigger someone else in the brain

(35:37):
instead of you know, you know what, I'm saying yes
and just being able to you know how you say,
reimagine that and you know what are some of the
better skills that people can learn to stay mentally healthy.
I mean just things they can practice or things that

(35:59):
they can do.

Speaker 5 (36:02):
Well. So what we teach is, as Deston said, that
mental fitness right because no pay, no game, right, no gain, Like,
if you are not going to the gym, as we
said before, your muscles are not going to be as
strong as theirs as you need them to be so

(36:24):
that you're protected and taken care of and like so
your muscles can carry your body. Right. So, first of all,
the person has to be wanting to change and to
imagine what could be once that's taken place. Then we
need discipline, obviously, like every morning, instead of like saying,

(36:47):
oh life is hard, say wow, I'm alive. Life is beautiful.
Look at the sunshine, right, Like, focus on the good
things that are working for you. Right. And sometimes what
I do some exercise said that I do myself is
if I am questioning myself. Let's suppose oh my god,
it's you know Angela's uh uh, you know radio, I'm nervous.

(37:09):
What I do sometimes is just like a bird, you know,
kind of expanding its wings. Like I do that and
then I'm big, right, I am strong, Right, That's what
I do. Yeah, powerful. So, But coming back to the
brain fitness, it's it's consistency, discipline and wanting to reach there.

(37:33):
Wanting you have to be wanting to you have to
know where exactly you're going and then how to reach
there is where Dustin and I can help, right, give
give pointers.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
One just general thing to exactly what Rashida was saying.
But you know, I call it the three to one rule.
For every one negative thought, you need to counter it
with three amazing things about you, not about your dog,
not about your girlfriend, not about your child, because unfortunately

(38:06):
you could lose all those things. As horrible as that sounds,
it has to be based in I'm a good basketball player,
I'm good at computers, I'm good at art, I'm good
at you know, there has to be three to one.
I actually used to tell my clients to make a
list of fifty, which they hated me for that, but

(38:29):
to just go to that because the negative will come naturally.
It's the base state. It's going to come. Yeah, And
what Rashida and I also do with our coaching sessions.
And then now we have the Dean of Zen, which
the Dean of Zen the AI bought is trained in
years of our experience. It's been programmed and it will

(38:50):
only go within the coaching that we taught it, but
it is trained to help people get that brain fitness
kind of like we were talking about before the kids
and everything. Some people might not be as likely to
or have the time right at first to take the
time for their mental health. But this is an easy

(39:13):
access number app. They just touch it and boom, you
have a coach, uh, you know, a joy optimization mental
wellness coach right right at your you know that's going
to help you through the brain fitness techniques.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
So since I had a chance to go out there
and test that out, and I was like, whoa, this
is getting ready to be my best friend. You can
you demonstrate that?

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we we We would love we would
love to try it.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
Okay, that'd be great.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Here we go.

Speaker 5 (39:58):
Am I going to do it? You want me to
do it?

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah, let's get the going first.

Speaker 6 (40:07):
Hey there, this is the deal of then your mindfulness
support AI. Feel free to ask me about anything on
your mind.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
I'm listening.

Speaker 6 (40:14):
Use of this service is governed by our terms of
service and no unauthorized us is allowed. I can also
make some suggestions if you get stuck, just ask me.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
Hi.

Speaker 5 (40:25):
I sometimes feel that I don't fit in that I
am an impostor at work and some circles, and I
don't have that confidence to feel I fit in and
I belong. Can you help me with that? Please?

Speaker 6 (40:50):
Absolutely, and thank you for sharing that with me. Imposter
feelings are incredibly common, even among the most accomplished people.
The brain naturally for threats and can make us doubt
our place. But that doesn't mean those thoughts are true.
Before we dive into specific brain fitness techniques, can you
tell me one thing that's going well for you at
work or in your life right now?

Speaker 5 (41:14):
I have a good matter. I have a good husband.

Speaker 6 (41:19):
That's wonderful to hear. Having a supportive relationship is a
real strength and a solid foundation for your confidence. Now,
when those imposter thoughts show up at work, your brain
is just trying to protect you from rejection or failure.
It's not a sign you don't belong. Would you be
open to trying a quick exercise where we list three
achievements or moments at work that required skill or grit

(41:43):
from you.

Speaker 5 (41:45):
Yes.

Speaker 6 (41:49):
Great, Take a moment and think back. What are three
things you've accomplished at work, big or small, that took effort, skill,
or perseverance. They don't have to be awards or promotions.
Maybe it was solving a tricky problem, helping a colleague
or learning something new. What comes to mind first.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
That I am an amazing support to my clients.

Speaker 6 (42:18):
That's a powerful achievement. Being an amazing support to your
clients shows empathy, skill, and dedication, qualities that are truly
valuable in any workplace. Can you think of two more
moments or strengths you've demonstrated at work, even if they
seem small.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
I supported my coworker with a task a couple of
days ago.

Speaker 6 (42:48):
That's another great example. Supporting a coworker not only shows teamwork,
but also your willingness to help others succeed, something every
workplace needs. What's one more moment, skill, or strength you've
shown at work recently?

Speaker 5 (43:05):
I had a great idea to solve a problem that
our organization was facing.

Speaker 6 (43:15):
That's fantastic. Coming up with a great idea to solve
a problem highlights your creativity and your value to the organization.
When your brain tries to tell you that you don't belong,
these are the real life pieces of evidence you can
use to counter that thought. How does it feel to
reflect on these strengths and achievements?

Speaker 5 (43:36):
It feels really good. This helped a lot, and I'm not.

Speaker 6 (43:50):
I'm glad to hear that. It's amazing how quickly your
brain can shift when you focus on your power and
potential instead of your downs. Remember, every time and aster
thought pops up, counter it with three positives about yourself
or your future, just like we did. Now. Would you
like another brain fitness technique to keep building that confidence?

(44:11):
I'm good for.

Speaker 5 (44:12):
Else you'd like to thank you I'm good for now.

Speaker 6 (44:21):
You're welcome, and remember your power and potential are always
greater than your doubts if you ever need a boost.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
So I'm gonna really admit something. This made me think
the three things that I that I did good, I
swear to God.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
Guard you had to fass out. Oh yeah, I was
gonna say, that's what I love when I was listening
to it. I love that because it's rare when you
have that negative thought that you actually go back and

(45:04):
counter it with something positive. And we do far more
positive than we do negative. But that one little negative
seems to just overwhelm, like the only thing that exists
when oh my gosh, see that just made my.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Day, the threat, that one threat. The brain grabs onto
that one threat because it's worried about that instead of
seeing the beauty, but it lessens the more you do it.
And that's what you know. I this is much much
less expensive than a therapy appointment or a coaching appointment

(45:42):
or anything like that. So we're hoping that, you know,
lots of people will will utilize it. The other thing
I wanted to say.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
Is before you do change for that, give us the location,
give us the website or how do how do they
get in touch or be able to have this opportunity?

Speaker 2 (46:01):
So you can get it at two places. We just
the most updated one is www dot Dean of Zen
dot a I so www dot d e A N
O f z E N dot a I. Or you

(46:23):
can also go to our original website www dot mindmax
dot com. Okay, the d G one is is more
central to the to the to the app though. And
I did want to say one thing though, is what
people forget. You can question this thing if you if

(46:44):
say it for Shida hadn't come up with it. It
will help walk you through. It will keep pushing you
to find those good things about you. It will narrow
it down like if someone's like, oh there's nothing good
about me, well could you tell me about like it
will it will, but surely you're there, Bill, you can
yell at it. You can you know us at it,

(47:05):
well you can, and it will continue to try to
like go towards you know, because some people might be
they might be anxious in that situation. And obviously we
don't have all day to show the different examples, but
it uh the with what what we put in from
our experience. We spent hours and hours like entering assignments

(47:28):
and recordings of of how we would approach it. And
then the the the software engineer that that that put
it together for us is really a rock star.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
So oh great, yeah, yeah, I enjoyed it. And like
I said, it's just something to motivate you to just
keep going and and and to realize you you really
are a gym. You are you know, wonderful, and you
really are courageous and just you know, and I thought,
oh wow, yeah, I need a friend like this.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
I all do.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
And I'm hoping because we have. I mean, like you said,
the negative is there. We can always come up with
things to put ourselves down or to make ourselves feel terrible,
to make a part, yeah yeah, but to but to
actually make our brains think about what we accomplished today,
what we accomplished this week, what we accomplished through our

(48:26):
through our years of living. Yeah, it just doesn't want
to think about that. And uh yeah, one, we'll have
to get get on my brain a little bit because
we all know he's beating me up.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
We also use it to supplement our coaching. So since
we do weekly sessions for the monthly subscriptions, they get
access to the AI also so that if in between
a session there's something going on and they just need
to reiterate what we've worked on or any of those things,
they have it.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
Yeah. It's the way I say it is that it's
it's food for the mind. Like when you around one o'clock,
we crashed and we want snacks or food, and then
we have to nourish our souls, our body. So this
is kind of nourishing your brain. That's how I that's
how I see it. Yeah, because getting hungry is.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Natural.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
We get there, you at really want. You don't need
to work really hard to feel that feeling of like
hey I need something to eat. Right, So the way
I see this is whatever you feel, okay, something is
off here, I need to or something's bothering me I
I don't have the two hundred dollars to see a therapist.

(49:45):
I don't know if I can talk to my mom
about it. I need to get this soul food mind
food that that I that could help me go.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Yeah, good way to put it.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Very good. Well, I'll tell you they've got the websites
that they can contact.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
I think this is a great thing for them to
be able to feed their minds and get that information
and start thinking more positive so they can start thriving
instead of just barely getting by and hating every day.
I just want to thank you too for being here
to help our audience maybe reimagine a life that's happy,

(50:27):
filled with joy, fill with happiness, and they themselves are
feeling positive that they can take on the world and
accomplish just unbelievable things just by just reimagining what's going on.
Thank you so much for being with us today. Thank
you for joining us at a Sharp Outlook. We're here

(50:51):
every Monday at eleven a m. Eastern time and eight
am Pacific time, and you can watch the show know
afterwards on YouTube and you can dial into k FO
HD radio or talk for TV and watch it live.

(51:12):
So I hope that you will join us next week,
but call in this number because I know you're having
negative thoughts just like everyone else. But let's start thinking
about some of the positive things and talk with this
uh uh then of uh Den, of Dean of Zen, Yes, yes,

(51:35):
thank you, and whatever you do, let's just stay informed.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
I want to thank you for joining us on a
Sharp Outlook. We have been informed and energized to take
the next steps. We have posted links to websites and
videos to learn more on today's topic. Please join us
again next week for another out provoking conversation right here
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