October 8, 2024 • 22 mins
I love Bacon! But I love me more! Is educational and entertaining. It's an unofficial analytical review of much of the data related to whole-food, plant-based diet and lifestyle. Marianne Williamson, New York Times Best Selling Author says, "I warn you: if you read this book, you will never think about food the same way […] The post I love Bacon! But I Love Me More! by Mary Kay Matossian appeared first on WebTalkRadio.net.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, book lovers, and welcome to Author's Corner. Get ready
for a whirlwind tour of the latest and greatest reads
and the fascinating stories behind them. Join us as we
check with authors and newsmakers from all over the world,
diving into their journeys and creative processes. And now here's
the host of Author's Corner, the Emmy Award winning Kate
Delady Boy.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I am thrilled to introduce you to a fabulous woman,
Mary Mattosian. She is going to change your life. People.
We're so happy she's joined us here on Author's Corner.
The name of her book, and I'm going to show
to you I love bacon, but I love me more.
Do you love that? I want to show you the cover.
It is so clever because she talks in this book
(00:44):
banished metabolic. He's for me to say metabolic, which has
always been my struggle syndrome, and it's the gateway to
chronic disease, right you think about con disease. And this
is the part I really like too. I'm glad you
put this on the book Live Alone, Longer, Sexier life,
because you deserve it. This book is easy to read.
(01:05):
This book is packed full of information that will, I'm serious,
blow your mind. So Mary, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Thank you, Kate.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
I'm so excited to be here. This is such a privilege.
I'm excited to share this message of hope. And it
was a very long, long journey for.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Me to get to this place.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
So you know, one of the biggest things that I
talk about is suffering from metabolic syndrome.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
So I had that from.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
The age of forty to fifty two, so it was
twelve years of suffering. So there was economic loss, there
was tremendous emotional suffering that went along with this. But
the question is what is metabolic syndrome and metabolic syndrome,
It's a cohort of conditions directly related to our blood
(01:56):
and a circulation systematic problem. So it is high blood pressure,
it is high blood glucose, which leads to diabetes. It's
high cholesterol, and it's also fatty liver, so you have fatty.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Liver that goes along with it.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
So what's happening is you have all this cholesterol showing
up in your body and these are animal products. This
is animal cholesterol. As humans, we make our own cholesterol,
just like a cow makes its own cholesterol. But when
cholesterol comes into our body, it's like I don't know
where to go. And our bodies are meant to be
(02:37):
processing carbohydrates because we need the glucose. It's glucose that
our muscles need, and it's glucose that our brain uses.
And it's insulin that gets this very basic carbohydrate to
our muscles and to our brain. So what happens is suddenly,
I'll tell you it's one out of three Americans have
(03:00):
diabetes too.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
So when we have a very high.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Fat content in our blood, it blocks, it literally blocks
the insulin from getting into our muscles, and it gives
us brain fog.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
So once I reduced the.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Animal fat out of my diet and animal products out
of my diet, you know, I became more alerts. I
had more energy, I could focus more. I was losing weight.
I could concentrate for the entire day. I slept better,
I felt better. My blood pressure came down, my blood
(03:37):
gluecoase came down, my cholesterol came down back. My cholesterol
went from two hundred and thirty down to one hundred
and thirty, not on medication. My blood pressure went from
one seventy over one ten down to one ten over seventy.
And that was within four days of going to the
(03:59):
True North Clinic. And I really praised that place because
I had an experience there when I gave up salt, oil, sugar,
animal products. Suddenly all my blood values became normal and
it was shocking. It was it was truly shocking at
that point.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
So wow, and you had to write this book because
you were on you you were on this journey because
you were frustrated that metabolic syndrome is serious. And then
there's always the press too, well, you can't get it down,
so we have medications for that. And then you get
on that train, the medication train, and thank goodness, you
(04:40):
dove deeper and peeled back and figured out it was
the food, It was what you were doing there, and oh,
what a difference it makes. So it brings up the question,
how is the healthcare industry bailing us?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Sure, that's a great question.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
And since COVID, the healthcare industry is four point five
trillion dollars a year, so that's thirteen thousand, five hundred
dollars per American. You know, we're not spending that much
on food, and so you got to wonder what's going on.
(05:16):
We have several industries that are kind of involved in
this misinformation. I don't blame them because they don't have
the information. When you go see the doctor, because you
have chronic heart disease, you have diabetes, you've got fatty
liver disease, the first question they should be asking you.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Is what are you eating? Period?
Speaker 4 (05:42):
So food has become my homework. You know, before it
was like that was my way to escape. I could
just have these outrage just extraordinary fabulous meals. And after
doing two hundred taking two hundred and fifty hours of
continuing de cash it through some major major organizations, I
(06:03):
started labeling my food as my homework. One of the
things I bring up in my book is I had
to give up some spectacular foods like chicken, like cheese, steak,
and I renamed it. I had to rename it so
chicken I now call cyanide. And for many good reasons,
(06:26):
and you'll find that out in my book. Is suddenly
it was like, as much as I love chicken, as
much as I love bacon, bacon is a class one carcinogen,
along with sausage, hot dogs, processed meats. So I suddenly
just had to give up bacon because it was harming me.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Every time, every time I ate it, and so it was.
It was very, very painful. And I really delved very
deep into the.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Science behind a plant based diet, and I discovered so
many shocking bits and pieces of information. And my book
is written on a fifth grade level with illustrations. The
main illustration is a blood drop. We all have blood
in common, you know, and and it's blood responds the
same way to a keto acidsis diet, to the standard
(07:21):
American diet which is now worldwide, it responds the same
way to a plant based diet. And when we're on
a plant based diet, all of our blood values.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Go back to normal. And it was spectacular. Suddenly I
just felt richer.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
You don't have to be a scientist, you don't have
to be smart, you don't have.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
To be a chef to be on this diet.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
If you're truly interested in improving your health, this is
the diet for you. And no, I'm not hungry. I'm
not hungry at all on this diet and being on
a High five. It's essentially a high fiber diet and
it's also a balanced protein diet, vegetables are chopped full
of protein beans.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So the thing that I eat, for example.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
During the day is I'll have brown rice, I'll have
black beans, I'll have steamed vegetables. I'll have marinaire on it.
Delicious and huge. These are big meals. Another one of
my favorite would be big potato, steamed broccoli, marinera a
green salad on the side.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
You know, Kate. One of the things that I.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Had to do when I got on this diet was
suddenly I had to take the time to eat, because
when you're eating a high a high fiber diet, I
had to chew the food, but also built up my muscles.
Here my jaw mussels and my mass eate are mussels,
so I had to take the time to eat. One
(08:53):
of the things I bring up in my book is
we stop eating when we're full. We don't stop eating
when we've had enough calories.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
So essentially the stomach, the stomach will take.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
In about a half a gallon of food that would
be as I mentioned, broccoli, potatoes, beans, that's about four
hundred calories. If I was to take in oil, bree cheese, steak,
ice cream, you know, and fill up my stomach on
oil that's four thousand calories. And so it was just
(09:31):
fascinating to be able to just sit back and really
make food my homework to support my cardiovascular system, my pancreas,
my brain, to avoid also Alzheimer's, autoimmune disorders, some of
the really big diseases that plague us as we get
(09:53):
as we get older.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Oh and you said it.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You know, I love what you said. You went through
it with bacon, with sausage, with everything, and renaming your foods.
How brilliant is that? So for everybody listening, and your
book is great because, like you said, it's written at
an easy to understand level, with suggestions of what to eat,
very easy to meat and you just eat.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
And you told us.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
One of the great suggestions the brown rice, the baked potatoes,
and what you can put on it, because I think
sometimes people think, oh, I can never have rice again,
I can ever a big potato again.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
That's not true.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It's how you make it and what you put with it.
So with those challenges, how do you shy away from?
How should people shy away from? Which you had in
the beginning foods that you love that you were eating constantly.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Yeah, yeah, that's a that's a great question. One of
the things I bring up in my book is humans
do not like to get hurt, and we don't like
to get injured. So like I would never and I've
have been, you know, way up high in the series,
and I go backpacking a lot, I run into, rattlesnakes,
run into and I will never approach a rattlesnake to
(11:03):
have it bite me just to see what it feels like.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I'll never go down the wrong side of the.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Road on the highway just to see what a car
accident feels like. I will never eat cyanide arsenic mercury
to see what it feels like. And yet we've been
hood rinked into eating food that is slowly killing us.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Not as fast as cyanide, but slowly killing us.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
We do like rules, and when I discovered these basic
basic rules on food, suddenly my life became more peaceful,
more calm. I became more productive, I had more money
in my pocket. So when I discovered these rules that
actually support a high function in human being, my life.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Got so much better.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
I also want to mention the thing that really gets
us is there's so many gurus out there there's so
much push for a high protein diet that we have
tremendous confusion. So the beef and dairy industry bring in
one hundred billion dollars a year promoting their products in
the United States and worldwide. They also have over one
(12:14):
hundred million dollar marketing program that confuses us that we
need high protein, we need dairy, we need we need
way we don't. And so when we kind of challenge
people in my book, really challenge people to take responsibility
for their health, to do their own homework. In the
(12:35):
back of my book, I list all the sources and
all the resources that I've used to make these to
make these really big changes.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Another thing that they.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Say, goodness, like you said it is it's right here
in the back.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
It's got it all.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
So now the big work that you did, everything that
you dug into makes it so much easier for someone
to walk down that road.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Right.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Yes, yes, And I made the book, believe it or not,
as short as possible and as dramatic as possible. And
if people want to do more homework, then they can.
They can do more homework.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
You know, some of the big statistics I want to.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Talk about here in the United States is one of
three Americans has diabetes, one of four Americans will die
of cancer. Seventy percent of Americans are overweight. The American
Heart Association has stated that seventeen million people die worldwide
(13:37):
from heart attacks. So there's something big going on, And
since twenty fourteen, the lifespan in the United States is
now is much more. We're dying at younger ages. We're
dying from liver cancer, colon cancer, heart attacks, and it's like,
there's a reason for it. It's not a mystery to us.
(13:58):
It's not a mystery at all. It's because of what
we're eating and how much work our blood has to
do to process.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
These toxins out of our body.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
So it's a good time to talk about the blood challenge.
Is exactly what you're coming around to.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yes, yes, I want to mention that the blood challenge.
But one of the things I want to mention this
is a big deal. When people choose on need to
be plant based, they say I'm going to be plant based,
is the first month they're suddenly going.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I don't feel good. I feel terrible.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I need my chicken back, you know, I need my cheese.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
I can't get away from cheese.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
And the reason being Kate is people, what happens is
all these store toxins in our cardiovascular system, in our lungs,
in our deposits are now coming into the blood and
they're leaving the body. So they go through this mechanism
in the liver. They pass from the the blood, go
(15:01):
through the liver into the small colon and a large colon.
It's our fiber that grabs up and takes this these
toxins out of the body. So when a person decides
to be plant based, I highly recommend at least a month.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Give it a month.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
People might have basic blood work all ready to work
with urese that as your parameter. Give it a month
if you want to go back and get your blood
checked again. It was so shocking to me how my
blood values, my blood pressure had all changed after being
on this and this was like one month, two months,
three months after the blood challenge.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
So what people, what I'm recommending is.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Sure three meals a day, oatmeal, strawberries, maple syrup, pumpkin seeds.
Take the time, sit down and eat it again thirty minutes.
It feels like a waste of time to eat, but
you want to sit down, you're gonna feel full, You're
going to feel uncomfortable. Then have a nice lunch, have
a salad, have the brown rice, bean, steam, vegetables, little
(16:07):
sauce on it. And then for dinner you want to
have a lighter dinner. You want to have again a salad, soup,
you know, something that really fills you up. Be sure
to just gently bring activity, like a gentle walk into
your life because you're like, ah, I feel a little uncomfortable.
So the body, it's because of all the extra fiber
you're taking in. You have to take the time to
(16:30):
process that that fiber by chewing it and eating it
and digesting it. So that's the biggest challenge is in
my book, I also mentioned there's not a restaurant I don't.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Go to where I can get sided.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
I can get sized, and I can eat a plant
based diet.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
So then if they check.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Their blood value after a month, they're going to see
dramatic improvements. You can't do that on a keto acidosis
or the standard American diet. Yeah, and then something you're
going to see that you're going to have more energy,
you're going to start losing weight. Another thing I also
mentioned in my book. I think it's really important because
this was something I didn't know, is that you should
(17:11):
be hydrated, well hydrated before a meal. I was always
taught to drink my fluids with a meal, So you're
going to be well hydrated thirty minutes before a meal.
Once you eat your meal, you want to wait two
hours before you start taking in water or herbal teas.
(17:33):
And so that really helped with my digestion issues.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah, I mean, that's great tip because I think very
few people realize that they take water with the meal
and they don't think about that, and then they don't
think about that afterwards. So that's huge that you've already
told us this again the name of the book. I
love Bacon, but I Love Me More. You can get
at Amazon, Barnes and over wherever great books are sold.
And you're a nurse, and so you think about that
what you've been able to uncover and the thing that
(18:00):
we talk about a lot with our health is stress
and how do we battle stress and adverse things that
happened at verse events? And you talk about the fact
that the plant based diet helps you tremendously in that arena,
doesn't it o.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Kate, I'll tell you why.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
These creatures that were eating pigs, chickens, cows.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
They're full of cortisol.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
And I used to have literally panic attacks when I
was on a high animal, high hormone diet. And so
when I gave up all these hormones. There are no
hormones in plants. My house burns to the ground with
me in it. I lose to one point seven million
dollar loss. I didn't have stress, I wasn't anxious. Every
day I woke up and I went through my list
(18:45):
of things that had to be done. But when I
gave up animal products, I gave up pie levels of cortisol, estrogen,
and progesterine that I did not igf one I did
not have to have in my system.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
It did not do me any favors. And so a
low protein, a plant.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Based diet has no dangerous hormones in it. Hormones dry
our anxiety and our depression.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, boy, that's something to keep in mind for sure.
And you know, you went through a very serious fire
and to come out that way where you could have
crumbled to the ground, which lots of people would do.
That shows you the difference of what's inside your body right, and.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Then based on what's inside our body, we absolutely have
much greater opportunities to face our challenges. And that's what's
kept me on this diet is I function at a
much better level on this diet.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Do you ever cheat on your plant based diet? Because
I guarantee people ask you that, yes.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I do.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
But I have that structure, the nine am big meal,
the three pm big meal. I always have a plant
I got a plan written out. My biggest meals are
the plant based meals, and sure when I go to
a party, if I go to a event, I will cheat.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
As a human.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
This is not about perfection, but this is like a
group that we're following to stay on this diet. And
after all these years, just after a very short period
of time, I realized the benefits that I've been receiving
from being on this diet. So yeah, cheating's okay. Cheating's okay.
Always just keep coming back, keep coming back to this
(20:23):
high protein or this high fiber diet.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah. And so summing this all, U, because you've told
us so many wonderful things, and I think we've already
said about what do you hope people take away from
reading your book? I love bacon, but I love me
more well.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
That It's really about, like you said, managing stress my life.
Even though it didn't get easier, my life became more
manageable because I was able to handle stress better.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I was able to handle the challenges better.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
I became My circulation was cleaner, my heart was did
not have all the plaques in it, so I was
able to function at a much higher level. And because
of this, that is why I'm on a plant based diet.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Food became my homework.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Food can be our greatest medicine, and food can be
our greatest poison that could poison us at the slowest level,
and it creates tremendous misery in our lives. And I
encourage people to take this challenge and to reconsider the
choices that they're making that they'll feel so much better.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
This is really about avoiding chronic disease, and again, the
chronic disease that.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Get bigger and worse as we get older if we
don't change our diet. And this is really about the
most basic of medicine. Is food is our medicine.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Mary Metosian, thank you so much, perfect place to end this,
and I am so glad you're on this quest. Pick
up this book.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Thank you, Thank you Kate. It's been such a pleasure.
Thank you so much.
Hello, book lovers, and welcome to Author's Corner. Get ready
for a whirlwind tour of the latest and greatest reads
and the fascinating stories behind them. Join us as we
check with authors and newsmakers from all over the world,
diving into their journeys and creative processes. And now here's
the host of Author's Corner, the Emmy Award winning Kate
Delady Boy.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I am thrilled to introduce you to a fabulous woman,
Mary Mattosian. She is going to change your life. People.
We're so happy she's joined us here on Author's Corner.
The name of her book, and I'm going to show
to you I love bacon, but I love me more.
Do you love that? I want to show you the cover.
It is so clever because she talks in this book
(00:44):
banished metabolic. He's for me to say metabolic, which has
always been my struggle syndrome, and it's the gateway to
chronic disease, right you think about con disease. And this
is the part I really like too. I'm glad you
put this on the book Live Alone, Longer, Sexier life,
because you deserve it. This book is easy to read.
(01:05):
This book is packed full of information that will, I'm serious,
blow your mind. So Mary, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Thank you, Kate.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
I'm so excited to be here. This is such a privilege.
I'm excited to share this message of hope. And it
was a very long, long journey for.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Me to get to this place.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
So you know, one of the biggest things that I
talk about is suffering from metabolic syndrome.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
So I had that from.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
The age of forty to fifty two, so it was
twelve years of suffering. So there was economic loss, there
was tremendous emotional suffering that went along with this. But
the question is what is metabolic syndrome and metabolic syndrome,
It's a cohort of conditions directly related to our blood
(01:56):
and a circulation systematic problem. So it is high blood pressure,
it is high blood glucose, which leads to diabetes. It's
high cholesterol, and it's also fatty liver, so you have fatty.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Liver that goes along with it.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
So what's happening is you have all this cholesterol showing
up in your body and these are animal products. This
is animal cholesterol. As humans, we make our own cholesterol,
just like a cow makes its own cholesterol. But when
cholesterol comes into our body, it's like I don't know
where to go. And our bodies are meant to be
(02:37):
processing carbohydrates because we need the glucose. It's glucose that
our muscles need, and it's glucose that our brain uses.
And it's insulin that gets this very basic carbohydrate to
our muscles and to our brain. So what happens is suddenly,
I'll tell you it's one out of three Americans have
(03:00):
diabetes too.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
So when we have a very high.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Fat content in our blood, it blocks, it literally blocks
the insulin from getting into our muscles, and it gives
us brain fog.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
So once I reduced the.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Animal fat out of my diet and animal products out
of my diet, you know, I became more alerts. I
had more energy, I could focus more. I was losing weight.
I could concentrate for the entire day. I slept better,
I felt better. My blood pressure came down, my blood
(03:37):
gluecoase came down, my cholesterol came down back. My cholesterol
went from two hundred and thirty down to one hundred
and thirty, not on medication. My blood pressure went from
one seventy over one ten down to one ten over seventy.
And that was within four days of going to the
(03:59):
True North Clinic. And I really praised that place because
I had an experience there when I gave up salt, oil, sugar,
animal products. Suddenly all my blood values became normal and
it was shocking. It was it was truly shocking at
that point.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
So wow, and you had to write this book because
you were on you you were on this journey because
you were frustrated that metabolic syndrome is serious. And then
there's always the press too, well, you can't get it down,
so we have medications for that. And then you get
on that train, the medication train, and thank goodness, you
(04:40):
dove deeper and peeled back and figured out it was
the food, It was what you were doing there, and oh,
what a difference it makes. So it brings up the question,
how is the healthcare industry bailing us?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Sure, that's a great question.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
And since COVID, the healthcare industry is four point five
trillion dollars a year, so that's thirteen thousand, five hundred
dollars per American. You know, we're not spending that much
on food, and so you got to wonder what's going on.
(05:16):
We have several industries that are kind of involved in
this misinformation. I don't blame them because they don't have
the information. When you go see the doctor, because you
have chronic heart disease, you have diabetes, you've got fatty
liver disease, the first question they should be asking you.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Is what are you eating? Period?
Speaker 4 (05:42):
So food has become my homework. You know, before it
was like that was my way to escape. I could
just have these outrage just extraordinary fabulous meals. And after
doing two hundred taking two hundred and fifty hours of
continuing de cash it through some major major organizations, I
(06:03):
started labeling my food as my homework. One of the
things I bring up in my book is I had
to give up some spectacular foods like chicken, like cheese, steak,
and I renamed it. I had to rename it so
chicken I now call cyanide. And for many good reasons,
(06:26):
and you'll find that out in my book. Is suddenly
it was like, as much as I love chicken, as
much as I love bacon, bacon is a class one carcinogen,
along with sausage, hot dogs, processed meats. So I suddenly
just had to give up bacon because it was harming me.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Every time, every time I ate it, and so it was.
It was very, very painful. And I really delved very
deep into the.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Science behind a plant based diet, and I discovered so
many shocking bits and pieces of information. And my book
is written on a fifth grade level with illustrations. The
main illustration is a blood drop. We all have blood
in common, you know, and and it's blood responds the
same way to a keto acidsis diet, to the standard
(07:21):
American diet which is now worldwide, it responds the same
way to a plant based diet. And when we're on
a plant based diet, all of our blood values.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Go back to normal. And it was spectacular. Suddenly I
just felt richer.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
You don't have to be a scientist, you don't have
to be smart, you don't have.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
To be a chef to be on this diet.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
If you're truly interested in improving your health, this is
the diet for you. And no, I'm not hungry. I'm
not hungry at all on this diet and being on
a High five. It's essentially a high fiber diet and
it's also a balanced protein diet, vegetables are chopped full
of protein beans.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So the thing that I eat, for example.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
During the day is I'll have brown rice, I'll have
black beans, I'll have steamed vegetables. I'll have marinaire on it.
Delicious and huge. These are big meals. Another one of
my favorite would be big potato, steamed broccoli, marinera a
green salad on the side.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
You know, Kate. One of the things that I.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Had to do when I got on this diet was
suddenly I had to take the time to eat, because
when you're eating a high a high fiber diet, I
had to chew the food, but also built up my muscles.
Here my jaw mussels and my mass eate are mussels,
so I had to take the time to eat. One
(08:53):
of the things I bring up in my book is
we stop eating when we're full. We don't stop eating
when we've had enough calories.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
So essentially the stomach, the stomach will take.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
In about a half a gallon of food that would
be as I mentioned, broccoli, potatoes, beans, that's about four
hundred calories. If I was to take in oil, bree cheese, steak,
ice cream, you know, and fill up my stomach on
oil that's four thousand calories. And so it was just
(09:31):
fascinating to be able to just sit back and really
make food my homework to support my cardiovascular system, my pancreas,
my brain, to avoid also Alzheimer's, autoimmune disorders, some of
the really big diseases that plague us as we get
(09:53):
as we get older.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Oh and you said it.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You know, I love what you said. You went through
it with bacon, with sausage, with everything, and renaming your foods.
How brilliant is that? So for everybody listening, and your
book is great because, like you said, it's written at
an easy to understand level, with suggestions of what to eat,
very easy to meat and you just eat.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
And you told us.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
One of the great suggestions the brown rice, the baked potatoes,
and what you can put on it, because I think
sometimes people think, oh, I can never have rice again,
I can ever a big potato again.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
That's not true.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It's how you make it and what you put with it.
So with those challenges, how do you shy away from?
How should people shy away from? Which you had in
the beginning foods that you love that you were eating constantly.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Yeah, yeah, that's a that's a great question. One of
the things I bring up in my book is humans
do not like to get hurt, and we don't like
to get injured. So like I would never and I've
have been, you know, way up high in the series,
and I go backpacking a lot, I run into, rattlesnakes,
run into and I will never approach a rattlesnake to
(11:03):
have it bite me just to see what it feels like.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I'll never go down the wrong side of the.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Road on the highway just to see what a car
accident feels like. I will never eat cyanide arsenic mercury
to see what it feels like. And yet we've been
hood rinked into eating food that is slowly killing us.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Not as fast as cyanide, but slowly killing us.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
We do like rules, and when I discovered these basic
basic rules on food, suddenly my life became more peaceful,
more calm. I became more productive, I had more money
in my pocket. So when I discovered these rules that
actually support a high function in human being, my life.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Got so much better.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
I also want to mention the thing that really gets
us is there's so many gurus out there there's so
much push for a high protein diet that we have
tremendous confusion. So the beef and dairy industry bring in
one hundred billion dollars a year promoting their products in
the United States and worldwide. They also have over one
(12:14):
hundred million dollar marketing program that confuses us that we
need high protein, we need dairy, we need we need
way we don't. And so when we kind of challenge
people in my book, really challenge people to take responsibility
for their health, to do their own homework. In the
(12:35):
back of my book, I list all the sources and
all the resources that I've used to make these to
make these really big changes.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Another thing that they.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Say, goodness, like you said it is it's right here
in the back.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
It's got it all.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
So now the big work that you did, everything that
you dug into makes it so much easier for someone
to walk down that road.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Right.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Yes, yes, And I made the book, believe it or not,
as short as possible and as dramatic as possible. And
if people want to do more homework, then they can.
They can do more homework.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
You know, some of the big statistics I want to.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Talk about here in the United States is one of
three Americans has diabetes, one of four Americans will die
of cancer. Seventy percent of Americans are overweight. The American
Heart Association has stated that seventeen million people die worldwide
(13:37):
from heart attacks. So there's something big going on, And
since twenty fourteen, the lifespan in the United States is
now is much more. We're dying at younger ages. We're
dying from liver cancer, colon cancer, heart attacks, and it's like,
there's a reason for it. It's not a mystery to us.
(13:58):
It's not a mystery at all. It's because of what
we're eating and how much work our blood has to
do to process.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
These toxins out of our body.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
So it's a good time to talk about the blood challenge.
Is exactly what you're coming around to.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yes, yes, I want to mention that the blood challenge.
But one of the things I want to mention this
is a big deal. When people choose on need to
be plant based, they say I'm going to be plant based,
is the first month they're suddenly going.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I don't feel good. I feel terrible.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I need my chicken back, you know, I need my cheese.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
I can't get away from cheese.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
And the reason being Kate is people, what happens is
all these store toxins in our cardiovascular system, in our lungs,
in our deposits are now coming into the blood and
they're leaving the body. So they go through this mechanism
in the liver. They pass from the the blood, go
(15:01):
through the liver into the small colon and a large colon.
It's our fiber that grabs up and takes this these
toxins out of the body. So when a person decides
to be plant based, I highly recommend at least a month.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Give it a month.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
People might have basic blood work all ready to work
with urese that as your parameter. Give it a month
if you want to go back and get your blood
checked again. It was so shocking to me how my
blood values, my blood pressure had all changed after being
on this and this was like one month, two months,
three months after the blood challenge.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
So what people, what I'm recommending is.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Sure three meals a day, oatmeal, strawberries, maple syrup, pumpkin seeds.
Take the time, sit down and eat it again thirty minutes.
It feels like a waste of time to eat, but
you want to sit down, you're gonna feel full, You're
going to feel uncomfortable. Then have a nice lunch, have
a salad, have the brown rice, bean, steam, vegetables, little
(16:07):
sauce on it. And then for dinner you want to
have a lighter dinner. You want to have again a salad, soup,
you know, something that really fills you up. Be sure
to just gently bring activity, like a gentle walk into
your life because you're like, ah, I feel a little uncomfortable.
So the body, it's because of all the extra fiber
you're taking in. You have to take the time to
(16:30):
process that that fiber by chewing it and eating it
and digesting it. So that's the biggest challenge is in
my book, I also mentioned there's not a restaurant I don't.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Go to where I can get sided.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
I can get sized, and I can eat a plant
based diet.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
So then if they check.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Their blood value after a month, they're going to see
dramatic improvements. You can't do that on a keto acidosis
or the standard American diet. Yeah, and then something you're
going to see that you're going to have more energy,
you're going to start losing weight. Another thing I also
mentioned in my book. I think it's really important because
this was something I didn't know, is that you should
(17:11):
be hydrated, well hydrated before a meal. I was always
taught to drink my fluids with a meal, So you're
going to be well hydrated thirty minutes before a meal.
Once you eat your meal, you want to wait two
hours before you start taking in water or herbal teas.
(17:33):
And so that really helped with my digestion issues.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah, I mean, that's great tip because I think very
few people realize that they take water with the meal
and they don't think about that, and then they don't
think about that afterwards. So that's huge that you've already
told us this again the name of the book. I
love Bacon, but I Love Me More. You can get
at Amazon, Barnes and over wherever great books are sold.
And you're a nurse, and so you think about that
what you've been able to uncover and the thing that
(18:00):
we talk about a lot with our health is stress
and how do we battle stress and adverse things that
happened at verse events? And you talk about the fact
that the plant based diet helps you tremendously in that arena,
doesn't it o.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Kate, I'll tell you why.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
These creatures that were eating pigs, chickens, cows.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
They're full of cortisol.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
And I used to have literally panic attacks when I
was on a high animal, high hormone diet. And so
when I gave up all these hormones. There are no
hormones in plants. My house burns to the ground with
me in it. I lose to one point seven million
dollar loss. I didn't have stress, I wasn't anxious. Every
day I woke up and I went through my list
(18:45):
of things that had to be done. But when I
gave up animal products, I gave up pie levels of cortisol, estrogen,
and progesterine that I did not igf one I did
not have to have in my system.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
It did not do me any favors. And so a
low protein, a plant.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Based diet has no dangerous hormones in it. Hormones dry
our anxiety and our depression.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, boy, that's something to keep in mind for sure.
And you know, you went through a very serious fire
and to come out that way where you could have
crumbled to the ground, which lots of people would do.
That shows you the difference of what's inside your body right, and.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Then based on what's inside our body, we absolutely have
much greater opportunities to face our challenges. And that's what's
kept me on this diet is I function at a
much better level on this diet.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Do you ever cheat on your plant based diet? Because
I guarantee people ask you that, yes.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I do.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
But I have that structure, the nine am big meal,
the three pm big meal. I always have a plant
I got a plan written out. My biggest meals are
the plant based meals, and sure when I go to
a party, if I go to a event, I will cheat.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
As a human.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
This is not about perfection, but this is like a
group that we're following to stay on this diet. And
after all these years, just after a very short period
of time, I realized the benefits that I've been receiving
from being on this diet. So yeah, cheating's okay. Cheating's okay.
Always just keep coming back, keep coming back to this
(20:23):
high protein or this high fiber diet.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah. And so summing this all, U, because you've told
us so many wonderful things, and I think we've already
said about what do you hope people take away from
reading your book? I love bacon, but I love me
more well.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
That It's really about, like you said, managing stress my life.
Even though it didn't get easier, my life became more
manageable because I was able to handle stress better.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I was able to handle the challenges better.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
I became My circulation was cleaner, my heart was did
not have all the plaques in it, so I was
able to function at a much higher level. And because
of this, that is why I'm on a plant based diet.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Food became my homework.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Food can be our greatest medicine, and food can be
our greatest poison that could poison us at the slowest level,
and it creates tremendous misery in our lives. And I
encourage people to take this challenge and to reconsider the
choices that they're making that they'll feel so much better.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
This is really about avoiding chronic disease, and again, the
chronic disease that.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Get bigger and worse as we get older if we
don't change our diet. And this is really about the
most basic of medicine. Is food is our medicine.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Mary Metosian, thank you so much, perfect place to end this,
and I am so glad you're on this quest. Pick
up this book.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Thank you, Thank you Kate. It's been such a pleasure.
Thank you so much.
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