January 16, 2025 • 30 mins
Radio personality Abe Kanan joins Dan Levy for a laugh-out-loud episode packed with relentless roast sessions and epic debates. Together, they argue over the best healthiest fast food item, pit infamous dads LaVar Ball and Joe Jackson against each other in the ultimate "Father of the Year" showdown, and imagine a no-holds-barred cereal mascot royal rumble. Who comes out on top—Tony the Tiger, the Trix Rabbit, or a dark horse contender? Tune in for the chaos, hilarity, and some truly wild takes!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Arkuns Mark you mans, welcome in to another edition of.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Arguments the video for once. We're doing this on video
and I'm doing it with my good buddy Aim Cannon.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
What of Abe, Thank you for having me. It's great
to be here on Argument.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Did you like the intro? No?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I didn't. Ah, how do you know what's going on?
It sounded horrible. I whatever you're sending to me sounded weird.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, for the sake of it, you could have faked
it anyway. Thanks for jumping on again. That was awesome.
There you go. Now you know the now you know
the way of the game. Fake it till you make
it once again, I think you again. We haven't done
a Arguments in a lot of time, so I figured
we're going to do one. I want to do it
with somebody I can have fun with it. That would
be Abe Cannon.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Abe.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
It's funny. Usually whenever I do any kind of adventure,
you're the one that's in charge of it. But whenever
I do it, I feel nervous with you because I'm
always like, what if he doesn't like it? And what's
like out? Like you have like that feeling of like
uh oh, I have like three seconds to impress this guy.
Otherwise I will see just all of a sudden in
the screen a phone come up like this, and then
(01:19):
I won't see it, and you'd be like, oh my god,
I got you know what? Let me go you back,
that's my mom calling, and then I won't hear from
Abe ever. Again. It's very nerve raging creatively with Abe. Canon.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
That's very weird because you're the only person besides my
mom and girlfriend who I talk to you on the
phone like I talked to you. I talked to you
on the phone, I would say almost every day, which
is bizarre in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
That's sure.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
It's weird that you would be uncomfortable with anything.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well, no, because I just ask you questions. I lead
you to the entertainment because you're the funny. So whenever
I'm like driving home from somewhere, I'm like, oh, I
got a couple of minutes. It's like, you know, your
instant instant gratification when it comes to am, I can
just lob things at you, and I know within a
about forty five seconds, I'm laughing uncontrollably. Where I have
(02:03):
to stop the car and then get going somewhere so
for me, it's fun, like that's the one like you
and my buddy Mark Roni. It's the best thing because
if you're a radio guy, conversations are better with other
radio people because they know how to like volley it.
And when I have conversations with people that aren't in radio,
conversations last maybe thirty seconds. Hey what are you up to?
(02:23):
Just working?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Well, it's because no one talks on the phone anymore.
I think I think you and I are conditioned to
talk on the phone. I don't think people do. That's
that's a lost art. No, But you're a conversational list.
You can have conversations.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I have a lot of conversations with you know, family
members and friends and nieces and nephews, and there is
no real volumes me asking questions, and then after that
I'm like, all right, I'm gonna go get a beer,
I'm gonna go do something else. But with you, it's
like I'm gonna I want some popcord and I'm gonna
sit still, buckle up, and this conversation is about to
(02:55):
go ninety different ways in about ten minutes.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
The problem is that most of our conversations are us
talking smack about people. So we can do that right.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Now, Oh we can. It's bargaining as my friend. Anything
goes on this one. Who knows where this one's gonna go,
And if something comes up organically, I'm not stopping it, buddy,
all right. So it's been a while since we've done
a podcast. The Facebook group is going pretty well. It's
not as good as the slop Show, which Aim and
I also knew as well. So if you're a member
(03:24):
of the Bargument's Facebook group, slob Show is a must.
It's pretty much every food, everything delicious you're possibly going
to see in terms of videos and discussions. And there's
no hate on that group too. That's the other thing
about the slop Show. There's no trash talk and everybody's like, ooh,
this looks disgustingly delicious. I want that.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
And if anyone talks smack, they get kicked out of
the group. So that just that's how it works.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I will say starting a group page like that is
a It's pretty daunting because when I did the Arguments one,
I don't know you have five or we have five
over five thousand members on the slot and it keeps
growing every day. I see the message that says, you know,
you know, let's welcome these new members. Yeah. I got
grolled out for some reason.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah. Well, the difference with the Slop Show is it's
just food pictures, so like, who wouldn't love food pints?
It's all food, that's it. The Arguments takes almost daily work,
daily work. I gotta I gotta comb the Internet for
things I can argue with people, and already, yeah, now
it's starting. When I wake up, I'll start seeing two
(04:30):
or three people that have started arguments without me. But
I'm like, okay, good sweet, somebody else started one, and
then I'm like, ugh, Now I gotta invite more people
to like it, or all of a sudden, I'll see
you grow like one or two.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Where is the Slop Show? There's like one hundred new
members every hour.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah. The slop Show Facebook group is like a laundry mat.
It just like runs itself. You set it up and
you just let it go. You don't have to do
anything now.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Abe also does radio in Sacramento for Rock ninety eight.
It is an amazing station out there, and Abe does
a really good job. And because I can't listen to
it live in Chicago, I spent an hour listening to
it yesterday on abecannon dot com. You can go there
and you can listen to the entire show, which is
actually pretty cool because I could listen to a radio
show without any of the music. It's just an hour
(05:15):
of Abe Cannon.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Thank you. And you could stream it on the Odyssey
app too. I'm live on there too.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
So what I discovered is that Abe Cannon has lost
twelve pounds in like six days. Is that what it was?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yeah, so I lost twelve pounds. Actually, well, so I'm
doing a few things. Number one, I gained about seven
pounds in Chicago the last two weeks, so.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I've really that's always that's if you're gonna go on
any diet, the best thing to do is to gain
a lot more weight first and then bring it down
a normal.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
You know what's funny too, Speaking of food, Palermos sent
me four bottles of sauce.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I saw that. How did you even hook that up?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I made a video of Palermos and it had millions
of views million points. Yeah, it had like a few
million views on Facebook, Instagram. Okay, and so the guy
like hit me up once. He's like, oh, thank you
for coming blah. Blah blah. So whatever. So I saw
they're now selling the sauce in bottles. Now is it
in grocery stores? Can I get a tour? Is it's
(06:14):
something I gotta like? Just the three player mos on
sixty third, there's one in Frankfurt, there's one in Uh,
there's there's there's one in Indiana. No that that one's
not affiliated with them.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Oh really, the one on ninety is not affiliated with them?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, these are the three all right?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
So I got to go to locations and then that's
the only place I can buy the sauces.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, the one on the one in Chicago, the one
in Frankfort, and the one in Maryville, Indiana. But so
I messaged the guy. I'm like, hey, you guys need
to start bottling this sauce up and selling it because
I want to buy some in California.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And he just sent me a bunch. So now that
you have sauces, are you gonna start making pizzas? What
are we doing with sauces? I drank it. I drink
I'm not joking. I drank half a bottle of sauce yesterday. Okay,
that just gave you the willies. You drank man earra sauce.
You've been to Palermo's, right. The sauce is delicious, But
(07:04):
I would never drink sauce.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
It's like drinking like a tomato. Delicious. It was. I
started drinking it yesterday and I drank more than half
the bodilest cool.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I wonder if you could make a bloody mary out
of those? Do you like bloody marries? Are you a
bloody marry guy?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Not really, but you could.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
My brother makes the best bloody mary you'll ever have.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
But I lost twelve pounds because number one, I got
those factor meals. You know, the meal service.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
You would tell me about that. What what kind of
meals are those?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
They're like just prepackaged, Yeah, prepackaged like chicken with vegetables,
like your standard meal five six hundred calories. But I'm
also eating in and out protein style, which is wrapped
in lettuce with no sauce. And I add mustard, So
mustard as zero calories.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Mustard does have zero calories' right?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
A double burger it's two hundred and forty calories for
the meat. Tomatoes are ten calories, so like two hundred
and fifty or two hundred and sixty calories per day,
double protein style burger.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
So then the question I could eat the question. The
question I have for you is this, if you're doing
the protein style in and out burger, doesn't it get
messy everywhere? Doesn't it get called greasy in all over
your hands because the lettuce isn't exactly like the bun
catches all?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah? Well, I mean I'm not what do you think
I'm going to like a big event after.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
No, But I know I do know that a guy
like you does not like anything on his hands or anywhere.
And the last thing you want is dripping down beef
grease down your arms. I don't see you comfortable with that.
When I eat it, I'm shirtless, right, So the last
thing you need is beef grease running up and down
your chest.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah, it's fine me. If it's on your chest, you
wipe it off with the paper towel, like you know.
You eat it over the plate, but you know it
in and out they give you the box too. You
can eat it in the car, which I've done. It's fine.
The lettuce wraps it up really well.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
My wife, every time we go out to each she's
a little more in doubt in some areas than most,
and she's always getting stains on her shirt. And I
was like, I want to come out with an invention.
But it's like a disposable bib, almost like a paper
towel that you got off, but it's like decorative so
it looks nice, but it really is just ripped that
thing right off. Yeah, almost like a little like a
(09:16):
little like a little dispenser. You just put it right
out and then when you're knowing that you can rip
it off so it doesn't look that bad.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
You know, babies wear those, they make those. You can
just get her one.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Well, yeah, but that's a little obvious if a grown
woman is wearing an actual bib with a catch all
in the bottle. We have those from DJ that's a
little thing. I'm thinking something kind of fashionable, something fashionable. Yeah,
all right, So then the maargument would go to you
this way, abe, since you're going the healthy route with
the in and out burger, what is the best healthiest
fast food item ever?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Man, I would say that I've discovered it.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I really do enjoy those. Uh, those those the grilled
chicken nuggets from internet from a Chick fil A, Those
grilled chicken nuggets are all they are. But you can
get like you get like a handful of those things.
You just pop those things. They're easy. I like food.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I got dollars and you get like a mouthful of food.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Well, how much is how much is the In and
out Burger?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
The double?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yes, five dollars, five dollars for a double. But the
Chicka nuggeons and Chick fil A aren't thirteen dollars. They're
pretty expensed. I mean it's like six dollars. No, they're
more than that. Let me take a look at this.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I'll tell you this if you want to do a
bargument on the best sauce at Chick fil A. I
think the best sauce is their honey mustard.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Siracha is the best one. Siracha is the best one
because siracha.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Mustard is the best honey mustard I think I've ever had.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
They have the best honey mustard you've ever had.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I think so. It's one of the top honey mustards ever.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
That is interesting. I'm trying to look up I would
say the I like siracha. I've now become anytime I
can actually get something spicy, my sauces have to be spicy.
Now if you.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Remember my story about the honey mustard at Benegan's or.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Uh do tell again. I I don't remember what the
listeners would like to know. Eve.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
When I was somewhere around between I don't know, seventeen
and early twenties, we used to go to a place
called Bennigan's, which there's actually a Benny you know, there's
still Benigans in Elgent.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
You told me that. I can't believe that, and uh
so I.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Went in there. I woul get the chicken fingers and
they had the best sauce ever. It was the greatest sauce.
So I ordered extra sauce and with my chicken fingers,
and I had like like one and a half cups left,
or like a little bit over one cup. So the
waiter came by. I said, Hey, can I have more sauce?
And he goes, oh, that's not enough.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Like, what what do you mean?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
That's not?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Like, of course that's not enough, because of all eddy
waiter that has the words coming out of their mouth,
that's not enough to be a waiter. Exactly. You should
say whatever you gotta do it and keep clenching that temp.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah that was not enough. Yeah, he points, that's not enough.
I'm like, no, it's okay. It's like that Hooters waitress
who asked you how you wanted your chicken cook.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
That was bizarre. That was that was a waitress who
had never done waitressing before. I would you like, what
kind of wings would you like? I'll take twenty hot.
How would you like get cooked all the way? Yeah? Medmen,
what are we talking about? I'll have I'll have the
non life threatening chicken wings. Please exactly. I'd like to
leave here without throwing up in the parking lot. All right,
(12:32):
So those chicken nuggets for kids. It's seven bucks. So
that's a fine counter. You're right, you're right, you know what.
But here's the thing. Not everybody can get the in
and out burger. That's the only problem.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Oh you got you have a red hot ranch there
that's better than it and out.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Red hot ranch is not a well yeah, I get
to have the red hot ranch. What you have to
have it?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Hang on, I'm no, I'm on the chick flue. Now
you got me on the Chick fil a menu here.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I am trying to look for the actual Oh here
we are, girll nuggets. Okay, So eight of them. There
are six seventy five. That's for an adult.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
But who's eating just eight? Not me?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
That's true. More than that, that's true, you definitely need
more than that. You're right, there's a bigger one than eight, isn't.
I'm not seeing it.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I don't know whatever. They're small either way.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
So that's true. Okay, So I understand that. Also, I
will say the snack Crab was pretty good. The snaggrabbing
Donald snackgrab was pretty good. Aren't they bringing that back
or not? They're supposed to be. They're supposed to be
just like the double decker and talk about, which I
(13:40):
still can't believe they got rid of.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Here's the problem. I can't go to a fast food
place and just eat one of anything because then we've
talked about so many times. But because we grew up
in the two for two whopper era, we were we
were taught that a meal isn't one whopper, it's two whoppers.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
That's true. And there is say there is something to
when you open that paper bag for whatever fast food
place you went to, and there's multiple things in paper
bags in there. There's different burgers. There's like a little
cardboard thing of nuggets. There's like a couple of things.
It's all nice. And that's why White Castle doesn't pretty
good because it's all kind of tetristed in there, like
(14:19):
little burgers mounted in. You're like, you break it up
far and you're like, oh, yeah, there's two of these suckers,
and I have like nine levels to go.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
This is fantastic. Yeah, Burger King groomed us to be
slobs because they're like, here, two whoppers for two dollars
or one whopper for like four fifty. So why would
I pay four fifty for one when two are for
two dollars? Yes, in flight, the same for all obesity.
I will say that I do miss.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
The one Burger King adem that I actually do miss
is that BK broiler, the girl check in, the extra
mayo that that came on, that the tomato, the lettuce.
That was one of the best things I ever had.
And that thing is long gob They should bring good.
It was really good, jacob Ross. It was really really good.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
The BK Broiler and the Arch Deluxe at McDonald's so
Arch Deluxe and they're in Canada they're bringing it back
a version of it.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I never had the Arch Deluxe that's what I want.
And what's the one you what's the one for McDonald's
that you always get, the the uh daily double? The
daily double? That one is outstanding. I love and it
used to be a dollar ninety nine always.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I know.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
That's still my favorite. And a lot of McDonald's don't
have it. Really Yeah, well, luckily I live it.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Luckily I live in Chicago where they have it. Yeah,
I can go. They don't have it in Chicago. No,
some of them know, some a lot d but some don't.
I have yet to go to McDonald's and not get
a daily double.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
There's some that don't have it, because I've been there.
I'm like, they're like, we don't have it. I'm like, what,
that's just daily double? Are you nuts? Let's see when
I go to McDonald's. Of course I use the app.
If if you eat fast food and you don't use
the apps, you're making a major mistake.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Well, you would never do it because you look at
the total and it's like eighteen dollars for two burgers.
The app is the necessity, and you go through it
every day and you try to look for one good
deal and you're like, oh, okay, I can get that.
But there used to be one where you get a
Commo meal and you get the Happy meal DJ and
I would go there. Oh yeah, yeah, weekly weekly. It's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
So like right now they have forty percent off a
double cheese burger, a free fry with any big mac purchase,
free ten piece nuggets with a fifteen dollars purchase three
dollars breakfast sandwich a two dollars, any size fry. Like
you just save money.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I will say, Burger King I think has the better app,
though burgery is like buy one whoppering agains seven of
it for like a dollar.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Have you ever gone to that Burger King on Jackson
Downtown Now, it's horrible. They don't take that app. There's
big signs that they'll take the app. Yeah, it's like
it's like the you know the Ghostbusters thing, Yes line
through it, Yes, it says app not take it here.
That because they don't want to use it because they
know they could charge more money because people are downtown.
(17:06):
But like, that's the worst burgering I've ever been to.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
And it's not a good burgerging either. Even if you
don't use the app, the food is not BurgerKing as
I have noticed, everyone is different. So I say with Wendy's.
Wendy's is a place that I really like, but there's
a good Wendy's. Three out of four are not good.
But then if you find that one really good Wendy's,
you're in for our treat.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
You saw that breakfast Baconator that I posted right that picture, It's.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
The greatest breakfast sandwich of all time. But the breath,
the bacon, the breakfast Baconator sandwich, it's so lovely. It's
so lovely.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Look at that.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
It's so lovely. It's so nice. It's so nice.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I'm telling you, the breakfast Baconator is. It's the greatest
out crap. Hang on, No, I just must.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Now you absumed yourself there you go.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
How do I fix that?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Uh? Liter, I guess I'll just have the self adjust.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Hang on, hang I don't do it.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
You put the picture around Jordan's security guy. You know
what's funny, I have that guy.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
That guy's been my picture and I was just doing
another interview, uh for work, and I'm like, oh shit,
I forgot that's my that's my profile picture right here.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
I've met I have met Michael Jordan or I've been around, Yes,
I've been around Michael Jordan or kind of waiting for
him about three or four times in my life, and
anytime it was actually kind of cool because you never
knew what Jordan was coming. Everybody was kind of hunched around,
like where the buses come in. But when you saw
that guy walk in, you knew Jordan was like ten
(18:43):
feet behind him. And I was always like, who is
that Einstein looking guy? For years I would always go
who is that guy? And I'm like, oh, he's the
next cop. He's just one of Jordan's guys. But when
you see him, Jay's like right, and literally you would
see that guy walk in and then five second later
you would see the entry Jordan's big bald head. So
when the last dance came out and they really went
(19:04):
in on that guy, I was like, I feel like
that was serviced to me because for years I was like,
who is that einstying guy? Who is that guy? And
then he's like the most hilarious guy the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Some guy messaged me he's a listener of some I
forgot what show that I do or did, but he
listened and he was that guy's like nephew or something.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Really.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yeah, he's the one who told me he died.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I saw when the Last Dance came out. I think
Jeffrey Jordan posted that, you know, great to hear his
stories of this guy again rest of Beast. But he
had died like two months before the show came out.
Like he was alive until like that January, so just
before COVID.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I mean, if he was alive still, he would have
been a major star, Like he would have been everywhere
doing interviews.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I thought Slim Booler was also going to be a
major star. I'm not so sure anymore. I haven't heard
from these guys, Slim Buller, Michael Jordan's golfing, gambling guy
that took him for like forty grand Oh yeah, what.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
A time that was, the whole Bulls Championship brun Like,
nothing will be like that ever again, because that was
before we had cameras everywhere. Like he was bigger.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
He was bigger than anything that social media could have
ever done. He was like viral, and viral wasn't even
a thing.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
But Rodman, how about Rodman?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Like it was crazy, Yeah, said whole thing.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Even with the Blackhawks back then, with Tonia Monty and
Ronick and those.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
It was. It was yeah, but you know what from
being a guy who was not in Chicago during that
whole thing. Michael Rodman, all that stuff, the Madonna stuff,
I mean Rodman coming out of the book in the dress,
I mean that was nationwide. It was beyond him. Was
let alone to live here? All right?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Now?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Speaking of basketball, we have LeVar Ball's other son, not
a Lonzo, not LaMelo, but Leangelo Ball. Ave has gotten
now famous of a viral song yeah, which is.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Kind of teen million dollar deal with the label.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
A thirteen million number for a song that is, it's
pretty bad. Have you listened to it?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I've heard like people in locker rooms they're like, oh,
they're playing the newly Angelo Ball, Like I saw that
on like ESPN. All right, well I've never heard the
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Okay, So here's here's some highlights for le Angelo Ball.
In high school he won scored seventy two points in Lithuania,
scored seventy two points the JBA Championship. I guess he
scored fifty eight in that one as well. Drew Leik
fifty two, the g League he got twenty two, and
an NBA Summer League sixteen. He came out with one
song that's viral and he's made thirteen million dollars off
(21:38):
of that. So, if you're a LeVar Ball, you got
a son that was the number one pick in the NBA.
In Lonzo, you got LaMelo Ball. He wasn't the number
one pick. Was he was the number three?
Speaker 3 (21:51):
He was two? I think because the Bulls draft or
the Lakers drafted him. Oh that's right, But he wasn't
the first pick.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Who was.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
No, he wasn't the first pick.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Maybe you're right, Maybe right, you're right, Mark hel Folds,
So you're right, Lonzo. You know Jason Tatum was drafted
after that, Yad.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
You know Michael Jordan was drafted after Sam Bowie Sambooie.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I know Sam Boo.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Oden was drafted before Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
And I've met somebody one hundred bucks once, like greg O,
and it was going to be way better than uh,
Kevin Durant because I was like size Oh yeah, I
made that fast. That was a But anyway, going back
to it, LaVar Ball has two kids in the NBA,
one of which is going to be really good. In LaMelo.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah, he's already a max player. So he'll make thirty
forty fifty sixty million a year now for at least
the next five, six, seven years.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
So Leangelo Ball now making thirteen million dollars, He's generational
wealth those three and this guy predicted nothing but good thing.
So the question for you is this the argument, Abe,
who is the better dad for their kids? Is it
LeVar Ball or Joe Jackson with Michael Jackson at the
Jackson five and Janet Jackson.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Well, Joe Jackson had better kids. His kids changed the world.
LaVar Ball's kids did not.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
True.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
LaVar Ball seems like Joe Jackson seems like a bigger asshole. Yeah, Var,
I don't think LaVar Ball beat his kids. Raining I'm pretty.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Sure he raised a hand. That guy looks like that
guy looks like he's making sure every he's in check.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
But Joe Jackson we know was Yes, No, that guy
was an abuse of monster.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah. Now as far as look at Serena Williams her
dad like.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Oh another dad. I never even thought of Serena Williams's
dad in that one. Yeah, King, Richard, King, Richard, that's right.
I will, by the way, I will never be able
to hear the name King Richard without Chris rocketting slap
by Will Smith ever again exactly Richard, King, rich Get
Richard will Smith rich all right, so that makes never
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LaVar Ball, Joe Jackson or King Richard.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I mean, I mean, it's not assholes and ya to
be great. It seems like if you have a kid,
if you look at some of the greatest athletes ever,
their parents were very you know involved.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Tiger's dad too. Tiger's dad was having that kid playing
like three years old.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yeah, so like like, but then you have people like
Lebron James who didn't have a dad, or Michael Jordan.
I don't know how involved his dad was so well,
it was his brother.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
His brother was like whoop in his butt and like
every time Jordan, like every time Jordan won, like his
brother would they fight.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
But but here's the I mean, I'm a dad. If
DJ doesn't want to do something that I don't want
to do it, I'm not going to push him into it.
I don't want to be that dad that's like you
have to make ten free throws. You're not getting Megan Cheese, Like,
I don't understand how these dads you do that.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
You don't have that drive that those guys have. Like
those guys their drive is maybe they felt like failures
in life and they're like, this is it now, my
kid now will do what I wanted to because you know,
Joe Jackson wanted to be a musician. You know LaVar
Ball want to be an athlete. Right, so they're like,
this is it and I'm forced. My kids said to
you what I didn't do, which is probably good. You
don't do that.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
But looking at up Mike DJ look at how Michael
Jackson's life turned out. The guy was I would say
for the first ten years of his career he was
the greatest of all time. And then after that, every
year he got a little bit weirder, a little bit weirder,
a lotle bit weirder. Tito, the rest of the Jackson
five are all probably selling street wise downtown right now.
(25:26):
I have no idea where those guys are. The one
just died, Janet Jackson, she did well. LaToya Jackson was
in Playboy before Michael Jackson's thriller could even hit the
uh hit the records. Now, Levarval, all those kids look
a little little I don't want to use the word special,
but they all look a little a little interesting, like
they have no personality. He's the guy that's walking around
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screaming and yelled like Don King, and the three of
them don't really say anything.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Have you ever seen the boxer Tyson Fury? Have ever
seen dead John Fury? Yes, he's crazy like that too,
just like guys they're they're the ones who are vocal
because the kids are just in the corner and that's
just what they do. Like Joe Jackson, Yeah, Michael Jackson
talk like this, but Joe Jackson was always screaming, Like
that's just how it is.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I know. But it's like when you have that kind
of a dominant personality, these guys no longer become their
own personality, Like they're just reflections of what their dad is.
Like the kind of swag that Leangelo and Lonzo and
LaMelo like, it only goes as high as their dad's
gonna go. I mean, those guys are all like at
a three from an actual like energy level. You see
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these guys in real life, and when they talk, they
barely barely like even talk out a lot of when
when they've done interviews, they just sit there like like
abused kids. Just sitting there like that'll answer all the questions.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Well, are you ever around people who just like suck
the life out of a room because they're always so crazy? Right,
so it's usually me, but it's like there's no room
anymore in the room after LaVar is just going crazy
in the room, so they can't they can't really do anything.
It's just like they're always they're just so used to
the clown show from their dead.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
The cloud show. All right, I have one more argument,
because we only have a few minutes left. If I
were to throw a bunch of cerial logos into a
wrestling ring and they were to battle it out for
supreme victory, who is standing in top raising their head
at the end out of all the cereal logos was
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snap crackling pop, right, because when they like team up
and like do a concerto where they'd put your head
on the chair and like, the three of those guys
would be pretty dangerous. I would say the cuckoo, the
cocoa puff guy is pretty crazy. That guy is nuts.
He's the guy of guy walking in like hacksaw Jim
duggin Hoo with a two point four. You don't know
what that guy's gonna do that. Guy Tiger too could
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kick him. He's always he's huge. I feel like Tony
the Tiger is like that Andre the Giant. He's huge,
but he's not exactly fast, and if he was going
to try to like go for one of the snap
crackling pops, they would like run underneath him and he
would just do that move where he eventually gets beat up.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
So, in fact, you you tried out to be Tony
the Tiger voice.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I've auditioned a few times for Tony the Tiger. I've
come very close to it because I was great at
the impression. That's still a dream come true.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
You imagine that if you were Tony the Tiger out
that would be hilarious because that's my front base. He's
also Tony, Like, that's it. Like you you never have
to worry about doing anything again. You're like, I'm Tony,
I'm set, I'm sad.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
We would be doing this podcast out of my home
studio at one of three different houses that I owned.
You you'd be in out of an apartment on the
Southwest suburbs of Chicago.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
You'd be in Monaco.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Oh, how things would have changed out? The life would
have been life changing and I've gotten it. But if
I were to say it, I mean, you also have
the Honeyspacks guy. There's also the two can There's also
Fred Flintstone and Bartie. There's also Dragula and and uh
the Frankenberry Guire's Frank and Boberry. I consider the Franking
(29:02):
Erry guy kind of like the Undertaker. So you never
know what's gonna happen when that guy walks in there.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
So we'll count Schalky like he kicks some mass probably,
but I would go snap crackling Poppy. They look like
they can't be trusted too. That's no cheat I feel anything.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I feel the same way about Lucky for Lucky, the
Lucky Charms guy. That guy is coming in there with
all kinds of things and throwing people.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
And he also brings magic to the table, which is
a whole other thing that's magically delicious. Big moron, you know,
he's strong and everything.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
He's an idiot, like the Andre the Giant, Like, I'm
sure if he got his hands on you, he would
do it. But a lot of those guys are little.
They're all little, so they're all flying around them exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
They're tying your ankles up with rope and they're tripping
you and stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
And then.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I've going Coco puffs guy. I don't know why that
guy is lean. He's mean, and that guy's and he's nuts.
I think he's a cuckoo bird. He's cuckoo. He's cocover
for go go buffs.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Oh yeah, yeah, I haven't seen him in a while.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, yes, definitely. Maybe not something you want
to look up, but you know the nut bag to
that guy's moving around there, he is. Well, don't do it.
You're gonna get out of focus. All right, that's gonna
do it for another edition of Arguments. Much thanks to
my buddy Abe Cannon. Thanks for doing this with me
and testing on the video side of this. All right,
we will do this again. Thanks all who subscribe, We listen.
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Please go ahead and share this with all your friends. YadA, YadA, YadA. Again.
Jump on the Facebook group Arguments always have some fun
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where you can watch a lot of Abe canon in
my videos and a lot of abes videos and it's
a growing community as well. So once again, Frame Cannon.
My name is Dan Levy, you've been listening to arguments.
We'll talk to you guys soon. See Y
Arkuns Mark you mans, welcome in to another edition of.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Arguments the video for once. We're doing this on video
and I'm doing it with my good buddy Aim Cannon.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
What of Abe, Thank you for having me. It's great
to be here on Argument.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Did you like the intro? No?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I didn't. Ah, how do you know what's going on?
It sounded horrible. I whatever you're sending to me sounded weird.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, for the sake of it, you could have faked
it anyway. Thanks for jumping on again. That was awesome.
There you go. Now you know the now you know
the way of the game. Fake it till you make
it once again, I think you again. We haven't done
a Arguments in a lot of time, so I figured
we're going to do one. I want to do it
with somebody I can have fun with it. That would
be Abe Cannon.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Abe.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
It's funny. Usually whenever I do any kind of adventure,
you're the one that's in charge of it. But whenever
I do it, I feel nervous with you because I'm
always like, what if he doesn't like it? And what's
like out? Like you have like that feeling of like
uh oh, I have like three seconds to impress this guy.
Otherwise I will see just all of a sudden in
the screen a phone come up like this, and then
(01:19):
I won't see it, and you'd be like, oh my god,
I got you know what? Let me go you back,
that's my mom calling, and then I won't hear from
Abe ever. Again. It's very nerve raging creatively with Abe. Canon.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
That's very weird because you're the only person besides my
mom and girlfriend who I talk to you on the
phone like I talked to you. I talked to you
on the phone, I would say almost every day, which
is bizarre in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
That's sure.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
It's weird that you would be uncomfortable with anything.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well, no, because I just ask you questions. I lead
you to the entertainment because you're the funny. So whenever
I'm like driving home from somewhere, I'm like, oh, I
got a couple of minutes. It's like, you know, your
instant instant gratification when it comes to am, I can
just lob things at you, and I know within a
about forty five seconds, I'm laughing uncontrollably. Where I have
(02:03):
to stop the car and then get going somewhere so
for me, it's fun, like that's the one like you
and my buddy Mark Roni. It's the best thing because
if you're a radio guy, conversations are better with other
radio people because they know how to like volley it.
And when I have conversations with people that aren't in radio,
conversations last maybe thirty seconds. Hey what are you up to?
(02:23):
Just working?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Well, it's because no one talks on the phone anymore.
I think I think you and I are conditioned to
talk on the phone. I don't think people do. That's
that's a lost art. No, But you're a conversational list.
You can have conversations.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I have a lot of conversations with you know, family
members and friends and nieces and nephews, and there is
no real volumes me asking questions, and then after that
I'm like, all right, I'm gonna go get a beer,
I'm gonna go do something else. But with you, it's
like I'm gonna I want some popcord and I'm gonna
sit still, buckle up, and this conversation is about to
(02:55):
go ninety different ways in about ten minutes.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
The problem is that most of our conversations are us
talking smack about people. So we can do that right.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Now, Oh we can. It's bargaining as my friend. Anything
goes on this one. Who knows where this one's gonna go,
And if something comes up organically, I'm not stopping it, buddy,
all right. So it's been a while since we've done
a podcast. The Facebook group is going pretty well. It's
not as good as the slop Show, which Aim and
I also knew as well. So if you're a member
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of the Bargument's Facebook group, slob Show is a must.
It's pretty much every food, everything delicious you're possibly going
to see in terms of videos and discussions. And there's
no hate on that group too. That's the other thing
about the slop Show. There's no trash talk and everybody's like, ooh,
this looks disgustingly delicious. I want that.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
And if anyone talks smack, they get kicked out of
the group. So that just that's how it works.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I will say starting a group page like that is
a It's pretty daunting because when I did the Arguments one,
I don't know you have five or we have five
over five thousand members on the slot and it keeps
growing every day. I see the message that says, you know,
you know, let's welcome these new members. Yeah. I got
grolled out for some reason.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah. Well, the difference with the Slop Show is it's
just food pictures, so like, who wouldn't love food pints?
It's all food, that's it. The Arguments takes almost daily work,
daily work. I gotta I gotta comb the Internet for
things I can argue with people, and already, yeah, now
it's starting. When I wake up, I'll start seeing two
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or three people that have started arguments without me. But
I'm like, okay, good sweet, somebody else started one, and
then I'm like, ugh, Now I gotta invite more people
to like it, or all of a sudden, I'll see
you grow like one or two.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Where is the Slop Show? There's like one hundred new
members every hour.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah. The slop Show Facebook group is like a laundry mat.
It just like runs itself. You set it up and
you just let it go. You don't have to do
anything now.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Abe also does radio in Sacramento for Rock ninety eight.
It is an amazing station out there, and Abe does
a really good job. And because I can't listen to
it live in Chicago, I spent an hour listening to
it yesterday on abecannon dot com. You can go there
and you can listen to the entire show, which is
actually pretty cool because I could listen to a radio
show without any of the music. It's just an hour
(05:15):
of Abe Cannon.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Thank you. And you could stream it on the Odyssey
app too. I'm live on there too.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
So what I discovered is that Abe Cannon has lost
twelve pounds in like six days. Is that what it was?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yeah, so I lost twelve pounds. Actually, well, so I'm
doing a few things. Number one, I gained about seven
pounds in Chicago the last two weeks, so.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I've really that's always that's if you're gonna go on
any diet, the best thing to do is to gain
a lot more weight first and then bring it down
a normal.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
You know what's funny too, Speaking of food, Palermos sent
me four bottles of sauce.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I saw that. How did you even hook that up?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I made a video of Palermos and it had millions
of views million points. Yeah, it had like a few
million views on Facebook, Instagram. Okay, and so the guy
like hit me up once. He's like, oh, thank you
for coming blah. Blah blah. So whatever. So I saw
they're now selling the sauce in bottles. Now is it
in grocery stores? Can I get a tour? Is it's
(06:14):
something I gotta like? Just the three player mos on
sixty third, there's one in Frankfurt, there's one in Uh,
there's there's there's one in Indiana. No that that one's
not affiliated with them.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Oh really, the one on ninety is not affiliated with them?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, these are the three all right?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
So I got to go to locations and then that's
the only place I can buy the sauces.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, the one on the one in Chicago, the one
in Frankfort, and the one in Maryville, Indiana. But so
I messaged the guy. I'm like, hey, you guys need
to start bottling this sauce up and selling it because
I want to buy some in California.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And he just sent me a bunch. So now that
you have sauces, are you gonna start making pizzas? What
are we doing with sauces? I drank it. I drink
I'm not joking. I drank half a bottle of sauce yesterday. Okay,
that just gave you the willies. You drank man earra sauce.
You've been to Palermo's, right. The sauce is delicious, But
(07:04):
I would never drink sauce.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
It's like drinking like a tomato. Delicious. It was. I
started drinking it yesterday and I drank more than half
the bodilest cool.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I wonder if you could make a bloody mary out
of those? Do you like bloody marries? Are you a
bloody marry guy?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Not really, but you could.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
My brother makes the best bloody mary you'll ever have.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
But I lost twelve pounds because number one, I got
those factor meals. You know, the meal service.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
You would tell me about that. What what kind of
meals are those?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
They're like just prepackaged, Yeah, prepackaged like chicken with vegetables,
like your standard meal five six hundred calories. But I'm
also eating in and out protein style, which is wrapped
in lettuce with no sauce. And I add mustard, So
mustard as zero calories.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Mustard does have zero calories' right?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
A double burger it's two hundred and forty calories for
the meat. Tomatoes are ten calories, so like two hundred
and fifty or two hundred and sixty calories per day,
double protein style burger.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
So then the question I could eat the question. The
question I have for you is this, if you're doing
the protein style in and out burger, doesn't it get
messy everywhere? Doesn't it get called greasy in all over
your hands because the lettuce isn't exactly like the bun
catches all?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah? Well, I mean I'm not what do you think
I'm going to like a big event after.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
No, But I know I do know that a guy
like you does not like anything on his hands or anywhere.
And the last thing you want is dripping down beef
grease down your arms. I don't see you comfortable with that.
When I eat it, I'm shirtless, right, So the last
thing you need is beef grease running up and down
your chest.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah, it's fine me. If it's on your chest, you
wipe it off with the paper towel, like you know.
You eat it over the plate, but you know it
in and out they give you the box too. You
can eat it in the car, which I've done. It's fine.
The lettuce wraps it up really well.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
My wife, every time we go out to each she's
a little more in doubt in some areas than most,
and she's always getting stains on her shirt. And I
was like, I want to come out with an invention.
But it's like a disposable bib, almost like a paper
towel that you got off, but it's like decorative so
it looks nice, but it really is just ripped that
thing right off. Yeah, almost like a little like a
(09:16):
little like a little dispenser. You just put it right
out and then when you're knowing that you can rip
it off so it doesn't look that bad.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
You know, babies wear those, they make those. You can
just get her one.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Well, yeah, but that's a little obvious if a grown
woman is wearing an actual bib with a catch all
in the bottle. We have those from DJ that's a
little thing. I'm thinking something kind of fashionable, something fashionable. Yeah,
all right, So then the maargument would go to you
this way, abe, since you're going the healthy route with
the in and out burger, what is the best healthiest
fast food item ever?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Man, I would say that I've discovered it.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I really do enjoy those. Uh, those those the grilled
chicken nuggets from internet from a Chick fil A, Those
grilled chicken nuggets are all they are. But you can
get like you get like a handful of those things.
You just pop those things. They're easy. I like food.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I got dollars and you get like a mouthful of food.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Well, how much is how much is the In and
out Burger?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
The double?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yes, five dollars, five dollars for a double. But the
Chicka nuggeons and Chick fil A aren't thirteen dollars. They're
pretty expensed. I mean it's like six dollars. No, they're
more than that. Let me take a look at this.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I'll tell you this if you want to do a
bargument on the best sauce at Chick fil A. I
think the best sauce is their honey mustard.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Siracha is the best one. Siracha is the best one
because siracha.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Mustard is the best honey mustard I think I've ever had.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
They have the best honey mustard you've ever had.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I think so. It's one of the top honey mustards ever.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
That is interesting. I'm trying to look up I would
say the I like siracha. I've now become anytime I
can actually get something spicy, my sauces have to be spicy.
Now if you.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Remember my story about the honey mustard at Benegan's or.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Uh do tell again. I I don't remember what the
listeners would like to know. Eve.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
When I was somewhere around between I don't know, seventeen
and early twenties, we used to go to a place
called Bennigan's, which there's actually a Benny you know, there's
still Benigans in Elgent.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
You told me that. I can't believe that, and uh
so I.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Went in there. I woul get the chicken fingers and
they had the best sauce ever. It was the greatest sauce.
So I ordered extra sauce and with my chicken fingers,
and I had like like one and a half cups left,
or like a little bit over one cup. So the
waiter came by. I said, Hey, can I have more sauce?
And he goes, oh, that's not enough.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Like, what what do you mean?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
That's not?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Like, of course that's not enough, because of all eddy
waiter that has the words coming out of their mouth,
that's not enough to be a waiter. Exactly. You should
say whatever you gotta do it and keep clenching that temp.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah that was not enough. Yeah, he points, that's not enough.
I'm like, no, it's okay. It's like that Hooters waitress
who asked you how you wanted your chicken cook.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
That was bizarre. That was that was a waitress who
had never done waitressing before. I would you like, what
kind of wings would you like? I'll take twenty hot.
How would you like get cooked all the way? Yeah? Medmen,
what are we talking about? I'll have I'll have the
non life threatening chicken wings. Please exactly. I'd like to
leave here without throwing up in the parking lot. All right,
(12:32):
So those chicken nuggets for kids. It's seven bucks. So
that's a fine counter. You're right, you're right, you know what.
But here's the thing. Not everybody can get the in
and out burger. That's the only problem.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Oh you got you have a red hot ranch there
that's better than it and out.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Red hot ranch is not a well yeah, I get
to have the red hot ranch. What you have to
have it?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Hang on, I'm no, I'm on the chick flue. Now
you got me on the Chick fil a menu here.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I am trying to look for the actual Oh here
we are, girll nuggets. Okay, So eight of them. There
are six seventy five. That's for an adult.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
But who's eating just eight? Not me?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
That's true. More than that, that's true, you definitely need
more than that. You're right, there's a bigger one than eight, isn't.
I'm not seeing it.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I don't know whatever. They're small either way.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
So that's true. Okay, So I understand that. Also, I
will say the snack Crab was pretty good. The snaggrabbing
Donald snackgrab was pretty good. Aren't they bringing that back
or not? They're supposed to be. They're supposed to be
just like the double decker and talk about, which I
(13:40):
still can't believe they got rid of.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Here's the problem. I can't go to a fast food
place and just eat one of anything because then we've
talked about so many times. But because we grew up
in the two for two whopper era, we were we
were taught that a meal isn't one whopper, it's two whoppers.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
That's true. And there is say there is something to
when you open that paper bag for whatever fast food
place you went to, and there's multiple things in paper
bags in there. There's different burgers. There's like a little
cardboard thing of nuggets. There's like a couple of things.
It's all nice. And that's why White Castle doesn't pretty
good because it's all kind of tetristed in there, like
(14:19):
little burgers mounted in. You're like, you break it up
far and you're like, oh, yeah, there's two of these suckers,
and I have like nine levels to go.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
This is fantastic. Yeah, Burger King groomed us to be
slobs because they're like, here, two whoppers for two dollars
or one whopper for like four fifty. So why would
I pay four fifty for one when two are for
two dollars? Yes, in flight, the same for all obesity.
I will say that I do miss.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
The one Burger King adem that I actually do miss
is that BK broiler, the girl check in, the extra
mayo that that came on, that the tomato, the lettuce.
That was one of the best things I ever had.
And that thing is long gob They should bring good.
It was really good, jacob Ross. It was really really good.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
The BK Broiler and the Arch Deluxe at McDonald's so
Arch Deluxe and they're in Canada they're bringing it back
a version of it.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I never had the Arch Deluxe that's what I want.
And what's the one you what's the one for McDonald's
that you always get, the the uh daily double? The
daily double? That one is outstanding. I love and it
used to be a dollar ninety nine always.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I know.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
That's still my favorite. And a lot of McDonald's don't
have it. Really Yeah, well, luckily I live it.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Luckily I live in Chicago where they have it. Yeah,
I can go. They don't have it in Chicago. No,
some of them know, some a lot d but some don't.
I have yet to go to McDonald's and not get
a daily double.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
There's some that don't have it, because I've been there.
I'm like, they're like, we don't have it. I'm like, what,
that's just daily double? Are you nuts? Let's see when
I go to McDonald's. Of course I use the app.
If if you eat fast food and you don't use
the apps, you're making a major mistake.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Well, you would never do it because you look at
the total and it's like eighteen dollars for two burgers.
The app is the necessity, and you go through it
every day and you try to look for one good
deal and you're like, oh, okay, I can get that.
But there used to be one where you get a
Commo meal and you get the Happy meal DJ and
I would go there. Oh yeah, yeah, weekly weekly. It's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
So like right now they have forty percent off a
double cheese burger, a free fry with any big mac purchase,
free ten piece nuggets with a fifteen dollars purchase three
dollars breakfast sandwich a two dollars, any size fry. Like
you just save money.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I will say, Burger King I think has the better app,
though burgery is like buy one whoppering agains seven of
it for like a dollar.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Have you ever gone to that Burger King on Jackson
Downtown Now, it's horrible. They don't take that app. There's
big signs that they'll take the app. Yeah, it's like
it's like the you know the Ghostbusters thing, Yes line
through it, Yes, it says app not take it here.
That because they don't want to use it because they
know they could charge more money because people are downtown.
(17:06):
But like, that's the worst burgering I've ever been to.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
And it's not a good burgerging either. Even if you
don't use the app, the food is not BurgerKing as
I have noticed, everyone is different. So I say with Wendy's.
Wendy's is a place that I really like, but there's
a good Wendy's. Three out of four are not good.
But then if you find that one really good Wendy's,
you're in for our treat.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
You saw that breakfast Baconator that I posted right that picture, It's.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
The greatest breakfast sandwich of all time. But the breath,
the bacon, the breakfast Baconator sandwich, it's so lovely. It's
so lovely.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Look at that.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
It's so lovely. It's so nice. It's so nice.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I'm telling you, the breakfast Baconator is. It's the greatest
out crap. Hang on, No, I just must.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Now you absumed yourself there you go.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
How do I fix that?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Uh? Liter, I guess I'll just have the self adjust.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Hang on, hang I don't do it.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
You put the picture around Jordan's security guy. You know
what's funny, I have that guy.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
That guy's been my picture and I was just doing
another interview, uh for work, and I'm like, oh shit,
I forgot that's my that's my profile picture right here.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
I've met I have met Michael Jordan or I've been around, Yes,
I've been around Michael Jordan or kind of waiting for
him about three or four times in my life, and
anytime it was actually kind of cool because you never
knew what Jordan was coming. Everybody was kind of hunched around,
like where the buses come in. But when you saw
that guy walk in, you knew Jordan was like ten
(18:43):
feet behind him. And I was always like, who is
that Einstein looking guy? For years I would always go
who is that guy? And I'm like, oh, he's the
next cop. He's just one of Jordan's guys. But when
you see him, Jay's like right, and literally you would
see that guy walk in and then five second later
you would see the entry Jordan's big bald head. So
when the last dance came out and they really went
(19:04):
in on that guy, I was like, I feel like
that was serviced to me because for years I was like,
who is that einstying guy? Who is that guy? And
then he's like the most hilarious guy the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Some guy messaged me he's a listener of some I
forgot what show that I do or did, but he
listened and he was that guy's like nephew or something.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Really.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yeah, he's the one who told me he died.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I saw when the Last Dance came out. I think
Jeffrey Jordan posted that, you know, great to hear his
stories of this guy again rest of Beast. But he
had died like two months before the show came out.
Like he was alive until like that January, so just
before COVID.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I mean, if he was alive still, he would have
been a major star, Like he would have been everywhere
doing interviews.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I thought Slim Booler was also going to be a
major star. I'm not so sure anymore. I haven't heard
from these guys, Slim Buller, Michael Jordan's golfing, gambling guy
that took him for like forty grand Oh yeah, what.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
A time that was, the whole Bulls Championship brun Like,
nothing will be like that ever again, because that was
before we had cameras everywhere. Like he was bigger.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
He was bigger than anything that social media could have
ever done. He was like viral, and viral wasn't even
a thing.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
But Rodman, how about Rodman?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Like it was crazy, Yeah, said whole thing.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Even with the Blackhawks back then, with Tonia Monty and
Ronick and those.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
It was. It was yeah, but you know what from
being a guy who was not in Chicago during that
whole thing. Michael Rodman, all that stuff, the Madonna stuff,
I mean Rodman coming out of the book in the dress,
I mean that was nationwide. It was beyond him. Was
let alone to live here? All right?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Now?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Speaking of basketball, we have LeVar Ball's other son, not
a Lonzo, not LaMelo, but Leangelo Ball. Ave has gotten
now famous of a viral song yeah, which is.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Kind of teen million dollar deal with the label.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
A thirteen million number for a song that is, it's
pretty bad. Have you listened to it?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I've heard like people in locker rooms they're like, oh,
they're playing the newly Angelo Ball, Like I saw that
on like ESPN. All right, well I've never heard the
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Okay, So here's here's some highlights for le Angelo Ball.
In high school he won scored seventy two points in Lithuania,
scored seventy two points the JBA Championship. I guess he
scored fifty eight in that one as well. Drew Leik
fifty two, the g League he got twenty two, and
an NBA Summer League sixteen. He came out with one
song that's viral and he's made thirteen million dollars off
(21:38):
of that. So, if you're a LeVar Ball, you got
a son that was the number one pick in the NBA.
In Lonzo, you got LaMelo Ball. He wasn't the number
one pick. Was he was the number three?
Speaker 3 (21:51):
He was two? I think because the Bulls draft or
the Lakers drafted him. Oh that's right, But he wasn't
the first pick.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Who was.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
No, he wasn't the first pick.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Maybe you're right, Maybe right, you're right, Mark hel Folds,
So you're right, Lonzo. You know Jason Tatum was drafted
after that, Yad.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
You know Michael Jordan was drafted after Sam Bowie Sambooie.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I know Sam Boo.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Oden was drafted before Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
And I've met somebody one hundred bucks once, like greg O,
and it was going to be way better than uh,
Kevin Durant because I was like size Oh yeah, I
made that fast. That was a But anyway, going back
to it, LaVar Ball has two kids in the NBA,
one of which is going to be really good. In LaMelo.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah, he's already a max player. So he'll make thirty
forty fifty sixty million a year now for at least
the next five, six, seven years.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
So Leangelo Ball now making thirteen million dollars, He's generational
wealth those three and this guy predicted nothing but good thing.
So the question for you is this the argument, Abe,
who is the better dad for their kids? Is it
LeVar Ball or Joe Jackson with Michael Jackson at the
Jackson five and Janet Jackson.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Well, Joe Jackson had better kids. His kids changed the world.
LaVar Ball's kids did not.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
True.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
LaVar Ball seems like Joe Jackson seems like a bigger asshole. Yeah, Var,
I don't think LaVar Ball beat his kids. Raining I'm pretty.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Sure he raised a hand. That guy looks like that
guy looks like he's making sure every he's in check.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
But Joe Jackson we know was Yes, No, that guy
was an abuse of monster.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah. Now as far as look at Serena Williams her
dad like.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Oh another dad. I never even thought of Serena Williams's
dad in that one. Yeah, King, Richard, King, Richard, that's right.
I will, by the way, I will never be able
to hear the name King Richard without Chris rocketting slap
by Will Smith ever again exactly Richard, King, rich Get
Richard will Smith rich all right, so that makes never
(23:55):
LaVar Ball, Joe Jackson or King Richard.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I mean, I mean, it's not assholes and ya to
be great. It seems like if you have a kid,
if you look at some of the greatest athletes ever,
their parents were very you know involved.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Tiger's dad too. Tiger's dad was having that kid playing
like three years old.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yeah, so like like, but then you have people like
Lebron James who didn't have a dad, or Michael Jordan.
I don't know how involved his dad was so well,
it was his brother.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
His brother was like whoop in his butt and like
every time Jordan, like every time Jordan won, like his
brother would they fight.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
But but here's the I mean, I'm a dad. If
DJ doesn't want to do something that I don't want
to do it, I'm not going to push him into it.
I don't want to be that dad that's like you
have to make ten free throws. You're not getting Megan Cheese, Like,
I don't understand how these dads you do that.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
You don't have that drive that those guys have. Like
those guys their drive is maybe they felt like failures
in life and they're like, this is it now, my
kid now will do what I wanted to because you know,
Joe Jackson wanted to be a musician. You know LaVar
Ball want to be an athlete. Right, so they're like,
this is it and I'm forced. My kids said to
you what I didn't do, which is probably good. You
don't do that.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
But looking at up Mike DJ look at how Michael
Jackson's life turned out. The guy was I would say
for the first ten years of his career he was
the greatest of all time. And then after that, every
year he got a little bit weirder, a little bit weirder,
a lotle bit weirder. Tito, the rest of the Jackson
five are all probably selling street wise downtown right now.
(25:26):
I have no idea where those guys are. The one
just died, Janet Jackson, she did well. LaToya Jackson was
in Playboy before Michael Jackson's thriller could even hit the
uh hit the records. Now, Levarval, all those kids look
a little little I don't want to use the word special,
but they all look a little a little interesting, like
they have no personality. He's the guy that's walking around
(25:50):
screaming and yelled like Don King, and the three of
them don't really say anything.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Have you ever seen the boxer Tyson Fury? Have ever
seen dead John Fury? Yes, he's crazy like that too,
just like guys they're they're the ones who are vocal
because the kids are just in the corner and that's
just what they do. Like Joe Jackson, Yeah, Michael Jackson
talk like this, but Joe Jackson was always screaming, Like
that's just how it is.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I know. But it's like when you have that kind
of a dominant personality, these guys no longer become their
own personality, Like they're just reflections of what their dad is.
Like the kind of swag that Leangelo and Lonzo and
LaMelo like, it only goes as high as their dad's
gonna go. I mean, those guys are all like at
a three from an actual like energy level. You see
(26:36):
these guys in real life, and when they talk, they
barely barely like even talk out a lot of when
when they've done interviews, they just sit there like like
abused kids. Just sitting there like that'll answer all the questions.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Well, are you ever around people who just like suck
the life out of a room because they're always so crazy? Right,
so it's usually me, but it's like there's no room
anymore in the room after LaVar is just going crazy
in the room, so they can't they can't really do anything.
It's just like they're always they're just so used to
the clown show from their dead.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
The cloud show. All right, I have one more argument,
because we only have a few minutes left. If I
were to throw a bunch of cerial logos into a
wrestling ring and they were to battle it out for
supreme victory, who is standing in top raising their head
at the end out of all the cereal logos was
(27:28):
snap crackling pop, right, because when they like team up
and like do a concerto where they'd put your head
on the chair and like, the three of those guys
would be pretty dangerous. I would say the cuckoo, the
cocoa puff guy is pretty crazy. That guy is nuts.
He's the guy of guy walking in like hacksaw Jim
duggin Hoo with a two point four. You don't know
what that guy's gonna do that. Guy Tiger too could
(27:50):
kick him. He's always he's huge. I feel like Tony
the Tiger is like that Andre the Giant. He's huge,
but he's not exactly fast, and if he was going
to try to like go for one of the snap
crackling pops, they would like run underneath him and he
would just do that move where he eventually gets beat up.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
So, in fact, you you tried out to be Tony
the Tiger voice.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I've auditioned a few times for Tony the Tiger. I've
come very close to it because I was great at
the impression. That's still a dream come true.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
You imagine that if you were Tony the Tiger out
that would be hilarious because that's my front base. He's
also Tony, Like, that's it. Like you you never have
to worry about doing anything again. You're like, I'm Tony,
I'm set, I'm sad.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
We would be doing this podcast out of my home
studio at one of three different houses that I owned.
You you'd be in out of an apartment on the
Southwest suburbs of Chicago.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
You'd be in Monaco.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Oh, how things would have changed out? The life would
have been life changing and I've gotten it. But if
I were to say it, I mean, you also have
the Honeyspacks guy. There's also the two can There's also
Fred Flintstone and Bartie. There's also Dragula and and uh
the Frankenberry Guire's Frank and Boberry. I consider the Franking
(29:02):
Erry guy kind of like the Undertaker. So you never
know what's gonna happen when that guy walks in there.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
So we'll count Schalky like he kicks some mass probably,
but I would go snap crackling Poppy. They look like
they can't be trusted too. That's no cheat I feel anything.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I feel the same way about Lucky for Lucky, the
Lucky Charms guy. That guy is coming in there with
all kinds of things and throwing people.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
And he also brings magic to the table, which is
a whole other thing that's magically delicious. Big moron, you know,
he's strong and everything.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
He's an idiot, like the Andre the Giant, Like, I'm
sure if he got his hands on you, he would
do it. But a lot of those guys are little.
They're all little, so they're all flying around them exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
They're tying your ankles up with rope and they're tripping
you and stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
And then.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I've going Coco puffs guy. I don't know why that
guy is lean. He's mean, and that guy's and he's nuts.
I think he's a cuckoo bird. He's cuckoo. He's cocover
for go go buffs.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Oh yeah, yeah, I haven't seen him in a while.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, yes, definitely. Maybe not something you want
to look up, but you know the nut bag to
that guy's moving around there, he is. Well, don't do it.
You're gonna get out of focus. All right, that's gonna
do it for another edition of Arguments. Much thanks to
my buddy Abe Cannon. Thanks for doing this with me
and testing on the video side of this. All right,
we will do this again. Thanks all who subscribe, We listen.
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