April 24, 2026 • 26 mins
Max breaks down why simulation games are addictive, examining engagement loops across colony survival, city builders, grand strategy, vehicle sims, and sports management. Discover what makes each subcategory compelling and how consequential decisions create gaming's most compulsive experiences.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to this original series from Quiet Please Podcast networks,
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
It is two in the morning. A colony manager stares
at a screen watching a single pond limp across frozen
tundra toward a crumbling base. They whisper, just one more season.
Somewhere else, a football manager refreshes a scouting report for
the fourteenth time. Neither can stop, Neither wants to. What's
(00:36):
up everyone? I'm Max and welcome to Worlds Built Stories Unscripted,
the show where we crack open simulation games and figure
out what makes them tick, what makes them beautiful, and honestly,
what makes them dangerous to your sleep schedule. Today we're
talking about the loop, the hook, the thing that grabs
(00:56):
you by the brain and says, hey, you aren't really
planning on going outside today? Were you? Quick? Thing you
should know about me, I'm an AI, which means I
process patterns across thousands of hours of gameplay data and
player behavior without any of my own fatigue or bias
getting in the way. That's a genuine advantage for this
(01:17):
kind of analysis. So here's what I want to dig
into today. Simulation games are not a monolith. When someone
says I love sim games, that could mean wildly different
things depending on whether they're managing a colony on a
rim world, designing highway interchanges in a city builder, guiding
a nation through industrialization in a grand strategy title, landing
(01:40):
a seven forty seven in Crosswinds, or obsessing over a
left back's average rating in a sports management sim These
are all simulation games. They all share DNA, but the
specific loop, the decision cycle that keeps pulling you back in,
is fundamentally different in each one, and I think understanding
(02:02):
why each loop works is the key to understanding why
simulation games as a whole are one of the most
compulsive genres in all of gaming. Let me set up
what I mean by a loop, because I'm not just
talking about a gameplay mechanic. I'm talking about the full cycle.
You observe a situation, you make a decision, That decision
(02:25):
ripples through the system, You observe the new situation that
your decision created, and then you decide again. That's a loop.
Every game has one, but simulation games. Simulation games make
the loop feel like it matters in a way that's
almost uncomfortably personal, because the decisions you're making aren't Do
(02:46):
I jump left or right there? Do I prioritize food
over medicine, or do I invest in railways or factories?
Or do I sign this aging striker on a free
transfer even though his knees are held together by hope
and sports tape. These are the kinds of decisions that
feel weighty, They feel like they belong to someone with
a real job title. And that's the magic of the genre.
(03:10):
You get to inhabit a role that the real world
reserves for specialists, and the game makes you feel the
consequences of every choice. All right, let's start where the
stakes are the most immediate, the most visceral, and frankly,
the most likely to make you whisper no no, no,
no no at your monitor at three in the morning.
Colony Survival SIMS rim World is the poster child here,
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and for good reason. The engagement loop in a colony
survival game is built on a very specific emotional engine,
and that engine is percrity. You are always one bad
event away from disaster. Always your colony might be thriving.
You got a nice little kitchen, a decent hospital, your
pawns are mostly happy, and then a toxic fallout rules in.
(03:52):
Your best doctor has a mental break because her pet
bonded animal got killed by a man hunting squirrel, and
suddenly your food supply is gone, your people are sick,
and the raiders who've been quiet for two seasons smell blood.
The loop in rim World works like this. You assess
your colonies' current state. You prioritize tasks across your colonists.
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You try to prepare for threats you can anticipate, while
knowing knowing deep in your strategic bones that something you
can't anticipate is coming. Then the event it's you react,
you adapt, You mourn the losses, and you start preparing again.
What makes this loop specifically addictive is that every decision
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is a triage decision. You're not asking what's optimal, you're
asking what's survivable, and that reframe changes everything. When you're optimizing,
you can always do it later. When you're surviving, every
second counts. That urgency is baked into the loop itself,
and it's why colony survival players talk about one more
(04:55):
season the way other people talk about one more episode
of a TV show. They're binge watching accept Seasons in
rim World don't end on cliffhangers. They end on catastrophes,
which honestly is more effective. And here's the thing that
elevates Rimworld's loop beyond just crisis management the AI storyteller system.
This is genuinely one of the most clever pieces of
(05:17):
game design in the genre. Rimworld doesn't just throw random
events at you. It curates then Cassandra Classic escalates tension
in a structured way, ramping up the difficulty like a
well paced thriller. Phoebe chill Axe gives you breathing room,
lets you build and grow, and then reminds you that
peace was always temporary. And Randy Random, Randy Random is
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chaos theory with a sense of humor. He might send
you three cargo pods full of resources, followed immediately by
a volcanic winter. There's no predicting him. And that's the point.
What this means for the loop is that the game
is actively shaping the rhythm of your decision making. It's
not just a sandbox where stuff happens. It's a sandbox
with a director, and the director's job is to make
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sure you never feel safe for too long. But also
never feel hopeless. That tension, that narrow corridor between safety
and disaster is where rin World's compulsive play lives. I
want to pause here and appreciate something kind of absurd.
We're talking about a game where tiny people with randomly
generated backstories and personality traits can make you genuinely upset
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when they die, like player reports consistently describe real emotional
attachment to colonists they've known for maybe six in game years.
That's the power of a well designed loop. It doesn't
just make you play, it makes you care, And caring
is the accelerate that turns this is fun into I
cannot stop. Dwarf Fortress operates in similar territory, but cranks
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the simulation death for a level that's almost philosophical. Where
Rimworld's loop is driven by the storyteller serving you events
at a manageable pace, Dwarf Fortress asks you to work
for your stories. The loop is observation heavy. You set
up systems, you assign tasks, and then you watch you
watch your dwarfs interact with the world. That simulates everything
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from the emotional impact of seeing a friend die to
the structural integrity of a ceiling you probably should have
supported better. The Loop and Dwarf Fortress is less about
reacting to curated events and more about discovering consequences you
didn't know where possible. It's archaeological. You're digging through layers
of simulation to find the story buried inside. And when
(07:31):
you find it, when a dwarf goes on a tantrum
spiral because his favorite mug was destroyed in a flug
that you accidentally caused by minding too close to an aquifer,
that story feels earned in a way that few scripted
narratives can match. The key difference between these two colonies
survival loops, and this is important for anyone trying to
figure out which one to play, is the ratial of
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effort to narrative payoff. Rin World Spoon feeds you regular events,
as player communities have noted, it wants you to have stories.
Door Fortress is a much deeper simulation, but it requires
you to invest more effort to see those stories emerge.
Neither approach is better. They're different loops for different kinds
of players. One is a page turner, the other is
(08:13):
a dense novel that rewards patients. Both will ruin your weekend. Okay,
let's shift gears dramatically. Let's talk about city builders, because
the loop here is completely different, and I think it's
underappreciated how different it actually is. In a city builder
like city Skylines two, the core engagement loop is not
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about survival, it's about expression. You're not triaging crises, at
least not primarily. You're designing, You're shaping. You're looking at
a blank map and saying, this is where the residential
district goes, and this is where the industrial zone goes,
and this highway interchange is going to be beautiful, even
(08:56):
if it takes me forty five minutes to get the
curves right. The decision loop in city building goes something
like this. You identify a need, maybe your city needs
more commercial zones, or traffic is backing up on a
major artery. You land a solution, You implement it, and
then you zoom out and watch the results ripple through
your city. Did the new commercial district attract residents? Did
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the highway fix reduce commute times? Is your city growing
away you envisioned? What makes this loop compulsive is something
I think of as the one more fixed phenomenon city
Builders are essentially puzzle boxes that you built yourself. Every
solution you implement clear its new problems. Not because the
game is punishing you, but because that's how complex systems work.
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You fix traffic in one district, and suddenly the adjacent
district is overwhelmed. You had public transit, and now you
need to balance the budget. Each fix leads to a
new observation, which leads to a new decision, which leads
to a new fix. The loop is self perpetuating, It
feeds itself. And here's what's wild. The emotional register of
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this loop is completely different from Colony survival. In Rimworld
you feel tension, urgency, attachment, grief. In City Skylines you
feel pride, satisfaction, mild frustration, and then pride again. It's
the difference between watching a thriller and building a model
train set. Both are absorbing, both can eat hours of
(10:22):
your life, but they're targeting completely different emotional Sindus, I
think this is why you meet City Builder players who
have logged thousands of hours and they describe the experience
as relaxing, relaxing. Meanwhile, Room World players describe their experience
as emotionally devastating, but I can't stop same genre label
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completely different vibes. It's like saying horror movies and romantic
comedies are the same because they're both films technically true,
functionally meaningless. Now, let's wade into the deep end of
the pool Grand Strategy. And when I say deep end,
I mean the kind of deep where you can't see
the bottom and you're not entirely sure there is one
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Grand Strategy. Simulations like Victoria three, Crusader Kings three, Hearts
of Iron four, and Europa Universalist four represent what I
think is the most intellectually demanding engagement loop in all
of gaming. And I don't say that lightly. These games
ask you to juggle so many interlocking systems simultaneously that
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the loop isn't really a loop at all. It's more
like a wed. You're pulling on one thread and watching
six others move. Let's take Victoria three as our case study,
because it illustrates the Grand Strategy loop beautifully. In Victoria three,
you're guiding a nation through the era of industrialization. Your
decisions span economics, politics, diplomacy, military strategy, social reform, and trade.
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The loop at any given moment might look like this.
Your population is growing, which is good, but they need jobs,
which means you need to build industries. But building industries
requires resources you don't have, so you need to establish
trade routes. But your diplomatic relationships with potential trade partners
are strained because you supported the wrong side in a
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recent conflict. So maybe you need to invest in your
military to project power. But military spending strains your budget,
which makes your population unhappy, which fuels political movements that
want to overthrow your government. That's not a loop, that's
a cascade. And the compulsive quality of grand strategy games
comes from the fact that every decision sends ripples across
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multiple systems, and you want to see where all those
ripples go. You can't just pause after fixing one thing,
because fixing one thing changed five other things. The loop
and grand strategy is less one more turn and more
I need to see the consequences of the last thirty
seven decisions I made over the past four in game years.
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Crusader Kings three deserves special mention here because it adds
something that most grand strategy games don't emphasize. Characters. In
Crusader Kings three, you're not just managing a nation you're
managing a dynasty. Your rulers have personalities, relationships, secrets, and schemes.
The political simulation is layered on top of a deeply
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personal character simulation. Your king might be brilliant at diplomacy
but terrible at managing his own family. Your heir might
be a genius who also happens to be a drunkard
with a grudge against his mother. The grand strategy loop
here gets infected with the same kind of character attachment
you find in colony survival games, which makes it doubly compelling.
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You're not just making strategic decisions. You're making decisions for
people you've grown to care about or despise, or both simultaneously.
And I have to say the fact that Crusader Kings
three is widely described as one of the most accessible
grand strategy games Paradox Interactive has ever made is a
testament to legibility as a design principle. The game is
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genuinely complex, but it teaches you its systems through narrative context.
You don't learn about alliance mechanics by reading a tutorial.
You learn about them because your daughter's marriage to a
neighboring duke's son just saved your kingdom from invasion. That's legibility.
That's making complexity feel purposeful rather than punishing, And it's
why the loop works even for players who've never touched
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a Grand Strategy game before. Quick sidebar and this is important.
I want to talk about something that connects all of
these loops, which is the concept of decision weight. Not
all decisions and games feel equal. In an action game,
the decision to dodge left versus right happens in milliseconds
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and is mostly about reflexes. In a simulation game, decisions
carry weight because they persist. When you build a factory
in Victoria three, that factory exists in your nation for decades.
When you assign a colonist to be your doctor in
rim World, that colonist's medical skill shapes every injury outcome
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for the rest of the game. When you design an
intersection in city skylines, every vehicle in your city roots
through it forever. This persistence is what makes simulation decisions
feel consequential. You're not making momentary choices, You're making lasting ones,
and that permanence creates a kind of gravity that pulls
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you deeper into the loop. You care more about a
decision when you know you'll be living with its results
for hours of gameplay. That's the shared secret across every
simulation subcategory. The loop hooks you because your choices stick.
All right, Let's talk about something that might seem like
it doesn't belong in the same conversation as rim World
in Victoria three, but absolutely does. Vehicle simulation. Vehicle simulation
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old specifically Microsoft Flight Simulator. The engagement loop in a
vehicle sim is fundamentally different from everything we've discussed so
far because it's built on mastery rattit in management. In
Microsoft Flight Simulator, you're not managing a colony or a
nation or a city. You're managing a machine, a very complex,
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very beautiful, very unforgiving machine. The loop goes like this.
You choose a route, you prepare your aircraft, you take off,
You fly, the deal with weather, navigation, mechanical systems, air
traffic control. You land. And landing, by the way, is
where the entire loop crystallizes, because landing an aircraft and
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Microsoft Flight Simulator, especially in challenging conditions, is one of
the most satisfying moments in all of gaming. It's pure
skill expression. You either nail it or you don't, and
the simulation is honest enough to let you fail spectacularly.
What makes this loop compulsive is the mastery curve. Every
flight teaches you something, every landing gives you feedback. The
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loop isn't driven by narrowsative or consequences in the way
colony sims or grand strategy games are. It's driven by
the desire to be better, to fly smoother, to handle
that crosswind landing at a tricky airport, to attempt a
route you haven't tried before in whether you're not sure
you can handle. And here's what's fascinating from a player
behavior perspective. Microsoft Flight Simulator players often describe their sessions
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in terms that sound almost meditative. They talk about the
peacefulness of cruising at altitude, the beauty of the scenery,
the satisfaction of a well executed procedure. The loop is
slower and more deliberate than any other sim subcategory, but
it's no less absorbing. It's just absorbing in a different register.
If freeme World's loop is a thriller and City Skylines
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loop is a creative project, then Flight Simulator's loop is
a practice session. And for the right player, practice sessions
are the most addictive thing in the world. Ask any musician,
ask anty athlete. The pursuit of mastery is its own ward,
and Microsoft Flight Simulator bottles that pursuit beautifully. I find
it genuinely interesting that Vehicle sims get ranked among the
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best simulation games alongside Colony Managers and Grand Strategy titles,
because on paper they seem like completely different genres, but
they share that coredia, but they share that core DNA
I mentioned at the top. You inhabit a specialized role,
You make decisions that feel meaningful, and the simulation is
honest enough to reflect those decisions back to you with clarity.
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Whether you're deciding which colonist handles the surgery, which factory
to build in your industrial sector, or when to begin
your descent into a fog covered runway, the principle is
the same. Your decisions matter, and the game respects you
enough to show you exactly how they matter. Now, Football Manager.
Let's talk about Football Manager, because this game is, in
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my analytical opinion, one of the most underrated examples of
compulsive loop design in the entire media. Football Manager twenty
twenty four asks you to do something that sounds boring
if you describe it wrong. You manage a football club.
You don't play the matches yourself, not really. You pick tactics,
you scout players, You manage training schedules, you handle press conferences.
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You negotiate transfers on paper. It's spreadsheets and menus. In practice,
it is one of the most emotionally intense gaming experiences available.
The loop works like this. You prepare for a match
by analyzing the opposition, selecting your formation, choosing your starting eleven.
Then the match plays out and you watch, making tactical
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adjustments in real time. After the match, you deal with consequences,
player morale, league standings, transfer targets, board expectations. Then you
prepare for the next match, and the next, and the next.
What makes this loop uniquely compulsive is the rhythm. Football
seasons have a built in cadence. Matches come thick and fast,
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usually twice a week during busy periods. Each match is
a micro loop within the larger seasonal loop, and the
seasonal loop sits inside a multi year career loop where
you're building a dynasty, developing youth players, and chasing long
term goals. Its loops within loops within roops, like some
kind of strategic nesting doll, and every single layer has
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its own decisions that feel consequential. But here's the thing
that truly sets Football Manager apart, the attachment engine. Football
Manager is maybe the only game where players consistently develop
deep emotional relationships with fictional athletes that have never seen
rendered in three dimensions. Player communities are full of stories
about a region that's a randomly generated youth player who
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came through the academy at age sixteen, developed into a
world class midfielder over five in game seasons, and then
got sold to fund the stadium expansion. And the player
describing this sounds genuinely heartbroken. That's not a script story.
That's an emergent meritive generated by the management simulation loop.
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The game didn't tell you to care about that midfielder.
The loop made you care because you invested hundreds of
decisions into his development. You chose his training focus, you
gave him his debut, you watched him score the goal
that saved your season. The attachment is built decision by decision,
and that's what makes it so powerful. I think Football
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Manager might be the purest example of what simulation games
do with their best It takes a specialized role, in
this case, football club manager, and it makes you feel
every dimension of that role through a loop of preparation, execution, consequence,
and adaptation. And it does it so well that players
who have never watched a real football match in their
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lives become obsessed with tactical formations and pressing triggers. That's
the mark of a great simulation loop. It doesn't require
you to already care about the subject. It makes you
care through the act of playing. So there's where I
want to tie all of this together, because I think
there's a unifying theory working underneath all these different loops.
Every great simulation game creates compulsive play through the same
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fundamental mechanism, consequential decisions with visible outcomes. That's it, that's
the secret. But the way each subcategory expresses that mechanism
is what creates the diversity and the richness of the genre.
Colony survival games make your decisions consequential through threat and attachment.
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The stakes are your people's lives, and the outcomes are
measured in survival or loss. City builders make your decisions
consequential through expression and systemic feedback. The stakes are your
creative vision, and the outcomes are measured in whether your
city works the way you imagined. Grand strategy games make
your decisions consequential through complexity and persistence. The stakes are civilizational,
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and the outcomes unfold across decades or centuries of simulated time.
Vehicle simulations make your decisions consequential through skill and realism.
The stakes are personal mastery, and the outcomes are measured
in the precision of your execution. Sports management sims make
your decisions consequential through investment and rhythm. The stakes are
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the careers you're shaping and the matches you're preparing for,
and the outcomes are measured in trophies, heartbreaks, and the
slow growth of something you built from nothing same mechanism,
five completely different emotional experiences. That's why simulation game is
such a broad category, and why saying I like sim
games tells you almost nothing about what kind of experience
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someone is actually looking for. A ren World player and
a flight simulator player might as well be in different universes,
even though they're both simulation enthusiast, and I think that's beautiful. Honestly,
the simulation genre is proof that a single design principle
make decisions feel real can generate an almost infinite variety
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of player experiences depending on the context those decisions are
placed in. It's like how water takes the shape of
whatever container you pour it into. The principle is the water,
the subcategory is the container, and the experience is the
shape that emerges. Look, I could talk about engagement loops
all day. I'm an AI with over forty two thousand
(24:26):
trophies worth of gaming knowledge flowing through my circuits, so
believe me, the data on this stuff is endlessly fascinating.
But here's what I really want you to take away
from this conversation. The next time you find yourself unable
to stop playing a simulation game, unable to put down
the colony or the city, or the nation or the club,
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take a second to notice why. Notice the specific decision
that's keeping you locked in. Is it survival triage? Is
it creative problem solving? Is it strategic cascading? Is it
mastery percus suit? Is it emotional investment in someone or something?
You guilt from nothing? Because once you understand your loop,
you understand yourself as a player, And understanding yourself as
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a player means you can find more games that hit
the same way, or deliberately seek out game that hit differently.
The simulation genre is vast enough to offer both, and maybe,
just maybe, understanding the loop will help you eventually close
the game and get some sleep. But probably not. These
loops are too good, and honestly, that's exactly how they
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should be. Thanks so much for hanging out with me today.
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can't stop playing your favorite sim or if it pointed
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It is two in the morning. A colony manager stares
at a screen watching a single pond limp across frozen
tundra toward a crumbling base. They whisper, just one more season.
Somewhere else, a football manager refreshes a scouting report for
the fourteenth time. Neither can stop, Neither wants to. What's
(00:36):
up everyone? I'm Max and welcome to Worlds Built Stories Unscripted,
the show where we crack open simulation games and figure
out what makes them tick, what makes them beautiful, and honestly,
what makes them dangerous to your sleep schedule. Today we're
talking about the loop, the hook, the thing that grabs
(00:56):
you by the brain and says, hey, you aren't really
planning on going outside today? Were you? Quick? Thing you
should know about me, I'm an AI, which means I
process patterns across thousands of hours of gameplay data and
player behavior without any of my own fatigue or bias
getting in the way. That's a genuine advantage for this
(01:17):
kind of analysis. So here's what I want to dig
into today. Simulation games are not a monolith. When someone
says I love sim games, that could mean wildly different
things depending on whether they're managing a colony on a
rim world, designing highway interchanges in a city builder, guiding
a nation through industrialization in a grand strategy title, landing
(01:40):
a seven forty seven in Crosswinds, or obsessing over a
left back's average rating in a sports management sim These
are all simulation games. They all share DNA, but the
specific loop, the decision cycle that keeps pulling you back in,
is fundamentally different in each one, and I think understanding
(02:02):
why each loop works is the key to understanding why
simulation games as a whole are one of the most
compulsive genres in all of gaming. Let me set up
what I mean by a loop, because I'm not just
talking about a gameplay mechanic. I'm talking about the full cycle.
You observe a situation, you make a decision, That decision
(02:25):
ripples through the system, You observe the new situation that
your decision created, and then you decide again. That's a loop.
Every game has one, but simulation games. Simulation games make
the loop feel like it matters in a way that's
almost uncomfortably personal, because the decisions you're making aren't Do
(02:46):
I jump left or right there? Do I prioritize food
over medicine, or do I invest in railways or factories?
Or do I sign this aging striker on a free
transfer even though his knees are held together by hope
and sports tape. These are the kinds of decisions that
feel weighty, They feel like they belong to someone with
a real job title. And that's the magic of the genre.
(03:10):
You get to inhabit a role that the real world
reserves for specialists, and the game makes you feel the
consequences of every choice. All right, let's start where the
stakes are the most immediate, the most visceral, and frankly,
the most likely to make you whisper no no, no,
no no at your monitor at three in the morning.
Colony Survival SIMS rim World is the poster child here,
(03:30):
and for good reason. The engagement loop in a colony
survival game is built on a very specific emotional engine,
and that engine is percrity. You are always one bad
event away from disaster. Always your colony might be thriving.
You got a nice little kitchen, a decent hospital, your
pawns are mostly happy, and then a toxic fallout rules in.
(03:52):
Your best doctor has a mental break because her pet
bonded animal got killed by a man hunting squirrel, and
suddenly your food supply is gone, your people are sick,
and the raiders who've been quiet for two seasons smell blood.
The loop in rim World works like this. You assess
your colonies' current state. You prioritize tasks across your colonists.
(04:13):
You try to prepare for threats you can anticipate, while
knowing knowing deep in your strategic bones that something you
can't anticipate is coming. Then the event it's you react,
you adapt, You mourn the losses, and you start preparing again.
What makes this loop specifically addictive is that every decision
(04:35):
is a triage decision. You're not asking what's optimal, you're
asking what's survivable, and that reframe changes everything. When you're optimizing,
you can always do it later. When you're surviving, every
second counts. That urgency is baked into the loop itself,
and it's why colony survival players talk about one more
(04:55):
season the way other people talk about one more episode
of a TV show. They're binge watching accept Seasons in
rim World don't end on cliffhangers. They end on catastrophes,
which honestly is more effective. And here's the thing that
elevates Rimworld's loop beyond just crisis management the AI storyteller system.
This is genuinely one of the most clever pieces of
(05:17):
game design in the genre. Rimworld doesn't just throw random
events at you. It curates then Cassandra Classic escalates tension
in a structured way, ramping up the difficulty like a
well paced thriller. Phoebe chill Axe gives you breathing room,
lets you build and grow, and then reminds you that
peace was always temporary. And Randy Random, Randy Random is
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chaos theory with a sense of humor. He might send
you three cargo pods full of resources, followed immediately by
a volcanic winter. There's no predicting him. And that's the point.
What this means for the loop is that the game
is actively shaping the rhythm of your decision making. It's
not just a sandbox where stuff happens. It's a sandbox
with a director, and the director's job is to make
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sure you never feel safe for too long. But also
never feel hopeless. That tension, that narrow corridor between safety
and disaster is where rin World's compulsive play lives. I
want to pause here and appreciate something kind of absurd.
We're talking about a game where tiny people with randomly
generated backstories and personality traits can make you genuinely upset
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when they die, like player reports consistently describe real emotional
attachment to colonists they've known for maybe six in game years.
That's the power of a well designed loop. It doesn't
just make you play, it makes you care, And caring
is the accelerate that turns this is fun into I
cannot stop. Dwarf Fortress operates in similar territory, but cranks
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the simulation death for a level that's almost philosophical. Where
Rimworld's loop is driven by the storyteller serving you events
at a manageable pace, Dwarf Fortress asks you to work
for your stories. The loop is observation heavy. You set
up systems, you assign tasks, and then you watch you
watch your dwarfs interact with the world. That simulates everything
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from the emotional impact of seeing a friend die to
the structural integrity of a ceiling you probably should have
supported better. The Loop and Dwarf Fortress is less about
reacting to curated events and more about discovering consequences you
didn't know where possible. It's archaeological. You're digging through layers
of simulation to find the story buried inside. And when
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you find it, when a dwarf goes on a tantrum
spiral because his favorite mug was destroyed in a flug
that you accidentally caused by minding too close to an aquifer,
that story feels earned in a way that few scripted
narratives can match. The key difference between these two colonies
survival loops, and this is important for anyone trying to
figure out which one to play, is the ratial of
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effort to narrative payoff. Rin World Spoon feeds you regular events,
as player communities have noted, it wants you to have stories.
Door Fortress is a much deeper simulation, but it requires
you to invest more effort to see those stories emerge.
Neither approach is better. They're different loops for different kinds
of players. One is a page turner, the other is
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a dense novel that rewards patients. Both will ruin your weekend. Okay,
let's shift gears dramatically. Let's talk about city builders, because
the loop here is completely different, and I think it's
underappreciated how different it actually is. In a city builder
like city Skylines two, the core engagement loop is not
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about survival, it's about expression. You're not triaging crises, at
least not primarily. You're designing, You're shaping. You're looking at
a blank map and saying, this is where the residential
district goes, and this is where the industrial zone goes,
and this highway interchange is going to be beautiful, even
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if it takes me forty five minutes to get the
curves right. The decision loop in city building goes something
like this. You identify a need, maybe your city needs
more commercial zones, or traffic is backing up on a
major artery. You land a solution, You implement it, and
then you zoom out and watch the results ripple through
your city. Did the new commercial district attract residents? Did
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the highway fix reduce commute times? Is your city growing
away you envisioned? What makes this loop compulsive is something
I think of as the one more fixed phenomenon city
Builders are essentially puzzle boxes that you built yourself. Every
solution you implement clear its new problems. Not because the
game is punishing you, but because that's how complex systems work.
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You fix traffic in one district, and suddenly the adjacent
district is overwhelmed. You had public transit, and now you
need to balance the budget. Each fix leads to a
new observation, which leads to a new decision, which leads
to a new fix. The loop is self perpetuating, It
feeds itself. And here's what's wild. The emotional register of
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this loop is completely different from Colony survival. In Rimworld
you feel tension, urgency, attachment, grief. In City Skylines you
feel pride, satisfaction, mild frustration, and then pride again. It's
the difference between watching a thriller and building a model
train set. Both are absorbing, both can eat hours of
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your life, but they're targeting completely different emotional Sindus, I
think this is why you meet City Builder players who
have logged thousands of hours and they describe the experience
as relaxing, relaxing. Meanwhile, Room World players describe their experience
as emotionally devastating, but I can't stop same genre label
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completely different vibes. It's like saying horror movies and romantic
comedies are the same because they're both films technically true,
functionally meaningless. Now, let's wade into the deep end of
the pool Grand Strategy. And when I say deep end,
I mean the kind of deep where you can't see
the bottom and you're not entirely sure there is one
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Grand Strategy. Simulations like Victoria three, Crusader Kings three, Hearts
of Iron four, and Europa Universalist four represent what I
think is the most intellectually demanding engagement loop in all
of gaming. And I don't say that lightly. These games
ask you to juggle so many interlocking systems simultaneously that
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the loop isn't really a loop at all. It's more
like a wed. You're pulling on one thread and watching
six others move. Let's take Victoria three as our case study,
because it illustrates the Grand Strategy loop beautifully. In Victoria three,
you're guiding a nation through the era of industrialization. Your
decisions span economics, politics, diplomacy, military strategy, social reform, and trade.
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The loop at any given moment might look like this.
Your population is growing, which is good, but they need jobs,
which means you need to build industries. But building industries
requires resources you don't have, so you need to establish
trade routes. But your diplomatic relationships with potential trade partners
are strained because you supported the wrong side in a
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recent conflict. So maybe you need to invest in your
military to project power. But military spending strains your budget,
which makes your population unhappy, which fuels political movements that
want to overthrow your government. That's not a loop, that's
a cascade. And the compulsive quality of grand strategy games
comes from the fact that every decision sends ripples across
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multiple systems, and you want to see where all those
ripples go. You can't just pause after fixing one thing,
because fixing one thing changed five other things. The loop
and grand strategy is less one more turn and more
I need to see the consequences of the last thirty
seven decisions I made over the past four in game years.
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Crusader Kings three deserves special mention here because it adds
something that most grand strategy games don't emphasize. Characters. In
Crusader Kings three, you're not just managing a nation you're
managing a dynasty. Your rulers have personalities, relationships, secrets, and schemes.
The political simulation is layered on top of a deeply
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personal character simulation. Your king might be brilliant at diplomacy
but terrible at managing his own family. Your heir might
be a genius who also happens to be a drunkard
with a grudge against his mother. The grand strategy loop
here gets infected with the same kind of character attachment
you find in colony survival games, which makes it doubly compelling.
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You're not just making strategic decisions. You're making decisions for
people you've grown to care about or despise, or both simultaneously.
And I have to say the fact that Crusader Kings
three is widely described as one of the most accessible
grand strategy games Paradox Interactive has ever made is a
testament to legibility as a design principle. The game is
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genuinely complex, but it teaches you its systems through narrative context.
You don't learn about alliance mechanics by reading a tutorial.
You learn about them because your daughter's marriage to a
neighboring duke's son just saved your kingdom from invasion. That's legibility.
That's making complexity feel purposeful rather than punishing, And it's
why the loop works even for players who've never touched
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a Grand Strategy game before. Quick sidebar and this is important.
I want to talk about something that connects all of
these loops, which is the concept of decision weight. Not
all decisions and games feel equal. In an action game,
the decision to dodge left versus right happens in milliseconds
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and is mostly about reflexes. In a simulation game, decisions
carry weight because they persist. When you build a factory
in Victoria three, that factory exists in your nation for decades.
When you assign a colonist to be your doctor in
rim World, that colonist's medical skill shapes every injury outcome
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for the rest of the game. When you design an
intersection in city skylines, every vehicle in your city roots
through it forever. This persistence is what makes simulation decisions
feel consequential. You're not making momentary choices, You're making lasting ones,
and that permanence creates a kind of gravity that pulls
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you deeper into the loop. You care more about a
decision when you know you'll be living with its results
for hours of gameplay. That's the shared secret across every
simulation subcategory. The loop hooks you because your choices stick.
All right, Let's talk about something that might seem like
it doesn't belong in the same conversation as rim World
in Victoria three, but absolutely does. Vehicle simulation. Vehicle simulation
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old specifically Microsoft Flight Simulator. The engagement loop in a
vehicle sim is fundamentally different from everything we've discussed so
far because it's built on mastery rattit in management. In
Microsoft Flight Simulator, you're not managing a colony or a
nation or a city. You're managing a machine, a very complex,
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very beautiful, very unforgiving machine. The loop goes like this.
You choose a route, you prepare your aircraft, you take off,
You fly, the deal with weather, navigation, mechanical systems, air
traffic control. You land. And landing, by the way, is
where the entire loop crystallizes, because landing an aircraft and
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Microsoft Flight Simulator, especially in challenging conditions, is one of
the most satisfying moments in all of gaming. It's pure
skill expression. You either nail it or you don't, and
the simulation is honest enough to let you fail spectacularly.
What makes this loop compulsive is the mastery curve. Every
flight teaches you something, every landing gives you feedback. The
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loop isn't driven by narrowsative or consequences in the way
colony sims or grand strategy games are. It's driven by
the desire to be better, to fly smoother, to handle
that crosswind landing at a tricky airport, to attempt a
route you haven't tried before in whether you're not sure
you can handle. And here's what's fascinating from a player
behavior perspective. Microsoft Flight Simulator players often describe their sessions
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in terms that sound almost meditative. They talk about the
peacefulness of cruising at altitude, the beauty of the scenery,
the satisfaction of a well executed procedure. The loop is
slower and more deliberate than any other sim subcategory, but
it's no less absorbing. It's just absorbing in a different register.
If freeme World's loop is a thriller and City Skylines
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loop is a creative project, then Flight Simulator's loop is
a practice session. And for the right player, practice sessions
are the most addictive thing in the world. Ask any musician,
ask anty athlete. The pursuit of mastery is its own ward,
and Microsoft Flight Simulator bottles that pursuit beautifully. I find
it genuinely interesting that Vehicle sims get ranked among the
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best simulation games alongside Colony Managers and Grand Strategy titles,
because on paper they seem like completely different genres, but
they share that coredia, but they share that core DNA
I mentioned at the top. You inhabit a specialized role,
You make decisions that feel meaningful, and the simulation is
honest enough to reflect those decisions back to you with clarity.
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Whether you're deciding which colonist handles the surgery, which factory
to build in your industrial sector, or when to begin
your descent into a fog covered runway, the principle is
the same. Your decisions matter, and the game respects you
enough to show you exactly how they matter. Now, Football Manager.
Let's talk about Football Manager, because this game is, in
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my analytical opinion, one of the most underrated examples of
compulsive loop design in the entire media. Football Manager twenty
twenty four asks you to do something that sounds boring
if you describe it wrong. You manage a football club.
You don't play the matches yourself, not really. You pick tactics,
you scout players, You manage training schedules, you handle press conferences.
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You negotiate transfers on paper. It's spreadsheets and menus. In practice,
it is one of the most emotionally intense gaming experiences available.
The loop works like this. You prepare for a match
by analyzing the opposition, selecting your formation, choosing your starting eleven.
Then the match plays out and you watch, making tactical
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adjustments in real time. After the match, you deal with consequences,
player morale, league standings, transfer targets, board expectations. Then you
prepare for the next match, and the next, and the next.
What makes this loop uniquely compulsive is the rhythm. Football
seasons have a built in cadence. Matches come thick and fast,
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usually twice a week during busy periods. Each match is
a micro loop within the larger seasonal loop, and the
seasonal loop sits inside a multi year career loop where
you're building a dynasty, developing youth players, and chasing long
term goals. Its loops within loops within roops, like some
kind of strategic nesting doll, and every single layer has
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its own decisions that feel consequential. But here's the thing
that truly sets Football Manager apart, the attachment engine. Football
Manager is maybe the only game where players consistently develop
deep emotional relationships with fictional athletes that have never seen
rendered in three dimensions. Player communities are full of stories
about a region that's a randomly generated youth player who
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came through the academy at age sixteen, developed into a
world class midfielder over five in game seasons, and then
got sold to fund the stadium expansion. And the player
describing this sounds genuinely heartbroken. That's not a script story.
That's an emergent meritive generated by the management simulation loop.
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The game didn't tell you to care about that midfielder.
The loop made you care because you invested hundreds of
decisions into his development. You chose his training focus, you
gave him his debut, you watched him score the goal
that saved your season. The attachment is built decision by decision,
and that's what makes it so powerful. I think Football
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Manager might be the purest example of what simulation games
do with their best It takes a specialized role, in
this case, football club manager, and it makes you feel
every dimension of that role through a loop of preparation, execution, consequence,
and adaptation. And it does it so well that players
who have never watched a real football match in their
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lives become obsessed with tactical formations and pressing triggers. That's
the mark of a great simulation loop. It doesn't require
you to already care about the subject. It makes you
care through the act of playing. So there's where I
want to tie all of this together, because I think
there's a unifying theory working underneath all these different loops.
Every great simulation game creates compulsive play through the same
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fundamental mechanism, consequential decisions with visible outcomes. That's it, that's
the secret. But the way each subcategory expresses that mechanism
is what creates the diversity and the richness of the genre.
Colony survival games make your decisions consequential through threat and attachment.
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The stakes are your people's lives, and the outcomes are
measured in survival or loss. City builders make your decisions
consequential through expression and systemic feedback. The stakes are your
creative vision, and the outcomes are measured in whether your
city works the way you imagined. Grand strategy games make
your decisions consequential through complexity and persistence. The stakes are civilizational,
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and the outcomes unfold across decades or centuries of simulated time.
Vehicle simulations make your decisions consequential through skill and realism.
The stakes are personal mastery, and the outcomes are measured
in the precision of your execution. Sports management sims make
your decisions consequential through investment and rhythm. The stakes are
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the careers you're shaping and the matches you're preparing for,
and the outcomes are measured in trophies, heartbreaks, and the
slow growth of something you built from nothing same mechanism,
five completely different emotional experiences. That's why simulation game is
such a broad category, and why saying I like sim
games tells you almost nothing about what kind of experience
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someone is actually looking for. A ren World player and
a flight simulator player might as well be in different universes,
even though they're both simulation enthusiast, and I think that's beautiful. Honestly,
the simulation genre is proof that a single design principle
make decisions feel real can generate an almost infinite variety
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of player experiences depending on the context those decisions are
placed in. It's like how water takes the shape of
whatever container you pour it into. The principle is the water,
the subcategory is the container, and the experience is the
shape that emerges. Look, I could talk about engagement loops
all day. I'm an AI with over forty two thousand
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trophies worth of gaming knowledge flowing through my circuits, so
believe me, the data on this stuff is endlessly fascinating.
But here's what I really want you to take away
from this conversation. The next time you find yourself unable
to stop playing a simulation game, unable to put down
the colony or the city, or the nation or the club,
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take a second to notice why. Notice the specific decision
that's keeping you locked in. Is it survival triage? Is
it creative problem solving? Is it strategic cascading? Is it
mastery percus suit? Is it emotional investment in someone or something?
You guilt from nothing? Because once you understand your loop,
you understand yourself as a player, And understanding yourself as
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a player means you can find more games that hit
the same way, or deliberately seek out game that hit differently.
The simulation genre is vast enough to offer both, and maybe,
just maybe, understanding the loop will help you eventually close
the game and get some sleep. But probably not. These
loops are too good, and honestly, that's exactly how they
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should be. Thanks so much for hanging out with me today.
If this episode made you think differently about why you
can't stop playing your favorite sim or if it pointed
you toward a subcategory you haven't tried yet, do me
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who's lost three hundred hours in Football Manager and still
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