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June 12, 2025 26 mins
You crave freedom—time, creative, financial—but keep clinging to control. In this out-of-the-norm episode, I am going to walk you through the current energetic upgrade I'm experiencing and talk about what's required to build a 5D business. Less grip. More trust. Bigger results. What you’ll learn in this episode:
  • The difference between 3D and 5D business models
  • Why your control habit is blocking your goals
  • How to build safety in the unknown
  • The energetic shift to receive instead of force
  • Bri’s experiment in underworking and over-living
If you're looking to connect with a community of high-achievers that is doing life and business differently, join us for free in the Big Goal Energy app by visiting: http://briseeley.com/community
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Hello, Welcome back to Big Goal Energy. Today, I
want to take you a little bit deeper.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
I want to talk to the part of you that
craves freedom, time, freedom, creative freedom, financial freedom, but still
finds herself clinging tightly to control.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Over the last few months, you know, I've been going
through a bit of a reinvention, a quote unquote midlife crisis.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
And two of my guides and mentors mirrored back to
me something that has cracked my world wide open. And
when two different people, one from LA one from New York,
one a Kashak Records reader, one a business coach, very
very very different people, they do not know each other.

(00:48):
Those two circles do not overlap, they do not form
a Venn diagram. When the same very specific message comes
to me from two different places.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Like that, I have to listen. The sentence that each
of them shared with me was, Brie, you have built
a really beautiful business in the three D world, and
now it's time to build one in the five D world.
That one sentence has.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Shifted everything for me in the last few months. Because
the three D world, this physical realm that we live in,
is rooted in structure, hustle, productivity and control, and that's
where so many of us operate, especially solopreneurs.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
We build out every single part of our business from effort,
from pushing, and from gripping. But if we're talking about
moving into the fifth dimensional world, that is the realm
of flow, It's the realm of intuition, expansion, trust, the unknown.
The fifth dimensional world is where freedom lives. If you're

(01:56):
a regular listener, you know that I have been called
so deeply into this experience this year. I spent two
weeks maybe sitting seventeen chickens in Arkansas to physically force
myself into the unknown. As this episode is releasing, I'm
actually en route to Prescott, Arizona to do it again
sands the chickens. But still I have just been shown

(02:19):
again and again and again this year the big goals
and the vision I have, maybe the vision you have
as well, are not going to come through hustle, productivity
and control, which means that I have the opportunity to
live and flow purposeful aligned actions and the unknown. In
this episode today, I'm going to show you how that

(02:41):
control and that hustle and that gripping might be the
very thing blocking the freedom that we all say that
we want. We're going to explore how to begin shifting
our businesses and our identities from the three dimensional physical hustle,
get shit done world two the fifth dimensional energetic flow

(03:03):
freedom world, so that we can all finally breathe, we
can expand, and we can receive the bigness that we've
all been calling in. Let's go there together.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
You were never meant for a small life. You have
bold ideas, audacious dreams and visions that keep you up
at night. But the truth is, big goals don't come
with step by step instructions, and success doesn't come from
doing more. It comes from becoming more. Welcome to Big
Goal Energy a podcast for high achieving women who are
done shrinking, striving, and second guessing and are ready to

(03:36):
defy reality in pursuit of the life they actually want.
I'm your hostess, free Sealy, goal architect, subconscious strategist, and
your permission slip to want what you want. Join me
as we go beyond the surface level success to explore
the mindset, identity, and inner work required to bring your biggest,
most delulu goals to life. This is your space to

(03:59):
be seen, to be expanded, and to remember that you
are not alone on this journey. Let's get into.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
It before we died. Into today's episode, I want to
illustrate for you in a way that you can physically
experience it, the difference between freedom and control. This is
a really, really, really really important element.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
So if you are assuming you're not driving, I want
you to play along with me.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
I want you to hold out your left hand and
now form that hand into a fist. I want you
to tighten it, tighten it some more, and tighten it
some more. And now I want you to try to
take and force a coin or a trinket or a
something into your fist. Force it in there, get get

(04:48):
it up in there, Try to force it in there.
You may notice that you physically cannot. I can't get
anything in here. And I don't know if you're anything
like me.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Right now, my nails are like digging into the palm
of my hand and it's actually quite painful. Now, let's
open our hand, and I want you to put those
same whatever, coins, trinkets, whatever, into your hand easy, right
Like I have three crystals in my hand right now,
of varying sizes.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
And dimensions and shapes. Super easy. I wanted to illustrate
this for you specifically kicking off the episode today, because
when we are gripping for control, when we are trying
to hold on so tightly to our vision, our goals
have no space to live. They can't get in here.

(05:40):
This control is literally suffocating the life out of our dreams,
and it's forcing our dreams to try to contort themselves
into this very small space that we've created for it,
because we're literally forcing it to be a certain way.
I do want to pause for a minute here in
recog is that this experience is completely normal for two reasons. One,

(06:07):
we live in a world that has conditioned us to
believe that we have to force and manipulate our physical
world in order for us to achieve what we want
to achieve. The second reason this is normal is.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Because, especially as entrepreneurs, solopreneurs and entrepreneurs, we've had to
do everything for our business. Oftentimes, especially solopreneurs, believe that
no one else can or should work in our businesses
with us right forcing actions or strategies without alignment, attempting

(06:43):
to control everything, and in that control, it's actually preventing our.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Goals from unfolding. Because if we're clenching like this. Literally,
nothing can unfold in this space by bring this up.
Because for me, the shift.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
That I'm in, the reinvention that i'm in, the elevation
that i'm in, that I'm being asked to journey.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Along, has been this aha moment of the difference between
the three D world, or, as doctor Joe Despenza says,
using matter to change matter and the five D world,
using energy to change matter. I've already kind of explained
the difference between the three D and the five D.

(07:30):
But let's look at this in terms of business. A
three D business is super strategy heavy, it's logic led,
it's hyper controlled, and it's rooted in doing, doing, doing, doing, doing,
and then doing some more.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
There's a belief within this structure that what you can
see is all that's available to you, and that it's
up to you to figure it out and make it happen.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Let's contrast that with this five D world. A five
D business is more about energetic alignment. It's more about
intuitive flow, surrendered guidance, quantum leaps, rooted more in your
being than in your doing, and in this experience, your
core belief is that your energy alignment and magnetism are

(08:23):
the greatest tools in your tool belt to help you
bring your dreams to life. The three D business is
built in structure and systems, and adding the five D
to that brings in the soul. My perspective of this
is the three D is the Industrial revolution era approach.

(08:45):
They had to work really hard. Their income was directly
proportionate to how hard they worked. However, we have entered
into the five D era, which is the information and
the AI revolution era. We know better.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
We have the science to show the power of our
ability to align, to attract, and to magnetize. Literally, the
way that the body's field is built is as a magnet,
and if you are able to couple your mind with

(09:25):
your embodiment, you can create miracles.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
How does this three D clinging hustle show up in
your business? First off, refusing to delegate because no one
else can do it, obsessing over metrics, working longer hours
to quote unquote earn your success and your rest, constantly planning, adjusting, strategizing, moving,

(09:53):
taking steps, acting but not trusting, and really truly over
identifying with being a solopreneur, being a worker instead of
being a visionary leader. A prompt that I want you
to ask yourself is do I trust myself to be
able to build my dreams without overworking and hustling. Now

(10:17):
you may say, Brie, that's all I want.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
I don't want to hustle. But that's not what I asked.
I didn't ask if you wanted that life. You probably
do want that life. Most of us want that life.
My question was, do you trust yourself to build your
dreams without overworking and hustling.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
I want to give you just a little glimpse into
what I'm doing behind the scenes right now. I'm actually
doing a month long experiment around underworking and overliving and
I'm literally documenting the entire thing and I'm gonna release
it in July. So if you're not yet subscribed to
the Big Goald Energy Podcast one, you're gonna want to.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Be because I am breaking down everything about my month
of underworking and overliving and what I'm going to bring
into my business during this time. Also, if you're not
on the app, I'm going to be releasing daily behind
the scenes look at what is going into this. Okay, again,
you may want the life where you're not overworking and hustling,

(11:25):
but do you trust yourself to build it. If you're
listening to this and thinking I wish I had more
people in my life who just get it, you're not alone.
Big Goal Energy women are rare. We're the ones dreaming big,
defying norms, and refusing to settle. And that is exactly
why I created the Big Goal Energy App. But it's

(11:48):
more than just an app. It's a community, a safe,
supportive space where ambitious women like you and me can gather, grow,
and go after our biggest goals without judgment. Inside you'll
find real time conversations, powerful tools and resources, and exclusive
content you won't get anywhere else, and yes, direct access

(12:09):
to me to support.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
You on your journey.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Whether you're building, dreaming, shifting, or scaling, you don't have
to do it alone. Come join us inside the Big
Old Energy App and surround yourself with women who dream
as delulu.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
As you do.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Download the app now or visit bre sealy dot com
slash community to learn more.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
What does the five D? What does freedom actually require
of you? To get there? The first thing is I
feel like a broken record saying this. You have to
let go of needing to know exactly how you're going
to get there. I love using this example from the
movie The Labyrinth with David Bowie. It's an eighties movie.

(12:56):
If you haven't seen it, go see it. It's fantastic.
It's full of muppet and singing, and it is a
great movie. Go watch it. In the movie, she is
taking an epic journey and she comes upon in the
movie the bog of eternal stench. Yes, it is exactly
what it sounds like. She needs to cross this bog.

(13:17):
If she touches the bog in any way, shape or form,
she will smell eternal eternal stench. She will smell forever
for the rest of her life. So she has to
find a way to cross this bog without touching it. This,
to me perfectly illustrates what the five D is all about,
what actually having a freedom led business is about. Because

(13:39):
while we want to sit down and map out every
single step from here to there, what happens is we
take steps one, two, and three, and because of the
results of those steps, steps four on have to shift.
Then we take steps four, five, and six, and as
a result of those steps plus the first three steps,
step seven have to shift. While it feels quote unquote

(14:03):
say to have the journey all mapped out, we end
up taking just a few steps and everything changes. What
do we do instead? This is where the bog of
eternal stench comes in. She walked up to the edge
of the bog without touching it. She's the one.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Stink forever forever.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
As she arrives at the edge of this bog, the
first stone appears from underneath. It pops up in this bog,
just the first stone, though, what happens when she steps
on that first stone. The second stone pops up when
she steps on the second stone, The third stone pops
up when she steps on the third stone, the fourth

(14:41):
stone pops up, et cetera, et cetera, until she's able
to cross over the entire bog. This is how freedom
led businesses are built, and it's not about not having
a plan, or not having a strategy, or not having
things in place to help set you up for success.
What it is about is being willing to move with

(15:01):
the energy and be able to tap into your alignment
every day and find what is the next best step
that's aligned with where I am today and where I'm going.
The other thing required to build the kind of business
like this is building safety around uncertainty. You have to

(15:22):
practice being safe in the unknown. I know from experience
from being around a lot of people, the unknown feels
like a very scary place to be because you don't
know what's going to happen. As doctor Joe Dispensa says,
your goal, your dream, your vision, your big goal exists
in the unknown because you haven't built it yet. If

(15:44):
you truly want to bring forward this big vision within you,
the unknown has to become your best friend. And the
only way to do that is to practice being safe
in the unknown. In twenty seventeen, I knew that my
word was surrender. And it's actually quite funny because this December,

(16:05):
the Winter Solstice, went to a friend's house and she
had us pull cards and the card I pulled was surrender,
and I pulled it thinking like, ah, this was my
word in twenty seventeen, I know how to do this.
This year has been a practice of stepping into the unknown.
One of the ways that I physically practiced being safe

(16:26):
in surrender in twenty seventeen was by starting a yoga
hammock practice, because you literally have to surrender. Between my
yoga hammock practice and also floating two physical experiences where
I embodied being safe in surrendering to the unknown. Then
those two physical circumstances, you don't have a choice. If

(16:48):
you go to float and you tense up your muscles,
you will wake up the next morning and not be
able to move your head. Ask me how I know
that same goes for the yoga hammock.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
I just rehung my own hammock in my shed this
weekend because I am now actively again in the practice
of surrendering and being in the unknown. The third thing
that this kind of business is going to require of
you is trusting yourself, trusting your timing, and trusting your vision.
Trust requires you to keep showing up in the moments

(17:20):
when the.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Results aren't coming.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
That has been the theme of my twenty twenty five.
This year's looked nothing like I thought it was gonna look,
and yet I firmly believe.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
This is the perfect timing for me, and that my
vision is exactly what I need to be going after
right now.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Most people, when they face a contraction, think that they
need to go out into the physical world and get
a job. Go apply for jobs, Go manipulate the physical
world to bring the results you're looking for. That's the
fist that we practiced at the beginning of this episode.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
My work this year has been opening my hands and trusting.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Even though my results right now don't look like I
want them to look.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
I'm perfectly on time. My vision is perfect. I'm doing
everything I need to be doing right now to be
getting into alignment with this next level shift that I'm
working towards. And I'm going to tell you what that
shift is in just a minute. Let's talk about some
tangible mindset shifts into building this five D business.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
When we're in more of a gripping, controlling mindset, prevailing
narrative is what do I need to do next? What
steps do I need to take next to change my results?
When you are more in the flow, more in the intuition,
more in the unfolding the creation of what you're moving into,

(18:43):
it's not about what you need to do, but rather
who you need to be. My question all year this
year has been who do I need to be for
my vision to unfold?

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Again. If we're going from that hustle mindset, the narrative
is how do I control the outcome? What do I
need to plan? What do I need to strategize? When
we're moving into the freedom based experience and the flow,
the question doesn't become how do I control the outcome?
It's how do I span my capacity to receive the
identity shift that I really want to invite you into,

(19:15):
and I want you to hear this. We just talked
about building safety around uncertainty, and my question for you is,
who are you when you no longer need to control
to feel safe? Who are you when you are that
safety within you and you can trust yourself to be

(19:37):
the vessel for that business to come through. Two additional
things here, and then we're going to get to some
practical steps. The first thing is I see the universe
as my business partner. Whether for you that's the universe, source,
higher self, God, your cosmic team, whatever. I see the
universe as my business partner.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
If I see the universe as my business partner, and
I trust that I've got fifty percent and the universe
has got fifty percent for.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Me, to then go out and try.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
To control means that I don't actually trust that the
universe is my business partner. I don't actually trust that
there's something bigger than me that's helping me build my goals,
my dreams and my vision.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
When I was in Arkansas, I was.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Meditating one day and I had already gotten this message
from both of my guides, my Akashak Records reader and
my business coach, and I was meditating and I was exploring,
what are my next step? What does this look like?

Speaker 1 (20:39):
What is a five D business to me, much of
which I've shared with you in this and what does
that look like on a daily basis moving forward? What
came to me was what if hold on before I
go there, just a little backstory. In twenty seventeen, I
decided that I wanted to be a seven figure business owner.
I've been working to work it's that for the last

(21:01):
eight years, but literally working. When I say working towards it.
All the things that I've talked about in the three
D in this episode are what I've been doing. I've
been putting in my time, I've been putting in my
sweat equity, I've been putting in everything of me, hustling,
burning out all the things to try to build this

(21:22):
seven figure business. And I'll be real, real straight with you,
it hasn't fucking worked eight years, and I'm not there yet.
Here I am meditating on this message that has been
given to me twice now on everything I've talked about
in this episode. What does this look like? How do
I show up every day? What does this mean? And
literally what dropped in for me as I was meditating

(21:45):
was what if? What if your seven figure business is
it going to be built from your time and your effort,
but rather your mind and your energy. Let me say
that again for you, What if your seven figure business
is not going to be built from your time and

(22:06):
your effort, but rather your mind and your energy. I
don't know about you, That business sounds fucking fantastic. That's
where I'm going. That's what I'm doing, And the practical
steps to do this have been more about alignment, more
about meditation, more about tapping into the frequency of who

(22:27):
I need to be to have the seven figure business
that has come through my mind and my energy. In
addition to the floating and the yoga hammock that I
mentioned earlier, I want to give you a few more
things to help you start letting go of control and
start tapping into the flow, the intuition, the energy, the frequency,

(22:50):
the magnetism that's already within you. You don't need to
go get it.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
You don't need to go find it, It's already there.
The first thing I want you to do this week
is I want you to start tracking where you're gripping
versus where you're flowing. I just want you to notice
what are you doing? Where's your mindset at, How are
you feeling when you're gripping, What are you doing, how
are you being? What's going on when you're flowing? This week,

(23:15):
once you have those two lists, compare what are the commonalities?
What are the patterns around you gripping? What are the
patterns around how you're flowing and when you're flowing? The
other thing I want you to start thinking about are
places where you can begin to release control. Do you
need to hire a housekeeper? Do you need to have

(23:35):
someone schedule all your social media? Is there a minor
business decision that you can hand off to the universe
when you're moving forward with your creative direction? Can you
let it come to you instead of you going to it? Then, last,
but not least, I want to encourage you to open
up space every single day to start receiving, receiving insights,

(23:56):
receiving next steps, letting the universe, God, spirit, your high,
yourself whatever that is.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Start talking to you and helping you be your business partner,
whether this is meditation.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Journaling, simply being a great way to start doing this
is to embody and practice being your future self. Now.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
I do have a free future self Meditation up on
the Big Goal Energy app. So if you've not yet joined,
go to breseealy dot com slash community. It's on Android
and iOS. There's also a desktop version if you don't
want to put it on your phone. The future self
Meditation is in there, and it can help you connect
with that part of you that's already there. In wrapping up,

(24:37):
I just want to remind you that the freedom that
you're looking for cannot be controlled into existence. Freedom and
control do not coexist, and if your pathway is control,
the destination cannot be freedom. Control does not lead to freedom, period.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
If your pathway is one thing and you're expecting the
destination to be different than that thing, it doesn't work
that way. If you want freedom to be your destination,
your pathway also has to be freedom. All of this
that you're looking for.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Is received when you shift your operating system from that
three D strategy hustle control into that five D sovereignty,
flow intuition. One final journal prompt for you before we
wrap up today's episode, what would change if I trusted
more and controlled less? Thank you so much for joining

(25:30):
me on this episode of Big Goal Energy. Reminder grab
the app if you have not yet, please leave us
a review on whatever platform you listen to your podcasts on,
and don't forget to subscribe because I have that super
cool result of my experiment coming in July, and I'm
going to give you everything you need to learn how

(25:53):
to overlive and underwork.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
If this episode lit something up in you, share it,
TX it to a friend, post it to your stories,
or leave a review. Because Big Goal Energy is meant
to be felt far and wide, and if you're ready
to go deeper, explore the tools, hypnosis, sessions and support.
Because your vision deserves more than hustle, join us on
the Big Goal Energy app by visiting your app store

(26:19):
and typing in Big Goal Energy. Your vision, your goals
deserve alignment, ease, and your fullest self behind them Until
next time, Trust yourself, dream bigger, and never forget you
are here for greatness.
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