Today's roundtable brings you unfiltered wisdom on what it really means to cultivate a CEO mindset. Bri Seeley sits down with Dr. Linette Montae, Renee Bowen, and Vanessa Bowen to explore shedding old identities, embodying personal power, and leading from a place of true purpose. What You'll Learn:
- Why "CEO" is an identity, not a title
- How to spot (and shed) societal "shoulds"
- Daily practices that fortify your mindset
- The real meaning of living your legacy
- How to regulate your energy and stay aligned
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, A'll mark my words. Today's episode is one
that you are going to want to bookmark, come back to,
and definitely take notes on. I just sat down with
three absolutely incredible powerhouse women and CEOs, Renee Bowen, Vanessa
Bowen unrelated, and doctor Lynette Monte. We had a conversation
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all about what a CEO mindset even is and how
to cultivate one, what it really means to lead yourself,
to lead your vision, and to lead your.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Goals at the highest level.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
We are talking beyond titles, beyond boxes, beyond hustle, and
beyond old paradigms of leadership. You are going to hear
insights on identity shifts, on how to make decisions, on
energy management, and on the internal transformations required to truly
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operate from.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Your highest self, not your past self.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Whether you are an entrepreneur, a.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Creative, a leader in your career, or a woman who
is chasing her bold, audacious vision and isn't even at
the CEO point yet. This conversation is going to give
you the kind of wisdom, not just knowledge, wisdom, mindset
shifts and truth bombs that are going to change how
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you show up in your life and business. If perchance
you find yourself nodding along, feeling inspired, or even having
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into this powerful conversation on cultivating your CEO mindset and
please help me. Welcome Doctor, Lynette, Renee and Vanessa. You
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But the truth is big goals don't come with step
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Speaker 4 (03:08):
Let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Welcome to this month's roundtable episode. It's been a few
months since you have seen a roundtable episode from me,
and I am very excited to be kicking us back
off with this one. Talking about CEO mindset, the importance
of CEO mindset, how we got our CEO mindsets, how
it helps us and benefits us.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
All the things.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I would love for each of my guests today to
just briefly introduce herself and then also touch on what
does CEO mindset mean to you or why is having
a CEO mindset important to you in your role in
your current business.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
So, Vanessa, would you like to kick us off?
Speaker 5 (03:51):
I've been up the bowen. I'm a CPA. I'm also
a master a Neo Linguistic Programming mindset coach, the found
of a beautiful company called mitworthy Coe, where I empower
him to make more money, keyboard profits and build the
wealth that they are worthy of when you say CEO,
why is that where mine's sent? Because for me, it
embodies a lot. First of all, it's that identity, right,
you know, especially when you're coming from a nine to
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five job and you're starting your business. It is a
huge mindset shift to embody who you are as a CEO,
and that can make or break your business, that can
make and break your bank account, that can make and
break your profit. But when I think of CEO, what
that means to me is how do I show up
in my business? But also how do I show up
for myself? How do I show up in my life,
for my daughter, for my husband. It's embodying this version
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of me that is not just building the business, but
also like doctor Lenet sent and when we started building
that legacy of what this business is not just for me,
but the legacy that I wanted to create. And it
can't create that if I'm not the CEO first in
my mind to.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Then build the business that I'm a envisioning.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I mean, I already have so many little rabbit holes
that I want to start going down. But we are
going to hand the reins over to doctor Lenette to
introduce herself.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Thank you so much for having me. I am doctor
Lynette Monte. I'm President of Intercultural Voices, a global media platform.
We are on a mission, a big mission, so I
hope that you'll join me to close the access gap
and redefine success for one million multicultural entrepreneurs and experts.
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We do that by increasing their visibility and intentionally helping
them to monetize their voice. And so thank you so
much for allowing me to share mind today. CEO mindset, Wooh,
that's a big one. I'm gonna sum it up to
say this CEO mindset is something that really took me
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forty years to realize what it really means. We've been
taught it's the hustle, it's the grind, it's all of
these other things. What I know to be true now
is that CEO mind set requires you to not just
focus on the business. It is about scaling your mind,
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your body, and your business. For women, specifically, which has
been my target market for forty years, I like to
say we can be happy, healthy and wealthy. Soap a
woman cape is no longer desired.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I'm literally taking notes, y'all because I have so many
things I want to dive into, but last, let's have
Renee introduce herself and then we can jam.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I know I'm excited too to dive into all this. Hi,
I'm Renee. Thanks for having me. Renee Bowen and I
run a couple of businesses. I am a pro photographer,
have been for about twenty years. I am also a
certified life coach. I also use NLP and hypnosis and
all of those wonderful unconscious mind reprogramming tools with my
coaching clients. So I do one on one in groups
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and I help them sort of break free from limiting beliefs,
frame things, step into the life that they want, and
actually carve out their own path. From me, SEO mindset
has meant a lot of different things over the years,
especially when my kids were little. It meant something different.
That's when I was building my business from literally nothing
with no money in anything. And now it means something
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different now when I have grown kids and I'm still
married after twenty five years, and I've run a couple
of businesses and I love what I do. For me,
it means regulation. It means that I am taking care
of my nervous system number one, because if I'm not
doing that, I'm not good for anybody. Learn that the
hard way, and so yes, anti hustle culture, step in
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into the flow of the stream and really standing in
that confidence of being the CEO and being the head
of your business, but also easing into it and relaxing
into it and letting it be easy because it can be.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, I speak in my language.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I actually have a mini course called fuck the Hustle
because I was just so over they'll just work hard.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Arm No.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
For those of you that.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Do not yet know me, I'm Bree Sealy. I brainwash
individuals for their success. I am also about the unconscious
and building new identities. There's a quote from Atomic Habits
that I changed a little bit. That's we don't rise
to the level of our goals. We fall to the
level of our identity.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
And that's so much of the work that I do
with people in the world.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And identity is something that Vanessa touched on and it
triggered something within me. And then doctor Lynette has been
in this for forty years and Renee just said something
too about the evolution of the CEO mindset.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
A lot of us were around back in.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
The days of Like the Boss Babe and Like the
Girl Boss era, and I want to touch on because
I think it's really important that so many women got
into business around this cutesy If I have the right
stationery and the right office decorps and the like white
Instagram feed like, I'll be a boss babe. I have
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seen that shift in the eighteen years i've been an
entrepreneur to now were like, no, no, no, we are CEOs.
I thought it was really interesting that this shifting identity
for women in business has happened.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
I definitely have a thought on that because my area
of expertise is operations. I've never had the luxury of
being a girl. It was always a girl. I was
a girly girl when I was a kid, but I
had to step into a masculine persona in order to
survive in that space, especially if you think about it,
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I started forty years ago when women weren't supposed to
be seeing, heard, or anything else, right, And so here
I come, as a female with chocolate skin into a white,
male dominated industry of operations, and I knew I was
smarter than everyone in the room.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I knew it absolutely hands down. I knew it.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
But they would still look at me and expect me
to go get the coffee. When we switched into this
boss babe thing, I actually couldn't understand it. I was
trying to figure out I never saw so much pink
in my life, and I'm like, I don't wear pink,
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not even own pink. But then I realized I never
had the space to do that even if I wanted
to do that. I do now and I still don't
have anything pink. But it was just very eye opening
to me that women believed that being a CEO or
being an entrepreneur as a female in fall pink, and
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it involved a certain esthetic.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
You can be feminine and.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
Still bring power energy, And I think that's where we've
lost our way. We think that feminine energy is also
submissive energy. You can be submissive and still be in
your power.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
And I just found that.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Whole era interesting and I'm so glad it's gone.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I mean, same, I do think to an extent that
it was maybe a little needed at the time, but
it felt to me almost very superficial, like you were saying,
doctor Lenet, the pink or Instagram feed or the office
decorps those things, whereas to me, now, what the CEO thing,
it's so deeply embedded in my soul. Right, It's not
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this swash of pink on my life. It's who the fuck.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
I am every day.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
It just feels so deep in my body and my soul.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yeah, for sure, I feel like the same for me
happened because I have always been a very dominant personality
just in general. Even as a kid, I was always
a nonconformist. Grew up in the very deep South, which
was very oppressive, and flew away to Calife as soon
as I could. I needed to find myself. As a kid,
I was always that person who was pushing buttons and
trying to be different than other people. I never felt
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that whole boss made movement. I do feel like there
was a necessity for it, and also with a sign
of the times as well. Just like everything, right, everything
sort of ebbs and flows, and we probably did need
to step a little further into our masculine to get
back to the middle. So I felt like it was
needed for a women to find their power. But now
I'm glad. I think that the the evolution of this
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anti hustle culture, this anti push push push push, push
push push, because what you resist persists, right, So we
know that it's just it's and for me, it's all
about the energy that I'm bringing, Like what kind of
energy am I bringing to the table do I want
to bring? Like you know in your face, forceful, like
I need you know, I need this, And I'm pushing
my way through no, like I've never really felt like
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I had to do that. I feel more magnetic when
I'm in my flow and yes, like like doctor Lynette
said that you are still empowered in that place. It's
just we have been programmed to believe that we're not.
And so I'm glad that that programming is being questioned
right now. And that's the biggest thing that a lot
of women are waking up to a lot of women,
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especially in my age group. I'm in my fifties right like,
people are like what am I doing? Like what is
my identity? I think it's a great conversation and I'm
glad we're having it, for sure.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
It's funny. I started my business around twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen,
and what was coming to me is when I even
think of like the clients who I'm working with now
who started their business after this trend, the trend maybe
not there from like total social media perspective, but I
think it's still there from a mindset perspective. When I
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think of some of the clients that I work with
who haven't been in business for that long, they still
they think it's about that fluffy stuff of like, oh, Okay,
I have the business that means I'm a CEO. And
I think that's what that eraror kind of created that
like you just have to have the stationary or have
the pink and that means you're seeing. What it has
created is this disconnect of what it really means to
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be a CEO, and we talk about CEO mindset, and
I think it is some of the clients that I
work with, like they actually have a hard time seeing
themselves in the CEO and I think a lot of
that girl boss culture is a part I'll say to blame.
It's because they were like, Okay, if you started the
business and you gave it a sexy name, you're a CEO. No,
that did not make you a CEO. And so yes,
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it's not socialized as much, but I do feel like
it's still impacting the subconscious mindsets of a lot of
women who have more recently started their business. When that
trend was starting where they're having a hard time actually
understanding what it means to be a CEO and embody
a CEO. I spoke to someone today and they're like, oh,
I don't even have like a plan for the year.
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I'm like, what are you doing in your business? And
I was listening and taking this in and I'm like,
I think it's still here, just kind of like invisibly
and subconsciously still impacting some women inside of their businesses
where they're not actually embodying the mindset because and to them,
what it meant to be a CEO was you just
got to look cute and be pretty. But they never
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actually learned what it really means to be CEO or
they're still trying to learn that.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
This is amazing. Let's I want to run with this.
So where is the disconnect?
Speaker 6 (15:14):
Then?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
How do we get more women over that tipping point?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Because I'll also say I have found that my audience
doesn't resonate as much.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
With the term CEO.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
How do we get more women to identify with the
actual this is what it takes to build and have
a business versus the external.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
What I was thinking about is my personal mission. You know,
we all have business missions and then we all have
personal missions like why are we here?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
What is our purpose?
Speaker 6 (15:45):
And my personal mission is to encourage women, specifically to
shed the shoods. What I've noticed over the years, over
the decades, is that we are so used to being
told what to do, what to wear, what to say,
how to sit, don't do that, don't eat.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
This, you should look like this.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
We have all these rules and from the time that
we left home at home, yes, but that's sort of
expected when you're still at home.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
But once you leave home, we.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Still have all these expectations that are put on us
and all of these hoops that we're expected to jump through.
And one of the things that comes to mind from
me so strongly is that the minute that we become
a mother, we've lost our identity.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Now wear the mother up right.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
It's not even our parents don't call and say how
are you, dear? The first thing our parents want to
know is how is the grandchild. When you get a job,
you're now an employee. When you get a husband, you're
now a wife.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
And every title and.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
Every activity that we add into our life, we are
taking one another role and we are continuing to be
dimmed if you will, as to who are we? Who
do we be? And I think that's where it gets lost.
So when you become an entrepreneur, now you're looking around
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trying to figure out, Okay, well now who am I?
Because you're not you anymore. You spent all these years
being all the roles that have been placed upon you,
and now you are an entrepreneur. So what does that
look like? You look at the people who you perceive
as successful, and so then you start to try to
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take on that persona and you're like, m that doesn't
feel good. Let me look at this person, see what
they're doing, see how they're acting, to see how they're dressing,
you know, and then you take on that persona and
you're like, hmm, that doesn't fit. And so my mission
personally is for us to shed societal shoulds and stand
in who we be because we're all here for a
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purpose and it's a purpose that only each one of
us can do can really deliver. So when I think
about how did it go left, that's to me where
it went left.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
And it's just a cycle.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
We talked about the way that it used to be,
in the way that it is now, it really is
a ten year cycle, and so the girl boss thing
that we're seeing leave, just give it a little while.
Just like the ball bottoms that I thought would never
come back when I was a kid, it came back
three or four times.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
So I'm curious to see what is the.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Quote unquote girl Boss Babe thing going to look like
in its next iteration. Because it is gonna return, It's
just not necessarily going to be called the same thing.
And hopefully when it returns, we as women will feel
our power and will be ready to step into that
power instead of passing it off to a title that
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someone has given us.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Yes, I'll past the mic.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
And I think it's that power piece that you talked
about at the end that I feel like with women
hesitating or not wanting to step into the CEO mindset.
To me, a CEO mindset is a mindset of power.
It is a mindset of strength. That's a mindset of leadership, right,
And so where's that gap still existing, like Vanessa was
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talking about, around women, regardless of whatever they call themselves
or what role.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
They're in, where are they.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Not wanting to embrace or own this power that's within
them to create their reality?
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I feel like this has a lot to do with
people pleasing, which is completely embedded into most women. I
don't know about you guys, but I see these show
up in my coaching all the time. Women come to
me and they don't think that that's what it is,
but at the heart of it, there's a lot of
people pleasing tendencies, and I feel like that is what
maybe initially drew them to scirl boss. Really, you know,
they have a business or they want to run a business.
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You just happen to be good at something and then
somebody tells you, oh my god, you should make money
at that, and then you're like okay, and you have
no idea what you're doing, right. I see often how
it is really hard for creative women, let's just say,
especially who are in the creative field, who want that
They want to be the CEO, they want to be
the boss, they want that empowerment. There's that aura of yes,
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I would like that identity, so seeking this identity in
this business and because they don't have an understanding of
what that's really going to take. And I'm going to
need to know my numbers and I probably need to
project and see if I can be profitable and how
to do all these things that feels really chaotic and hard.
So grasping on to this trend, to these you know,
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social trends, to this vibe that they feel like, oh,
I can be a part of this. So I feel
like there is a little bit of that that probably
is a part of the reason why there may be
a you know, an attraction to that even still, because
we've also been programmed that. And I think all of
this is the patriarchy by the way, you know it
really is. It's like it was starting because like women
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were trying to keep up right, so I understand why.
But at the same time, owning, like knowing yourself and
being the most you that you can possibly be is
literally your superpower. That's that's what I want women to
get to. You already have it. You already have it.
Let's just find out where it is. Let's find out
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where that people pleasing is coming from, because it's literally
just programming, and it's literally just something that you've continuing
to believe, and you have a choice to change that. Like,
any time you want to change that, I'll.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Just piggyback and say I totally agree. And especially when
you're talking about the part of like need to know
my numbers and I need to know it's the thing profitable,
but it's easier to grab onto the easy thing stuff.
Also when for women when it's like, oh, I actually
have to know how to do this, then they're on
the hook for something, And I agree, I think it's
the people creeping, But it's also oh my gosh, if
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I fail at this thing, that's self judgment or what
is everyone going to think about me? Or oh my gosh,
Like if I do go in, if I call myself
a CEO and this thing doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
How am I going to be perceived?
Speaker 5 (22:19):
What is my family going to think? What if everyone
on Instagram I'm going to think. I think it's also
that if I don't own CEO, then I don't have
to say that I failed at it, Like I could
just like slip under the radar and I could just
be me. But if I say I'm a CEO and
this thing doesn't work, it's also I think a lot
of that as well, that inner apparently even know what
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they really call it. But I think we live in
this world of like, don't let me actually be seen
and don't let me actually fail and be seen, because
then my whole world's going to fall apart instead of
being like, Okay, cool, I failed. This is just a
part of the journey. I think we tagged so much
of the result of our business to our identity. A
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bit of why some women resist on like actually owning
being a CEO because if it doesn't work, they don't
want to live on the other side of that.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
So interesting.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I'm actually getting ready to record a round table like
this about the fear of failure and fear of success.
If anyone has not yet subscribed, now would be a
great time to subscribe to Big Old Energy. I want
to ask one more question, and then I'd love to
then dive into each of your personal experiences a little
bit more. If you were to have someone come to
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you who just wanted a little bit of mentorship, a
little bit of inside, a little bit of advice, who
maybe has not yet fully stepped into their CEO mindset,
is there anything that you would say to them, or
encourage them or guide them with to do kind of
what we've just been talking about.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
I always start with, no matter who it is, no
matter where they are in their business, I'm really a
big believer in like getting really deeply connected to your purpose,
and like your purpose not in your businusiness, just your purpose,
your legacy, Who do you want to be? What is
the energy you're bringing to the table. Most of us
have more and a lot of different identities, like we've
been talking about, So that is usually a really sort
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of like weird onion to peel with people, because they
start off pretty superficial and I'm like, no, no, no, we're
not there yet. We're not there yet. We're not there yet.
It's like a deeper, deeper, deeper process. It has a
lot to do with how Simon Sinek has talked about
finding your why, but it's even a little bit more
nuanced than that, bringing in the unconscious, because I really
believe that everything that we do, whether it's business or personal,
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comes from that how good you feel, how well you
know yourself, and who do you want to be? Actually
in clarity on that, so that you can paint the
picture for yourself, put it in your road map so
you know where you're going, and also feel deeply deeply
connected to it, so that when you are marketing, you
can talk about it effortlessly. When you are outside in
the world, you feel connected to a greater sense of meaning.
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So I feel like that would be my suggestion, and
that's usually where I start with people. It's really really
powerful and it's one of my favorite things to do
with people.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
I really love that, Renee. I'll just add to that,
like one of the things you kind of said it,
I think earlier Bree about identity, that whole thing. You
can never outperform your identity. So one of the things
I like to get my clients to do is like
a want and expectations exercise, and they really write down,
like what do I want, Oh, I want this business,
I want I bank accountl look like this, I want
this lifestyle. What are you expecting? And you're going to
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find there's this huge disconnect between what you want and
what you expect, And that is where I also like
to start is Okay, let's figure about where we're disconnected here.
Because if you're saying you want to be a CEO,
but you're expecting that the business is going to fail,
you're expecting that you're not going to get clients, you're
expecting that no one's going to pay your prices, then
we can't get you the CEO until you actually start
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working through the expectations, and then under those expectations, is
all the money blocked? Is all the money stories, it's
all of the subconscious beliefs that they have, And then
we kind of go deeper there. Starting with that baseline
of like what do I really want? What am I
actually expecting my life right now? It's going to just
help to identify and illuminate the gap between who that
person is and them saying they want to be the CEO.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Wow. I love all of that and absolutely agree.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
I would just add I tend to be the person
that likes to get straight to the nitty gritty. I'm
not really good with the fluff. And one of the
questions that I ask is what were your dreams before
anyone had an opinion? Because for me, it puts the
cherry on top of what you all have said. It
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really because what's going on is it's underneath. It's trauma,
it's fears, it's gremlin speaking, it's all the things. It
depends on what is your educational background and where you're
coming from what you call that thing, but it's in
the way and it's not true. I really just ask
the hard question, what really?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
What was the dream we.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
All seem to be living and building someone else's dream,
not necessarily the big, boldacious dream that we always had.
And so I I am always asking what is the big,
boldacious dream that you probably haven't told anyone that you
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are thinking about, that you're whispering to yourself about what's that.
Let's work on that, let's focus on that, Let's build that.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
What I would add is I tend to be a
permission giver. And my invitation for anyone listening to this
who wants to step into the CEO mindset but hasn't yet,
I want to say, give yourself permission to do it,
very similarly to what all three of these women have
just talked about, like shutting all of the nonsense that
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you don't need, shutting all the other voices, getting in
touch with who you are, and just claim it for yourself,
because the longer you resist it, it's like magnets that
they're pushing against each other. If you just flip those
magnets around, they come right together.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
So own it. Give yourself permission to say.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Fuck, this is what I want, And not from a
place of need or lack or scarcity, but from a
place of I just really want this.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I want this identity, I want this experience. I want it,
and you know what, I'm gonna own it.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I'm gonna put it on today like an outfit I
would put on, and I'm just gonna own it. And
I'm gonna put it on again tomorrow, and put it
on again the next day and have this experiment of
being a CEO and see how it turns out. If
you're listening to this and thinking, I wish I had
more people in my life who just get it, you're
not alone. Big Goal Energy women are rare. We're the
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ones dreaming big, defying norms, and refusing to settle. And
that is exactly why I created the Big Goal Energy app.
But it's more than just an app. It's a community,
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and resources, and exclusive content you won't get anywhere else,
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Speaker 3 (29:18):
You on your journey.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
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Speaker 4 (29:24):
Have to do it alone.
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Come join us inside the Big Old Energy app and
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community to learn more. I want to dive into some
of the practices that you use in your businesses in
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your lives to help you either maintain your CEO mindset
or uphold it. Are there any daily practices or things
that you do that help you own being that CEO
on a daily.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Basis, Yes, the yes, yes, yes, I do a few things.
But I'll share to one that I've always been doing,
one that I actually picked up recently. One of the
things I've always been doing, and I teach this to
my clients is create a money manifesto. And this can
sometimes evolve throughout the year, but the beginning of the
year I like to always create it, and it typically
focuses on like the next twelve months and what do
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I want to create in the business, even just from
like the team, from operations, from revenue, but then it
goes into like lifestyle, like what is the business actually funding?
Because my business must fund this life left So I
usually cracked out that manifest So it's usually for twelve months,
but if there's something else that I'm really wanting to
create or call in over those twelve months, I'll have
that in there. But then I write this manifesto out
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and I actually record it on my phone, but I
record it using the background or instrumental to whatever my
money song is, and that of course can change every year.
Well whatever that money song is is, I record the
instrumental behind it, and I listen to it every morning
and listen to it every night. And it's especially in
the morning, like I will listen to it like right
when I open up my laptop. It really gets me
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into that CEO identity, and it's that CEO mode. I'm like, okay,
like this is who I am. This is how I
said I'm going to show up in my business, this
is how I said I'm.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Gonna run my day.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
It just really shifts my identity. It takes out anything
that happened the night before, the day before. It really
gets me centered. And then I listen to it at
the end of the day as well, like right before
I'm going to bed, just again to like reprogram my subconscious,
remind myself of who I am, because not just with
what happens in business bus things that happen in life
a family, with our economy, like everything, it's so easy
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to get distracted or shifted in different directions that you
forget who you are. And even as doctor Lynnett says, like,
we are different roles even in our day to day
and so my manifesto just brings me back to my
CEO self and my THEO identity. So that's something I
do every day. Another practice that I picked up in
actually from the book ten X is easier than two X.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
I don't know if you all have read that book,
so good, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
That's hire sign on this book. I have read it
two years in a row. Highly recommend ten X is
easier than two X. If y'all haven't read it, I'm
pretty sure people have heard me talk about it on
here before.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yes, yeah, highly red the Bat.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
The Bat, So I initially heard it there, and then
I also read their other books, The Gap and The Game,
and they go a little deeper into it there. But
what the practice is is at the end of the day,
you write down your three wins for the day, but
then you also write down the three wins.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
You want for tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
And that part is like the huge mind frat shift
because you're almost like projecting and manifesting what is going
to happen the next day, but also just writing down
the three wins. What it does for me is it
reminds me of what I've done, who I am, and
even if, like you know, the day didn't go as
planned or the launch didn't go as planned, or like
this in books as planning the business, it grounds me in,
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oh no, no, what we did have a win, or
we did have three wins, and also here the wins
that are going to tomorrow and that it's been such
a name changer and just like my mindset and just
like how I've seen myself as a CEO, and I've
only been doing that I think, probably like the last month,
but highly recommend that one.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
I love those because like I do versions of those
as well. But I like that second piece of it too.
I kind of do a little bit of that. You know,
for me, it's all about regulation. It's no excuses for
me anymore. I'm going to be regulated. The world can
be burning and it will that I will not be
burning along with it. I do a couple of different things.
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I have a mantra that I've recorded. I like to
keep it short. I use hypnosis techniques because I do
a lot of my own self hypnosis and I do
custom tracks for clients. And I love hypnosis because it's
different than meditation. I can just move aside and I
can let myself off the hook. I don't have to
be paying attention, and I know it's working on my
unconscious mind. I also lay them over by neural beats,
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so as I'm coming out of delta into theta state
in the morning, I'm just happen on that bandwagon, continuing
on the thing to feel good, listening to something as
I'm getting up, getting dressed, kind of doing my thing.
I'm not going to create. I'm not going to look
at emails, and I'm going to glance on my phone
because i do have adult kids and one is in college.
I'm going to make sure everyone is okay. I'm not
in a hospital, and outside of that, I'm not partaking
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with my phone. I'm listening to the thing on my phone,
but I'm not opening my emails. I am not consuming
anything before I have controlled my energy for the day.
That's my hardline, and it can even just be for
ten or fifteen minutes. But I'm going to do it.
I've also taken it a step further. I don't do
this every morning, but I'll do it maybe like once
a week where I've made like a movie, right, so
it's not just me listening, but it's an active vision board.
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The thing with this is that if I watch it,
and when I do watch it, I make myself feel
how I'm feeling when I'm getting those things and doing
those things, like when I'm in Italy, when I'm you know,
off doing my stuff, like I'm feeling how good it's
going to feel in my body. So that's a little
bit different, but kind of the same idea. And then
I also one hundred percent do the end of day
thing because I also know how powerful it is to
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reprogram that unconscious mind. By the time I get in bed,
I'm a human design generator. I have like burned out
all my energy for the day. I am tired. Sleeping
is my sleeperpower. Thank god I have that ability because
like I have always been able to sleep and sleep hard,
but I feel like I have because I am in
alignment and burning that all day. So like by the
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time it is time for rest, I'm ready for it.
But I sometimes will still have a lot of ideas
that are there, and I'm like, I have to get
it out. Like writing it out is a really big thing.
So I've always written out what I actually do today
because it feels like I probably didn't do a lot,
but I really did a lot writing down just noticing
what I've actually accomplished, and then also thinking that next
piece about not just my to do list for tomorrow,
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but expectations for tomorrow. But what I like to do
is just talk to my unconscious mind basically and say, okay, listen.
Sometimes actually have an out loud colorization whether depending on
how tired or not tired, I am telling her, I
want you to work this out while I sleep. I've
got this thing going on. I know you can deal
with this while I sleep, and we're super efficient like that,
so I trust that you are going to just like
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drop in what I need in the morning, go ahead
and take care of that. And so it is, and
I just let it go. That's my little mindset trick.
It keeps me regulated, which is important.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
I needed to take notes on those ideas.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
I love the idea of writing things down in the
morning and then doing it in the evening.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I have so many things that I do, and I sort.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
Of switch because I get bored fast. There's maybe three
that are consistent and have remained consistent.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Over the decades.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
One is asking myself what are the top three things
I must get done that day? Because there's a million
things that need to be done, especially if you have
a business, sometimes we get really caught up in doing
things that don't matter, that don't move the needle, that's.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Just busy work.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
So I really started asking myself, what are those top
three things you us get done today? And I play
a game with myself, which is to try to get
them done by twelve o'clock noon.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
I do that because then.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
I feel like I have the rest of the day
to play, to fidget, to do whatever it is that
I desire to do without feeling the weight of something
that needs to be done. Second is I like to
stay focused by having tabs.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I am a multitasker.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
I open the tabs for what I need to get
done that day because that's what keeps me focused. I
don't get sidetracked on things that pop in my email,
things that pop into my life and jump on my
plate because I can look at my tabs and I
know these are the three things. When I'm done, I
close the tab. It's sort of like a checklist, but
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for me, it just really worked in tab for one.
The third thing is I challenge myself to do at
least one thing each day that scares the bejeebas out
of me, because that helps me to stay out of.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
My comfort zone.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
It's comfortable there, it feels good there, and it also
does not get us to where our true purpose is waiting, right,
And so I really like to do something that scares me. Now,
one thing that is not on my list, Just so
we're queer as I am not getting in an ice bath, Okay,
I am not.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Every time I.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
See someone do that, I am like, no, I don't
care what y'all say.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
That does.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
So my mind said, I'm not getting.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
In the ice bath.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I just saw science, y'all.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
I just saw science that it doesn't work for women
the same way it works for men's.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Well, ice pods.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Are actually I'm the same where I'm like, don't I
don't do cold. I am not a cold person. I
grew up in Minnesota. I am good, so I've always
shied away from them. And then I saw the science
and I.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Was like.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I knew. I knew that that didn't work. So for women,
if you need an out, just be like back. It doesn't.
It doesn't work for us, so we don't need to
do it.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
No out needed, No is a complete sentence. I am
not doing it. The fourth thing, which is probably the
one that is least expected, is I take a three
hour nap every day every day. As a matter of fact,
I this is my nap time.
Speaker 7 (39:28):
And so I had to shift and take my nap
earlier because I take a three hour nap every single day, not.
Speaker 6 (39:39):
Two hours and thirty minutes, not two hours of four.
If I cannot have my three hour nap, you are
liable to get the grumpy doctor Lynette. And so I
really want to share that because I want people to
understand that CEOs doesn't mean work all day. It doesn't
mean hustle and grind. Everyone needs to identify how do
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they refuel. And we mentioned a little bit about human design.
You guys will understand why I take this nap because.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
I'm a projector can heed my nap. Okay, I need
my nap. I learned to lean into that.
Speaker 6 (40:16):
And again that goes back to the shuds. We've been
talking about people telling me, what do you mean like,
you're not a toddler? What do you mean you take
a nap?
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Yes, I do. Turn my phone on.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Do not distarve.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
Everyone in my family knows this is.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Not nap time. Don't call, don't text.
Speaker 6 (40:31):
Don't send smoke signals, no pigeons with notes, because I
am going to take my nap.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
I want to give everyone else permission whatever.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
That looks like for you to stay in that CEO mindset,
to stay in your purpose, to stay in your energy,
to stay in your safe space, whatever all that is
that you need to thrive, not just survive. Do that
and don't worry about what.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Everybody else is doing.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
This goes back to there's so many like YouTube videos
out there about the perfect morning routine or I love
him so much, The Miracle Morning by hal l Rod,
where it's like, you have to do these things.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
It has to look this way.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
And when people ask me, what's your morning routine, like,
I'm like my morning routine, I will tell you what
it is, and it works for me, so it doesn't
work for everyone. This way, the four of us can
sit here and give you the listener all the tools
in the world There's two things.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
One, tools don't work unless you fucking do them, and
if they're not a line for you.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
If I were to give you a sweater that was
ten sizes too small and said put this on, would
you put it on?
Speaker 2 (41:33):
No, you wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
You'd be like, that doesn't fit me, thanks so much.
So why are you putting on things that other people
are giving you telling you to put on when it
doesn't fit you? I love love that caveat Doctor Lynnette.
I want to add two quick things to this that
helped me stay in my CEO mindset. In addition to
so much of what was mentioned focus. I am an
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adhd CEO female entrepreneur. Found out about it after the
age of forty Hauzah, and I learned that if my
notifications are on, or if I'm getting pop ups from
Instagram and Facebook and TikTok and email and text messages
and boxer, and my entire day is spent at the
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mercy of someone else's whims And that is not how
a CEO operates. I learned many many years ago. My
phone is on do not Disturb for the majority of
the day. I get no notifications on my cell phones.
I don't know if I have a new email unless
I open the app, I get nothing. Focus is such
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a CEO mindset tool.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
And then the other thing I.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Will say too is drink your water, ladies, drink the water.
I am just off five week cleanse, I think, and
the importance of drinking. Anything else you want to share
about CEO mindset that you feel like would be beneficial
or impactful, I would just say, like we were talking
about before, all of this was so good too, by
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the way, and I love the In a minute you
said you took a three hour nap.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
By the way, I was like, cheese a projector side note,
human design is a very powerful tool. But what I
really wanted to say here is that if you feel
called to do it, if you feel called to be
a CEO, if you feel called to have your own business,
and you might be good at something like I said before,
and you want to figure out how way to make
money at it, you can do this. Do not feel
that it's outside of you. And if you had the idea,
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and if you had the vision, it's already happening in
another timeline, so you might as well just step into
it right now. Like you can absolutely have it. It's
yours to have and you can make the rules, you
can make it up as you go, and you can
let it be messy along the way. Just remember to
take one little small step at a time and to
take care of yourself, regulate yourself, honor yourself in the process.
Speaker 6 (43:49):
I really want to encourage everyone to live the legacy
you want to leave, because what you're doing now is
the legacy. We keep thinking that legacy is about what
we're going to leave, and that is true. However, the
legacy is what your kids see you doing right now.
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If they see you tired, if they see you working
all the time, if they see you sick, if they
see you unhappy, you're planting those seeds of legacy now.
And so please don't worry so much about what's going
to happen after you're gone, because it's not going to look.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
The way you desire.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
If what you desire doesn't look that way today.
Speaker 5 (44:38):
I love that to peeback on that. When you said
owning the legacy now, what I was going to say
is own that CEO, My own that you are a
CEO now. I think sometimes we tag being a CEO
to something else, especially money or when my business makes
a certain amount or when I hit this mile zone.
But if you want to create this business, if you
want to build this business, you have to own the
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CEO I set now. Doesn't matter how much you make,
it doesn't matter what the business looks like, it doesn't matter.
It's still a night idea. I think if you can
literally really talk about identity it own the identity now
that will make a break whether this become for this
is when you create the legacy or not so.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
Own it now.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
I'm really big into quantum theory, and there is only
the now moment. So if you're waiting for your legacy
at some point in the future, you're gonna be waiting
a very long time. It's not coming. If you're waiting
to be that CEO in the future, be waiting a
long time.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
The future never exists. Now is the only time there is.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Some of my favorite work to do with clients is
to do future self subconscious activation, where yes, you get
to go meet your future self, but then you merge
with that person and then the question becomes, as we're
doing the reinforcement for thirty days, how are you being
her today?
Speaker 2 (45:50):
How are you being the CEO? Today, How are you
living your legacy today? Because today is it all any
of us have.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
If anyone is interested in my your self meditation, not
the activation, but the meditation is in the Big Goal
Energy app. So if you haven't yet joined the app,
make sure to hop on in there. You can get
the future self Meditation for free to help you just
kind of conceptualize who is that future me? And then
how can I close the gap between my identity today
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and their identity.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
The more that.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
You can be that identity now, first of all, the
quicker your manifestations, your legacy, it's all going to unfold
so much more quickly.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
But also the journey is going to be so much easier.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Something doctor Lynette just said reminded me so much of
my journey is that my entrepreneurial journey has been pushing
things off and waiting and doing things in the future
when I'm there or whatever. And it's like I was
just overworking and underliving.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
That's it. That's the whole And.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
Now I'm like, oh shit, how do I overlive and underwork?
That's my whole vibe recently, and I will tell y'all
pretty fun. I wanted to say thank you all so
much for joining me today. All three of you have
been just absolutely phenomenal. This was a great conversation. I'm
telling y'all, I took notes as we were talking, so
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I have lots of things. I'm gonna go make my
money Manifesto Vanessa and listen to it every day because
it's one of my favorite manifestation tricks. Let's wrap up
by just each saying where the best place is that
people can find you if they want to chat with
you deeper, or follow your journey more or learn from you.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
Thanks so much for having me. This was really really
awesome and great meeting all of you, and you can
find me. I'm pretty active on Instagram. I'm at Renee
Bowen pretty much everywhere Renee bowing dot com, and then
on TikTok Renee Underscore Bowen.
Speaker 6 (47:44):
Thank you so much for having all of us, and
it's nice to meet you too as well. Googling me
is the easiest good then you'll just find whatever good
stuff you find. But on social media, I spend most
of my time on LinkedIn, so you can find theseiah
connect with me. Let me know that you've shared some
time with us today on the podcast, I would love
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to talk with you and follow you and read your content,
and thank you again for just being part of this
amazing community.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
And make sure you get in that app now. She
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get in there and get busy.
Speaker 5 (48:22):
I hang out with some time at Instagram, so you
can find me at mitworthy co on Instagram. You don't,
so check out our website for all of our courses
somitworthycode dot com. But yeah, slide into my DMS and
hopefully this conversation was enlightening for all of you. But
thank you Freeze for having us.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Thank you all so much. Last, but not least, as
I mentioned, so the app. If you'd like to get it,
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you are here for greatness
All right, A'll mark my words. Today's episode is one
that you are going to want to bookmark, come back to,
and definitely take notes on. I just sat down with
three absolutely incredible powerhouse women and CEOs, Renee Bowen, Vanessa
Bowen unrelated, and doctor Lynette Monte. We had a conversation
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all about what a CEO mindset even is and how
to cultivate one, what it really means to lead yourself,
to lead your vision, and to lead your.
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Goals at the highest level.
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We are talking beyond titles, beyond boxes, beyond hustle, and
beyond old paradigms of leadership. You are going to hear
insights on identity shifts, on how to make decisions, on
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Your highest self, not your past self.
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Whether you are an entrepreneur, a.
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Creative, a leader in your career, or a woman who
is chasing her bold, audacious vision and isn't even at
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shifts and truth bombs that are going to change how
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goals to life. This is your space to be seen,
to be expanded, and to remember that you are not
alone on this journey.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Welcome to this month's roundtable episode. It's been a few
months since you have seen a roundtable episode from me,
and I am very excited to be kicking us back
off with this one. Talking about CEO mindset, the importance
of CEO mindset, how we got our CEO mindsets, how
it helps us and benefits us.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
All the things.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I would love for each of my guests today to
just briefly introduce herself and then also touch on what
does CEO mindset mean to you or why is having
a CEO mindset important to you in your role in
your current business.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
So, Vanessa, would you like to kick us off?
Speaker 5 (03:51):
I've been up the bowen. I'm a CPA. I'm also
a master a Neo Linguistic Programming mindset coach, the found
of a beautiful company called mitworthy Coe, where I empower
him to make more money, keyboard profits and build the
wealth that they are worthy of when you say CEO,
why is that where mine's sent? Because for me, it
embodies a lot. First of all, it's that identity, right,
you know, especially when you're coming from a nine to
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five job and you're starting your business. It is a
huge mindset shift to embody who you are as a CEO,
and that can make or break your business, that can
make and break your bank account, that can make and
break your profit. But when I think of CEO, what
that means to me is how do I show up
in my business? But also how do I show up
for myself? How do I show up in my life,
for my daughter, for my husband. It's embodying this version
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of me that is not just building the business, but
also like doctor Lenet sent and when we started building
that legacy of what this business is not just for me,
but the legacy that I wanted to create. And it
can't create that if I'm not the CEO first in
my mind to.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Then build the business that I'm a envisioning.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I mean, I already have so many little rabbit holes
that I want to start going down. But we are
going to hand the reins over to doctor Lenette to
introduce herself.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Thank you so much for having me. I am doctor
Lynette Monte. I'm President of Intercultural Voices, a global media platform.
We are on a mission, a big mission, so I
hope that you'll join me to close the access gap
and redefine success for one million multicultural entrepreneurs and experts.
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We do that by increasing their visibility and intentionally helping
them to monetize their voice. And so thank you so
much for allowing me to share mind today. CEO mindset, Wooh,
that's a big one. I'm gonna sum it up to
say this CEO mindset is something that really took me
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forty years to realize what it really means. We've been
taught it's the hustle, it's the grind, it's all of
these other things. What I know to be true now
is that CEO mind set requires you to not just
focus on the business. It is about scaling your mind,
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your body, and your business. For women, specifically, which has
been my target market for forty years, I like to
say we can be happy, healthy and wealthy. Soap a
woman cape is no longer desired.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I'm literally taking notes, y'all because I have so many
things I want to dive into, but last, let's have
Renee introduce herself and then we can jam.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I know I'm excited too to dive into all this. Hi,
I'm Renee. Thanks for having me. Renee Bowen and I
run a couple of businesses. I am a pro photographer,
have been for about twenty years. I am also a
certified life coach. I also use NLP and hypnosis and
all of those wonderful unconscious mind reprogramming tools with my
coaching clients. So I do one on one in groups
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and I help them sort of break free from limiting beliefs,
frame things, step into the life that they want, and
actually carve out their own path. From me, SEO mindset
has meant a lot of different things over the years,
especially when my kids were little. It meant something different.
That's when I was building my business from literally nothing
with no money in anything. And now it means something
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different now when I have grown kids and I'm still
married after twenty five years, and I've run a couple
of businesses and I love what I do. For me,
it means regulation. It means that I am taking care
of my nervous system number one, because if I'm not
doing that, I'm not good for anybody. Learn that the
hard way, and so yes, anti hustle culture, step in
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into the flow of the stream and really standing in
that confidence of being the CEO and being the head
of your business, but also easing into it and relaxing
into it and letting it be easy because it can be.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, I speak in my language.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I actually have a mini course called fuck the Hustle
because I was just so over they'll just work hard.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Arm No.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
For those of you that.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Do not yet know me, I'm Bree Sealy. I brainwash
individuals for their success. I am also about the unconscious
and building new identities. There's a quote from Atomic Habits
that I changed a little bit. That's we don't rise
to the level of our goals. We fall to the
level of our identity.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
And that's so much of the work that I do
with people in the world.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And identity is something that Vanessa touched on and it
triggered something within me. And then doctor Lynette has been
in this for forty years and Renee just said something
too about the evolution of the CEO mindset.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
A lot of us were around back in.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
The days of Like the Boss Babe and Like the
Girl Boss era, and I want to touch on because
I think it's really important that so many women got
into business around this cutesy If I have the right
stationery and the right office decorps and the like white
Instagram feed like, I'll be a boss babe. I have
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seen that shift in the eighteen years i've been an
entrepreneur to now were like, no, no, no, we are CEOs.
I thought it was really interesting that this shifting identity
for women in business has happened.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
I definitely have a thought on that because my area
of expertise is operations. I've never had the luxury of
being a girl. It was always a girl. I was
a girly girl when I was a kid, but I
had to step into a masculine persona in order to
survive in that space, especially if you think about it,
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I started forty years ago when women weren't supposed to
be seeing, heard, or anything else, right, And so here
I come, as a female with chocolate skin into a white,
male dominated industry of operations, and I knew I was
smarter than everyone in the room.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I knew it absolutely hands down. I knew it.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
But they would still look at me and expect me
to go get the coffee. When we switched into this
boss babe thing, I actually couldn't understand it. I was
trying to figure out I never saw so much pink
in my life, and I'm like, I don't wear pink,
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not even own pink. But then I realized I never
had the space to do that even if I wanted
to do that. I do now and I still don't
have anything pink. But it was just very eye opening
to me that women believed that being a CEO or
being an entrepreneur as a female in fall pink, and
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it involved a certain esthetic.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
You can be feminine and.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
Still bring power energy, And I think that's where we've
lost our way. We think that feminine energy is also
submissive energy. You can be submissive and still be in
your power.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
And I just found that.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Whole era interesting and I'm so glad it's gone.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I mean, same, I do think to an extent that
it was maybe a little needed at the time, but
it felt to me almost very superficial, like you were saying,
doctor Lenet, the pink or Instagram feed or the office
decorps those things, whereas to me, now, what the CEO thing,
it's so deeply embedded in my soul. Right, It's not
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this swash of pink on my life. It's who the fuck.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
I am every day.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
It just feels so deep in my body and my soul.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yeah, for sure, I feel like the same for me
happened because I have always been a very dominant personality
just in general. Even as a kid, I was always
a nonconformist. Grew up in the very deep South, which
was very oppressive, and flew away to Calife as soon
as I could. I needed to find myself. As a kid,
I was always that person who was pushing buttons and
trying to be different than other people. I never felt
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that whole boss made movement. I do feel like there
was a necessity for it, and also with a sign
of the times as well. Just like everything, right, everything
sort of ebbs and flows, and we probably did need
to step a little further into our masculine to get
back to the middle. So I felt like it was
needed for a women to find their power. But now
I'm glad. I think that the the evolution of this
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anti hustle culture, this anti push push push push, push
push push, because what you resist persists, right, So we
know that it's just it's and for me, it's all
about the energy that I'm bringing, Like what kind of
energy am I bringing to the table do I want
to bring? Like you know in your face, forceful, like
I need you know, I need this, And I'm pushing
my way through no, like I've never really felt like
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I had to do that. I feel more magnetic when
I'm in my flow and yes, like like doctor Lynette
said that you are still empowered in that place. It's
just we have been programmed to believe that we're not.
And so I'm glad that that programming is being questioned
right now. And that's the biggest thing that a lot
of women are waking up to a lot of women,
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especially in my age group. I'm in my fifties right like,
people are like what am I doing? Like what is
my identity? I think it's a great conversation and I'm
glad we're having it, for sure.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
It's funny. I started my business around twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen,
and what was coming to me is when I even
think of like the clients who I'm working with now
who started their business after this trend, the trend maybe
not there from like total social media perspective, but I
think it's still there from a mindset perspective. When I
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think of some of the clients that I work with
who haven't been in business for that long, they still
they think it's about that fluffy stuff of like, oh, Okay,
I have the business that means I'm a CEO. And
I think that's what that eraror kind of created that
like you just have to have the stationary or have
the pink and that means you're seeing. What it has
created is this disconnect of what it really means to
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be a CEO, and we talk about CEO mindset, and
I think it is some of the clients that I
work with, like they actually have a hard time seeing
themselves in the CEO and I think a lot of
that girl boss culture is a part I'll say to blame.
It's because they were like, Okay, if you started the
business and you gave it a sexy name, you're a CEO. No,
that did not make you a CEO. And so yes,
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it's not socialized as much, but I do feel like
it's still impacting the subconscious mindsets of a lot of
women who have more recently started their business. When that
trend was starting where they're having a hard time actually
understanding what it means to be a CEO and embody
a CEO. I spoke to someone today and they're like, oh,
I don't even have like a plan for the year.
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I'm like, what are you doing in your business? And
I was listening and taking this in and I'm like,
I think it's still here, just kind of like invisibly
and subconsciously still impacting some women inside of their businesses
where they're not actually embodying the mindset because and to them,
what it meant to be a CEO was you just
got to look cute and be pretty. But they never
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actually learned what it really means to be CEO or
they're still trying to learn that.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
This is amazing. Let's I want to run with this.
So where is the disconnect?
Speaker 6 (15:14):
Then?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
How do we get more women over that tipping point?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Because I'll also say I have found that my audience
doesn't resonate as much.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
With the term CEO.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
How do we get more women to identify with the
actual this is what it takes to build and have
a business versus the external.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
What I was thinking about is my personal mission. You know,
we all have business missions and then we all have
personal missions like why are we here?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
What is our purpose?
Speaker 6 (15:45):
And my personal mission is to encourage women, specifically to
shed the shoods. What I've noticed over the years, over
the decades, is that we are so used to being
told what to do, what to wear, what to say,
how to sit, don't do that, don't eat.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
This, you should look like this.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
We have all these rules and from the time that
we left home at home, yes, but that's sort of
expected when you're still at home.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
But once you leave home, we.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Still have all these expectations that are put on us
and all of these hoops that we're expected to jump through.
And one of the things that comes to mind from
me so strongly is that the minute that we become
a mother, we've lost our identity.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Now wear the mother up right.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
It's not even our parents don't call and say how
are you, dear? The first thing our parents want to
know is how is the grandchild. When you get a job,
you're now an employee. When you get a husband, you're
now a wife.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
And every title and.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
Every activity that we add into our life, we are
taking one another role and we are continuing to be
dimmed if you will, as to who are we? Who
do we be? And I think that's where it gets lost.
So when you become an entrepreneur, now you're looking around
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trying to figure out, Okay, well now who am I?
Because you're not you anymore. You spent all these years
being all the roles that have been placed upon you,
and now you are an entrepreneur. So what does that
look like? You look at the people who you perceive
as successful, and so then you start to try to
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take on that persona and you're like, m that doesn't
feel good. Let me look at this person, see what
they're doing, see how they're acting, to see how they're dressing,
you know, and then you take on that persona and
you're like, hmm, that doesn't fit. And so my mission
personally is for us to shed societal shoulds and stand
in who we be because we're all here for a
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purpose and it's a purpose that only each one of
us can do can really deliver. So when I think
about how did it go left, that's to me where
it went left.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
And it's just a cycle.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
We talked about the way that it used to be,
in the way that it is now, it really is
a ten year cycle, and so the girl boss thing
that we're seeing leave, just give it a little while.
Just like the ball bottoms that I thought would never
come back when I was a kid, it came back
three or four times.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
So I'm curious to see what is the.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Quote unquote girl Boss Babe thing going to look like
in its next iteration. Because it is gonna return, It's
just not necessarily going to be called the same thing.
And hopefully when it returns, we as women will feel
our power and will be ready to step into that
power instead of passing it off to a title that
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someone has given us.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Yes, I'll past the mic.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
And I think it's that power piece that you talked
about at the end that I feel like with women
hesitating or not wanting to step into the CEO mindset.
To me, a CEO mindset is a mindset of power.
It is a mindset of strength. That's a mindset of leadership, right,
And so where's that gap still existing, like Vanessa was
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talking about, around women, regardless of whatever they call themselves
or what role.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
They're in, where are they.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Not wanting to embrace or own this power that's within
them to create their reality?
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I feel like this has a lot to do with
people pleasing, which is completely embedded into most women. I
don't know about you guys, but I see these show
up in my coaching all the time. Women come to
me and they don't think that that's what it is,
but at the heart of it, there's a lot of
people pleasing tendencies, and I feel like that is what
maybe initially drew them to scirl boss. Really, you know,
they have a business or they want to run a business.
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You just happen to be good at something and then
somebody tells you, oh my god, you should make money
at that, and then you're like okay, and you have
no idea what you're doing, right. I see often how
it is really hard for creative women, let's just say,
especially who are in the creative field, who want that
They want to be the CEO, they want to be
the boss, they want that empowerment. There's that aura of yes,
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I would like that identity, so seeking this identity in
this business and because they don't have an understanding of
what that's really going to take. And I'm going to
need to know my numbers and I probably need to
project and see if I can be profitable and how
to do all these things that feels really chaotic and hard.
So grasping on to this trend, to these you know,
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social trends, to this vibe that they feel like, oh,
I can be a part of this. So I feel
like there is a little bit of that that probably
is a part of the reason why there may be
a you know, an attraction to that even still, because
we've also been programmed that. And I think all of
this is the patriarchy by the way, you know it
really is. It's like it was starting because like women
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were trying to keep up right, so I understand why.
But at the same time, owning, like knowing yourself and
being the most you that you can possibly be is
literally your superpower. That's that's what I want women to
get to. You already have it. You already have it.
Let's just find out where it is. Let's find out
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where that people pleasing is coming from, because it's literally
just programming, and it's literally just something that you've continuing
to believe, and you have a choice to change that. Like,
any time you want to change that, I'll.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Just piggyback and say I totally agree. And especially when
you're talking about the part of like need to know
my numbers and I need to know it's the thing profitable,
but it's easier to grab onto the easy thing stuff.
Also when for women when it's like, oh, I actually
have to know how to do this, then they're on
the hook for something, And I agree, I think it's
the people creeping, But it's also oh my gosh, if
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I fail at this thing, that's self judgment or what
is everyone going to think about me? Or oh my gosh,
Like if I do go in, if I call myself
a CEO and this thing doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
How am I going to be perceived?
Speaker 5 (22:19):
What is my family going to think? What if everyone
on Instagram I'm going to think. I think it's also
that if I don't own CEO, then I don't have
to say that I failed at it, Like I could
just like slip under the radar and I could just
be me. But if I say I'm a CEO and
this thing doesn't work, it's also I think a lot
of that as well, that inner apparently even know what
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they really call it. But I think we live in
this world of like, don't let me actually be seen
and don't let me actually fail and be seen, because
then my whole world's going to fall apart instead of
being like, Okay, cool, I failed. This is just a
part of the journey. I think we tagged so much
of the result of our business to our identity. A
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bit of why some women resist on like actually owning
being a CEO because if it doesn't work, they don't
want to live on the other side of that.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
So interesting.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I'm actually getting ready to record a round table like
this about the fear of failure and fear of success.
If anyone has not yet subscribed, now would be a
great time to subscribe to Big Old Energy. I want
to ask one more question, and then I'd love to
then dive into each of your personal experiences a little
bit more. If you were to have someone come to
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you who just wanted a little bit of mentorship, a
little bit of inside, a little bit of advice, who
maybe has not yet fully stepped into their CEO mindset,
is there anything that you would say to them, or
encourage them or guide them with to do kind of
what we've just been talking about.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
I always start with, no matter who it is, no
matter where they are in their business, I'm really a
big believer in like getting really deeply connected to your purpose,
and like your purpose not in your businusiness, just your purpose,
your legacy, Who do you want to be? What is
the energy you're bringing to the table. Most of us
have more and a lot of different identities, like we've
been talking about, So that is usually a really sort
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of like weird onion to peel with people, because they
start off pretty superficial and I'm like, no, no, no, we're
not there yet. We're not there yet. We're not there yet.
It's like a deeper, deeper, deeper process. It has a
lot to do with how Simon Sinek has talked about
finding your why, but it's even a little bit more
nuanced than that, bringing in the unconscious, because I really
believe that everything that we do, whether it's business or personal,
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comes from that how good you feel, how well you
know yourself, and who do you want to be? Actually
in clarity on that, so that you can paint the
picture for yourself, put it in your road map so
you know where you're going, and also feel deeply deeply
connected to it, so that when you are marketing, you
can talk about it effortlessly. When you are outside in
the world, you feel connected to a greater sense of meaning.
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So I feel like that would be my suggestion, and
that's usually where I start with people. It's really really
powerful and it's one of my favorite things to do
with people.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
I really love that, Renee. I'll just add to that,
like one of the things you kind of said it,
I think earlier Bree about identity, that whole thing. You
can never outperform your identity. So one of the things
I like to get my clients to do is like
a want and expectations exercise, and they really write down,
like what do I want, Oh, I want this business,
I want I bank accountl look like this, I want
this lifestyle. What are you expecting? And you're going to
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find there's this huge disconnect between what you want and
what you expect, And that is where I also like
to start is Okay, let's figure about where we're disconnected here.
Because if you're saying you want to be a CEO,
but you're expecting that the business is going to fail,
you're expecting that you're not going to get clients, you're
expecting that no one's going to pay your prices, then
we can't get you the CEO until you actually start
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working through the expectations, and then under those expectations, is
all the money blocked? Is all the money stories, it's
all of the subconscious beliefs that they have, And then
we kind of go deeper there. Starting with that baseline
of like what do I really want? What am I
actually expecting my life right now? It's going to just
help to identify and illuminate the gap between who that
person is and them saying they want to be the CEO.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Wow. I love all of that and absolutely agree.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
I would just add I tend to be the person
that likes to get straight to the nitty gritty. I'm
not really good with the fluff. And one of the
questions that I ask is what were your dreams before
anyone had an opinion? Because for me, it puts the
cherry on top of what you all have said. It
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really because what's going on is it's underneath. It's trauma,
it's fears, it's gremlin speaking, it's all the things. It
depends on what is your educational background and where you're
coming from what you call that thing, but it's in
the way and it's not true. I really just ask
the hard question, what really?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
What was the dream we.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
All seem to be living and building someone else's dream,
not necessarily the big, boldacious dream that we always had.
And so I I am always asking what is the big,
boldacious dream that you probably haven't told anyone that you
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are thinking about, that you're whispering to yourself about what's that.
Let's work on that, let's focus on that, Let's build that.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
What I would add is I tend to be a
permission giver. And my invitation for anyone listening to this
who wants to step into the CEO mindset but hasn't yet,
I want to say, give yourself permission to do it,
very similarly to what all three of these women have
just talked about, like shutting all of the nonsense that
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you don't need, shutting all the other voices, getting in
touch with who you are, and just claim it for yourself,
because the longer you resist it, it's like magnets that
they're pushing against each other. If you just flip those
magnets around, they come right together.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
So own it. Give yourself permission to say.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Fuck, this is what I want, And not from a
place of need or lack or scarcity, but from a
place of I just really want this.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I want this identity, I want this experience. I want it,
and you know what, I'm gonna own it.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I'm gonna put it on today like an outfit I
would put on, and I'm just gonna own it. And
I'm gonna put it on again tomorrow, and put it
on again the next day and have this experiment of
being a CEO and see how it turns out. If
you're listening to this and thinking, I wish I had
more people in my life who just get it, you're
not alone. Big Goal Energy women are rare. We're the
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ones dreaming big, defying norms, and refusing to settle. And
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Speaker 3 (29:18):
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Speaker 1 (29:20):
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Speaker 4 (29:24):
Have to do it alone.
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community to learn more. I want to dive into some
of the practices that you use in your businesses in
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your lives to help you either maintain your CEO mindset
or uphold it. Are there any daily practices or things
that you do that help you own being that CEO
on a daily.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Basis, Yes, the yes, yes, yes, I do a few things.
But I'll share to one that I've always been doing,
one that I actually picked up recently. One of the
things I've always been doing, and I teach this to
my clients is create a money manifesto. And this can
sometimes evolve throughout the year, but the beginning of the
year I like to always create it, and it typically
focuses on like the next twelve months and what do
(30:28):
I want to create in the business, even just from
like the team, from operations, from revenue, but then it
goes into like lifestyle, like what is the business actually funding?
Because my business must fund this life left So I
usually cracked out that manifest So it's usually for twelve months,
but if there's something else that I'm really wanting to
create or call in over those twelve months, I'll have
that in there. But then I write this manifesto out
(30:49):
and I actually record it on my phone, but I
record it using the background or instrumental to whatever my
money song is, and that of course can change every year.
Well whatever that money song is is, I record the
instrumental behind it, and I listen to it every morning
and listen to it every night. And it's especially in
the morning, like I will listen to it like right
when I open up my laptop. It really gets me
(31:11):
into that CEO identity, and it's that CEO mode. I'm like, okay,
like this is who I am. This is how I
said I'm going to show up in my business, this
is how I said I'm.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Gonna run my day.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
It just really shifts my identity. It takes out anything
that happened the night before, the day before. It really
gets me centered. And then I listen to it at
the end of the day as well, like right before
I'm going to bed, just again to like reprogram my subconscious,
remind myself of who I am, because not just with
what happens in business bus things that happen in life
a family, with our economy, like everything, it's so easy
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to get distracted or shifted in different directions that you
forget who you are. And even as doctor Lynnett says, like,
we are different roles even in our day to day
and so my manifesto just brings me back to my
CEO self and my THEO identity. So that's something I
do every day. Another practice that I picked up in
actually from the book ten X is easier than two X.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
I don't know if you all have read that book,
so good, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
That's hire sign on this book. I have read it
two years in a row. Highly recommend ten X is
easier than two X. If y'all haven't read it, I'm
pretty sure people have heard me talk about it on
here before.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yes, yeah, highly red the Bat.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
The Bat, So I initially heard it there, and then
I also read their other books, The Gap and The Game,
and they go a little deeper into it there. But
what the practice is is at the end of the day,
you write down your three wins for the day, but
then you also write down the three wins.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
You want for tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
And that part is like the huge mind frat shift
because you're almost like projecting and manifesting what is going
to happen the next day, but also just writing down
the three wins. What it does for me is it
reminds me of what I've done, who I am, and
even if, like you know, the day didn't go as
planned or the launch didn't go as planned, or like
this in books as planning the business, it grounds me in,
(32:54):
oh no, no, what we did have a win, or
we did have three wins, and also here the wins
that are going to tomorrow and that it's been such
a name changer and just like my mindset and just
like how I've seen myself as a CEO, and I've
only been doing that I think, probably like the last month,
but highly recommend that one.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
I love those because like I do versions of those
as well. But I like that second piece of it too.
I kind of do a little bit of that. You know,
for me, it's all about regulation. It's no excuses for
me anymore. I'm going to be regulated. The world can
be burning and it will that I will not be
burning along with it. I do a couple of different things.
(33:31):
I have a mantra that I've recorded. I like to
keep it short. I use hypnosis techniques because I do
a lot of my own self hypnosis and I do
custom tracks for clients. And I love hypnosis because it's
different than meditation. I can just move aside and I
can let myself off the hook. I don't have to
be paying attention, and I know it's working on my
unconscious mind. I also lay them over by neural beats,
(33:53):
so as I'm coming out of delta into theta state
in the morning, I'm just happen on that bandwagon, continuing
on the thing to feel good, listening to something as
I'm getting up, getting dressed, kind of doing my thing.
I'm not going to create. I'm not going to look
at emails, and I'm going to glance on my phone
because i do have adult kids and one is in college.
I'm going to make sure everyone is okay. I'm not
in a hospital, and outside of that, I'm not partaking
(34:16):
with my phone. I'm listening to the thing on my phone,
but I'm not opening my emails. I am not consuming
anything before I have controlled my energy for the day.
That's my hardline, and it can even just be for
ten or fifteen minutes. But I'm going to do it.
I've also taken it a step further. I don't do
this every morning, but I'll do it maybe like once
a week where I've made like a movie, right, so
it's not just me listening, but it's an active vision board.
(34:39):
The thing with this is that if I watch it,
and when I do watch it, I make myself feel
how I'm feeling when I'm getting those things and doing
those things, like when I'm in Italy, when I'm you know,
off doing my stuff, like I'm feeling how good it's
going to feel in my body. So that's a little
bit different, but kind of the same idea. And then
I also one hundred percent do the end of day
thing because I also know how powerful it is to
(35:01):
reprogram that unconscious mind. By the time I get in bed,
I'm a human design generator. I have like burned out
all my energy for the day. I am tired. Sleeping
is my sleeperpower. Thank god I have that ability because
like I have always been able to sleep and sleep hard,
but I feel like I have because I am in
alignment and burning that all day. So like by the
(35:23):
time it is time for rest, I'm ready for it.
But I sometimes will still have a lot of ideas
that are there, and I'm like, I have to get
it out. Like writing it out is a really big thing.
So I've always written out what I actually do today
because it feels like I probably didn't do a lot,
but I really did a lot writing down just noticing
what I've actually accomplished, and then also thinking that next
piece about not just my to do list for tomorrow,
(35:45):
but expectations for tomorrow. But what I like to do
is just talk to my unconscious mind basically and say, okay, listen.
Sometimes actually have an out loud colorization whether depending on
how tired or not tired, I am telling her, I
want you to work this out while I sleep. I've
got this thing going on. I know you can deal
with this while I sleep, and we're super efficient like that,
so I trust that you are going to just like
(36:06):
drop in what I need in the morning, go ahead
and take care of that. And so it is, and
I just let it go. That's my little mindset trick.
It keeps me regulated, which is important.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
I needed to take notes on those ideas.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
I love the idea of writing things down in the
morning and then doing it in the evening.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I have so many things that I do, and I sort.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
Of switch because I get bored fast. There's maybe three
that are consistent and have remained consistent.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Over the decades.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
One is asking myself what are the top three things
I must get done that day? Because there's a million
things that need to be done, especially if you have
a business, sometimes we get really caught up in doing
things that don't matter, that don't move the needle, that's.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Just busy work.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
So I really started asking myself, what are those top
three things you us get done today? And I play
a game with myself, which is to try to get
them done by twelve o'clock noon.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
I do that because then.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
I feel like I have the rest of the day
to play, to fidget, to do whatever it is that
I desire to do without feeling the weight of something
that needs to be done. Second is I like to
stay focused by having tabs.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I am a multitasker.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
I open the tabs for what I need to get
done that day because that's what keeps me focused. I
don't get sidetracked on things that pop in my email,
things that pop into my life and jump on my
plate because I can look at my tabs and I
know these are the three things. When I'm done, I
close the tab. It's sort of like a checklist, but
(37:52):
for me, it just really worked in tab for one.
The third thing is I challenge myself to do at
least one thing each day that scares the bejeebas out
of me, because that helps me to stay out of.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
My comfort zone.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
It's comfortable there, it feels good there, and it also
does not get us to where our true purpose is waiting, right,
And so I really like to do something that scares me. Now,
one thing that is not on my list, Just so
we're queer as I am not getting in an ice bath, Okay,
I am not.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Every time I.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
See someone do that, I am like, no, I don't
care what y'all say.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
That does.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
So my mind said, I'm not getting.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
In the ice bath.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I just saw science, y'all.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
I just saw science that it doesn't work for women
the same way it works for men's.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Well, ice pods.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Are actually I'm the same where I'm like, don't I
don't do cold. I am not a cold person. I
grew up in Minnesota. I am good, so I've always
shied away from them. And then I saw the science
and I.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Was like.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I knew. I knew that that didn't work. So for women,
if you need an out, just be like back. It doesn't.
It doesn't work for us, so we don't need to
do it.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
No out needed, No is a complete sentence. I am
not doing it. The fourth thing, which is probably the
one that is least expected, is I take a three
hour nap every day every day. As a matter of fact,
I this is my nap time.
Speaker 7 (39:28):
And so I had to shift and take my nap
earlier because I take a three hour nap every single day, not.
Speaker 6 (39:39):
Two hours and thirty minutes, not two hours of four.
If I cannot have my three hour nap, you are
liable to get the grumpy doctor Lynette. And so I
really want to share that because I want people to
understand that CEOs doesn't mean work all day. It doesn't
mean hustle and grind. Everyone needs to identify how do
(40:00):
they refuel. And we mentioned a little bit about human design.
You guys will understand why I take this nap because.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
I'm a projector can heed my nap. Okay, I need
my nap. I learned to lean into that.
Speaker 6 (40:16):
And again that goes back to the shuds. We've been
talking about people telling me, what do you mean like,
you're not a toddler? What do you mean you take
a nap?
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Yes, I do. Turn my phone on.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Do not distarve.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
Everyone in my family knows this is.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Not nap time. Don't call, don't text.
Speaker 6 (40:31):
Don't send smoke signals, no pigeons with notes, because I
am going to take my nap.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
I want to give everyone else permission whatever.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
That looks like for you to stay in that CEO mindset,
to stay in your purpose, to stay in your energy,
to stay in your safe space, whatever all that is
that you need to thrive, not just survive. Do that
and don't worry about what.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Everybody else is doing.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
This goes back to there's so many like YouTube videos
out there about the perfect morning routine or I love
him so much, The Miracle Morning by hal l Rod,
where it's like, you have to do these things.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
It has to look this way.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
And when people ask me, what's your morning routine, like,
I'm like my morning routine, I will tell you what
it is, and it works for me, so it doesn't
work for everyone. This way, the four of us can
sit here and give you the listener all the tools
in the world There's two things.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
One, tools don't work unless you fucking do them, and
if they're not a line for you.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
If I were to give you a sweater that was
ten sizes too small and said put this on, would
you put it on?
Speaker 2 (41:33):
No, you wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
You'd be like, that doesn't fit me, thanks so much.
So why are you putting on things that other people
are giving you telling you to put on when it
doesn't fit you? I love love that caveat Doctor Lynnette.
I want to add two quick things to this that
helped me stay in my CEO mindset. In addition to
so much of what was mentioned focus. I am an
(41:54):
adhd CEO female entrepreneur. Found out about it after the
age of forty Hauzah, and I learned that if my
notifications are on, or if I'm getting pop ups from
Instagram and Facebook and TikTok and email and text messages
and boxer, and my entire day is spent at the
(42:15):
mercy of someone else's whims And that is not how
a CEO operates. I learned many many years ago. My
phone is on do not Disturb for the majority of
the day. I get no notifications on my cell phones.
I don't know if I have a new email unless
I open the app, I get nothing. Focus is such
(42:38):
a CEO mindset tool.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
And then the other thing I.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Will say too is drink your water, ladies, drink the water.
I am just off five week cleanse, I think, and
the importance of drinking. Anything else you want to share
about CEO mindset that you feel like would be beneficial
or impactful, I would just say, like we were talking
about before, all of this was so good too, by
(43:03):
the way, and I love the In a minute you
said you took a three hour nap.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
By the way, I was like, cheese a projector side note,
human design is a very powerful tool. But what I
really wanted to say here is that if you feel
called to do it, if you feel called to be
a CEO, if you feel called to have your own business,
and you might be good at something like I said before,
and you want to figure out how way to make
money at it, you can do this. Do not feel
that it's outside of you. And if you had the idea,
(43:28):
and if you had the vision, it's already happening in
another timeline, so you might as well just step into
it right now. Like you can absolutely have it. It's
yours to have and you can make the rules, you
can make it up as you go, and you can
let it be messy along the way. Just remember to
take one little small step at a time and to
take care of yourself, regulate yourself, honor yourself in the process.
Speaker 6 (43:49):
I really want to encourage everyone to live the legacy
you want to leave, because what you're doing now is
the legacy. We keep thinking that legacy is about what
we're going to leave, and that is true. However, the
legacy is what your kids see you doing right now.
(44:12):
If they see you tired, if they see you working
all the time, if they see you sick, if they
see you unhappy, you're planting those seeds of legacy now.
And so please don't worry so much about what's going
to happen after you're gone, because it's not going to look.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
The way you desire.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
If what you desire doesn't look that way today.
Speaker 5 (44:38):
I love that to peeback on that. When you said
owning the legacy now, what I was going to say
is own that CEO, My own that you are a
CEO now. I think sometimes we tag being a CEO
to something else, especially money or when my business makes
a certain amount or when I hit this mile zone.
But if you want to create this business, if you
want to build this business, you have to own the
(44:59):
CEO I set now. Doesn't matter how much you make,
it doesn't matter what the business looks like, it doesn't matter.
It's still a night idea. I think if you can
literally really talk about identity it own the identity now
that will make a break whether this become for this
is when you create the legacy or not so.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
Own it now.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
I'm really big into quantum theory, and there is only
the now moment. So if you're waiting for your legacy
at some point in the future, you're gonna be waiting
a very long time. It's not coming. If you're waiting
to be that CEO in the future, be waiting a
long time.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
The future never exists. Now is the only time there is.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Some of my favorite work to do with clients is
to do future self subconscious activation, where yes, you get
to go meet your future self, but then you merge
with that person and then the question becomes, as we're
doing the reinforcement for thirty days, how are you being
her today?
Speaker 2 (45:50):
How are you being the CEO? Today, How are you
living your legacy today? Because today is it all any
of us have.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
If anyone is interested in my your self meditation, not
the activation, but the meditation is in the Big Goal
Energy app. So if you haven't yet joined the app,
make sure to hop on in there. You can get
the future self Meditation for free to help you just
kind of conceptualize who is that future me? And then
how can I close the gap between my identity today
(46:20):
and their identity.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
The more that.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
You can be that identity now, first of all, the
quicker your manifestations, your legacy, it's all going to unfold
so much more quickly.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
But also the journey is going to be so much easier.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Something doctor Lynette just said reminded me so much of
my journey is that my entrepreneurial journey has been pushing
things off and waiting and doing things in the future
when I'm there or whatever. And it's like I was
just overworking and underliving.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
That's it. That's the whole And.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
Now I'm like, oh shit, how do I overlive and underwork?
That's my whole vibe recently, and I will tell y'all
pretty fun. I wanted to say thank you all so
much for joining me today. All three of you have
been just absolutely phenomenal. This was a great conversation. I'm
telling y'all, I took notes as we were talking, so
(47:12):
I have lots of things. I'm gonna go make my
money Manifesto Vanessa and listen to it every day because
it's one of my favorite manifestation tricks. Let's wrap up
by just each saying where the best place is that
people can find you if they want to chat with
you deeper, or follow your journey more or learn from you.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
Thanks so much for having me. This was really really
awesome and great meeting all of you, and you can
find me. I'm pretty active on Instagram. I'm at Renee
Bowen pretty much everywhere Renee bowing dot com, and then
on TikTok Renee Underscore Bowen.
Speaker 6 (47:44):
Thank you so much for having all of us, and
it's nice to meet you too as well. Googling me
is the easiest good then you'll just find whatever good
stuff you find. But on social media, I spend most
of my time on LinkedIn, so you can find theseiah
connect with me. Let me know that you've shared some
time with us today on the podcast, I would love
(48:05):
to talk with you and follow you and read your content,
and thank you again for just being part of this
amazing community.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
And make sure you get in that app now. She
told you she has something in there for you, so
get in there and get busy.
Speaker 5 (48:22):
I hang out with some time at Instagram, so you
can find me at mitworthy co on Instagram. You don't,
so check out our website for all of our courses
somitworthycode dot com. But yeah, slide into my DMS and
hopefully this conversation was enlightening for all of you. But
thank you Freeze for having us.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Thank you all so much. Last, but not least, as
I mentioned, so the app. If you'd like to get it,
you can either just go to the Google play Store
or the Apple Store and search Big Goal Energy. It's
the only one that pops up, which you know, yay
for clever names, or you can visit pre sealy dot
com slash community and get access to it. Thank you,
thank you, thank you so much. This was so lovely
(48:59):
and I just really appreciate all three of your perspectives.
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Speaker 4 (49:11):
Because Big Goal.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
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if you're ready to go deeper, explore the tools, hypnosis,
sessions and support. Because your vision deserves more than hustle,
join us on the Big Goal Energy app by visiting
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(49:36):
Until next time, trust yourself, dream bigger, and never forget
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