November 8, 2024 • 9 mins
Wes and I chat about a quick show in Florida before finishing a new album along with a fake backstage pass & a cassette drop with a security guard that would get Wes signed with Fred Durst of Limp Bizkit.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Sounds like your cell phone's cutting out a little bit
on that end.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Get yeah, it's a little tiny plate.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I'll just go there, you go, there, you go, the balconies,
you're you're outside, and then you get a good cell
signal and even you think they're the world we live
in today, right, I mean, you'd think where we are
in the world technology wise today, cell phone dropouts would
not be a thing. I mean you no, you don't. Well, Wes,
(00:35):
it's a pleasure to have you on board. Man, welcome back.
Coming back to Tampa for the first time in a
minute this weekend at the Florida Cracker Festival. There a
fall concert series which is happened at the Jack Daniels
Little Pavilion there on Saturday night. So catch us up
to what's been happened. I know you've got I know
you've got new music coming. I know that we'll get
to that in a minute. But catch us up. Last
(00:55):
couple of years, been hitting the reset button, recharging the batteries.
Ready to go again, Yes.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
There man, ready to go.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Just in a studio every day pretty much. And uh yeah,
this record's gonna be awesome, dude.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Now with with this, you know, because we're not far
away here. You're going to celebrate the twenty fifth anniversary
of the band because O one is whenever. You know,
we were introduced to you and the monster Smash after Smash,
the countless tours. We were lucky enough to have you
come through Tampa Bay a lot over those years. To you,
to you in the last almost twenty five years. How
(01:36):
has the business changed for you in the better, in
the worst? What's it like today versus what it was
like back then?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Oh? Man, Well, you know, we had we made the
cut man.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Right before the whole like internet, like you know, all
the artists getting snagged on and snacked on and basically
so at least they figured that out, you know, like
to get the artists.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I mean, I'm not just talking about myself. I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
All artists paid like you know, compensated for hard work man,
you know, and dedication. So that was a that was
a switch right there. But at least the powers that
be figured it out to where artists can get compensated
for their hard work and efforts, you know, And that's
just that's really really cool.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Well for you, it's kind of both because not only
are you an artist, but you're also a songwriter, so
it kind of has had like a two fold effect
for you because each gets paid a little bit differently.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, I mean it's really cool the way they sorted
it out.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I was just like, okay, great.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
You know, everybody knows records really don't sell anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
You know, I'm the good luck you know.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
But they figured it out, and I guess everybody came
to a conclusion, and the artist songwriters, so yeah, man,
we're getting compensated and we're getting.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Appreciated, you know. I mean, it's it's it's truly hard.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
It's hard work, man, to write songs and perform and
be an artist. Man, it really, really, seriously is It's
not the easiest thing in the world. So it might
look easy on the outside looking in, but man, there's
a lot of hard work that goes into it. So
all the powers that be that made that all happen,
and getting everybody and all the performers and artists and
(03:25):
mechanical people and everybody man, everybody involved, you know, compensated
for their hard work. And it's it's truly a very
very uh it's it's yeah, man, I mean, it's it's work. Man,
it's fun, but it is work.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Well, that's that's what But that's what happens when you
when it's when you're great at it, you make it
look so easy. But like for you when you're writing,
is there like a specific place you like to go?
Is it like do you have like a writing house
or a place in the country you like to go.
I mean a lot of artists do different things to
find creativity and space to get their head in it.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
What what I need?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
All I need is a place where I have right now,
place to make noise and be loud and be just
be me.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
And I usually wait for everybody to go to sleep.
So that's that's my trick. That's my only trick. Man.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I just wait for the girlfriend or whoever. I just
wait for everybody to go to bed. And then I'm like,
did I tippy toe out of the wherever the hell
I am?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
And I go straight to my to my make noise
places nobody can say and nobody can tell me to
shut the hell up.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
You know that is all because I'm a night out too,
and I do my best work after midnight. It's just
it's just how some of us work creatively. Because I
feel like the world is mine. At that point, all
the other distractions are gone and I can do what
I need to do to be creative and I can
just let it flow and nobody else is distracted exactly.
Now for this new music coming out, do you have
an album titled yet?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I've called this one just the Machine.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
There's a lot of meaning in that. I mean really
there is, because it's like, what machine are you referring to?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
To kissing?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Because the music industry is a business, is still a
big ass machine, and it may not be the kindness
in the world or everything else.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, give it a big and move to the machine.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I love it. That is absolutely fantastic. Now, for where
are you recording this album? Are you just staying in La?
Do you have like a place there where you get
this done.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I'm right down here in Rigondo Beach, and I got
a spot down on Long Beach.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Awesome, awesome, best practice space ever, best studio ever.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
And then there's another place in like willow oh umping
down the road.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
We've got a few spots then, but I got my
go to and right now I'm showing down at the
beach to my spot and I'm waiting for people to
go to bed, and then I'm going to I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Recording at the most studios.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
In Hollywood, California, right off Hollywood, all of our right there,
the smack Dad right in the middle of all of it.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
But wow, I don't really see much of it.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I just I've go to Danny Treos get tacos every day,
and then I go back and I get behind a
microphone or I get behind of a guitar, whatever the
instrument is. We're taking care of it. It's getting handled.
And this sounded pretty darn good man.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Are you gonna share something maybe soon? I mean, what
are we talking about as far as a release time?
Are we talking twenty twenty five here after the holidays?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, it's gonna be two five man, got it?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Man, this is great West Ganlon from Puddle of Mud
popping on before they hit us this town this weekend
up in Brooksville for the Florida Cracker Fall Music Festival.
It's going to be a huge show. Are you gonna
Are you gonna treat everybody with maybe one new track
during the show for sure? Man?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna rock a badass jam. Dude, real.
That's what I love.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Man West Gantlin from Puddle of Mud on board with us,
and we're talking about not only the new album that's coming,
but you know, you go back to two thousand and
one when because you and I we've spoken on multiple occasions,
but I never ever talked about this with you back then.
Was when when Fred Durst when you popped, because you've
been going since nineteen ninety one, that's when you fired
up the band first. Right, Yeah, So how were you
(07:09):
like at a showcase show when he saw you? Did
someone tell him to come see you? How did that work?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I was at with end my buddy. My my buddy
had got tickets to the Family Values concert at the
Arena down in Kansas City, and I was moving out
of town and I was basically just like giving up
music at all. I brought a demo tape that was
sent to me by a really, really wonderful lady named
Leisha Neunz, and she had made all the all the music.
(07:40):
She made two demos, she made two tapes, two cassette tapes.
I brought one of those to the show, and my
friend made a backstage fake backstage pass. I went backstage.
I gave it to Fred Dirt Security Security Force dude,
Richie Surrency is his name, and I said, have fun
(08:01):
throwing out a way, dude, and then blam oh later
I get a page on a little pager like we used.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
To have back in the day. Yeah, and my friend shows.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I don't know who you prayed to, man, but I
just got off the pull of Fred Dirts and you
got Orleans right now and fly to la immediately. And
I was like, are you kidding me? And He's like, no,
go to the freaking airport right now, dude. I'm like, whoa, man, Wow,
that's how that happened, then.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Dude, and here you are, seven million copies worldwide later,
continuing to put out great music, come out, give people
a good time and the distraction in the world we
live in today. Because that's that's what I'm looking forward
to this weekend is just a fun, kick ass show.
You can sing along to have a good time, forget
the world and just enjoy yourself. Man, that's what I love.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
That's what I'm talking about, man.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Damn straight Wes. I appreciate your time. I know you're
very busy. We're looking forward to seeing you this weekend.
Get back to work banging on a new album. We'll
talk to you this weekend.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Bud I now I appreciate you man, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Wes have a good buddy.
Sounds like your cell phone's cutting out a little bit
on that end.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Get yeah, it's a little tiny plate.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I'll just go there, you go, there, you go, the balconies,
you're you're outside, and then you get a good cell
signal and even you think they're the world we live
in today, right, I mean, you'd think where we are
in the world technology wise today, cell phone dropouts would
not be a thing. I mean you no, you don't. Well, Wes,
(00:35):
it's a pleasure to have you on board. Man, welcome back.
Coming back to Tampa for the first time in a
minute this weekend at the Florida Cracker Festival. There a
fall concert series which is happened at the Jack Daniels
Little Pavilion there on Saturday night. So catch us up
to what's been happened. I know you've got I know
you've got new music coming. I know that we'll get
to that in a minute. But catch us up. Last
(00:55):
couple of years, been hitting the reset button, recharging the batteries.
Ready to go again, Yes.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
There man, ready to go.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Just in a studio every day pretty much. And uh yeah,
this record's gonna be awesome, dude.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Now with with this, you know, because we're not far
away here. You're going to celebrate the twenty fifth anniversary
of the band because O one is whenever. You know,
we were introduced to you and the monster Smash after Smash,
the countless tours. We were lucky enough to have you
come through Tampa Bay a lot over those years. To you,
to you in the last almost twenty five years. How
(01:36):
has the business changed for you in the better, in
the worst? What's it like today versus what it was
like back then?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Oh? Man, Well, you know, we had we made the
cut man.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Right before the whole like internet, like you know, all
the artists getting snagged on and snacked on and basically
so at least they figured that out, you know, like
to get the artists.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I mean, I'm not just talking about myself. I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
All artists paid like you know, compensated for hard work man,
you know, and dedication. So that was a that was
a switch right there. But at least the powers that
be figured it out to where artists can get compensated
for their hard work and efforts, you know, And that's
just that's really really cool.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Well for you, it's kind of both because not only
are you an artist, but you're also a songwriter, so
it kind of has had like a two fold effect
for you because each gets paid a little bit differently.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, I mean it's really cool the way they sorted
it out.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I was just like, okay, great.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
You know, everybody knows records really don't sell anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
You know, I'm the good luck you know.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
But they figured it out, and I guess everybody came
to a conclusion, and the artist songwriters, so yeah, man,
we're getting compensated and we're getting.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Appreciated, you know. I mean, it's it's it's truly hard.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
It's hard work, man, to write songs and perform and
be an artist. Man, it really, really, seriously is It's
not the easiest thing in the world. So it might
look easy on the outside looking in, but man, there's
a lot of hard work that goes into it. So
all the powers that be that made that all happen,
and getting everybody and all the performers and artists and
(03:25):
mechanical people and everybody man, everybody involved, you know, compensated
for their hard work. And it's it's truly a very
very uh it's it's yeah, man, I mean, it's it's work. Man,
it's fun, but it is work.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Well, that's that's what But that's what happens when you
when it's when you're great at it, you make it
look so easy. But like for you when you're writing,
is there like a specific place you like to go?
Is it like do you have like a writing house
or a place in the country you like to go.
I mean a lot of artists do different things to
find creativity and space to get their head in it.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
What what I need?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
All I need is a place where I have right now,
place to make noise and be loud and be just
be me.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
And I usually wait for everybody to go to sleep.
So that's that's my trick. That's my only trick. Man.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I just wait for the girlfriend or whoever. I just
wait for everybody to go to bed. And then I'm like,
did I tippy toe out of the wherever the hell
I am?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
And I go straight to my to my make noise
places nobody can say and nobody can tell me to
shut the hell up.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
You know that is all because I'm a night out too,
and I do my best work after midnight. It's just
it's just how some of us work creatively. Because I
feel like the world is mine. At that point, all
the other distractions are gone and I can do what
I need to do to be creative and I can
just let it flow and nobody else is distracted exactly.
Now for this new music coming out, do you have
an album titled yet?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I've called this one just the Machine.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
There's a lot of meaning in that. I mean really
there is, because it's like, what machine are you referring to?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
To kissing?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Because the music industry is a business, is still a
big ass machine, and it may not be the kindness
in the world or everything else.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, give it a big and move to the machine.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I love it. That is absolutely fantastic. Now, for where
are you recording this album? Are you just staying in La?
Do you have like a place there where you get
this done.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I'm right down here in Rigondo Beach, and I got
a spot down on Long Beach.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Awesome, awesome, best practice space ever, best studio ever.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
And then there's another place in like willow oh umping
down the road.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
We've got a few spots then, but I got my
go to and right now I'm showing down at the
beach to my spot and I'm waiting for people to
go to bed, and then I'm going to I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Recording at the most studios.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
In Hollywood, California, right off Hollywood, all of our right there,
the smack Dad right in the middle of all of it.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
But wow, I don't really see much of it.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I just I've go to Danny Treos get tacos every day,
and then I go back and I get behind a
microphone or I get behind of a guitar, whatever the
instrument is. We're taking care of it. It's getting handled.
And this sounded pretty darn good man.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Are you gonna share something maybe soon? I mean, what
are we talking about as far as a release time?
Are we talking twenty twenty five here after the holidays?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, it's gonna be two five man, got it?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Man, this is great West Ganlon from Puddle of Mud
popping on before they hit us this town this weekend
up in Brooksville for the Florida Cracker Fall Music Festival.
It's going to be a huge show. Are you gonna
Are you gonna treat everybody with maybe one new track
during the show for sure? Man?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna rock a badass jam. Dude, real.
That's what I love.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Man West Gantlin from Puddle of Mud on board with us,
and we're talking about not only the new album that's coming,
but you know, you go back to two thousand and
one when because you and I we've spoken on multiple occasions,
but I never ever talked about this with you back then.
Was when when Fred Durst when you popped, because you've
been going since nineteen ninety one, that's when you fired
up the band first. Right, Yeah, So how were you
(07:09):
like at a showcase show when he saw you? Did
someone tell him to come see you? How did that work?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I was at with end my buddy. My my buddy
had got tickets to the Family Values concert at the
Arena down in Kansas City, and I was moving out
of town and I was basically just like giving up
music at all. I brought a demo tape that was
sent to me by a really, really wonderful lady named
Leisha Neunz, and she had made all the all the music.
(07:40):
She made two demos, she made two tapes, two cassette tapes.
I brought one of those to the show, and my
friend made a backstage fake backstage pass. I went backstage.
I gave it to Fred Dirt Security Security Force dude,
Richie Surrency is his name, and I said, have fun
(08:01):
throwing out a way, dude, and then blam oh later
I get a page on a little pager like we used.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
To have back in the day. Yeah, and my friend shows.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I don't know who you prayed to, man, but I
just got off the pull of Fred Dirts and you
got Orleans right now and fly to la immediately. And
I was like, are you kidding me? And He's like, no,
go to the freaking airport right now, dude. I'm like, whoa, man, Wow,
that's how that happened, then.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Dude, and here you are, seven million copies worldwide later,
continuing to put out great music, come out, give people
a good time and the distraction in the world we
live in today. Because that's that's what I'm looking forward
to this weekend is just a fun, kick ass show.
You can sing along to have a good time, forget
the world and just enjoy yourself. Man, that's what I love.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
That's what I'm talking about, man.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Damn straight Wes. I appreciate your time. I know you're
very busy. We're looking forward to seeing you this weekend.
Get back to work banging on a new album. We'll
talk to you this weekend.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Bud I now I appreciate you man, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Wes have a good buddy.
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