October 16, 2024 • 28 mins
In this episode, we sit down with Coralee Beatty, Founder & Fractional COO at Thrive HQ and Owner of Fire and Ice HVAC Services. As an inspiring woman business owner in the construction industry, Coralee shares her unique journey in navigating a traditionally male-dominated field. She opens up about the challenges and triumphs of building a successful construction business, offers valuable insights on leadership, and highlights the resilience it takes to not only survive but thrive in the industry.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, hello everyone, welcome to our first episode of COPOD.
I'm your host, Caroline and I'm joined today with Corley Beatty.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
How are you doing. I'm doing well. How are you.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I'm doing good, doing good good.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
So Coraley is a prominent construction business owner, a mentor,
and an advocate for women in construction. So, Coraley, I
know a little bit about your background, but tell me
a little bit more about you.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I'm going to give you the colds Notes version because
I feel like it always gets really long. I have
been in the construction industry for almost thirty years, and
I guess that's part of why it can be long.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
But I started in the mid nineties and.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I started as a building envelope consultant in a multinational
engineering firm. I worked in both Canada and the US
doing that. I was there for ten years. In that time,
I met my husband, who happens to be a plumber
by trade. And no, we didn't actually meet on a
job site, although we have been on the same job sites.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
We just didn't know it at the time. Is before
we knew each other, and we you know.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
We kind of raised mountain bikes together, hung out a
bit whatever, we started a business, got married, had some kids,
and we had that business. Plumbing A track was full
mechanical by the time we sold it in twenty seventeen.
At the end of twenty seventeen, we sold it and
since then I've been helping other construction businesses in a
variety of ways, as many ways as I can. For
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the amount of experience and knowledge and lessons I have
learned over the many years, whether it be actually project related,
business related, human related, there's a lot that I really
want to be able to share just to lighten the
load for anybody else, because you know, the way I
see it is that if I had to go through
all of the things I had to go through, I
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wanted to not be wasted, Like, let me share my lessons.
So I've been doing that in many different ways, coaching, consulting, training, speaking,
so a lot of different ways there. And most recently,
my husband and I are back in the saddle and
have just recently launched our second HVAC company, doing it
right the first time, Like from the beginning, I am
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very excited.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
It's it's good and it's it's exciting.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, and definitely, you know, having all those lessons from
you know, your history and having other businesses is definitely
probably helped you this time with starting this one.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Oh absolutely, Just some of the things that I didn't
learn until seven or eight years into business, like, oh,
well that would have been helpful seven or eight years ago,
and here and here I am I have that knowledge now.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I'm like woo, yeah, yeah, so let's let's fast. Let's
backtrack a little bit. Actually, so when you opened your
first business, you know, what was the inspiration behind that?
Why did you think, you know, I'm going to start
my own business, let's do this.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah, such a good question, because I always thought that
it was my husband's idea, and I'd always say, I
can't believe you got us.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Into this, and he's like, I'm pretty sure it was yours.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
And I was clear in my head that it was
him until I'm going to say it was like in
two thousand and eighteen or nineteen, after we sold our business,
I was going through some old papers and I found
this paper that I wrote all my goals you know,
by the time I'm fifty, which I happen to be
turning fifty.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I turned fifty last year.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
All my goals were written out for by the time
I'm fifty, these are things I wanted, and one of
them was to have my own business.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I was like, oh, dang, it was my fault. So,
you know, we.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
He was a plumber, and he was really he was good.
He you know, he didn't He went to university and
got a degree in what we call jeopardy because he
has a lot of information. But when he got out
of university, like a lot of kids, they don't they
can't find a job. It was like political science and
literature and history or something.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
So with that, it's like, what are you going to
do with that?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
And so he started digging ditches and that was the
beginning of his plumbing career. So, you know, we started
this because we wanted to have the freedom. We wanted
to have flexibility, We wanted to grow something. We wanted
something that was our own. And I really liked the
idea of homeschooling my kids, and I knew that if
I had and at this time we didn't have kids,
but that was kind of a future thought. If I
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had my own business, I'd have more flexibility.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
To do that.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
So there was a lot of those reasons, and that's
kind of the reason we originally started out.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, I love that. And you know, like sometimes you
look back on things and you're like, oh, you know,
why did I have this idea? Why did I do
all this? And then when it all comes to fruition,
it's like, oh, that's why I did this. You know,
this feeling of when everything finally works out and all those.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Okay, just does it? Does it ever actually finally work out?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I think we're always working towards being better to you know,
it's just it's a constant journey, constant growth. When you've
reached that goal that you set, it's like, what's the
next one. And I don't think it's for a lack
of satisfaction. It's so much as it is a drive
to do greater and bigger things. So it's yeah, anyway, yes, definitely, definitely.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
And then you know, we were talking about some of
those challenges that you know you faced that you know
are probably not challenges now since you know what you're doing,
but you know, what were some of those challenges when
you first opened your business? You know, what did you
go through?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
You know what's funny is that it wasn't when we
first opened our business that the challenges happened because I
had I have pretty good organizational structural routine. I'm very
a type personality where I'm very decisive and solutions oriented,
and I had a corporate background in the construction industry,
and I saw how a business could run from an
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employee perspective. So I saw that they did things like
performance reviews and profit sharing. So I saw some things
that I thought were good ideas that I would want
to bring into my business. So in the early days,
when it was you know, us and a couple of employees,
it was really good. We had money in the bank,
we had work coming in, we were kept busy, you know,
it was it was really good. It was the point
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at which it was kind of probably when we hit
the million dollar mark just over that where all of
a sudden, we probably had you know, eight ish employees
at that time, So it wasn't we certainly weren't optimizing
our labor force for sure, but we probably had eight
to ten employees and all of a sudden, it's just
like you scale to a.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Point where you can no longer do everything yourself. Because
I was doing everything.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
My husband was kind of running the crews and doing
the technical side of it, I was doing everything else,
and it got to a point where I was only
invoicing the big invoices because it's like, Okay, we need
some money to cover payroll. This one's for twenty thousand,
let's just invoice that one. You know, there were so
many little ones that just never got invoice because we
just didn't have the time for it. It was things like,
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you know, not being able to reconcile our accounts. So
you know, when we actually started reconciling our accounts and
saw how many errors there actually were from month to month,
You're just like, wow, how many did we pay for
that weren't ours? Or how much should we spend that
just wasn't you know, reimburse to us. It was. It
was such an eye opener when we actually started running
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our business properly. So I think that those were the
sort of the biggest challenges were just understanding the numbers,
understanding how business works, and understanding how to delegate, Like
it comes down to being able to delegate and let
go of the reins because the type a personality that
I am, I like to have control of everything. And
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then I yeah, it's not uncommon in this industry for
us women. So it's so that was I think the
biggest learning for me was to learn how to delegate,
to let go of the reins, to trust other people
to do a job that was good enough, Like yeah,
good enough is good.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
That's when I didn't have to look at it, I
didn't have to touch it, I didn't have to do it.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Just freed me up to do other things. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, and you know, I feel like delegation really is
one of those skills that's so important, but it's it's
sometimes it's so hard, and you know, especially for women,
it's it's hard. You know, you don't want to be
perceived as you know, bossy or you know all those
other stereotypes and weird things that come into that. So definitely,
I know for me, that's what the skills that I learn.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, and I think a big part of it for
me was feeling lazy, like, well, why would I get
them to do it when I can just do it
like it was, you know, if they're doing that, what
am I going to be doing? So a lot of
it was just my own feeling of guilt like oh
maybe I should do that instead, like what am I?
And so that was a whole thing as well that
I had to work through and understand that everybody has
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their strengths and I have my strength and it can
be better applied elsewhere. So it's out of headwork for sure,
just to you know, be able to do those things.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, it's definitely all those unforeseen things that you don't
really think about. You know, you think about how we're
going to pay the bills, how we're going to pay
our employees, but you never really think of, you know,
what am I going to go through mentally during this process?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yes, So you know, after your success at that business,
you decided to transition into consulting. You know, really what
was the inspiration behind that? Because you know, those are
two very different things, going from you know, running this
team and running this business into you know, helping other
people do that same thing. You're right, it is in
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the same industry. I stuck to construction industry because this
is the industry that that's me, that's who I am,
and at the same time, it was a completely different business.
So for me, I went from the operations business building
side of our mechanical contracting company to now being the
face of the business doing the marketing, doing the sales,
doing all the things that frankly I wasn't very good
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at and I kind of hated, like I just I
was never on social media until I started my own business,
and then I was like and then I had this
love hate relationship with it, mostly hate until I realized
that I've met so many incredible people through social media
that I never would have had the opportunity to meet otherwise.
So for that, I started focusing on that and having
gratitude for social media and just thinking.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
About it differently. And really, I think when like I said,
at the beginning, where I had all of these lessons learned,
and I had a lot of hard years like those
years probably from years four to nine in our business,
maybe year five to nine in our business were hard.
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They were hell really difficult, like suffocatingly hard.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I was cranky, I was I was impatient. By this time.
I probably had at least three kids on top of
that too.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah, I had four kids in five years, so had
I had a lot of young kids while I was
running a business, and it was a lot of pressure
that I put on myself. I wasn't about to ask
for help anywhere because I was a woman in construction
and I can do it all, and it just got
the point where I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
It was hard.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It was a lot of hard lessons, and like I
said the beginning, to like if I went through those lessons,
like let me share that with somebody so that they
don't have to let me show them how it can
be done, so you can be successful, so you can
lighten your load, so you can free up your time.
Because for me, as my business became more organized and
more somewhat predictable, because nothing is ever predictable in the
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construction industry, when it became more predictable and it freed
up my time, I started to do things like go
to a yoga class at ten o'clock in the morning
because I could. And those were hard for me because
again it comes back to that guilt, like, oh, people
are sitting here at the office. And it was as
I worked through it in my own head and understood
I have my role, they have their role. And those
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are lessons that I think a lot of women because
originally I was working with mostly I was working with
just women in the beginning, because the way I saw
it was that as a woman who had a business
coach I've had since I learned about business coaches. I've
had business coach since all the time I had a business.
So when I sold my business, I did not have
a business coach. When I started my consulting and coaching,
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which was after probably close to two years of trying
to figure out what I was going to do, first
thing I did was got a business coach.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
But when we got our.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Business coach and we were in these groups, it was
me with a bunch of dudes, and it's fine addressing
the business. However, I think the piece that was missing
for me in particular because I did have four young kids,
because I did have a house to run in sports
and schools, and I did homeschool my kids, so I
was homeschool and my kids. There's a lot of other
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things that.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Your typical coaching in the construction industry doesn't address for women,
and that is the whole life outside of your business
that can't exist without it. It's part of who you are.
You need to be able to integrate your business part
and your life part in order to really function in
a healthy way.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
And I needed to be able to share that with
women so that they could one give themselves a break,
like just give themselves some grace and understand that they
don't just because they can do everything doesn't mean you
have to do everything. And so that was kind of
the start of it. It's like I should help the
people the person I was, I be the person I needed.
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Like that's ultimately what I got down to was that
person wasn't there for me. I had the dudes, but
that's not what I needed. Yeah, what I needed was
somebody who understood all of the areas of my life
and who could help me integrate them all into something
that was functional.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
And I've been talking to people, I've definitely noticed that
work life balance is one of those things that, especially
for women in construction, is you know, really hard for
us because we do want to do it all because
we can, we're so capable of doing it all that
we just you know, we take on so much and
it's you know, it's one of those things that we
found is just it's it's really hard.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
To do well.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
It's not sustainable ultimately, I mean, it's not sustainable.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
You get you lose.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I mean there's so I lost so much in those
years where I had where I was trying to figure
it out where I was trying to get sorted. There
was like I lost who I was, not just because
I was so busy being a mom and a business owner,
but because I had suffered so many hard days, like
I forgot how to laugh. That was for me. It
was an eye opener where I remember one day I
was in my living room with my kids and I
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can't remember what it was, but something my son said
made me laugh. And what I recognized in that moment
is that my body felt weird laughing.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
It was like it felt.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Foreign, and it was like that that was a light
bulb moment for me, going, oh my goodness, like how
how bad is this? Where I don't even remember what
it's like to laugh? Yeah, that was That was an
eye opener for sure.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, you know when you had those dark days, what
did you do to kind of keep yourself motivated? And
you know, almost pull yourself out of that hole?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
You can't like, there's no motivation. It is only survival,
it really is. I know so many women.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Who understand who just who do understand that? It is?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
You're existing in survival mode. You have to do it,
you have to do and just keep going. And I
think The turning point for me was when I got
a business coach who could help me understand some things.
That was a huge turning point. But even after that,
because I was still doing so much of it, like
still figuring out a lot of it just as we
and trying to implement processes and trying to It's like
teaching old dogs new tricks. Is just it was frustrating
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trying to figure out how to implement something so that
they would actually use it and all of the things.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
And the reality is I just kept going.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
And my my saving grace was the admin person that
I hired, Yeah, because she was a rock star. She
just took everything and I'd be left going, Okay, now
what do I do.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
She's like, you go take a break.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I love that You're like, okay, I guess, I guess
I will.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
We hired her in twenty fifteen. She was our second one,
and to this day, I'm still I went out for
dinner with her a couple of weeks ago, so I
still keep in touch with her. She still was my
very favorite employee, and it's because she made my.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Life so much easier.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
She allowed me to not be okay, She allowed me
to admit that it was okay that I didn't have
the answers. She just and it wasn't like she had
any She was young. She was like twenty one when
we hired her. Yeah, she was young. So it wasn't
like she had all this wisdom of years of it
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wasn't that. It was just her willingness to take on everything.
She must have seen the burden that I was under
because she just took everything. She's let me do that,
and she did it like amazingly.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And you know, those kinds of employees really help with
the delegation too, when they just you know, take it
on without even like being asked. Yes, such a gift
when you can find someone like that.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
So you know, we're talking about all these issues. We're
talking about, you know, how difficult it is for women
in construction to balance the work and life and everything.
But how do you believe that the industry can better
support this?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
You know, what can be done?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
That's a huge question.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I know, you know, I don't think it's anything that
the industry can do. I think it's ourselves. You know,
these are things that we allow happen for ourselves, and
we have to change for ourselves, because you know, no
matter how accepting or how open, or how forgiving, or
how whatever the industry can be, it always comes back
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to us.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
It always comes.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Back to our own belief in what we're worthy of,
in what we deserve in all of those things. And
if we don't think that we deserve the freedom, the flexibility,
the money, then we will never give ourselves the permission
to earn those things, whether it be the money, the freedom,
the flexibility, whatever it is that you want to get
out of your business. So I don't think it's something
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that the industry has to do per se as an industry.
I think it's something we as women have to understand.
It is our responsibility to change our experience. So it
requires boundaries, yes now, and enforcing them to Everybody know
what they are and don't feel bad for enforcing them.
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I understand that this is what you do for yourself
because you show up as a better person when you
enforce your boundaries, when.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
You let them dound.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Not only do let when you let your boundaries be
broken or let those down, the not only do you
let yourself down because you're no longer honoring yourself showing
people how to treat you, and they will continue to
do that. That is that's on us. And I think
that as soon as we take responsibility for our own performance,
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our own experience, our own all of it. When we
take responsibility for it, then we're in a position to
actually fix it for ourselves. Putting it out there on
anybody else is not the solution.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Say it louder for the people in the back. That
was incredible.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Lessons. I tell you lessons. I have always gray hair
for none.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
You know, gray hair is in style now, so I
think it looks great.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Oh I've only ever this side note, but I've only
ever dyed my hair once. And I kind of I
own my gray hair because I'm like, you know what
this is. This is a symbol of what I've gone through,
the growth I've had, the lessons I've learned, and it's
not something I want to hide. It's just like I'm
okay with it.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
It's fast forward to present day. So I know you
just open in another business, So tell me a little
bit about that. What's going on, how's it going, How's
it different from last time?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
It's different in all the ways. You know.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
When we sold our business, it was because we were
both ready up until the day we decided to sell.
Either one of us to be like, oh, we can
do this, we can keep going, you know, would be
you know, we can do this and let's just in.
One would be like, oh, I can't do it. The
other would be like, we can do this. And that
day that we decided to sell, my husband said to me,
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he said, I can't do this anymore, and I said,
let's not.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
And that was it.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
In a week later, less than a week later, we
were sold. Wow, it just took that, like both of
us ready and the same time, same thing this time around,
starting our next one, we both needed to be ready.
And I've been ready because I, you know, of all
of the lessons and wanting to do things right and
like feeling like, ah, we actually have some answers to
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start with. So I've been ready for a while. My
husband came to me, I think it's the end of
July or beginning of August, and he's like, I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I'm like, let's do it. So we did it.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
And you know, we started out by getting our you know,
business license, and you know, things like that we have
a corporation that our company, that we have a corporation
that this is just going to be part of already,
So it's not like we had to start a new
corporation or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
It's kind of something that already existed. So we just
added it to that as a DBA, and we just.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Started letting people know that we're back, and in a
very short period of time, people are like, oh right,
like let's get you know, so we The biggest difference
is when we had our first company, we did plumbing,
heating gas to start, and that heating that we did
was hydronic heating, so it was water based heating. We
didn't do any four stair any anything on the HVAC side.
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We as our business grew, we added the HVAC and
so then we did you know, four stair heating, ventilation,
and air conditioning, so we did full mechanical by the
time we sold. This time around, we're focusing strictly on
service because we did service. We did install, we did construction,
we did renovations, We did everything, I think all of
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the services between all of the plumbing, heating, gas and service, install, construction, renovation,
all the things. It was something like ten or twelve
different services that we offered it was ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Wow, way too much.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
When you can pick one thing that you're really good at,
that is where you can make money. And that's where
we never got to with that business because we did
way too much. So with this one, we are focusing
on HVAC. So the name of the company is Fire
and Ice HVAC Services. We are not doing construction and
we will do installs in service. Here where I'm located,
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the province right now has offered rebates for upgrading to
heat pumps, so we are taking advantage of that opportunity
and focusing on that.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Heat pumps right now are huge.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
In our area as far as the growth and the demand,
and we don't have near the labor force to address.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
The demand for it.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
So we're coming in to be yet another player in
the game and doing it right, like not just doing
it right as far as systems and processes, doing it
right for our people. Because even when we had our
other business, our people were always our number one asset.
They were always treated very well, they were given everything,
and so that we're going to continue with that in
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this business because that has been our number one priorities,
making sure that people have a better life because they
work for us, and so it's hiring the right people
from the beginning because we didn't always hire the right
people before. We didn't know, so there was a lot
of years of like, Okay, we have the wrong people,
but we can't very well, you know, get rid of
fifty percent of our labor force because we had work
to address, we had work to do. So it was
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being strategic in how we're going to let people go
and how we're going to hire new people. So this
time around, it's like I am not in a rush
to hire people. I'm like, I am going to hire
the right person to begin with, like that right key player,
that person I'm looking for. I will find that person
and we will build our company sort.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Of around that.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Like as far as the right person and the right dream,
I want them to be somebody who thinks big, who
has big dreams and wants to do big things, because
we're structuring our company to allow that, to give people
the opportunity to have an incredible life with our company
and meet all of their dreams and goals and things
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that they want to do in their career and in
their life. So those that's what we're building, and we're
not in a rush. That to me is the biggest
part is just like let's do it right.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, and doing it right and really taking the time
makes all the difference. And especially with the right people.
Sometimes that's so hard to find.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Oh, it can be, and I think it's harder if
you think it's harder. I think if you're really clear
on who it is and you're not in a rush,
that sets you up for your best success because a
lot of us just feel the pressure of we need people,
we need a warm body. Heck, doesn't even have to
be that warm. We just need people to perform, and
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that creates a lot of chaos.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
And if you can be uh, oh, you know.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Have some foresight to see, okay, in six months or
a year, we're gonna want to build our team by three,
then start that process.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Because of the way I say is like always be.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
In recruiting mode always, like just always be having your
eyes open for who good people are. Doesn't have to
be like a great HVAC person, Like just good people
that you can train. That is really what I'm looking for.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, because you know, all those skills, those are all learnable,
those are all trainable, but those qualities of a good worker,
that good work ethic, you know, all of that stuff
that's not really as trainable as those skills and everything.
So I think, to me, that's just the most important
thing is finding the people that you know, you vibe
with and you know, really want to take it that
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extra mile and have the same kind of goals you do.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yes, it's puer important.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
So just some fun questions, just to end it with,
what is the best piece of advice that you have
ever received?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Oh, oh, you know, probably I don't know if it's advice,
But the thing that is stuck with me for the
longest is perception is reality. And this was my boss
at the engineering firm that I worked with when I
was young in my career, and he said that to me,
and I was just.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Like, what does that even mean? What does that even mean?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
And then when I thought about it, I was like, oh,
that's interesting, and it just was like the first seed
that was planted for me to understand communication, relationships and
ultimately just having life be a little easier for yourself
when you can understand things from somebody else's perspective. So
when if I do something and I intend it one
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way and it's taken another way. That other way is
the reality, whether I like it or not.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
And that to me was.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, yeah, really, it's definitely gotten a lot worse with
you know, technology and everything. You'll be sending a text
and it'll be completely perceived a different way. A million emojis,
so people, yes, yes, awesome, Well, thank you so much
for being here today with us, Corey. If any of
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our audience wants to get in contact with you, how
best might they do that?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Well, my website is Thrive HQ dot ca. A that's
my coaching and consulting that I do. If there's any
amazing hvac texts that want to work in the Vancouver area,
you can go to our website at Fire and Ice
Hvac Services dot c A.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure, yes, Fire and Ice Hvac Services dot.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Ca and you can apply there. You can check it
out the positions that we have available. And otherwise, I'm
on all platforms, most platforms, Coraly Beatty, I'm easy to find.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I'm kind of one of one, so it's it's easy
to find me.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Awesome, And we'll put all of these links in our
descriptions so all of you can find it super easily.
But just once again really wanted to thank you for
coming out today to be on our first episode of COPOD.
This is so exciting. You are an amazing guest and
we are so grateful to have you.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Oh, thank you so much. I am honored to be
the first. Awesome.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Well everyone, tune in next time to the next episode
of Copod.
All right, hello everyone, welcome to our first episode of COPOD.
I'm your host, Caroline and I'm joined today with Corley Beatty.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
How are you doing. I'm doing well. How are you.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I'm doing good, doing good good.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
So Coraley is a prominent construction business owner, a mentor,
and an advocate for women in construction. So, Coraley, I
know a little bit about your background, but tell me
a little bit more about you.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I'm going to give you the colds Notes version because
I feel like it always gets really long. I have
been in the construction industry for almost thirty years, and
I guess that's part of why it can be long.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
But I started in the mid nineties and.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I started as a building envelope consultant in a multinational
engineering firm. I worked in both Canada and the US
doing that. I was there for ten years. In that time,
I met my husband, who happens to be a plumber
by trade. And no, we didn't actually meet on a
job site, although we have been on the same job sites.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
We just didn't know it at the time. Is before
we knew each other, and we you know.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
We kind of raised mountain bikes together, hung out a
bit whatever, we started a business, got married, had some kids,
and we had that business. Plumbing A track was full
mechanical by the time we sold it in twenty seventeen.
At the end of twenty seventeen, we sold it and
since then I've been helping other construction businesses in a
variety of ways, as many ways as I can. For
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the amount of experience and knowledge and lessons I have
learned over the many years, whether it be actually project related,
business related, human related, there's a lot that I really
want to be able to share just to lighten the
load for anybody else, because you know, the way I
see it is that if I had to go through
all of the things I had to go through, I
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wanted to not be wasted, Like, let me share my lessons.
So I've been doing that in many different ways, coaching, consulting, training, speaking,
so a lot of different ways there. And most recently,
my husband and I are back in the saddle and
have just recently launched our second HVAC company, doing it
right the first time, Like from the beginning, I am
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very excited.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
It's it's good and it's it's exciting.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, and definitely, you know, having all those lessons from
you know, your history and having other businesses is definitely
probably helped you this time with starting this one.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Oh absolutely, Just some of the things that I didn't
learn until seven or eight years into business, like, oh,
well that would have been helpful seven or eight years ago,
and here and here I am I have that knowledge now.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I'm like woo, yeah, yeah, so let's let's fast. Let's
backtrack a little bit. Actually, so when you opened your
first business, you know, what was the inspiration behind that?
Why did you think, you know, I'm going to start
my own business, let's do this.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah, such a good question, because I always thought that
it was my husband's idea, and I'd always say, I
can't believe you got us.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Into this, and he's like, I'm pretty sure it was yours.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
And I was clear in my head that it was
him until I'm going to say it was like in
two thousand and eighteen or nineteen, after we sold our business,
I was going through some old papers and I found
this paper that I wrote all my goals you know,
by the time I'm fifty, which I happen to be
turning fifty.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I turned fifty last year.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
All my goals were written out for by the time
I'm fifty, these are things I wanted, and one of
them was to have my own business.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I was like, oh, dang, it was my fault. So,
you know, we.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
He was a plumber, and he was really he was good.
He you know, he didn't He went to university and
got a degree in what we call jeopardy because he
has a lot of information. But when he got out
of university, like a lot of kids, they don't they
can't find a job. It was like political science and
literature and history or something.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
So with that, it's like, what are you going to
do with that?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
And so he started digging ditches and that was the
beginning of his plumbing career. So, you know, we started
this because we wanted to have the freedom. We wanted
to have flexibility, We wanted to grow something. We wanted
something that was our own. And I really liked the
idea of homeschooling my kids, and I knew that if
I had and at this time we didn't have kids,
but that was kind of a future thought. If I
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had my own business, I'd have more flexibility.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
To do that.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
So there was a lot of those reasons, and that's
kind of the reason we originally started out.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, I love that. And you know, like sometimes you
look back on things and you're like, oh, you know,
why did I have this idea? Why did I do
all this? And then when it all comes to fruition,
it's like, oh, that's why I did this. You know,
this feeling of when everything finally works out and all those.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Okay, just does it? Does it ever actually finally work out?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I think we're always working towards being better to you know,
it's just it's a constant journey, constant growth. When you've
reached that goal that you set, it's like, what's the
next one. And I don't think it's for a lack
of satisfaction. It's so much as it is a drive
to do greater and bigger things. So it's yeah, anyway, yes, definitely, definitely.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
And then you know, we were talking about some of
those challenges that you know you faced that you know
are probably not challenges now since you know what you're doing,
but you know, what were some of those challenges when
you first opened your business? You know, what did you
go through?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
You know what's funny is that it wasn't when we
first opened our business that the challenges happened because I
had I have pretty good organizational structural routine. I'm very
a type personality where I'm very decisive and solutions oriented,
and I had a corporate background in the construction industry,
and I saw how a business could run from an
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employee perspective. So I saw that they did things like
performance reviews and profit sharing. So I saw some things
that I thought were good ideas that I would want
to bring into my business. So in the early days,
when it was you know, us and a couple of employees,
it was really good. We had money in the bank,
we had work coming in, we were kept busy, you know,
it was it was really good. It was the point
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at which it was kind of probably when we hit
the million dollar mark just over that where all of
a sudden, we probably had you know, eight ish employees
at that time, So it wasn't we certainly weren't optimizing
our labor force for sure, but we probably had eight
to ten employees and all of a sudden, it's just
like you scale to a.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Point where you can no longer do everything yourself. Because
I was doing everything.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
My husband was kind of running the crews and doing
the technical side of it, I was doing everything else,
and it got to a point where I was only
invoicing the big invoices because it's like, Okay, we need
some money to cover payroll. This one's for twenty thousand,
let's just invoice that one. You know, there were so
many little ones that just never got invoice because we
just didn't have the time for it. It was things like,
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you know, not being able to reconcile our accounts. So
you know, when we actually started reconciling our accounts and
saw how many errors there actually were from month to month,
You're just like, wow, how many did we pay for
that weren't ours? Or how much should we spend that
just wasn't you know, reimburse to us. It was. It
was such an eye opener when we actually started running
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our business properly. So I think that those were the
sort of the biggest challenges were just understanding the numbers,
understanding how business works, and understanding how to delegate, Like
it comes down to being able to delegate and let
go of the reins because the type a personality that
I am, I like to have control of everything. And
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then I yeah, it's not uncommon in this industry for
us women. So it's so that was I think the
biggest learning for me was to learn how to delegate,
to let go of the reins, to trust other people
to do a job that was good enough, Like yeah,
good enough is good.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
That's when I didn't have to look at it, I
didn't have to touch it, I didn't have to do it.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Just freed me up to do other things. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, and you know, I feel like delegation really is
one of those skills that's so important, but it's it's
sometimes it's so hard, and you know, especially for women,
it's it's hard. You know, you don't want to be
perceived as you know, bossy or you know all those
other stereotypes and weird things that come into that. So definitely,
I know for me, that's what the skills that I learn.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, and I think a big part of it for
me was feeling lazy, like, well, why would I get
them to do it when I can just do it
like it was, you know, if they're doing that, what
am I going to be doing? So a lot of
it was just my own feeling of guilt like oh
maybe I should do that instead, like what am I?
And so that was a whole thing as well that
I had to work through and understand that everybody has
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their strengths and I have my strength and it can
be better applied elsewhere. So it's out of headwork for sure,
just to you know, be able to do those things.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, it's definitely all those unforeseen things that you don't
really think about. You know, you think about how we're
going to pay the bills, how we're going to pay
our employees, but you never really think of, you know,
what am I going to go through mentally during this process?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yes, So you know, after your success at that business,
you decided to transition into consulting. You know, really what
was the inspiration behind that? Because you know, those are
two very different things, going from you know, running this
team and running this business into you know, helping other
people do that same thing. You're right, it is in
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the same industry. I stuck to construction industry because this
is the industry that that's me, that's who I am,
and at the same time, it was a completely different business.
So for me, I went from the operations business building
side of our mechanical contracting company to now being the
face of the business doing the marketing, doing the sales,
doing all the things that frankly I wasn't very good
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at and I kind of hated, like I just I
was never on social media until I started my own business,
and then I was like and then I had this
love hate relationship with it, mostly hate until I realized
that I've met so many incredible people through social media
that I never would have had the opportunity to meet otherwise.
So for that, I started focusing on that and having
gratitude for social media and just thinking.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
About it differently. And really, I think when like I said,
at the beginning, where I had all of these lessons learned,
and I had a lot of hard years like those
years probably from years four to nine in our business,
maybe year five to nine in our business were hard.
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They were hell really difficult, like suffocatingly hard.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I was cranky, I was I was impatient. By this time.
I probably had at least three kids on top of
that too.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah, I had four kids in five years, so had
I had a lot of young kids while I was
running a business, and it was a lot of pressure
that I put on myself. I wasn't about to ask
for help anywhere because I was a woman in construction
and I can do it all, and it just got
the point where I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
It was hard.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It was a lot of hard lessons, and like I
said the beginning, to like if I went through those lessons,
like let me share that with somebody so that they
don't have to let me show them how it can
be done, so you can be successful, so you can
lighten your load, so you can free up your time.
Because for me, as my business became more organized and
more somewhat predictable, because nothing is ever predictable in the
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construction industry, when it became more predictable and it freed
up my time, I started to do things like go
to a yoga class at ten o'clock in the morning
because I could. And those were hard for me because
again it comes back to that guilt, like, oh, people
are sitting here at the office. And it was as
I worked through it in my own head and understood
I have my role, they have their role. And those
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are lessons that I think a lot of women because
originally I was working with mostly I was working with
just women in the beginning, because the way I saw
it was that as a woman who had a business
coach I've had since I learned about business coaches. I've
had business coach since all the time I had a business.
So when I sold my business, I did not have
a business coach. When I started my consulting and coaching,
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which was after probably close to two years of trying
to figure out what I was going to do, first
thing I did was got a business coach.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
But when we got our.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Business coach and we were in these groups, it was
me with a bunch of dudes, and it's fine addressing
the business. However, I think the piece that was missing
for me in particular because I did have four young kids,
because I did have a house to run in sports
and schools, and I did homeschool my kids, so I
was homeschool and my kids. There's a lot of other
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things that.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Your typical coaching in the construction industry doesn't address for women,
and that is the whole life outside of your business
that can't exist without it. It's part of who you are.
You need to be able to integrate your business part
and your life part in order to really function in
a healthy way.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
And I needed to be able to share that with
women so that they could one give themselves a break,
like just give themselves some grace and understand that they
don't just because they can do everything doesn't mean you
have to do everything. And so that was kind of
the start of it. It's like I should help the
people the person I was, I be the person I needed.
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Like that's ultimately what I got down to was that
person wasn't there for me. I had the dudes, but
that's not what I needed. Yeah, what I needed was
somebody who understood all of the areas of my life
and who could help me integrate them all into something
that was functional.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
And I've been talking to people, I've definitely noticed that
work life balance is one of those things that, especially
for women in construction, is you know, really hard for
us because we do want to do it all because
we can, we're so capable of doing it all that
we just you know, we take on so much and
it's you know, it's one of those things that we
found is just it's it's really hard.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
To do well.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
It's not sustainable ultimately, I mean, it's not sustainable.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
You get you lose.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I mean there's so I lost so much in those
years where I had where I was trying to figure
it out where I was trying to get sorted. There
was like I lost who I was, not just because
I was so busy being a mom and a business owner,
but because I had suffered so many hard days, like
I forgot how to laugh. That was for me. It
was an eye opener where I remember one day I
was in my living room with my kids and I
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can't remember what it was, but something my son said
made me laugh. And what I recognized in that moment
is that my body felt weird laughing.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
It was like it felt.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Foreign, and it was like that that was a light
bulb moment for me, going, oh my goodness, like how
how bad is this? Where I don't even remember what
it's like to laugh? Yeah, that was That was an
eye opener for sure.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, you know when you had those dark days, what
did you do to kind of keep yourself motivated? And
you know, almost pull yourself out of that hole?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
You can't like, there's no motivation. It is only survival,
it really is. I know so many women.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Who understand who just who do understand that? It is?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
You're existing in survival mode. You have to do it,
you have to do and just keep going. And I
think The turning point for me was when I got
a business coach who could help me understand some things.
That was a huge turning point. But even after that,
because I was still doing so much of it, like
still figuring out a lot of it just as we
and trying to implement processes and trying to It's like
teaching old dogs new tricks. Is just it was frustrating
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trying to figure out how to implement something so that
they would actually use it and all of the things.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
And the reality is I just kept going.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
And my my saving grace was the admin person that
I hired, Yeah, because she was a rock star. She
just took everything and I'd be left going, Okay, now
what do I do.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
She's like, you go take a break.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I love that You're like, okay, I guess, I guess
I will.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
We hired her in twenty fifteen. She was our second one,
and to this day, I'm still I went out for
dinner with her a couple of weeks ago, so I
still keep in touch with her. She still was my
very favorite employee, and it's because she made my.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Life so much easier.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
She allowed me to not be okay, She allowed me
to admit that it was okay that I didn't have
the answers. She just and it wasn't like she had
any She was young. She was like twenty one when
we hired her. Yeah, she was young. So it wasn't
like she had all this wisdom of years of it
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wasn't that. It was just her willingness to take on everything.
She must have seen the burden that I was under
because she just took everything. She's let me do that,
and she did it like amazingly.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And you know, those kinds of employees really help with
the delegation too, when they just you know, take it
on without even like being asked. Yes, such a gift
when you can find someone like that.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
So you know, we're talking about all these issues. We're
talking about, you know, how difficult it is for women
in construction to balance the work and life and everything.
But how do you believe that the industry can better
support this?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
You know, what can be done?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
That's a huge question.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I know, you know, I don't think it's anything that
the industry can do. I think it's ourselves. You know,
these are things that we allow happen for ourselves, and
we have to change for ourselves, because you know, no
matter how accepting or how open, or how forgiving, or
how whatever the industry can be, it always comes back
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to us.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
It always comes.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Back to our own belief in what we're worthy of,
in what we deserve in all of those things. And
if we don't think that we deserve the freedom, the flexibility,
the money, then we will never give ourselves the permission
to earn those things, whether it be the money, the freedom,
the flexibility, whatever it is that you want to get
out of your business. So I don't think it's something
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that the industry has to do per se as an industry.
I think it's something we as women have to understand.
It is our responsibility to change our experience. So it
requires boundaries, yes now, and enforcing them to Everybody know
what they are and don't feel bad for enforcing them.
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I understand that this is what you do for yourself
because you show up as a better person when you
enforce your boundaries, when.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
You let them dound.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Not only do let when you let your boundaries be
broken or let those down, the not only do you
let yourself down because you're no longer honoring yourself showing
people how to treat you, and they will continue to
do that. That is that's on us. And I think
that as soon as we take responsibility for our own performance,
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our own experience, our own all of it. When we
take responsibility for it, then we're in a position to
actually fix it for ourselves. Putting it out there on
anybody else is not the solution.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Say it louder for the people in the back. That
was incredible.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Lessons. I tell you lessons. I have always gray hair
for none.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
You know, gray hair is in style now, so I
think it looks great.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Oh I've only ever this side note, but I've only
ever dyed my hair once. And I kind of I
own my gray hair because I'm like, you know what
this is. This is a symbol of what I've gone through,
the growth I've had, the lessons I've learned, and it's
not something I want to hide. It's just like I'm
okay with it.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
It's fast forward to present day. So I know you
just open in another business, So tell me a little
bit about that. What's going on, how's it going, How's
it different from last time?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
It's different in all the ways. You know.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
When we sold our business, it was because we were
both ready up until the day we decided to sell.
Either one of us to be like, oh, we can
do this, we can keep going, you know, would be
you know, we can do this and let's just in.
One would be like, oh, I can't do it. The
other would be like, we can do this. And that
day that we decided to sell, my husband said to me,
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he said, I can't do this anymore, and I said,
let's not.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
And that was it.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
In a week later, less than a week later, we
were sold. Wow, it just took that, like both of
us ready and the same time, same thing this time around,
starting our next one, we both needed to be ready.
And I've been ready because I, you know, of all
of the lessons and wanting to do things right and
like feeling like, ah, we actually have some answers to
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start with. So I've been ready for a while. My
husband came to me, I think it's the end of
July or beginning of August, and he's like, I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I'm like, let's do it. So we did it.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
And you know, we started out by getting our you know,
business license, and you know, things like that we have
a corporation that our company, that we have a corporation
that this is just going to be part of already,
So it's not like we had to start a new
corporation or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
It's kind of something that already existed. So we just
added it to that as a DBA, and we just.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Started letting people know that we're back, and in a
very short period of time, people are like, oh right,
like let's get you know, so we The biggest difference
is when we had our first company, we did plumbing,
heating gas to start, and that heating that we did
was hydronic heating, so it was water based heating. We
didn't do any four stair any anything on the HVAC side.
(21:52):
We as our business grew, we added the HVAC and
so then we did you know, four stair heating, ventilation,
and air conditioning, so we did full mechanical by the
time we sold. This time around, we're focusing strictly on
service because we did service. We did install, we did construction,
we did renovations, We did everything, I think all of
(22:14):
the services between all of the plumbing, heating, gas and service, install, construction, renovation,
all the things. It was something like ten or twelve
different services that we offered it was ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Wow, way too much.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
When you can pick one thing that you're really good at,
that is where you can make money. And that's where
we never got to with that business because we did
way too much. So with this one, we are focusing
on HVAC. So the name of the company is Fire
and Ice HVAC Services. We are not doing construction and
we will do installs in service. Here where I'm located,
(22:50):
the province right now has offered rebates for upgrading to
heat pumps, so we are taking advantage of that opportunity
and focusing on that.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Heat pumps right now are huge.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
In our area as far as the growth and the demand,
and we don't have near the labor force to address.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
The demand for it.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
So we're coming in to be yet another player in
the game and doing it right, like not just doing
it right as far as systems and processes, doing it
right for our people. Because even when we had our
other business, our people were always our number one asset.
They were always treated very well, they were given everything,
and so that we're going to continue with that in
(23:33):
this business because that has been our number one priorities,
making sure that people have a better life because they
work for us, and so it's hiring the right people
from the beginning because we didn't always hire the right
people before. We didn't know, so there was a lot
of years of like, Okay, we have the wrong people,
but we can't very well, you know, get rid of
fifty percent of our labor force because we had work
to address, we had work to do. So it was
(23:55):
being strategic in how we're going to let people go
and how we're going to hire new people. So this
time around, it's like I am not in a rush
to hire people. I'm like, I am going to hire
the right person to begin with, like that right key player,
that person I'm looking for. I will find that person
and we will build our company sort.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Of around that.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Like as far as the right person and the right dream,
I want them to be somebody who thinks big, who
has big dreams and wants to do big things, because
we're structuring our company to allow that, to give people
the opportunity to have an incredible life with our company
and meet all of their dreams and goals and things
(24:37):
that they want to do in their career and in
their life. So those that's what we're building, and we're
not in a rush. That to me is the biggest
part is just like let's do it right.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, and doing it right and really taking the time
makes all the difference. And especially with the right people.
Sometimes that's so hard to find.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Oh, it can be, and I think it's harder if
you think it's harder. I think if you're really clear
on who it is and you're not in a rush,
that sets you up for your best success because a
lot of us just feel the pressure of we need people,
we need a warm body. Heck, doesn't even have to
be that warm. We just need people to perform, and
(25:15):
that creates a lot of chaos.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
And if you can be uh, oh, you know.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Have some foresight to see, okay, in six months or
a year, we're gonna want to build our team by three,
then start that process.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Because of the way I say is like always be.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
In recruiting mode always, like just always be having your
eyes open for who good people are. Doesn't have to
be like a great HVAC person, Like just good people
that you can train. That is really what I'm looking for.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, because you know, all those skills, those are all learnable,
those are all trainable, but those qualities of a good worker,
that good work ethic, you know, all of that stuff
that's not really as trainable as those skills and everything.
So I think, to me, that's just the most important
thing is finding the people that you know, you vibe
with and you know, really want to take it that
(26:02):
extra mile and have the same kind of goals you do.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yes, it's puer important.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
So just some fun questions, just to end it with,
what is the best piece of advice that you have
ever received?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Oh, oh, you know, probably I don't know if it's advice,
But the thing that is stuck with me for the
longest is perception is reality. And this was my boss
at the engineering firm that I worked with when I
was young in my career, and he said that to me,
and I was just.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Like, what does that even mean? What does that even mean?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
And then when I thought about it, I was like, oh,
that's interesting, and it just was like the first seed
that was planted for me to understand communication, relationships and
ultimately just having life be a little easier for yourself
when you can understand things from somebody else's perspective. So
when if I do something and I intend it one
(27:00):
way and it's taken another way. That other way is
the reality, whether I like it or not.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
And that to me was.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, yeah, really, it's definitely gotten a lot worse with
you know, technology and everything. You'll be sending a text
and it'll be completely perceived a different way. A million emojis,
so people, yes, yes, awesome, Well, thank you so much
for being here today with us, Corey. If any of
(27:33):
our audience wants to get in contact with you, how
best might they do that?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Well, my website is Thrive HQ dot ca. A that's
my coaching and consulting that I do. If there's any
amazing hvac texts that want to work in the Vancouver area,
you can go to our website at Fire and Ice
Hvac Services dot c A.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure, yes, Fire and Ice Hvac Services dot.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Ca and you can apply there. You can check it
out the positions that we have available. And otherwise, I'm
on all platforms, most platforms, Coraly Beatty, I'm easy to find.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I'm kind of one of one, so it's it's easy
to find me.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Awesome, And we'll put all of these links in our
descriptions so all of you can find it super easily.
But just once again really wanted to thank you for
coming out today to be on our first episode of COPOD.
This is so exciting. You are an amazing guest and
we are so grateful to have you.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Oh, thank you so much. I am honored to be
the first. Awesome.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Well everyone, tune in next time to the next episode
of Copod.
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