Charlie Strickland and Preston Chat Up Crime, Safety, Guns, and Laws

Timely topics are covered in our visit with Charlie Strickland of the Talon Training Group.

Episode Transcript

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Five minutes after the hour. Itis the third and final hour of this
radio program for today, The MorningShow with Preston Scott Show forty nine thirty
nine. Over there is Grant,alongside is Jared and here we are in
Studio one B with Charlie Strickland,he of the Talent Training Group and Talent

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out Doors. Hello, friend,how are you? I'm doing fantastic this
morning. Feeling a little guilty aboutyour carbon footprint? Are you been?
I watched the video I was tellingyou on a break. I was watched
the video this guy in the UKthat was addressing the left and he was
talking about you want to change thisand change So I'm just gonna assume your

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position is correct and that we needto eliminate all CO two that the UK
produces. But keep in mind weonly produce one point zero three percent of
all global emissions, so we're notgoing to have any effect on global emissions
of CO two. Global warming isnot going to have be impacted. But
you don't care. You want usto do it anyway. You want us
to destroy our wall life just basedon blah blah blah. And you know

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so, I the way my brainworks, I got I got to dickon
and looking at what's going on andwonder if the trends globally. You know,
of course, the latest information severalyears old now, but you know,
China's producing a third, almost athird of all global emissions as CO

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two, and the United States isat fifteen percent. But we're the leading
developed country on the planet. ButChina's catching up. Yep, he surpassing
us. They're gonna do and theydon't care. The guy running China,
you know, and the guy madea really good point. I wish I
had linked to the video. Hemade a really good point. As the
leader of China, his family wasdestroyed by the very party he rules,

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and he's hanging on the power.And the only whether he hangs on the
power is to to thumb his noseat the rest of the world do all
the things that he's doing. He'sdoing exactly what he needs to do for
China. You know, we hatehim because he's destroying our way of life
and the rest of the and puttingtheir style it. But he's doing what
China needs him to do. He'syou know, just he's torturing people and

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doing terrible, terrible things by ourstandards, but by their standards, he's
doing a great job and he's gonnastay right there. And you know,
all we can do is label Isee De Santa's got a big boost.
The liberal media has now said thathe's worse than Donald Trump. He's sinister,
So maybe, oh, what's goingwrong with the world? Everything is

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blowing up? I mean, howfar Remember how long ago was it that
toxic masculinity was the thing? Butyou don't hear it, right, They
changed the word and I don't knowwhat it is now, but it's whatever,
it's it's it's anything that it wastoxic masculinity. I remember getting fighting

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mad at somebody, some college professorfrom FSU in a medical school at some
event. He was just, youknow, and he looks like us.
He's you know, white dude,just but he's obviously far left. And
the university hires him to teach upcomingdoctors and that his big thing was toxic
masculinity and how bad it was.Well that's what helped makes I mean,

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my wife would kick me out ofthe house if I wasn't, you know,
if I wasn't an alpha male,So you'd kick me out. So
you didn't want some week. Shedidn't want some week, dude, you
know she wants somebody who stands upand as a man, you know,
you know, a manly minute,you kind of thing. You know,
how do you how do you youknow you don't have to be a jerk,
and you don't. I mean,you can't be abuse if you can't

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do all those things. They're abad trends that some men exhibit. You
know those you know those are criminalsand yeah, and and narcissists and things.
There's all kinds of reasons you canbe bad, but that's not you
know what I'm talking about. Youknow what I'm talking about. But now
they find other ways to attack us. So I always find a way to
attack us. Don't have a gunbecause you might hurt somebody. You're dog

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going right, I might excuse me, man, Please have some more water.
The Pella greeno yes, sparkling.This breeze is very nice. Good
morning, and welcome to the MorningShow with Preston Scott. Do what I
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course you can listen live on iR Radio anytime you want. But three
hundred and something episodes. Now,I was going to ask you. You
and I started doing these segments,and then j D would come in,

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and the three of us have talkedfor a long time. And when we
first started these personal defense segments,you got a lot of phone calls from
churches and some businesses asking about protocolsand what should we do in our situation
and circumstance. I'm curious, areyou getting as many calls or are you
getting different calls? Now I'm notgetting as many calls. A COVID had

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a lot to do with the reductionand phone calls for training consulting assessment.
It went down. I was tellingyou on the break. I mean,
I've got a group out of Atlanta, that nonprofit organization a statewide and we'll
be doing some virtual training because theydon't have to bring all other people to
one spot to do it. Andyou know, it's more personal safety than

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active shooter but because there people arein the field all the time. So
but it's still how to react.I mean. And the church stuff,
we were doing church consultations, churchvisits, you know regularly, JD or
I one was out every week doingdoing one somewhere, you know. And
I guess you remember the big eventwe did. We had hundreds of people

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at the Auto Museum. Yeah,we had a room full of people packed
to the brim with people. Thatwasn't an empty seat in the place.
And it's just sort of and Ithink a lot of it has to do
with we're getting more people bringing theirgroups to the range and there's more people
coming to training and doing things likethat. And I think maybe you know,
there's only so many houses of worshipin an area that most of those

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places have established some sort of ateam and they have some sort of protocol
now and that was our goal wasto get the information out. So I'm
not and there are some groups goingaround doing training that they're getting paid for
and they're putting out a product.They're not us or anybody affiliated with us.
But there's more of it. Umyou know, we like to think

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we filled the need when it wasneeded. But now and we're still here,
we still do. We'll still doany house of I say, house
of worship over church because there areyou know, different there's all kinds of
groups that may you know, wedon't have a church, we have a
temple or whatever. We we willstill pro bono. We will still come

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talk to you um as as youknow, look at your place and see
what we suggest. And that it'sstill out there. But as a law
enforcement professional, as a security professional, and as someone that spends a lot
of time paying attention to what's goingon in the news cycle, it's changing.
It's definitely changing. How I mean, I've got stories here of you

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know, You've got you've got securityguards being assaulted by shoplifters and then they're
getting fired. You've got employees gettingfired for trying to intervene and stop shoplifting.
How is it changing? How youadvise people or is it as far
as I advise organizations or advise individuals, business owners and people that work in
a business. Well, I meanas far as employees. You know,

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you protect yourself. Look at yourcorporate policies. Listen as like you were
talking about before I came in theLulu anyway, Lululemon, Lululemon or Ukie
exactly. Yeah, So anyway,so their employees and I read the article
while I was sitting in the parkinglineup, hold it up. I looked

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at it, and yeah, theybasically their their corporate policies don't intervene.
They just scan a QR code andgo, hey, we had a theft,
and leave it alone and let themcome in, let them do.
Say that's what's wrong with the worldtoday is that we're just saying, y'all,
do what you want, take whatyou want, We're not to do
anything about it, which just leadsto more and more and more, and
ultimately it leads to violence. Andso if you're an employee and that's your

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store policy, there's not a pieceof property that your boss owns that's worth
losing your job or going to jailor getting hurt over and let them take
it. That's the that's the business. As a company owner, I think
you're stupid if that's your policy.I think you should have security cameras.
You should have if you've got atheft problem, hire some security you know,

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whose job is to intervene. There'sa lot of things that you can
do, um but don't you know, don't don't have your employee stand around
like a like a dummy during somethinglike that, and certainly don't fire them
for trying to make difference. Twentyone minutes after the hour of the Morning
Show with Preston Scott, Charlie Stricklandof the Talent Training Group and again I
get time with Charlie and j Deach month, a couple of times a

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month. This is your time ifyou want it. Eight five zero two
zero five WFLA IRA, thanks verymuch for calling into the program. What's
your question? What's your topic?What do you want to kick around here?
Well? I got to the firstone is all day concel you'll carry
in Florida. I'm going to stopbeing able to carry openly if you're fishing.

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No, that's not true. Itdidn't change any of that, None
of that came. No, youcan still that part of the law that
allows you to open carry hunting,fishing, camping, or going to and
from those events or two or froma gun range is still still on the
books. Everything's the same, exceptthat you just don't have to apply for
a permit or get training in orderto carry without a permit anymore. I

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got a license and I'm gonna keeprenewing. I mean Georgia, So it's
different. Okay. Oh, Iam a proud owner of an AAR fifteen.
Good for you, very recent nowI'm trying to overcome some of them

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and hails about them. Meal spec. If it's Meal Spec, that means
anything are platform will work with it. Most every AAR fifteen is in fact
mel spec because you can you cantake any part off of one R fifteen
and put it on another. That'swhat mel spec means that it meets the

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military specifications, So you can takesome parts off of a military rifle and
put it on a civilian advice versa, as long as it's not the parts
that make it fully automatic. Right. Well, I own a Many fourteen
also, okay, I think oldertimon bar and I'm meaning fourteen full the
trigger fire released trigger fire. Ohwell, I got to looking at these

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binary triggers. That's what they do. Correct. Um, the uh,
you kind of got me on thatone. I'll be honest with you.
There there are several different trigger designsout They are the ones that fire wants.
They're in order for it to belegal, it has to be semi

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automatic. You pull the trigger eachoperation of the trigger. You can argue
that as you pull it that's oneoperation. As you release it, that's
another operation. Um. Some ofthat stuff is not legal in Florida,
in Georgia. These are mainly federallaws. And I really, I'm gonna
be honest with you. Stumped meon that one just a little bit because

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I don't get into triggers. I'mnot a trigger guy. I like just
a traditional semi auto trigger. Neverhave seen much value in doing all that
stuff. So, Hira, thanksvery much. I appreciate your phone call.
Thanks for listening to the program.How much are guns changing? They

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look different, but they're not changingmuch. I mean, they're our manufacturers
basically making guns that look cooler.Yeah, I mean, so what they're
doing is they're taking the same basicoperating system and they're shaping everything different.
It's ergonomically different, but the basicfunctioning of all this stuff is the same.

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I mean, the most innovative thingthat came out in my recollection was
when Glock started building Striker fired systemsback in the late eighties, you know,
or whenever I first saw them inthe late eighties when I get in
the law enforcement. But pretty mucheverything is. You know, you had
your nineteen eleven style stuff, andnow you've got Striker fired system You've got

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double acts, double single acts.It's like the six where the first round
is a double action the second one, you know, where you can cock
the hammer or fire. I meanit's the same stuff. But as you
every time they'll come out with somethingand this triggers a little different, or
this safeties just got a safety hereversus there. You know, Smith and
Whiston mp eass came out with that. We got a grip safety on it.
Yeah, unlike in nineteen eleven,which was designing early nineteen hundreds.

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Um, you know this this thinghas a hammer. This is hammer lists.
Okay, well, but it's allthe same stuff. It's who can
make the coolest looking polymer? Imean, everybody's you know, a lot
of people, a lot of companieshave copied a glock to the point where
you can almost change out parts onsome of them. And you know,
like the gentleman will saying, youknow, mill speck stuff AAR fifteens or

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AAR fifteens, and they've been aR fifteens. Now some parts don't interchange
with other parts, but most ofthem you can take an up are off
of one, stick it on another. You know, this is this whole
pistol issue. You know, takethe take the pistol. There's a pistol.
Brace off said it in another room, and all of a sudden,

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it's not a pistol. It's it'snot a short bare rifle per the ATF's
designation anymore. Now it's a pistolagain. It's just you know, by
the way, that's on hold wellin the fifth district. But I would
I would still not be snapping iton air and put posting pictures on Facebook
and mean go into the rain shootingit. Wait, it's just give it

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a little bit longer. You know. The whole point with that is intent.
You know, do you have theintention you get into construction anyway,
there's a lot of discussion. We'llpick up there and go some more if
you have a question eight five zerotwo zero five to BFL A couple more
segments. Charlie Strickland of the TalentTraining Group on the Morning Show with Preston's
Got thirty six minutes after the hourthe Morning Show, Charlie Strickland of the

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Talent Training Group with me A couplemore segments. You wanted to follow up.
Ira had a couple of lengthy topicshe kind of brought up, but
you wanted to clarify the real quick. I hate to say stuff unless I
know something, and you mentioned abinary trigger. There's so many different triggers
out there, and honestly, whatpeople call one thing confused. I get

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confused of what somebody calls it.The binary trigger. Who was referencing is
when you pull the trigger at onetime, it goes bang. When you
let go of the trigger, itgoes bang. Which seems to be legal
federally, and it looks to belegal in Georgia. I don't think it's
legal in Florida based on them bumpstock prohibition, the law that came out
which was separate than the federal prohibition. Because you know there was some case

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laws, you know, district coreopinions on bump stocks nationally, same way
there is with pistol embraces and allthat. But Florida very specifically has a
law that bans that type of stuffand any device that increases the rate of
fire to cause a firem to beable to be capable of firing faster than
a regular semi automatic. So,based on my interpretation of seven ninety point

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two two two, you would beillegal. It would be illegal for you
to have a binary trigger that allowsyou to fire twice with one full sweep
operation of a trigger. So anyway, I would keep that many fourteen in
Georgia. The pistol brace issue wementioned, I think it's the fifth circuit.

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It covers Louisiana, Texas, andmaybe Mississippi, but it doesn't cover
the nation. That said, it'slikely gonna still end up before the US
Supreme Court. Well legal some ofthe legal opinions that are out on that
means that not only is it justin that district for now, it is
also only affects one manufacturer and thenthe members of the organization that file the

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suit, not just anybody, whichhow do you how do you enforce that?
So, but I think and Jennyand I've talked about this, we
think that that's just the domino that'sgoing to start the rest of the dominoes
to fall around the country until itgets it going to go to Supreme Court
at some point in time. Iwould, uh, I would keep my

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pistol braces separate from my firearms.I mean, what's the what's the chance
of somebody getting a warrant to cometo your house to look and see what
you have in the first place?Um, and then it gets in a
lot of people talking about constructive possessionwill Constructive possession typically means that there's an
illegal item in your presence, noton you. It's there. If you
have methamphetamines in your car and you'rethe only one driving the car, I

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mean, we catch, we catchyou, as law enforcement catches you.
You know, well, I don'tI don't have it on my person,
yes, but you have it inthe vehicle with you. Well, that
implies that that item is illegal.Okay. Well, constructive possession doesn't mean
that you have a that you havea pistol and a brace, and because

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they're near each other, that's notthat's not constructive possession. That could show
intent to put those two things together, but that's not constructive possession. That's
that's basically you know you you hadthe intent to do this. Um.
But then it gets really muddy becauseif you had some PVC pipe and some
gunpowder and some fuse and some youknow, well, you might be making

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an iad Well, I don't know, depends on where they were, if
the cannon fuse is in the garageand the PVC pipes out there. But
but you're you're in the well,you get your your your your gunpowder is
in your reloading room with the restof your stuff. I mean, how
do you prove that? So there'sI wouldn't be overly concerned about any of

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that right now. I certainly wouldn'tbe throwing anything into trash, and I
wouldn't be unless I was going tobe going to the range with these items.
I'd just leave it alone, becauseyou know, you want to you
want to pin and weld your barrelto make it sixteen inches so that you
can that's fine. Uh, Honestly, I think it's I think it's a
little soon until the decisions are backwith the courts. And all. But

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you know, if you do whatyou feel comfortable with. Um, my
stuff is just disassembled and spread outwhere nobody can say I plan on taking
stuff to the range until until saidtime. Yeah, fital segmentarily strickling of
the talent training group, and wewere just talking over kicking around some random
things, and I was thinking aboutthe fact, Charlie that what are your

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expectations come July first? Are youexpecting a lot of people to buy guns
because they can now do so withouthaving to obtain a CCW. I part
of me says, I hope so, and part of me says I hope
not. I would think that peoplewho wanted to carry would already be going

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and getting a training and applying forpermits and all. But I also know
that that is a barrier to entryand always has been. Anytime you have
to make an effort to do thatstuff, it slows things down. You
know, just a lot of howmany people would don't start a business because
they don't understand the process of filingsto get an LLC or to get insurance
and do all that stuff. Imean, it's just a completeity process and

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there's risk involved. And now thedoors open for people to just do what
they can do legally because they hadthe an alienable right to carry keeping,
you know, firearm for self defense. And now, so yes, I
think you're going to see an increase. We're already seeing an increase because people
don't understand the law hadn't gone intoeffect and want for another month. But

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you know, it is what itis. People. Oh, they passed
the law, they just assumed thatit's on the books now and it's not.
So you'll be careful for another thirtysomething days. Just be careful.
So yeah, I think you'll seemore people coming out. We'll see we'll
see a lot more first time shooters. But just because there's no barrier to
entry now, you still have togo through the background check, you still

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have to go through the process.You still can't buy a firearm if you're
a convicted feller and you have adomestic balance injunction against you, if you
blah blah blah blah blah, canI insert something. Yeah, just because
you can, doesn't mean you should. But if you do, get training,
get training and think about how you'regoing to store the firearm when you
get it home. I got kidswho visits the house. Yeah, I

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mean who's in your house? Andif Florida law does require that you keep
a firearm secured if a child.What it says is, if if a
minor obtains a firearm and takes itto a public place and exhibits it or
hurts themselves or someone else or whatever, you can and will be charged with
the misdemeanor crime because you didn't secureit properly. You have to secure it

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in a way that a reasonable personwould believe that that child wouldn't be able
to get it. Now, somebodybreaks in your house and gets it,
that's different. That's that doesn't apply. So think about it. You know
there are some inexpensive guns safe now, a personal defense gun in your home.
You don't want to lock that thingup where you can't get to it
in the middle of the night,but you certainly want to put it somewhere
that your children can't get to it. So there's a lot a lot of

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options out there on how you cando that, from biometric stuff that I
don't trust, to push button thingsthat you have to remember the combination while
you're a commentary with each of theseitems. But honestly, if you if
you wake up so zoned out thatyou can't figure out how to get to
your gun. You probably don't needto be shooting the threat in your house
because you might not actually be athreat. I mean, I don't know
how much ambium you might have takenor whatever. But the fact is is,

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you know, you know you wantto bed drunk, you know,
wake up in the middle of thenight and shoot your roommate of your spouse
because you just wann't know. Imean, so there's a lot of responsibility
that goes with firearms and go intothe range. We'll see a lot of
first time shooters out there, andwe're going to devote time to that in
the coming weeks because there there isa reality more and more people are going

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to be getting firearms. And thething that I love about your range,
Charlie, and look, there arepublic ranges out there, folks. I've
been to them. I know you'vebeen to them. I would never ever
ever suggest a first time shooter goingto a polk range. I just wouldn't
know. It's scary. And thething is is, and if you're if
you haven't shot a firearm before gettingone and watching a YouTube video and going

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out and shooting it by yourself probablynot the way you want to go,
particularly if you're concerned with loud noisesand over pressure. There's things if you
get the right kind of training willwalk you or whoever is teaching it will
walk you through those things and makeit less of a concern. I mean,
I do a lot of like upat the Dothan Facility. I'm doing
a lot of training up there now. First time shooters. Got a lady,

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bless her heart, got a fewyears on her and she's coming every
Thursday until she feels comfortable. Youknow, I have a standing. It's
the right way to do it.Yeah. And the guns she bought what
and the guns she needed, youknow, it's in our counter for sale
used right now. And we gother in the ones she needed. And
she's she's going to she wants tobe able to protect herself, and bless

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her heart, she's getting better atit and she's gonna be able to.
Yeah, I mean, and Iapplaud that. And that's what people should
do, and that's what we're herefor. Find somebody to walk you through.
I see a lot of stuff onsocial media where people are taking to
friends and arrange that's awesome as longas you know what you're talking about.
We're going to talk more about thatin the coming weeks with j D and
Charlie and our personal defense segments.As always, thanks to the time.

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I appreciate you coming in. Yes, Sir Charlie Strickland of the Talent Training
Group, Remember Talent Outdoors weekends andremember on iHeartRadio