The Media Is Ignoring The Border Invasion, But We Aren't

Jesus Rodriguez, two plus decades a U.S. Boarder Patrol Agent, now retired, offers the latest on border enforcement (or lack thereof).

Episode Transcript

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And here we are to the thirdhour The Morning Show with Preston Scott boldly
moving forward. Wednesday, April twentysix I was known as the birthday of
my daughter Courtney. Happy Birthday Shownumber forty nine sixteen Day eight twenty six

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of America held hostage on the finalthe fourth Wednesday, I should say,
because there is occasionally a fifth Wednesday, and that's when we do our Q
and A with the talent guys.But on the fourth Wednesday of each month.
A Zeus Rodriguez is kind enough toget up very early and join us
from his home in Arizona. Heis a retired member of the United States

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Border Patrol, where he served asan agent for better than two decades,
and he joined just again this morning. How are you, sir, Good
morning, sir. Find yourself well, I'm doing great. I'm probably a
lot more awake than you are atthis point, but just a little early
off here. It's only five o'clock. Hey, you sent me a note

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and you said that you had beeninformed that there had been on that given
day. The day before April thirteenthwas the day before a thousand apprehensions alone
in one specific area. What's goingon right now at the border, because
it doesn't seem like the media iscovering it very much. No, they're

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not going to cover anymore, Ithink, because I mean, it's they're
moving on, it's it's it's stillactive out there. And so that was
a thousand apprehensions in one in oneentire group that they got on that particular
day out there in West Texas.So I mean, it's it's not going
to slow down, it's only gonnait's only gonna get worse because if you

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you know, we're in May already, so the heats like in this part
of the country is already starting tokick up, and I'm sure along the
southwest border's gonna think it's going tostart to rise. So not only are
going to deal with people that arecoming across the legal league going to start
dealing with people that are needed medicalattention because of dehydration. What is your
personal opinion and then what is theopinion of your former colleagues on why this

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is no longer of interest to themedia. My opinion is in testing is
if they moved on to other othernews and they don't want to put a
light on what's happening out there andthen I think I mentioned it to you
before. I mean, you know, and I tell people you can,
you can deal with the traffic that'scoming in and the people that are as

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you know, as we would callthem quitters at the border, but I'd
be very very concerned of what you'renot catching and what you're not able to
apprehend that are coming around the flanks. Who's coming in there, and what
are they bringing? And so that'smy concern is and the media, you
know, doesn't look at that,and some of the some of the retirees

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that I speak to us and evensome of the president agents you know that
that are still out there, youknow, the brunts that the guys are
still out there, are just doingthe job there. I mean, they're
there's nothing the most more they cando. They're just doing the job as
they're supposed to get done. Andand if they're grumbling, they're going you
know, to themselves. But atthe end of the day, they you

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know, they know, they havea task to take care of. That's
what they're focusing them. Do theyfeel like they can do that task though,
because it seems, you know,I was talking earlier today about the
fact that you know, the Presidentof the United States, Joe Biden,
is out there saying regarding the economythat you know, we're what we're doing
is working. And I'm of theopinion that everything they're doing is very intentional.

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And so there's this idea that atthe border, this is a very
intentional set of decisions being made tonot enforce border policy or law. They
don't. I think they're just they'rethey're focused on what they have to do
and they can't get caught up inthe reason and what the what the policymakers

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and in DC are are deciding andwhat they're doing. I mean, at
the end of the day, Imean, they have their marching orders.
Like it or not, you gotto you gotta do it, and so
you know, you really they realizethat they can apprehend all these all these
large groups of people from all overthe world basically, I mean from what
I understand, it's all from allover the world. They're coming in and
so and in places that you know, you would never have ever seen people

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from these countries come in there.Now they are. So they're just doing
their jobs as it's supposed to doand process them as such. I mean,
if they you know, if theyget released, they get released,
and there's really not much more youcan do. You can only control what
you can in front of you.You can't you know that policy that they
make and decisions they make are aboveyour pay grade. Two decades of doing

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more drive radio differently doing it hisway like old Blue Eyes, except he
has a little more hair. TheMorning Show with Preston Scott talking about our
southern border primarily, but you canalso throw away in northern border issues with

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former US Border Patrol agent retired andZus Rodriguez, what about the northern border.
Do guys that work the south haveany connection or hear anything about what's
going on in the north. I'msure if they have classmates or people that
they work with in the past,I'm sure they hear here are the traffic

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that's happening there. But it's thesame thing, I mean, not in
the numbers that you see in thesouthern border, Preston, but you know
the numbers of apprehensions have an increasedin those in those areas, and so
you don't have then when prior tomy retirement, you didn't have the technology
that they do in the southern border. So now I'm sure there's a lot

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more technology and they use to dronesas well out there, so um,
you know there is more more outthere. So they're starting to see,
you know, more more traffic outthere as well. What is your opinion
of Alejandro Mayorka's head of Homeland Security. You might not need to say anything

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more. I don't know, maybea chuckle covers it. It's a it's
a family show, fust and soI'm going to keep my my that that
portion clean. But you know it, they're all they're all in lock and
step in what they're doing. Andlike you just mentioned earlier, it's an
intentional, intentional decisions than on what'sdoing out there. And so you still
have like I mentioned prior, theystill have those gaps in in the in

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the border wall. So guess whatthey're using. I mean, they can
easily have closed those gaps, youknow when the administration came into came into
power, and they've left open andso you know, this is what's happening.
You're getting all these people, likeI mentioned, and all these people
from all over the world, placesthat you've ever seen in before. Now
they're now they're coming in. Andso because they know, you know where

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it's passing to come on in andyou know they're more likely to going to
cut you loose and you're on yourway. I've always I always try to
give people context when I ask certainquestions, and as best you can can
you put a pie chart on thenumbers that you know, we talk about
gotaways. What percentage of the gotawaysmake up the total pie of illegal immigrants?

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Well, even prior to retirement personthey would say that we would probably
were only apprehending about I've always don'tto say it was but half of that,
if that, if of all that. But I think the gotaways are
you know, it's one of thostunknown numbers of people that you don't know

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really how many you're they are gettingaway from you because at the end of
the day, as you're following thefootprints in the in the sand or in
the ground, and you get towhere what we would call a loadout spot
where they would get into a vehicle, and you know they went north bomb
from there. He only kind ofguestimated by the number of shoeprints that were

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left in the in the in thesoil. But keep in mind now it's
no longer that easy, because theseguys are being outfited. Was believe it
or not. Carpet, so yourstandard everyday carpet that you have in your
house. They put them on theirshoes to hide those footprints. So you
really, I mean, they're kindof guestimated. It's it's it's a crap

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to you how many things are gettingaway from you. It's it's almost as
if they're raking behind themselves by wearingcarpet under their shoes. Now, it's
extremely hard, and I mean youreally have to be a good sign cutter
to pick up you know, uh, carpet sign on the on the ground.
And if and mind you, ifthey're walking across sand, if they
you get into what we would calla hardpan area or area where it was

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the ground was hard, it's extremelyhard to cut them. And so you
have to go up ahead and andyou know, CB can reacquire the foot
sign. Again, it's it's verydifficult to find them like that. And
you know, if you have airsupport, that helps out, If you
have drones or you have other agentsahead of you were helping out. Again
that helps out. But keep inmind that you know you're still having to

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deal with all these large groups outthere, so they're tying up ages in
the field, WFLA on your phonewith the iHeart radio app and on hundreds
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station. Hey, sus Sean Riguezhas spent better than two decades or did

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spend better than two decades serving theUnited States on the southern border as a
US border troll agent and is kindof our guest expert now on the program
and has been for the last coupleof years. ZEUS. We talk often
about gotaways. We talk about thosethat just come to the I guess the
border crossing areas and surrender themselves.Is it fair to assume that anybody that's

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not going to the actual checkpoints areattempting to become a got away that want
to enter this country and not beprocessed, not be caught, not be
granted asylum, but just get intothe country illegally. Oh yeah, because
you you might have criminal history herein the United States. The entire deports

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my multiple reports under their belt,so they may you know, they're they're
trying to get away and avoid apprehensivebecause they get caught. Again, there's
that possibility that they have an activewarrant that still they can you know,
they can go back to the jurisdictionthat they came from or that they're going
to get. They'll get caught andthen spend more time in the facility,
in a potential facility, and thenget deported again. So yeah, there's

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there, there's goals people are avoidingat all costs. Or if they get
caught, they'll be in a certaincity perhaps and they'll be turned right loose
so and and no one's cooperating withuh you know, uh customs and border
enforcement, and so they just getto wander around and commit crimes. Um.
Well, yeah, it's like thoseones that get caught right and they

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don't and the jurisdiction doesn't work withice. Yeah, I mean those that's
the possible, that's the strong possibilitiesas well. You've seen that happen before.
We were talking about the many thingsthat that hamstring those who serve on
our border trying to help keep ournation secure. Um, I liken them
to have in your own security guardaround your your home and your fence around

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your home that if they're busy doingother things, they can't really do their
job and and how they are burdenedby the sheer numbers. Here explain a
little bit about kind of the howthat all works. So if you,
if you, if you are dealingwith with the group, a large group

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that just quits on the border,you have to go down there and then
you have to you know, dothe search of all of them, their
bags themselves. You have to startfeel processing them out there. Okay,
give me give me some context here. Let's let's say we've got three hundred
people, and how many of youguys are going are having to go down

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there. It depends on the shiftpresent. It can be anywhere from ten
agents to even five to six ejs. And so you're separating the groups by
by gender, by male, female, and the families of the children.
You separate those those individuals and youstart off, um and with the heat
coming on, you're starting off withthe with the families, the children and

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they and the females. Okay,let me, let me let me throw
away hypothetical at you. Because Democratsjust a few days ago in the House
and the Senate introduced a bill thatwould require you all on the border.
And I say you and the youknow what, I mean that would require
border patrol to set aside another categoryand give them vulnerable person's status, and

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that would be people that identify asLGBTQ. Plus how much harder is that
going to make this process? Thatwould make it harder because if if there's
policy in there that requires you totransport them separately to you know, to
house them separately, so that addsmore to it. Now for you know,

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you would you could you know yournatural's questions, you just process them
ass such and give them the detensionstilty. And now unless someone in my
career trust and I only have maybeone two cases that I can remember when
someone said that they were, youknow, homosexual or or anything else like
that, by and large, theywere all brought in the same in the

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same group. Now they come upwith a policy like that that they may
require the agent to transport him separatelyand to put them in a cell separately
from everybody else. So that justadds to it. And so you're now
dealing three, four or five,maybe up to ten agents are having to
process hundreds of people. So whilethis is going on, who's minding the

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shop, who's out catching the gutaways, Who's who's enforcing the other parts of
the border. If you're lucky,you have horspitral out there. If you're
lucky, you might have bipatroy TVs. But again, it depends on each
individual station and depends on how bigthe group is, how many agents is
they gonna need to take to getthose bodies from let's say, from the

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desert, out the detention or toa station or you know, a processing
facility where you can start the processingof them. And so it just varies
on what station you're at. Andand again you know it's the heat's gonna
plays a huge role. You youknow, you got to get him in
and get him modest quick as youcan, because you go from from somebody

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who may be okay, but witha heat coming on that you need to
get him out before something something serioushappens. Now you've got another issue in
your hand. Now you've got medicalissues to deal with it out there.
So you know, it's it's abig it's a huge headache. We got
a lot to talk about a monthfrom now, consious stuff we didn't get
to. I want to talk aboutstates sovereignty, what's to what states should

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be could be? Do they doand what's happened in your state in Arizona
since Katie Hobbs took office as governor. Jeseus. The time goes by fast.
Thanks for it, and I appreciateyou joining us. Okay, take
care, thank you, thank you, sir, and as always, thank
you for serving our country. Thanksto all who served to protect our borders.

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