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Speaker 1 (00:01):
More, of course the doctor Drone Parsian. It's Thursday, October
twenty third the NC. I'm still traveling. It will be
all week. I want to cover a couple of stories. Importantly,
I have an article if an American Thinker I want
to cover. And then there are some critical things going
on with the economy. Were crashing through new barriers of
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debt at an alarming rate and that doesn't spell well
for the dollar. Now, first on the article I published
today on American Thinker, which I think is a very
important article. I've been working on this one for some time.
I'm saying that Trump can force an endgame in the
war between Kukraine and Russia. Okay, so Trump backed out
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of a meeting in Budapest after Putin insisted that he
was not going to give up part of this region
of the dun boss And which is in south. It's
in the kind of an industrial region the two provinces
on the east of Ukraine closest to Russia, the too
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Russian speaking provinces, and it's been heavily fought over for
centuries because its a good industrial area, and it's a
good area for manufacturing. It's a good area for living.
It's a good area in general for you know, favorable
characteristics that the people who live there, which means that
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literally for centuries, Russia and Ukraine have fought over who
controls the dun Boss. Okay, so Trump is saying that
he doesn't control it all today, but he's not going
to have a ceasefire until he covered until he gets
a major portion almost all of the dun Boss, including
some of these key cities like that he are in
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the dun Boss. And so the what happened over the
past week was that we had General Catalog on September
twenty ninth was saying that Trumpet authorized NATO members to
deploy non NATO Ukraine offensive missiles that the United States
provided deep into Russia. Now Kellogg has been a warmonger
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on the war from the very beginning. General Kellog kind
of views this as the nineteen thirty eight test in
Munich whether Europe was going to contain Hitler, and they
appeased Hitler and did no good. So they're saying that
Russia is the aggressor and Putin's going to try to
take over all of Europe if we don't stop him here,
which I think is a foolish argument. Okay. So on
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October thirteenth, Medvedad said, if we give Tomahawk missiles which
Lensky wants, that could hit heavily into Russia, that there's
that risk nuclear war. We're back to when we under
Biden had those attack of missiles going in long range
into Russia. We were very close to nuclear war at
that time. And so this President Trump's telephone call when
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Putin said he was not going to surrender control of
don Tesk Okay, which is part of this don Boss, well,
Trump listened to it and said he would have a meeting.
But then when when Secretary of State Rubio met with
Russian Foreign Minister Lavov, Putin was still insisting that he
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wanted to get all of the dawn Teesk province and
really must have most of the Donbass region. I will
only you know, with only three quarters of which Russia
now controls Okay. So what my analysis was was that
Trump wants a ceasefire, wants to stop the war right away,
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but clearly Putin wants to have this area under his control.
And Putin is not making claims that he wants to
be an aggressor in general, and won't go to Kiev,
and he's had limited demands. Okay, now, if we don't
listen to this, if we go ahead and supply the
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Tomahawk missiles, thinking that, oh well, Putin's going to come
to the table because now we can strike deep into
Russia and he's scared. Forget it. Putin, I think, has
come to the conclusion that he can win the war
in Ukraine, and he may even have the conclusion that
he could win the war against the United States because
of his band's weaponry. He's threatened this several times, and
I take it seriously. So I think here the advantage
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and the argument that I conclude with is that Trump
has got to understand that there's no way we're going
to take this territory back from Putin without a nuclear war.
So therefore the idea of stopping Putin is only going
to happen through negotiation. Right now, Putin has the ability
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to go to Kiev if he wants to. May take time,
but unless you know, NATO and the United States are
willing to up the weaponry and escalate the war to
the brink up of nuclear war, Putin's not going to
be stopped. And so I'm saying that the in a
world where regional conflicts can rapidly lead to a nuclear tragedy,
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Trump is right to assume the role of peacemaker. So
by extending the Abraham Accords to the Middle East, Trump
envisions that a piece for prosperity offers the best solution
to dampening regional conflicts by creating strong middle classes throughout
the region. And Trump needs to advance similar thinking between
Russia and Ukraine over dumbos wherever to resolve a war
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that Trump correctly claims should never have been started in
the first place. The kind of thing I would say is,
you know what Witkoff is saying, is surrender this territory
to Putin because it is going to take it anyway,
and it long term is these are Russian speaking people well,
because Lensky hates this, because Lensky wants the war to continue,
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for the money, continuing the graft to continue. But Trump
could force the endgame by simply not supplying Tomahawk missiles,
do Zelenski, not supplying advanced missiles, not advanced weaponry, cutting
off funding to NATO. When the money stops, the war stops,
when the weapons start. When the Weabons stopped the war stops,
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and that's really the only endgame here that makes any
sense at all in Ukraine and Russia and the Russia War.
Chris want to come on and say to give us
your thoughts on this.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Well, as you know, the EU has been trying to
keep this war going for a long time. We had
warmongers here in the States. Interestingly enough, you also say
that General Killogger has been trying to push this. He,
of course, as you know, has been a trusted advisor
of the Trump administration for a little while, and during
the Biden administration, his thoughts and opinions were very close
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to the future Trump campaign because he was in the
America First think tank, which was well with former Trump
officials and those who were looking to restore Trump to
the presidency in twenty twenty four. So he does what
anybody says, he's Trump's ear.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Well White Houp, yes he does, but he's not being
but he's getting sidelined again. He wasn't involved in negotiating
this summit, and clearly his advice on tomahawks was rejected.
So I think Trump is seeing that. My argument is
that the only way to resolve this war is to
make a deal with Boutin, and that means conceding territory.
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I point out the warship ever been fought. That a
quotation from this really long and good book, which is
The Provoked How Washington started the New Cold War, the
Russia and the Catastrophe in Ukraine. It's by I recommend
it strongly by Scott Horton, the director of the Libertarian Institute,
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which is he writes, the current fear campaign against Russia
and the American media is no different from the demonization
of any of the US government's enemies here in a
round the world virtually the same. The entire narrative is fake.
But the older generations used to have hating Russia, and
the young have been sold a line about Russian aggression
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through Europe for years now. There's also the harm done
by the Russia Gate hoax that claimed dastardly Putent influenced
Donald Trump upon our land, which is seemingly forever damaged
the brains of American Democrats and made peaceful coexistence for
them unthinkable.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Gray Well, as we're looking at here, it seems like
there has to be some form of contention somewhere in
the world, I guess to keep certain factions of the
US deep state relevant. Again, that's from the outside looking in,
and well, this is pretty much their only hope since
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Donald Trump has or President Trump has been working on
solving other problems around the world, and not through forceful means.
Of course, the threat of force is always a good thing.
We still still need to keep an eye on the
situation in Gaza at this point. But right now the
Russia Ukraine war, there are a lot of major leaders,
major factions around the world that I hate to say,
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depend on this war going at least a little bit longer.
And Putin, I mean, he's in a position where he
doesn't care.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Right well, NATO attacked again yesterday on Tuesday, Monday and Tuesday,
these Russian oil refineries in NATO countries right, Hungary and
Romania suddenly and simultaneously mysterious explosions and catastrophic fires. Okay,
and then the Wall Street Journal about the US approval
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of NATO being allowed to use long range missiles deep
into Russia's fake Trump said, the US has nothing to
do with those missiles wherever they may come from. Over there,
Ukraine does with them. So I think there's great sensitivity
right now with Trump understanding that the solution has to
be reached here, and regardless of what NATO thinks, they're
not getting the territory back. They can all group around
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Zelensky like they do. They don't have the money, they
don't have the troops, and it wouldn't work short of
nuclear war. Okay. So we also have an announcement now
today that we've gone right through some the interest payments
of our debt, which now drops tops thirty eight trillion
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dollars is something like one point four trillion dollars on
interest payments. We just check that number again. But it
is phenomenal how deeply we've let this national debt go,
and how thoroughly it means that we're in debting. You know,
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the future here is pretty well bank cropped, with the
interest payments to hit fourteen trillion over the next ten years.
And we just crossed the thirty seven trillion mark in
August now where it crossed the thirty eight trillion dollars
in national debt. Okay, So the price of gold is
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back up again today. Gold is trading here at four
and thirty two dollars an ounce in silver at forty
nine dollars and fifty one cents an ounce. Again, I'm
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Swiss America. Okay, Finally, I want to point out that
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you know these we're now NATO is really thinking about
putting new sanctions in President Trump on Russian oil to
punish Russia. I think these are the wrong strategies. I
think it's time to really try to come to terms
with Russia. This will just push the oil price higher
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for everyone, and right now people are going to suffer
this winter. Some of the oil prices around the country
are going to be shocking. I was going to be
an abbreviated show today. I'm a very very busyday. In
the end, God always wins. God is going to win
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