Why Millions Want a New California | Can Article IV Save America? - Corsi Nation

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Your angel of course, the Drome course.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
And we have a special guest witness today, Paul Preston.
Paul a good friend, Paul, Welcome to the show. Paul
has been active broadcasting doing podcasts and broadcasting for about
twenty two years and his Agenda twenty one Radio is
quite popular. Agenda there is right there Agenda twenty one Radio.

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The website is a twenty one r dot com. The
letter a the number twenty one radio dot com and
Paul's were also very active in the New California state,
which we want to talk about. This is a big
movement that I think is beginning to happen with the

(00:49):
various states thinking about breaking up conservative and liberal the
liberals go their own crazy way and trying to not
cope with them any longer. But Paul and I have
become friends over the years. Paul's always a great pleasure
to talk with you.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Again.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
I'm looking forward to the discussion.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Well, Jerome, thanks for having me on your show. This
really is an honor to be on your show.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Well, let's just start out. We've got Mondami elected now
in New York. We've got a Muslim communist, most prestigious
city in the country now running as mayor. It's going
to be mayor, So what are your thoughts on that.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Well, it's a kind of indicative of the side of
the times. And you know, we had to remind everybody
that for a four year period we were openly being
invaded by military aged men, to the tune of, depending
upon what your numbers are, between twenty and one hundred
million people came across the border. We have a lot

(01:51):
of miners that came across the border. You know, it's
been a disaster when Donald Trump was not re elected,
which he was re elected, but the election was stolen
from him in twenty twenty. And these are the things
I think we can start to see. We'll get more
and more of this sort of thing going on. The
thing that concerns me is that he's espousing Sharia law.

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And there's a couple of different things that have happened
here because he became a naturalized citizen and he swore
an oath thought that he would protect and defend the
Constitution against all enemies, for domestic and it seems to
me that he's violating his oath of office if he's
going to try and shove Sharia law down everybody's throats.
But typically for a Muslim takeover of a community or

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a city or a nation, this is kind of the
stuff that goes along with it. Occupy the leadership positions,
and then sooner or later there's going to replace all
the bureaucrats and everybody else, and there's the replacement of
personnel goes on, and then ultimately they dominate the scene
and declare Sharia law everywhere. So this is part of

(03:03):
the invasion, replacement, invasion process that Muslims have really refined
over the hundreds of hundreds of years. And now here
it is in the United States, and they're not a
large population, but there's sure art. If you're in Deerborn,
or if you're now in New York City, your lives

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are going to be turned upside down.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
We have mosques and shouting out daily prayer in New
York City, I think pretty soon four or five times
maybe a day, which will be pretty huge, shocking actually,
But you know, Paul, it's also I think the younger generations,
the kids are you know, the percentage of women under

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what twenty four who voted for Mandamu, it's like eighty
percent of the women voted for Mandami. They have another
character like Obama that they bring out, this hip hop leftist,
you know, guru, you know, charismatic leader, promises everything and
delivers nothing.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Right, right, that's normally the case. And again it's our
fault that he's delivering nothing, but.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
They but they look good. You gotta admit that.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, Yeah, Obama comes on hip hops and he's you know,
hope and change, and he's got meat posters and he's
got the Obama girls singing how she's.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
In love with Obama?

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Remember that. Yeah. I was watching some of the clips
of his little takeover and some of those I call
him teeny boppers. But you know, these are the young kids,
and there's nothing in the offing for those young kids
other than of course being dominated by by their own culture.

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And of course assimilation is just out of the question.
One of the great aspects of America is assimilation. Clearly,
this invasion of a lot of millions of people over
the last four years is going to have some real
detrimental impact upon the assimilation process. It's always been so
successful for the United States as a country.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Right, But again, as you point out, they don't the
Muslims don't assimilate. They don't fit in. They don't want
to become citizens of the country that they're invading. They
want to take it over.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Right, and that is a problem. And of course we
have a problem with so many others that have basically
said the same thing that have come across the border.
It's not just Islamis, it's also the cartels. And out
here in California we have a real huge influence of
the cartels and all the things that go along with them.
And in California, I hate to say it, but I'll

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say it again. I've been saying it all along for
a long time, but California, outside of China, is the
single largest traffic here of children for sex. And that's
that's but nobody here says anything about it, because you know,
we have legislators, active legislators in our legislature that are pedophiles.

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They admit to it, and they're passing pedophilic laws that
enable them to have sex at younger and younger ages
with with boys in particular. This is I mean, I'm
not making this up. This is this is actually happening
and has been happening for a long time. They're just
out now more than anything else, and it seems that leadership,

(06:38):
obviously Gavin Newsom, the leadership all across the board is
saying nothing about it. And I'm talking about the county
supervisors to the city council members that the police are
really kind of out to hung out to dry, because
that's another problem is that they get defunded and pretty
soon they get defunded and they get or change in

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terms of the number of people that are they're starting
to employ, they get rid of the police officers. So
we get into a lawless situation, and you know, we
find ourselves like right now, constitutionally, California does not comply
with its compact with the United States, and it is
sort of a rogue state at this point.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Governments, in fact, you're setting up this new California state
to be a secession movement, to draw a new California
state out of California, isn't that.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Correct, Well, it's not a secession movement, but California has
a secession movement. That's this important thing to understand. We
are a separatist movement following the Constitution, which provides an
Article four, section three as state split, and it's known
as the state split clause, and that clause in the Constitution,

(07:52):
the California Constitution. No, this is US Constitution.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
US Constitution Article.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Four, section three. It's the same one that's given all
of US fifty states. It's the same we're using basically
the same idea of Article four, which is the state split.
But then there's specifics about what if you form a
state from a pre existing state, and that's Article four,
section three. And we believe now as we have gone

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through this process now and deeply involved with it for
the last eight years, that the founding fathers knew that
at some point in time one of the states that
they were setting up with the colonies might go rogue
and want to become more like a democracy than a republic.

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So I believe they put Article four, section three into
the Constitution which allowed the people, if they were under
a tyrant governor, to be able to form their own
new state as prescribed under the Declaration of Independence. And
so when you start working with the Declaration of Independence
and the verbiage and the words in the messaging, with

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the deck, with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights,
you start to emerge as completely different than just if
you're on the surface looking at it and reading it
and having no understanding what the words mean or applications
as to what we've been doing. We've been applying the
words now to our process, and we're very far along
in the process. We have a constitution. We've we've developed

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a constitution over thirteen constitutional conventions, and in fact, this
is our constitution right here. And tomorrow we actually have
our fourth statewide election. And this state wide election we
set up right after our constitutional convention, the thirteenth one

(09:45):
in Visalia, California on July first, and we've already had
three elections and they all affirm us to be a
new state. That's not a lot of large numbers like
you'd find in a general election, but we do have
a vast sampling from around all fifty eight counties and
they all say the same thing. It's pretty amazing to see.

(10:07):
But tomorrow, which is of course Veterans Day, we're going
to have a pretty good turnout, we suspect, and that's
going to be the fourth and final one. We hope,
we know. But the idea of us being able to
have an election similar to what President Trump talks about
an election one day, paper ballot, hand count and we

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get the results that night, and there's only one change
of custody. You know, when you walk into the polling center,
they're going to give you a ballot and you're going
to mark on that ballot and you're going to put
it in the clear box. That's it. No more mail
in ballots. And that's that's what we've done. It works
very well, It counts really quick, and we let the

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people watch this count. In fact, we videotape every counting
so that we have a record of it. But and
you know, we have any cheating going on, finanity stuff, bailboxes,
and there's no algorithms, no algorithms, there's no algorithm. I
guess you can set up a hand count algorithm or

(11:12):
something like that. I don't know. But can't cheat.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
You can't cheat unless you create the system so you
can cheat.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
That's right, and which is of course that's what they've
done all along. Now, so this is we're disruptive if
we know that we're following the constitution, and of course,
if you know anything about our opposition, they loathe the
constitution and the things in it. And so we're ready
to go to become a state. It's just a matter
of timing. At this point, I think the financial collapse

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that's happening around the state of California is happening very quickly,
and I think that we're going to be standing up
as a new state here pretty soon, sooner than the
people realize.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
The Article four section three requires that the existing legislature
will approve it, doesn't it. I mean you have to
get the approval of the existing legislature.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, yes, yes, and no. And this is where you
start looking at the constitution. There's no you know, drome.
There's no playbook or instruction manual for forming a new state.
I hate to break it to people, but there isn't
any you know. This is not like fly out a
seven forty seven, where you have an instruction man But
I'd never think that I would ask you to be

(12:21):
a pilot for a seven forty seven, you know. But
that's some tides the way we feel. But so you
have to kind of, you know, be intuitive, and you
have to understand what the process and the history and
the protocols. But Article four, section three is specifically designed
for a very low threshold vote. All it doesn't need
a bill, It just needs a resolution, a resolution of

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each one of the houses, and you take the resolution
in it, and you can have a simple floor vote
right there when they open up, turn on the keys
and start opening the day for legislation, and that's when
they pass their resolutions, and a simple majority vote proves
the resolution. And once it's approved in the Assembly and
improved in the Senate, then the Clerk of the Assembly

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calls the Clerk of the House and says, we do
have a petition for statehood. Now that's the normal process,
and if everything was normal and we had a normal
balance of Republicans versus Democrats, that might in fact work.
But the problem is we are a super majority one

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party system in California. And in our Assembly, we have
eighty members in the Assembly, seventeen are Democrats. We have
forty members in the Senate and nine are niner Republicans,
seventeen or the whole seventeen are Republican and nine a Republican.
And then of course, if you take a look at

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the fifty two seats in the House of Representatives that
come out of California, there are only nine that are Republicans.
So super majority exists, and that's one of a communist party.
We're starting to get that definition of a communist party going.
Plus when you start to see the taxation extortion and
how they pass bills, and then you've had a succession

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succession of Democratic governors such as Jerry Brown. What could
possibly go around with eight years of Jerry Brown? Right
right now we have Gavin Newsom and everything's all the
executive positions have always been Democrats for the last twenty years.
So we have determined, especially after the COVID and especially

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after all the other high jinks that have been going
on the taxation and running businesses out of California, we
have determined that California is literally a communist state, communist
Nazi state, and it's getting worse and that's not getting better.
And you know, you've watched the Gavin Newsom's epic stories

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going on all the things he's done with the fires
and everything else. And you know, we have such a
huge problem out here with the nngos. You know, we
talk about Donald Trump and the tariffs, and a lot
of people don't understand that out here in California, the
most nngos in the nation exist non governmental organizations five

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oh one c fours. They exist in California and The
problem is is that this is where most of the billions,
if not upwards of a trillion dollars of M A U,
S a I, d AID and everything else has been
going to these nonprofits by way of their counties, the
county governance systems. And I was kind of chuckling the

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other night, I said, what Donald Trump really needs to
do if he wants to fund the SNAP programs is
claw back the money that was given to those NGOs.
There's a there's a cool almost trillion dollars out of California.
He can he can do that, and that would solve
the budget problem.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Right, go long way, go a long way.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
And these people are doing nothing with the money other
than while we think that they're fundling most of that
money off to China. And we do know that under
Newsom's reign of terror, Julie Sue, who ultimately became the
Labor Secretary for Joe Biden, she happened to have been

(16:16):
in charge with the state welfare system EDD. We call
it an Employment Development Department, And in the COVID hit,
she just turned off all the computers that would screen
out people that would not be a candidate for welfare,
and so as a result, money just kept on the
state made an ask of that money pool and the

(16:39):
federal government said yes, well, nearly upwards of over eight
hundred billion dollars, and of course of two and a
half years was laundered through the edd and Julie sue
after a couple of years of that, and everybody hammered her,
including us, She gets the all to Joe Biden to

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be the Labor Secretary to be the controller of those
funds to begin with, and she covers all of her
trails and tracks, and that's really why she was there.
She never passed confirmation, but he would just keep appointing her,
and nobody had bothered her. She was just was appointed

(17:21):
without any legal authority and without any constitutional authority anyway,
and everybody was comfortable with that except us. We were
screaming about it. It was improper and constitutional, yet it
was being allowed. So that the effect that we see
as a whole as we were looking at it, said,
this is a hostile situation that we have going on

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in California, and they're not going to prove anything we
do because it's communists. And we the people determined that
the other part of it was we found out California's
constitution is not a real constitution. It falled, does not
follow the original constitution of eighteen fifty. It has a
corporate constitution that had adopted seventy nine, So they have

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no legal legs to stand on, So to actually petition
them to go on into to become a state would
be impossible. But the other part of it, too is
that as the founding we have found with the founding fathers,
like I said, they knew that there would be the

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high probability that one of the states that would form
in the United States would slip into a democracy. So
they had to throw the people a lifeline. And I
think that lifeline is Article four, Section three, and we're
of course exercising that because in Article four, Section four
is the requirements of being a state. That's really important

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to understand. And those requirements are the same requirements that
the United States has by itself for all of its people,
and that is the guarantee clause. And in the guarantee
clause it says very clearly that you have to be
won provide a republican form of government, and number two,
you have to be able to keep the population free
from invasion in number three free from domestic violence. Well,

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we said, guess what this state of California is not
doing that We're being invaded where sanctuary state, we don't
have a republican form of government, and crime is through
the roof, because why the state is actually passing laws
that are benefiting the criminals and not good order. So
it was an easy decision for us to follow the

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next step, which was, Okay, how do we do this
that if we're not going to go to the Congress,
to the California legislature because all these people are contributing
to the crime, then what we did is we looked
at history and we saw that in eighteen sixty one,
the state of West Virginia's form from Virginia under the

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almost identical situation that there was a hostile situation that
the Virginians who wanted to join the Confederacy had against
the West Virginians. The West Virginians ultimately decided, after numbers
of killings, murders, and the tax and raid on their
farms and ranches in the west side by the Eastern Virginians,

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that they would be better off forming a new state,
and they'd do it by what the processes of reorganizing
a West Virginia government. See when the opportunity arose when
the Confederacy and they held some Confederate conventions and enrichment.
They held one and the government of Virginia at that

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time chose to join the Confederacy. So they absented themselves
from the seats of government, and so there was no
government operating in the state of in the state of Virginia.
So Pierpont and others went to Congress, said, we can't
work with these people because they're not even in government anymore.
What do we do? And so the Congress said, well,

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you still have to satisfy Article for Section three of
the Constitution. You have to get the approval of the legislature.
He said, we don't have a legislature. So he goes
back to Wheeling, West Virginia, with the bad news is
that we have to do that. But then he says,
wait a minute, time out. All of us in West
Virginia were still Virginians. Everybody's a Virginia, So why don't

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we form our own government because there's no government there
at all. And so that's what they did. Peerpont formed
a by we the people which is the first three
words in the constitution, we the people, and they formed
a government. He became the governor, that self appointed governor
pretty much. Actually, I think he ran an election in
the House there he became the governor, and then he

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got a lieutenant governor. He got an Assembly together and Senate,
and the West Virginians then took their resolutions to the
government Reorganized Virginia, and the Virginia Reorganized Government approved them,
proved both the Senate and the Assembly, and they went
on to Congress and they presented it to Congress, and

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Congress is kind of like, well, it's kind of hanky. Well,
he said, it doesn't matter how we do it. We
did it right, and they agreed. They agreed it was
a wee that we had. The government was absent from Virginia.
They couldn't not only did they not want to work
with them, but they couldn't because they left. And so

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that's how that process started, and that's how we started.
We're doing the same thing. We've we've already had three
conventions with our reorganized government, and we already took the
petitions two years ago to them, and so we've been
pursuing hot and heavy people to act in Congress, and
now even President Trump is some people have offered to

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have President Trump carry the legislation through, which is really
unusual because there's only when one other time that's happened
where the president has come forward and carried legislation to
create a new state, and that time was in eighteen
was in eighteen thirty, and that was the state of California.

(23:15):
Really yeah, so it's the state of California. It took
I'll tell you, it took me a couple of years
to think about that and figure that out, like, oh,
if we asked the president, it's already been done once,
you know. And so they asked us. After some great frustration,
we were we had worked out this is in twenty

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twenty three a paper We did all the paperwork for
the Congress to join. There's a process. You want to
take your paperwork to the Speaker of the House and
have you a couple of year representatives escort you down
there and all that stuff. There's a kind of hooplow thing.
And so we took our paperwork and we had it

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delivered to Kevin McCarthy's office. Well a week later he
was out the submissions paperwork, you know, okay, And so
then we pulled back and going what's going on here,
you know, and let it all settle. Then they got
Kevin Johnson, and so we had an elaborate plan for him,

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and as it turned out, he got in trouble too.
And so we're sitting here and going, oh my god,
we got all this paperwork done, what are we going
to do? And so finally, in talking to people from
the presidents, they said, President, if you would like, when
he becomes president, he'll carry that through for you. I said, well,
that's really nice, that's really nice.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Did you submit it to President Trump?

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Not yet. We're doing the elections and we're getting our
constitutional wrapped up and that'll be the next step in
the next couple of weeks to move forward with that.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
What will how much of the of California will be
in the new.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
State about ninety percent. The populations are there's very easily
divided by density, and the rural communities versus the urban
is what it is. It's it's straight out of the
book of Reynolds versus Sims. And when they took away
the rights of senators represent counties and divided it up

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by districts, and so ultimately what happened with that is
that all the urbanized areas got all the resources and
rural areas got nothing. So we're kind of reversing that trend.
And if you take a look at California's population, then
when we did this in twenty eighteen and nineteen to
create the map, there was about forty million people here

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and we went through the whole hooplaw. We we had maps,
We went over to one of our people's houses, and
we just dominated the whole beautiful home. We just dominated
it with maps, and we're drawing lines. I mean, you
can imagine people say, oh, getting the me what about
this district over here? Well they got this democratic, we

(26:04):
don't want that democrat. And I didn't like see I
didn't like the idea that I mean that we were
singling out democrats and so we were drawing lines. I
just didn't like the idea. I didn't think that was
on balance what we should be doing if we're doing
real republicanism. And so finally, after about two or three

(26:24):
weeks of frustration and drawing lines all over the big maps,
I just said to the group, I said, well, where
do all the people live. Let's look at populations. I'm
a biologist and a geneticist, so populations mean something to me.
And so they said, well, if you take a look
at the population, there's forty million people, and you've got

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Sacramento urban, San Francisco Urban, and La Urban. That's about
twenty million people. So I said, well, where do the
rest of the people live all throughout California? So that
turns out to be about ninety percent out of the
land mass that includes San Diego, that includes includes Orange County.
We'd look at those two is more suburban than urban.

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La is very dense, and so parts of San Francisco's
you know, that whole area. But it's it makes for
an island situation in which there's islands. Three parts of
California are islands, and they are and we use the
rationale that they can do it in Hawaii with all

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the islands, they can certainly do it for California. And
you know, Jerome, we have not been In all the
years we've had people ask, I can tell you that
probably the total number of people who have object objected
to that one or two. It's the most amazing thing.
They look at and it's like Oh, okay, it's like that,

(27:51):
and I just say it's because it's based on population.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Is it is it now down to counties? Is it
mostly divided by counties or how is it?

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Well, we take all the counties, basically, we take we
take them in a clever way. We look at the
rural areas of a county. Every county has a lot
of rural area in California, and so many of the
most of the counties, like if you look at Stantis
lass or San Joaquin County or Calaveras County or Kerrent County,

(28:22):
though these are big, large rural counties, but you know,
some of the other counties start to be divided up
when we look at them. As an example of San Sacramento,
Sacramento has quite the urbanized area around the capitol area,
but on the outskirts it's very rural. So we take
what we call Sacramento rural land and leave the urbanized

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as part of California. And the same with San Francisco.
Heavily urbanized areas all become California, the rest of it
becomes New California. Los Angeles, the top of Los Angeles,
which is in Palmdale, Lancaster, that whole area that becomes
rural California. So the designation for many counties will have

(29:06):
a rural designation for us for mapping reasons, and those
counties will be the counties in California.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
And very interesting.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Did it shatters Reynolds versus Sims, which what we did
with the intent of doing that. What we did is
we look, we automatically assigned to every county when we
brought them on board and charted them, they had to
have a senator for every county. So for the first

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time since nineteen sixty five, I believe these counties actually
do have representative senators and they take it to heart.
They mean, we have every county was assigned to Assembly
members and that's the beginning map. It's all red nown
and we thought initially we went with the academics on

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that map, that's the original map, and we thought the
academics had it all down. You know that the coastal
regions including like San Luis Obispo and Monterey and Ventura
and San Benito and parts of Santa Clara County were
all heavily democratic. Now, what we did find out, and

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this is where the motor suppressions happened. There you go,
that's the new California map right now, and you can
see the yellow is the is twenty It's not twenty
million right now. We've actually made some changes since that
the original map, and it's more like sixteen million seventeen
million that California will have and we'll have the rest.

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But when we looked at all those other counties, we
would as each county was chartered, we made a different map,
and that's why sometimes you'll see some of the colored
maps there and we would paint those the the new
California maps that read until it was completely filled in.
But these counties in this area they're in question are

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the ones that are going to have issues with divisions
and boundaries and things like that. But they're they're kind
of minor compared to the whole state. But then then
the idea of having every county have a senator right
now has been very interesting because we walk around and
we tell people when we go to a hearing or

(31:32):
if we go and visit with some of their county
supervisors during public here we we we announce ourselves as
new California. I'm Paul Preston, I'm the assembly member from
Sutter County and for the new California State, and they
all perk up and they all listen. You know, they
used to kind of scoff at us. But you know what, Jerome,

(31:55):
we've taken some legal actions against these people and some
of the ones with the been heavily involved with the
COVID virus. We've delivered declarations of complaints on them, and
especially the county clerk recorders as an example we have
we've been using algorithm and look using algorithms as evidence
against these folks, and it's very compelling. We did our

(32:19):
first deliverance of the declarations, which it's illegal, grief is
what it is. Our attorney drew them up and we
have all the election code sections and penal code sections
and all this other stuff and USC sections and then
we would throw in a couple of the algorithms in

(32:43):
question about what we saw. And we did this with
Tommy Gong. He was the first one out of San
Luis Obispo County. June first, twenty twenty one. We served
him with one hundred and twenty three declarations signed by
one hundred and twenty three members of the county of

(33:03):
citizens of the county San Luis Obispo. That was July first.
On July third, he announced his resignation.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
We said, that's amazing. So you know, you really, when
you look at that map, it's amazing. I think across
the United States, if you did that map, you'd find
the same thing.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Oh yeah, you'd find that the.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Vast majority of the counties are conservative and it's only
the cities that are the left controls of the cities
right now, and the cities are the ones that are
going socialist.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Right And you take a look at you remember Everett Dirkson,
of course, right, of course, yeah, they call them. In fact,
I have a couple I was gonna it's interesting because
there's a new Illinois movement that's patterned itself after us,
and we have some of our people going to be
over there this weekend for the convention. But Everett Dirkson,

(33:59):
you know, his final battle was to fight this, to
fight the Reynolds versus Sims decision, because he said, and
see he's got some great quotes on this, it's a
great study. I visited his museum, which was just incredible.
But he you know, he said that what we've created
in this decision of Reynolds versus Sims, which was done
by the Warren Court, the you know Earl Warren from

(34:24):
the Warren Commission on anyway, that guy who was the
governor of California at one time. Anyway, he before he
became the Supreme Court justice. But Everett Dirkson said that
what we've what they created with that decision was a
situation where you're going to be the rural areas are
going to be dominated by the big cities. And he said, California,

(34:46):
San Francisco, Sacramento, Chicago, New York, they all start dominating
the whole country if we don't watch out, and the
city centers in general will do that. Like you've got Portland,
you got Seattle, and again every place where you have
upheaval right now has been the focus of that that upheaval,

(35:08):
and it has been the focus of that whole Renalds
versus Siem debacle. But yeah, you have every part of
the nation that is at risk of having us happen.
Right well.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
The Renalds Sim's decision, which was eight to one, was
really on the equal protection clause that you know that
you had to have substantially equal state representative representation for
all citizens. So this was the beginning of a lot
of the reapportionment legislation and reapportionment activity, yes going on.

(35:47):
But you know, the reapportionment is also led the jerrymandering
and the way the Democrats have done it, and so
that's about to be fixed, i think by the Supreme Court,
so that you end the racial preferences in how you
determine districting for you know, voting for the House of Representatives.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
But it still does not solve the problem no sovereignty
of the counties. It does, and that's the key thing
because what they're trying to do, and this you have
to play long ball about how they're trying to destroy
the United States is they're trying to destroy sovereignty and
the sovereign senator of a county is what they're trying

(36:29):
what they started with, and then they've worked their way
down to sheriffs other elected county officials as well, in
an attempt to break the borders and not have borders
between counties, which ultimately would lead to the nation doing
the same with senators. There're already is discussion about some
of it at course Columbia University that there should be

(36:53):
a situation where senators in other states, because right now
every every senator or excuse me, there's two senators for
every state. That's what the founding fathers gave to the
legislature and to create a bi cameral legislature in the
United States, a Senate and a House of Representatives, and

(37:16):
that was to be carried out through the state as well,
so state senators would be elected by the sovereign counties
to strengthen the sovereignty of the county. Well, these people
have figured out the way you destroy the country is
to break down that sovereignty and ultimately break compacts. That's
what they wanted to do, and that we defy that,

(37:37):
of course, and we reinstituted the senators in every county
as a growing state, and that's had an impact on
a Sacramento. They know it. I think nationally they know
what we're doing too, that this is the endgame for
them because once we return sovereignty with them, we can
really focus in on restoring the republic. And that's where

(38:00):
we're going with all this. Even the smallest of counties,
if it's a county, deserves a senator as opposed to
a district, which the district is very very pejorative. What
you do is you create unicameralism, you know under Reynolds
versus Sims and you talk about lack of representation. The
people have all the representation in the world. But what

(38:22):
about the other elements of what we govern? You know,
there are businesses, there is commerce, there's a right, you know,
there's a schools, there's all the things that go along
with it. The environment, you know, what's uh. You know,
it's a perfect situation if you don't have anybody protecting
the environment. Now when I say that, what I'm looking

(38:43):
at are big concerns companies that want to do mining
as an example. They want to tear up the the
land like crazy and do the work. You know, if
they're left unbridled and unchecked, then they then they're a problem.
But so that's what they want to do, is so
that there's open borders between counties, there's open borders between states.

(39:04):
Is pretty soon there's no borders at all, right, And
that's what that's what this leads to.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
We're talking with Paul Preston and Paul is has done
Agenda twenty one Radio website is a twenty one r
dot com and we're talking about the New California state
movement that Paul has championed over the years. And I
think once this begins to take hold, Paul, you're gonna

(39:29):
find a lot of states looking at this.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
I mean, well, yeah, we get a lot of calls.
We're getting calls from Canada, from Canada, from Canada, right,
that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Well, Canada, of course has a massive problem in terms
of whether or not people are represented by the government,
which is going completely leftist.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Right.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
The point here is that it's shocking when you see
how much of the states you can do that for Texas,
you could do that for a dozen states that the
you know, including New Jersey. I mean I live in
New Jersey and New Jersey. You take out Newark, Elizabeth
and Patterson, you've got a very very conservative state. Same

(40:12):
for Virginia. To take out the you know, parts of
Virginia that are close to Washington, d C. The bedroom communities,
and you've got a very very different state. And so therefore,
you know, the cities have been the leftist powerhouse. But
there's enough people in these cities, even though the territory

(40:32):
is small, that they swing state wide elections. That's the
difficulty is that.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
All out here in California, we don't you know, we
have a mono party system because the state wide elections
are are corrupt as you as you know they're corrupt.
They are out here in California, and especially with the
use of the algorithm, and they're trying to put fresh
lipstick on that ugly pig and it's not working. Didn't
work in the last election here just last Tuesday. In fact, tomorrow,

(41:05):
we get the bonus, buddy, because when we decided we
were going to have our own election on November fourth,
back in July, we weren't thinking that there's going to
be an election in nothing was announced, and so we
get these nasty We're setting up shop, we're going to
have the election, just like we said, we didn't care

(41:25):
about Prop fifty, and all of a sudden, we're getting
these nasty letters from this state. So I checked with
I knew they were completely bogused, and they were completely
out of line, and I was ready to damn the torpedoes.
And I called my attorney and he said, yeah, you
have every right to do what you want to do.
And so we got another one that was really kind
of I sat back and I thought about it. I said,

(41:50):
it's kind of interesting because they started templating letters from
one county clerk to another, and so the second one
that they put out it was as to a completely
random county chair from another county from where it was
supposed to go to. And so I said to myself,

(42:10):
this is crap. I said, we're not going to put
ourselves up and be aligned with a fraudulent election. We'll
just postpone it one week and we'll stand with the
veterans and honorable people and have an election in an
honorable fashion and let it go at that. And that's
what we have planned for tomorrow. So we run these

(42:30):
elections very well. They're very simple. It doesn't cost much money.
You know, we did a cost comparison on Shasta County
because they if they were to use paper ballots versus
the mail in ballots, the cost figure for a paper
ballot being handled all in was a dollar and thirty

(42:51):
cents or something, and the cost basis for mail in
ballots is now twenty one dollars each all in each each.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Well, democrats don't mind spending money, no, they spend They
spend your money to accomplish their goals.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
That's that's exactly what they do. And so anyway, when
we do an election now it's very and we've got
it down to a science for ourselves, it's very easy.
The public loves them, Jerry. I mean, we get people
driving for seventy eighty miles one way to come and

(43:31):
vote in our elections, just to have a just to
have a voice. And you know, it's really amazing to
hear these stories of people wanting to make the change,
but they know they can't because the corruption is so
strong and it's getting worse. But people don't know what
the what you know, what is it that you can
change about government to fix that problem. Now, in the

(43:53):
old days, when we didn't have the United States of
America and a Constitution of Bill of Wrights and you
had a dictatorship that it was wild revolution. And right
now I'm not too sure where we're going with all this,
but I know that as long as we in New
California continued out our path, we can will be a
state that will honor the Constitution and not fight against

(44:15):
it like we're seeing.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Well, I want to cover a couple more things before
we wrap up, and this is with Paul Preston Agenda
twenty one Radio A twenty one R dot com Paul
the I think it's widely anticipated that President Trump is
going to issue that he announced last week he was
going to issue a new executive order to demand all

(44:40):
the things we've said. You know, I've been researching this
on God's Five Stones dot com. And the algorithms that
we found, I think were pivotal, and people realizing the
extent to which codes have been written into the state
board of election. What a registration file that permitted the
creation of these millions of false records that yet get
had legitimate state ideas and could be voted in these

(45:02):
mail in ballot schemes. Now, once we found that, I
think President Trump saw the problem. We saw it with
twenty twenty election being stolen and now we have he
just pardoned something like seventy seven people that were in
and so I think Donald Trump is definitely on the

(45:23):
track of making sure that we have fair elections and
correct elections where non citizens do not vote in twenty
twenty six, and I know the States are going to
resist this, but I also see Donald Trump putting the
military increasingly into the democratic cities to control them. So

(45:43):
I'm wondering if the military would run an election. Donald
Trump declared that we had a constitutional crisis or a
national emergency crisis under Article two powers as commander in chief,
that our elections were being penetrated by foreign governments. You
could very well have the military run the election in
twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
I agree, and I think that that he should. And
you know, we we were we were one of the
first ones out of the shoot when we saw these situation.
We had been studying in the New California movement and
I've been you know, politically activated. But the fraud that
was going on because of the Orange County situation in

(46:26):
twenty eighteen, when we lost six seats to Congress, and
it smelled like an algorithm, looked like an algorithm. You know,
you can just look at the spreadsheet. It was an algorithm, right,
And then it wasn't until twenty twenty and we had
met some people, one individual I think you've talked to
who had the algorithms down. He still does. He's just fast,

(46:47):
fantastic at it. And when we reported that Donald Trump
had won California with fifteen million, eight hundred thousand votes,
and Joe Biden had lost with six million, four hundred thousand.
Everybody was shocked. But we're back. We have them back
down from those numbers. And then we discovered all the
fraud that led us to another lawsuit and you know,

(47:10):
to try and suit it to stop even the j
sixth thing from happening with the fifty three delegates or
fifty five delegates to the electoral College. But that was
all slow walk by the courts for one reason or another.
We filed several avacus briets and so on, but none
of that came to fruition. But we still have some
hope for the lawsuits because the characters, the cast of

(47:32):
characters is there and they should be sued. But I
think with Trump, now, what I think is really important
is that we know that with Pam Bondi as ag
that automatically we get standing with her. No other way

(47:52):
would we able to get standing on any kind of
lawsuits going forward. But I think that we have an
opportunity if we want to go federally have something there.
But I agree, I think that Donald Trump can pull
from his vast resources constitutionally and act constitutionally as a president.
And when he declares an emergency or if he signs

(48:14):
the Insurrection Act, which I think I think he's already
signed it. I think he's kept it a secret.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
I'm not sure that, but but I know he's.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Think the smile drope.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yeah, well, he's contemplating it for sure, there's no doubt
about it. But he's actually signed it. I don't think
has happened. Well, it would be, it could be. I
mean I know that.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
I know that certain people's behaviors like that. The tell
is the governor of Oregon. That lady which I didn't
realize was a lady for a long time, that lady. Boy,
did she do it? I think somebody had to talk
to her. Boy did she do a complete about face
on what was going on with Donald Trump? But I
think that, yes, I think he needs to act and

(49:05):
act pretty soon because things are getting a little dicey
and uh, you know, especially now in New York. You
have that whole thing going crazy out there, and what
are New Yorkers going to do? But I don't think
we need the You know that these people that are here
illegally and or they're here legally and they're trying to
espouse the downfall of this country that's all unconstitutional, and

(49:29):
especially if they become a citizens here, you know, like
you have the case with Mundamie or whatever his name is.
I kind of I always kind of screwed up on
radio if I don't like you anyway, he you know,
he's a he's a naturalized citizen. And if he's gonna
he's gonna profess Sharia law, that's everybody is talking about it,

(49:51):
and he will ultimately do that. He needs to be
arrested and thrown out of the country.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Uh, clearly, somebody's he's at risking committing a crime by
protecting the illegal immigrants.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
And absolutely it's another one.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
And so also these states that refuse to get rid
of the algorithms. The algorithms are these codes that are
built into the election that allow them to say, well,
we need so many thousand mail end votes to be
cast illegally, or we're going to lose this election. Because
they're all based on predicting how elections are going to
turn out while elections are being counted right now. There's

(50:27):
another reason why we shouldn't have these early voting is
that it facilitates the algorithms being calculated.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Well, it also that's the reconnaissance on the algorithm, and
then in California it's twenty nine days. They'll give you
the ballot twenty nine days in front of the election,
and then you can turn them in and they get counted.
Don't tell me they don't because they give us the
number of Republicans who voted versus Democrats and you can

(50:58):
pick it up on your phone. Twenty days. Oh yere's
hurry up. Republicans get over here and vote right, and
you say you did not count the ballasts, right, but
then you have twenty seven days to count. Twenty seven
days to count. And we have a character out here

(51:18):
who's wanting to do a voter ID, which is honorable.
We all went voter ID right, But the problem is
he doesn't tell you the difficult part is its voter idea.
But still mail in ballots.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Yeah, well that's not going to work. That's just not
going to work.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
How do you do that?

Speaker 2 (51:37):
You know, it's ridiculous, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
But this is the craziness that we're doing out here.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
I think we're pretty much running out of time here, Paul,
But I want to thank you. I mean, I'm really
glad we got to cover this issue, because this issue
is one that Americans do not understand, and it's about,
I think, to become a major issue with especially if
you succeed or when you succeed with the new California state,
there's going to be motions like this going in a

(52:06):
dozen states.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Oh yeah, it's going to really, I think energize the nation.
I think so because it's gonna we're being forced to
now look at our roots and look at the biblical
belief system of the of the Constitution and of the
Founding father and look at what they mean by about
liberty and all that. But it's the constitutional powers of

(52:29):
an authority that the president has right now where he
can demonstrate constitutional law over common law, and he has
the power, he has the authority, he can do whatever
he needs to do it. You take a look at
what the history is is the Founding fathers didn't want
a king or a queen or a monarch. I know,
Hamilton like that idea. But the bottom line they empowered

(52:52):
the president. At a time like this, when you did
have an invasion, there was a slippy of the republican
form of government in any state, and there's lawlessness that
he has full authority through these executive authorities to do
what he needs to do. If he needs the military
do whatever he needs, he's going to use it and

(53:13):
he should start doing that now. I really believe that.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
I think it's going to increasingly start happening. And Trump
seems to be determined to get control of the Justice Department,
and I think we'll have some prosecutions on the Obama
coup deeta that are going to be significant. So we're
just beginning to fight a battle here that needs to
be fought. But it's Paul. It's been a real pleasure

(53:38):
to have you as a guest, and we hope he'll
come back.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Oh yeah, I've enjoyed it. You and I've been talking
about things for a long time. I remember talking to
you in a Wahoo about that guy's name, the obam
is That's who it was. He had some other guy's
social Security number.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Yeah, that's right, another guy's social Security number, and uh
Obama story. I mean, we found the birth certificate in
Hawaii for which Obama's was copied. Arpile did validate that
Obama submitted a fictitious, badly copied forgery as his birth certificate,

(54:17):
but of course the mainstream media will never record that.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
No, I like the way Donald Trump flushed him out
for the long form. I think that was a brilliant
move on. And you know, a little side story was
that the story was as I found out that they
actually used a thumb drive, put it in a guy's hand,
and they flew it to Washington and they plugged it
into the machine. Well, I got a call from a

(54:42):
graphic artist who I was doing business at the time
because he and I had this big run in with
his boss. The guy was paying that he was an
Obama guy. He gave him money and everything, and we
both knew the thing was false, and so he called
me up. Hey, they released it, Come on down. So
I w down there. Well, you know, you know they

(55:02):
left the style pilots together. No, I know, so did
they really? This is within a few hours they called
me down there and this guy's manipulating the thing. He says, well,
look what they did here. They moved this over here.
That's what I've been doing. I was sitting there going,
oh my god, how obvious can this be? Then you'll
lost Laretta Fundy. Then oh yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
So well, that's another whole story. That yet remains to
be fully told. But I may I may get at
it again.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Well, Jerome, thank you very much for having me.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Thanks Paul, great pleasure that we've been interviewing Paul Preston.
Paul has had his his website, his podcast is Agenda
twenty one Radio. You can find it a twenty one
r dot com. The letter a number twenty one letter
r dot com. And he's got a lot of information,

(55:57):
really important information on the California State Initiative, which I
believe is going to happen and succeed. Ye when it does,
I think it's gonna be a magnificent thing to see.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
I can't wait. I'll give you the website that is
New California State dot com, New California State dot com.
If you go there now you can see all the
different things that we're doing for the election. And uh,
and of course it's a it's a great day tomorrow. Uh,
it's it's you know for all of you veterans. We're

(56:30):
going to be really involved on on what's going on there.
So we're gonna shout out to.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
It with Joshua Joshua Mess Joshua is ze O. I'm
the chairman we formed veterans first, yes, I LLC veterans first, Foundation,
veterans first, telemedicine, and we're just getting going yep. But
we salute the veterans along with you.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Thank you, Paul, Thank you

Speaker 2 (57:00):
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