May 30, 2025 • 55 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I challenged a client a couple of weekends ago. She
didn't track her alcohol on the weekend when she was
out with her friends and stuff. I was like, why not, right,
you had it? Yeah, crushed your weak.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
You know, it didn't happen, Matt, that's why.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yeah, that's why I said. I was like, it still happened.
Now we're trying to act like it didn't happen. So
now you're creating that guilt shame cycle too on top
of that. Right, So no, So I like, next time
you drink, track the fucking alcohol. Be mindful of it,
but track it. And it came back to me. She
didn't plan on having some drinks, but she had a
couple of drinks with her mom, I think or something,
and she like, I tracked this. I'm like, fuck, yeah,
(00:35):
we're now we're cooking because now.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
We're starting to creating awareness exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Now we're realizing, like I didn't actually have three glasses,
I had six, and that doubled my calories, right, that
took me out of my calorie depth.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
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Speaker 2 (00:52):
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Speaker 1 (01:33):
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Speaker 3 (01:40):
So what the fuck are you waiting for? I'll see
you in the Patreon nerd alert nerd all alert. We're
about to say the same damn thing. I know. Imagine that, right?
What is that that? Oh boy, there's a lot of
but we're doing it, you know, we're in the middle
of it. Today's a good day. Good Yeah, what about yourself?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
We're doing it. Today's a good day. It's the sun
is shining, which.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I got some sun out there in mazing.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yes, yesterday and today, and then it's going away again.
So I have been enjoying as much as I can,
you know, and then we're going to get rain Thursday, Friday,
Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Dude, this weather, What the fuck? How's the weather in Ohio.
It's been very very all over the place.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yeah, yeah today. I went on on a run this
morning and it was threatening with rain. I think we're
supposed to get rain. It still feels like early spring.
It doesn't feel like like we just had Memorial Day,
the official kickoff the summer.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
In fact, what's crazy is my husband just started working
on the pool because you know, obviously it's fucking the
mess over the winter, and last year I was looking
at memories and the kids were in the pool before
Memorial weekend, no kidding. And it's not even ready yet
right now. It's so fucking cold.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I mean, I'm wearing a sweater here today. I've been
wearing the sweaters for weeks. We had like a blast
of I think a couple of days where it was
like eighty five degrees there. Yeah, then it dropped again
and got down to forties again.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
It's depressing, to be honest. Yeah, I'm fucking ready for
it to be over. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I need the sun, I need the warmth. It really
does something for my mood, my energy. I mean I
could feel it for sure.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
The other day when I was on my run, I
started when it was real gloomy outside, but as I
was running, because I went on a longer run, so
I kept finding like little patches of sun were poking
through and I would just stop my run and I
was just there like with my arms extended, like, oh right,
this feels amazing, you know, having the right.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Sun on your face. It is. It really is. Yeah,
mood booster absolutely.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
So what's else going on? What else is going on?
I feel like I would talk to you forever, Matt.
It's been m I A.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I don't know if I've been am I A but not.
There's something bruined.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I don't know what's going on, but that has been
I don't know what the word is.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I don't know what the word is, but I guess reserved.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I guess I've been taking So first of all, I've
been taking some more downtime from like social media.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, well that's like probably one of the biggest things
you notice, and probably a lot of people listening right now,
is like I'm not very active on stories. I want
to get back on posting on stories today. Yeah, I've
just been taking more intentional downtime from my phone, especially
on the weekends and things like that. I found myself
looking and just doom scrolling and things like that. So
I had to nip that in the bud for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Okay, nice.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, but also like a lot of changes in my
life right now too, so there's been more stress and
things like that as well. We could talk about that, perhaps,
you know, some of the changes I've got going on
in my life.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Do you want to?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I mean sure, I mean what my clients suggests is, like, Matt,
this might be a good topic for you, like how
change is inevitable.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
It is, it is, changes is always happening, and I
think it's good for you to talk about what's going
on with you and pluting it out there.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
You know, well, so I've been pivoting, I guess in
a way with my with coaching at but I've been
making some changes behind the scenes and also now at
the front of the scenes with my coaching and changing
the way that we've been doing our coaching. And this
has been also been working on this for a while now.
The last year plus stopped putting more of a focus
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on like one on one coaching, and I was trying
and I've been working on building out like group coaching
with our fIF fat Strong strength training program and cardio
with running, and then like our mindful eating program. So
the result of that is, you know, essentially where I'm
at now is we're getting to a point where it's
no longer a bit like a coaching business.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I guess that you should say that coaching business.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
But some of my coaches are leaving, right, So there's
no easy way to say that, and it's it's not
a bad thing, it's not.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
It's just this is where the current season of life is.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
So that's kind of you know, what I've been working
on as well behind the scenes is this transitional period.
So I've been really focusing more so on like clients
and working with clients, and for me, that's that's fucking
where it's that for me is.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, and it's still a coaching business. It's Matt bandliars wrong.
I mean, you know what I'm saying, I'm like, that's
do you're yes, you know, I was like, wait a minute,
but no, you're still a coach and you still what
you do.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
You do what you do and you do it really well.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, of course, yeah, you're just you're pivoting, that's all
You're You're still fit, that strong, Matt. Yeah, it's just
a little less people.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yes, like nothing is changing, like with my coaching my business, right,
I should say that, you know still Yeah, just I
have more of an emphasis on the group coaching because
that's that one thing that I have.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Learned over this last year.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
If that's strong, is I fucking missed coaching so bad
and being hands on with our clients.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Because for a couple of years they're just like yourself, nerdle.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
As I was growing my business, I had to take
a step away from coaching, and I really fucking missed coaching.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, because they're good.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I mean yeah, I feel the same way with and
that's why I love doing these challenges. I do, like
you know, four times a year, and it recharges my batteries.
I fucking love getting immersed in this. You know, twenty
eight days and doing the zoom calls and answering questions
every day. It's I it fuels me. So I totally
understand our Yeah, totally totally agree.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
It's just so rewarding. It is so fucking rewarding.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, that's why you got into it.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yes, That's why I got into it.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
So I'm getting getting back to that essentially, yeah, you know,
and supporting our clients, working with you know, limited number
one on one clients.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Myself and me and mel are.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Still here too, right, So yeah, we're putting a big
focus on mindful eating. I've always had the mindful eating,
but this is really where I'm what where my passions
lie as well as with mindful eating. Yeah, and taking
that approach to like nutrition and behavior change.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
So yeah, that's so there's a lot of a lot
of those changes and that have been working been been
we've been working on for a while, are just coming
to fruition now.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Right, So you're going through different You're You're like, there's
probably like changing systems and I'm sure there's a lot
like to navigate. Yeah that way as well, there's just
a it's just a lot to do, I guess I
don't know, Yeah, for sure, A lot to think about, right,
A lot.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
To think about yeah, yeah, yeah, because hears me, I
want to do right by everybody too, you know, I
want to deal with the best thing for everybody, so
which is hard. Sometimes it's hard when you try to
help everybody almost help you.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I've learned that you really can't.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
There's going always going to be somebody that's going to
be upset, but you know, just do the best you can.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
And like you said, you.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
What is the word I'm trying to look for, Like
you are a person of integrity and so that's all
I can see you being. You know, you know what
I mean. So that's what I guess I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, yeah, And I appreciate you. You know you always
check in on me.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So oh yeah, I'm like, I haven't heard from nerd all.
I'm like in a fucking Boston.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I do an arrow? You doing an arrow? What's up?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Good morning?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
How are you fucking knowing by me?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
But I feel like sometimes you know what, you just
need to check in on your fucking friends. I don't know,
I just I know you. I'm just gonna keeps making
sure he's okay, checking in. Yeah, is if I don't
hear from you, I'm like, there's something going on with
my nerdle over there.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
He's fucking doing something, stirring thinking, thinking, or just doing it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
A lot of the times I'm just doing recently too.
So that's what finding that balance is doing and resting
and everything too.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Right, Yeah, it's hard to figure that out.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
It is. It is.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
And like my clients have been, you know, showing a
lot of support for the changes that are going on
to and my one client, Amy was like, mad, this
could be, like, like you, something you could talk about
on the podcast about how change is inevitable and change
necessarily bad thing.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Change is a good thing, you know. Yeah, And I
think change is scary change.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
There's a lot of course, and that's as it pertains
to especially like for our listeners and our clients, like
a health and wellness journey, change is fucking scary because
there's a lot of unknowns, there's a lot of variables
that you don't have to troll of necessarily.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Right, And I'll take it on another perspective in the
health and wellness area, this is a big change for you,
And did you find yourself over eating, emotionally eating and
that aspect. Did you stop like exercising, because when things
are hard for people, certain people, you know, they just
stop taking care of themselves, like, oh my gosh, change
is happening.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
It's so scary. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I'm just going to stop right now until it feels okay. Yeah,
because there's o't enough you want to talk about that,
talk about it in which way about how like for myself.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Or yeah, yeah, well I'm actually the opposite where I'm
not like an emotional eater or stress eater. More so,
I'm a stress non eater. Though I have to be
very very intentional, very mindful to make sure I'm fueling
my body and giving it the nourishment.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
That it fucking needs.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, because if we're not nourishing our bodies, that's going
to be a recipe for disaster in terms of you know,
managing our stress and our yeah big sea word, cortisol
and all these other things just.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Our health too, you know. Yeah. So yeah, right now,
strength training is not up to where I would like
it to be. Right now.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
One to two times a week right now is what
I'm doing with strength training. But I'm still maintaining my
daily walks, still doing my running. I have decided I
don't think I was going to train for a marathon
in September.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I don't think I'm going to do that right now.
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I can't add that volume of training that would be
fighting against like my time, and.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
It's an investment.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
It's a big going from a half marathon training, I
can Yeah, I could continue doing half marathons forever probably
because right yeah, not.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
A huge time commitment. That's like, yeah, three or four
hours a week in it's a full time job. Think
about it's like thirty hours a week of running.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I mean, because I did it, and so I just remember,
I'm like, my life evolved around Okay, what time can
I fit my fucking seven mile run in? And you know,
they're not like short runs, they're like all right, this
day is like fifteen, you know, the next is like nine.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
It's like okay, you literally becomes an issue. Yeah, it's
it's job, and that's your focus.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Kind of like this bikini prep I'm doing right now,
but because it is, it is purely my focus right now,
except it doesn't consume my time and the fact that
I have to be out and out for two to
three hours, you know, mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, So that's that's not something I want to add
onto my plate right now. So what I'm going to
continue doing though, I was going to continue running and
continue to strengthening my body and maintaining my cardio and
building my cardio base up for sure, but more importantly
have fucking fun with it.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I really enjoyed having the half marathon training as because
the half marathon training block I just went there was
rellion times. I had never been that so dialed in.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Really, that's awesome like that.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
And I know what it would take to get up
to do the marathon as well. So just listening and
meeting myself where I'm at and recognizing that that's not
best for me right now. Yeah, but I am looking
forward to continue running and and the fun, the fun
things I love about running. Yeah, running, especially with this
time of year.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
We got our San Diego trip coming up. Yeah yeah,
that's gonna be here quickly. I know.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Do you know how many reserves we have or RSVPs?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I don't. I could look it up while we're talking.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Last time I checked, it was like three that was,
and that was when we had first posted the link.
Holy shit, fourteen okay, damn, all right, we've got fourteen
people are speapeed to it, so let's go nice.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Uh huh uh huh. Amy. I see Amy Carlyn on there.
I'm so excited to meet her, you know, finally, right,
see Keisha on there, Hey Keisha. Yeah, that's that's gonna
be here soon.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
July twelfth, eight am. Tory Pines. My fucking god, what
is I I never remember our hikes.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Tory Pine's Beach and Broken Hill Loop in the nice.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, so that'll that'll be here soon. So we're looking
forward to seeing the big group there.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah. So if you're listening, if you're listening, you're like,
how can I go? Just go?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
We put the link in our notes in our show
notes the last couple of weeks now, so.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Eating great hike. Anybody is welcome at three point one
miles easy.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, that's the goal, right for doing these things. Yes,
I'm easier so that everybody can do it. I know
a couple of the one we did in Oregon was
a little not not so easy, but.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, that wasn't We didn't expect it to.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Be like that.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Though, but everybody crushed it still, I know, for reals
crushed it still for reals, and that's what matters.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Absolutely, what else do we have going on? I don't
really have much other than that coming up, to be honest,
because I trying to make sure that during this prep
that I'm not traveling a million times.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Right, totally. How's your bikini prep coming?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I just got done with a four day refeed, which
is was fucking phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I mean nice four days. Yeah, pump in some calories
and carbs in. Do you two hundred grams of carbs? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
And I felt like a new person. I was like,
holy shit, that we're back down a little bit smaller
than I was before. Not too much, like twenty five calories, okay,
but it's a little smaller. So we're gonna go a
little bit smaller, uh for the next four days, and
I have another so I'll have another high calorie day
every four days now instead of every five.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Oh that's fun.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah, So I'm just going with the flow.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I'm just one apparently like I'm doing pretty well because
I've been consistent. So you kind of you know when
you're when you do really well, it's not like you
get rewarded, but you're allowed more calories. Right, It's like, Okay,
we're seeing a lot of progress because the photos, the
measurements everything. It's like, okay, so we she could she
could use like some more calories. It's it's fucking cool.
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So it just do what your fucking coach tells you.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
And you know what I'm saying, It's like, that's why
you hire a coach farction.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Results, motivation, and so you know, once you start to
see that, it's really fucking hard, trust me, right, But
now I'm starting to see results and the rewards from
all the fucking literal hard work that I've been doing,
and that is motivating within itself. So that helps continue
the process because it's like, yes, if I keep putting
in the work, you do see results. But you just
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have to keep putting in the work. That's what people
tend to forget. They just they think that it should
be happening fast enough, faster, or it's not happening fast enough.
I'm not seeing anything. It's like, you just need to
be consistent and patient and you will as well as
I think. I also want to talk about the fact
that a lot of people think they should look a
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certain way since they've been dieting, and a lot of
people don't understand that toning. Right. If someone looks at me,
they're like, you've had a lot of progress in the
past month. It's because I've built my foundation already, right,
Like I've been straying training for seven plus years, and
this last year we've really been focusing on this prep.
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So that is why not every person that you've never
strength trained before, you're not going to ultimately see the
body that you want right away. Yeah, you know, and
I think a lot of people go into this thinking
that they're going to look a certain way after dieting,
but it's a whole fucking process of years of strength training.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, you put on that muscle, you don't have that foundation,
and you're trying to get toned. When you die it down,
you're just going to be a skinnier version of your
current body.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Is y.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yes, And I hear that a lot when people like,
you know, I don't need to lose any fat, I
just don't. I don't look like the way I want.
It's because you haven't been in the gym.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Because you're under muscled, correct, Yeah, which is a real
fucking problem in the society.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
It really is, especially like in our.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Demographic, which is large mostly women, right women, Yeah, fifty
sixty you know, things like that, They've been targeted these
toning workouts. I know, the lightweight workouts, the purple pink weights,
the one pound two pound weights. We're flinging them around
and high intensity with no control and things like that,
because we want to get toned. We don't want to
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buff up. We don't want to get too big.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
We just want to be It's hard to get too big. No,
no woman is.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Going to accidentally get too big in the gym, and
men aren't going to get too accidentally too big in
the gym either.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Like, it doesn't fucking happen.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
You're trying to get accidentally big for fucking eight years now, right,
And I'm just like still, like Jesus fuck man, I
could I could still use more muscle for buck's sakes.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Sure, you know what I'm saying, Oh my gosh, Yeah,
it's muscles like a bank account.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, you want to start depositing, making deposits into that
as early in life as possible and as often as possible,
so you can reap the benefits of the long term interest,
right of having that that big muscle bank built up.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, muscle bank. I like that.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, so that when you do, like, okay, I want
to change my body, I'm primed and ready to go
constantly going from one diet to another a negg right
yo yo dieting that same twenty pounds, you're just every
time becoming a weaker, skinnier version of your current self essentially. Yeah,
And I say skinny in the context of like, sure,
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you'll lose some weight, but you know along with some
of that weight, it's going to be muscle mass, right,
And that's not what we want here, And.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
That's not always healthy. Like we talked about I think
was it last week. You know, you can have a
thin body and still be unhealthy. You could still be
pre diabetic, you can, yeah, because you're under muscled.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Because you're under muscled.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
That's really especially with type two diabetes. That's usually what
type two diabetes is. It's too much body fat with
not enough muscle mass at very high level, right, very
high level. And if you're a woman and you're and
I just got done training, I meanbe we could spend
a little bit of time talking about menopause and as
(19:56):
a refreshing Yeah, huh, since you're going through the fucking
things right now. I just did a kind of an
impromptu menopause talk with our clients and like a Q
and A and just shareing people sharing their experiences because
we've got people that have gone through menopause now for
ten twenty years, and there's people that are going through
it right now and are struggling, and so it's like
there's a like things you can do, things that are
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going to help, and things like that. But where I
was going with that is as you're you know, your
estrogen's reducing, You're you're going to be more instantly resistance
is going to be increasing as well, So you definitely
need to be more intentional with your strength training to
make sure you have that muscle bank built up, and
also dial into your nutrition too, like you are right now.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, absolutely one hundred percent. And you know, even like
while going through this bikini Prep two at fifty two,
it also it just proves that it really is consistency
and calorie deficit and making sure that you have a
handle on your symptoms right like I don't. I don't
have any symptoms currently I sleep very well. I don't
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have any night sweats. I honestly, I don't have any anxiety.
I'm doing pretty well at this moment, and so I've
been able to be super consistent like I without you know,
the fact that I've been a little bit tired because
of lower calories, but I'm still getting shit done. I'm
still doing the thing even when I don't want to
do it. And so I just want every menopausal woman
to know that it really just fucking comes down to
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you mastering those boring basics and being consistent honestly, and
getting a whole handle on your symptoms. That may that's
what's making it harder for you to stick to your
deficit and get control of the alcohol. You know, honestly,
you complain about your menopausal symptoms, but you don't know
how to put down the drink. We have a lot
of clients that are struggling with this right now, and
(21:44):
it fucking breaks my heart. You know, it's alcohol. Is
shouldn't be so important that you're not taking care of yourself.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Right, And two things that are super super important for
everybody but are even more important going through menopause are
stress management. Right, Yes, alcohol it directly impacts both of
those things. Yeah, that big C word cortisol, right gets
impacted by alcohol and poor sleep.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Mm hmm. The alcohol doesn't actually.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Help with stress, right, No, no, it makes it worse
that moment, maybe in that moment, but after. And that
can also help with where you're storing body fat too, yeah, wow,
right when you're drinking alcohol that if you're in a
caloric surplus, alcohol a loan isn't going to make you
gain body fat. But if you're in a coloric surplus
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and not controlling your calories, then that increases the likelihood
that your body fat gets stored in your belly.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
And your Yeah, and that you're drinking. So you got
the belvetere bloat and you got the menopausal body fat
deposit in different areas. So it's like double lammie, yeah,
double belly. I you know, unfortunately, and I can tell
if I'm walking anywhere and I see someone a woman
that has kind of like a reddish face and a
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really big belly that they're drinkers, It's like you immediately
know they're menopausal on their drinking.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Drinker that's got a very distinct look is like that.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
You know, if you've been drinking. Your belly is pretty profound,
and that's got to be uncomfortable, to be honest.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
So you mentioned that you're not really having many issues
with like sleep and things like that right now, but
that hasn't always been the case for you. If we remember,
like maybe just a couple of like a year or
two ago on this one.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yeah, like two years.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, I think it's been two years in April since
I've been on birth control. When I was going through
a phase where I had a ton of hot flashes
and I was sleeping like absolute trash, Yeah, fucking trash.
And it was in Florida twenty twenty two if I'm correct,
twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three, when I just
was sweating all the time. It's fucking and shitty sleep. Yeah,
(23:50):
And that affected my moods apparently, you know, obviously. And
so I went to my doctor and she decided to
put me on birth control and not h yet, and
she said, at some point you will be on HRT.
Well let's start you with this. And it's been working,
I have to say, other than some mood swings and
brain fog, you know, I take that back. I have
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massive brain fog. But that to me is like the
least of my fucking worries that.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
That's one thing that our clients were kind of sharing
in the college, is like the brain fog is there
an that's horrible?
Speaker 3 (24:21):
That's been helpful for that.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
No, And you know I've been I've been taking creatine
for a few years now, so I don't even know, Like,
could my brain fog be worse?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I don't know. Do you know what I'm saying? So
creatine helps with our cognitive abilities, right, yeah? Yeah, so proll.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I know, maybe I am doing pretty well comparative to
what I would have been.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I couldn't tell you the best menopause chronicles have been.
You've been living them on the podcast for the past
couple of years, so I guess I have. I can,
I can recall it. We've had many conversations. That's usually
when we start our podcast. It's always, you know, not always,
but a lot of times it was about you know,
your own your hot flashes, your poor m why and
things like that.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
And for all I know, I might even be postmenopausal.
I don't know, because I am on a birth control
that I continually take, so I never get a period.
And maybe that's why I feel pretty good.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, And also I think people need to understand that
menopause is just one year. Actually it's just one day,
one day, So it's when you go a full year
without a period. So you can't be in menopause for
ten years. It's impossible. You can be a perimenopause for
ten years, which is when it starts near could be
late thirties, early forties, start to get little symptoms here
and there.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
That leads into.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Menopause, which is going without a period for a full year.
And so once you've done that, you're now postmenopause. So
menopause is literally a blip of a fucking moment the day, right, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
A menopause days.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
So you guys know, you got to stop saying you've
been menopause for ten years because it's it's been impossible.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I do the same thing though, Yes, I.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Just shouted out the podcast we did with the Menopause
dial Latees actually with our clients, because they were the
ones that told us that, right, or maybe that I
didn't know that already. It was just really just one
day for menopause. But I know our clients. They were like,
what I know, right, I've been I've been a menopause
for X amount of years and I've been struggling.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Well, it's perry. Menopause is where most people I mean
semantics perhaps, but I know it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Really fucking either way. It sucks and apparently, you know,
some people will still have lingering symptoms after in post menopause.
And I've I got to finish my menopause specialist course
right here. I'm like on chapter fucking twelve. But honestly,
it's everything that I'm learning is everything that I already know.
And I think that's why I've been delaying it, because
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it really is I just need to get it done. Yeah,
I haven't really learned anything new.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Now why is that bad? Why? Because why is it?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
It's really the boring basics. It's really the foundations, right,
Like they talk about fiber and digestive health and protein
and strength training. I mean everything that I already know, right,
and you know how everyone has a different menopausal experience,
but really it's really about supporting, you know. And yeah,
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and you know what else like pelvic floor health, you know,
because you know, things do happen like urinary track, bladder,
reproductive organs, they drop.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
You know, things get a little weird that.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Way, But other than that, it is the boring basics. Matt.
So when you hear people talk crazy shit on the
internet about menopause, which has been going on lately with
like the big wigs, you know, like fucking what's her name,
Stacy Simms and Mary Claire haveer they'd love their rat studies.
They love their rat studies, and they love ah that
(27:52):
calories in, calories out is different from women. Yeah, now
the people are getting pissed. We're talking the science. They're
getting pissed now. And we're seeing people that don't ever
call out people call out people like, uh, you know
the powerlifting dietician. He doesn't ever do any things like that,
and he he made a whole post about her and
(28:13):
how he's like, can't stand she's not basing her facts
off science at all, and she's making women feel broken
for no fucking reason.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Mm hmmmmm.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
It's it's absolutely fucking bullshit to be honest, and people
like like well idolize people like Stcy Simms, They idolize
people like doctor Marie Claire, and these women are using
their authority for Missy, they're misusing their authorities.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
It's an appeal to authority. And that's that. Yes, that's
the logical policy. It's fucking it's wild.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
And the fact that doctor Mary Claire can get away
with a supplement line of things that you can get
at fucking on Amazon or Walmart. You need to take fiber,
here's my fiber. You need to take vitamin D, here's
my vitamin. You need to take creatine, here's my creatine.
It's called like the pause or something. It's like, go
(29:05):
fuck yourself. You're monetizing your fucking audience when you know
you upped the price of this shit like fifty percent.
They can go to fucking Walmart and get the same
fucking thing. Yes, I can't stand that.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Right, which those are good supplements right for anybody? Yeah,
that's exactly like creatine are awesome supplements, but you can
recommend them.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
You don't need to start a fucking supplement line and
completely shyst your audience, knowing that that you have them
hook line and sinker and they will listen to anything
you fucking say. That's where I'm It's like you're you're
a piece of shit.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Does Mary mary Claire still promote inter manifesting as like
the end I'll be off.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
I'm sure that's one of her books.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
It's her diet, the Galveston Diet, I think is what.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, she even has her own way to best now
I believe really like, if you catch me with a
doctor Mary Claire waited best fucking just literally drag me
by my fucking hands down the street and put me
in a ditch. Okay, thank you ever, throw and throw
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you yes, just be done.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah, you're You're exactly right. It's and it's so it's
so easy to see. It's so easy to see. Yeah,
and what's that is like?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
And then it's like the people like us, they're like,
she's a dots here and you don't know what you're
talking about. It's like you don't find go buy her supplements,
her weighted best and listen to her fucking bitch and
cry that she didn't get on the fucking New York
Times bestseller list. That's your girl, Go for it, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
It actually happened, It did it did.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
And a friend of ours that we know I'm not
going to name names sent me the video three like
a few years ago when it happened, She's like, look
at this shit, because I already blocked her. You know,
she's been blocked since like twenty twenty. And so she
screenshot the recording and so to me, and I was like,
are you shitting me right now? Yeah, she was in
her fucking bed, made an Instagram story crying about how
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she did not make the New York Times bestseller list.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Wow, to tell show people where your priorities are. Uh huh,
that's a big red flag.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Yeah. Super.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
And then when she went uh it really started with
for me with her when she went after my friend
Kim Schlog, which we she she's been on this podcast.
And I don't know if you remember when that whole
thing went out around where she was saying that you
you don't it doesn't a calorie deficit will not get
rid of visceral fat. Do you remember that?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
And then so my friend Kim, my friend.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Kim did a video and said the only way to
get rid of any fat is to be in a
calorie deficit. That's how this works, right, And and Mary
Claire like went after her so hard, she had all
her followers go after.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Kim like she Kim's got a big she's got a
big following. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
And then so it was so bad that Kim actually
got off TikTok and that was the end of TikTok
for her. It was so bad the way the way
this woman like went after her about something that was
actually Kim was right about.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Mm hm m hm. That's that's this gross. It was gross. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
And so since then, I'm like, I don't like you.
And this was before all of it.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
So I am finding this is not necessarily related to menopause,
but but definitely fat loss. I'm finding that fat loss
is becoming more and more complicated and more and more confusing.
And I didn't know that was possible because we've been
doing it.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I want to just give an example here. I reposted
what an old video of mine recently. I remember this
video you wrote, you know, science with doctor Stacey.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
I think her name is Shit. I'm gonna go look
the video up really quickly, but it's the video is
where does your fat go when you lose it? Yes?
I remember? Okay, So what are people saying? Oh?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
I reposted that video because it was it popped up
in my memories. I posted it just on Facebook exclusively.
And Facebook is a kind of a cess pool sometimes
for nutrition and fallous information. Right, there's just so much misinformation.
God yeah, the reality the video was where does falla?
Where does fat go when you burn it? In quotations? Right,
(33:23):
And I'm gonna I'm going to clarify this by saying,
you don't Your fat cells don't go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Right.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Fat cells will either shrink when if you're in a
calorie deficit, or they will expand if you're in a
cleric surplus. Your fat cells never go away once you
acquire them. You can get new fat cells over the
course of your life, but once they're there, they're always there,
unless you fucking get liposuction or something. But the moral
of the story was you breathe out the fat, right,
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Like eighty percent of all fat that you lose exits
your body via your lungs in the form of carbon dioxide.
And right, because fat, it's gout water for sure, So
like we sweat it out and we pee it out too,
but it's not as much as people think. And this
is the argument people are having. They're like, you don't
breathe it out, you pee it out, You poop it
out like when you poop out the food. You're not
pooping out like fat cells. Like, sure, you're peeing out
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the water that's getting broken down in the fat when
it shrinks. But also that carbon that's being released you
gotta go somewhere right right, it gets exit, It leaves
your body in the form of carbon dioxide via your lung.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
So you're breathing. You're literally breathing your fat out.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
That's like energy in energy out, yes, because calories are
essentially energy.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yes, right, carbon is energy, yeah right right, carbon beings,
we eat carbon, We are made of carbon. That is
an energy currency. You know, people are just arguing it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Really, what are they saying? How can I argue with that?
Just telling you that it comes out of your ass
and you pee it out.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah, Like so you're saying all I have to do? Well,
they're like, all are you saying? All you All I
have to do is breathe faster, hyperventilate, Like.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
People need to use their brains.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Like you need to still be in a calorie deficit.
This is what happens when you lose the fats, right,
you still need to get in a calorie deficit to
trigger this. This mechanism in your body and then this
is what happens after that. You can't even try to
simplify things because that video was very, very simplified, and
she even said that in her video, like, now, yes,
I'm over simplifying things, but this is how it works
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simplifying things. You're not like like, yeah, she literally said
that in the video.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Because if she didn't, you still wouldn't understand.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Right, Yeah, As science communicators, we need to are you smart?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Are you smarter than a sixth grader?
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I mean that's the reality, right, is when you're talking
about scientific things like fat loss and calorie devsits, you
need to break it down in a way that everybody
can understand.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
You do.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
And that's why me and Matt don't talk like we're
fucking a scientist.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
We're not.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
But you wouldn't catch me I talk to you guys.
I would talk to my son, Yeah, and he still
wouldn't understand.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
And that's not to like patronize anybody, right, It's just
we need to understand these simple basic concepts.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
If you don't need to know, you don't need know
about the modychondria of the fucking cell and ship. You know,
what I'm saying, you don't. You just need to know that,
like what you need to do to be in a
calorie deficit. Once you go fucking farther than that, you're
in the weeds. Man, You're like fucking lost.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, you know that is when you start. That's when
you start getting sold supplements and all these other ships. Yes,
all the other things that you don't need. And you're
convincing because you're focused on your cortisol face or your
your menopause belly or whatever the fuck they're telling you
to do.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Get rid of those things, right, right, it's just crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
And here's and and the and the woman that posted
that video too is a PhD in microio, right, Like
the one woman is like, I'm a nurse, Like okay,
like what does that mean? Like this isn't the disparaged nurses,
but like the nurses. My god, I think it's a
very wide field too, Like what kind of a nurse
are you?
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Are you a fat lost nurse or something? You know,
like the.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Sorry, but this woman that literally does this for a living,
who has a PhD in this topic?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Right, there's so many Google doctors out there, you know,
Google University.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, Google university.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
This other woman was like, I don't if you need to,
if you need to listen to what other people are
telling you that from from college and you're stupid and
you don't know what you're talking about, Like I I
I am proof I know it because I'm doing it myself.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
It's like you're, yeah, I'm glad that's whatever you're doing
is working for you, but that you can't use that
to equates to the population, right, that's where we get
it so so fucking wrong.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Well worked for me, I'm glad. I'm glad it worked
for you.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yeah, I'm sorry, but you didn't poop your fat out either,
like you're trying to say.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
That's like saying, like, you know, my grandfather drank every
day and smoked every day and never got lung cancer
or liver cancer. Yeah, okay, how many fucking Uncle Clarences
are there?
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Not many? Okay? He is anomaly?
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yeah so yeah, so kind of like getting repping it
back to menopause. I suppose has there been any big
lessons learned for you about weight loss and menopause, like
especially right now with your bikini prep lart mostly.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Hm.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
No, it's just like I shouldn't say it's like any
other calorie depsite. It's just the steeper and I've been
more hungry and it's been more uncomfortable than I'm used to.
But other than that, and that's part of what I'm doing,
I think. But as for menopause, no, yeah, okay, no.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Just have to I mean, be more brutally consistent. Really
is the biggest thing. It really is an exercise and
strength training, and.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
More people need to be proactive than reactive. And I'm
so glad that I was proactive at forty two and
stopped drinking and start strength training and taking care of
myself because I really attribute that to how my menopause experience.
With the ups and downs that I did have. When
I did get help, it's been pretty smooth sailing, you know. Yeah,
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being proactive is key.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
The best time to get yourself ready for menopause is
earlier in life, the earlier lifefore.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
It happens, before it happens. Yeah, because think about it.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Think about if I would have, you know, just kept
doing what I was doing and drinking into my late forties.
Got I can't imagine I was like in the throes
of my night sweats and like double the anxiety. Imagine
along with drinking, right, imagine trying to get your shit
together that like during all that, right, you know, it's like,
(39:30):
don't try to get your shit together in the ship storm.
You know, be prepared for the shit storm so it's
not as bad.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Prepare for the ship storm.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, well, yes, yes, don't because then it's going to
be immensely harder for you, obviously, because you are drinking
your metopausal, you're overweight, and you're you know, you're frustrated,
you're stressed.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
It's a lot harder to get a handle on things.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah, the best time to learn how to use a
fire extinguisher is not when everything's on fire around you.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Yeah, good analogy. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
That's like with any kind of skill, any any type
of tool that we're trying to build, because we're that's
what we're doing, right, is we're building out skills and
tool belts. Yeah, that's time to learn how to use
a tool is not when you need it. It's before it.
It's before you need it, because then when time comes,
you're like, oh, I've done.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
This before, mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
And it's more it's more automatic. You don't have to
fight against yourself as much. You don't have to get
yourself struggle as much.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, you got to get out of your own way.
You got to stop being so stubborn. You just fucking
do it. I feel like a lot of women are
just so stubborn and they're just stuck in their ways.
You know, you'd say that men are stuck in their ways.
I think women are too, I.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Mean, more human beings, I think.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
I think just human psychology is we don't want to change,
like changes.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
It's like, I think a lot of people are just
more comfortable with bitching about being uncomfortable rather than just
fucking doing the damn thing to get uncomfortable, because then
you have nothing.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
To bitch about. M damn. Yeah. You know.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
It's like a lot of people like to catastis their life.
And that was me when I was drinking. So maybe
if you're a drinker and you could tastrophize everything that
could be part of it. Everyone was against me, and
you know what I'm saying, It's like the drinking made
everything worse.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah, it's like dropping a match on an open gas can.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Yeah, h m hmm.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Really yeah, stop catastrophizing and searching for so many people
just keep searching for issues that'd be something wrong instead
of searching for solutions.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Solutions. Yeah, yeah, well the solution oriented well.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
If we if we're convinced that we have a problem,
that's that's not our fault and that that might sound harsh,
but you know that takes away like the responsibility in
a way to do that.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
And we talked about this so fucking much.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Yeah, and like for like solution oriented, I feel like
people like, let's say, because I did the I reposted
my pivot video today, it's like anything that happens right,
you don't think of a solution, you immediately catastrophize and
say fuck it, you know, like, oh, I left I
left my meal prep at home. Fuck it, I'm just
going to go to the drive through. And that's not
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a good analogy because that's that would be a situation
in which you may have to do that.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
So that was that was not correct. No, I mean
it could be because you don't have to go through
the drive through.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
True, true, true, true, But could any situation and you
don't you just you let it just everything go to ship.
You don't pivot, you don't like just do the next
right thing. You just roll over you know, yeah, exactly,
It's like instead of you know, you're thinking of a
solution for whatever issue you might have. Let's see, I
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don't fucking know, you didn't meal prep your food for
a night and you came home and you're hungry.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
You don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Well, maybe you have something in the fucking freezer like
you should have had already ready, Like you know you
have that emergency freezer stash.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
So I've got I've got car snacks, right, I keep
going backs and night glovebox for that.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Reason, And that's something I'm working on with with a
lot of my clients right now is the weekends, especially
so pre planning for the weekends. Yeah, a lot of
clients and I'm sure your clients are the same way.
Do great during the week but then it's the weekends
that they struggle with. It's because we're outside of our
normal routines. We maybe we're sleeping in a little bit longer,
we don't have to go to work, we don't have that, yeah,
(43:23):
and we're not planning for the weekend, so we just
were out of free for all of What am I
going to eat?
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Okay, Well, what do I have available?
Speaker 1 (43:29):
You know, well, I've got a muffet breakfast, and then
I've got I'll swing through and grab a burger through
the drive through and fries later, and then maybe I'll
do like a nutritious meal first something for dinner. And
then yeah, then it's like, well I ate healthy yesterday
because they think about this the dinner they had, you know.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Right, Yeah, we just pre planning. We just did a
challenge with our one on one clients for a week
Monday through Friday, where we had them do all their
make all their meals at home for five days, so
no drive through, no uber eats, no takeout, nothing. And
I want to read some of the things that people
say because a lot of people eat out a lot.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Yes, but we did an entire fucking podcast on it.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
We did, didn't we? So that was pretty interesting.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
And I also like eating fast food for most people,
like nobody needs to eat fast food. I'm going to
clarify this and say that nobody is making you eat
fast food. It's not by no means of necessity. But
if you are going to eat fast food, you could
still try to make it more nutritious. Yeah, And I
can give an example while you're looking up some of
these comments here. Okay, I think it was just last
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week Sarah and I ordered Uber Eats. Okay, out here,
we ordered Uber Eats and we got Taco Bell, but
I got actually their chicken cantina bowl, which is only
I think it was like five hundred forty calories.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Uh huh, had vegetables.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
In it, it had beans, and it had some navocado
in it with the guacamole. Five hundred and forty calories,
and it had shreaded chicken in there. So it was
for fast food. That was a pretty macro friendly meal. Yeah,
instead of getting the Nacho's Bell Grande, I got the
canteena chicken bowl instead, right, So making a sensible swap
(45:13):
when you are in those situations is also fucking half
the battle.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Yeah, no, absolutely, well, I thought I just gonna go
get through it, right. Cool, we'll make a better choice
when you're going through drive through that exactly. Yep.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Okay, So I'm just going to say I'm just going
to read them. I'm not going to give names or anything.
So this challenge I learned that I can. I can
choose the harder option of prepping or planning, even when
the easier one is put right in front of me.
I can choose each day. It's not about one day,
It's about my overall mindset.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Yes, I love that.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
It's not about right, Okay, so this is from another one.
I learned that sometimes going through the drive through, even
if it's just to get a coke zero, is an
automatic thing. Sometimes I caught myself a couple of times thinking, oh,
I'm going here now without even really thinking about it,
if that makes sense. I also found that it saves
a lot of money, and it also say me anxiety
I feel around the tracking of these things. I honestly
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didn't miss it as much as I thought I would
because I would typically grab something once a week. Nice,
So that makes sense with the anxiety. A lot of
people have so much anxiety. I get a lot of
questions like how do I track when eating out? It's like, well,
if you didn't eat out so much, you wouldn't have
to fucking worry about it.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Right, If you're eating out once a month, it's probably
not something you need to worry about.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
Yeah, and you're probably not so stressed about it. But
now I'm coming to realize the people that are super
stressed are the ones that eat out all the time,
you know, So here's another one. What I learned from
this challenge is that eating from home is not that
hard and it pays dividends. I was able to eat
from home, nobody around me really cared, and I felt
good about accomplishing my week. So when I did want
(46:43):
to slice of pizza on a Friday, I didn't feel
guilty about it. I didn't overeat because I'm getting more
used to what it is supposed to feel like, to
feel normal instead of overly full. This is coming from
someone that actually came into our program eating out all
the time, so this is a big.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Big deal for her, okay, which is pretty cool. Yeah, yeah,
I love that.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Yeah that's what I got so far. So maybe try it.
I don't know, I think it's a good lesson to learn.
I think a lot of people just rely too much
on eating out and drive.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
Throughs venience foods.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yeah, make your meals at home for once, prep plan
and don't make it hard on yourself. But you know,
I think just ready.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
People get prepping like meal prepping wrong because they think
it needs to be some big extravagant thing, like I
gotta have five meals six meals out perfectly prepared. Yeah,
they've all got to be nutritious, right, right, you need
to simplify it and make it easy.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Oh yeah, seriously, seriously prep right, Yeah. I always I.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Get my chicken in the beginning of the week. I
shred it right now. I'm just shredding a bunch of
chicken with branch seasoning and salsa, and I have that
all week for my salads, literally all I don't have
to think about it. And then I cut pre cut
veggies and my veggiechopper I got from Amazon, I have
that ready and I just put that on top of
my greens you know, you just that's that's ready. And
then like everything else, my dinner protein prep is already ready.
(48:04):
My grilled vegetables for dinner are made in the beginning
of the week. You just have to just make a
bunch of it, and when you want what you need,
you get it out of the fridge and you heat
it up.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Mm hmm exactly.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
It could it could be different, but you still have
all the things made so you can mix and match
what you want to eat.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Yeah, Like I guess I tell those like found Foundational
Foods always have those. Yeah, those things that make your
life easier and you it doesn't need to be Sunday evening.
You don't have to dedicate an entire Sunday to meal prep. No, no,
you can either literally, like when I to do meal
prep and prepare meals, I don't even prepare meals usually,
(48:41):
I just make more when I'm you know, already eating,
or I'll do a midweek prep as well, like I'll
do a midweek protein source prep.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
You almost always got like steamable.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Veggies on standby to throw into and yeah, yeah, steamable veggies,
steamabile rice.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
I think I've been seeing you use like the micrave
rice right like so yeah minute rice, like use it.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
And it's you're worried about tracking your calories with rice,
because that's another question. Get the single serving cups. That's
all you got to do. You don't have to worry
about it. You just nuke it for one minute.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
What's what's the worry about tracking rice? How do I
wait dry? Do I wait it cooked?
Speaker 2 (49:16):
Because people make big batches of it.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
That is one of the biggest barriers that I do
here is I don't know how to track my meals
that I'm making. I don't know And then they don't
track them, right, so they just don't do it. So
we just because we don't know how, we're not going
to do it. That doesn't compute. Can you imagine like
babies don't know how to fucking walk at first, but
they fucking figure it out.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Your child is in school, right and they come the
teacher sons him home. Your son just didn't want to
do it because he didn't know how.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
What would you say, like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (49:44):
What the fuck are you doing? Tell yourself that what
the fuck are you doing? Come on, you're an adult.
Be an adult and learn a new thing.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
Okay, Yes, absolutely, learning is awesome. I love learning something
new every day, one thing every day, Like challenge yourself. Yeah,
especially if you know that it may be your ticket.
It may be your ticket, right.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
I remember, I'll never forget when Jordan saiw it was
like are you weighing and measuring your food and grams
on a food scale? And I was like, no, should
I be? Because I was like frustrated?
Speaker 3 (50:14):
I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
He's like, yeah, how do you know what portions you're using?
I was like, oh, And you know, that was a
fucking game changer for me and I wish before I
would have known that fucking years ago, because you know,
you know what I mean her, I'm like, I'm eating
so much healthy brown rice and so much healthy avocado,
and yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Just because it's a quote unquote healthy food doesn't mean
that it's not gonna make you fat. I guess, right,
if you're eating too much of it, right, that's what
I hear. Lit is where I guess I'm going with
this is, Oh, I'm eating I'm eating healthy, eating clean,
meeting clean, but I'm not losing fats. I'm not losing
weight while you're still eating too much of it. Then
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
Yeah, it doesn't matter if you.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
Need nothing but fruits, vegetables and fucking dry ass chicken breast, Yeah,
you can eat too much of it and you'll still
get fat.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
That's what you got to ask yourself.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
It's like, I'm doing all these things, but I'm not
losing any thought, Well, take a look at your nutrition
and what are you not tracking? What do you what
are you doing that you know you shouldn't be doing?
Like there's always something right, always something we like to ask, like,
what is something that you're doing really well? And what
is something that you know you can work on. Mm hmm, Okay,
(51:22):
I know I can work on my bipe's nicked lips,
licks and tastes.
Speaker 3 (51:25):
Okay, most people can mm hmmm those a little dlts.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Yeah, yeah, I like that, which I have to catch myself.
In the beginning of this whole prep, I started coming
close to licking the fucking.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
Spoons and it's easy.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Just fucking did dab and fucking you know, and it's
like it's really like an impulse thing where you have
to fucking like it's almost like, okay, you know, right,
one of those things.
Speaker 3 (51:51):
You gotta yeah, you gotta take yourself off that automatic pilot.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
You have to be aware. Yeah, that's what it is.
A lot of us are on autopilot. We don't really understand,
we don't really know what we're doing. And that's why
a lot of the times coaches shine that flashlight to
see see show you things that you may not have seen.
Speaker 3 (52:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
I think we just said this with Renee last week.
Is like the first step of change is awareness. Awareness
isn't a bad thing, and that's where tracking your calories
for an x amount of time when you're starting out
can be very, very beneficial because and that's that means
everything too.
Speaker 3 (52:25):
You know.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
I challenged a client a couple of weekends ago. She
didn't track her alcohol on the weekend when she was
out with her friends and stuff. I was like, why
not you had it? Yeah, you or you crushed your
week you know, so next time you do go it
didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Matt's why.
Speaker 3 (52:42):
That's why I said.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
I was like, it still happened. Now we're trying to
act like it didn't happen. So now you're creating that
guilt shame cycle too on top of that. So no,
so I like, next time you drink, track the fucking alcohol.
Be mindful of it, but track it. And she came
back to me she didn't plan on having some drinks,
but she had a couple drinks with her mom, I
think or something, and she's like, I tracked this. I'm like, yeah,
(53:04):
Now we're now we're cooking because now we're starting.
Speaker 3 (53:06):
To creating awareness exactly.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Yeah, now we're realizing like I didn't actually have three glasses,
I had six, and that doubled my calories, right, that
took me out of.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
My calorie depth. Sit.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
We don't want to Yeah, we just don't. We just
don't want to be confronted with that either.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
No, I mean, fucking I know all about that. I mean,
queen up. No, I only had a couple. Are you
kidding me?
Speaker 3 (53:27):
Right? Everybody knows what a couple means.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yeah, a couple you mean like a half fucking six
pack of twisted teas?
Speaker 3 (53:34):
Yes, yeah, that's that was my thing.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
That was before the tru lys and all the fucking
the fun drinks they have now. That was like the
twisted tea chick in the summer.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
Oh got it? Oh yeah, I never got into twisted
Oh my god, heartburn.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
I went hard on the Uh. The truly's there for
a while. The White Claws when they came out, you know,
that's them when they first came out. But that, thankfully
I'm far removed from that ship now.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
Yeah, well damn. We just went and we went at
this for an hour. We didn't have any talking.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
Points for today, guys.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
We just we always have good conversations, so, I know, right,
good points then. So so to recap here, we have
our meet and greet coming up July twelfth and San
Diego RSVP with the Lincoln in the comment or not
the link in the comments.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
Please come if you're in the area. See is a
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Speaker 3 (54:30):
That's by a lot of stuff. So come.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
Yeah, Tom, we want to see you. Let's hang out
to have fun, do some cool things together. Get the
community involved. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
I love.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
That's why these these meet and greets. People getting to
know each other, meeting each other. Yeah, like what happened
in the last one. You know, everybody was talking about
doing the five K and stuff together, so exactly ship
all right, good, good stapping point yeah yeah cool.
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You know, it didn't happen, Matt, that's why.
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Speaker 2 (02:01):
We're doing it. Today's a good day. It's the sun
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Speaker 3 (02:05):
I got some sun out there in mazing.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yes, yesterday and today, and then it's going away again.
So I have been enjoying as much as I can,
you know, and then we're going to get rain Thursday, Friday,
Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Dude, this weather, What the fuck? How's the weather in Ohio.
It's been very very all over the place.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yeah, yeah today. I went on on a run this
morning and it was threatening with rain. I think we're
supposed to get rain. It still feels like early spring.
It doesn't feel like like we just had Memorial Day,
the official kickoff the summer.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
In fact, what's crazy is my husband just started working
on the pool because you know, obviously it's fucking the
mess over the winter, and last year I was looking
at memories and the kids were in the pool before
Memorial weekend, no kidding. And it's not even ready yet
right now. It's so fucking cold.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I mean, I'm wearing a sweater here today. I've been
wearing the sweaters for weeks. We had like a blast
of I think a couple of days where it was
like eighty five degrees there. Yeah, then it dropped again
and got down to forties again.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
It's depressing, to be honest. Yeah, I'm fucking ready for
it to be over. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I need the sun, I need the warmth. It really
does something for my mood, my energy. I mean I
could feel it for sure.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
The other day when I was on my run, I
started when it was real gloomy outside, but as I
was running, because I went on a longer run, so
I kept finding like little patches of sun were poking
through and I would just stop my run and I
was just there like with my arms extended, like, oh right,
this feels amazing, you know, having the right.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Sun on your face. It is. It really is. Yeah,
mood booster absolutely.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
So what's else going on? What else is going on?
I feel like I would talk to you forever, Matt.
It's been m I A.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I don't know if I've been am I A but not.
There's something bruined.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I don't know what's going on, but that has been
I don't know what the word is.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I don't know what the word is, but I guess reserved.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I guess I've been taking So first of all, I've
been taking some more downtime from like social media.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, well that's like probably one of the biggest things
you notice, and probably a lot of people listening right now,
is like I'm not very active on stories. I want
to get back on posting on stories today. Yeah, I've
just been taking more intentional downtime from my phone, especially
on the weekends and things like that. I found myself
looking and just doom scrolling and things like that. So
I had to nip that in the bud for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Okay, nice.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, but also like a lot of changes in my
life right now too, so there's been more stress and
things like that as well. We could talk about that, perhaps,
you know, some of the changes I've got going on
in my life.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Do you want to?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I mean sure, I mean what my clients suggests is, like, Matt,
this might be a good topic for you, like how
change is inevitable.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
It is, it is, changes is always happening, and I
think it's good for you to talk about what's going
on with you and pluting it out there.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
You know, well, so I've been pivoting, I guess in
a way with my with coaching at but I've been
making some changes behind the scenes and also now at
the front of the scenes with my coaching and changing
the way that we've been doing our coaching. And this
has been also been working on this for a while now.
The last year plus stopped putting more of a focus
(05:14):
on like one on one coaching, and I was trying
and I've been working on building out like group coaching
with our fIF fat Strong strength training program and cardio
with running, and then like our mindful eating program. So
the result of that is, you know, essentially where I'm
at now is we're getting to a point where it's
no longer a bit like a coaching business.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I guess that you should say that coaching business.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
But some of my coaches are leaving, right, So there's
no easy way to say that, and it's it's not
a bad thing, it's not.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
It's just this is where the current season of life is.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
So that's kind of you know, what I've been working
on as well behind the scenes is this transitional period.
So I've been really focusing more so on like clients
and working with clients, and for me, that's that's fucking
where it's that for me is.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, and it's still a coaching business. It's Matt bandliars wrong.
I mean, you know what I'm saying, I'm like, that's
do you're yes, you know, I was like, wait a minute,
but no, you're still a coach and you still what
you do.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
You do what you do and you do it really well.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, of course, yeah, you're just you're pivoting, that's all
You're You're still fit, that strong, Matt. Yeah, it's just
a little less people.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yes, like nothing is changing, like with my coaching my business, right,
I should say that, you know still Yeah, just I
have more of an emphasis on the group coaching because
that's that one thing that I have.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Learned over this last year.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
If that's strong, is I fucking missed coaching so bad
and being hands on with our clients.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Because for a couple of years they're just like yourself, nerdle.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
As I was growing my business, I had to take
a step away from coaching, and I really fucking missed coaching.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, because they're good.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I mean yeah, I feel the same way with and
that's why I love doing these challenges. I do, like
you know, four times a year, and it recharges my batteries.
I fucking love getting immersed in this. You know, twenty
eight days and doing the zoom calls and answering questions
every day. It's I it fuels me. So I totally
understand our Yeah, totally totally agree.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
It's just so rewarding. It is so fucking rewarding.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, that's why you got into it.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yes, That's why I got into it.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
So I'm getting getting back to that essentially, yeah, you know,
and supporting our clients, working with you know, limited number
one on one clients.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Myself and me and mel are.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Still here too, right, So yeah, we're putting a big
focus on mindful eating. I've always had the mindful eating,
but this is really where I'm what where my passions
lie as well as with mindful eating. Yeah, and taking
that approach to like nutrition and behavior change.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
So yeah, that's so there's a lot of a lot
of those changes and that have been working been been
we've been working on for a while, are just coming
to fruition now.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Right, So you're going through different You're You're like, there's
probably like changing systems and I'm sure there's a lot
like to navigate. Yeah that way as well, there's just
a it's just a lot to do, I guess I
don't know, Yeah, for sure, A lot to think about, right,
A lot.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
To think about yeah, yeah, yeah, because hears me, I
want to do right by everybody too, you know, I
want to deal with the best thing for everybody, so
which is hard. Sometimes it's hard when you try to
help everybody almost help you.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I've learned that you really can't.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
There's going always going to be somebody that's going to
be upset, but you know, just do the best you can.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
And like you said, you.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
What is the word I'm trying to look for, Like
you are a person of integrity and so that's all
I can see you being. You know, you know what
I mean. So that's what I guess I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, yeah, And I appreciate you. You know you always
check in on me.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So oh yeah, I'm like, I haven't heard from nerd all.
I'm like in a fucking Boston.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I do an arrow? You doing an arrow? What's up?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Good morning?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
How are you fucking knowing by me?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
But I feel like sometimes you know what, you just
need to check in on your fucking friends. I don't know,
I just I know you. I'm just gonna keeps making
sure he's okay, checking in. Yeah, is if I don't
hear from you, I'm like, there's something going on with
my nerdle over there.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
He's fucking doing something, stirring thinking, thinking, or just doing it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
A lot of the times I'm just doing recently too.
So that's what finding that balance is doing and resting
and everything too.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Right, Yeah, it's hard to figure that out.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
It is. It is.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
And like my clients have been, you know, showing a
lot of support for the changes that are going on
to and my one client, Amy was like, mad, this
could be, like, like you, something you could talk about
on the podcast about how change is inevitable and change
necessarily bad thing.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Change is a good thing, you know. Yeah, And I
think change is scary change.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
There's a lot of course, and that's as it pertains
to especially like for our listeners and our clients, like
a health and wellness journey, change is fucking scary because
there's a lot of unknowns, there's a lot of variables
that you don't have to troll of necessarily.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Right, And I'll take it on another perspective in the
health and wellness area, this is a big change for you,
And did you find yourself over eating, emotionally eating and
that aspect. Did you stop like exercising, because when things
are hard for people, certain people, you know, they just
stop taking care of themselves, like, oh my gosh, change
is happening.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
It's so scary. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I'm just going to stop right now until it feels okay. Yeah,
because there's o't enough you want to talk about that,
talk about it in which way about how like for myself.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Or yeah, yeah, well I'm actually the opposite where I'm
not like an emotional eater or stress eater. More so,
I'm a stress non eater. Though I have to be
very very intentional, very mindful to make sure I'm fueling
my body and giving it the nourishment.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
That it fucking needs.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, because if we're not nourishing our bodies, that's going
to be a recipe for disaster in terms of you know,
managing our stress and our yeah big sea word, cortisol
and all these other things just.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Our health too, you know. Yeah. So yeah, right now,
strength training is not up to where I would like
it to be. Right now.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
One to two times a week right now is what
I'm doing with strength training. But I'm still maintaining my
daily walks, still doing my running. I have decided I
don't think I was going to train for a marathon
in September.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I don't think I'm going to do that right now.
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I can't add that volume of training that would be
fighting against like my time, and.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
It's an investment.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
It's a big going from a half marathon training, I
can Yeah, I could continue doing half marathons forever probably
because right yeah, not.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
A huge time commitment. That's like, yeah, three or four
hours a week in it's a full time job. Think
about it's like thirty hours a week of running.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I mean, because I did it, and so I just remember,
I'm like, my life evolved around Okay, what time can
I fit my fucking seven mile run in? And you know,
they're not like short runs, they're like all right, this
day is like fifteen, you know, the next is like nine.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
It's like okay, you literally becomes an issue. Yeah, it's
it's job, and that's your focus.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Kind of like this bikini prep I'm doing right now,
but because it is, it is purely my focus right now,
except it doesn't consume my time and the fact that
I have to be out and out for two to
three hours, you know, mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, So that's that's not something I want to add
onto my plate right now. So what I'm going to
continue doing though, I was going to continue running and
continue to strengthening my body and maintaining my cardio and
building my cardio base up for sure, but more importantly
have fucking fun with it.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I really enjoyed having the half marathon training as because
the half marathon training block I just went there was
rellion times. I had never been that so dialed in.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Really, that's awesome like that.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
And I know what it would take to get up
to do the marathon as well. So just listening and
meeting myself where I'm at and recognizing that that's not
best for me right now. Yeah, but I am looking
forward to continue running and and the fun, the fun
things I love about running. Yeah, running, especially with this
time of year.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
We got our San Diego trip coming up. Yeah yeah,
that's gonna be here quickly. I know.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Do you know how many reserves we have or RSVPs?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I don't. I could look it up while we're talking.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Last time I checked, it was like three that was,
and that was when we had first posted the link.
Holy shit, fourteen okay, damn, all right, we've got fourteen
people are speapeed to it, so let's go nice.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Uh huh uh huh. Amy. I see Amy Carlyn on there.
I'm so excited to meet her, you know, finally, right,
see Keisha on there, Hey Keisha. Yeah, that's that's gonna
be here soon.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
July twelfth, eight am. Tory Pines. My fucking god, what
is I I never remember our hikes.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Tory Pine's Beach and Broken Hill Loop in the nice.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, so that'll that'll be here soon. So we're looking
forward to seeing the big group there.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah. So if you're listening, if you're listening, you're like,
how can I go? Just go?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
We put the link in our notes in our show
notes the last couple of weeks now, so.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Eating great hike. Anybody is welcome at three point one
miles easy.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, that's the goal, right for doing these things. Yes,
I'm easier so that everybody can do it. I know
a couple of the one we did in Oregon was
a little not not so easy, but.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, that wasn't We didn't expect it to.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Be like that.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Though, but everybody crushed it still, I know, for reals
crushed it still for reals, and that's what matters.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Absolutely, what else do we have going on? I don't
really have much other than that coming up, to be honest,
because I trying to make sure that during this prep
that I'm not traveling a million times.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Right, totally. How's your bikini prep coming?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I just got done with a four day refeed, which
is was fucking phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I mean nice four days. Yeah, pump in some calories
and carbs in. Do you two hundred grams of carbs? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
And I felt like a new person. I was like,
holy shit, that we're back down a little bit smaller
than I was before. Not too much, like twenty five calories, okay,
but it's a little smaller. So we're gonna go a
little bit smaller, uh for the next four days, and
I have another so I'll have another high calorie day
every four days now instead of every five.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Oh that's fun.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah, So I'm just going with the flow.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I'm just one apparently like I'm doing pretty well because
I've been consistent. So you kind of you know when
you're when you do really well, it's not like you
get rewarded, but you're allowed more calories. Right, It's like, Okay,
we're seeing a lot of progress because the photos, the
measurements everything. It's like, okay, so we she could she
could use like some more calories. It's it's fucking cool.
(15:50):
So it just do what your fucking coach tells you.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
And you know what I'm saying, It's like, that's why
you hire a coach farction.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Results, motivation, and so you know, once you start to
see that, it's really fucking hard, trust me, right, But
now I'm starting to see results and the rewards from
all the fucking literal hard work that I've been doing,
and that is motivating within itself. So that helps continue
the process because it's like, yes, if I keep putting
in the work, you do see results. But you just
(16:18):
have to keep putting in the work. That's what people
tend to forget. They just they think that it should
be happening fast enough, faster, or it's not happening fast enough.
I'm not seeing anything. It's like, you just need to
be consistent and patient and you will as well as
I think. I also want to talk about the fact
that a lot of people think they should look a
(16:41):
certain way since they've been dieting, and a lot of
people don't understand that toning. Right. If someone looks at me,
they're like, you've had a lot of progress in the
past month. It's because I've built my foundation already, right,
Like I've been straying training for seven plus years, and
this last year we've really been focusing on this prep.
(17:01):
So that is why not every person that you've never
strength trained before, you're not going to ultimately see the
body that you want right away. Yeah, you know, and
I think a lot of people go into this thinking
that they're going to look a certain way after dieting,
but it's a whole fucking process of years of strength training.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, you put on that muscle, you don't have that foundation,
and you're trying to get toned. When you die it down,
you're just going to be a skinnier version of your
current body.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Is y.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yes, And I hear that a lot when people like,
you know, I don't need to lose any fat, I
just don't. I don't look like the way I want.
It's because you haven't been in the gym.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Because you're under muscled, correct, Yeah, which is a real
fucking problem in the society.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
It really is, especially like in our.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Demographic, which is large mostly women, right women, Yeah, fifty
sixty you know, things like that, They've been targeted these
toning workouts. I know, the lightweight workouts, the purple pink weights,
the one pound two pound weights. We're flinging them around
and high intensity with no control and things like that,
because we want to get toned. We don't want to
(18:09):
buff up. We don't want to get too big.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
We just want to be It's hard to get too big. No,
no woman is.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Going to accidentally get too big in the gym, and
men aren't going to get too accidentally too big in
the gym either.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Like, it doesn't fucking happen.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
You're trying to get accidentally big for fucking eight years now, right,
And I'm just like still, like Jesus fuck man, I
could I could still use more muscle for buck's sakes.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Sure, you know what I'm saying, Oh my gosh, Yeah,
it's muscles like a bank account.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, you want to start depositing, making deposits into that
as early in life as possible and as often as possible,
so you can reap the benefits of the long term interest,
right of having that that big muscle bank built up.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, muscle bank. I like that.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, so that when you do, like, okay, I want
to change my body, I'm primed and ready to go
constantly going from one diet to another a negg right
yo yo dieting that same twenty pounds, you're just every
time becoming a weaker, skinnier version of your current self essentially. Yeah,
And I say skinny in the context of like, sure,
(19:17):
you'll lose some weight, but you know along with some
of that weight, it's going to be muscle mass, right,
And that's not what we want here, And.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
That's not always healthy. Like we talked about I think
was it last week. You know, you can have a
thin body and still be unhealthy. You could still be
pre diabetic, you can, yeah, because you're under muscled.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Because you're under muscled.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
That's really especially with type two diabetes. That's usually what
type two diabetes is. It's too much body fat with
not enough muscle mass at very high level, right, very
high level. And if you're a woman and you're and
I just got done training, I meanbe we could spend
a little bit of time talking about menopause and as
(19:56):
a refreshing Yeah, huh, since you're going through the fucking
things right now. I just did a kind of an
impromptu menopause talk with our clients and like a Q
and A and just shareing people sharing their experiences because
we've got people that have gone through menopause now for
ten twenty years, and there's people that are going through
it right now and are struggling, and so it's like
there's a like things you can do, things that are
(20:18):
going to help, and things like that. But where I
was going with that is as you're you know, your
estrogen's reducing, You're you're going to be more instantly resistance
is going to be increasing as well, So you definitely
need to be more intentional with your strength training to
make sure you have that muscle bank built up, and
also dial into your nutrition too, like you are right now.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, absolutely one hundred percent. And you know, even like
while going through this bikini Prep two at fifty two,
it also it just proves that it really is consistency
and calorie deficit and making sure that you have a
handle on your symptoms right like I don't. I don't
have any symptoms currently I sleep very well. I don't
(21:02):
have any night sweats. I honestly, I don't have any anxiety.
I'm doing pretty well at this moment, and so I've
been able to be super consistent like I without you know,
the fact that I've been a little bit tired because
of lower calories, but I'm still getting shit done. I'm
still doing the thing even when I don't want to
do it. And so I just want every menopausal woman
to know that it really just fucking comes down to
(21:23):
you mastering those boring basics and being consistent honestly, and
getting a whole handle on your symptoms. That may that's
what's making it harder for you to stick to your
deficit and get control of the alcohol. You know, honestly,
you complain about your menopausal symptoms, but you don't know
how to put down the drink. We have a lot
of clients that are struggling with this right now, and
(21:44):
it fucking breaks my heart. You know, it's alcohol. Is
shouldn't be so important that you're not taking care of yourself.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Right, And two things that are super super important for
everybody but are even more important going through menopause are
stress management. Right, Yes, alcohol it directly impacts both of
those things. Yeah, that big C word cortisol, right gets
impacted by alcohol and poor sleep.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Mm hmm. The alcohol doesn't actually.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Help with stress, right, No, no, it makes it worse
that moment, maybe in that moment, but after. And that
can also help with where you're storing body fat too, yeah, wow,
right when you're drinking alcohol that if you're in a
caloric surplus, alcohol a loan isn't going to make you
gain body fat. But if you're in a coloric surplus
(22:37):
and not controlling your calories, then that increases the likelihood
that your body fat gets stored in your belly.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
And your Yeah, and that you're drinking. So you got
the belvetere bloat and you got the menopausal body fat
deposit in different areas. So it's like double lammie, yeah,
double belly. I you know, unfortunately, and I can tell
if I'm walking anywhere and I see someone a woman
that has kind of like a reddish face and a
(23:04):
really big belly that they're drinkers, It's like you immediately
know they're menopausal on their drinking.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Drinker that's got a very distinct look is like that.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
You know, if you've been drinking. Your belly is pretty profound,
and that's got to be uncomfortable, to be honest.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
So you mentioned that you're not really having many issues
with like sleep and things like that right now, but
that hasn't always been the case for you. If we remember,
like maybe just a couple of like a year or
two ago on this one.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yeah, like two years.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, I think it's been two years in April since
I've been on birth control. When I was going through
a phase where I had a ton of hot flashes
and I was sleeping like absolute trash, Yeah, fucking trash.
And it was in Florida twenty twenty two if I'm correct,
twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three, when I just
was sweating all the time. It's fucking and shitty sleep. Yeah,
(23:50):
And that affected my moods apparently, you know, obviously. And
so I went to my doctor and she decided to
put me on birth control and not h yet, and
she said, at some point you will be on HRT.
Well let's start you with this. And it's been working,
I have to say, other than some mood swings and
brain fog, you know, I take that back. I have
(24:11):
massive brain fog. But that to me is like the
least of my fucking worries that.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
That's one thing that our clients were kind of sharing
in the college, is like the brain fog is there
an that's horrible?
Speaker 3 (24:21):
That's been helpful for that.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
No, And you know I've been I've been taking creatine
for a few years now, so I don't even know, Like,
could my brain fog be worse?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I don't know. Do you know what I'm saying? So
creatine helps with our cognitive abilities, right, yeah? Yeah, so proll.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I know, maybe I am doing pretty well comparative to
what I would have been.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I couldn't tell you the best menopause chronicles have been.
You've been living them on the podcast for the past
couple of years, so I guess I have. I can,
I can recall it. We've had many conversations. That's usually
when we start our podcast. It's always, you know, not always,
but a lot of times it was about you know,
your own your hot flashes, your poor m why and
things like that.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
And for all I know, I might even be postmenopausal.
I don't know, because I am on a birth control
that I continually take, so I never get a period.
And maybe that's why I feel pretty good.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, And also I think people need to understand that
menopause is just one year. Actually it's just one day,
one day, So it's when you go a full year
without a period. So you can't be in menopause for
ten years. It's impossible. You can be a perimenopause for
ten years, which is when it starts near could be
late thirties, early forties, start to get little symptoms here
and there.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
That leads into.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Menopause, which is going without a period for a full year.
And so once you've done that, you're now postmenopause. So
menopause is literally a blip of a fucking moment the day, right, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
A menopause days.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
So you guys know, you got to stop saying you've
been menopause for ten years because it's it's been impossible.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I do the same thing though, Yes, I.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Just shouted out the podcast we did with the Menopause
dial Latees actually with our clients, because they were the
ones that told us that, right, or maybe that I
didn't know that already. It was just really just one
day for menopause. But I know our clients. They were like,
what I know, right, I've been I've been a menopause
for X amount of years and I've been struggling.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Well, it's perry. Menopause is where most people I mean
semantics perhaps, but I know it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Really fucking either way. It sucks and apparently, you know,
some people will still have lingering symptoms after in post menopause.
And I've I got to finish my menopause specialist course
right here. I'm like on chapter fucking twelve. But honestly,
it's everything that I'm learning is everything that I already know.
And I think that's why I've been delaying it, because
(26:42):
it really is I just need to get it done. Yeah,
I haven't really learned anything new.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Now why is that bad? Why? Because why is it?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
It's really the boring basics. It's really the foundations, right,
Like they talk about fiber and digestive health and protein
and strength training. I mean everything that I already know, right,
and you know how everyone has a different menopausal experience,
but really it's really about supporting, you know. And yeah,
(27:17):
and you know what else like pelvic floor health, you know,
because you know, things do happen like urinary track, bladder,
reproductive organs, they drop.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
You know, things get a little weird that.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Way, But other than that, it is the boring basics. Matt.
So when you hear people talk crazy shit on the
internet about menopause, which has been going on lately with
like the big wigs, you know, like fucking what's her name,
Stacy Simms and Mary Claire haveer they'd love their rat studies.
They love their rat studies, and they love ah that
(27:52):
calories in, calories out is different from women. Yeah, now
the people are getting pissed. We're talking the science. They're
getting pissed now. And we're seeing people that don't ever
call out people call out people like, uh, you know
the powerlifting dietician. He doesn't ever do any things like that,
and he he made a whole post about her and
(28:13):
how he's like, can't stand she's not basing her facts
off science at all, and she's making women feel broken
for no fucking reason.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Mm hmmmmm.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
It's it's absolutely fucking bullshit to be honest, and people
like like well idolize people like Stcy Simms, They idolize
people like doctor Marie Claire, and these women are using
their authority for Missy, they're misusing their authorities.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
It's an appeal to authority. And that's that. Yes, that's
the logical policy. It's fucking it's wild.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
And the fact that doctor Mary Claire can get away
with a supplement line of things that you can get
at fucking on Amazon or Walmart. You need to take fiber,
here's my fiber. You need to take vitamin D, here's
my vitamin. You need to take creatine, here's my creatine.
It's called like the pause or something. It's like, go
(29:05):
fuck yourself. You're monetizing your fucking audience when you know
you upped the price of this shit like fifty percent.
They can go to fucking Walmart and get the same
fucking thing. Yes, I can't stand that.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Right, which those are good supplements right for anybody? Yeah,
that's exactly like creatine are awesome supplements, but you can
recommend them.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
You don't need to start a fucking supplement line and
completely shyst your audience, knowing that that you have them
hook line and sinker and they will listen to anything
you fucking say. That's where I'm It's like you're you're
a piece of shit.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Does Mary mary Claire still promote inter manifesting as like
the end I'll be off.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
I'm sure that's one of her books.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
It's her diet, the Galveston Diet, I think is what.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, she even has her own way to best now
I believe really like, if you catch me with a
doctor Mary Claire waited best fucking just literally drag me
by my fucking hands down the street and put me
in a ditch. Okay, thank you ever, throw and throw
(30:14):
you yes, just be done.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah, you're You're exactly right. It's and it's so it's
so easy to see. It's so easy to see. Yeah,
and what's that is like?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
And then it's like the people like us, they're like,
she's a dots here and you don't know what you're
talking about. It's like you don't find go buy her supplements,
her weighted best and listen to her fucking bitch and
cry that she didn't get on the fucking New York
Times bestseller list. That's your girl, Go for it, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
It actually happened, It did it did.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
And a friend of ours that we know I'm not
going to name names sent me the video three like
a few years ago when it happened, She's like, look
at this shit, because I already blocked her. You know,
she's been blocked since like twenty twenty. And so she
screenshot the recording and so to me, and I was like,
are you shitting me right now? Yeah, she was in
her fucking bed, made an Instagram story crying about how
(31:08):
she did not make the New York Times bestseller list.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Wow, to tell show people where your priorities are. Uh huh,
that's a big red flag.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Yeah. Super.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
And then when she went uh it really started with
for me with her when she went after my friend
Kim Schlog, which we she she's been on this podcast.
And I don't know if you remember when that whole
thing went out around where she was saying that you
you don't it doesn't a calorie deficit will not get
rid of visceral fat. Do you remember that?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
And then so my friend Kim, my friend.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Kim did a video and said the only way to
get rid of any fat is to be in a
calorie deficit. That's how this works, right, And and Mary
Claire like went after her so hard, she had all
her followers go after.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Kim like she Kim's got a big she's got a
big following. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
And then so it was so bad that Kim actually
got off TikTok and that was the end of TikTok
for her. It was so bad the way the way
this woman like went after her about something that was
actually Kim was right about.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Mm hm m hm. That's that's this gross. It was gross. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
And so since then, I'm like, I don't like you.
And this was before all of it.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
So I am finding this is not necessarily related to menopause,
but but definitely fat loss. I'm finding that fat loss
is becoming more and more complicated and more and more confusing.
And I didn't know that was possible because we've been
doing it.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I want to just give an example here. I reposted
what an old video of mine recently. I remember this
video you wrote, you know, science with doctor Stacey.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
I think her name is Shit. I'm gonna go look
the video up really quickly, but it's the video is
where does your fat go when you lose it? Yes?
I remember? Okay, So what are people saying? Oh?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
I reposted that video because it was it popped up
in my memories. I posted it just on Facebook exclusively.
And Facebook is a kind of a cess pool sometimes
for nutrition and fallous information. Right, there's just so much misinformation.
God yeah, the reality the video was where does falla?
Where does fat go when you burn it? In quotations? Right,
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And I'm gonna I'm going to clarify this by saying,
you don't Your fat cells don't go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Right.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Fat cells will either shrink when if you're in a
calorie deficit, or they will expand if you're in a
cleric surplus. Your fat cells never go away once you
acquire them. You can get new fat cells over the
course of your life, but once they're there, they're always there,
unless you fucking get liposuction or something. But the moral
of the story was you breathe out the fat, right,
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Like eighty percent of all fat that you lose exits
your body via your lungs in the form of carbon dioxide.
And right, because fat, it's gout water for sure, So
like we sweat it out and we pee it out too,
but it's not as much as people think. And this
is the argument people are having. They're like, you don't
breathe it out, you pee it out, You poop it
out like when you poop out the food. You're not
pooping out like fat cells. Like, sure, you're peeing out
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the water that's getting broken down in the fat when
it shrinks. But also that carbon that's being released you
gotta go somewhere right right, it gets exit, It leaves
your body in the form of carbon dioxide via your lung.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
So you're breathing. You're literally breathing your fat out.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
That's like energy in energy out, yes, because calories are
essentially energy.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yes, right, carbon is energy, yeah right right, carbon beings,
we eat carbon, We are made of carbon. That is
an energy currency. You know, people are just arguing it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Really, what are they saying? How can I argue with that?
Just telling you that it comes out of your ass
and you pee it out.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah, Like so you're saying all I have to do? Well,
they're like, all are you saying? All you All I
have to do is breathe faster, hyperventilate, Like.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
People need to use their brains.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Like you need to still be in a calorie deficit.
This is what happens when you lose the fats, right,
you still need to get in a calorie deficit to
trigger this. This mechanism in your body and then this
is what happens after that. You can't even try to
simplify things because that video was very, very simplified, and
she even said that in her video, like, now, yes,
I'm over simplifying things, but this is how it works
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simplifying things. You're not like like, yeah, she literally said
that in the video.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Because if she didn't, you still wouldn't understand.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Right, Yeah, As science communicators, we need to are you smart?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Are you smarter than a sixth grader?
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I mean that's the reality, right, is when you're talking
about scientific things like fat loss and calorie devsits, you
need to break it down in a way that everybody
can understand.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
You do.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
And that's why me and Matt don't talk like we're
fucking a scientist.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
We're not.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
But you wouldn't catch me I talk to you guys.
I would talk to my son, Yeah, and he still
wouldn't understand.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
And that's not to like patronize anybody, right, It's just
we need to understand these simple basic concepts.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
If you don't need to know, you don't need know
about the modychondria of the fucking cell and ship. You know,
what I'm saying, you don't. You just need to know that,
like what you need to do to be in a
calorie deficit. Once you go fucking farther than that, you're
in the weeds. Man, You're like fucking lost.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, you know that is when you start. That's when
you start getting sold supplements and all these other ships. Yes,
all the other things that you don't need. And you're
convincing because you're focused on your cortisol face or your
your menopause belly or whatever the fuck they're telling you
to do.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Get rid of those things, right, right, it's just crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
And here's and and the and the woman that posted
that video too is a PhD in microio, right, Like
the one woman is like, I'm a nurse, Like okay,
like what does that mean? Like this isn't the disparaged nurses,
but like the nurses. My god, I think it's a
very wide field too, Like what kind of a nurse
are you?
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Are you a fat lost nurse or something? You know,
like the.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Sorry, but this woman that literally does this for a living,
who has a PhD in this topic?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Right, there's so many Google doctors out there, you know,
Google University.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, Google university.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
This other woman was like, I don't if you need to,
if you need to listen to what other people are
telling you that from from college and you're stupid and
you don't know what you're talking about, Like I I
I am proof I know it because I'm doing it myself.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
It's like you're, yeah, I'm glad that's whatever you're doing
is working for you, but that you can't use that
to equates to the population, right, that's where we get
it so so fucking wrong.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Well worked for me, I'm glad. I'm glad it worked
for you.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yeah, I'm sorry, but you didn't poop your fat out either,
like you're trying to say.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
That's like saying, like, you know, my grandfather drank every
day and smoked every day and never got lung cancer
or liver cancer. Yeah, okay, how many fucking Uncle Clarences
are there?
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Not many? Okay? He is anomaly?
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yeah so yeah, so kind of like getting repping it
back to menopause. I suppose has there been any big
lessons learned for you about weight loss and menopause, like
especially right now with your bikini prep lart mostly.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Hm.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
No, it's just like I shouldn't say it's like any
other calorie depsite. It's just the steeper and I've been
more hungry and it's been more uncomfortable than I'm used to.
But other than that, and that's part of what I'm doing,
I think. But as for menopause, no, yeah, okay, no.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Just have to I mean, be more brutally consistent. Really
is the biggest thing. It really is an exercise and
strength training, and.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
More people need to be proactive than reactive. And I'm
so glad that I was proactive at forty two and
stopped drinking and start strength training and taking care of
myself because I really attribute that to how my menopause experience.
With the ups and downs that I did have. When
I did get help, it's been pretty smooth sailing, you know. Yeah,
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being proactive is key.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
The best time to get yourself ready for menopause is
earlier in life, the earlier lifefore.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
It happens, before it happens. Yeah, because think about it.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Think about if I would have, you know, just kept
doing what I was doing and drinking into my late forties.
Got I can't imagine I was like in the throes
of my night sweats and like double the anxiety. Imagine
along with drinking, right, imagine trying to get your shit
together that like during all that, right, you know, it's like,
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don't try to get your shit together in the ship storm.
You know, be prepared for the shit storm so it's
not as bad.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Prepare for the ship storm.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, well, yes, yes, don't because then it's going to
be immensely harder for you, obviously, because you are drinking
your metopausal, you're overweight, and you're you know, you're frustrated,
you're stressed.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
It's a lot harder to get a handle on things.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah, the best time to learn how to use a
fire extinguisher is not when everything's on fire around you.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Yeah, good analogy. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
That's like with any kind of skill, any any type
of tool that we're trying to build, because we're that's
what we're doing, right, is we're building out skills and
tool belts. Yeah, that's time to learn how to use
a tool is not when you need it. It's before it.
It's before you need it, because then when time comes,
you're like, oh, I've done.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
This before, mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
And it's more it's more automatic. You don't have to
fight against yourself as much. You don't have to get
yourself struggle as much.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, you got to get out of your own way.
You got to stop being so stubborn. You just fucking
do it. I feel like a lot of women are
just so stubborn and they're just stuck in their ways.
You know, you'd say that men are stuck in their ways.
I think women are too, I.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Mean, more human beings, I think.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
I think just human psychology is we don't want to change,
like changes.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
It's like, I think a lot of people are just
more comfortable with bitching about being uncomfortable rather than just
fucking doing the damn thing to get uncomfortable, because then
you have nothing.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
To bitch about. M damn. Yeah. You know.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
It's like a lot of people like to catastis their life.
And that was me when I was drinking. So maybe
if you're a drinker and you could tastrophize everything that
could be part of it. Everyone was against me, and
you know what I'm saying, It's like the drinking made
everything worse.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah, it's like dropping a match on an open gas can.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Yeah, h m hmm.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Really yeah, stop catastrophizing and searching for so many people
just keep searching for issues that'd be something wrong instead
of searching for solutions.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Solutions. Yeah, yeah, well the solution oriented well.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
If we if we're convinced that we have a problem,
that's that's not our fault and that that might sound harsh,
but you know that takes away like the responsibility in
a way to do that.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
And we talked about this so fucking much.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Yeah, and like for like solution oriented, I feel like
people like, let's say, because I did the I reposted
my pivot video today, it's like anything that happens right,
you don't think of a solution, you immediately catastrophize and
say fuck it, you know, like, oh, I left I
left my meal prep at home. Fuck it, I'm just
going to go to the drive through. And that's not
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a good analogy because that's that would be a situation
in which you may have to do that.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
So that was that was not correct. No, I mean
it could be because you don't have to go through
the drive through.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
True, true, true, true, But could any situation and you
don't you just you let it just everything go to ship.
You don't pivot, you don't like just do the next
right thing. You just roll over you know, yeah, exactly,
It's like instead of you know, you're thinking of a
solution for whatever issue you might have. Let's see, I
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don't fucking know, you didn't meal prep your food for
a night and you came home and you're hungry.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
You don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Well, maybe you have something in the fucking freezer like
you should have had already ready, Like you know you
have that emergency freezer stash.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
So I've got I've got car snacks, right, I keep
going backs and night glovebox for that.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Reason, And that's something I'm working on with with a
lot of my clients right now is the weekends, especially
so pre planning for the weekends. Yeah, a lot of
clients and I'm sure your clients are the same way.
Do great during the week but then it's the weekends
that they struggle with. It's because we're outside of our
normal routines. We maybe we're sleeping in a little bit longer,
we don't have to go to work, we don't have that, yeah,
(43:23):
and we're not planning for the weekend, so we just
were out of free for all of What am I
going to eat?
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Okay, Well, what do I have available?
Speaker 1 (43:29):
You know, well, I've got a muffet breakfast, and then
I've got I'll swing through and grab a burger through
the drive through and fries later, and then maybe I'll
do like a nutritious meal first something for dinner. And
then yeah, then it's like, well I ate healthy yesterday
because they think about this the dinner they had, you know.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Right, Yeah, we just pre planning. We just did a
challenge with our one on one clients for a week
Monday through Friday, where we had them do all their
make all their meals at home for five days, so
no drive through, no uber eats, no takeout, nothing. And
I want to read some of the things that people
say because a lot of people eat out a lot.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Yes, but we did an entire fucking podcast on it.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
We did, didn't we? So that was pretty interesting.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
And I also like eating fast food for most people,
like nobody needs to eat fast food. I'm going to
clarify this and say that nobody is making you eat
fast food. It's not by no means of necessity. But
if you are going to eat fast food, you could
still try to make it more nutritious. Yeah, And I
can give an example while you're looking up some of
these comments here. Okay, I think it was just last
(44:39):
week Sarah and I ordered Uber Eats. Okay, out here,
we ordered Uber Eats and we got Taco Bell, but
I got actually their chicken cantina bowl, which is only
I think it was like five hundred forty calories.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Uh huh, had vegetables.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
In it, it had beans, and it had some navocado
in it with the guacamole. Five hundred and forty calories,
and it had shreaded chicken in there. So it was
for fast food. That was a pretty macro friendly meal. Yeah,
instead of getting the Nacho's Bell Grande, I got the
canteena chicken bowl instead, right, So making a sensible swap
(45:13):
when you are in those situations is also fucking half
the battle.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Yeah, no, absolutely, well, I thought I just gonna go
get through it, right. Cool, we'll make a better choice
when you're going through drive through that exactly. Yep.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Okay, So I'm just going to say I'm just going
to read them. I'm not going to give names or anything.
So this challenge I learned that I can. I can
choose the harder option of prepping or planning, even when
the easier one is put right in front of me.
I can choose each day. It's not about one day,
It's about my overall mindset.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Yes, I love that.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
It's not about right, Okay, so this is from another one.
I learned that sometimes going through the drive through, even
if it's just to get a coke zero, is an
automatic thing. Sometimes I caught myself a couple of times thinking, oh,
I'm going here now without even really thinking about it,
if that makes sense. I also found that it saves
a lot of money, and it also say me anxiety
I feel around the tracking of these things. I honestly
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didn't miss it as much as I thought I would
because I would typically grab something once a week. Nice,
So that makes sense with the anxiety. A lot of
people have so much anxiety. I get a lot of
questions like how do I track when eating out? It's like, well,
if you didn't eat out so much, you wouldn't have
to fucking worry about it.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Right, If you're eating out once a month, it's probably
not something you need to worry about.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
Yeah, and you're probably not so stressed about it. But
now I'm coming to realize the people that are super
stressed are the ones that eat out all the time,
you know, So here's another one. What I learned from
this challenge is that eating from home is not that
hard and it pays dividends. I was able to eat
from home, nobody around me really cared, and I felt
good about accomplishing my week. So when I did want
(46:43):
to slice of pizza on a Friday, I didn't feel
guilty about it. I didn't overeat because I'm getting more
used to what it is supposed to feel like, to
feel normal instead of overly full. This is coming from
someone that actually came into our program eating out all
the time, so this is a big.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Big deal for her, okay, which is pretty cool. Yeah, yeah,
I love that.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Yeah that's what I got so far. So maybe try it.
I don't know, I think it's a good lesson to learn.
I think a lot of people just rely too much
on eating out and drive.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
Throughs venience foods.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yeah, make your meals at home for once, prep plan
and don't make it hard on yourself. But you know,
I think just ready.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
People get prepping like meal prepping wrong because they think
it needs to be some big extravagant thing, like I
gotta have five meals six meals out perfectly prepared. Yeah,
they've all got to be nutritious, right, right, you need
to simplify it and make it easy.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Oh yeah, seriously, seriously prep right, Yeah. I always I.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Get my chicken in the beginning of the week. I
shred it right now. I'm just shredding a bunch of
chicken with branch seasoning and salsa, and I have that
all week for my salads, literally all I don't have
to think about it. And then I cut pre cut
veggies and my veggiechopper I got from Amazon, I have
that ready and I just put that on top of
my greens you know, you just that's that's ready. And
then like everything else, my dinner protein prep is already ready.
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My grilled vegetables for dinner are made in the beginning
of the week. You just have to just make a
bunch of it, and when you want what you need,
you get it out of the fridge and you heat
it up.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Mm hmm exactly.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
It could it could be different, but you still have
all the things made so you can mix and match
what you want to eat.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Yeah, Like I guess I tell those like found Foundational
Foods always have those. Yeah, those things that make your
life easier and you it doesn't need to be Sunday evening.
You don't have to dedicate an entire Sunday to meal prep. No, no,
you can either literally, like when I to do meal
prep and prepare meals, I don't even prepare meals usually,
(48:41):
I just make more when I'm you know, already eating,
or I'll do a midweek prep as well, like I'll
do a midweek protein source prep.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
You almost always got like steamable.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Veggies on standby to throw into and yeah, yeah, steamable veggies,
steamabile rice.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
I think I've been seeing you use like the micrave
rice right like so yeah minute rice, like use it.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
And it's you're worried about tracking your calories with rice,
because that's another question. Get the single serving cups. That's
all you got to do. You don't have to worry
about it. You just nuke it for one minute.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
What's what's the worry about tracking rice? How do I
wait dry? Do I wait it cooked?
Speaker 2 (49:16):
Because people make big batches of it.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
That is one of the biggest barriers that I do
here is I don't know how to track my meals
that I'm making. I don't know And then they don't
track them, right, so they just don't do it. So
we just because we don't know how, we're not going
to do it. That doesn't compute. Can you imagine like
babies don't know how to fucking walk at first, but
they fucking figure it out.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Your child is in school, right and they come the
teacher sons him home. Your son just didn't want to
do it because he didn't know how.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
What would you say, like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (49:44):
What the fuck are you doing? Tell yourself that what
the fuck are you doing? Come on, you're an adult.
Be an adult and learn a new thing.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
Okay, Yes, absolutely, learning is awesome. I love learning something
new every day, one thing every day, Like challenge yourself. Yeah,
especially if you know that it may be your ticket.
It may be your ticket, right.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
I remember, I'll never forget when Jordan saiw it was
like are you weighing and measuring your food and grams
on a food scale? And I was like, no, should
I be? Because I was like frustrated?
Speaker 3 (50:14):
I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
He's like, yeah, how do you know what portions you're using?
I was like, oh, And you know, that was a
fucking game changer for me and I wish before I
would have known that fucking years ago, because you know,
you know what I mean her, I'm like, I'm eating
so much healthy brown rice and so much healthy avocado,
and yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Just because it's a quote unquote healthy food doesn't mean
that it's not gonna make you fat. I guess, right,
if you're eating too much of it, right, that's what
I hear. Lit is where I guess I'm going with
this is, Oh, I'm eating I'm eating healthy, eating clean,
meeting clean, but I'm not losing fats. I'm not losing
weight while you're still eating too much of it. Then
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
Yeah, it doesn't matter if you.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
Need nothing but fruits, vegetables and fucking dry ass chicken breast, Yeah,
you can eat too much of it and you'll still
get fat.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
That's what you got to ask yourself.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
It's like, I'm doing all these things, but I'm not
losing any thought, Well, take a look at your nutrition
and what are you not tracking? What do you what
are you doing that you know you shouldn't be doing?
Like there's always something right, always something we like to ask, like,
what is something that you're doing really well? And what
is something that you know you can work on. Mm hmm, Okay,
(51:22):
I know I can work on my bipe's nicked lips,
licks and tastes.
Speaker 3 (51:25):
Okay, most people can mm hmmm those a little dlts.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Yeah, yeah, I like that, which I have to catch myself.
In the beginning of this whole prep, I started coming
close to licking the fucking.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
Spoons and it's easy.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Just fucking did dab and fucking you know, and it's
like it's really like an impulse thing where you have
to fucking like it's almost like, okay, you know, right,
one of those things.
Speaker 3 (51:51):
You gotta yeah, you gotta take yourself off that automatic pilot.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
You have to be aware. Yeah, that's what it is.
A lot of us are on autopilot. We don't really understand,
we don't really know what we're doing. And that's why
a lot of the times coaches shine that flashlight to
see see show you things that you may not have seen.
Speaker 3 (52:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
I think we just said this with Renee last week.
Is like the first step of change is awareness. Awareness
isn't a bad thing, and that's where tracking your calories
for an x amount of time when you're starting out
can be very, very beneficial because and that's that means
everything too.
Speaker 3 (52:25):
You know.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
I challenged a client a couple of weekends ago. She
didn't track her alcohol on the weekend when she was
out with her friends and stuff. I was like, why
not you had it? Yeah, you or you crushed your
week you know, so next time you do go it
didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Matt's why.
Speaker 3 (52:42):
That's why I said.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
I was like, it still happened. Now we're trying to
act like it didn't happen. So now you're creating that
guilt shame cycle too on top of that. So no,
so I like, next time you drink, track the fucking alcohol.
Be mindful of it, but track it. And she came
back to me she didn't plan on having some drinks,
but she had a couple drinks with her mom, I
think or something, and she's like, I tracked this. I'm like, yeah,
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Now we're now we're cooking because now we're starting.
Speaker 3 (53:06):
To creating awareness exactly.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Yeah, now we're realizing like I didn't actually have three glasses,
I had six, and that doubled my calories, right, that
took me out of.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
My calorie depth. Sit.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
We don't want to Yeah, we just don't. We just
don't want to be confronted with that either.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
No, I mean, fucking I know all about that. I mean,
queen up. No, I only had a couple. Are you
kidding me?
Speaker 3 (53:27):
Right? Everybody knows what a couple means.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yeah, a couple you mean like a half fucking six
pack of twisted teas?
Speaker 3 (53:34):
Yes, yeah, that's that was my thing.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
That was before the tru lys and all the fucking
the fun drinks they have now. That was like the
twisted tea chick in the summer.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
Oh got it? Oh yeah, I never got into twisted
Oh my god, heartburn.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
I went hard on the Uh. The truly's there for
a while. The White Claws when they came out, you know,
that's them when they first came out. But that, thankfully
I'm far removed from that ship now.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
Yeah, well damn. We just went and we went at
this for an hour. We didn't have any talking.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
Points for today, guys.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
We just we always have good conversations, so, I know, right,
good points then. So so to recap here, we have
our meet and greet coming up July twelfth and San
Diego RSVP with the Lincoln in the comment or not
the link in the comments.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
Please come if you're in the area. See is a
large area, you guys and Tory Pin's la Joya.
Speaker 3 (54:30):
That's by a lot of stuff. So come.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
Yeah, Tom, we want to see you. Let's hang out
to have fun, do some cool things together. Get the
community involved. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
I love.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
That's why these these meet and greets. People getting to
know each other, meeting each other. Yeah, like what happened
in the last one. You know, everybody was talking about
doing the five K and stuff together, so exactly ship
all right, good, good stapping point yeah yeah cool.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
All right, bye guys, Bye bye.
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