203 - The GLP-1 Grift: When Wellness Meets Commission - Cut The Crap With Beth And Matt

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You may not have a disease of obesity, so you
just may need lifestyle change and not to diet your
entire life again and try to lose that five to
ten pounds over and over and over again. You have
food noise because all you do is diet. Yes, so
people have food noise for other reasons. There's different levels.
I have food noise right now, I'm dieting. Okay, if
you're dieting, you have food noise. It just comes with
the fucking territory. This is a real term, but it's

(00:22):
also overused.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yes, if you struggle with food noise, but you've also
done Weight Watchers five times, You've done Octavia a couple
of times. You've done low Carb, you've done Keto, you've
done Inner Manifesting, you've done hCG diet whatever in the past. Okay.
The answer is not going in microdosing with a telehealth company.

(00:45):
It's to stop fucking dieting and learn how to trust
yourself again and fuel your body, nourish your body, get
strong as fuck, become the bad bitch that you're capable
of being. Because we know you are, we believe in you.
We do it with our clients Yep. That is one
of the best ways, the best things you can do
to stop the food noise. Take back fucking control. Stop
giving control to other people, to your quote unquote condition,

(01:09):
to your symptoms, to your menopausalness. You can take that
control back.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Welcome to Cut the Crap with Beth and Map, the
world's number one no bullshit health and fitness podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Are you ready to cut the crap with your diet
and exercise, get strongest, fuck and build a healthy relationship
with food. Then you've come to the right place.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
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(01:52):
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Speaker 2 (01:59):
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Speaker 1 (02:14):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (02:15):
I'm phenomenal, feeling good today.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yay, getting ready to go to your fucking smoky mountains right?

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Oh my god, it's mountain time, baby. I can't wait.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, baby, I'm so excited for you. I wish I
was on the mountains.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, you know what, turning something which was sad for us,
which was postponing the trip forgot the crap right, and
turning it into a positive still and pivoting. Yeah, Sarah
and I are really looking forward to just connecting and
getting lost in the woods for a few days, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Oh yeah, I do know. Yeah, nothing better than little vitamin.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Nature vitamin and for vitamin Man.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Are you guys leaving today?

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah? Actually, like surely after this podcast is done. So
and thank you for pivoting today too, with recording earlier
in the day to accommodate, of course. Hell's yeah, yeah,
I'm on my post run high right now. I literally
just got done running like an hour ago. I'm feeling nice.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Nice, Well, it's nice. I just went from one meeting
with Hunter and now I'm on our podcast. I didn't
have a post run high or anything.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
That I had my run and then I had two
client calls, right, so I'm just trying to get everything done.
You know.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
I love it. I love it. Yeah, Okay, I.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Just want to say really quickly, I know I told you,
but h I said a pr my mile time on
my birthday last week.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Fuck yes, Matt broke.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
The into the sixth minute club. I get, well, I'm
six fifty with by one mile time. So that was
a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Talk about puke status.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Not quite you know, I know I had more in
the tank. It was a tempo run, so it was
it was on the tail end of doing two hard
miles anyway, so I wasn't entirely fresh for it. But
when I was halfway through that last mile, my mile three,
my pace was supposed to be like seven seven thirty
or something like that. That mile, I was halfway through
it and I was like, you know what, it's my

(04:04):
fucking birthday. I'm just gonna I'm gonna grip it and
rip it. So I just kind of fuck yeah for
that last half mile and just barely came in under
seven minutes.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
So I love it.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, feeling good and got some speedwork done here today too.
Nice short, yeah, bork out so film.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Fastest boy, fastest boy. I did my five k race
on fourth July that I haven't done a five k
in a long time running nerdles, I gotta say, I
mean it was a little rough, but it was it
was totally doable. The only reason it was a little
rough was a because i'ven't done anything like that in

(04:39):
a very long time. And then be my glycogen storage
because I've been on this bikini prep was like, yeah, depleted,
my legs could move, but it was just like sand
or you know. But I finished in thirty six minutes,
which honestly I thought was pretty fucking good. Trained, and

(05:00):
I walked a.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Lot, so okay, nice good, Yeah, I'm glad that opportunity
to walk and oh yeah, kind of power through it.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
I honestly, I was doing it for fun. I knew
I wasn't doing it to pr I was like, oh,
let's let's just do this. I haven't done it in
a while, you know. And I was talking to Mandy
and I'm thinking, you know, since I do miss running,
I always give myself the goal of like doing a
half marathon or something that right now in my life
doesn't fit like it did when I didn't have best

(05:29):
rock of fitness. So I was like, maybe I should
just concentrate on five k's because those are so much
more doable for me in my life, Like it's easier
to train for a five k m H, why wouldn't
Why wouldn't I, you know exactly?

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Fuck ow Glad to hear that you're thinking about your
goals like after yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Something to focus on after this bikini prep, because I'm
not going to start getting into five k's right now.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Right, yeah, that would be a terrible idea with a depleted.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Very terrible yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, yep, hear that, y'all. Right, fallos phase, very intentional
fat loss phase and trying to get really good at
doing a five k, those are competing ideas.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
I also decided to do that five k race on
fourth of July because I had two refeed days in
a row, so I actually had maintenance calories for two days,
but the day before was still my very low calories.
So when you think about like when you're racing, like
usually kind of like carbload, carb up a couple of
days before, right, So I didn't have that.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Didn't have that to fall back, but I.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Was able to replenish myself, which is key as well.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Absolutely. Oh yeah, ock yeah, lots of fun, lots of
good stuff here lined up. I guess to talk about
today too.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Before we get into like today's talk that, we want
to talk about, today's talking about how are things going
with the old bikini prep?

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Same same, reaching new low on the scale today? Yay, Right,
I'm celebrating that because it's part of the bikini prep,
and you know, we don't. I don't really usually celebrate
I lost as much. But when you're you're in this
bikini prep, you have a specific you have specific numbers, right,
you have you have to hit because it's a time
based goal basically. So anyway, that was cool because if

(07:18):
I don't hit specific numbers, then we need to figure
some shit out. Am I going to be needing to
do more cardio or do I need to lower the calories?
The last thing we want to do is lower calories.
So when this kind of stuff happens, you're like, yes,
I don't need to lower calories. I don't need to
do extra cardio. Yeah, But other than that, it's fucking boring.
I mean, I'm just doing literally, I'm eating the same
thing every day. I pre track my meals every day.

(07:41):
I just hit you know, repeat and repeat to my
little thing. I drink one ghost today.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Makes it easier to stick to it when you're sticking
to the same meals and the same kind of structure.
Having that structure, yeah, and not just going out of
willy nilly like so many people do.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah. Honestly, like I think think the hardest thing is
kind of bored with it. It's very regimented. So it's
almost like I have to live a very regimented life
right now, which you know, it's there's no room for
funsies like going to Dorman's ice cream or you know,

(08:17):
having a pizza like delivered. It's literally regimented. You know,
where am I going to be at this time because
I'm going to make sure that I have food near
me that I made or bring it with me.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
You know.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
It's not like oh I can like just hit you know,
Hannaford's and grab this or no, because it's already pre made,
pre logged specific macros. So the regimented part of it is.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Like, and I think too to highlight that for you
where you currently are in this fat loss body like
body composition. Really, I think, yeah, better way to look
at it for you. Right, Obviously fat less is happening,
but you're also working on building muscle and things like
that right now too, with you having to be as
dialed in as you are what you're doing. We keep

(09:00):
saying this, but people need to hear this too. It's
not for everybody, and not everybody need to be like
that either, Right, you can still lose that and not
need to be that regimented.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
For most exactly. Actually, this may be a good entrance
into the conversation that we're going to have today. So
I've lost about ten eleven pounds, So let's talk about
the last ten pounds. What essentially I've had to do
for the last ten pounds, right, I may probably lose

(09:30):
three to four after this, but that this is for
bikini prep purposes, right, So I've had to be severely regimented,
extremely consistent. When you think about the last ten pounds,
what does that really mean to you? Are you just
coming up with a number in your head? Do you
actually need to lose the last ten pounds? Right? Where? Yeah? Where?

(09:50):
Did that number come from? Because right now currently, like before,
I didn't even have a number in my mind, but
Kelly already had that didn't tell me, but she had
that planned out of where I should be. Is this
fo time because she's my coach. Right, Think about if
I wasn't having this bikini prep and I was like, yeah,
I need to lose ten pounds, I'd have to be
very like regimented and very strict. Yeah, that's what about

(10:12):
last ten pounds is because you're already low body weight,
your lowering body weight, that means you're gonna have to
be lower in calories.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, A way I like to look at it when
people are talking about like, oh I just want to
lose ten pounds or I'm struggling to lose that last
five to ten pounds. We hear that so often, right, Yeah,
media and our DMS and our comments. It's like, let's
put it, let's rephrase there, let's put it back to
the person asking this question, is like, why what value
losing the last five to ten pounds is going to
add to your life? Because for like, like what you're

(10:41):
going through, it's not gonna be worth it for most
people to go through the mental anguish. I don't know
if that's the right word, but the stress that comes
with trying to get like you say, Dick's.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Skids, Like there's no eating out. This is me losing
ten pounds basically of well, what I've been doing doing
for this, right, and it hasn't been fun. And imagine me,
like what would I do to stay here?

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Do you know what I'm saying? Like, people don't think
about that either, And they also don't think about the
fact that you will always fluctuate two to five pounds
could be five to seven pounds. You are literally worrying
about your maintenance weight most of the time. Yeah, because
you don't understand maintenance, right, you don't understand that scale.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Lose that last five to ten pounds, I think they're
just going to fucking live there. But that's right.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
And they're like, well, I don't understand why I keep
getting five pounds. It's like, well, you don't understand maintenance.
That's your maintenance.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
M hmm exactly.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
And then you keep dieting to go back to a
number and then go back to maintenance and back and
back and back. Meanwhile, you're just literally fucking yourself every
single time, and this type.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
In really well to like what we've been talking about
on this podcast recently, what you've been talking about on
your social media, Like last week we were talking about
menopause and metabolism, right, Like, if you continue to try
to lose that five to ten pounds, you're gonna do
drastic shit to get there. Yeah, you're gonna fuck yourself up.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
You're gonna lose muscle, you're gonna lose some bone because
a lot of the times these you guys aren't string
training or doing the things that you need to be
doing while you're losing fat. And that's a big thing
as well, and that's where your lower metabolism TDE is
coming from.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely most said nerdle. So I guess that
is a really good segue today. Right, So you've been
on fire recently on your social media bringing light to
some really unethical shit going on in the industry, and
this kind of continues our conversation that we had with
doctor Spencer Nadalski a couple of weeks ago, and real
quick shout out if you all haven't listened to that episode,
go listen to it please. It's all about GLP ones.

(12:33):
It's a phenomenal episode because you all the information you know.
So today we're going to be unpacking this growing trend
of influencers, fitness influencers that are promoting these GLP one
agonists zycozepic and compound at semi glue tides in micro
doses with zero medical oversights, and how that puts followers,
our listeners to people doing these things at risk under

(12:56):
the guise of wellness and health. Right, And you've been
crushing it with your messaging on that and I think
on that note too, like we we we're going to
offer up a disclaimer here. We are not anti GLP ones, right,
we nomenal fucking drugs their life change.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
I feel like I have to say that so much
and people still don't understand that we're not against them.
Still don't hear it, and you don't fucking listen, man, Like,
listen to what we're saying. Okay, there is a dark
side to everything.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, we have got to pay attention you at Team
BFF in here with my clients. We have so many
clients that are using GLP one.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yes, we work with them. It's a tool in their
toolbox to actually help them be able to get into
that deficit right and be able to change their habits
and string train and all that stuff. It's a tool
and we work with them with that.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Tool, and they're doing it under the direct care of
their doctors.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Their person is key, which is key.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
So that's the clarification that we want to outline here,
and this is what this episode is going to be about.
Is this gray area currently on the interwebs, the internets
with influencers promoting these things and these telehealth companies. Right.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, if you listen to our last episode with doctor Nadolski, sorry,
the one before our last to look for two to one,
he actually discussed how important it is to have a
doctor's care because there's a lot of things that could
happen that you don't understand you need to discuss with
your doctor, like side effects, you know, maybe it's stopped working.
There's all these things that you need to be under
doctor's care for, like DEXA scans, make sure that you're

(14:22):
actually maintaining your bone density. This is very important. And
once you hit the territory of like you're just getting
shipped off the internet and you're like, yeah, I feel
the best I've ever felt. Et cetera, et cetera from
a fucking influencer. Yeah, you know, we have an issue here.
This is this is like we're I feel like this

(14:43):
needs to be regulated because it's kind of getting out
of hand and someone's going to get fucking in trouble
and it's going to make it harder for those that
actually need the medication to get it.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
That's another area that this is a possibility of going
to because you have MLM, right.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
This is essentially what this is is, you know, multi
level marketing, affiliate marketing is what's happening right now with
this trend that we're seeing essentially, right, these influencers that
we're seeing are promoting GLP ones and for microdosing and
they are sending you to a company to get them
a telehealth company and they get a kickback for it. Like,

(15:24):
come on, that's a big fucking problems. And what's even
further and because these things are regulated, but they're operating
in a way that is illegal. You know, they're not
disclosing that they're earning income from this from these things.
They're not disclosing that you know, needs to be done
with your doctor and things like that. They're not doing
any of the disclosures. They're monetary disclosures that are required

(15:47):
by law from the FCC, Like we can report all
of these people and we are that are doing these
things because it's a big fucking problem and it's.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Very yeah, it's an epidemic. It what's even more frightening,
And this is this is how they do it right, Okay,
And this just actually proves to me and to a
lot of people that I know that there are so
many coaches out there that have eating disorders. Clearly they are.
They're showing their faces loud and clear right now. Yeah,
So you got the typical influencer. Let's say someone like

(16:19):
I'm not gonna say it like me, but let's say
a coach or someone that's a maybe maybe they're not
even a coach. They're just like a wellness girly right there.
They're like someone that you know, they like they like
love to talk about like clothing and makeup and strength
training and like their fucking wellness stuff, right and then like,
oh my god, guys, this is my one month micronsing journey, okay,

(16:41):
and like they start flexing and then they start getting
out the fucking abs no joke, right, and then they
have the little vial with the fucking syringe and they're
like syringing their fucking eight pack. Comment whatever word, and
I'll give you the details of like what works for me.
But I've never felt so good, guys. Reduced inflammation, reduce this,
reduce that, my menopause symptoms, like making shit up out

(17:04):
of their fucking ass.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Okay, though they are illegal claims to make, by the way, Yeah, yes,
these GLP ones are not approved for those uses.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
No diabetes and obesity.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yes, they do that.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
And they're like comment microdos or a comment compound or
whatever the fucking word is, right, So you do that.
Then you get a link, right, So you go to
that link. Where does it take you? It takes you
right to l e MD, where it's like company thirty
thirty percent off for your first microdose of GLP one
with B twelve. Yeah right, the fuck is going on.
And this is what brinds my fucking gears. It's literally

(17:42):
anybody can see these videos, and we're talking miners. We're
talking young women with eating disorders. Anorexia. If you ask me,
this is the new anorexia because you can be anorexic
and take this and fucking not eat and not even
be hungry.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Right.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, that's a fucking problem that we're not regulating this
shit and monitoring who is actually having access.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
It's because these companies, these telehealth companies, they are exploiting
illegal loophole, is what they're doing. Yes, And the loophole
is the FDA is trying to close that loophole, but
these companies are fighting very hard to not close it, right,
And it's because these companies are using compounded pharmacies, yes,
and the FDA has cracked it down. The only reason

(18:26):
why these companies were even able to use compounded GLP
one agonists is because there was a shortage a couple
of years ago. But that shortage is over now. But
they're still exploiting that loophole, is what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
I don't know how they're getting away with this, but
I feel like it's not going to be long. I
don't know. I'm reporting LAMD to the DEA. I haven't
done it yet because I need to gather evidence because
this is a big fucking deal. I'm literally reporting everyone
I fucking see for pushing drugs on the internet. Yeah,
I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
And then and report them to the FCC because a
lot of these influencers and these companies aren't disclosing the relationship,
their financial relationship financial disclosures. That's illegal. FCC does not
take that stuff lightly. They can get that five thousands
and thousands of dollars for not disclosing that the FCC.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
You need to write that down because that's another avenue
I need to take.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
FCC is what regulates the financial stuff for. Yeah, Consumer's
protection proabably involved in things like they cracked down on
MLMs and affiliate marketing. Okay, perfect with what the SEC
is responsible for.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, you have to actually with each state that this
person is into. I think you have to report it
to that state. I've been finding different things about that.
There is a lot of things like this is like
a rabbit hole I'd never thought I'd go into. But
I'm honestly was so only because if I've thought about
twice about it, because I have. I've even told like
my team, I was like, it's so fucking like it's

(19:47):
the biggest fucking diamond I've ever seen. When you're talking
about like this is like diamonds.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Diet culture rebranded.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
This is diet culture, and I haven't thought about doing
anything disordered in years, but this is such a shiny
fucking object that it does make you think twice. And
I know if I thought twice about it, that someone
else would think twice about it one hundred percent. Because
I have a really good relationship with food. I am
not that person I was fifteen years ago, right, But
a lot of people still are.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yep. I mean that's our typical listener, our typical follower.
Let's be real. Our listener base is between the ages
of thirty five to like sixty years old, and they're female.
Like ninety percent of our listeners and followers are thirty
five to sixty. They have been targeted their entire fucking
life with skinny, being skinny, eat less, be less, thin

(20:37):
is better. Your hunger is a problem, You're You're a problem,
You're the problems you you're broken. And this is just
rebranding that and repackaging that. Yeah, branding new shiny fucking
package to the fact.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
That they're marketing perimenopausal and menopausal women, which is pretty
much I think someone just told me today there's a
growing rise in eating disorders and women in their forties
and fifties. I totally believe it. I think it was
even in my Menopause Specialist certification book. You know, these
people are targeting menopausal women like you need this microdose

(21:08):
with your HRT, the perfect combination buck my life.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
We've said this before, but for perimenopausal menopausal women, they're
just the wellness industry is trying to just squeeze every
fucking dime out of them that they can. And they've
been doing that for their entire life.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
If it's not one thing, it's another, and now we
are onto the next, which I think this is probably
the worst thing I've seen. Yeah, and let me repeat, like,
I'm not against GLP ones right or the right people
that you're monitored by your doctor, and you don't have
an eating disorder, you are already at a good body
fat range. You're healthy. You don't need these. I got

(21:47):
to tell you, you don't need them if you are
a healthy individual. Okay, you're looking to lose last ten pounds,
get in the fucking gym, yeh. Then the gym and
start strength training. Yeah yeah, focus on what your body
can do.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Check this out, Beth, this is actually something that I
had made note of before we talked about, so I'm
glad you just mentioned it.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
The wellness industry is making literal billions off of menopause
of women, and it's growing fast. So as of twenty
twenty three, the global menopause market was valued at fifteen
to twenty two billion, okay, and that's expected to reach
thirty to forty billion by by twenty thirty and just
five years, which is a god use the growth rate
of five to eight percent every fucking year, and a

(22:31):
lot of that comes in the form of supplements and vitamins,
which is estimated at two to five billion a year.
Fitness and wellness programs is estimated at one to two
billion dollars a year, Beauty and skincare two to four
billion dollars a year, mental health and sleep aids one
to three billion dollars a year. One point two billion
women are expected to be in menopause by twenty thirty.

(22:53):
And the reason why this demographic is so heavily targeted
is because they typically have higher disposable income, they're further
along in their career, they don't have children in the
house anymore, and they're actually seeking relief for the symptoms
that they're experiencing. So they're vulnerable population. Yes, Oh yeah,
it's largely underserved by traditional healthcare too.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Doctors are really ill prepared, ill equipped to work with
menopausal women. Yeah, and it's just really it's just really
fucking unfortunate to see. So that's where we come into play. Like, guys,
this is enough, and I like what you said too.
If you're gonna go down this route of GLP ones,
do it under the care of your health professional. If
if your doctor is telling you no, there's a fucking

(23:37):
reason for it. Don't go to a gray market website
on the internet where they're not going to tell you no.
They're not going to tell you no. You can lie
on your forms. There's no oversight to these companies bringing
people on.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Uh oh, can I read what she told me to
be anonymous? Anonymous follower sent me about l E MD.
I send this Matt earlier. Okay, these people are not
They don't give a fuck about your health. FYI let
me find it. Hold on, you can't post my name.
This is anonymous. I attended an LAMD presentation. The microdosing

(24:14):
is being positioned as reducing inflammation and boosting energy. It
was also mentioned that studies have shown a decrease in Alzheimer's.
No one ever mentioned at the presentation that there is
no research on microdosing. They also said at the presentation
that botox was primarily used for migraines, but doctors started
using an off label for anti aging. It's the same thing.

(24:37):
We are just ahead of the curve here, they say.
The company also offers a number of the other supplements
and infusions that you can get, NAD compounds, et cetera.
Oh and guess what they also said at the presentation.
If you happen to have a child on the age
of eighteen at home and need to fudge the age
number to qualify them, it's totally fine to do that.
You didn't hear this from me, Please don't post my name, etc.

(25:00):
For all you're doing. Okay, So they're there. They think
it's okay to have a minor just lie there. They're
basically right.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
This company in particular, let's talk about like their structure,
because they're charging like what three hundred to four hundred
bucks a month for this for a compound of GLP
ones and B twelves or like these fucking microdose longevity
drops whatever the fuck that is here.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
They're making ship out other fucking ass right now.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
So that's how much in you're charging. Guess how much
the person that referred to you, like, if you found
this link from an influencer, they're getting up to forty
percent commission reoccurring every month off of that, which is
one hundred and twenty dollars per month that that influencer
is getting just by sending you to that telehealth company.
They've paid over eight million dollars in commissions to brand partners.

(25:51):
And here's the fucked up thing, right you and I
were talking about this. Anyone can sign up to start
earning money with this company.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yes, they even have ads for it. Actually, i've seen O.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Nine to get started m hm nine dollars to get
started working for this company. And you can start promoting
golp ones on your own fucking platform.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
That's so, do a little test. If you guys keep
seeing these videos, go straight to their link. Everyone has
a link tree and they'll have a list of things
that they offer. Yep, go right to the peptides. They'll
have another name for it, whatever it is, whatever it says.
We'll have something to do with GOLP one right click
that most all of them will go to L E MD.
So when you have multiple influencers who have the same site,

(26:37):
have a fucking problem.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
That's a big problem.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
That is a big that's fucking crazy. This is plexus
and shit, it's it's essentially that it's this is in plexus. Okay,
So people are getting fucking these violeles with needles delivered
to them in the finale to do what they need
to do them.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yep, and a good way too. By this person person,
the one influencer that you sent me a screenshot of
their profile. I'm fucking blocked by them. I just went
to I was just gonna go to their page. I've
never even communicated or talked with this person ever. That's
a red flag. Why the fuck am I blocked? When

(27:17):
did I send that to you a couple of days ago?
I'm blocked by them? Sorry this pa.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
I wonder if they blocked me now?

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Probably? Yeah, I am blocked as fuck. What what's you
hide in their influencer?

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Oh my god, that's crazy. I'm trying to go to
your message.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
See never even interacted with them, is it L E
M D results. Yeah, I'm blocked. I've always been such
a vocal advocate of anti being I I'm involved, like
in the anti MLM movement. I've done podcasts with like
Bird of Leven's and things like that about so a
lot of those affiliate marketers and MLM types of people

(27:57):
that they've they've already preemptively blocked me. Now, so maybe
that's what it is. But actually, when I was on
my anti Optavia h kick there for a while, that's
fucking crazy. But that's a red flag. What are you hiden?

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (28:10):
What are you heiden?

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Obvious a lot?

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Right, So this isn't wellness y'all. This is like direct
to consumer pharma funnel with an influencer being the middleman.
That's all it is.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
If they're exploiting a loophole. You don't have to go
to your doctor. Your doctor probably told you know that
you don't qualify. So these telehealth companies are happy to
fill in that void essentially. Yeah, and the marketing around
it is what's what's a big problem? Right, It's it's
not about weight, it's about longevity, it's about inflammation or

(28:41):
insulin resistance, or it's about menopausalness. Right, that's really what
it comes down to increasing enhancing your metabolic health. And
not to say that those the glp ones can't help
with those things, but again, it shouldn't be coming from influencers.
They're not they're not medical professionals. They shouldn't be fucking
sending you to this type of shit.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
And the fact that you're actually doing that, Like, where
are you in your mindset with yourself right now that
you are actually following an influencer that is pushing these
things as wellness on their page and you are purchasing
medication that should be prescribed by your fucking doctor off

(29:22):
the web, right, you really need to take a look out.
That is our It is going on through your fucking head.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yes, to be very clear, again, this is our This
is our problem with glp ones. That it's not the
drugs themselves, it's how they are being rampantly abused, so
obviously abused and misused.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Right, here's the thing. It's like you could take anything
and make it bad, right, you know, calorie tracking is
not for everyone obviously, like microdocing ADLP one A right now,
shouldn't be for anyone because it's not fucking studied, right,
But yeah, you might feel fucking great, you might feel fantastic,
you might have a fucking no aches, and whatever positives
you feel.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Doctors should not be prescribing drugs if there's no if
there's not research to support them for those purposes. There
needs to be clinical studies, There needs to be human
control studies before these things can be used for off
label purposes.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
And to say that if you're doing it to prevent
Alzheimer's in dementia, I mean, those studies aren't going to
be done for a very long time, right Maybe do
you think they're going to be needing to follow someone
for fucking seventy years before they figure this shit out?
How do you know it prevents Alzheimer's? You're just fucking
saying that right now, right? I mean, I no, No,

(30:38):
I'm pretty sure there's there are trials going on right now,
but they're not finished, and I'm not sure the fuck
they will be.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
There are. There are lots of trials going on for
for new reason, for for other benefits and other reasons
why people should be taking these but they're not still
not approved for those things. They're still not approved for
those uses exactly.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
And that's what I don't think people understand, like I
would not take something that wasn't approved, and you're you,
and the same thing with fucking vitamins and supplements. You
guys take shit that you don't have no idea about anyway.
Then now you're just going next level.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, because now you know, now you're not fucking around
with supplements. Now you're fucking around with your bodies medication exactly,
put your literal hormones.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
You want to lose those last ten pounds with the
microdose of a GLP want are you going to be
on that forever? What happens when you come off that?

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Well? Because that's like we talked about with doctor Spencer
and Dulski. These are forever drugs. These drugs are not
meant to be taken for a short period of time.
The research, the research is very very clear, take them forever. Yeah,
But do you think these companies are telling you that? No?
Absolutely not, absolutely not right in my opinion, Like, because doctors, right,

(31:51):
they have that they have an oath do no harm,
their ethics, their bord of ethics that they're bound by.
These doctors that are with these telehealth companies, they're not
in my opinion, they're not abiding by those their oath
to do right by their patients and practice evidence based practice.
You know they're not. There are some things that have

(32:14):
been done from like the FDA and FTC and things
like that. First of all, FTC and FCC does mandate
that influencers disclose these material ties like commissions. So if
somebody is sending you to these services and they're not saying, hey,
I'm an affiliate, I am earning commission, I am earning
money by working with this company, that's illegal. They're breaking

(32:36):
the law. Report them. The FDA has issued warning letters
to online pharmacies like like we're talking about now, to
stop selling unapproved GLP ones. They are cracking down on
compounded pharmacies like this isn't this shit's got to go
away at some point then what are we then? What
are y'all gonna do?

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah? Right now, it's a fucking circus m hm. But
I can tell you that circus won't be around for long.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
It's going to because state attorney's general are pressing on
the FDA heavily to crack down further, and of course
their compound pharmacy reps are suing the FDA and the
federal government for breaching on their rights essentially. So while
there's been they're supposed to stop, while these things are
in court, they're allowed to continue essentially.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Hmm. That's probably what they're doing right now, because I
thought that they got it.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
As of May of this year, and it was even
went back to last year. They've been even last year
they were supposed to stop, but then they got you know,
they they fought against it and they got to stay
and things like that.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
I honestly, the last few days I've seen so many
microdos GLP one videos that it makes me want to
just get off social media altogether. It's not triggering, it's
it's it's troubling. It's extremely troubling, and I can't stand
fucking seeing it anymore. And it's literally everywhere m hm.
It's like the court is all videos, every all fucking
saying about Instagram right now is a fucking MLM, and

(34:03):
I am like, I don't even know what to talk
about anymore. That's where I feel like, I'm just like
this place is out of control.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Mm hmm. Absolutely. Bottom line, as you can ethically prescribe
or promote GLP ones for microdosing on these with these
telehealth companies. You can't for with these online pharmacies, is
what I'm talking about right of course, now with our
doctors now again, because these drugs are super powerful, these

(34:31):
prescription grade medications, they require lab work. You're not getting
lab work done to sign up with these companies. You're
not getting blood work done. There's no medical oversights. Okay,
you might fill in a survey once a month telling
them how you're feeling and things like that. That's not
fucking medical oversight.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
You could lie about.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Okay. You should also be required be undergoing exit planning.
So how what was your plan for after these drugs? Okay,
there's no one of these things are taking place.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Do you have a nutrition and strength program in place?
While taking these two right?

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Influencers are exploiting the fuck out of people right now,
and these companies are happy to do it as well.
They're exploiting disordered eating patterns, women with disordered eating history.
They're exploiting women with body image issues, which is fucking
most women right because they've been beating. It's been beat
into their head that thin is beautiful, thin is better.

(35:30):
Nothing tastes good as skinny fuels. Whatever bullshit was happening
in the nineties and the eighties, right, all that shit,
and this desire for control too, like this extreme desire
for control. But it's not about control, it's about fucking
trusting and loving yourself again. Yeah, and you're not going
to do that if you're continuously jumping through these the
latest fucking trends. Yeah, if you've been tempted, like if

(35:54):
our listeners have been tempted, we understand, we get it.
Like you just said to yourself, Beth, you get it.
But you know you've repaired your relationship with food, come
a long way with that. But even you can understand why, right,
why people are tempted. That's understandable, of course. Yeah, you
guys aren't broken. You're for wanting relief. We're human, you're human.
But anyone selling you a shortcut for monetary gain or

(36:14):
a kickback isn't offering healing. They're fucking selling dependency. They're
selling you why, that you're broken and that it's outside
of your control. Yeah, and it's bullshit.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
It is.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
There's been a huge resurgence of this whole skinny talk
right on. We've been calling it skinny talk. Essentially, just
dire culture is back and full force, and we had
made we had made such I felt like we were
making such good.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Were starting to I saw this coming.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Though, Yeah, these last few years right coming, and.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Now now we're here. And what's what's really disturbing that is,
I think no one has a sense of what a
normal body is because everybody is just getting smaller and
more gaunt that you just don't even know what's it's
really fucking troubling. It's like when you start to question
if your body's normal because you consistently see this all

(37:04):
the time portrayed like in this glory right and then
you're like, oh my god, am I even good enough?
Right now? This is real fucking shit, man, And I
get these damns from women like struggling. I don't even
know like if my body's okay right now, because all
I see is women that I actually looked up to
that are now just like so baunt and claiming health

(37:29):
like I feel the best I've ever felt.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
There.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
There is so much disconnect it's fucking gross. Like I
can't make my heart like sink, honestly.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
And at the same time I'm talking about this, I'm
doing this bikini prep right and which is totally unsustainable,
and I'm doing it for yes, And at the same time,
now I'm like, I don't even want to post my
before and actors like, I'm like caught in this like
mental fucking thing of like.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
But at the same time, if we look at the
positive side of it, Beth, I know, one of the
reasons why you went down this journey was to prove
to women, Yeah, all the women that they can fucking
do it, that they're not broken you go down the menopause.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
I just lost eleven pounds, Okay. Was it was it easy? No?

Speaker 2 (38:17):
No?

Speaker 1 (38:18):
But I did it. And that's the whole point, right.
I didn't need a MICRODOSAGLP one. Yeah, but I also
don't need to get any smaller than I am right now,
other than for this thing that I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah. So yeah, yeah, it's setting a terrible precedent for
and I think looking long term too, right, not just
with menopause women, Like you said, who else is seeing
this shit? Teenagers, young women in their early twenties and thirties.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Perhaps I have been already getting messages about seventeen year
old girls starting to do this stuff because a mother
is concerned about her daughter and her friends. Her friends
are on it, and her daughter is now asking mother
to go on it. And they got it from, of course,
like a med spat or something. Okay, so this is
a fucking problem. Yeah, those I mean, it's disgusting. I know,

(39:10):
I'm disgusted, y'all.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
These medspas on the corner. Huge fucking problem. Okay, we
operate in such a way. A lot of them are
operating illegally, but but they're definitely operating in a llegal
loophole and legal gray area. Yeah, I'm gonna say it again.
If someone's a candidate for GLP one, you need.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Please go see your healthcare provider.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
You need labs, you need consistent follow ups.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
You need nutrition, need DEXA scans, Yeah, nutritional support, you
need strength training, a guidance, behavioral mindset strategy. Right, it's
a whole packaged deal. This is not a like a
quick fixed type deals. This is true help you become
a healthy individual like actual mind, body, and soul. Right,

(39:54):
not not just fucking like getting as small as you can.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, you need education and support, not a magic shop
and a fucking discount code.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
It's not a fucking flex that your first meal of
the day is at three pm and all you've had
was a fucking coffee. And I've seen people talk about
that too on the internet. Not cool, not fun not
that's not funny. Oh gosh, you know this helps me, Like,
so I don't have any appetite on my first meals,
I have three eight same.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Person coffee cortisol too, Right, the same person's going to
complain about cortisol.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, you're not eating till three o'clock and you're feeling
your fucking body on coffee.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Right, I've never felt so good?

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Oh right, Yeah, that's the messaging, right, that's the messaging.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
That is the messaging. Let's not eat, let's micro dose.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Bottom line is I guess this is kind of like,
this is a trend. This is a huge trend. And
again I want to highlight here. We have clients that
are taking GLP ones.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Yeah they're not just quite a few, yep.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
But they're still doing the work. They're seeing great results
and the ways that these jugs are helping them phenomenal, incredible,
life changing drugs. But they're doing it under the care
of their doctors. Mm hmm. They're not going online and
getting these drugs. They're still making sure they eat enough food.
They're not just taking them and then starving them and

(41:11):
then not eating and trying to get as small as possible.
They're still focused on getting strong as possible. They're nourishing
their body. That's that's one of the big things that
I know is going to Like why I know they're
going to be successful because they're they're doing the things
that are necessary. Yeah, they're building muscle mass, they're maintaining
their muscle mass, their bone density, they're moving their body,

(41:31):
they're nourishing their body. Because at the end of the day,
what this should be about is it should be about health, right,
it should be about health, not about getting as small
as possible. And when we're seeing this messaging from these influencers,
it's usually about read between the lines. Okay, it's they're
they're using the marketing terms that they're using. It's it's

(41:53):
essentially just telling you it's a way of selling skinny,
is all it is. The way of selling skinny. It's
not about you getting strong and feeling confident and empowered
and trusting yourself and loving yourself again. Yeah, ask better questions, challenge.
These influencers work with providers who see the full picture.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Yeah, don't get distracted by shiny objects, because you deserve more.
Your health deserves more than just Oh, I don't even
know what to say. You know, you're not broken, you
know what I'm saying, Like, don't make other people feel
make you feel like you're you're not good enough. You know,
you have inflammation, Like the people are throwing around inflammation

(42:32):
like nobody's business. Like I've never heard the word inflammation
so much in my life. It's fucking out of control.
Like what are these people consider inflammation? I lost seven
pounds of inflammation? You mean you lost a week? Like
calling like body fat inflammation. It's like, no one understands
what the fuck they're talking about. And that's another reason
why Like why are you listening to these people that
are just instilling fear in you and calling these things

(42:56):
names that they don't even understand.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Right, Like we talked about cople weeks ago with doctor
Spencer Dedalski, inflammation is totally fucking normal, right, Chronic inflammation
can be harmful, But inflammation by itself, like just using
that as a buzzword is fucking harmful. Yes, without inflammation,
you would be dead, right, Like inflammation is a normal
physiological thing that happens in your body. Right, It's what

(43:20):
causes your body to change. You get inflamed from working out,
you get stronger. Your body says like, hey, like I'm
inflamed from this hard thing that I just did. I
need to adapt to that signal so I get stronger,
I get health, I improve my health essentially is what
the body ends. Very high level and talking like a
sixth grader here, I guess, but that's how it works,
same with cortisol right without dead like, health coaches and

(43:44):
fitness professionals are not fucking doctors, and they need to
stop pretending like them. The influencer you're talking about or
you're following is doing blood work and lab work, Like
what the actual fuck? Let's get real here, like what
are you doing?

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Yeah? I mean I had people recently question me like
my credential. So I'm like, just because I'm talking about
like what's going on the internet, you need fucking credentials
for me. What about these people that are selling this
ship where they're there? Why aren't you asking the influencers
do fucking more on.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
What are the dick dick?

Speaker 1 (44:16):
I mean, seriously, it makes no sense to me, what
are your credentials? You have no idea what you're talking about.
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
But the health professor, the fitness professional that has been
a personal trainer for five years, and now they're they've
come online because if they've realized how lucrative it is,
they have maybe a weekend certification and nutrition and an
ISA certification.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
And a fucking six pack, and.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
A six pack they're qualified to its back in a
fucking discount code. Here you go, here's your DLP ones.
I might opra up in this bitch. You get it
like your dose. You get a microdose. You all get microdoses. Yeah,
fucking that's okay. That influencer, they're okay, you're not going
to question that. But the people that are talking about
this ship were wrong. Yeah, it's the idiocracy. It is again, right,

(45:06):
that's our society anymore. It's fucking idiocracy.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Yeah, it's it's very It sucks.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Caterage's better. Don't know what's what's the same from.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Uh, the plants need electrolytes or some plant electrolytes.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
It's what plants crave. Right, then they can't they don't
understand why all the grass is dead and everybody's dying.
They're not drinking water.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Imagine, like everyone go watch that movie and just look
at how close we are to that right now. And
it's atually kind of fucking frightening.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Big shout out to idiocracy.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Yes movie, I know, right.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Hey, And also so I guess as we start wrapping
things up, I do want to call something out here
for ourselves, bet because I believe in not being biased
and not being hypocritical. We have we work with the company,
right that's not related to GLP of ones or anything
like that, but we love Christian and we are affiliated
with a supplement company, and we we talk about how

(46:00):
much we love their fucking products with their slow gummies
and their Serenity gummies. But we're not making any bullshit
claims with them. We're also we don't get paid directly,
like if you go and buy using like we get
paid rather you buy their products or not, Like we
just we're just here to talk about like we use
these products, we love them, and so like that's that's
how that works essentially. Yeah, So I want to call

(46:22):
that out because I believe in transparency. I don't want
to come off as a hypocritical. But we do love
like cure nutrition in their products, And that's just our
disclaimer there. You know, going to call that out because
I think if we're going, if we're going to talk
about how people aren't being transparent, we should be transparent ourselves.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Aren't they having another deal right now? It's like the
Prime Prime deal.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Yeah, by time, by time that time, deal will be ending.
Unless you're listening to this when the first day that
it comes out, you can which is which is Friday.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
The eleventh, because it ends Friday, right.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Their deal ends Friday. It's for uh free express shipping.
Plus with our discount code you get twenty percent off
and a free Serenity Gummy travel pack with that. Yeah,
but you can even after that deal is over, you
can actually just subscribe to their but like with a
per monthly subscription to the products, and you can actually
save more money that way, too.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Nice school.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
So I took my flow gummies before this podcast to
help me get focused and dialed in.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
So yeah, I love it.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
I love it. So I just wanted to call that out, Yeah,
because if I think if more people were transparent, we
want to have so many fucking problems in this in
this industry.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
I think we want to know though too. Let's ask
our listeners here what they think about this episode and
also send us comments and dms from like, if you've
been tempted by these steps of messages by these influencers
with thee of messaging, we will. We also want you
to know that you're not broken for wanting an easier way.
And then that's not to say that these drugs are

(47:59):
an easier way, because you still have to do the work.
It's not the take. It is not making shortcuts, but
going online to these telehealth companies is not is not
to move. So we want, we would love to hear
from anybody that's been tempted by these things and has
been struggling with these things, the messaging and should I
do this? Should I do it? Should I not do it?
Like talk to your doctor? Okay, yeah, ask better questions,

(48:24):
Challenge influencers, Ask them what their credentials are, Ask them
if they're being compensated for promoting these things, right, yeah,
I guarantee you they are. And if they tell you no,
I just love the product, bullshit, they're fucking lying to you.
They're lying. Teeth block Okay, and work with providers who
see the bull the big picture, the full picture, and

(48:47):
there's the actual some oversight into what the fuck they're
doing at the end of the day. Like, listen, if
you're struggling with appetite, appetite control, right, if you're struggling
with weight loss, weight regain, and whatever, it might be
food noise the popular term right now, We get it,
we get it. But if someone's first solution is discount

(49:08):
code to get a shot instead of having an actual
conversation with you, They're not a fucking coach. They're a salesperson. There,
a snake oil salesman. You and your health deserve better
than that.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Yeah. I also think like a lot of people, oh
or like I have so much food noise, there also
been yoyo dieting their whole entire life, like you don't
even know how to, Like you may not need a
GLP one. You may need a fucking coach, you know.
And here's the thing, Like I think people are just
so lost and what they need, they're just going to

(49:38):
go towards that quick thing, right, And I'm not talking
about someone that literally you have been yoyo dieting your
whole entire life. You have dysregulated hunger. Like I'm saying, like,
you need to go see your doctor with for obesity, right,
which is a disease. Okay, And so what do you
do with a disease. You treat the disease. You may
not have a disease of obesity, so you just may

(50:00):
need lifestyle change and not to diet your entire life
again and try to lose that five to ten pounds
over and over and over again. You have food noise
because all you do is diet. Yes, So people have
food noise for other reasons. There's different levels. I have
food noise right now, I'm dieting, Okay. If you're dieting,
you have food noise. It just hums with the fucking territory.
This is a real term, but it's also overused.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Yes, if you struggle with food noise, But you've also
done Weight Watchers five times, you've done Octavia a couple
of times, you've done low Carb, you've done Keto, you've
done Inner Manifesting, you've done hCG diet whatever in the past. Okay.
The answer is not going in microdosing with a telehealth company.

(50:42):
It's to stop fucking dieting and learn how to trust
yourself again and fuel your body, nourish your body, get
strong as fuck, become the bad bitch that you're capable
of being because we know you are, we believe in you.
We do it with our clients.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
That is one of the best ways, the best things
you can do to stop the food noise. Take back
the can control. Stop giving control to other people, to
your quote unquote condition, to your symptoms, to your menopausalness.
You can take that control back.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
I don't know if you saw my post I did
last night on Instagram, but I just posted like, hey,
this is the food I've been eating recently as a
mindful eater.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Oh yeah I saw that. Yeah, I got it.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
I got completely normal everyday food. There's no diet foods
in there, identify h galleries or anything like that. I
talked about fueling my body for my goals for performance,
and I got a couple of nice dms after that, like, Hey,
just I want to say thank you for normalizing food again.
And that's what we normalize food eating real food, normalized

(51:39):
bodies looking different, being different, not being dickskin thin, normalize
being a strong fucking badass, normalize eating ice, cream. Normalize
eating carbohydrates. Normalize not being fifteen percent body fat as
a woman. Normalize going to the gym and squatting your

(52:01):
body weight. Normalize going on a daily walk, Normalize mindful movement.
Normalize those things, and you'll be rised by how good
you feel, and how and how empowered you feel, and
how the food noise starts to go away when you
start doing things for the right reasons right on your
body instead of trying to fucking change your body because

(52:22):
you hate it.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Yeah, hunger is not a problem. Y'all can trust your body. Okay.
The solution is not external. It's not supposed to be expensive.
It's not supposed to be something that they can sell you.
That's not the solution.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Let to build resiliency, not dependency.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Mm hmm. Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Thank you, thank you. I'm just looking at some of
these other stats too. Some of these companies, oh my god,
thirteen hundred dollars a month. Some people get two hundred
and forty dollars per commission per sign up for or
these Tellhalth GLP one companies, Oh my god. And of
course we see still a lot of those other companies too,
like Noom launched GLP ones and late last year May

(53:10):
Watchers tried to launch their own GLP ones, right, the
same companies. So we going back to that food noise
and the diet culture. The same companies that have been
fucking you guys up for so long are now selling
GLP ones. Come on.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Also, let me just tell you im, I lose it up.
Every once a week We'll come up with a little
advertisement and I have to click no thanks with a
GOLP one ad.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Seriously, that's dirty fun.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
I have actually screenshotted a million times because okay, so
I'm just like a normal person, right just tracking my
food GLP one, d DA is this something for you?
And then it's like yes or no, no thanks. It's like,
what the fuck is going on? Not cool? We're literally
this is like drug adds coming up targeting people that

(53:55):
are focusing on fat loss or whatever they're doing. Maybe
they're not even trying to lose spot when they're maybe
they're anorexic and they're trying to fucking make sure they
eat enough. Because I know people that track because they
need to make sure they're eating enough. GLP want ads
on this ship. Bitch, fuck you. This pisces me off.
It never ends, Matt.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
I would be curious about if if an ad like
that pops up on a day when you went over
your calories or something, to see if there's a correlation there.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Next time that happened. Well, I don't, I don't currently,
so it's whatever. No, I don't, I can't, but it
comes up anyway. And here I am eating a specific
low amount of calories and it's coming up for me. Matt.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Yeah, that's dirty.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
It's dirty, it's not cool. So they're they're specifically targeting people.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Buck you lose it.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Yeah, this is what's going on. It's everywhere, it's in
you know. And someone's like, it's everywhere. There's nothing you
can do. Best it's like, fuck you. I'll do what
I can and nothing. I cannot raise a word is
no one else is.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Right, nothing you can do. That's bull That is a
bullshit complaint.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
You can't stand that. And people are like, there's and
then this other other one sent me a message yesterday
and she's like, you know, eating disorders have been around forever.
This is just something else. I don't know why you're
losing sleep over this just get back to your your
fitness and nutrition. That's why I'm following you.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Guse me fucking care about people, And I'm like.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
I didn't even answer it. In my mind. I'm like,
I lose sleep because I actually fucking care. I lose
sleep over clients that I had when I was one
on one coaching. It's because why do you think I
became a coach because I fucking care.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
We didn't come in to be coaching to pedal drugs.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
I mean, how could you be that fucking stupid? I'm sorry, No, fine,
It's just it's cold hearted to me. It's like, I'm here,
I'm not an influencer. I'm a fucking coach trying to
raise awareness about eating disorders and all the shit that's
going on, and you're gonna tell me they've been around forever.
There's nothing I could do stop losing sleepover it. Get
back to your regular fitness and nutrition content. Fuck off.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Yeah, eating disorders have been around forever, so fuck it right,
let's not talk about it. Eating disorders or like the
second leading cause of fucking dat.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
I mean, are you kidding me? Come on, this is
part of health and wellness, and it's of like the
women coming to me struggling and asking me what I
think about this, and like they're torn about what to do.
This is this is important?

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Mm hmm. I agree entirely, entirely, Myrtle. It's very important.
And I'm proud of you for I know you've been
losing followers. I'm proud of you for speaking up and
talking about these things. It's not easy.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Five thousand I've lost over the past few days. Five
grand that's.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
A lot of people. I didn't want to hear what
you had to say.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
That crazy, though, But that's when you know that I'm
actually making an impact because I'm triggering a lot of
fucking people.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Yeah, Oh, I posted something really cool in my stories yesterday.
I don't think I sent you. I don't know if
you saw it. But I'm a listener of our, a
listener of ours. When we first started our Patreon, she
said that she subscribed right away, but then she canceled
within a month or two because she's like, these guys
are full of shit and they don't know what they're
talking about. But then she actually ended up resubscribing a
couple of years later, and then she actually became a
client of mine. And she went through my mindful eating

(56:58):
program and she's down like forty five pounds after going
through my mind fleeting programs. Like one of those things
is like she just wasn't ready to hear what we
had to say.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Yeah, and I've heard a lot of people that unfollow
us or you know, and they're like, but then they
come back and they're like, I just wasn't ready to
hear the truth.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Yeah, yep. How those five thousand followers, a lot of
them will be back. Yeah, a lot of them will
be back. Yeah, you're doing the right thing. We're doing
the right thing by talking about these things. M M.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
I couldn't honestly live with myself if I just I
The thing is, I see it, and I see it,
and I see it and I see it over and
over and over again. I've been seeing this over and
over again for months now, and it's one of those
things that just kept building up and building up and
building up, and I'm like, I have to say something
because I know that I'm not the only one thinking this.
This is not normal, this is something's wrong with this.
I'm like, what is going on? What is happening? This

(57:47):
is becoming twisted and it's also mind fucking me where
I'm like, is this real? Should we be doing this?
You know what I'm saying? That fucking crazy to me?

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Yeah. The straw that broke the camel's back is essentially
like the discount whatever. There's discount codes and affiliate marketing
or associated with it.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Now, because that's what set me off. I just found
that out recently and I was like.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Yeah, I texted you a day or two ago. I'm like,
I'm kind of kind of out of the loop here,
like what can catch me up real quick? And once
then I started diving into them like yeah, this is
really fucked up. Yeah it is.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
It is all right.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
I guess we can go ahead and start wrapping up here,
hey real quickly. Since we're talking about like influencers and
shit like and ways that they shouldn't be doing. How
about we just promote our own shit real quick as
coaches because we can. We've worked with people about this,
about this with this type of stuff. Me personally, I've
got a challenge, new challenge. You just send it a challenge.
I think your team BFF did. I've got a challenge
coming up starting July twenty first, all for mindful eating.

(58:44):
So if like you're struggling with a lot of things
that we talked about here today, the messaging, the diet culture,
repairing your relationship with food. My Mindfullyting challenge is exactly
what that's designed to help people with. So that's starting
July twenty first. To send me a message if you
want to get if you want to get hooked up
with that, and I'll send you the details. What about yourself,
that's what do you right now? One on one coaching or.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
One on one coaching, and then we have our together
we're a stronger community. Coach Kelly writes the workouts and
there's like two power hours a week. There's like a
bunch of resources for nutritional guidance. It's basically, I like
a group coaching type thing like self guided you know,
self guided types stuff. But you yeah, it's nine to
ninety seven for the year. It's ninety nine or ninety
seven dollars for the months. You know, you could have

(59:24):
access to the coaches at the power hour to answer
ask questions and things like that. It's a whole community.
So that's what we have going on right now as well.
And then of course the one on one coaching if
you are taking a GLP one and you want guidance
with protein and strength training, nutrition behavior change, look as well.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Application away exactly one application away, no discount code, no
affiliate link.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Right yeah, just real deal.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
And you do comprehensive coaching.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Uh huh you do the work with your coach, you.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Know, absolutely absolutely, but yeah great, I think this is
really good compensation yourdle. We've been having some brilliant conversations lately,
and I know we've been getting good feedback on our
our episodes lately, so like, please keep the feedback coming.
We love we love to hear what you guys think
about our episodes, you know, good or bad, whatever it
might be. Yeah, we just want to hear from you.

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Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
And we love you for it. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well
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