July 25, 2025 • 51 mins
Fat loss - when done right, it's boring! That's exactly what we're talking about this week - the boring basics from fat loss plateaus to pizza trade-offs, we break down the boring basics most people skip, and why that’s exactly where you need to focus. We talk about macros, periodizing calorie deficits, emotional eating, volume vs. satisfaction, and the importance of performance-based goals.We also dive into a powerful (and disturbing) conversation about a viral interview where an 11-year-old was prescribed Wegovy - and why this signals a dangerous generational cycle of diet culture repeating itself yet again. Expect unfiltered takes, zero fluff, and practical mindset shifts you can use now - no fancy weight loss supplements or cortisol morning routines needed.Topics Covered:
- Why long, aimless calorie deficits backfire
- The difference between volume eating and just “eating more”
- The mental side of food boredom and emotional hunger
- When macros help and when they become a distraction
- Why your goal shouldn't just be fat loss
- Why it’s time to stop outsourcing your decisions to influencers
- Beth’s 5K a Day for Sobriety (starting Aug 1)
- Amy crushing it with our Patreon workouts
- Fit Fat Strong July Book Club: The Mountain Is You
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Owning it den means dealing with what happens after right
and own and accepting what happens after. I'm going to
I'm allowing myself to have this pizza, pizza because I
fucking want this pizza. Okay, great, even though I'm in
a deficit, I'm gonna make it work. Okay great. That
might mean then you're gonna have to sacrifice galories for
dinner if you're trying to hit your protein or hit
your A.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Lot of people do that. Oh I hit my calories
before dinner. What do I do now? Plan better?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Plan better?
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Yeah, plan better, that's what you do.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Take this as a learning lesson. You didn't fuck up.
You don't need to fucking be like everything is going
to shit. Just do better tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, now you know it?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
You learn? What did you learn from the situation?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
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Speaker 1 (00:46):
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Speaker 4 (01:34):
What up, Nerdle?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
What up? Nerdle? My friend? How are you today? I'm amazing,
You're amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I was gonna say, I'm a fucking amazing, I'm a.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Amazing human being. I'm good.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I'm happy to hear that. And we're doing a little
pivoting here this morning.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Pivoting, bitch, But you know what I'm used to it?
Bring it?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, okay, right, I feel like we're always saying that
at the beginning of a podcast, So we're pivoting.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Literally every day. I mean people.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Understanding specifics, like we're pivoting for something that's outside of
our control right now, and that's okay.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, we're still going to crush.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
So we had a guest today who I hope is
okay because they didn't show up, and so we're pivoting.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
We're pivoting. No, you all get us one on one.
Isn't that?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Aren't you excited?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yes? So nerdle, what is new with you?
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Let's see what is new. I'm currently having a nice
crispy die Coke.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I am five weeks left at my bikini pro.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I feel recommend.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I don't know what's going on, but I feel like
I have like more energy now and I just feel
really good, I mean feeling really strong in the gym,
and I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
You know, it's kind of interesting.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I feel like I had this like second wind because the
first few weeks even month of this cut have been brutal.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
But now, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Even with higher steps and you know, pretty depleted calories.
I mean sure, I'm not like under twelve hundred or anything,
but still for me, you know, for anybody, like, haven't.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
You gotten hasn't coach Kelly given you a couple of
maintenance days maybe.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, Yeah, I did have three maintenance days last week. Okay,
so maybe that's part of it. Sure, you know, you
never know. I think also I see the light at
the end of the tunnel. It's like, all right, we've
got five weeks left. It's like, let's fucking crush this,
let's fucking do it kind of kind of mentality, you know, Yeah, the.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Light is at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
And I think that's where so many people go wrong
with way loss and fouloss is they're just constantly losing, losing, losing, losing,
with no end goal, no end or anything in sight.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
And we say this all the time, right, like you
can't put a date to it, right, It takes as
long as it takes. But at the same time, you know,
if you're just aimlessly wandering, it's gonna seem exhausting, it's gonna.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Be this is this is a good actually topic right here.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
We could discuss about length of calorie deficits because we
always get this, like how long should I be in one?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
And I think what.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
People not understands that you should periodize your deficits, like
like we're talking about like what Matt was just saying,
like not having an end goal or an end anything.
You're just in it and you know you have nothing.
You don't have an end or a beginning or you
know what I mean, you have nothing. Go into it
with like a time of like how long you're going
to be in it, and then you're going to hit maintenance.
(04:20):
So let's say you want to do twelve weeks in
a deficit and you're going to go into maintenance for
thirty days.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yes, you know, like I think.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
It's so important to practice maintenance during your fat loss journey,
so you kind of know what it's going to be like,
like nothing better than practicing it right and then track
your maintenance. And then when you go back into a deficit,
you you have this timetable of like Okay, I'm going
to be in it for this amount of time and
then I'm going to be done for a while.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, it's like phases, right, Like yeah, it's just like
with our strength training with running, assuming we're following a
good structured plan with those things, right, you have a
four week block doing you know, a twelve week block,
but it's broken up into three four week segments, right,
these little meso cycles, then you dload perhaps. You know,
I just got off of a dload week last week
(05:09):
with running, you know, after a couple of months of
intense running building my mileage up.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
You know, you can't just be constantly going going down.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, Like you have to have a plan, and so
you don't aren't Like I don't know how long I
should be in a dupperture four. Well start out with
anywhere from eight to twelve weeks, right, and then put
that main ends time in there.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, especially if you're somebody that has a significant amount
of weight or I should say fat to lose, right,
if you're looking at you know, I hate putting number
to it. But let's say you're two hundred fifty pounds
and you want to get down into like one fifty. Okay,
that's gonna be really hard to say. Like we could
run some rough numbers and be like, okay, you know
you want to lose one hundred pounds. That's a pounds
(05:50):
a week, right, that's one hundred weeks. That sounds really intimidating,
like really long time, right, Okay, Well, maybe we go
in a twelve week block where we're aiming to lose
one to two pounds during that time or something per week,
and then we're going to spend a week or two
at me and it's refueling, re energizing, and then making
a new plan for the next twelve weeks.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, you need to give your body in mind a
break because you're going to hit that point where the
food noise will be louder, you're going to be not
as consistent, You're going to notice yourself starting to fucking slip,
and that it's when you need to take a break.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Uh huhh.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
This just reminded me something I've been hearing from a
couple of clients recently, but also social media is like
eating is boring, So like, especially I would love to
hear your perspective on this since you're in it right now,
Like you know, we talk about the boring basically.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Honey, you say that, Matt, because I've been getting like
I just wanted to make sure that I'm still having
fun while I'm eating. It's like, okay, So I like
where you're going with that because that's pretty much in
the nutshell what I've been hearing. It's like, well, I
still want to have fun. Okay, Well, first off, when
I hear that, I hear that you have no other
(06:59):
fun in your life. I hear that everything else is
boring and food is the only thing that gives you joy.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
That's a problem, right, You need to find.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
A fucking hobby.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, seriously, if the funnest thing for you to do
is fucking eat, you need a hobby.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Yeah, food is enjoyable and.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
All that stuff, but it's not like, just because you're
in a deficit doesn't mean you're not gonna have fun anymore.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Doesn't it mean your food has to taste like shit?
But yes it is.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
It can be boring. And guess what boring works. It's
the fact that you keep looking for shit with the
disco balls and fancy fucking sauces is your problem. Worrying
is fucking what works. It's like the people that you
look up to you want to look like whatever, just
(07:47):
know that their their life is boring and not. I'm
not saying that's bad. My life is boring, but I
like it this way. I don't need to go to
a fucking every night. You know. Yeah, it doesn't mean
right now it is a little boring because I'm doing
something that's you know, really regimented.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
But otherwise it does not have to be like that.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Correct correct, especially for most people too, right, it doesn't
need to be that regimented. You know, you're like we
say this time and time again, you're just getting super
dialed in. You have a really specific goal that you're
working towards. So for most people, doesn't need to be
that regimented. You just right now, with you having five weeks,
you don't have time to fuck around. You don't have
time to have quote unquote a lot of fun foods.
I mean, I know you still have desserts and things
(08:32):
like that, right.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, yeah, but it's it's you know, they're yogurt and
it's almond, you know, American dream not butter.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Yeah, but it's not like a fucking you know, cheesecake.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
You're not like me where I have I don't have
weight loss goals and fat loss goals right now. I've
got performance goals, and I'm like, calories aren't in my
vocabulary right now, right right, I know, Yeah, my question
is how can I get more calories? Usually a lot
of the time right now, so I have that flexibility
to have the fun foods every day if I want them.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, and we also you're you're very active, yes, Like
you said, you have performance goals, so you're you're fueling
for performance. Like the people that do not have performance
goals are fueling for.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Non performance goals.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, I'm saying, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
You're eating like you are running for a fucking merit,
you're training for a marathon.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I think people should have performance goals alongside weight loss goal.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, it doesn't need.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
To be run a marathon, doesn't need to be run
a half marathon. It could be Okay, I want to
do a pull up. I want to do a body
weight pull up, right, I want to do a chin up.
I want to do a push up. That's a performance goal,
and that's a really good indicator of improving your health,
improving your strength and your muscle mass, which is going
to help you with fat loss.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
If that's a goal of yours.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Someone asked me the other day and one of my
anonymous questions is having a chin up? Is learning how
to do chin ups overrated? And it's like absolutely fucking
absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Now, Well, never.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
To pull up and support your own body weight will
never be overrated.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
That is that's it's a great goal to have.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, my thirteen year old son has a goal of
getting chin ups. I think that's so fucking cool, right,
And so he's practicing with his trainer, and they're fucking hard.
So you know, he's doing things like essentially he has
to pull up pull his body weight, right, So he's
working on I think he's at sixty pounds of like
maybe like lap pull downs right now or something, you know,
(10:24):
which is like half of need to pull down more
of that. So they're practicing all that stuff, yep, inverted rose,
ring rose and all that.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, so I agree, So like it's great to have,
you know, if fat loss is a goal of yours, awesome,
But let's not let that be the only thing that
we're working towards. You know, Let's see how we can
improve our strength in other ways that are not related
to how our body looks or you know, our body composition.
It's usually right, show show me somebody that what that
(10:53):
can't do a pull up, that can't do a chin
up right now, and then show me in six months
they're regression, and if they're able to do one, I'll
show you somebody that's changed their body composition and has
built muscle mass and is likely lost body fat as
a result of that too. Yeah, performance goals are great.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Feeling your body is great.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I mean we should be feeling our body not just
for performance either, we should be feeling our.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Body for for fat loss too. Right.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, with fat loss, it's really about eating as much
food as possible while still losing body fat and still
seeing results.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, it's not eat as little as possible.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Right, And my salads are it's like a fucking trough.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, literally bigger than your heads, right.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Raise so much food, but the volume and that if
you want to stay more full, and you got to
eat lots of volume. And that's usually like in the
form of fruits and vegetables because they're not as highly quoric.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
And that's what right, what does that mean? Nerdle eat
lots of volume.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Like nutrient dense foods that are you know that you
can eat a lot of that are filling like fibrous. Right,
So all all the fruits and veggies you can load
up on that shit because they're not highly chloric. It's
not like eating like highly processed foods worth a ton
of fat. And you know a lot of sugar and
you're just fucking you're not getting full. It doesn't do
anything because there's no fiber, there's no protein, there's none
(12:15):
of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
So, while while it's true that it ultimately it comes
down to calories in calories out, you must be in
a calorie deficit. You want to make being in that
calorie deficit easier by eating a lot of food. I
know that can really confuse people, like, what do you
mean eat more food? I can't eat more. I can't
eat more food because I only get fourteen hundred calories
(12:37):
or something.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Right, somebody might.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Say, that's like when someone says eat that's a lot
of food on your plate. Yeah, okay, that's a lot
of it's a lot of high volume food that's going
to keep me full. I'm not eating a fucking bar
and a coffee. I want that bulk in my belly.
So that's going to last me till noon.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Right. You don't want to feel depleted as soon as you.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Eat, no, And that's what a lot of people are like,
I'm like hungry right after I eat a muffin. That's
like yep, because it's a loaded carbs, you have nothing.
It's going right through you. Like, there's no fiber, there's
no protein, there's no bulk.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
A muffin with like a piece of sausage, right, a
fatty piece of sausage and a slice of cheese.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Right, that's a lot of fat for a muffin.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
You know, there's there's swaps you could make to make
that lower calorie, lower fat, higher protein, higher fiber swap
out the muffin.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Like, that's one thing I had.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I've had bread twice already today and it's only one o'clock.
I had a peanut butter and jelly with Dave's Skiller
bread in the morning, So a whole grain option for that,
and that was before my run.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
So fueled my body from my run.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Then after my run I had, I made a bagel
with two eggs and a slice of American cheese on
a high fiber, high protein bread with a Greek kyogurt
with Siggey's yogurt. So that was a high fiber, high
protein option there too. Yeah, that was a lower calorie
because you know, there wasn't a lot of fat, and
you know, I had two eggs on it, but that's.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Not a lot of fat.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, I'm trying to lose that, right, you're just but
you're mindful too, you know that you you got to
do the things that make you feel good as well, right,
like eat protein and fiber. Yeah, you know, so you're
you're conscious of that. I think that's a good thing
as well.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
And also, like.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
When you think, like when we say, you know, if
it fits in your macros type thing, you gotta think
like is it worth You're in a deficit, right you
want a slice of pizza or you want a slice
of pizza every day, which is okay, but is it
worth being hungry? Because when you think about it, like
if I like my four hundred calorie salad, which is
(14:33):
so fucking big and so filling, how.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Long does it keep you satisfied when you eat a set?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I would say like from noon to three thirty four
o'clock almost dinner time.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
And then I'll have.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Like a good time period where a lot of people struggle.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
That three Yes, that's the and that's normal, I think.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
And and so that's when you have to have like
an either an emotional support beverage or you plan an
afternoon protein yogurt or some fruit or something. Yeah, not
that that's usually when people go off the rails. I
agree you don't have to plan for this because you
know every day before dinner you get hungry.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Plan for that shit pivot.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
But like having Let's say I could have a slice
of pizza that's four hundred calories or my salad that's
four hundred calories. Which one is going to be keep
me full till dinner.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Not the pizza.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Pizza definitely not the pizza, and I want to be
full till dinner. I don't want to sit here and starve,
like that's not fun to me. Also, I won't be
getting any protein from it probably like no nutrients. It's
not going to do anything for me. So it's okay,
Like I'm okay with saying no to the pizza. It's
not like I'm never going to have pizza again. I
think that's what people need to understand too. It's like,
you can make a choice that's going to head you
(15:40):
towards your goals, or you can make a choice that's
not either way, make the choice and be it okay
with it, Like stop like being mad at yourself or
making choices. Just know, like be have acceptance with your choices.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
When you make them absolutely own that shit, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Own it like Okay, I'm off the size of pizza,
No big fucking deal, and move on like you know yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
And then but then that's because the owning it then
means dealing with what happens after right and own and
accepting what happens after. I'm going to I'm allowing myself
to have this pizza pizza because I fucking want this pizza. Okay, great,
even tho I'm in a deficit, I'm gonna make it work. Okay, great.
That might mean then you're gonna have to sacrifice galories
for dinner if you're trying to hit your protein or
hit your A.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Lot of people do that. Oh I hit my calories
before dinner. What do I do now? Plan better?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Plan better?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Yeah, plan better. That's what you do.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Okay, take this as a learning lesson that you didn't
fuck up. You don't need to fucking be like everything
is going to ship. Just do better tomorrow. Yeah, now
you know it, you learn What did you learn from
the situation?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, it's like biggest, biggest mole, says I.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
No, I don't. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
So, like in the beginning of this bikini prep tracking macros. Right,
that's something new for me, and it's easy. It's easier now,
it wasn't before the skill. It is a skill like everything, right.
And so I was eating, let's say I was I
was eating my sandwiches with like some watermelon, and Kelly
kept saying, you need you need more bulk, best, you
(17:07):
need more bulk, right, But every day I was like
so hungry by like two o'clock and I'm like, what
does she mean by more bulk? That's you mean I
have to have a fucking bad gass salad and I can't,
not can't, but I probably shouldn't have my sandwich because
I'll be fucking hungry. And so I started having the
biggest solids and guess what, Yeah, that's working out better
for me. So it's like you can keep doing the
(17:28):
same fucking thing hoping it will change or realize that,
you know, if that's not really working out for me
right now, I need to pivot, right. And so when
you do that and it's like it starts to work,
You're like, Okay, why didn't I do this earlier? You know?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, I love it too.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
So just because something does fit your macros doesn't mean
it necessarily should be fitting to your macros all the time. Yeah, yeah,
And I think you know, if it fits your macros,
that's great for you know, I did it.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I took that approach for years.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
You know, twenty sixteen to like twenty eighteen is kind
of when I was. I was fucking around with with
macros when I worked with the coach in twenty sixteen.
But I also fit a lot of things into my
I wasn't worried about I don't even think I worried
about fiber back then.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
You know, protein was my main, my main thing.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
You know, I had protein, carbs, and fats, but I
never worried about fiber. And I know i'd have to
look back at my dialogue from because I still have
that in my fitness pewel. I know the food choices
I was making weren't necessarily great for overall health at
that time.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Sure, it got me shredded, it got maybe me lose
a bunch of body fat, and I got stronger, built muscle.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
But I remember how I felt. I didn't feel great.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
You know, I was defeated.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I was always constantly hungry because I was fitting things
in like nightly ice cream and treats, and I was
living off of to my protein goals. There was a
lot of protein bars, a lot of protein shakes, a
lot of protein supplement based foods, you know. And I'll
call myself this isn't calling myself out, but I know
when I was tracking macros. Now this is ten years ago,
(18:58):
twenty sixteen, but my calories were like eighteen fifty, you know,
and that's not necessarily low. But like me now right,
I'm like, that's like with my current life, like I
would be living.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
You would fucking die at eighteen fifty.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I would I need that flight for like a meal.
Sometimes I was gonna say, I mean, I'm.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Up to the point now one runs.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I'm doing half marathons going forward this starting this week,
and I run a lot of thirteen point one miles
for my long run, and it's still only going to
get progressively. I think towards the end of my training play,
I'm doing like twenty seven fucking.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Miles or something.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
You know. That's something.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah, but that's neither here nor there. So different goals,
right right, yeah, different goals.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
So yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
One thing I do notice too is that I am
eating a lot of fruits and vegetables. I'm eating not
a lot of highly processed foods, and I do have
to say, I feel really good, and I feel like
my skin looks really good, and so it's it does matter,
it does I you know, when I think about it,
I look back, it's like all the traveling with all
the candy, and you know, I fucking love sour candies.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
But I just I feel good.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Besides a little bit hungry, I just feel good right
now because I'm eating really well.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
You're giving your body, You're you're eating clean, broke clean.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Oh, the cleanest of the clean, cleanest of the Yeah,
for the most part.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Yeah, for the most part. I love that you threw
that in there. For the most part.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
That's something I've been We just started our our Mindful
Eating Challenge on Monday, and that's that was a concept
I introduced.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I challenged our challengers to adapt this week.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Is that for the most part, mentality, Like, y'all are
going to go out there, You're going to crush your habits,
your workouts, your daily cardio for the most part, right, Like,
I don't expect you to do these things every day.
Even when you do workout, sometimes you're sometimes you're not
gonna be able to do the full workout, right, I want
you to do it for the most part. That means
sometimes you're gonna get fifty percent of the workout in
or fifty percent of the effort, so fucking be it.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Mm hmm. It's flexibility.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
I think too.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Like, just continuing that talk about macros, maybe week you
don't go down that road a little bit here too,
because I know that, like you said, this is your
first time tracking macros for yourself.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
And I always get people to ask me like, how
do I figure out my macros And let me just say,
I don't know. I have microphones individualized Yeah, exactly, I
have my coach.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
My coach figured out mine for me.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I've always been the track your calories, your protein, and
your fiber. The carbs and fats are the rest of
the calories because I work with general population and honestly,
like really getting nitty and gritty is really about performance
esthetics and a lot of the times you guys just
need to figure out how to track calories. You just
need to figure out how to don't need to get
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lost in the weeds because macronutrients are calories.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Just so you know, right, it really is. Essentially you're
still tracking.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Calories guys, right because carbs, fats, and protein, those are macronutrients.
And so when you're tracking specific macronutrients, you have specific
numbers of each macronutrient to hit, and that can be
like tedious.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
It's a it's adding more pieces to the puzzle.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
And when we don't want to add more pieces to
the puzzle, when you just start because you get pissed off.
And I think this is where people quit tracking calories
is because you try to track macronutrients and you try
to be perfect with those numbers.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
And when you're not perfect with the numbers.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Because if you're a perfectionist mindset, trying to track macros
can fuck your day up.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Yeah, it could take you out.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Yeah, So is another reason I don't recommend it for
most people.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, and so that's why I'm like, you don't want
to do what I'm doing. What I'm doing is very tedious,
and if you ask me advanced, it's unnecessary honestly, you know,
And this would be an maybe situation for you if
you're a specific client with specific goals and maybe even
like Matt said, performance goals, we want to make sure
you're eating enough carbohydrates, So you might want to track that,
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you know, because some people can under eat those and
then not perform well. So there's different reasons for tracking macronutrients,
but most people don't need to do.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
That, agreed. Agreed.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
But like in terms of like how do I figure
out my macros, it's I mean, it's it is really
truly different for everybody, you know. Yeah, the one thing
that's that's constant are like your protein is always pretty
much going to be constant, and your fats are going
to be pretty constant too. Yeah, but like a standard
macro split would be and first of all, you do
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it off of your overall calories.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Is it like a thirty forty or forty, right, Yeah,
that's what I say.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Like, like a standards split would be thirty percent of
your calories from protein, thirty percent from carbs, forty percent
from fat or vice versa. Right, you can kind of
manipulate those a little bit, but it's not that fucking
like that figuring it out, Isn't that that's that would
be more enough to get started.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
You could even if I'll go on the TD calculator
dot that and they can figure out your specific carbs
and fats in protein.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
But why why bother like honestly, like.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Why put yourself through that fucking just mental gymnastics.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, I don't track macros with any of my clients
Nerdle We don't mostly either.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah, and some when I started with it.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, like if you have, like, I'm sure that your
clients maybe they're they're really getting dialed into physique or performance.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, now I'll call myself. I won't.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
This isn't necessarily calling myself up. But this is how
I've evolved as a coach. When I first started coming
into online coaching back in you know, twenty nineteen, I
came on as a macro coach. That was that was
my whole thing, is like, because that's what I knew.
That's what I knew from my online coach, and macros
worked really well for me up to that point, so
why would it work for everybody else?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
So I started, you know, here's your macros, here's your
check in, right. But what I found was that my
clients weren't getting great results back then with the macro approach.
And that's because the macros weren't the prop like they were.
They were having trouble sticking to macros. They were having
like because their behaviors weren't like this. They were stress eating,
emotional eating, so all these things right, So that's kind
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of how my coaching evolved then too. I was like, Okay,
we're focusing on things that don't matter because you're you
could have the perfect macro split. But if you're if
you're stress eating and emotionally eating, binge eating, restricting, whatever
the macros are aren't gonna matter, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, That's what I try to keep telling everyone on
the internet. It's like I can give you my what
I'm doing, my whole entire plan, but listen, you got
other shit.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
I'm an individual.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
You're coaching so much shit for not sharing your specifics.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
But Matt, I have I ever shared my specifics on
social media at any point on my social media existed.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Not even when you were like building and in me
is exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I've never talked about my weight. I've never talked about
my calories. Maybe on the Actually on the podcast is
the only place I've ever discussed pover.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Get to it. That's it, because are the real ones
are listening?
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Yes? Because they we can go into more context.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yes, right, you can't really do.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
That in the fucking two minute video.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
No, so yeah, I couldn't believe the amount of shit
that I was getting for not disclosing my specific calorie
deficit number. You're you're not letting it? How entitled are
some I mean, are you fucking out of your mind?
It makes no sense for you to know this information?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Like the one woman said she won't share her plan
because she doesn't have a plan.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah what, I'm secretly micro dosing even though she saw Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Come on, sure people do that, but you ain't that bitch.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
No, definitely fucking not. Oh my god, No, definitely not.
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
And then you know, I have three other people on
my team doing this with me. What are we all
fucking micro dosing and fucking doing weird shit? I mean,
get a fucking life.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Okay, Well, I mean I think that's just a projection,
though too people want that to be the case because
that's the answer that right. They want you to be
secretly microdosing because some influences have done.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
That, right, or they can't imagine actually being consistent with
something the way you should be to get results, Like
there's no other way. It's like this has been a process, Like,
did you guys forget all last year when I was
training and eating and it was at an uncomfortable wait
and I was talking about it, did you fucking forget
that whole entire year?
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Like?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I mean, now it's like where I'm getting did some
body fat that I've accumulated?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
So has the attention to the attention span and the
memory of a fly?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Right, Like they either weren't here, they didn't see that,
or they forgot that you were last year, that you
were intentionally building and you were gainly as a result
of that, and then you went into maintenance periods, you
went into little mini cuts, and then you went yeah, right,
and then you got dialed in.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
So saying there's parodizations of this too, And some of
those mini cuts were to figure out what my calories
would be during this. You have to figure out a
lot of stuff before this happens, because there's time based
stuff in here. So it's like, okay, let's do a
thirty minute, thirty minute, thirty day mini cut.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Let's see like what calories would work.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And so that mini cut it got me somewhere, but
we needed to go lower for this. Yeah, So it's
like you do things for a fucking reason.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
And again, these strategies that we're talking about are more advanced.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Strategies, and this is why you hire a coach.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yes, I can't.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Stress enough why you would not follow my plan or
best planned that's for us.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
We give you your specific plan for your specificals. What
trend is I guess your way and follow other people's
plans when.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
You could just hire a coach.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
And I'm not saying this because I am a coach
or Matt's a coach, but take the guesswork away. I
don't know, I would not know how to do this
without coach Kelly, Like she is walking me through this,
and I'm a coach.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
I mean, yeah, I'm learning so much, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
So it's like, you know, instead of like trying to
figure out your numbers and consistently getting shit wrong or
not knowing what to do, get a guide, call your guide,
you know.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Ye that flash right down the fucking dark trail for you.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah right, I like that. Yeah, shining light on things
that you don't know need to be have light showing
on them.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, Like you're doing this thing. Why are you doing
this thing. Oh I didn't realize I was doing this thing. Okay, cool,
now we can change.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
It, right, Yeah, it's not that deep.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
So you're also like, your your activity levels are pretty high,
where like I know you shared what they are, Like
your your steps.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
I'm strength trained for days a week.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Strength training days, my steps are seventeen to eighteen thousand,
and on my off training days they're eighteen to twenty k.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Got it, I just go to twenty k.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah that's high. That's high.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Oh dude.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I mean I was struggling to get fucking sixteen thousand
steps and admittedly, like I wasn't planning like I should.
So now I'm like, you know what, Beth, you need
to fucking plan this shit. Stop fucking around so you
know we're doing this for ourselves. I am guilty to
you guys. Okay, I was bitching at my team meeting
how hard it was to get sixteen thousand steps, and
then she ups my steps, you know what I'm saying.
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So it's like, what am I doing now? I am
getting up earlier in the morning to get them done.
I know now what it takes to get this shit done,
and I'm doing it. Yeah, does that mean it's easy. No,
But I'm still a mom. I'm still working, I'm still podcasting,
I'm still going to meetings, I'm still running a fucking business.
Like everyone, everyone's busy, right and it's like I don't
have time when I worked twelve hours day. I have
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four kids, And it's okay, okay, you need to prioritize
this shit. You do have time, you're just probably spending
it on useless shit right now.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
So right now, we have a book club that we
do every month inside fifth that's strong and the book
we're reading right now is The Mountain.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Is you.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Oh, that's one of your faves, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, it's about self sabotage. And I'm listening to it
on audio this time around. And the part that I
listened to yesterday was when somebody says that they're too busy.
So many people are going to get called out by this.
Nobody's too busy. That's virtue signaling, is what she said.
It's virtue signal. You take the busiest people in the world,
people with the most chaotic schedules. They're not saying that
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they're too busy. We're finding the fucking way. It's a
lack of planning, it's a lack of priority. It's a
lack of awareness too that maybe you don't realize what
our time sucks in your life. You feel like you
have no time, but our feelings can lie to us.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Mm hmm right. Or you thrive on chaos or actually,
do you really thrive on chaos?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Do you thrive on chaos or is that chaotic environment
keeping you comfortable?
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Yeah? I see that a lot.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
H Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Absolutely, It's like you don't know what to do unless
you're creating your own chaos.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
It's a former self sabotage, is what that is.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I'm just it's like, slow the fuck down, Sit down
for a minute. Yeah, got five fucking minutes.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Breathe.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I asked somebody in my comments yesterday to slow down
and take it, to put the phone down and take
a breath, and they blocked. Mean, this woman was pretty
triggered in my comments.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
So, yeah, people get so triggered these days and we're
stupidest fucking shit. It actually just makes me crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yeah, you know what she was triggered about.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
It was triggered about that video I made about the
eleven year old being put on a GLP one.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Medication, So what was what was she upset?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
He's like, what if she had asthma and she needed
asthma medication, You're just going to tell her to breathe better.
I'm like, how did you come up with that conclusion
based off of what I just said in this video?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Because she's not smarter than a fucking sixth grader, that's why.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
So for context for our listeners here, and I know
we kind of want to talk about this too. It's like,
there was this viral video of this interview with this
mother and her eleven year old daughter where the mother put.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Her eleven year old daughter on a GLP.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
One medication week go v okay. That's in my opinion,
this is where we're crossing a fucking line. It's really
getting out of hand here. And we say it time
and time again, we're not anti GLP one medications, we're
anti them being abused. Why the fuck does an eleven
year old girl set in second grade need to be
put on a GLP one medication?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
She wasn't even obese like she did it.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Because here's the thing she and this is what breaks
my heart about that interview anybody please go watch the interview.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
It's ten minutes long on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
A good morning show I think it's a UK show
was interviewing this mother and daughter from my and She's like,
I felt great and I thought I was pretty until
I started getting bullied and people started telling me that
I was fat and overweight. Right, So she felt great
about herself until society started telling her that she was
not good enough, until the society her peers started ridiculing
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her for her look. So was oh, well, I see
mom doing this thing. Hey mom, can I do this? Yeah,
you can do it? No, no quote, no second thoughts.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
So we were we're telling the kid that, yeah, something's
wrong with your body because these people said there was
something wrong with your right.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
She was happy and confident, thought she was beautiful before.
This eleven year old girl thought this until people started
breaking her down. Then I don't she wanted to start
changing her body to till the bullying stops.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Right.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I blame I blame the I fully blame the mother
one hundred. She is literally it's the consistent cycle. It's
the mom's issue. A because the mom, I think she
is also on the way. Yeah, yeah, this is to
me a typical like let's lose weight together situation. I
don't know, Like you know when moms used to take
their daughters to fucking weight watchers with them, right, it's
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usually an eleven or twelve year old daughter.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
They're going through puberty.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Like you know, Johnny has a belly fat because he's
going through puberty.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
And they grow out and then they grow up. It's normal.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
So n't even had a chance to go through it's
not like growing, they're changing.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
What the fuck does this do to them?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
This is poor child have to be and now on
a weight loss drug for the rest of her fucking
life because her mom ended.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
I mean, what is going on here?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
She's like muscle, the.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Belloping bones, all this shit is is happening, and she's
not eating enough now right her like.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Her mom has to remind her to eat. An eleven
year old child, she has to remind to eat. And
now she has no idea what what hunger fullness feels
like at eleven years old.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
I'll never know.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Because we're putting them on these extreme diets at eleven
years old. And this is what we talk about like this,
it starts then at that age. This this poor girl
is being set up for a lifetime of fucking dieting
yo yo dieting. And she was already alluding to that
in the interview too. It's like, it's like I had
tried to lose weight. I lost weight on my own,
and an eleven year old saying this, I lost some
weight on my own, but I gained it back.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
So she was already yo yo dieting before that too,
you know.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
And then after she stopped taking the medication, guess what happened.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
She gained some of the weight back. She said, So like,
damn it, we're setting this poor girl. She doesn't even chance.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah that she was talking about inflammation. It's like, where
is she hearing this?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
My face and my arms? I lost inflammation? No, you
lost body fat. Who the fuck is calling? Who is
saying this shit to you?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
I can't She's after sucking these kids up? Serious?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Still, Yeah, have we not learned anything? I mean the
toxic di cultures of the eighties, nineties and early.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Two thousands, No, we haven't, and we're just we're evolving
into worse and worse die culture.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
The last few years, I thought we were coming a
long way with body neutrality and body acceptance and loving
ourselves more and really putting the emphasis on showing up
for ourselves and how we feel. But now that we
can get a discount code for GLP ones anywhere from
our favorite influencers, that's just gone off the fucking door.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Honestly, Like I think golp one, the fact that it's
a life saving medication for some people, I honestly it's
a double edged sword. And this goes with everything. It's
going to be the next crisis because we're going to
have undermuscled and boneless women walking around breaking bones everywhere. Yeah,
because a lot of these people are not doing what
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they need to be doing and losing a shit ton
of weight right unsupervised medication.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
And never mind the fact that this girl's eleven and
there are no weight loss drugs that are approved for
eleven year old to be taken, So who the fuck
is giving her these drugs? We GOVI has approved for
people as young as twelve years old, but she ate
twelve when she took these drugs, So.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Who the fuck gave her this prescription? I don't know why,
you know.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
And and in the interview too, they said things like
we tried diet and exercise.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
We did the diet and exercise. She's eleven.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
What do you mean you did the diet and exercise
she's been How long has she been quote unquote exercising? Right,
These are all questions I have. I want to know.
You know, it's just.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Dumbfounding. Dum dumb founds me.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
It is dumbfounding.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, we're we're not even giving our kids a chance.
And and I know and this because this is like
my a lot of clients that I work with, and
I know probably for you and your team too, Beth,
forty to sixty years year old women that maybe don't
have a great relationship with food and their body right.
Body image isn't the greatest. And we talk to our
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clients like I have clients that I know for a fact,
at eleven years old, we're going to with the wait
watchers with their mom. I've had clients that went to camps.
I don't even know if that's still a thing, but
they were set to fat camps at the age of
ten and eleven years old. That's all this is is
just di you culture repackaged. It's it's new fat camps,
it's new ways to restrict it's new ways to tell
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our young women of this generation that they're not good
enough for society. Yeah, that they're flawed, that they're broken,
not even giving them a fucking chance. And it's heartbreaking.
It's heartbreaking, And I don't understand how people can hear
what we're saying about these things and take and interpret
any other way, Like how does that mean, like we're
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anti people having these drugs? No, we're we want the
right people to have these drugs. But like an eleven
year old who these drugs aren't even approved for, is
not who should be having these drugs, right, mother? Like, sorry, mom,
if this is shamey, but like the mother should should
have should do better, Like as parents, we need to
be doing better.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
No, I think she should be shamed. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
And the girl even said that in the interview, like
I saw mom doing this and I asked her if
this this would be right for me, And the mom's
reaction right away was absolutely absolutely yeah, without a doubt, Dinny,
second fucking guess it that this is right for my
eleven year old.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
It's because her daughter's her best friend.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Matt Oh, yeah, like we just got to be our
kids friends.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah, do you know what I'm saying like this, this
goes to the let's do, let's lose, spat together bullshit.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah, it's fucking typical, literally a fucking cycle consistently.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
It's still happening.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Generational, fucking fuck generational. Still it's still going on. It's seventies, eighties, nineties,
two thousands, we're still doing this shit.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Yeah I could.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
We could probably trace it back multiple generations, right with
with you. Young women that are struggling, their mother probably
struggled and projected a lot of those food issues body
issues onto their daughter, and that mother's mother probably did
the same with her. You know, like we know, like
that's how it works.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
But get it.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
But yeah, we get it.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
I understand. I mean, coming from seventies eighties child living
with a diet culture mother, I have had to literally
think about everything a million times over with my own
son because of my own fucked up mind that I've
had to fix, right, and it's still that shit's still deep.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Sometimes you have to do the fucking work on yourself
so you don't fuck up your own kid. That's what
you need to do. And I know it's not easy.
I get it, but you. That's what you need to do,
because it's your fucking responsibility. Your child is going to
be an adult one day and they are going to
end up with an eating disorder, or they're going to
do the same fucking thing that you are currently when
it's Yoyo died in your entire life, hating themselves skinny
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over and over and over again because you didn't stop
the fucking cycle.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Right yeah, this is where this is how eating disorders
are born, right right here, right now. We talked about
this last week with doctor Lauren. Right, a lot of
menopausal women are starting, like the numbers of eating disorders
and menopausal women are starting to increase, And I you know,
I would argue that those it's just now being acknowledged,
like they probably always had these issues because it's probably
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been a lifelong thing for them.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I could tell with the amount of menopausal women that
are on the internet with their micro dosing GLP ones.
They're targeting menopausal women. These women are already thin, targeting
menopausal women because they they themselves already have a shitty
fucking body image. Okay, these people that are pushing this stuff,
they have disorders, They have disordered eating Yeah, you just
don't think they do, and they're not acknowledging they do.
(41:30):
They don't think they do. They just have severe body dysmorphia,
disordered eating all of it. They're they're literally fucking showing
you front page in a video that they're fucked up.
I'm sorry, it's so true. Like if you're micro dosing
a GLP one when you're fucking got six pack abs
or you want six pack abs because your fucking need
to lose that lost ten pounds, you need fucking help.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
If you're doing that shit, you.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Need therapy, not a you need to Yes.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
You need therapy.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
And and then the fact that everyone's listening to you,
that's another problem.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Yeah, only therapy.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
You shouldn't be listening to a fucking makeup artist who's
pushing microducing JLP ones for nutrition and for fucking whatever
the fuck she's doing, right, Like that's your first mistake.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
We shouldn't just be listening to somebody just because they're
shredded either, like exactly, you know, somebody's body is not
their business card, and if it is their business card,
like that's a shitty business model.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
You know.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
The the amount of like.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
It's honestly disgusting to me the amount of women that
just literally show their bodies as if it's their fucking
business card and they're like just walking down the fucking
sand in the beach with their fucking six pack and
they're fucking needle in their hand. It's like, no, that
is not my menopausal right of pass, which I'm sorry,
like like you know what I'm saying, it's just fucking gross.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
It's not I don't know what the word is for it,
but it's just like look at me. I don't know, well.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
It gives that to me. It's like, oh, you want
this body too.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Here's like like yeah, it's just like you can do
this too. It's like, no, that's not do it.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
You can do it. That's what it's giving.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's great to be proud of
yourself and all the work you've done. Like I, you know,
do like to be four as and aftors and look
at my muscles. It's it's probable I'd be proud, but
I'm not like saying, hey, look you can do this too,
be like me six pack abs and fucking six months.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Literally saying you don't want my code.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
You're doing right, that's because you're a good coach and
you're not just you know, and at a bamboozle people
and have a discount code to sell some supplements and microdos.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
But if all these people do all their videos is
all of them just all they do is show their
six pack aps, they're not really ever giving you any
educational fucking information like body check videos, every single one
of them.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Body check out what I eat in a Video's like.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
To me, yeah, yeah, I don't know. That's not real life.
Guys like to me, that's not real life. That's like
fucking fake ass ship.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
And also like why six pack abs? Who the why
do we want them six pack as? If you want to,
like we walking around with six pack abs invisible abs constantly.
Why organization are you seeking? Do people realize how fucking
hard it is to get there and stay there? Huh No,
(44:22):
it's hard as enough. It's hard enough to get there.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
I got five weeks into this bikini prep laughed, and
I don't I still don't have six pack apps.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
Guys, Okay, yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, you
have no fucking idea.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Our idea of our picture of fitness is so distorted.
We have such we have so such fucked up expectations.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
It is we're not realistic as to what's what? What
was it?
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Natural normal body looks like, what a real amount of
muscle looks like, when natural physiques look like.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
And you don't know what these people are doing either. Yeah,
they're there, they're like microdocing GLP one, But what else
are they doing?
Speaker 4 (44:58):
Who knows? Who the buck knows? I don't even know what.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
I don't know doctor Louren.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Last week, you know we talked about getting that bulky look, right,
how that doesn't happen by an accident. That's really intentional
and you probably have some help with pharmaceuticals. Yeah, that
is the reality of fitness influencing.
Speaker 4 (45:17):
Are they called peds.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
PD performance enhancing drugs?
Speaker 4 (45:20):
Yeah? I know those are pretty easy to get too.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Yeah, you can get anything on the internet.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
I could probably start getting fucking caps on my shoulders
too if I get if I got some peds. Yeah,
because the way I've been doing fucking goddamn lot raises,
I should have fucking stops by now.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
And I don't you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
So it's like people don't understand, like to get that
the look like these looks sometimes like you gotta wonder
m hm, yeah, for sure, I don't. You know, I'm
not saying everyone's on them, but ny a lot more
people are than you think.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
You'd be surprised though, with the fitness industry once when
you're educated and knowledgeable, like and you know what goes
on behind the scenes, like we do.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
You know, it's shit, it's smoking mirrors.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yeah, we are so anti influencers mm hmmm, because we
know if they're telling you to look here, just don't
go look over here, you know.
Speaker 4 (46:09):
Yeah right solusions.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
All right, yeah, yeah, So I went to I mean
kind of shifting gear here a little bit. I have
two gym memberships still, but I've been going to like
Planet Fitness a lot this this summer, primarily working out
with Riker, yeah, because he really enjoys Planet Fitness. But
I got to work out on my own yesterday. I
went back to like my og gym, the one I've
(46:34):
been going to for more than a decade, and that
just felt, yeah, felt so right to be there. And
that's where, you know, when when I got there, because
I hadn't been there in a couple of months. It's like, man,
I just miss being down in this basement and just
lifting heavy.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
It's pretty cool. I have to say I liked working
out there. I like Old I like Old Gym's like that.
Like that to me is way better than Planet Fitness.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
And yeah, there's the community aspects that that goes there,
Like I have never like like Planet Fitness is friendly,
but like I've never met anybody at Planet Finnis. I
don't know anybody at Planet Finnis unless I know him
from like my other gym or like just being around,
you know, but like it's missing that community component, that
that tight knit component that. Yeah, I think fitness is
(47:17):
really all about about, you know, getting or and picking
people up.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
I pick that at my home gym.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
I miss also having the access to like a barbell
section and weights that are over seventy five pounds.
Speaker 4 (47:28):
It's very like limited.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yeah, well love plant finish for a lot of things.
But it's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
I go there.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
No barbell work obviously.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
I got the barbelle in the trap bar here in
my home gym, and I got the hack spat and
the leg pro. They have that stuff there, but they
don't have like nice they don't have barb bell stuff.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
No barbells though, And I got to say, I am
really itching with to do some more barbell work.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
I keep saying this, but and I don't.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
I'm not committing to it yet because I want to
make sure that it's it's it feels right and it's
the right time for me to really start building that
back up. I'm just doing bar bell work and powerlifting
type stuff, you know, so we'll see.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
Where that goes.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Yeah, right, speaking of that, Speaking of the gym, I
just volunteered at a five k last week too. That
was a lot of fun. Saw that were that home gym.
People are asking me, why aren't you runing? I'm like, well,
first of all, I'm running twelve miles tomorrow. I just
want I just want to be here to connect with people.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
So yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
Really quick, I'm going to remind people before we get going,
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Speaker 3 (48:28):
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(48:50):
the focus, you know, when I was getting people set
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I'm just loving the focus that it gives me.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
So check it out.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Yeah, and one last thing, Patreon, we've been getting some
good interaction in our in our Patreon group. Yeah, that
we have for that, so check that out too, guys,
like Amy has been shouting us out on our social media,
so she posted a picture of the tricep and shoulder
definition that she's got.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
My god, I got it. I haven't seen that yet.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
She's looking great, she's looking strong, So shout out to
Amy crushing our Patreon workouts. So, guys, five bucks a
month for monthly workout planning our Patreon I used to start.
And I think we're going to probably celebrate here for
our anniversary, coming up with some type of promo, so
who knows, who knows? Oh yeah, but it's been a good, good,
good pivot episode for us.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
Snirtle Yes.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Oh, one last thing, I can announce my five k
a day in August. Yes, okay, so I'm turning. I'm turning.
I am having my ten year sober anniversary. A fucking decade,
you guys. Yeah, let's go on August twenty first. So
every year, if you have been following me for a while,
you know, I do the August five K Day to
raise awareness for addiction. That starts next Friday, is August first, buddy,
(50:00):
And that is just walk, run, biker hike. Five k's
three point one miles, okay, And so this is to
do on your own. There's no prizes. I do this
every year. It's just to raise awareness for addiction. You
can post in your stories and tag me that you're
doing it. I'll be talking more about it on social media.
But that starts next Friday, and it's a five K day,
(50:22):
and I'll be doing a five K day obviously.
Speaker 4 (50:24):
I mean I already do that. I have to. So
this is just part of it now.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
Good way to get dialed in. Yeah, doing for good
reason too.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
So yeah, like you said, you'll talk about it more
on social media, and I'm sure we'll talk.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
About last week on our podcast too.
Speaker 4 (50:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
Yeah, yeah, I love it. I love it for good
reason good cause. Yes, awesome. Well good episode, nerdle.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Yeah, we'll chat with you all later.
Speaker 4 (50:47):
All right, bye guys, Bye bye.
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Speaker 3 (51:09):
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Owning it den means dealing with what happens after right
and own and accepting what happens after. I'm going to
I'm allowing myself to have this pizza, pizza because I
fucking want this pizza. Okay, great, even though I'm in
a deficit, I'm gonna make it work. Okay great. That
might mean then you're gonna have to sacrifice galories for
dinner if you're trying to hit your protein or hit
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Lot of people do that. Oh I hit my calories
before dinner. What do I do now? Plan better?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Plan better?
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Yeah, plan better, that's what you do.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
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Speaker 2 (01:40):
I was gonna say, I'm a fucking amazing, I'm a.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Amazing human being. I'm good.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I'm happy to hear that. And we're doing a little
pivoting here this morning.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Pivoting, bitch, But you know what I'm used to it?
Bring it?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, okay, right, I feel like we're always saying that
at the beginning of a podcast, So we're pivoting.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Literally every day. I mean people.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Understanding specifics, like we're pivoting for something that's outside of
our control right now, and that's okay.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, we're still going to crush.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
So we had a guest today who I hope is
okay because they didn't show up, and so we're pivoting.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
We're pivoting. No, you all get us one on one.
Isn't that?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Aren't you excited?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yes? So nerdle, what is new with you?
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Let's see what is new. I'm currently having a nice
crispy die Coke.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I am five weeks left at my bikini pro.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I feel recommend.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I don't know what's going on, but I feel like
I have like more energy now and I just feel
really good, I mean feeling really strong in the gym,
and I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
You know, it's kind of interesting.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I feel like I had this like second wind because the
first few weeks even month of this cut have been brutal.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
But now, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Even with higher steps and you know, pretty depleted calories.
I mean sure, I'm not like under twelve hundred or anything,
but still for me, you know, for anybody, like, haven't.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
You gotten hasn't coach Kelly given you a couple of
maintenance days maybe.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, Yeah, I did have three maintenance days last week. Okay,
so maybe that's part of it. Sure, you know, you
never know. I think also I see the light at
the end of the tunnel. It's like, all right, we've
got five weeks left. It's like, let's fucking crush this,
let's fucking do it kind of kind of mentality, you know, Yeah, the.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Light is at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
And I think that's where so many people go wrong
with way loss and fouloss is they're just constantly losing, losing, losing, losing,
with no end goal, no end or anything in sight.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
And we say this all the time, right, like you
can't put a date to it, right, It takes as
long as it takes. But at the same time, you know,
if you're just aimlessly wandering, it's gonna seem exhausting, it's gonna.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Be this is this is a good actually topic right here.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
We could discuss about length of calorie deficits because we
always get this, like how long should I be in one?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
And I think what.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
People not understands that you should periodize your deficits, like
like we're talking about like what Matt was just saying,
like not having an end goal or an end anything.
You're just in it and you know you have nothing.
You don't have an end or a beginning or you
know what I mean, you have nothing. Go into it
with like a time of like how long you're going
to be in it, and then you're going to hit maintenance.
(04:20):
So let's say you want to do twelve weeks in
a deficit and you're going to go into maintenance for
thirty days.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yes, you know, like I think.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
It's so important to practice maintenance during your fat loss journey,
so you kind of know what it's going to be like,
like nothing better than practicing it right and then track
your maintenance. And then when you go back into a deficit,
you you have this timetable of like Okay, I'm going
to be in it for this amount of time and
then I'm going to be done for a while.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, it's like phases, right, Like yeah, it's just like
with our strength training with running, assuming we're following a
good structured plan with those things, right, you have a
four week block doing you know, a twelve week block,
but it's broken up into three four week segments, right,
these little meso cycles, then you dload perhaps. You know,
I just got off of a dload week last week
(05:09):
with running, you know, after a couple of months of
intense running building my mileage up.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
You know, you can't just be constantly going going down.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, Like you have to have a plan, and so
you don't aren't Like I don't know how long I
should be in a dupperture four. Well start out with
anywhere from eight to twelve weeks, right, and then put
that main ends time in there.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, especially if you're somebody that has a significant amount
of weight or I should say fat to lose, right,
if you're looking at you know, I hate putting number
to it. But let's say you're two hundred fifty pounds
and you want to get down into like one fifty. Okay,
that's gonna be really hard to say. Like we could
run some rough numbers and be like, okay, you know
you want to lose one hundred pounds. That's a pounds
(05:50):
a week, right, that's one hundred weeks. That sounds really intimidating,
like really long time, right, Okay, Well, maybe we go
in a twelve week block where we're aiming to lose
one to two pounds during that time or something per week,
and then we're going to spend a week or two
at me and it's refueling, re energizing, and then making
a new plan for the next twelve weeks.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, you need to give your body in mind a
break because you're going to hit that point where the
food noise will be louder, you're going to be not
as consistent, You're going to notice yourself starting to fucking slip,
and that it's when you need to take a break.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Uh huhh.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
This just reminded me something I've been hearing from a
couple of clients recently, but also social media is like
eating is boring, So like, especially I would love to
hear your perspective on this since you're in it right now,
Like you know, we talk about the boring basically.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Honey, you say that, Matt, because I've been getting like
I just wanted to make sure that I'm still having
fun while I'm eating. It's like, okay, So I like
where you're going with that because that's pretty much in
the nutshell what I've been hearing. It's like, well, I
still want to have fun. Okay, Well, first off, when
I hear that, I hear that you have no other
(06:59):
fun in your life. I hear that everything else is
boring and food is the only thing that gives you joy.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
That's a problem, right, You need to find.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
A fucking hobby.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, seriously, if the funnest thing for you to do
is fucking eat, you need a hobby.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Yeah, food is enjoyable and.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
All that stuff, but it's not like, just because you're
in a deficit doesn't mean you're not gonna have fun anymore.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Doesn't it mean your food has to taste like shit?
But yes it is.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
It can be boring. And guess what boring works. It's
the fact that you keep looking for shit with the
disco balls and fancy fucking sauces is your problem. Worrying
is fucking what works. It's like the people that you
look up to you want to look like whatever, just
(07:47):
know that their their life is boring and not. I'm
not saying that's bad. My life is boring, but I
like it this way. I don't need to go to
a fucking every night. You know. Yeah, it doesn't mean
right now it is a little boring because I'm doing
something that's you know, really regimented.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
But otherwise it does not have to be like that.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Correct correct, especially for most people too, right, it doesn't
need to be that regimented. You know, you're like we
say this time and time again, you're just getting super
dialed in. You have a really specific goal that you're
working towards. So for most people, doesn't need to be
that regimented. You just right now, with you having five weeks,
you don't have time to fuck around. You don't have
time to have quote unquote a lot of fun foods.
I mean, I know you still have desserts and things
(08:32):
like that, right.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, yeah, but it's it's you know, they're yogurt and
it's almond, you know, American dream not butter.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Yeah, but it's not like a fucking you know, cheesecake.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
You're not like me where I have I don't have
weight loss goals and fat loss goals right now. I've
got performance goals, and I'm like, calories aren't in my
vocabulary right now, right right, I know, Yeah, my question
is how can I get more calories? Usually a lot
of the time right now, so I have that flexibility
to have the fun foods every day if I want them.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, and we also you're you're very active, yes, Like
you said, you have performance goals, so you're you're fueling
for performance. Like the people that do not have performance
goals are fueling for.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Non performance goals.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, I'm saying, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
You're eating like you are running for a fucking merit,
you're training for a marathon.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I think people should have performance goals alongside weight loss goal.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, it doesn't need.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
To be run a marathon, doesn't need to be run
a half marathon. It could be Okay, I want to
do a pull up. I want to do a body
weight pull up, right, I want to do a chin up.
I want to do a push up. That's a performance goal,
and that's a really good indicator of improving your health,
improving your strength and your muscle mass, which is going
to help you with fat loss.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
If that's a goal of yours.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Someone asked me the other day and one of my
anonymous questions is having a chin up? Is learning how
to do chin ups overrated? And it's like absolutely fucking
absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Now, Well, never.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
To pull up and support your own body weight will
never be overrated.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
That is that's it's a great goal to have.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, my thirteen year old son has a goal of
getting chin ups. I think that's so fucking cool, right,
And so he's practicing with his trainer, and they're fucking hard.
So you know, he's doing things like essentially he has
to pull up pull his body weight, right, So he's
working on I think he's at sixty pounds of like
maybe like lap pull downs right now or something, you know,
(10:24):
which is like half of need to pull down more
of that. So they're practicing all that stuff, yep, inverted rose,
ring rose and all that.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, so I agree, So like it's great to have,
you know, if fat loss is a goal of yours, awesome,
But let's not let that be the only thing that
we're working towards. You know, Let's see how we can
improve our strength in other ways that are not related
to how our body looks or you know, our body composition.
It's usually right, show show me somebody that what that
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can't do a pull up, that can't do a chin
up right now, and then show me in six months
they're regression, and if they're able to do one, I'll
show you somebody that's changed their body composition and has
built muscle mass and is likely lost body fat as
a result of that too. Yeah, performance goals are great.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Feeling your body is great.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I mean we should be feeling our body not just
for performance either, we should be feeling our.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Body for for fat loss too. Right.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, with fat loss, it's really about eating as much
food as possible while still losing body fat and still
seeing results.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, it's not eat as little as possible.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Right, And my salads are it's like a fucking trough.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, literally bigger than your heads, right.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Raise so much food, but the volume and that if
you want to stay more full, and you got to
eat lots of volume. And that's usually like in the
form of fruits and vegetables because they're not as highly quoric.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
And that's what right, what does that mean? Nerdle eat
lots of volume.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Like nutrient dense foods that are you know that you
can eat a lot of that are filling like fibrous. Right,
So all all the fruits and veggies you can load
up on that shit because they're not highly chloric. It's
not like eating like highly processed foods worth a ton
of fat. And you know a lot of sugar and
you're just fucking you're not getting full. It doesn't do
anything because there's no fiber, there's no protein, there's none
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of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
So, while while it's true that it ultimately it comes
down to calories in calories out, you must be in
a calorie deficit. You want to make being in that
calorie deficit easier by eating a lot of food. I
know that can really confuse people, like, what do you
mean eat more food? I can't eat more. I can't
eat more food because I only get fourteen hundred calories
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or something.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Right, somebody might.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Say, that's like when someone says eat that's a lot
of food on your plate. Yeah, okay, that's a lot
of it's a lot of high volume food that's going
to keep me full. I'm not eating a fucking bar
and a coffee. I want that bulk in my belly.
So that's going to last me till noon.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Right. You don't want to feel depleted as soon as you.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Eat, no, And that's what a lot of people are like,
I'm like hungry right after I eat a muffin. That's
like yep, because it's a loaded carbs, you have nothing.
It's going right through you. Like, there's no fiber, there's
no protein, there's no bulk.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
A muffin with like a piece of sausage, right, a
fatty piece of sausage and a slice of cheese.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Right, that's a lot of fat for a muffin.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
You know, there's there's swaps you could make to make
that lower calorie, lower fat, higher protein, higher fiber swap
out the muffin.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Like, that's one thing I had.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I've had bread twice already today and it's only one o'clock.
I had a peanut butter and jelly with Dave's Skiller
bread in the morning, So a whole grain option for that,
and that was before my run.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
So fueled my body from my run.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Then after my run I had, I made a bagel
with two eggs and a slice of American cheese on
a high fiber, high protein bread with a Greek kyogurt
with Siggey's yogurt. So that was a high fiber, high
protein option there too. Yeah, that was a lower calorie
because you know, there wasn't a lot of fat, and
you know, I had two eggs on it, but that's.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Not a lot of fat.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, I'm trying to lose that, right, you're just but
you're mindful too, you know that you you got to
do the things that make you feel good as well, right,
like eat protein and fiber. Yeah, you know, so you're
you're conscious of that. I think that's a good thing
as well.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
And also, like.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
When you think, like when we say, you know, if
it fits in your macros type thing, you gotta think
like is it worth You're in a deficit, right you
want a slice of pizza or you want a slice
of pizza every day, which is okay, but is it
worth being hungry? Because when you think about it, like
if I like my four hundred calorie salad, which is
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so fucking big and so filling, how.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Long does it keep you satisfied when you eat a set?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I would say like from noon to three thirty four
o'clock almost dinner time.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
And then I'll have.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Like a good time period where a lot of people struggle.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
That three Yes, that's the and that's normal, I think.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
And and so that's when you have to have like
an either an emotional support beverage or you plan an
afternoon protein yogurt or some fruit or something. Yeah, not
that that's usually when people go off the rails. I
agree you don't have to plan for this because you
know every day before dinner you get hungry.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Plan for that shit pivot.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
But like having Let's say I could have a slice
of pizza that's four hundred calories or my salad that's
four hundred calories. Which one is going to be keep
me full till dinner.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Not the pizza.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Pizza definitely not the pizza, and I want to be
full till dinner. I don't want to sit here and starve,
like that's not fun to me. Also, I won't be
getting any protein from it probably like no nutrients. It's
not going to do anything for me. So it's okay,
Like I'm okay with saying no to the pizza. It's
not like I'm never going to have pizza again. I
think that's what people need to understand too. It's like,
you can make a choice that's going to head you
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towards your goals, or you can make a choice that's
not either way, make the choice and be it okay
with it, Like stop like being mad at yourself or
making choices. Just know, like be have acceptance with your choices.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
When you make them absolutely own that shit, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Own it like Okay, I'm off the size of pizza,
No big fucking deal, and move on like you know yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
And then but then that's because the owning it then
means dealing with what happens after right and own and
accepting what happens after. I'm going to I'm allowing myself
to have this pizza pizza because I fucking want this pizza. Okay, great,
even tho I'm in a deficit, I'm gonna make it work. Okay, great.
That might mean then you're gonna have to sacrifice galories
for dinner if you're trying to hit your protein or
hit your A.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Lot of people do that. Oh I hit my calories
before dinner. What do I do now? Plan better?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Plan better?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Yeah, plan better. That's what you do.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Okay, take this as a learning lesson that you didn't
fuck up. You don't need to fucking be like everything
is going to ship. Just do better tomorrow. Yeah, now
you know it, you learn What did you learn from
the situation?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, it's like biggest, biggest mole, says I.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
No, I don't. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
So, like in the beginning of this bikini prep tracking macros. Right,
that's something new for me, and it's easy. It's easier now,
it wasn't before the skill. It is a skill like everything, right.
And so I was eating, let's say I was I
was eating my sandwiches with like some watermelon, and Kelly
kept saying, you need you need more bulk, best, you
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need more bulk, right, But every day I was like
so hungry by like two o'clock and I'm like, what
does she mean by more bulk? That's you mean I
have to have a fucking bad gass salad and I can't,
not can't, but I probably shouldn't have my sandwich because
I'll be fucking hungry. And so I started having the
biggest solids and guess what, Yeah, that's working out better
for me. So it's like you can keep doing the
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same fucking thing hoping it will change or realize that,
you know, if that's not really working out for me
right now, I need to pivot, right. And so when
you do that and it's like it starts to work,
You're like, Okay, why didn't I do this earlier? You know?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, I love it too.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
So just because something does fit your macros doesn't mean
it necessarily should be fitting to your macros all the time. Yeah, yeah,
And I think you know, if it fits your macros,
that's great for you know, I did it.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I took that approach for years.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
You know, twenty sixteen to like twenty eighteen is kind
of when I was. I was fucking around with with
macros when I worked with the coach in twenty sixteen.
But I also fit a lot of things into my
I wasn't worried about I don't even think I worried
about fiber back then.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
You know, protein was my main, my main thing.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
You know, I had protein, carbs, and fats, but I
never worried about fiber. And I know i'd have to
look back at my dialogue from because I still have
that in my fitness pewel. I know the food choices
I was making weren't necessarily great for overall health at
that time.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Sure, it got me shredded, it got maybe me lose
a bunch of body fat, and I got stronger, built muscle.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
But I remember how I felt. I didn't feel great.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
You know, I was defeated.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I was always constantly hungry because I was fitting things
in like nightly ice cream and treats, and I was
living off of to my protein goals. There was a
lot of protein bars, a lot of protein shakes, a
lot of protein supplement based foods, you know. And I'll
call myself this isn't calling myself out, but I know
when I was tracking macros. Now this is ten years ago,
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twenty sixteen, but my calories were like eighteen fifty, you know,
and that's not necessarily low. But like me now right,
I'm like, that's like with my current life, like I
would be living.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
You would fucking die at eighteen fifty.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I would I need that flight for like a meal.
Sometimes I was gonna say, I mean, I'm.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Up to the point now one runs.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I'm doing half marathons going forward this starting this week,
and I run a lot of thirteen point one miles
for my long run, and it's still only going to
get progressively. I think towards the end of my training play,
I'm doing like twenty seven fucking.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Miles or something.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
You know. That's something.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah, but that's neither here nor there. So different goals,
right right, yeah, different goals.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
So yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
One thing I do notice too is that I am
eating a lot of fruits and vegetables. I'm eating not
a lot of highly processed foods, and I do have
to say, I feel really good, and I feel like
my skin looks really good, and so it's it does matter,
it does I you know, when I think about it,
I look back, it's like all the traveling with all
the candy, and you know, I fucking love sour candies.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
But I just I feel good.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Besides a little bit hungry, I just feel good right
now because I'm eating really well.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
You're giving your body, You're you're eating clean, broke clean.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Oh, the cleanest of the clean, cleanest of the Yeah,
for the most part.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Yeah, for the most part. I love that you threw
that in there. For the most part.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
That's something I've been We just started our our Mindful
Eating Challenge on Monday, and that's that was a concept
I introduced.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I challenged our challengers to adapt this week.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Is that for the most part, mentality, Like, y'all are
going to go out there, You're going to crush your habits,
your workouts, your daily cardio for the most part, right, Like,
I don't expect you to do these things every day.
Even when you do workout, sometimes you're sometimes you're not
gonna be able to do the full workout, right, I want
you to do it for the most part. That means
sometimes you're gonna get fifty percent of the workout in
or fifty percent of the effort, so fucking be it.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Mm hmm. It's flexibility.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
I think too.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Like, just continuing that talk about macros, maybe week you
don't go down that road a little bit here too,
because I know that, like you said, this is your
first time tracking macros for yourself.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
And I always get people to ask me like, how
do I figure out my macros And let me just say,
I don't know. I have microphones individualized Yeah, exactly, I
have my coach.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
My coach figured out mine for me.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I've always been the track your calories, your protein, and
your fiber. The carbs and fats are the rest of
the calories because I work with general population and honestly,
like really getting nitty and gritty is really about performance
esthetics and a lot of the times you guys just
need to figure out how to track calories. You just
need to figure out how to don't need to get
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lost in the weeds because macronutrients are calories.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Just so you know, right, it really is. Essentially you're
still tracking.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Calories guys, right because carbs, fats, and protein, those are macronutrients.
And so when you're tracking specific macronutrients, you have specific
numbers of each macronutrient to hit, and that can be
like tedious.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
It's a it's adding more pieces to the puzzle.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
And when we don't want to add more pieces to
the puzzle, when you just start because you get pissed off.
And I think this is where people quit tracking calories
is because you try to track macronutrients and you try
to be perfect with those numbers.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
And when you're not perfect with the numbers.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Because if you're a perfectionist mindset, trying to track macros
can fuck your day up.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Yeah, it could take you out.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Yeah, So is another reason I don't recommend it for
most people.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, and so that's why I'm like, you don't want
to do what I'm doing. What I'm doing is very tedious,
and if you ask me advanced, it's unnecessary honestly, you know,
And this would be an maybe situation for you if
you're a specific client with specific goals and maybe even
like Matt said, performance goals, we want to make sure
you're eating enough carbohydrates, So you might want to track that,
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you know, because some people can under eat those and
then not perform well. So there's different reasons for tracking macronutrients,
but most people don't need to do.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
That, agreed. Agreed.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
But like in terms of like how do I figure
out my macros, it's I mean, it's it is really
truly different for everybody, you know. Yeah, the one thing
that's that's constant are like your protein is always pretty
much going to be constant, and your fats are going
to be pretty constant too. Yeah, but like a standard
macro split would be and first of all, you do
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it off of your overall calories.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Is it like a thirty forty or forty, right, Yeah,
that's what I say.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Like, like a standards split would be thirty percent of
your calories from protein, thirty percent from carbs, forty percent
from fat or vice versa. Right, you can kind of
manipulate those a little bit, but it's not that fucking
like that figuring it out, Isn't that that's that would
be more enough to get started.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
You could even if I'll go on the TD calculator
dot that and they can figure out your specific carbs
and fats in protein.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
But why why bother like honestly, like.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Why put yourself through that fucking just mental gymnastics.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, I don't track macros with any of my clients
Nerdle We don't mostly either.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah, and some when I started with it.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, like if you have, like, I'm sure that your
clients maybe they're they're really getting dialed into physique or performance.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, now I'll call myself. I won't.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
This isn't necessarily calling myself up. But this is how
I've evolved as a coach. When I first started coming
into online coaching back in you know, twenty nineteen, I
came on as a macro coach. That was that was
my whole thing, is like, because that's what I knew.
That's what I knew from my online coach, and macros
worked really well for me up to that point, so
why would it work for everybody else?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
So I started, you know, here's your macros, here's your
check in, right. But what I found was that my
clients weren't getting great results back then with the macro approach.
And that's because the macros weren't the prop like they were.
They were having trouble sticking to macros. They were having
like because their behaviors weren't like this. They were stress eating,
emotional eating, so all these things right, So that's kind
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of how my coaching evolved then too. I was like, Okay,
we're focusing on things that don't matter because you're you
could have the perfect macro split. But if you're if
you're stress eating and emotionally eating, binge eating, restricting, whatever
the macros are aren't gonna matter, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, That's what I try to keep telling everyone on
the internet. It's like I can give you my what
I'm doing, my whole entire plan, but listen, you got
other shit.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
I'm an individual.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
You're coaching so much shit for not sharing your specifics.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
But Matt, I have I ever shared my specifics on
social media at any point on my social media existed.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Not even when you were like building and in me
is exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I've never talked about my weight. I've never talked about
my calories. Maybe on the Actually on the podcast is
the only place I've ever discussed pover.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Get to it. That's it, because are the real ones
are listening?
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Yes? Because they we can go into more context.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yes, right, you can't really do.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
That in the fucking two minute video.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
No, so yeah, I couldn't believe the amount of shit
that I was getting for not disclosing my specific calorie
deficit number. You're you're not letting it? How entitled are
some I mean, are you fucking out of your mind?
It makes no sense for you to know this information?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Like the one woman said she won't share her plan
because she doesn't have a plan.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah what, I'm secretly micro dosing even though she saw Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Come on, sure people do that, but you ain't that bitch.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
No, definitely fucking not. Oh my god, No, definitely not.
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
And then you know, I have three other people on
my team doing this with me. What are we all
fucking micro dosing and fucking doing weird shit? I mean,
get a fucking life.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Okay, Well, I mean I think that's just a projection,
though too people want that to be the case because
that's the answer that right. They want you to be
secretly microdosing because some influences have done.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
That, right, or they can't imagine actually being consistent with
something the way you should be to get results, Like
there's no other way. It's like this has been a process, Like,
did you guys forget all last year when I was
training and eating and it was at an uncomfortable wait
and I was talking about it, did you fucking forget
that whole entire year?
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Like?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I mean, now it's like where I'm getting did some
body fat that I've accumulated?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
So has the attention to the attention span and the
memory of a fly?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Right, Like they either weren't here, they didn't see that,
or they forgot that you were last year, that you
were intentionally building and you were gainly as a result
of that, and then you went into maintenance periods, you
went into little mini cuts, and then you went yeah, right,
and then you got dialed in.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
So saying there's parodizations of this too, And some of
those mini cuts were to figure out what my calories
would be during this. You have to figure out a
lot of stuff before this happens, because there's time based
stuff in here. So it's like, okay, let's do a
thirty minute, thirty minute, thirty day mini cut.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Let's see like what calories would work.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And so that mini cut it got me somewhere, but
we needed to go lower for this. Yeah, So it's
like you do things for a fucking reason.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
And again, these strategies that we're talking about are more advanced.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Strategies, and this is why you hire a coach.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yes, I can't.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Stress enough why you would not follow my plan or
best planned that's for us.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
We give you your specific plan for your specificals. What
trend is I guess your way and follow other people's
plans when.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
You could just hire a coach.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
And I'm not saying this because I am a coach
or Matt's a coach, but take the guesswork away. I
don't know, I would not know how to do this
without coach Kelly, Like she is walking me through this,
and I'm a coach.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
I mean, yeah, I'm learning so much, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
So it's like, you know, instead of like trying to
figure out your numbers and consistently getting shit wrong or
not knowing what to do, get a guide, call your guide,
you know.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Ye that flash right down the fucking dark trail for you.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah right, I like that. Yeah, shining light on things
that you don't know need to be have light showing
on them.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, Like you're doing this thing. Why are you doing
this thing. Oh I didn't realize I was doing this thing. Okay, cool,
now we can change.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
It, right, Yeah, it's not that deep.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
So you're also like, your your activity levels are pretty high,
where like I know you shared what they are, Like
your your steps.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
I'm strength trained for days a week.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Strength training days, my steps are seventeen to eighteen thousand,
and on my off training days they're eighteen to twenty k.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Got it, I just go to twenty k.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah that's high. That's high.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Oh dude.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I mean I was struggling to get fucking sixteen thousand
steps and admittedly, like I wasn't planning like I should.
So now I'm like, you know what, Beth, you need
to fucking plan this shit. Stop fucking around so you
know we're doing this for ourselves. I am guilty to
you guys. Okay, I was bitching at my team meeting
how hard it was to get sixteen thousand steps, and
then she ups my steps, you know what I'm saying.
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So it's like, what am I doing now? I am
getting up earlier in the morning to get them done.
I know now what it takes to get this shit done,
and I'm doing it. Yeah, does that mean it's easy. No,
But I'm still a mom. I'm still working, I'm still podcasting,
I'm still going to meetings, I'm still running a fucking business.
Like everyone, everyone's busy, right and it's like I don't
have time when I worked twelve hours day. I have
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four kids, And it's okay, okay, you need to prioritize
this shit. You do have time, you're just probably spending
it on useless shit right now.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
So right now, we have a book club that we
do every month inside fifth that's strong and the book
we're reading right now is The Mountain.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Is you.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Oh, that's one of your faves, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, it's about self sabotage. And I'm listening to it
on audio this time around. And the part that I
listened to yesterday was when somebody says that they're too busy.
So many people are going to get called out by this.
Nobody's too busy. That's virtue signaling, is what she said.
It's virtue signal. You take the busiest people in the world,
people with the most chaotic schedules. They're not saying that
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they're too busy. We're finding the fucking way. It's a
lack of planning, it's a lack of priority. It's a
lack of awareness too that maybe you don't realize what
our time sucks in your life. You feel like you
have no time, but our feelings can lie to us.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Mm hmm right. Or you thrive on chaos or actually,
do you really thrive on chaos?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Do you thrive on chaos or is that chaotic environment
keeping you comfortable?
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Yeah? I see that a lot.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
H Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Absolutely, It's like you don't know what to do unless
you're creating your own chaos.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
It's a former self sabotage, is what that is.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I'm just it's like, slow the fuck down, Sit down
for a minute. Yeah, got five fucking minutes.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Breathe.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I asked somebody in my comments yesterday to slow down
and take it, to put the phone down and take
a breath, and they blocked. Mean, this woman was pretty
triggered in my comments.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
So, yeah, people get so triggered these days and we're
stupidest fucking shit. It actually just makes me crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yeah, you know what she was triggered about.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
It was triggered about that video I made about the
eleven year old being put on a GLP one.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Medication, So what was what was she upset?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
He's like, what if she had asthma and she needed
asthma medication, You're just going to tell her to breathe better.
I'm like, how did you come up with that conclusion
based off of what I just said in this video?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Because she's not smarter than a fucking sixth grader, that's why.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
So for context for our listeners here, and I know
we kind of want to talk about this too. It's like,
there was this viral video of this interview with this
mother and her eleven year old daughter where the mother put.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Her eleven year old daughter on a GLP.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
One medication week go v okay. That's in my opinion,
this is where we're crossing a fucking line. It's really
getting out of hand here. And we say it time
and time again, we're not anti GLP one medications, we're
anti them being abused. Why the fuck does an eleven
year old girl set in second grade need to be
put on a GLP one medication?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
She wasn't even obese like she did it.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Because here's the thing she and this is what breaks
my heart about that interview anybody please go watch the interview.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
It's ten minutes long on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
A good morning show I think it's a UK show
was interviewing this mother and daughter from my and She's like,
I felt great and I thought I was pretty until
I started getting bullied and people started telling me that
I was fat and overweight. Right, So she felt great
about herself until society started telling her that she was
not good enough, until the society her peers started ridiculing
(33:18):
her for her look. So was oh, well, I see
mom doing this thing. Hey mom, can I do this? Yeah,
you can do it? No, no quote, no second thoughts.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
So we were we're telling the kid that, yeah, something's
wrong with your body because these people said there was
something wrong with your right.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
She was happy and confident, thought she was beautiful before.
This eleven year old girl thought this until people started
breaking her down. Then I don't she wanted to start
changing her body to till the bullying stops.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Right.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I blame I blame the I fully blame the mother
one hundred. She is literally it's the consistent cycle. It's
the mom's issue. A because the mom, I think she
is also on the way. Yeah, yeah, this is to
me a typical like let's lose weight together situation. I
don't know, Like you know when moms used to take
their daughters to fucking weight watchers with them, right, it's
(34:07):
usually an eleven or twelve year old daughter.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
They're going through puberty.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Like you know, Johnny has a belly fat because he's
going through puberty.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
And they grow out and then they grow up. It's normal.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
So n't even had a chance to go through it's
not like growing, they're changing.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
What the fuck does this do to them?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
This is poor child have to be and now on
a weight loss drug for the rest of her fucking
life because her mom ended.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
I mean, what is going on here?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
She's like muscle, the.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Belloping bones, all this shit is is happening, and she's
not eating enough now right her like.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Her mom has to remind her to eat. An eleven
year old child, she has to remind to eat. And
now she has no idea what what hunger fullness feels
like at eleven years old.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
I'll never know.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Because we're putting them on these extreme diets at eleven
years old. And this is what we talk about like this,
it starts then at that age. This this poor girl
is being set up for a lifetime of fucking dieting
yo yo dieting. And she was already alluding to that
in the interview too. It's like, it's like I had
tried to lose weight. I lost weight on my own,
and an eleven year old saying this, I lost some
weight on my own, but I gained it back.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
So she was already yo yo dieting before that too,
you know.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
And then after she stopped taking the medication, guess what happened.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
She gained some of the weight back. She said, So like,
damn it, we're setting this poor girl. She doesn't even chance.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah that she was talking about inflammation. It's like, where
is she hearing this?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
My face and my arms? I lost inflammation? No, you
lost body fat. Who the fuck is calling? Who is
saying this shit to you?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
I can't She's after sucking these kids up? Serious?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Still, Yeah, have we not learned anything? I mean the
toxic di cultures of the eighties, nineties and early.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Two thousands, No, we haven't, and we're just we're evolving
into worse and worse die culture.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
The last few years, I thought we were coming a
long way with body neutrality and body acceptance and loving
ourselves more and really putting the emphasis on showing up
for ourselves and how we feel. But now that we
can get a discount code for GLP ones anywhere from
our favorite influencers, that's just gone off the fucking door.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Honestly, Like I think golp one, the fact that it's
a life saving medication for some people, I honestly it's
a double edged sword. And this goes with everything. It's
going to be the next crisis because we're going to
have undermuscled and boneless women walking around breaking bones everywhere. Yeah,
because a lot of these people are not doing what
(36:35):
they need to be doing and losing a shit ton
of weight right unsupervised medication.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
And never mind the fact that this girl's eleven and
there are no weight loss drugs that are approved for
eleven year old to be taken, So who the fuck
is giving her these drugs? We GOVI has approved for
people as young as twelve years old, but she ate
twelve when she took these drugs, So.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Who the fuck gave her this prescription? I don't know why,
you know.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
And and in the interview too, they said things like
we tried diet and exercise.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
We did the diet and exercise. She's eleven.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
What do you mean you did the diet and exercise
she's been How long has she been quote unquote exercising? Right,
These are all questions I have. I want to know.
You know, it's just.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Dumbfounding. Dum dumb founds me.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
It is dumbfounding.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, we're we're not even giving our kids a chance.
And and I know and this because this is like
my a lot of clients that I work with, and
I know probably for you and your team too, Beth,
forty to sixty years year old women that maybe don't
have a great relationship with food and their body right.
Body image isn't the greatest. And we talk to our
(37:50):
clients like I have clients that I know for a fact,
at eleven years old, we're going to with the wait
watchers with their mom. I've had clients that went to camps.
I don't even know if that's still a thing, but
they were set to fat camps at the age of
ten and eleven years old. That's all this is is
just di you culture repackaged. It's it's new fat camps,
it's new ways to restrict it's new ways to tell
(38:13):
our young women of this generation that they're not good
enough for society. Yeah, that they're flawed, that they're broken,
not even giving them a fucking chance. And it's heartbreaking.
It's heartbreaking, And I don't understand how people can hear
what we're saying about these things and take and interpret
any other way, Like how does that mean, like we're
(38:35):
anti people having these drugs? No, we're we want the
right people to have these drugs. But like an eleven
year old who these drugs aren't even approved for, is
not who should be having these drugs, right, mother? Like, sorry, mom,
if this is shamey, but like the mother should should
have should do better, Like as parents, we need to
be doing better.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
No, I think she should be shamed. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
And the girl even said that in the interview, like
I saw mom doing this and I asked her if
this this would be right for me, And the mom's
reaction right away was absolutely absolutely yeah, without a doubt, Dinny,
second fucking guess it that this is right for my
eleven year old.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
It's because her daughter's her best friend.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Matt Oh, yeah, like we just got to be our
kids friends.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah, do you know what I'm saying like this, this
goes to the let's do, let's lose, spat together bullshit.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah, it's fucking typical, literally a fucking cycle consistently.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
It's still happening.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Generational, fucking fuck generational. Still it's still going on. It's seventies, eighties, nineties,
two thousands, we're still doing this shit.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Yeah I could.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
We could probably trace it back multiple generations, right with
with you. Young women that are struggling, their mother probably
struggled and projected a lot of those food issues body
issues onto their daughter, and that mother's mother probably did
the same with her. You know, like we know, like
that's how it works.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
But get it.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
But yeah, we get it.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
I understand. I mean, coming from seventies eighties child living
with a diet culture mother, I have had to literally
think about everything a million times over with my own
son because of my own fucked up mind that I've
had to fix, right, and it's still that shit's still deep.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Sometimes you have to do the fucking work on yourself
so you don't fuck up your own kid. That's what
you need to do. And I know it's not easy.
I get it, but you. That's what you need to do,
because it's your fucking responsibility. Your child is going to
be an adult one day and they are going to
end up with an eating disorder, or they're going to
do the same fucking thing that you are currently when
it's Yoyo died in your entire life, hating themselves skinny
(40:39):
over and over and over again because you didn't stop
the fucking cycle.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Right yeah, this is where this is how eating disorders
are born, right right here, right now. We talked about
this last week with doctor Lauren. Right, a lot of
menopausal women are starting, like the numbers of eating disorders
and menopausal women are starting to increase, And I you know,
I would argue that those it's just now being acknowledged,
like they probably always had these issues because it's probably
(41:07):
been a lifelong thing for them.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I could tell with the amount of menopausal women that
are on the internet with their micro dosing GLP ones.
They're targeting menopausal women. These women are already thin, targeting
menopausal women because they they themselves already have a shitty
fucking body image. Okay, these people that are pushing this stuff,
they have disorders, They have disordered eating Yeah, you just
don't think they do, and they're not acknowledging they do.
(41:30):
They don't think they do. They just have severe body dysmorphia,
disordered eating all of it. They're they're literally fucking showing
you front page in a video that they're fucked up.
I'm sorry, it's so true. Like if you're micro dosing
a GLP one when you're fucking got six pack abs
or you want six pack abs because your fucking need
to lose that lost ten pounds, you need fucking help.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
If you're doing that shit, you.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Need therapy, not a you need to Yes.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
You need therapy.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
And and then the fact that everyone's listening to you,
that's another problem.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Yeah, only therapy.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
You shouldn't be listening to a fucking makeup artist who's
pushing microducing JLP ones for nutrition and for fucking whatever
the fuck she's doing, right, Like that's your first mistake.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
We shouldn't just be listening to somebody just because they're
shredded either, like exactly, you know, somebody's body is not
their business card, and if it is their business card,
like that's a shitty business model.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
You know.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
The the amount of like.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
It's honestly disgusting to me the amount of women that
just literally show their bodies as if it's their fucking
business card and they're like just walking down the fucking
sand in the beach with their fucking six pack and
they're fucking needle in their hand. It's like, no, that
is not my menopausal right of pass, which I'm sorry,
like like you know what I'm saying, it's just fucking gross.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
It's not I don't know what the word is for it,
but it's just like look at me. I don't know, well.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
It gives that to me. It's like, oh, you want
this body too.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Here's like like yeah, it's just like you can do
this too. It's like, no, that's not do it.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
You can do it. That's what it's giving.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's great to be proud of
yourself and all the work you've done. Like I, you know,
do like to be four as and aftors and look
at my muscles. It's it's probable I'd be proud, but
I'm not like saying, hey, look you can do this too,
be like me six pack abs and fucking six months.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Literally saying you don't want my code.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
You're doing right, that's because you're a good coach and
you're not just you know, and at a bamboozle people
and have a discount code to sell some supplements and microdos.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
But if all these people do all their videos is
all of them just all they do is show their
six pack aps, they're not really ever giving you any
educational fucking information like body check videos, every single one
of them.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Body check out what I eat in a Video's like.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
To me, yeah, yeah, I don't know. That's not real life.
Guys like to me, that's not real life. That's like
fucking fake ass ship.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
And also like why six pack abs? Who the why
do we want them six pack as? If you want to,
like we walking around with six pack abs invisible abs constantly.
Why organization are you seeking? Do people realize how fucking
hard it is to get there and stay there? Huh No,
(44:22):
it's hard as enough. It's hard enough to get there.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
I got five weeks into this bikini prep laughed, and
I don't I still don't have six pack apps.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
Guys, Okay, yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, you
have no fucking idea.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Our idea of our picture of fitness is so distorted.
We have such we have so such fucked up expectations.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
It is we're not realistic as to what's what? What
was it?
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Natural normal body looks like, what a real amount of
muscle looks like, when natural physiques look like.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
And you don't know what these people are doing either. Yeah,
they're there, they're like microdocing GLP one, But what else
are they doing?
Speaker 4 (44:58):
Who knows? Who the buck knows? I don't even know what.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
I don't know doctor Louren.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Last week, you know we talked about getting that bulky look, right,
how that doesn't happen by an accident. That's really intentional
and you probably have some help with pharmaceuticals. Yeah, that
is the reality of fitness influencing.
Speaker 4 (45:17):
Are they called peds.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
PD performance enhancing drugs?
Speaker 4 (45:20):
Yeah? I know those are pretty easy to get too.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Yeah, you can get anything on the internet.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
I could probably start getting fucking caps on my shoulders
too if I get if I got some peds. Yeah,
because the way I've been doing fucking goddamn lot raises,
I should have fucking stops by now.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
And I don't you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
So it's like people don't understand, like to get that
the look like these looks sometimes like you gotta wonder
m hm, yeah, for sure, I don't. You know, I'm
not saying everyone's on them, but ny a lot more
people are than you think.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
You'd be surprised though, with the fitness industry once when
you're educated and knowledgeable, like and you know what goes
on behind the scenes, like we do.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
You know, it's shit, it's smoking mirrors.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yeah, we are so anti influencers mm hmmm, because we
know if they're telling you to look here, just don't
go look over here, you know.
Speaker 4 (46:09):
Yeah right solusions.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
All right, yeah, yeah, So I went to I mean
kind of shifting gear here a little bit. I have
two gym memberships still, but I've been going to like
Planet Fitness a lot this this summer, primarily working out
with Riker, yeah, because he really enjoys Planet Fitness. But
I got to work out on my own yesterday. I
went back to like my og gym, the one I've
(46:34):
been going to for more than a decade, and that
just felt, yeah, felt so right to be there. And
that's where, you know, when when I got there, because
I hadn't been there in a couple of months. It's like, man,
I just miss being down in this basement and just
lifting heavy.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
It's pretty cool. I have to say I liked working
out there. I like Old I like Old Gym's like that.
Like that to me is way better than Planet Fitness.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
And yeah, there's the community aspects that that goes there,
Like I have never like like Planet Fitness is friendly,
but like I've never met anybody at Planet Finnis. I
don't know anybody at Planet Finnis unless I know him
from like my other gym or like just being around,
you know, but like it's missing that community component, that
that tight knit component that. Yeah, I think fitness is
(47:17):
really all about about, you know, getting or and picking
people up.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
I pick that at my home gym.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
I miss also having the access to like a barbell
section and weights that are over seventy five pounds.
Speaker 4 (47:28):
It's very like limited.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yeah, well love plant finish for a lot of things.
But it's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
I go there.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
No barbell work obviously.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
I got the barbelle in the trap bar here in
my home gym, and I got the hack spat and
the leg pro. They have that stuff there, but they
don't have like nice they don't have barb bell stuff.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
No barbells though, And I got to say, I am
really itching with to do some more barbell work.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
I keep saying this, but and I don't.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
I'm not committing to it yet because I want to
make sure that it's it's it feels right and it's
the right time for me to really start building that
back up. I'm just doing bar bell work and powerlifting
type stuff, you know, so we'll see.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
Where that goes.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Yeah, right, speaking of that, Speaking of the gym, I
just volunteered at a five k last week too. That
was a lot of fun. Saw that were that home gym.
People are asking me, why aren't you runing? I'm like, well,
first of all, I'm running twelve miles tomorrow. I just
want I just want to be here to connect with people.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
So yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
Really quick, I'm going to remind people before we get going,
for the month of July, we got.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
Our Serenity Gummies from Curreed.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
This is all blurred out, you can't see it, and
this is a video podcast anyway, but for the month
of July, you can get a free travel pack of
Serenity Gummies when you purchase any cured product using our
code CTC, which also saves you twenty percent on any
any product. And I've been smashing my flow gummies and
not smashing them in that regard, but loving them for
(48:50):
the focus, you know, when I was getting people set
for the challenge before the podcast before our runs, like,
I'm just loving the focus that it gives me.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
So check it out.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Yeah, and one last thing, Patreon, we've been getting some
good interaction in our in our Patreon group. Yeah, that
we have for that, so check that out too, guys,
like Amy has been shouting us out on our social media,
so she posted a picture of the tricep and shoulder
definition that she's got.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
My god, I got it. I haven't seen that yet.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
She's looking great, she's looking strong, So shout out to
Amy crushing our Patreon workouts. So, guys, five bucks a
month for monthly workout planning our Patreon I used to start.
And I think we're going to probably celebrate here for
our anniversary, coming up with some type of promo, so
who knows, who knows? Oh yeah, but it's been a good, good,
good pivot episode for us.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
Snirtle Yes.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Oh, one last thing, I can announce my five k
a day in August. Yes, okay, so I'm turning. I'm turning.
I am having my ten year sober anniversary. A fucking decade,
you guys. Yeah, let's go on August twenty first. So
every year, if you have been following me for a while,
you know, I do the August five K Day to
raise awareness for addiction. That starts next Friday, is August first, buddy,
(50:00):
And that is just walk, run, biker hike. Five k's
three point one miles, okay, And so this is to
do on your own. There's no prizes. I do this
every year. It's just to raise awareness for addiction. You
can post in your stories and tag me that you're
doing it. I'll be talking more about it on social media.
But that starts next Friday, and it's a five K day,
(50:22):
and I'll be doing a five K day obviously.
Speaker 4 (50:24):
I mean I already do that. I have to. So
this is just part of it now.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
Good way to get dialed in. Yeah, doing for good
reason too.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
So yeah, like you said, you'll talk about it more
on social media, and I'm sure we'll talk.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
About last week on our podcast too.
Speaker 4 (50:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
Yeah, yeah, I love it. I love it for good
reason good cause. Yes, awesome. Well good episode, nerdle.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Yeah, we'll chat with you all later.
Speaker 4 (50:47):
All right, bye guys, Bye bye.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Hope you enjoyed this episode, so why not share with
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and thanks for being here.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
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