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August 15, 2025 57 mins
Ever notice how your brain gets real creative when it’s trying to talk you out of doing something hard? Today, we get real about two big hurdles in chasing lofty goals - the isolation that comes with intense focus (whether it’s fat loss, marathon training, or photo prep) and the mental tricks your brain plays to keep you “safe” and comfortable.We cover:
  • Why big goals can feel lonely (and how to know if your isolation is real or self-created)
  • The “comfort scripts” your brain runs - like The Negotiator, The Martyr Move, and The Future You Promise
  • How to spot the difference between giving yourself grace and just giving yourself a free pass
  • Strategies for keeping commitments to yourself when life gets messy
  • Why a strong community can be the antidote to isolation
  • Personal stories from the marathon trail, photo prep grind, and the mental gymnastics of getting out the door for a workout
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"Grace without growth is bullsht." - Matt
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Your patterns change. Right, you have long runs on your weekends.
Maybe if you're like you or somebody's on a fat
loss phase, maybe that means meal prepping on the weekends
instead of going out to eat on the weekends. You know, Yeah,
that's a struggle for so many people missing out on
that social aspect. And you don't have to miss out
on that social aspect, but you do have to maybe

(00:21):
take your own mules or be more dial in with
your nutrition.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Right, we chose this. We have to remember that I
chose this. Whatever your goal is, you chose that goal.
And I think it's very important to communicate with your
significant other exactly what it's going to entail so they
know and either they're going to support you or they're not.
You know, my husband has always supported me with everything
I do. But it doesn't mean that he doesn't have

(00:46):
his moments where he gets frustrated. And that's fucking that's normal.
We talk about it, huh, but in the end he
still supports me. So I think consistently talking about it
working together. You know, I don't let things go because
I'm working on myself. Welcome to cut the crap with

(01:06):
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Speaker 1 (01:10):
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Speaker 3 (01:17):
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Speaker 1 (01:47):
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Speaker 4 (01:58):
NERD.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
You're trying to pop your tads there for your emotional
support bed and you've failed.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I was trying to be so fucking cool with my
diet coke right now.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
That was literally just anti climbact.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
You think you're just so cool with your diet soda?
How dare you?

Speaker 4 (02:21):
I know, such a sham?

Speaker 1 (02:24):
How are you doing?

Speaker 4 (02:26):
I'm doing good? Actually, yeah, I'm doing good. There's a
lot going on in my house right now.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah. Team BFF headquarters in the Faracco household is getting
a new is that right?

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, a new driveway. I think it's happened either tomorrow
or Friday. So you should be coming here when we
no longer have fucking crushed rock in.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Our driveway, got it? Which is so exciting.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
They're putting in installing like the last window on the
back side of the house, the bathroom window upstairs in.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
The next two days.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
And then at some point we're going to be knocking
down the wall in our living room to open up
that porch into the living room, so the living room
will be just one big room into the Wow.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, that's going to be a big ass living room. Then,
I know it wasn't that. It's more like a sunroom, right.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
It's a sun porch that's never been used because it's
not insulated. But now it was. It was supposed to
be like a sunroom. I had like sun windows and.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Kind of you started using it as a catchall room
or something. I feel.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, they added it on the like so my living
room or those windows and that one door that goes
into the sunroom that was the entrance to the house.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
So they added the sunroom. Someone did at some point. Yeah. Cool.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah this week the house house.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
I know I will have to put We'll have to
put like a beam because it's a supporting wall right there,
so they'll have to be like a.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, that's character for real.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
So I'm excited that it'll make this this small house
and seem bigger.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, for sure. Love it.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, awesome, last few weeks of this bikini prep.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
The end is near the end, Disney. Yeah you're feeling
about it?

Speaker 4 (04:12):
I feel great.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, I feel really fucking pumped and what I've accomplished, honestly, Like,
I feel super proud of myself. I'm proud of Kelly,
Amy and Peggy. We all fucking were super consistent. We
just crushed it. I mean and just not only like
these past few weeks being in the deficit, but this
entire year, like with our training, we were all we
all just did it. We did and everything was with

(04:33):
like a purpose, you know, the nutrition, the training all
of it.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
So yeah, pretty cool, super dialed in.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, I got to say that I've never seen myself
look like this before. No, No, I mean that with
like seeing all the muscle, different striations.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yeah, it's like, it's pretty it's pretty hot.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
I literally just want to walk around with the fucking
tank top. I mean not a tank top, a fucking
like sports bra.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
It's one.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's like when you see the people with their abs
out and you're like, why do you do that?

Speaker 4 (05:04):
I understand now.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Like I get it, I get it.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
I get it because why would you want to cover
all that up?

Speaker 2 (05:09):
I mean, you just worked, because it's it's very hard
work to build muscle and to actually see it, that's
even that's harder.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
I feel like. So anyway, mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
You mean so like right now, you're wearing flannel, so
you have you have the typical Maine attire.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
And I'm cold right now.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, I'm in well, my office is very chilly, but
it's about one hundred degrees out, so I'll go outside
and sweat my ass off.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah. I was talking with a client this morning. She's
from the New England area, and she's talking about how
hot it is. Right there, right now for.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
The fucking nightmare right now. But my office is nice
and crisp, so I have to wear.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
A flannel, got it, got it.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
And I'm also very low body fat.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
So what you could be cold anyway?

Speaker 4 (05:51):
The supermarket.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
It feels like I'm going into a fucking cooler mm hmmmmm.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
And people don't talk about that, losing, losing. Wait, how
cold you get?

Speaker 4 (06:01):
I'm yeah cold. I was like, why the fuck are
you cold? Right now? I'm like, I just damn.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Fat is insulation?

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, how about you, Matt?

Speaker 4 (06:13):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Not a lot, just trucking along, cruising along, crushed. It's
hot here too. It was so humid on my run
this morning, like ninety four ninety five percent humidity. Can't
even where my sunnglasses because they just fog up on me.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
You know, the humidity is what gets you.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
It is what gets you, absolutely absolutely, But cruising along,
you know, getting getting into the deep end of training
right now for my for my running goals. Yeah, really
gearing up. I've got a seventeen mile long run this
morning this weekend coming up.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Oh damn.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
That was my longest run before the marathon. Got canceled that.
I I was, yeah, and that was fucking rough.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Sure.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
I remember that last mile being like fuck you.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, it's gonna be tough.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Oh man yea, And I'm like, oh my god, it's
only seventeen It's like, yeah, a marathon's twenty six.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Right, Yeah, that's when it's just mine over matter, mind
over matter. Yeah, put my run for this weekend. It's
just conversational pace. So like I'll be you know, going
at an easier yeah, easier pace. You know, nothing easy
about seventeen miles, but not going in with any time
targets or in the roles or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
So do you map out your runs before you head out?
So since you have a seventeen mile or do you
do you like, Okay, where am I going to go
to do this? You just know it's going to run
until I get this.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
It's going to run around, Yeah, just gonna run. It
depends where I'm at. So if I'm if I'm at
my girlfriend's house up in Toledo, she lives right by
that amazing park of which I love to run at,
so I literally just run around all the trails there.
Do I get my mileage goals or if I'm your
in my own in my hometown, I just run around
the town. You know, there's a couple of different parts
here in town, so I just kind of run between them.

(07:54):
They're on opposite as of town, So I'll run some
laps on one run to the other, do some laps,
and then hit some hills or something in the downtown area.
You know. I never run the same like route, you know,
it's always different. Just whatever my mileage goal is, I
kind of does to work towards work. Okay, So yeah, yeah, nice.

(08:14):
I don't have you know, with my mileage targets. It's
just if it's six miles, Like, I don't go off
and do a bunch of side trail. I just stick
to the main stuff, you know. But on the long runs,
I get I get creative and I find every little
side trail that I can find, go exploring and just
kind of enjoy it.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, When I was in these running groups, I should
guess you should say like we would have group runs
and everyone like every like different mileage had like a
different everyone had their own like route.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, you like like.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Chikawaki route or you know, and it'd be like specific
if you want to get twenty, you run this beachwood
all the way and then you come back and so
it's like everyone has I think two for safety reasons
around here. With it not being a lot of sidewalks,
you kind of have to like map about your your
runs for that perpose.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, where I live, I'm fortunate where Yeah we have
sidewalks and I've got decent parks in my area. I
know not everybody has that, right, right, I really am
fortunate when it comes to that. I know, not everybody
has access to parks like I do.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
Yeah, that's nice, we got the trails, but it's like
sometimes I get weirded out, like fucking running and trails
here by myself. I mean, you know what I'm saying.
It's fucking scary as yeah, run with somebody else, yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't necessarily need to worry
about that, you know. But also, like where I live,
Toledo is actually I don't know what the what the
results were this year, but like they're routinely voted the
best metro parks for like a mid size city, you know,
so like they have like over a decade ago. They
made it a goal too for everybody in the city

(09:55):
to have access to a park within X amount of
miles and I think it was like a half mile
or a mile or something like that. Wow, And they
finally have They've seen it's too fruition now, so everybody,
no matter where you are, where you live in Toledo,
you have access to a park. And it's truly truly amazing.
It put a lot of money and a lot of
effort into it, and they've got the most beautiful parks

(10:15):
and I fucking Lovell's incredible. I can't talk about them enough.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, that's good to know.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, for sure, for sure, which is you know, I'm
a trail runner, so we have decent trails, but like
we don't have elevation or anything like that, so I
have to get creative when I'm looking for elevation and
hill yeah, things like that. But I've got this shirt
that I bought from our one of the local shirt
apparel people. Yeah, short shops. What the fuck effort? Jupe

(10:41):
Mode is the is the store and they have the shirt.
Sarah got it for me for my birthday. It says
no peaks, just perks. You know, it's about the parks. Yeah. Yeah,
but yeah, my run I went on a run today.
So I'm training for like I mentioned last week on
the podcast, I got a lot of messages actually when
I dropped that tidbit on the podcast, like you want

(11:03):
to train for fifty k, let's go, you know, and
not a lot of about it.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Hun peeps too. I love seeing all of the yeah running, Yeah,
awesome for sure.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
So I'm training for endurance, but I'm also training to
get fast as fuck, you know. So, yeah, I had
a Temple run this point. That's so.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
Where is that prom okay Temple Tempo run?

Speaker 1 (11:22):
It was a meme. It was a meme on the interwebs. Yeah, yeah,
but damn that Temple run was so hard. I had
did yeah, two miles at like a ten k ish
pace which was like about seven thirty five for me
a mile, and then one mile at a five k
pace which is about at seven fifteen and oh my god,
oh my god, it was so hard. Three miles. Yeah,

(11:43):
stained effort. And that's what temple runs are for, to
get you used to running hard for longer. Right, Oh
my god. Yeah, Well with that humidity, it was so hard.
But I did it, and I feel better that I
did it. The reasons million excuses that I was giving
myself before to not do it. I'm tired, I don't
have enough time, all these other things.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
But so, and we want to talk about motivation today,
maybe that should be our segue into that.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Sure, yeah, we can definitely do it. We have a
lot of good topics planned for that's. Yeah, we can
definitely start there, you know. So, as I was sitting
on the couch this morning thinking about my day ahead
of me, and it was already like eight thirty in
the morning, and I was kind of dragging my feet
a little bit because admittedly I stayed up late last night,
my own fucking fault, right, So I came up till
like one o'clock last night because I found a sci

(12:29):
fi movie on Paramount Plus that I really caught my
attention and I loved it. Yeah, it was called Slingshot.
Casey Affleck is in it and Laurence Fishburne is in it.
Really good movie if you're into sci FI'SI but it
got me hooked. So I stayed up till one o'clock,
stayed up too late this morning, so tired, right, didn't
have the sitting on my coffee couch this morning, drinking

(12:51):
my coffee. I'm like, I'm just gonna do it later, right, Yeah,
that one. So I was gonna do it later. But
then I started thinking, what does that mean? What does
that look like? Because I was talking about my day.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Right, Sorry, I'm not laughing. I'm like to relate to
this a hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, sure, Yeah. At this point, it's almost it's almost
nine o'clock in the morning, So I was like, well,
my day is like, I've got a client call at
ten thirty, I have a client call at eleven, I'm
recording with Nerdle at one, I've got a client call
at three. I got to take Riker to golf at
four thirty, and then I'm going to Sarah's house this
science this evening, right, yeah, realistic. Where the fuck was

(13:30):
I going to fit that run in that in that sense?
You know, I wasn't going to, but I was trying
to tell myself I was just going to do it later.
And I probably could have found time when I took
my son to go golfing, because that's about an hour
and a half window right there, but I like to
use that time to either work or go get my
strength training in, you know. Yeah, so something would have
had to give work strength training. And then I was

(13:50):
also like, but also at that time, it's going to
be so much hotter, it's gonna be so much humid.
It was already hot and humid, right, and I hate, like,
why make it harder for myself? I had no reason
to not do it right then and there I was like,
tell myself, I don't have time because I've got my
call at ten thirty. It's nine o'clock my run. I
knew it was only going to take me no more

(14:11):
than forty five minutes plus shower time an hour yep.
So I was giving myself these excuses. My brain was
telling me all these things why I can't do it,
why I can't do it, why I shouldn't do it
right now? You know? And mainly I, if I'm being
completely honest, that the reason why I was telling myself
I didn't have time to do it or all these

(14:32):
other things, it's because it was fucking hard. I knew
it was going to be a hard workout. Yeah, this
workout's been on my calendar all week. I've seen it coming,
and at first I was looking forward to it, but
the closer I got, I was like, man, that's that's
a tough tempo run. That is a tough tempo run.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
So that was today.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
That was today, yep, yeap, yep. And because I gotta
be honest, running hard and running fast it's a lot
harder for me personally than running for distance.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
I'm saying, I agree, looking forward to.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
The seventeen miles, it's gonna be hard, but it's gonna.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Be a different type of hard, you know, right, right.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
But everything about the Temple run is hard mentally physically,
your gasping for air, you have to really get diligent
with your breathing, the airstick, all those things.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
You know, so mental, those runs are mental as fuck.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yes, yes, so yeah. I had a million reasons to
do to not do it, which is exactly why I
did it.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
Mm hmm. The mental gymnastics we play.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
I do it all the time, and you could spend
fucking thirty minutes mental gymnastic mental just gymnasticing your tire
fucking plan for the day, like back and the court.
It's literally having this conversation in your head. I do
it all the time, and I always end up going
and doing it.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Sure, sure, but.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
That's where you you got to not let yourself give
in to the fucking mental gymnastics.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yes, this is why you guys.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
Follow the plan, not your fucking mood. Yes, it works
every time it does.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
It does. Doing these hard, uncomfortable things is where we grow, right, Like, Yeah,
your brain is literally telling us to not do these
things because your brain doesn't want to do uncomfortable things.
Your brain doesn't want to be who wants to keep
you safe? Yes, and so it proceeds going out and
doing this hard thing and you know, working your body

(16:15):
really really hard like that. It doesn't want to do that.
It doesn't want to adapt, it doesn't want to be
uncomfortable like that. So you start hostigning your own bullshit.
You start doing these brain like comfort seeking tricks essentially. Right. Oh,
I've been so good this week. I deserve a break,
right if I can give myself some grace, Got to
give myself some grace, right, Yeah, I had a client

(16:38):
earlier this week. Call out, Call yourself out, like I've
been giving myself too much grace, right, Like, time to
get dialed in.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
So I'm giving myself one minute of grace during this
whole fucking thing.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah, you've been dialed out?

Speaker 4 (16:48):
What does that mean during this.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
You're not a big fan of that word.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
I'm really I'm really not, because it's like I feel
like people overuse it. I'm just gonna give myself grace,
like really, like for you're for going through life. I mean,
I feel like every day there's occurrences that happen. Mostly
some days are more eventful than others, and we catastrophize
the smallest little things and be like, I'm going to

(17:14):
give myself grace because I had to pick my kid
up from school and I got interrupted, and then I
had to take my dog with a vet and I
had a doctor's appointment.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Just just I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
You know, I'm saying, like, fuck off with your grace
with that shit, Like, but what does it even mean
when you say I'm going to give myself grace?

Speaker 1 (17:30):
I think the way I talk with clients about giving
them self grace, it's when they do something like they overeat,
they emotionally eat or stress or something like that. That's
when you give yourself grace instead of beating yourself the
fuck up and making yourself guilty and shaming yourself.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Right, but giving yourself grace doesn't also doesn't mean that
you continue to do the same damn thing.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
No, right, right, give yourself grace, but become aware of
what just happened and why it happened.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
So that you can learn from it, move on and.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
Grow exactly because you cannot change what just happened.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Grace without growth is just bullshitting yourself.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
Yeah, yes, that's a great God, that was mine. Just
make that up. You just make up. Okay, hold on, let's.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yes, Matt, But it's true. You know, I kind of
came up with a list of like when we were
because we were talking beforehand about what we want to
talk about today. So I think a few other scenarios
of like these brain comfort tricks that we give ourselves. Right,
So there's the negotiator. I'll just do half today and
make up for it later. M We know it never comes.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
You'll never do it later.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Later never comes. Do it now, right, Yeah, the reward dealer.
I crushed it yesterday, so I earned this treat or
I earned this day a dog.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
It's like giving you biscuits for.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Your want to pat on the head in as as
if goals run on brownie points.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
Right.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
No, the perfectionist bailout if I can't do it one
hundred percent. I might as well not bother right, perfect
become the enemy of done. We're gonna know the special
occasion clause it's a birthday or random Tuesday. I deserve
a break, right When you're doing that, then I suddenly
every week has a special occasion. Every day is a

(19:24):
special right.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
It's like going to your son's friend's eighth birthday party
and you're like, fucking go on batch and on the
on the fucking cake.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
It's like, it ain't your birthday. It's an eight year old.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
My sister's step brothers dogs nephew had a birthday, So.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, right, unless it's my birthday, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
I don't know what is your take on birthday weeks,
birthday week? Yeah, like it's my birthday week, it's my
birthday month. I see that.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Like when I think of it, like it's my birthday month,
I think the things I'm going to do.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
I don't think of food or drinking because I don't drink.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Usually it's people partying.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
I just think people don't have hobbies and they really
need to think outside of food and alcohol for fun activities.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, yeah, go run go run really hard to go,
I don't know. Yeah, prep for a photo shoot? You know,
nothing fun about that.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Right, right, right, right, right right.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
So I came up with a few more of these
little brain script bullshitters that we give ourselves here, brain game. Yeah,
the martyr move. I can't train or eat well today
because my family, job, kids need me more. We hear
that so often, right, Yeah. What we're doing is we're
using our job or our kids as an excuse as
to why we can't do something right. I'm avoiding the

(20:49):
hard thing by making it sound noble. I'm a noble
person because I'm putting other people first. No, you need
to fud with yourself first. Yeah, or the future, you promise,
I'll start fresh Monday, Monday, your frames, your brain's favorite mirage, Right,
Monday never comes, Monday never comes. And then one more,
the identity shield. I'm just not that type of person.

(21:09):
How often do you hear that one?

Speaker 4 (21:10):
A lot?

Speaker 1 (21:11):
I want to be a type of person that goes
to the gym, but it's just not me.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Right.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
The cool story, except every that type of person started
where you are. I was not a runner a couple
of years ago. Now I'm a fucking runner, right, you
do it, you're becoming that person by doing the thing. Yeah,
Like I'm just an all or nothing person. I'm just
I'm just a perfectionist. Okay.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
How does it feel to label yourself like that?

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Right, like with with that kind of I don't know,
like something that you just don't want to change and
you're choosing to be m hm. How does it make
you feel like you're choosing to be an all or
nothing person or you're choosing to be a perfectionist when
you don't have to choose that mm hmm. It's like
you're taking the the harder road travels.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Oh yeah, Like so many people are They they don't
want to open their mind or expand their backing behaviors,
and that's that's how we change.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Somebody said this to you.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
No, I'm just saying this is oh I see yeah,
I'm like repeating right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yes, it's a very closed mindset, right, Yeah. What so
many people are are they?

Speaker 4 (22:18):
Maybe they don't realize of that stick to mindset.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, yeah, I'm just this is the way it is.
I'm just this. This is just the type of person
that I am. That's bullshit, right, It's total bullshit.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
M m mm hmmm. So yeah, I was able to
work through it right this morning, I recognized that I
was that I was giving myself these little tricks, these
brain tricks. My brain was trying to trick me and
keep me comfortable, keep me safe, and not wanting me
to do the hard thing. So I manned up. I
put my big boy pants on, put my running shoes on,
and I hit it. And typically typically I run or

(22:54):
I want I drive to the park to go. Today
I ran to the park nice, didn't even give myself
any any split seconds to second guess my decision by
being there, put on my running shoes, hit out the door,
head out the door, started running, got my warm up
in my one mile warm up, was to the park,
got my three miles in at the park, and then

(23:16):
ran and walked back. As my recovery didn any like,
didn't give myself the opportunity to the second guess myself
sometimes do that. It's going to take action.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah exactly, put your shoes on and get out the door.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Mm hmmm, mm hmmm. Didn't you finish my coffee? As
I as I was recognizing.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
You knew Matt, you knew you had to do it
or you weren't gonna you weren't gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
That was my only opportunity or situation. If I put
it off a split second longer, it was not. Yeah,
I recognized that about myself. And this is really where
like the awareness pays off, like and learning about yourself
and understanding yourself and applying like this mindfulness to to
yourself and having that growth mindset. I know this is
how I operate. So I'm gonna not do that.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
Know thyself, God thyself.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
It's very key, very key, absolutely aues. I want to say,
find like three words together there?

Speaker 4 (24:14):
Oh my goodness. Should we talk about the question that
I got.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
On my Q and Aye think that we've talked about
on this podcast before, so it kind of correlates.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
I don't remember what episode, but it was recent.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
I'm sure, Yeah, totally, let's do it.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
So on your podcast, you mentioned the isolation that you
felt during your photo prep. Can you speak a little
on that. I think many of us feel the same way,
and it could be one of the more challenging aspects
of fat loss.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
One. What's it like to have a goal when no
one else around you has the same goal, right.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
I can feel very isolating.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Yeah, yeah, I can't.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
You're like, there's nobody else that understands what you're going through.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
And that's okay because no one has to.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
You're not doing it for anybody else, and I think
you have to be okay with people not understanding. My
husband has not understand it about this for the last year,
but recently, since he's seeing the fruition of my work. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying, he's like, he's so complimentary,
Like this morning, he was like.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Literally, he's like, he came out to me, so you're
a fucking work of art.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
And I'm like, are you wait when I started laughing,
I'm like, are you serious on it again? He's like no,
but for real. And then when the cameras were off,
I was like cooking breakfast. He's like, you don't know,
how proud of you for you like do this every
day and that that is really impressive.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
And and he he's been.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
More supportive recently than before because it it was like
a lot of traveling when I'm doing this and me
prepping and not being able to eat with them, you know,
not going out to dinners, you know, things like that,
which that can be hard.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, your priorities shifted, right, A lot of priority shifted.
That can mean different social patterns.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah, and you know, we don't go out to drink
and we don't do a lot of crazy fucking functions
or anything.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
So in that aspect, it wasn't a big deal.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
But we did have It's summer in Maine, we had
family here, there was Gregory's memorial. There's things we had
to do, and I had to either bring my food,
but there's main fares, you know, and I have to
like everything's very rigid and it could be annoying for
the other people, right, But also I try not to

(26:31):
put my deal on them. I just take care of myself,
like you know, it's it's like, okay, I know I
have to pack my food.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
They don't have to worry about fucking anything.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
So the fact that I think you've been around when
I was in that first like mini cut to prep
for what my calories were going to be, and it's
like that mind fuck of like, and that was in Florida,
So it was kind.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Of that was in Florida. But also you're around me,
who like is just an eating machine. Yeah, right, And.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
So being having me rigid then and you know, make
decisions then that I thought would and it was more
me thinking about it more than anyone else.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Like you know, it's tough. It's tough, and that goes
for fat loss, you know, goes no matter.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
What anything right like running a marathon. Running a marathon,
you have to your time is spent doing running.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
And yeah, totally that could be.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
That's a job.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
I received a similar question last week when when you
and I were chatting about what we wanted to talk about.
My client, Anna said, last week best talked about how
isolating things can become when we are training for something
so specific. Any tips on handling that, if either of
you can discuss that. With marathon training coming, I know
life is about to take a drastic shift, right, So Anna,
it's been she just completed a twenty five k shout out, Anna,

(27:49):
twenty five k trail run. But she's amazing, right, and
now she's stepping it up to this is a step
in her journey to running a full marathon in January.
But training has a lot to be a lot more
intense now, you know, twenty five k is about a
little bit more than fifteen miles marathon is twenty six, right,
training is going to be looking a lot differently, so
going to you're going to be isolated when you when
you have these crazy goals, your your patterns change. Right,

(28:13):
you have long runs on your weekends. Maybe if you're
like you or somebody's on a fat loss phase, maybe
that means meal prepping on the weekends instead of going
out to eat on the weekends. You know, Yeah, that's
a struggle for so many people missing out on that
social social aspect. And you don't have to miss out
on that social aspect, but you do have to maybe
take your own mules or be more dial in with

(28:35):
your nutrition.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Right, we chose this.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
We have to remember that I chose this. Whatever your
goal is, you chose that goal. And I think it's
very important to communicate with your significant other exactly what
it's going to entail so they know and either they're
going to support you or they're not. You know, my
husband has always supported me with everything I do, but
it doesn't mean that he doesn't have his moments where

(28:59):
he gets frustrated, and that's fucking that's normal. We talk
about it, but in the end he still supports me.
So I think consistently talking about it working together. You know,
I don't let things go because I'm working on myself.
I'm still making meals for my son and maybe if
my husband wants to eat some of that foody can.
But it's not like I'm making family dinners, right, But

(29:20):
I'm still doing before. I'm not slacking, and nothing is
like going by the wayside because I am in this.
It's just some of our things that we do for
our lifestyle have changed really essentially.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, Yeah, a lot people understanding from others are in
our life, our spouse's significant others can really can really
be disheartening for sure. Yeah, friends and family might not
get why you can't just skip a run when you're
on marathon training or loosen up on your nutrition on
the weekends, you know, Yeah, and that they don't need
to understand, right, And I.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Can guarantee once you have reached your goal, if you
accomplish what you meant to you set out to accomplish,
they will be so fucking proud of you. It's just
that they don't understand the level or even what you're doing.
It's almost like you just do it and then the
proof is in the pudding. Like, holy fuck, you know
for sure you weren't fucking around you did that thing. Yeah,

(30:13):
and if they don't support you, that's a whole different story.
And I really don't know what to say about that.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
I think that's where a lot of people get scared
of worry about it, is, like, what if they don't
support me? Right, if there's a negative reaction to this
thing that I'm doing and me prioritizing myself, me saying
no more, right.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
That's another topic.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
That's a that's a marriage counseling topic for sure. Okay, No,
I mean if that's where you are, you got to
have someone that supports you. I'm sorry, Like, no one
is going to make me or make me feel like
I shouldn't accomplish what I want to accomplish in life, Yeah,
because that means I'm missing out on something that I
only get one chance to do. Like fuck you, Like,
I only have one life, So I'm not going to

(30:57):
make the fact that my husband make it irritated if
I don't go out to dinner a couple times this
year or whatever, whatever, you know, because I'm doing this thing.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
M agreed. This has made me think of a conversation
I had just had with Sarah and her friend Emma
last week when we were at a concerts. We went
to see The Fray on Friday. It was a blast
awesome concert, Yeah, a lot of fun. But when we
were like an intermission or something. I don't know how
how the topic came up came up, but I think
I was talking. Maybe I was talking about my run,

(31:26):
imagine that or something. But Sarah asked me, She's like,
why are you doing? Why are you training for a
fifty k right now? Right? And I was like, She's like,
do you She's like, you haven't really mentioned like having
a race or anything like that. I'm like, to be honest,
I don't have a race that i'm training for. I'm
just training to train for something right now. Yeah, I'm

(31:48):
training as if I'm going to a run of fifty k.
Maybe I'll find a race to do, maybe I won't,
but I'm still training as if I'm, you know, doing
that thing. And I started looking up some races. I've
got a few in the back of my mind that
in that in the timeframe that I'm looking at that
I'm I'm might that I'll probably end up committing to.
But right now, I don't want to put that that thing.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Down pressure on yourself. Yeah, I'm just doing it for me.
I'm just okay, Like that's cool.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah, I don't need to. I don't need a race
to commit and and to to take my running seriously
and to get more structured.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
And more people sign up for races so they do
commit to something and you don't necessarily have to pay
for a race to commit to it.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
I think that's really a big straw, very common in
the runner world, honestly, the post or the post race blues,
the post post race depression in between races, like what
do I do now? Right? So you have to find
your passion and train because you love fucking training.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, that's why I was hesitant at first to talk
about this goal that I had on the podcast. You know,
I'm eight weeks, nine weeks into training and just now
talked about it last week for the first time on
the podcasts. That's really it. Really quickly, I think we
have a shout out, a couple of shoutouts. Perhaps we
want to give too, huh. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
We got a post in our Facebook group, our cut
the Crap Facebook group that was so awesome. Natalie Natalie Cecilia.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, Hi, Hi Natalie. What's up? Natalie?

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Natalie all right, she says Beth and Matt, you are great.
You are like the coffee comfort on the way to work.
Thank you for inspiring me every day through your podcast
and the Patreon. I'm semi new to the podcast and
Patreon started both in May. Welcome to the Patreon and
the podcast. So I am binging old episodes to get
caught up. And it's funny because Matt, I listened to

(33:38):
one from a few years ago last week. This is funny,
and you were agreeing with a guest how much you
hated running. And today I listen and you are now
training for an ultra go you. That's pretty awesome. Awesome, Beth.
I'm so excited for your ten year anniversary and your
photo shoot. What a way to celebrate sober and looking

(33:58):
your best. So, Natalie Cecilia, thank you so much, and
welcome common.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Welcome to the fan.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
Yeah, welcome to the fan, the podcast and the Patreon fan.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
And it is so funny because I was for years,
I would say, and I've dabb I've I've experimented with
running so much in my life, you know, but I
always kind of fell off of it because I never
truly enjoyed it, and I was because it's because I
was doing it for the wrong reasons too. Yeah, But
so I was thinking about this comment after you said
it to me. I was like, you know, this really
just shows like why you never just say fixed in

(34:30):
your in your ways of thinking. Right. Had I've been
just like, oh, I hate running, I never would have
like and just kept telling myself that we wouldn't have
started running again and found out that I actually love it,
you know, and I would it have grown.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
Right.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
A lot of people hate running because they run. They
don't start out slow. They right, Yes, you start out
running too fast, run, get injured and you can't breathe,
and it fucking sucks. Like you know what I'm saying,
You're supposed to run slow so you can talk and
so it doesn't feel like you're dying, and then you
just get faster and faster. Trust, but it really is

(35:06):
comes down. My sister said the same thing when I
was really big into running. She's like, the only way
I'll ever run if I'm being chased by the cops.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
I would always say, if I'm running, you better run
because the zombie's chasing me.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, and so and now I don't know how many
races she's run, like fucking Disney half marathons, you know, And.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
So it's slight. It's just hilarious. Yeah, everyone that said
that at some point agreed.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
So if you hate running, I encourage you to give
it another try, but just slow the health down and
be intentional with it. Just enjoy it. There's no there's
no time that you need to hit that makes you
a runner, right. That's one thing I hear so often
is like, I want to run, but I'm a slow runner. Like,
you know, I'm so slow. Okay, so what I'm slow

(35:53):
compared to usaint fucking bolt? You know?

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, is that gonna stop me? You know?

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (36:00):
So much faster than I was a couple of years ago.
Like I've been running now about two years, I guess
pretty consistently, and I'm so much faster than I was
two years ago. My oh yeah, my slow times were
like eleven to twelve minute miles for my slow paces
back then. Now I'm doing like eight and a half
to nine minutes for my slow paces. You know, it

(36:20):
didn't happen overnight, but it happened over two years of
being intentional with going slow.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, you know, it's suck with everything guys, Right, Like
when you start string training, you're a beginner. You're a
beginner runner. It's gonna suck. Everything sucks when you're a beginner.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yes, and you're gonna you know.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Why everyone thinks when they start something they need to
be a master at it, Like with anything like tracking calories.
It's like, of course, you're not not gonna what the
fuck you're doing if you've never done it before. You
just have to learn. You have to be okay with
teaching yourself something. My god, you know, like spend some
time on yourself besides scrolling and learn the craft that

(37:03):
you want to learn, and be okay with fumbling around.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Most people are not prodigies when they when you know,
when they settle, unless you're.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
You're like a natural talent and you fucking like literally
came out of the womb hitting home run Baseball's at three.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Do you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Like that's your wood, you know, you know most people
are not like that, So you got to put some
fumbling around and.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Not not being good at first.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yes, I encourage everybody listening right now. Get out there
and find something they suck at and do it and
embrace the suck, because that's the only way you're going
to grow, that's the only way you're going to find
something new that you love. That's the only way you're
going to learn about yourself to suck at something and
sticking with it.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
David Goggins in the book Can't Hurt Me, he suggests
to do something hard every single day, do something that
you don't want to do every day.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
I still need to read that book.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
You do, Matt, In fact, get in on audio and
listen to.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
It on your runs, it on my long run or something.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
I love it swear do it on the seventeen miler.
That's what I did. It was fucking incredible.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
It just pumps you up, It really does, because he
gets in and starts reading a lot of it.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah. So, I had a David Goggins video popped up
on my page just the other day and people were talking.
He was like, everybody's been asking where David Goggins is,
that he fell off, that he's depressed, and this and
this and this. He's like, I've been in the mountains
running two hundred fucking miles, you know.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, he just clip pleaded the bad Lands two hundred
miler fucking badass man.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
I can't even that's crazy. I don't even know how
old he is now and how many he's.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Like, I'm a hundred and ninety night, like he's over
fifty right, Like he's like, I'm one hundred and one
mile Togo. This is where the fuck I've been.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
And as many times as he's shattered his ankles and
his knees, and like he just keeps doing it.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Yeah, all right, that's gonna be next.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Yeah, he talks about all mental So I think I
really think you'd love it. That I knew you'd love running,
so I I know you'd love this.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Yeah, for sure. I'll definitely put that on my because
that's one thing on my podcast, my long runs is
the only time I really listen to music. Actually anymore
on my runs is on my my hard runs, like
my tempo runs and my speed work, yeah, because I
just need I like to run to the beat and
I like to have that extra push. But on my
long runs and my easy runs, I'm listening to podcasts,
I'm listening to other books like with Art for a

(39:23):
fifth that Strong book Club. Right now we're listening we're
reading Atomic Habits, so I'm reading that again, listening to
it again, you know.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
Yep, so have that on audio too.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
I'm definitely I'll cue that up for myself.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
The only time I really listen to the music now
is at the gym my walks sometimes.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
I've been walking in silence a lot lately.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
It's nice, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
And I put my headphones on and then I just
it kind of drowns out everything and I just walk
and there's nothing playing at all very much.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
I have my butt.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
I'm trying to be more mindful, and I'm trying to
not scroll as much. I don't want to be on
my phone scrolling Instagram because it just makes me really angry,
and I don't like where we're headed. Yeah, And it's
just it's Instagram scrolling in the videos and the marketing,
and it's just.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
I'm not liking it right now, Matt.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
And I'm just I got so much to do, like
I want to help so many people, and looking at
all this toxic shit is just it keeps my mind
in the negative space and I don't need that, you know.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
For sure?

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Yeah, I'm just I will be in my damns.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
I will make videos and answer questions, but I'm not
going to be a scroller.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah. Well I mentioned that I was. I mentioned that
last week on the podcast of how Actually did Huh,
that I was consuming too much.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Right, So that's why I set myself myself a goal
to post more rather than consume more. So I'm consuming.
That's I'm posting a little bit more, not posting as
much as i'd like, But you know what, that's okay,
I'm working towards it.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
So yeah, I've been wanting to be a real silent lately.
I feel like I go through these phases of not
wanting to talk at all. Yeah, and then I'll have
a lot to talk about.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
And also it's just I know, the next few weeks
are I think it's the introvert extrovert you know too,
Like I'm going to be busy for the next few
weeks and around a lot of people, so almost sometimes
we'll just like shut I'm preemptively shutting the fuck down.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
Yeah. Yeah, Like I just you and I got invited
to talk on a podcast, right, Like you're so you're
busy coming up, So like we yeah, we're going to
do it, but it's going to be like the first
week of September.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
You know, I had to.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
I was like, I gotta wait because I don't want
to overextend myself on I know I'll end up stressing out.
So I'm like, yeah, I can do it, and that's
not too far away. It's not it's kind of not
to be able to have to do it next week.
I mean, right, I have to be Okay, we'd be like, yeah,
I can do it in September, and.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
If the person didn't want to wait, okay, then that's.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Their problem, you know, right exactly.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
The person we're going to be talking with is awesome.
Of course, he's like, yeah, it's really fine. Yeah, it's
gonna be fun, it gonna be a great exactly. Yeah.
So maybe what about, like let's continue down this talk
of like combating the isolation and the mental resistance and
some things we can do.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
When people say they feel so isolated, like what exactly
does that mean?

Speaker 4 (41:58):
Really? Too?

Speaker 2 (42:00):
And when I said I feel isolated, it was more
like more like I'm just doing this like me and
no one else is doing it, but other people are
on the other ends of the United States, right, but
isolated in a sense where everything is so rigid. I
think if you are in like not a bikini prep,
I don't think you would feel as isolated as I

(42:22):
have been unless you're doing things with you it's super rigid.
So that's another area I want to talk about, like
why are you feeling so isolated? What are you doing
that's making you feel that way? Because me, mine is
very rigid, Like there's no going out to eat whole foods,
you know, not a lot of processed foods. It's because
I'm in a bikini prep. It's a whole other level. Right,

(42:43):
But in a normal this fat to get strong general population, you.

Speaker 4 (42:49):
Could still go out to dinner, right.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
So you don't just can't have the appetizer and the
desis every time, you know.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
So I want to know where the isolation part is
coming from in that aspect.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah, I hear you. I agree with you on that.
I think maybe what they're feeling too, and people please
correct me if I'm wrong here everybody, but like maybe
they're feeling some resentment, maybe not resentment, but resistance. You
have resistance there, you know, because maybe it doesn't even
align like the thing they're doing is making them feel isolated,
doesn't even it's not even something they want to do

(43:24):
and they enjoy. Right, So like getting back to your why,
you know, revisit that deeper reason why you're doing the
hard thing that you're doing. Right with Turtle, why are
you doing the photoshoot right now? Or why are you
doing this prep right now?

Speaker 4 (43:39):
Because I could do hard things.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Because you can do hard things.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
I want to challenge myself because I want to see
if I could do it. I've never done it before.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah, I'm also a coach, like I've always done kind
of things to see, you know, like let's say, like
I did my RP bikini like ad challenge, like doing
something because you might teach it. You never know, Right,
I'm learning different things tracking macronutrients and having physical let's say,

(44:06):
esthetic goals instead of just like fat loss goals. There's
I didn't know that your muscle, bellies and all these
things pop when they have more micronutrients and things like that,
and you're eating more nutrient dense foods and that's why
we talk about having the majority of your diet nutrient dense.
And also the reason that I can't fit a lot
of highly processed foods is because I am having low

(44:29):
calories and I need my calories to come from food
that is not not nutrient void, because we all know
that highly processed food, like let's say, like fruit loops,
they're nutrient void. They taste good, right, and they have calories,
but they're not giving me the essential nutrients that I
need in a deficit.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
Right For.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
If you just need to fruit loops and you're hungry,
that's not going to satisfy.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah, I need to make sure that I'm eating things
they're going to fill me up. You know, I'm not
just I'm hungry, like thirty seconds later like me, I.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Have actually I actually have fruit loops in my cupboard.
I haven't eaten any of them yet. But if I
were to eat some fruit loops, it wouldn't be because
I'm hungry, you know, even though I have the flexibility
to eat a lot of food right now, I would
eat them just because I want them and because they sound.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Yeah, and that might be another part of the isolation
that I'm feeling too, is that you know, I'm not
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
Really like able to grab like let's say, hey.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Let's have some fucking cheese it, So let's have some
fucking and stuff like that, my bite, slicks and taste.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
You know, this is a different level that I've never
had either.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Yeah, for sure. I think one of one of the
reasons why it's easy to feel isolating, the sphere of
isolation when you're going on on fat loss journey or
running whatever your fitness journey entails for yourself is not
being with people who understand what you're going through. And
you don't have people to encourage you doing your specific goal.

(45:50):
And you shouldn't need encouragement, you shouldn't be need the
validation of other people. But it's nice to have other
people in your fucking corner. And this is why community
and having a strong support system is so imperative.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yeah, that's that's really a good point, the community part
of it.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
Like I have my.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Girls that have been doing this with me. We've had
our own little community. Get help me so much, Peggy
and Kelly.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Uh huh. So you're doing it together, right, So you've
got that camaraderie.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
That we have little conversations and so, yeah, I guess
that really makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
I've had some community during this whole thing.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yeah, so and my whole community on the outside as well,
the supports that I've gotten.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Right, you know, you're getting support from your list from
your followers, from our listeners, from probably your own clients, right, Like,
I know that's one thing I hear so much from
my clients and my fifth That strong community is like love.
I just love how supportive everybody is, right, That's what, Yeah,
we hear all the time. It's like, I know I'm
not alone in this because I've got even though we've
virtual friends, we've never met, we'll probably never meet. It's

(46:51):
like I feel like I have family, I have friends,
and they just get it. So find like that support system.
Maybe it's maybe that means you hire a coach just
to have that support and community, and that's okay, join
one on one or group coaching with somebody myself, for Beth,
find a Facebook group that's you know, that's going to
support you. Myself and Beth, we both have amazing Facebook.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
Yeah. What's the name of your Facebook group?

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Strength Beyond the Scale?

Speaker 2 (47:14):
There you go, everyone, Matt, Strength Beyond the Scale. Mine
is the Nobs Nutrition Made Simple Facebook group. So two
free Facebook groups, lots of community, lots of support, right there,
right there.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
We've got to shout out our own fucking community here
with our Facebook group for the podcast.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
It's not too Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
A cut the Crap Patreon Facebook group. If you are
part of the Crap yes, right.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
So.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
That's the Facebook group. We were coming up on nine
hundred members in there, and it's really.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
Been picking Yeah, nice, it has, so I.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Love shout out to everybody in the Facebook group. We've
been seeing more interaction in there and it is just
truly incredible. I know people are sharing their running journeys
in there, their fad loss journeys in there. We've had
a couple of people like I especially love this comment
that somebody's like, Matt, because of your journey, I'm training
for a half marathon. I'm like, let's, oh, you know, so,
let's shows you the power of aligning with people that

(48:05):
are similar in your way of thinking and have similar
goals as yourself. Yep. But yeah, shameless plug here for
our Patreon. You know, if you are looking for that support,
you can join our Patreon and find an amazing community
right there behind you.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
Yep, for sure, join us on our meet and greets
when we have.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Those tots and goats tots.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
They just come out with a raspberry flavor for you. Okay,
so I just got my Raspberry flavored. You haven't a nice,
pretty little package. I don't want to take my Serenity
Gummies yet because it's still too early in the day
and I like to take mine like late afternoonish after dinner.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
At the end of the night.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Yeah, so I'm going to try this later. I'm super
excited Raspberry. I love anything raspberry. So they are new.
If you guys are doing the Serenity Gummy thing, and
maybe try the Raspberry with our code CTC for twenty
percent off.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Totally total min not getting delivered tomorrow, so I'm excited
to try them.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Oh nice, actually came in later, but I'm sure they
expected because we were still to have them before the lawn, right.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Yeah, but that's okay. Shipping happens, you know. Yeah, So
looking forward to trying the new flavor Raspberry. I love.
I love raspberry flavors too. I'm a sucker for just
raspberries period, so I'm excited. I have a client on
Monday say she was gonna she was looking forward and
excited to try them, so she actually picked up the
the Serenity and Flow Gummy bundle, and oh nice. I

(49:28):
mean that's one thing I did this morning to help
me on my workout is as I was headed out
the door, I popped a couple of my flow gummies
for my focus for that workout. I needed that. You know,
I was taking any extra help I could get in
that situation. So and it worked and it helped.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
Oh that's too funny, Matt.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Yeah, I love.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
I just like, didn't finish your coffee, just start fucking
running head but more she's on bi.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Yeah, literally out the door, out the door, and then
I have everything ready to go. I've got my actually,
my flow gummies, my headset for my headphones, and my
chest strap high rate monitor. They're all They're all in
the same place, so I don't have to be searching
for them. I just grab them and go nice, set
myself up.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
You know that's good? Yabits shocking right there, Lord for sure.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Yep yep Cure Nutrition twenty percent off of our code CTC.
You can always bundle and save more too. And another
way you can save more is if you actually do
a subscription too. I don't I think I don't know
what the exact savings are, so I'm not going to
throw it out there, but you do save more if
you subscribe as well. Yeah, so yeah, check it out.
We're really excited for the new flavors. Let me know

(50:31):
what you think best since you get to try it.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
I will, I will.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
We'll let you all know what we think of the
new flavor as well. Yes, one thing I was thinking
of too. So you and I are going to be
together next week. Hm, I'm gonna be. It's gonna be
challenging for me in a couple of ways because of
my training right now. Right So, just like you've it's
been challenging for you to be around me, like when
you've been in your flat loss, It's gonna be challenging

(50:55):
for me next week for my running goals. So I
have to do I think schedule to do like thirty
one miles total next week. I think, okay, including a
fourteen mile long run. So I'm there Tuesday through Sunday.
I'm gonna count Mount Kataden as my hard workout for
running next week. Makes sense. I'm doing yeah, hiking, I'm training, yeah,

(51:16):
and then I'll have three easy runs, so I'll start I'll
get an easy run and on Monday, and then Wednesday
I'll do one, and then Friday I'll probably do one.
But here's the real kicker. I've got a fourteen mile
long run that i have to get in next weekend.
So when I'm there in May, and I've got to
figure out how I'm going to do that, and I'm

(51:36):
going to make it happen, probably Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, because
then I leave Sunday. But this is the thing, like, right,
I'm on this journey, this is my journey. You're not
in this training with me right now. You're not going
to go for a fourteen mile run with me. Tell
me where to go? Good luck, Matt, I'll take I'll
drive you to the trailhead you know.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
Oh yeah right, So like these are.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Those things like I could just say, ooh, I'm traveling.
I'm not gonna do it. No, I dedicated myself to
this fucking goal and I'm going to make it happen,
and I'm going to figure it out.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
Yeah, knock it out now. When you're schedule it, you're
you'll be good.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Right exactly exactly. And then I have another in October.
My buddy's getting married, So I'm going to be traveling
to Pittsburgh a couple of weekends that in October weekends
are for my long runs. Man, mm hmmm, So now
I'm gonna have to figure that out. So these are
these are life things that life isn't going to stop
because I have my goals that I'm working towards. So

(52:29):
I got to figure out how I'm going to make
these things happen. How How am I going to run
twenty miles you know that weekend? I don't know, but
I'm going to figure it out. Yeah, I'll plan it
being intentional about it. Our goals don't stop working just
because life. We have life going on.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
No, I say that all the time. My goals don't
give it, Mike. Goals don't give a fuck if I
don't have time for them.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
They really don't. It's like I get that question all
the time. It's like, what if you just don't feel
like it, well, then do it. I don't feel like
you don't feel like reaching your goal. That's how I feel.
I agree only because I have that mindset mentality that
it's like if you want something, if you make the
choice to do something, follow fucking through with it. Yeah,

(53:09):
that's how you get there.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
And if you can't fall from humble.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
You fuck up.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
But you still keep going until you fucking go there,
because it ain't going to be perfect to get to
wherever you're going. It's just you just have to remember
to just keep going, like, yeah, I have to remember
this too. And it's like when people talk about the isolation.
I was just thinking that the people that are trying
to be fit and healthy, we are like the minority
when you think about it, especially because if we have

(53:34):
an obesity at epidemic in America, the majority of people
are not looking to be healthy or are even trying.
So if you are somebody that is, you probably will
get some slock for it because there's a lot of
people around that that aren't on the same level as you.
On n I know there's a million other people that
aren't on the same level as me either. I'm the minority.

(53:56):
We are the minority, and hopefully someday we'll become the majority,
but right now we aren't.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
So we want everybody to be healthy and active, and.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Not everybody's going to be on the same level or
want to do the same thing as as you because
a lot of people just don't think about that or
is this really they should? They should, but they don't.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
And it's not that simple, right. But at the end
of the day, like you know, we do have the power,
we do have the control, We have the choices to
make yeah or not.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
And if someone is fighting you on something that you're
doing to become a better person, that's a reflection on them,
not you. That means that they feel like shit because
they're not taking care of themselves.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Ye. Yes, I would agree with that one. That so
often with drinking. Right to somebody that's like sober, curious
and wanting to get sober, stop drinking. That might mean
you lose some friends. That might mean people think of
you differently, talk to you differently, don't invite you out
to social events anymore because you're the second person. That's okay,
they weren't meant for you anyway.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
Yeah, I love some friends, but they're the only friends
that I drank with.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Right. It's funny looking back at my partying days. They
that were my best friends. I haven't talked to them
in over a decade. Yeah, we were my friends, they
were part my they were my party friends, right, or
people I partied with people I did stupid shit with
you know, yeah people I was going nowhere with. And
that's fine too, like because a lot of those same
people now they're also like on their own journey, their

(55:22):
own like they're they're not drinking and stuff anymore either.
So we all went through that phase together perhaps, you know,
and we all hear from it too. So but no,
when it's not just with drinking, it's when you start
taking care of yourself. That's and that's a really weird
one too, Like people will mock you when you start
going to the gym, like it's weird, right, like oh,
or especially with the nutrition, right, like, oh, we want

(55:44):
to go out to eat, but so and so can't
have pizza, like because they're eating healthy like what you know, like, no,
stop it. Yeah, it's one hundred percent of projection from
them because they're usually feeling bad about themselves and not
taking care of themselves. They're internalizing it and projecting it
onto you.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
Yep mm hmm mic yeah mic drop I am.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
So that's a good I think place to wrap it up.
I actually want to invite our listeners here. We've been
loving the feedback everybody's been given us, so let's keep
it going here. Yeah, you know a time that you've
felt isolated in pursuit of one of your goals, and
let us know what that goal is, whether it's fat loss,
training for a race, just prioritizing yourself, right, and then

(56:30):
also let us know like the biggest mental trick that
your brain tells yourself to keep you, to keep you comfortable. Yeah,
and I and I've really I'm really interested in that
one too, because if you're able to tell to tell
us what your mental tricks are that your brain's telling you,
you're confronting it. Now, you're raising awareness to it. And
we all know, hopefully we know that without awareness, change

(56:52):
is not possible. So let's get aware. So let's let
us know. Okay, send us a m comments.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
Whatever it is and grace without growth it is.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Bullshit, It's bullshit, is bullshit.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
There you go, Nerdle quote of the year, great road
is bullshit on that.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Now we'll cut the crab, y'all. We'll talk to you
next week.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
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