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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fucking a how cool it is.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I mean, I feel so accomplished and like all the
other women, Peggy sixty one, Amy fifty six, coach Kelly
who's forty, she just turned forty nine. I think she
just had a birthday. It's like, God damn it. We
all did the thing. We were all consistent, we all
like cheered each other on. And I want to bring
hope to others and just let them realize that they're
(00:21):
not fucking broken. You really just have to make the
choice to do it or not and get out of
your own fucking way. It really comes down to that.
There's really no other like. Stump your fucking excuses, focus
on what you can.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Control and just do it. It's either you want it
or you don't. You're in it or you're not. Stop
half assing.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
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Speaker 4 (00:48):
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Speaker 1 (01:42):
I'm burnt out.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know if that's the word actually,
because burnt out seems.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah. I need a I need silence, I need no one.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
A couple of weeks of NonStop being around people, social interactions.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
And I'm such an introvert extrovert and I feel like that,
like as amazing as it was, I need to like
recharge for like a thirty days. Like I feel like
I need to hide in my closet and not talk
to anybody, like Mike can't even talk to me, and like,
just don't talk to me right now, like I will go.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I've had this tension headache for like four days.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yeah, yeah, we kind of we talked about this before
and we just talked about it a couple of weeks
ago too. How you were, you know, preemptively saying no
to things and.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I knew this was going to happen, right, And I.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Think we even talked about this with doctor Joshua Smith
too when we were talking with him about ADHD and
chronic illnesses and things like that. So yeah, very real.
I mean, you've reached you did the thing, So congratulations.
Last time when we talked on this podcast, you hadn't
done it yet.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Oh the photo shoot, Yeah he did.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
It, the big payoff, the big.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Payloaf, he finished. Yeah, it feels.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Like I'm like, oh, yeah, that happened, right.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
It's it's bizarre. It's like, oh wow, we're done.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
What a cool experience. How it went really really really well,
really really really well.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
It was so fun.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
The photographer was great.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Obviously we don't have any photos, right, which is so
many people like, can we see the photos? When let
me see the photos, Like this wasn't taken with an iPhone.
We have to get them edited and everything. Like photographers
she like worked all weekend, it's a holiday. She's like, well,
you know, you might get something in two weeks. That's
what we're looking at.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
That's a really quick turnaround time for photography.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, and that's just for us to choose ones we like.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
That's not even finished editing. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, it
takes a while.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Everyone who took hundreds of pictures, she has to cull
those down and then photography is no joke. People think
it's just taking pictures, but no, no, I.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Mean lighting, and there's there's all the kinds of setup
you know.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yep, it's funny when I saw that on your story
about somebody's not we're just out not out there doing
this with an iPhone. It'd be funny to imagine just
you doing all this work work, right, and then to.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Get photos of an iPhone.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yeah, yeah, to get instant photos. You know.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, it's not how it works, guys. I'm just as
anxious as you, if not more. Okay, right, right, fucking
a how cool it is?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I mean, I feel so accomplished and like all the
other women, Peggy sixty one, Amy fifty six, coach Kelly
who's forty. She just turned forty nine. I think she
just had a birthday. It's like, God, damn it, we
all did the thing. We were all consistent, we all
like cheered each other on, and I want to bring
hope to others and just let them realize that they're
(04:32):
not fucking broken. You really just have to make the
choice to do it or not and get out of
your own fucking way. It really comes down to that.
There's really no other like stump your fucking excuses, focus
on what you can control and just do it. It's
either you want it or you don't. You're in it
or you're not. Stop half assing, you know it's it's
a half assing. Yeah, you got a full asset.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
That's just such a common thing is we have this
feeling that we're doing everything we can, that we're doing
all the right things. But when we start looking at
it objectively via like tracking calories or tracking our workouts,
tracking how we're feeling, that's a really big game changer
for her for like, oh shit, I feel like I
was doing everything right, but this shows me quite clearly
(05:16):
that I was not.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, I know people think that I just made a
video today about it takes forever to lose fats, Like, yeah,
because you're not consistent. You're in this diet mindset. You're
consistently thinking about it, but you're never consistent with it. Right,
So in your mind, you're like, you've been doing this
for a fucking year. Yeah, you've been in the diet
mindset for the year. But if you gave yourself a
commitment of let's say eight to twelve weeks, and you
(05:41):
just did that thing for that specific amount of time,
and you fucking did it every day, imagine what you
would see, what kind of progress you would see. But
you don't give yourself that consistency.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Yeah, I agree. So so many people are living in
that diet mindset. Yeah, they're mentally dieting, even if they
may not be physically dieting. That's the right. Yes, Even
when we're not trying to lose fat, we're still mentally dieting.
We're still good foods, bad foods. We're still struggling with
the food noise, we're still second guessing ourselves, having the
all or nothing thinking, all these things that are associated
(06:13):
with dieting. We're still doing them even if we're not
trying to necessarily lose fat. And then when they do,
you know, try to go into a fat loss phase,
these things come front and center because I didn't address them,
y right, Yeah, So then that's going to exacerbate things.
It's just going to prolong the time that they're in
the deficits because they're constantly starting over, they're constantly beating them. Yeah. Up,
(06:35):
they're restricting, they're doing all these things because they're they're
the diet mindset. I agree, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, and then you're mentally fatigued, do you know, and
then you try to start another thing and you're like
I can't do it, yeah, because you've been mentally trying
to do this for a long time.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
So yeah, yeah, I'm sure our listeners many of them
are probably like, yeah, mentally dieting. Wow, that's that's the thing. Thing.
It's a fucking thing, right, That's that's a big part
of what we do in our program, getting people to
stop mentally dieting.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
It's like you're consistently like thinking about food, think about
what you should not eat, what you should eat, how
much you should eat, where are you gonna go. It's
like you're you're mentally like in your head about it
all the fucking time. And that's not necessarily food noise. Okay,
I feel like food noise someone just like thought of
it one day and now like everybody's got food noise.
When it really comes down to there's different levels, there's
(07:27):
different Think about someone obese with food noise. Their food
noise is so bad that that's why they're in that
body that they're in along with other things.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Right, Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Food nose is food nos a it's always.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
It's a multifaceted levels.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
It is multifaceted, it's complex. You can't just like food
noise as a blanket statement doesn't really help that much
because and a lot of the problems with quote unquote
food noise first and foremost, because it's not a medical term.
It's a newer term in the last few years, but
it's just been really prevalent in these past few years
with the rise of GLP ones, because that's been a
(08:06):
thing that GLP ones have been shown to do, right,
is help people with food noise. But the thing is
with food noise is much of the time food noise
is because they're mentally dieting. They're just chronically dieting. They're
chronic dieters. Maybe you're forty fifty years old and you've
been you tried to lose weight, you were put on
weight watchers when you were twelve years old. That's going
to have long term impacts on your on your mental health,
(08:28):
on your physical health, and your weight, you know. And
so then they're dieting for decades, decades, decades. That is
the food noise.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, constantly trying to lose.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Weight, constantly trying to shrink our body, constantly trying to
like doing detoxes and appetite suppressants, whatever's out there, right, Yeah,
that's all. Yeah, and that's creating this food noise dilemma
that people are struggling with.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
And then along with people not understanding that it's normal
to be hungry, right, like, yeah, like you can't call
hunger food noise. We're going to think about our next meal,
that is normal. Okay, You're where hunger.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Into food noise is if you are hungry and you
just don't eat and you starve yourself, right, then you're
going to start thinking about food more. Right, But you know,
just being hungry isn't a bad thing.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
No, We're supposed to be hungry at specific times of
the day. Do you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
We're supposed to be thinking about food sometimes. It's fucking normal.
We got to stop trying not to be normal. You
don't need to microdose a fucking GLP want to get
rid of your food noise. First of all, it's not
even indicated for that. So when I hear that, it's like,
it makes me fucking want to scream. It's like, already
someone' sin that's thinking that's going to help their food noise.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Well, why are you looking? Why you think you have
food noise?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Is it because you're consistently trying to be at a
body weight that is hard to maintain?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Do you know what I'm saying? Like, there's so many
different things you need to fucking think about.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yeah, Like if you're a thin person, if you're a
fit person and you're struggling with food noise, Like, we
get it right. But that's also where therapy comes into play.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Cognitive behavioral therapy DBT practicing mindful eating, which has been
proven to help with that quote unquote food noise. Right,
you got to stop dieting. You got to stop trying
to maintain a physique that is unsustainable. We're doing this
to ourselves. Yeah, so many people are doing this to themselves.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
My food noise has dramatically decreased just going back.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I mean, oh yeah, I'll talk about like, you know,
maybe people want to know like what I ate right
after and like what my experience was with food.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, so we did get it.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
We got a pizza after our photo shoot and I
had two slices of pizza and then you know, what's
I gotta say. The craziest thing about hopping on getting
you know, normal food and all that stuff is that
it wasn't as exciting as I thought it would be.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
We got cheese, it's and everything.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I didn't even really want any I was like, this
is so fucking weird, Like I the only thing I
really wanted was like fucking toast. I had like four
or five pieces of sour doat toast and butter, and
then after that, I was like that made me full,
and I'm like I just I hate this feeling of
being this full. My digestion was all fucked up, like
because I had we had some gummies on that day.
Of the shoot we had salt were were dehydrated, like
(11:20):
there was a whole protocol, so that made my stomach
all fucked up. And then adding more volume, I guess
you could say, and things like that. It just my
digestion was kind of whacked for a few days and
I felt kind of sick nauseous almost. It was very bizarre.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I didn't really have cravings.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I thought I'd be like out of control almost because
like everything sounded so good before, like in the midst
of the diet, but when it was over and it
was all in front of me, I was just like, yeah,
I don't know, Like it just wasn't appealing.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
It was fucking crazy.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Yeah, that's great observation. And yeah, I think too A
lot of that is because of how you approached your
your prep you fed los Yeah, your body composition phase.
You went into it in a in a healthy way. Yeah,
who didn't. You weren't saying like I can't have this,
I can't have that. If you wanted something, you found
a way to either make it work fit in or
(12:13):
you made a swap, made an alternative for a lower
calorie swap or something like that. But then you were
also you were like telling yourself, this is this is
not forever. I'm doing this for x X weeks, twelve weeks,
whatever it was. Yeah, I'm getting the fuck out. This
food's always going to be there. Right. That's one thing
that I said to you when we were in Maine
last week. I don't can't remember what it was, but
(12:35):
it was fair food or something. Right, Oh, you mean
you're not having any fair food? I would set it jokingly. Right,
You're like, no, it's like I can have it another time.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
That's healthy, you know, And I's why you haven't didn't
have that quote unquote rebound wanting to binge and overeating
and just eating everything inside being revenue not at all.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
In fact, I wanted my normal food. So I was
like back to like what I was eating, like my pancakes.
And I also noticed that from what I was eating,
like and starting to eat other things, it.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Didn't make me feel good. I was like, okay, like
this is just not your.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Body does Your body does adapt and adjust to Yeah.
So so for somebody, we could put this in a
way for somebody that thinks they're like addicted to sugar
or carbs or something like that, right, Like, I promise
you if you do abstain from those things or how
or fix that relationship with it, it's going to get better. Yeah,
(13:27):
it's going to get better. You know, your body craves
what you give it.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Essentially, my body's craving that the more veggies and the
fruits and the rice and potatoes and not more of
the gummies. Like it's like, really, it's really eye opening, honestly.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Yeah, oh yeah, I love it. But you crushed it.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
We did it.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
We did the thing. Did you have now?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Thanks? We're in the reverse, Yeah, we are reversing.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
We talk about that for a few minutes because yeah,
I think that's been controversial, right, reversing, and that's something
we say, like for the general public, you don't have
the reverse, right, So can you explain to me why
you're let's let's first, what does reverse look like for you?
And why are you doing it?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Well?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
First off, I think because we were in it for
sixteen weeks and right now, like I'm let's say, I'm
trying to count how much I'm down. I'm almost down
twenty pounds. Okay, Okay, So coach Kelly didn't really explain
it to me. This is, but this is what I'm thinking.
And she's like, she knows that a lot of people
are not fans of rebursing, and you know, most people
(14:28):
just go right to maintenance. But like I was just saying,
we were eating specific foods. We don't want to add
a bunch of things and have my digestion be all
fucking crazy, right, So there's that the digestion part, and
there's also finding the new maintenance. I may have a
new maintenance now, and I don't want to put on
a bunch of body fat. I want to just keep
it slowly, Let's see where this goes. And so the
(14:49):
scale is not even not going to go down, and
it's not going to go up. So we're just going
to see where we could push the calories, I guess,
but we're going to stay at one specific place for
it's actually it's not that bad. I feel like I'm
not going to be in this very long, probably going
to be a month, and that's it, honestly, Because my
off workout days, I think I have an extra one
hundred and forty calories, and then on my workout days,
(15:12):
I have an extra like two hundred and fifty, and
then I get a free meal a week, which is
like a Friday night like go out to dinner type thing,
no tracking whatever, and then my steps are ten to
twelve thousand on workout days and twelve to fifteen on
non workout days, So those are dramatically decreased. Yes, so yeah,
now it's like I have no pressure of getting a
(15:33):
million steps right, and the only thing that's really changing
colork wise is my carbohydrate intake. That's all the calories
that are changing the facts, and the protein is the same.
It's just we're increasing carbs.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
That's really the one variable that gets manipulated right when
we're in when we're in a weight loss phase fat
fat loss phase, I should say, especially when you're taking
the macro approach, it's the carbs that you manipulate, yeah,
from your protein or your fast.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, because you never want to cut the protein and
you don't want to cut the fat because you need
a specific amount a day.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. With reverse dieting, that's
something that I like, just for the mental side.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Of things, right, that's it too. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yeah, so you're doing it for the mental side, but.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Also mental digestion.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
More food to your system digestion so you can feel good.
It's not because your metabolism's broken.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Like Noah, we're not trying to repair my but there's
no such thing as repairing your metabolism or or any
of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Has nothing to do with that, Okay, in.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
The context that reverse diting is so frequently used.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
For one, yeah, it's it's literally what it is.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
You're adding more calories instead of taking away your reversing
the diet now that.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
You're reverse dieting nerdle, Does this change your stance on
reverse dieting and all? Or are you not your stance?
I was never against it, right, just thought we're like
your opinion on it, like how it's used or anything.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Now I think in the right demographic, sure, people that
are have gotten very very lean like where I'm at
and want to go back to maintenance.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
It's a great place.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Like if you're just a general population, you've reached your
goal body weight and you just want to head to maintenance,
that's fine, But this is like a whole different ball.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Game for sure. I love that answer. Good answer, thanks, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I know people are like, oh, let's also people are
the asking of like, am I afraid of like bulking,
Like I asked, someone's like, you're gonna be bulking, Like
I'm like, what do you What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Like, you're not a bodybuilder, You're not cutting in bulking,
You're not.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
People don't understand and don't you don't understand maintenance. And
this is where everybody struggles is because you get to
your spot where you want to be and you don't
know how to maintain it. And that's why you ask
me consistently, what am I going to do whant to
gain all the weight back? I'm not because I know
how to maintain. Okay, that this is your problem. You
(17:50):
need to learn how to maintain your weight. And that's
why we're going to this reverse and then I'm going
to know where my maintenance is. It's like, you need
to know these numbers. A lot of you don't even
know because you're you get there way back right.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Yeah, obviously we'll get into that maintenance weight, but you
won't get all the weight.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Backround, right, I'm not going to go back to where
it was.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Last right, Yeah, yeah for sure, But.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
That's what people are thinking.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Yeah, people don't know that. I mean, maintenance is half
more than half of the fucking battle when it comes
to weight loss, and I agree, people don't know how
to maintain. They get they get their goal, they reached
their goal, and it's like, okay, diet's over.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Now what yeah, back, go back to my bullshit.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Yeah, and then oh it didn't work. Imagine that because well, yeah,
because you didn't continue doing the things that you did
to get now. So that's why nothing is changing too
drastically for you. Right. The way you maintain your results
is the way you got your results. You keep doing
the thing. I saw a thread on Threads this morning
and I was like, this is just really dumb. Somebody
(18:50):
was like, I'm just going to pull it up here
really quickly.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
I didn't grand my gears, but I was like, this
just doesn't make any sense. They said, doing endless amounts
of cardio is not sustainable and you will gain it
back quickly. And so I'm like, okay, I'm gonna take it.
I take issue with this. So I said, uch, weird,
I run thirty plus miles a week, what exactly am
I supposed to be gaining back my cardiovascular health and endurance?
And they're like, this post isn't directed to runners. If
(19:16):
you enjoy running that much, your weight is likely not
an issue. I've gained and lost weight several times, and
strength training has been effective for me maintaining weight loss.
Lots of cardio works if you enjoy it, but most
do it for quick results and gain back the weight
even quicker once they stop. And I said, well, you
didn't specify that in your post. Same logic would apply
to strength training too, though, right, you have to keep
doing it. The real problem here is that neither cardio
(19:37):
nor strength training are supposed to be for weight loss
for overall health and longetic Yeah, p Trician is the
driver of weight loss, and they blocked me after that.
I was like, why did I get blocked for that?
Because I was not an asshole whatsoever. But you just
can't have different opinions online.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
But yeah, you want to keep the results, you got
to keep doing the thing that got you the results.
That's why crash dieting, chronic dieting, twelve hundred calorie diets,
cutting out carbs, detoxes don't work long term for people.
And newsflash, GLP ones are the same fucking thing. By
the way, you have to stay on them to keep
the results for most people. The research is very very.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I've heard way too many people say they're going to
start those to jump start. It's like, wait a second, how.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
About you jumpstart your fucking foundational shit for like, what
are you doing? You jump start by maybe repairing your
relationship with food, fueling your body with good amount of calories, protein, fiber, micronutrients,
daily movements, stress management. That's a good way to jump
start any journey right there.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
That's not a click away, man.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
That's not a click that's not a discount cody.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
That's not a link in bio away.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Okay, that's not a fifty percent commission for the person
selling me this this drug.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I became unhinged yesterday. Unhinged I saw that Willow. That
Willow is probably the most talk telehealth.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
They consistently market to thin women and young girls, mind you.
And it's like the one with the cake yesterday that
I saw girls you don't need to be obese to
not women, they said, girls, okay, or not not even
ladies right right, girls.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
It's very clear who they're targeting there, because you don't
call women girls, Like I'm a fifty.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Year old woman, would you call me a fifty two
year old girl. Right, No, that fucking sent me. I
literally went postal. I am so passionate about this because
I was this time, Matt before we started pressing record
that they trigger me so bad because I see them everywhere.
They add people taking a GLP one do not trigger me.
It's it's the consistent ads in my face. Okay to
(21:46):
thin women. Right, this is a pharmaceutical and it's not
a fucking supplement, and we're treating it like it's such supplement.
And this has side effects and there are for a
specific demographic. They're not for me. They're not for your
daughter who's fucking fourteen, who's scrolling the internet. Okay, They're
not for someone that's just finished a bodybuilding show or
a bikini prep or who needs to lose ten pounds.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Okay, why are you marketing to me and young women? Stop?
Pharmaceuticals should not be marketed in general.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Okay, what the fuck we This needs to be regulated.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
If I was not in this position that I am
right now, having a healthy relationship with food, being in
a good place mentally with my body and everything I've
worked really fucking hard to get here, I would be
on that shit. And I feel for every person that
was a past me currently feeling the way I know
(22:44):
I would have felt, because it's very enticing, very enticing.
I could easily right now be like, you know what,
I'm just gonna do a GLP one so I can
just maintain this weight, or why not if I was
in a fucked up headplace. And that's what people are, right,
That's what people are doing, and it's making me absolutely
fucking insane. Not everyone needs to be on these medications,
(23:04):
and it's being pushed as.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
If everyone should be on them. That's a fucking problem.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
That's a problem, and it's who is pushing them to right,
We don't. Right, your doctor talking to you about getting
on a GLP one is completely different than a fucking
wellness influencer that you follow online talking about GLP ones
and promoting them and yes and link in bio to
do your labs and all this shit. Completely different. That
(23:30):
is monetized, monetized drug use right there, They're becoming a
drug use whatever they call drug dealer of drug dealers
is what they are. They're making money off of your health.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yep, yep, exactly, that's what it is.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
There's the emotional impact, right, it reinforces like this DIA
culture that is so prevalent, and we've been doing such good,
such good, hard work to reverse. I was feeling really
good about the direction that DIA culture was headed. Social
media was headed with diaculture, you know, around the twenty
twenty and the couple of years after that, so like
(24:06):
two thousand to twenty twenty through twenty twenty three probably,
but it's been it's really completely done to one eighty
now these last couple of years, and it's like skinny
tops back, Disordered eating is back being just glamorized, you know,
as health and wellness on unrealistic expectations, Body checking is back,
Selling our bodies is back, you know, all of the
(24:27):
shit is back. And it's really we're just reinforcing that
diet culture and body dissatisfaction and people of all ages,
but especially the younger demographic. And we we fucking know better,
that's the thing. Like, we know better because the people
that are doing these things now struggle have struggled with
these things their entire life too, So why the fuck
are you gonna perpetuate that cycle? We should be breaking
(24:47):
that cycle. Yeah, we have that power to break it,
but for one reason or another, we're not. Yeah, sustainable
health hasn't found in a prescription. If you don't, if
you don't medically need it, that's bullshit. It is harmful.
I did pull up some statistics about this too, if
you're interested about eating disorders and disordered eating and women,
(25:10):
especially in young women, because this is where I see
this kind of going. About nine percent of the US
population will have an eating disorder in their lifetime. Nine percent.
Women aged twelve to thirty five are the highest at
risk group, and roughly one in five minute women will
experience an eating disorder by age forty. It's crazy. And
(25:34):
then there's even further than this, subclinical disordered eating. You know,
there's a difference between disordered eating and a clinically diagnosed
eating disorder, but disordered eating is chronic dieting, food restriction,
compulsive exercise. Right. That affects twenty to forty percent of
college aged women. That's a that's a lot, and I
would argue that that's numbers actually higher. Now probably maybe
(25:58):
I only feel like that because that's my who I
work with. I work with mostly women that have struggled
with disordered eating and are looking to repair their relationship
with food. So maybe I'm I'm just my blinded a
little bit or biased it a little bit there. But
you just look online and people that are promoting healthy
lifestyles and sustainable weight loss, like a lot of them
(26:18):
are just really just doing disordered eating shit.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
And oh yeah, oh yeah, all the orthorexia.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Yeah, orthorexia, that's clean.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
The obsession with clean eating.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Yeah, obsession with clean eating. Yeah. We have anarexia nervosa
which is about zero point nine percent of all women.
Bolimia nervosa is one point five percent of women. Binge
eating disorder is three point five percent of women. It's
just crazy, It's just crazy. Here's why this is such.
This is a conversation that needs to be continued to
(26:50):
be had about GLP ones exacerbating these disordered eating tendencies.
If you have a shitty relationship with food, it's it's
really a slippery slope. Eating disorders have the second highest
mortality rate of all mental illnesses after opioid usage. That's crazy. Yeah,
mortality for anorexia alone is five to ten percent. Five
(27:12):
to ten percent of all people that are diagnosed with
anorexia die from it, and then we have increased risk
of anorexia two and completion of ending their life and
things like that. Right, So it's it's not a pretty
picture that's being painted with our checkered history, our fucked
up history with diet and exercise and disordered eating. The
(27:34):
fact that you can just go online and get a
GLP one with a discount code when you're not medically
approved for it, that's a big fucking problem. It's a
big fucking problem, and it's only going to continue to
get worse because of the lack of regulation, the lack
of things that are being done about these telemarketing, telehealth companies,
(27:55):
med spas, compounded pharmacies.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
It's not command well.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
It's not going to end well.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
It's not gonna end well.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
If your doctor says that you are not qualified to
take this and he does not recommend it for you,
why would you go to a telehealth company and get
the medication. I heard some people do that in my
comments section, and it didn't end well for them. Their
doctor is like, no, with your gastro intestinal issues, you
probably shouldn't take this drug. Why what does it do,
Matt It slows down your digestion, and of course what
happened to this woman. She got gastiophoresis and she ended
(28:24):
up in the er a few times, and she said
she should have listened to her doctor. So this is
the kind of shit that's happening. Okay, there's reasons why
your doctor says no mm hm. So if you're going
to fuck around and find out that's on you.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Yeah, when we've been trying to we've been shouting, you
know for years now, like hey, like yeah, only people
that really need these should be using them, exactly. And
that's a controversial thing to fucking say, Like it's crazy,
Like we're being gas lit exactly right, We're being gas
lit by saying, hey, there's nothing wrong with these drugs
for the right people, but not everybody needs to take them. Yeah,
(29:01):
we're the assholes.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
How dare us?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yes, exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
How dais we cut into the influencer's bottom bottom line
and take out code away from them, their commission from them,
how darras? Yes, this isn't just the United States problem.
This is a worldwide problem. The World Health Organization estimates
that seventy million people globally live with an eating disorder,
and of those seventy million people. Seventy percent of all
(29:29):
cases are women, and eating disorders are most common in
adolescents in early child early adulthood, so between the ages
of twelve to twenty five. But there is some interesting
data too showing that eating disorders are actually on the
rise in midlife and menopausal women, right, which we know
are being really targeted with these drugs as well, because
(29:50):
you've listened to health and wellness influencers online. Menopausal women
are fucking broken. There's nothing they can do, so you
might as well hop on a GLP one, right.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
A large study, the National Comorbidity Survey, found that three
and a half percent of women aged forty to sixty
meat criteria for a clinical eating disorder. They're just not diagnosed,
and that subclinical disordered eating. Right, So the yo yo dieting,
chronic restriction, binge, restrict cycle, compulsive exercise is actually much higher.
It's up thirteen to twenty percent in this age group,
(30:21):
so it's increasing in the last decade, thanks right. A
twenty seventeen review in the Menopause journal Maturitaz found significant
increases in disordered eating symptoms during perimenopause and postmenopause, especially
binge eating and body image distress. And that makes sense.
(30:43):
Perimenopausal women and postmenopausal women, what's the messaging towards them online?
Cortisol face, menobelly inflammation, you're in flame, right, there's something
wrong with the way you fucking look. There's something wrong
with you. So of course, like that's going to incre
and that's going to increase in body dissatisfaction and disordered
(31:04):
eating because now you think that you've got something like
this fucking problem, you've got your cortisol face, so you've
got to stay away from cortisol spiking whatever the fuck, right,
and there's that disordered eating habit being reinforced. Now. Yeah,
it's just it's not it's it's not good out. There's
there's not it's not a good good outlook, especially for
menopausal women. They're massive target right for wellness products, supplements, yeah,
(31:29):
anti aging programs, diet plans, and g LP ones. Yeah,
they're highly susceptible. These are women that have been that
started when they were little like girls, right, the teenagers
and things like that. They targeted for decades now that
there was always something wrong with them, and now the
latest thing is we'll just get you on GLP one
and it's going to fix everything for you. Yeah, and
(31:51):
again GLP one. We're not against them, but I.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Know, I don't know how many times I have to
say this and.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Say after every set.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
It fucking makes me crazy because it's like people are
not listening, fucking saying, man, God damn it. It really
makes me crazy how many times we have to repeat
ourselves and someone still misses the fucking plots.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
To the last few years, I would say telehealth companies
really took off because of COVID. Right prior to that,
the way to get drugs was from your doctor, okay,
and didn't get them approved from your doctor. Guess what
you did. You went to the black market and you
got them. It's kind of the same thing, except now
that there's no black market, it's a gray market, because
(32:34):
that's what these compounding pharmacies, these telehealth companies are. It's
a gray It's like it's like getting steroids from a
me head at the gym and going out back behind
the gym and getting him out of his fucking trunk,
except now you're doing it online. That's really it. It's
the same fucking thing. Yeah, it's actually insane how normalized
(32:57):
this has been.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
It really is.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Yeah, I think influencers should be ashamed of themselves, people
that are promoted that are that are profiting off of
GLP one usage. We shouldn't be profiting off of drugs,
especially not as coaches and influencers.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
People like doctors profit off prescriptions, and you're over there
giving your fucking discount code for your fucking DLP one.
I mean, are you fucking out of your mind?
Speaker 4 (33:22):
M right? The doctors are the problem, But not an
influencer with a discount code for GLP one with a
commission link. That's okay. Doctors, they they the doctors. They
want you fat. They are here to make a profit
off of you. But not that influencer that's sending you
to Americ Health. They have your best interest step mind.
(33:42):
They've never talked to you a day in their fucking life,
but they have your best inter step mind, and they
know exactly LP one. Let's get real with.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Ourselves here, people exactly.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
No, Yes, profiting off of your fucking health, that's what
it's called. They don't give a shit.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
I don't know. I don't know how to make this
more clear. Yeah, drugs are between you and your doctor.
These aren't something to be fucking around.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Man, my doctor won't give it to me.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Well, there's a reason for that, and.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
That's what I fucking hear all the time.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Well there's a fucking reason for that. Your doctor won't
give it to you. Oh my god, why why do
you think that is your doctor? Your doctor just hates you. No,
it's because you don't qualify. So you're gonna go. Mom
told me no, so I'm gonna go ask dad instead.
That's what it's given, right, Mom said, I can't go
(34:36):
do that thing. I know Dad's gonna tell me yes,
because Dad's a pushover, so I'm gonna go ask him. Yeah,
that's what the online telehealth company is. It's pushover. They
don't say no to people. Who the fuck do they
say no to do? They don't even do full fucking
health screening to Really, they don't know your history. You
might get, if you're lucky, a ten minute consult with
(34:56):
a doctor after you pay them a couple hundred dollars
to sign up for for their fucking h MLM or
whatever product they have. Ten minutes is gonna that that's
going to do you justice. They're going to understand your
full medical history and your lab work and everything in
ten minutes and ten minute consult with your doctor and
then once a month check in with an automated fucking system.
(35:19):
You can lie on your responses. Yeah, like, we know
how this shit works. We know how easy it is
to manipulate this shit. My girlfriend's on a GLP one.
I see like her check ins like they're they're just so,
they're lame. She doesn't actually talk with anybody. And this
isn't again to disparage like what my girlfriend's doing. It's
just seeing what my how my girl, my girlfriend's experience
(35:41):
has been firsthand, has really opened my eyes do a
lot of things too. Yeah, it's just automatic.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
M hmm.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
It's like Oprah. You get a drug, you get a drug,
You get a drug, right, it gets a drug.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
And then you're like, well, why am I not honest?
Do I need to take it too? I mean everyone's
taking it, do you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
I can't tell you how often, Oh my god, I
have clients that are on GLP ones and I have
clients that aren't on GOLP ones, and I can't tell
you how often and this is this usually happens early
on when I'm working with a new client. Yep, the
comparison syndrome. Oh yeah, sharing down the street is losing
a bunch of weight and she's on a GLP one
and I know I shouldn't compare myself to her, but
(36:18):
I can't help but do it, right, Yeah, you feel
like I need to do it too. This is a
conversation I'm having all the fucking time, Beth. Yep, we're human.
We're going to compare ourselves to others. We can say
it un till we're blue in the head or whatever
you want to fucking say it, right, Yeah, run out
of breath. But at the end of the day, the
comparison is a very real thing. If everybody else is
(36:40):
doing it, you're gonna feel like you're left out, like
you're missing out at the end of the day. It's
that fomo's human nature. Yeah, And that's why market That's
why influencers market them, because that's that's powerful, powerful fucking marketing.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
And also the influencer is marketing them, they look at
them and their disorders.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, there are walking.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
So many influencers and we know this right because we're
in here. We we're doing it. We know what it's like,
we know what it takes to get really lean, we
know what it takes to stay really lean, and we
can spot this bullshit from.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
A mile away yep.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
And we just fit fit influencers marketing them. And it's
just it's just really disgusting. Yeah, it is disgusting for
that discount code. It's it's gross. Like if we, if
we truly care about people, we will stop promoting drugs
as coaches and influencers.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
That's the thing that's like, that is so fu that's
stepping out of your scope. Why are you talking about drugs?
Speaker 4 (37:37):
There are supplements, these aren't. It's not like we're talking
about creatine or roteine here.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
What do you what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (37:43):
I'm talking about drugs that literally change your body and
change your.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Hormone yep, exactly, yep.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Ah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
I don't know either, Matt.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
But I don't know what the answer is. We just
keep talking about it.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
The thing is, we just keep creating awareness and just
spreading the good word.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
People are going to do dumb things. It's just what
we do, and we're here to support you when you
figure that out. Yeah, I'm here to support you either way.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
But right we are. We are, but we want you
to do it in a way that's healthy for you.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Think about your health.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Okay, this is not just about becoming as skinny as
you can. You got to think about your health too.
That's actually number one, because without that you have nothing.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Yeah. I've got a literal program named after it. I
think you have something similar. My My group coaching program
for fitness is strength beyond the scale. Like, let's be
fucking strong bitches. Ye strong badass people.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Together, we are stronger and none of the paras have
sin in them, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Yeah, no, fuck me and thin. I don't want to
be a weak little bird. I don't want weak little birds,
you know. Yeah, thin is not in. I think strong
is in mm hmm. Aging like a badass and controlling
your outcome. That's fucking powerful.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
With the rise of these GLP one medications, the known
I made here, these drugs are being positioned as a
solution for weight gain in midlife women. But here's the risk.
If twenty percent of women in this demographic are already
struggling with binge eating and eating disorders and disordered eating.
What happens when we normalize using adrug a prescription drug
instead of addressing the underlying issues. Right, We've seen this
(39:30):
before quick fixes, and I'm not saying GLP one is
a quick fix, but in the context that they're being
abused for most people, they are because so many people
are getting onto these drugs from online pharmacies and online
telehealth companies without a real plan. They're just going to
take it for a few months, right, And that's not
(39:51):
these goal These drugs aren't supposed to be used for
just a fucking few months to help fifteen pounds to
get ready for the beach, or whatever it is, to
help you lose at last five to ten pounds. That's
not what they're for. These are forever drugs, Okay, So
if you're not taking these drugs with the intention of like,
this needs to be forever, and this is going to
(40:12):
help me make changes forever, then that's a big fucking problem.
Quick mixes have been marketed towards vulnerable groups for so long. Right,
it was diet pills in the nineties, detox t's in
the two thousands, appetite suppressants, right, GLP ones, I'm sorry
but they are just becoming the latest version of that. Yeah,
(40:32):
because because the way they're being a market and abused
and not to mention.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Their marketing to metopausal women right, who are also at
risk for osteoporosis, sarcopenia, bone loss, and muscle loss. So
these drugs are actually escalating that if you are not
focusing on string training and getting adequate protein.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
And that's very important that a lot of people in
their forties and fifties.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
You're afraid to get one of the fucking gym, right,
you better be afraid of falling because you're going to
break bones. If you're on a GLP one, you're losing
weight because you're probably losing muscle and bone if you
are not string training and getting addequate protein and.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
LP ones there, they literally make your appetite go away
for most people.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Right, So I have clients they have to dieting, yes,
any any extreme diet, no matter if it's a GOLP
one or not. If you are not focusing on strength
training and protein, you will lose bone and muscle. And
that's why we we no matter if you're on a
GLP one, are not always stressed those things.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Yes, because those are risks.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Yep, for sure. Not eating enough calories leads to vitamin
micronutrient deficiencies right or hormonal health decrease muscle mass. There's
some research showing that forty percent of weight loss on
GLP ones are from lean lean lean muscle mass, lean
body mass. So that's our muscle mass and bones, and
(41:53):
the correlation there is that's because the people aren't eating
enough food and strength training. It's not strength training and
eating enough food is not an option. It's not optional.
It's a fucking if you want, if you care about
your health, and if you want long term results, it's
fucking mandatory. Yeah, it's not if or either or. And
I think there was a wasn't there an ad not
too long ago? I think you may might have made
(42:13):
a post about it about skip the gym, take a gym.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Yeah, that's from Willow Health, from fucking Willehealth too.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
Of course it won't.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
But they're they're so fucking tomsic. I'm telling you, yeah,
skip the gym. No, you don't need the gym. Are
you fucking out of your mind?
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Like this? This is what's making me crazy? Matt?
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah, And legitimately I'm going postal. Admittedly, I'm losing my
shit online, and I believe it for a legit reason.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
When we know, single handily one of the best things
that menopausal women can do, perimenopausal women or just women
in general, to prepare themselves to fucking crush it through
their menopause years, to have as much muscle as possible
and be as strong as possible. And here we have
a telehealth company saying you don't need exercises, take a
(42:57):
fucking GLP one. Yeah, that's fucked up. That's diet culture.
That's not about your health. When is it going to
become about your health?
Speaker 1 (43:06):
And this is why we need to get these pharmaceuticals
off the internet as being marketed.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
I agree they should. You shouldn't we should?
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Where do we go? Where do we go? Who do
we report to?
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Right?
Speaker 1 (43:20):
How do we get this shit handled? Because it's out
of control? You know what I'm saying. I don't even
know where to start.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Mm hmm neither do I. Like, we have questions, but
we don't know the answers to them. We'll keep asking
the question and we'll keep.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Now if you know, like, where could we go to
start a fucking revolution about getting pharmaceutical ads off the interwebs.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
I guess. I mean it goes comes down to our politicians, right,
we have.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
To I guess you're right for fuck's sakes and aspect.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
So we have to let our politicians know whether you're
left to right. This isn't a left to right thing, right,
but this is how we get changed to be made.
And the problem is the pharmaceutical industry lobbies so hard
billions of dollars every year to not have policies in
place because because of our capitalist society. So it's it's profit.
(44:08):
It's all about profit, right, So we'll have to talk
with like Jessica Nurick or something about this, you know, Yeah,
it definitely starts with policies and writing your your congressman,
writing your local representatives, your senators. Yeah, that this is
an issue and you want to see something done. Protests
doing what we're doing, raising awareness. That's as far as
(44:28):
I know, like some of the best things you can do.
But maybe our listeners have some better advice for us too.
Who knows. We have questions. We don't know, we don't
have a lot of answers to them, but we have questions.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
I just know that something needs to change, yes, before
it gets really scary. And I mean I think we're there,
to be honest, I think we're we're tipping the iceberg.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I agree. Oh man, Influencers Commissions
GLP ones.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Oh my, that's a title, is it?
Speaker 4 (45:02):
Influencers Commissions DLP ones? Oh mind, there's the episode title.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Don't forget it, Matt.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
If somebody has an incentive to make money off of
what they're selling, you like, don't you think they're a
little bit biased? What do they What does this person
have to have to gain by by telling me about
this product, by telling me about this experiment, by telling
me whatever they're doing.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Yeah, this is.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
Incentivises over selling to people that don't medically qualify and
to people that don't need them. We've seen it with detox, Tease, Appetite,
the presants, hCG drops, Right, We've seen it with all
these things over the past. It's just packaged up differently now.
That's all it is anyway, So Nerdle, we're back to
back to school. Seasons are changing new season of life
for so many people right now.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
I guess I gotta be honest. It's getting back to
school rikers back in school, what three weeks? This is
his third week back in school now, but this holiday
really fucked my week up. I feel like it's busy
time of year. Everybody's pivoting. Everybody's getting back and finding
a new routine essentially, or getting back to.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
His first day was yesterday. Yeah, so yeah, it's like,
oh fuck, new gym hour. You know, I gotta reconfigure
my meeting times. It's like, okay, you know, you know
the drill, Like everyone's surprised when it happened suddenly, right,
I've been prepared for this, actually, because I've been I
was in chaos for two weeks, and I lived my
(46:25):
life regimented for so long that it's like, okay, I
could do this. Pick up yesterday was at noon. It
was like half day, so I went to go pick
him up. I had to leave my team meeting early,
and then of course he wanted to stay because he's
now like the oldest. It went well for him, and
he's got like his four friends that were in the
(46:47):
middle school are now in the upper school, and so
he's the almost fourteen year old to the twelve and
thirteen year olds.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
So he's like got his little new group, right.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yeah, So yeah, I went to go pick him up
and one of his best friend's mother was there. She
has another son that's still there, and Milo's in high school.
Was his first day yesterday, so she's like, hey, Beth,
do you want to leave Johnny here and I will
go take him and we'll pick up mylo and surprise him.
And so I'm like, okay, I didn't bring Johnny lunch
(47:18):
because I was going to take him home and make lunch.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
I'm like, john I said, can you go get me
a subway? I'm like, ah, so I.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Had to leave there, go get a subway, bring it back,
and what you know, It's just like consistent movement where
I'm just like NonStop. But when he got when he
got home, I think I made a story about this.
I said, how was Milo's first day? And he said, well,
they told him not to go to the bathrooms because
they smoke and do drugs in there. I was like, okay,
fucking yes, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
First day of school while you're not going to that school.
Check I'm kidding. I'm like, I was like, well, you
know that's what happens. It's true.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
I mean, we had a smoking section outside in high
school not and we weren't.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
Oh yeah, what a different time to be alive. That's
why I know it was.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
You know, we had a smoke in action outside. That's
when we weren't vaping in the bathrooms. There was no
such thing as a bait.
Speaker 4 (48:05):
Yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
That's what they fucking do.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
Yeah, exactly, Molly crue.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Yeah, lots of pivoting. That pivoting.
Speaker 4 (48:15):
I'm pivoting pretty pretty hard right now. The biggest adjustment
for me is definitely my day to day Like summertime
I didn't like for me, you know, I taking records school.
It's such a big thing for me because it takes
so much time out of my day. But yeah, golf
is new for us this year too, so I didn't
have I didn't know what to expect with that, and
golf is taking up a lot of time. He had
(48:37):
a meet, a golf meet last week, and we didn't
get home until nine o'clock at night. We had left
our house at seven o'clock in the morning, so we
have to leave leave my house to get him to
school by eight. So we leave at seven o'clock and
then on those days, those longer days, I just work
in the town that he goes to school at, or
the nearest by town coffee shops and do calls and
things like that. But then golf is adding in another
(48:59):
dimension that because he gets out of school at three,
But then golf practice doesn't normally start till four or
four thirty. So I go and pick him up from school,
driving back into town, We'll get a snack or get
get us something quick, a quick bite to eat, spend
a little bit together, and then I'll run him back
to the golf course to practice, and then I'll try
to squeeze I squeeze in like my workout or my
run or something. So my entire routine has definitely been
(49:22):
thrown through a loop this first couple of weeks of
practice in school. So I'm adjusting to that and I'm
getting there. It just takes time, you know, it does.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
I'm realired.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
Yeah I'm tired.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
You get tired.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
But this isn't like something that we need to start over, right,
We just pivot changed essentially, Our foundations haven't changed, maybe
just when we're doing them or changing, and we just
need to be a little bit more prepared, a little
bit more dialed in instead of hitting that full blown
reset button.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
Yeah, And it really does come down to our our habits,
our our daily our daily things. So this is kind
of I like September as a good way to either refocus.
I know I've spins this month and myself is included
in this, to refocus and get dialed back into our
foundational stuff, get eighty percent consistent or with whatever you're doing,
(50:10):
go from there.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:12):
I wanted to mention too. This kind of showed itself
with my run this last weekend I had to do.
I was supposed to do a nineteen mile run this
past weekend. I haven't. I didn't mention on my social
media because I've been taking a few days off social media.
But I didn't complete my nineteen mile run over the weekend.
Best Oh really? Yeah? I did fifteen and a half. Okay, well,
(50:34):
so typically my long run days are Sundays, but then
this last Sunday I went, I was going. I went
golfing with Briker, my brother, and my nephew, and we
did eighteen So that was going to take up all
my time right there during my normal run time. So right,
I'll just run on Saturday instead. Cool. That meant I
was going to be running four days in a row
instead of having Saturday as a rest day for me.
So I was running four days in a row. So
(50:56):
I was already and my legs were already fatigued, especially
from coming from Katata. And then Saturday morning came around
and sarah son wanted to go to the zoo, and
Sarah invited me to go to the zoo with them.
I was like, yeah, absolutely, I want to. I want
to do both, right, So, and I was in a
dilemmam like do I go to go to the zoo
and spend some quality time with Sarah and her son
and Emma, or do I stick to my run and
(51:19):
stick to my plan. Well, It's like it doesn't need
to have to be either, or it can be both.
So I went to the zoo and then I came home,
had some food, and then I went on my run.
So I ran by two o'clock in the afternoon, right
so later in the day, and I was already struggling
with getting mentally prepared for that run. Yeah I was,
and I was running on tired legs. So these are
I mean, in a way, these are kind of excuses, Okay,
(51:41):
I could have. I truthfully could have completed the nineteen
fucking miles. But if I'm being completely honest, Beth, I
was just done with it. Yeah. Fifteen, I'm like, I'm turning.
I'm turning my happy ass back to my car. This
is good enough for me right now. Okay. He sometimes
like that, and that's that is the first time, and
that's okay. Since I've been training this year that I've
(52:02):
cut myself short on a run one time out of
the one hundred that I've done this year, hundreds that
I've done. I don't know how many runs I've done.
I've ran seven hundred miles this year. So I cut
myself three and a half miles short. I've done seven
hundred this year. That's okay, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (52:21):
So and then I signed up for I signed up
for twenty five K, so I'm doing a twenty five
k next weekend. So that was also I with that
in mind, I was like, because I signed up for
that last Friday, So I was like, you know what,
I don't need to do this full nineteen miles because
I have this race coming up. I'm starting a dload
and taper for these next two weeks going into that race.
Because the race is going to be two Sundays from now,
(52:44):
so it's a Sunday, the fourteenth, I'm doing a twenty
five k. They'll be my longest event, my longest race yet.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Twenty five k. What is that?
Speaker 4 (52:50):
It's about fifteen and a half miles, Okay, yeah, and
it's a trail run, so I'm using that as a
training run. I think my regular run would have been
twenty miles that day, but I'm doing fifteen and a half.
I'm calling you as a training run, So I'm just
kind of preparing myself for that right now.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
Ok nice?
Speaker 4 (53:07):
So yeah, I'm looking forward to that. That'll be fun.
I'm using that as a way to practice. So I'm
using that as a way to practice race day, my paces,
my fueling strategies and everything like that. I'm not going
out there to crush it, to try to win anything,
to set prs. I'm just going out there to practice.
So it's gonna be a good training run for me.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
Good.
Speaker 4 (53:27):
I did set a one mile pr this morning. Did
you on my my speed on my speed workout? Six
minutes and fifty seven seconds?
Speaker 1 (53:34):
Damn? Nice?
Speaker 4 (53:36):
Off two seconds off of my last mile time that
I yeah, I'd set a pr on my birthday July fourth,
but yeah, I had mile repeats today, So on my
on my on my second miles, like I'm gonna my
pace was supposed to be seven oh five, but it's
a it's a plus or minus ten ten seconds for
my range. Yep, I crushed it. I'm up to six
fifty five or six to fifty seven. So felt good.
(53:57):
Oh yeah, felt good. That's awesome. Sure, right, So we
just released new workouts in the Patreon, a new challenge
for the month of September. Amy made a funny comment
in the Facebook group. She said, no, no push up.
I saw that. Yes, I'm like, oh, don't you worry.
They're coming. They're going to be coming back in a
month or two. That's for our home workout folks, there's
(54:18):
always in there. We put a dumbbell bench press variation
in there this month instead. Yeah, we just did the
birthday promo. I think people were loving that. Birthday Promo's over,
sorry everybody, but you can still support our Patreon podcast
for five bucks a month. My traditional support joined the
joined the Patreon. New workouts just dropped for both home
(54:38):
and the Gym and cher Nutrition just had their birthday too,
they did. We were promoting. My clients have been loving
the Serenity and Flow gummy combo. Yeah, I've been getting
such good feedback from my clients about that combo Serenity
and Flow. Serenity has been helping my clients sleep better.
Flo is helping them with their workouts, they run workouts
(55:00):
and even with work like with meetings and things like that.
My client has been noticing improvement with the focus helping
or the flow helping them with their focus. Yeah, which
is really cool. I'd love, love, love to hear this
feedback from, you know, from my clients who I have
a really close relationship with, and how with how helpful
it is for them. Yeah, I know you hear a
lot of the same from from your clients, from your
(55:22):
followers and things like oh yeah, yeah, what are you
loving right now of the cured products?
Speaker 1 (55:28):
I use the Serenity gummies at night. Those are my.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
Chances I've switched from Flow to Ghost and Serenity Gummies
are just always a go to for me.
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We love it. Okay, Well, it's a good wrapping up point,
(56:08):
I think. Yeah, all right, everybody, let us know what
you think of this episode. We want to know what
you're thinking. We want to know what you're struggling with.
We want to know what your thoughts are on everything
we talked about with GLP ones and how they're targeting people.
Let's keep the conversation going outside of just myself and Beth.
We want to for you, but because you're all what
matters here?
Speaker 1 (56:27):
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Speaker 1 (01:42):
I'm burnt out.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know if that's the word actually,
because burnt out seems.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah. I need a I need silence, I need no one.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
A couple of weeks of NonStop being around people, social interactions.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
And I'm such an introvert extrovert and I feel like that,
like as amazing as it was, I need to like
recharge for like a thirty days. Like I feel like
I need to hide in my closet and not talk
to anybody, like Mike can't even talk to me, and like,
just don't talk to me right now, like I will go.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I've had this tension headache for like four days.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yeah, yeah, we kind of we talked about this before
and we just talked about it a couple of weeks
ago too. How you were, you know, preemptively saying no
to things and.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I knew this was going to happen, right, And I.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Think we even talked about this with doctor Joshua Smith
too when we were talking with him about ADHD and
chronic illnesses and things like that. So yeah, very real.
I mean, you've reached you did the thing, So congratulations.
Last time when we talked on this podcast, you hadn't
done it yet.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Oh the photo shoot, Yeah he did.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
It, the big payoff, the big.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Payloaf, he finished. Yeah, it feels.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Like I'm like, oh, yeah, that happened, right.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
It's it's bizarre. It's like, oh wow, we're done.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
What a cool experience. How it went really really really well,
really really really well.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
It was so fun.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
The photographer was great.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Obviously we don't have any photos, right, which is so
many people like, can we see the photos? When let
me see the photos, Like this wasn't taken with an iPhone.
We have to get them edited and everything. Like photographers
she like worked all weekend, it's a holiday. She's like, well,
you know, you might get something in two weeks. That's
what we're looking at.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
That's a really quick turnaround time for photography.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, and that's just for us to choose ones we like.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
That's not even finished editing. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, it
takes a while.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Everyone who took hundreds of pictures, she has to cull
those down and then photography is no joke. People think
it's just taking pictures, but no, no, I.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Mean lighting, and there's there's all the kinds of setup
you know.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yep, it's funny when I saw that on your story
about somebody's not we're just out not out there doing
this with an iPhone. It'd be funny to imagine just
you doing all this work work, right, and then to.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Get photos of an iPhone.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yeah, yeah, to get instant photos. You know.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, it's not how it works, guys. I'm just as
anxious as you, if not more. Okay, right, right, fucking
a how cool it is?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I mean, I feel so accomplished and like all the
other women, Peggy sixty one, Amy fifty six, coach Kelly
who's forty. She just turned forty nine. I think she
just had a birthday. It's like, God, damn it, we
all did the thing. We were all consistent, we all
like cheered each other on, and I want to bring
hope to others and just let them realize that they're
(04:32):
not fucking broken. You really just have to make the
choice to do it or not and get out of
your own fucking way. It really comes down to that.
There's really no other like stump your fucking excuses, focus
on what you can control and just do it. It's
either you want it or you don't. You're in it
or you're not. Stop half assing, you know it's it's
a half assing. Yeah, you got a full asset.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
That's just such a common thing is we have this
feeling that we're doing everything we can, that we're doing
all the right things. But when we start looking at
it objectively via like tracking calories or tracking our workouts,
tracking how we're feeling, that's a really big game changer
for her for like, oh shit, I feel like I
was doing everything right, but this shows me quite clearly
(05:16):
that I was not.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, I know people think that I just made a
video today about it takes forever to lose fats, Like, yeah,
because you're not consistent. You're in this diet mindset. You're
consistently thinking about it, but you're never consistent with it. Right,
So in your mind, you're like, you've been doing this
for a fucking year. Yeah, you've been in the diet
mindset for the year. But if you gave yourself a
commitment of let's say eight to twelve weeks, and you
(05:41):
just did that thing for that specific amount of time,
and you fucking did it every day, imagine what you
would see, what kind of progress you would see. But
you don't give yourself that consistency.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Yeah, I agree. So so many people are living in
that diet mindset. Yeah, they're mentally dieting, even if they
may not be physically dieting. That's the right. Yes, Even
when we're not trying to lose fat, we're still mentally dieting.
We're still good foods, bad foods. We're still struggling with
the food noise, we're still second guessing ourselves, having the
all or nothing thinking, all these things that are associated
(06:13):
with dieting. We're still doing them even if we're not
trying to necessarily lose fat. And then when they do,
you know, try to go into a fat loss phase,
these things come front and center because I didn't address them,
y right, Yeah, So then that's going to exacerbate things.
It's just going to prolong the time that they're in
the deficits because they're constantly starting over, they're constantly beating them. Yeah. Up,
(06:35):
they're restricting, they're doing all these things because they're they're
the diet mindset. I agree, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, and then you're mentally fatigued, do you know, and
then you try to start another thing and you're like
I can't do it, yeah, because you've been mentally trying
to do this for a long time.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
So yeah, yeah, I'm sure our listeners many of them
are probably like, yeah, mentally dieting. Wow, that's that's the thing. Thing.
It's a fucking thing, right, That's that's a big part
of what we do in our program, getting people to
stop mentally dieting.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
It's like you're consistently like thinking about food, think about
what you should not eat, what you should eat, how
much you should eat, where are you gonna go. It's
like you're you're mentally like in your head about it
all the fucking time. And that's not necessarily food noise. Okay,
I feel like food noise someone just like thought of
it one day and now like everybody's got food noise.
When it really comes down to there's different levels, there's
(07:27):
different Think about someone obese with food noise. Their food
noise is so bad that that's why they're in that
body that they're in along with other things.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Right, Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Food nose is food nos a it's always.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
It's a multifaceted levels.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
It is multifaceted, it's complex. You can't just like food
noise as a blanket statement doesn't really help that much
because and a lot of the problems with quote unquote
food noise first and foremost, because it's not a medical term.
It's a newer term in the last few years, but
it's just been really prevalent in these past few years
with the rise of GLP ones, because that's been a
(08:06):
thing that GLP ones have been shown to do, right,
is help people with food noise. But the thing is
with food noise is much of the time food noise
is because they're mentally dieting. They're just chronically dieting. They're
chronic dieters. Maybe you're forty fifty years old and you've
been you tried to lose weight, you were put on
weight watchers when you were twelve years old. That's going
to have long term impacts on your on your mental health,
(08:28):
on your physical health, and your weight, you know. And
so then they're dieting for decades, decades, decades. That is
the food noise.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, constantly trying to lose.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Weight, constantly trying to shrink our body, constantly trying to
like doing detoxes and appetite suppressants, whatever's out there, right, Yeah,
that's all. Yeah, and that's creating this food noise dilemma
that people are struggling with.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
And then along with people not understanding that it's normal
to be hungry, right, like, yeah, like you can't call
hunger food noise. We're going to think about our next meal,
that is normal. Okay, You're where hunger.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Into food noise is if you are hungry and you
just don't eat and you starve yourself, right, then you're
going to start thinking about food more. Right, But you know,
just being hungry isn't a bad thing.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
No, We're supposed to be hungry at specific times of
the day. Do you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
We're supposed to be thinking about food sometimes. It's fucking normal.
We got to stop trying not to be normal. You
don't need to microdose a fucking GLP want to get
rid of your food noise. First of all, it's not
even indicated for that. So when I hear that, it's like,
it makes me fucking want to scream. It's like, already
someone' sin that's thinking that's going to help their food noise.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Well, why are you looking? Why you think you have
food noise?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Is it because you're consistently trying to be at a
body weight that is hard to maintain?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Do you know what I'm saying? Like, there's so many
different things you need to fucking think about.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yeah, Like if you're a thin person, if you're a
fit person and you're struggling with food noise, Like, we
get it right. But that's also where therapy comes into play.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Cognitive behavioral therapy DBT practicing mindful eating, which has been
proven to help with that quote unquote food noise. Right,
you got to stop dieting. You got to stop trying
to maintain a physique that is unsustainable. We're doing this
to ourselves. Yeah, so many people are doing this to themselves.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
My food noise has dramatically decreased just going back.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I mean, oh yeah, I'll talk about like, you know,
maybe people want to know like what I ate right
after and like what my experience was with food.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, so we did get it.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
We got a pizza after our photo shoot and I
had two slices of pizza and then you know, what's
I gotta say. The craziest thing about hopping on getting
you know, normal food and all that stuff is that
it wasn't as exciting as I thought it would be.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
We got cheese, it's and everything.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I didn't even really want any I was like, this
is so fucking weird, Like I the only thing I
really wanted was like fucking toast. I had like four
or five pieces of sour doat toast and butter, and
then after that, I was like that made me full,
and I'm like I just I hate this feeling of
being this full. My digestion was all fucked up, like
because I had we had some gummies on that day.
Of the shoot we had salt were were dehydrated, like
(11:20):
there was a whole protocol, so that made my stomach
all fucked up. And then adding more volume, I guess
you could say, and things like that. It just my
digestion was kind of whacked for a few days and
I felt kind of sick nauseous almost. It was very bizarre.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I didn't really have cravings.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I thought I'd be like out of control almost because
like everything sounded so good before, like in the midst
of the diet, but when it was over and it
was all in front of me, I was just like, yeah,
I don't know, Like it just wasn't appealing.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
It was fucking crazy.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Yeah, that's great observation. And yeah, I think too A
lot of that is because of how you approached your
your prep you fed los Yeah, your body composition phase.
You went into it in a in a healthy way. Yeah,
who didn't. You weren't saying like I can't have this,
I can't have that. If you wanted something, you found
a way to either make it work fit in or
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you made a swap, made an alternative for a lower
calorie swap or something like that. But then you were
also you were like telling yourself, this is this is
not forever. I'm doing this for x X weeks, twelve weeks,
whatever it was. Yeah, I'm getting the fuck out. This
food's always going to be there. Right. That's one thing
that I said to you when we were in Maine
last week. I don't can't remember what it was, but
(12:35):
it was fair food or something. Right, Oh, you mean
you're not having any fair food? I would set it jokingly. Right,
You're like, no, it's like I can have it another time.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
That's healthy, you know, And I's why you haven't didn't
have that quote unquote rebound wanting to binge and overeating
and just eating everything inside being revenue not at all.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
In fact, I wanted my normal food. So I was
like back to like what I was eating, like my pancakes.
And I also noticed that from what I was eating,
like and starting to eat other things, it.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Didn't make me feel good. I was like, okay, like
this is just not your.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Body does Your body does adapt and adjust to Yeah.
So so for somebody, we could put this in a
way for somebody that thinks they're like addicted to sugar
or carbs or something like that, right, Like, I promise
you if you do abstain from those things or how
or fix that relationship with it, it's going to get better. Yeah,
(13:27):
it's going to get better. You know, your body craves
what you give it.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Essentially, my body's craving that the more veggies and the
fruits and the rice and potatoes and not more of
the gummies. Like it's like, really, it's really eye opening, honestly.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Yeah, oh yeah, I love it. But you crushed it.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
We did it.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
We did the thing. Did you have now?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Thanks? We're in the reverse, Yeah, we are reversing.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
We talk about that for a few minutes because yeah,
I think that's been controversial, right, reversing, and that's something
we say, like for the general public, you don't have
the reverse, right, So can you explain to me why
you're let's let's first, what does reverse look like for you?
And why are you doing it?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Well?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
First off, I think because we were in it for
sixteen weeks and right now, like I'm let's say, I'm
trying to count how much I'm down. I'm almost down
twenty pounds. Okay, Okay, So coach Kelly didn't really explain
it to me. This is, but this is what I'm thinking.
And she's like, she knows that a lot of people
are not fans of rebursing, and you know, most people
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just go right to maintenance. But like I was just saying,
we were eating specific foods. We don't want to add
a bunch of things and have my digestion be all
fucking crazy, right, So there's that the digestion part, and
there's also finding the new maintenance. I may have a
new maintenance now, and I don't want to put on
a bunch of body fat. I want to just keep
it slowly, Let's see where this goes. And so the
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scale is not even not going to go down, and
it's not going to go up. So we're just going
to see where we could push the calories, I guess,
but we're going to stay at one specific place for
it's actually it's not that bad. I feel like I'm
not going to be in this very long, probably going
to be a month, and that's it, honestly, Because my
off workout days, I think I have an extra one
hundred and forty calories, and then on my workout days,
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I have an extra like two hundred and fifty, and
then I get a free meal a week, which is
like a Friday night like go out to dinner type thing,
no tracking whatever, and then my steps are ten to
twelve thousand on workout days and twelve to fifteen on
non workout days, So those are dramatically decreased. Yes, so yeah,
now it's like I have no pressure of getting a
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million steps right, and the only thing that's really changing
colork wise is my carbohydrate intake. That's all the calories
that are changing the facts, and the protein is the same.
It's just we're increasing carbs.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
That's really the one variable that gets manipulated right when
we're in when we're in a weight loss phase fat
fat loss phase, I should say, especially when you're taking
the macro approach, it's the carbs that you manipulate, yeah,
from your protein or your fast.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, because you never want to cut the protein and
you don't want to cut the fat because you need
a specific amount a day.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. With reverse dieting, that's
something that I like, just for the mental side.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Of things, right, that's it too. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yeah, so you're doing it for the mental side, but.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Also mental digestion.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
More food to your system digestion so you can feel good.
It's not because your metabolism's broken.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Like Noah, we're not trying to repair my but there's
no such thing as repairing your metabolism or or any
of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Has nothing to do with that, Okay, in.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
The context that reverse diting is so frequently used.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
For one, yeah, it's it's literally what it is.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
You're adding more calories instead of taking away your reversing
the diet now that.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
You're reverse dieting nerdle, Does this change your stance on
reverse dieting and all? Or are you not your stance?
I was never against it, right, just thought we're like
your opinion on it, like how it's used or anything.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Now I think in the right demographic, sure, people that
are have gotten very very lean like where I'm at
and want to go back to maintenance.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
It's a great place.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Like if you're just a general population, you've reached your
goal body weight and you just want to head to maintenance,
that's fine, But this is like a whole different ball.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Game for sure. I love that answer. Good answer, thanks, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I know people are like, oh, let's also people are
the asking of like, am I afraid of like bulking,
Like I asked, someone's like, you're gonna be bulking, Like
I'm like, what do you What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Like, you're not a bodybuilder, You're not cutting in bulking,
You're not.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
People don't understand and don't you don't understand maintenance. And
this is where everybody struggles is because you get to
your spot where you want to be and you don't
know how to maintain it. And that's why you ask
me consistently, what am I going to do whant to
gain all the weight back? I'm not because I know
how to maintain. Okay, that this is your problem. You
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need to learn how to maintain your weight. And that's
why we're going to this reverse and then I'm going
to know where my maintenance is. It's like, you need
to know these numbers. A lot of you don't even
know because you're you get there way back right.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Yeah, obviously we'll get into that maintenance weight, but you
won't get all the weight.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Backround, right, I'm not going to go back to where
it was.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Last right, Yeah, yeah for sure, But.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
That's what people are thinking.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Yeah, people don't know that. I mean, maintenance is half
more than half of the fucking battle when it comes
to weight loss, and I agree, people don't know how
to maintain. They get they get their goal, they reached
their goal, and it's like, okay, diet's over.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Now what yeah, back, go back to my bullshit.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Yeah, and then oh it didn't work. Imagine that because well, yeah,
because you didn't continue doing the things that you did
to get now. So that's why nothing is changing too
drastically for you. Right. The way you maintain your results
is the way you got your results. You keep doing
the thing. I saw a thread on Threads this morning
and I was like, this is just really dumb. Somebody
(18:50):
was like, I'm just going to pull it up here
really quickly.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
I didn't grand my gears, but I was like, this
just doesn't make any sense. They said, doing endless amounts
of cardio is not sustainable and you will gain it
back quickly. And so I'm like, okay, I'm gonna take it.
I take issue with this. So I said, uch, weird,
I run thirty plus miles a week, what exactly am
I supposed to be gaining back my cardiovascular health and endurance?
And they're like, this post isn't directed to runners. If
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you enjoy running that much, your weight is likely not
an issue. I've gained and lost weight several times, and
strength training has been effective for me maintaining weight loss.
Lots of cardio works if you enjoy it, but most
do it for quick results and gain back the weight
even quicker once they stop. And I said, well, you
didn't specify that in your post. Same logic would apply
to strength training too, though, right, you have to keep
doing it. The real problem here is that neither cardio
(19:37):
nor strength training are supposed to be for weight loss
for overall health and longetic Yeah, p Trician is the
driver of weight loss, and they blocked me after that.
I was like, why did I get blocked for that?
Because I was not an asshole whatsoever. But you just
can't have different opinions online.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
But yeah, you want to keep the results, you got
to keep doing the thing that got you the results.
That's why crash dieting, chronic dieting, twelve hundred calorie diets,
cutting out carbs, detoxes don't work long term for people.
And newsflash, GLP ones are the same fucking thing. By
the way, you have to stay on them to keep
the results for most people. The research is very very.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I've heard way too many people say they're going to
start those to jump start. It's like, wait a second, how.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
About you jumpstart your fucking foundational shit for like, what
are you doing? You jump start by maybe repairing your
relationship with food, fueling your body with good amount of calories, protein, fiber, micronutrients,
daily movements, stress management. That's a good way to jump
start any journey right there.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
That's not a click away, man.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
That's not a click that's not a discount cody.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
That's not a link in bio away.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Okay, that's not a fifty percent commission for the person
selling me this this drug.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I became unhinged yesterday. Unhinged I saw that Willow. That
Willow is probably the most talk telehealth.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
They consistently market to thin women and young girls, mind you.
And it's like the one with the cake yesterday that
I saw girls you don't need to be obese to
not women, they said, girls, okay, or not not even
ladies right right, girls.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
It's very clear who they're targeting there, because you don't
call women girls, Like I'm a fifty.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Year old woman, would you call me a fifty two
year old girl. Right, No, that fucking sent me. I
literally went postal. I am so passionate about this because
I was this time, Matt before we started pressing record
that they trigger me so bad because I see them everywhere.
They add people taking a GLP one do not trigger me.
It's it's the consistent ads in my face. Okay to
(21:46):
thin women. Right, this is a pharmaceutical and it's not
a fucking supplement, and we're treating it like it's such supplement.
And this has side effects and there are for a
specific demographic. They're not for me. They're not for your
daughter who's fucking fourteen, who's scrolling the internet. Okay, They're
not for someone that's just finished a bodybuilding show or
a bikini prep or who needs to lose ten pounds.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Okay, why are you marketing to me and young women? Stop?
Pharmaceuticals should not be marketed in general.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Okay, what the fuck we This needs to be regulated.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
If I was not in this position that I am
right now, having a healthy relationship with food, being in
a good place mentally with my body and everything I've
worked really fucking hard to get here, I would be
on that shit. And I feel for every person that
was a past me currently feeling the way I know
(22:44):
I would have felt, because it's very enticing, very enticing.
I could easily right now be like, you know what,
I'm just gonna do a GLP one so I can
just maintain this weight, or why not if I was
in a fucked up headplace. And that's what people are, right,
That's what people are doing, and it's making me absolutely
fucking insane. Not everyone needs to be on these medications,
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and it's being pushed as.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
If everyone should be on them. That's a fucking problem.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
That's a problem, and it's who is pushing them to right,
We don't. Right, your doctor talking to you about getting
on a GLP one is completely different than a fucking
wellness influencer that you follow online talking about GLP ones
and promoting them and yes and link in bio to
do your labs and all this shit. Completely different. That
(23:30):
is monetized, monetized drug use right there, They're becoming a
drug use whatever they call drug dealer of drug dealers
is what they are. They're making money off of your health.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yep, yep, exactly, that's what it is.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
There's the emotional impact, right, it reinforces like this DIA
culture that is so prevalent, and we've been doing such good,
such good, hard work to reverse. I was feeling really
good about the direction that DIA culture was headed. Social
media was headed with diaculture, you know, around the twenty
twenty and the couple of years after that, so like
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two thousand to twenty twenty through twenty twenty three probably,
but it's been it's really completely done to one eighty
now these last couple of years, and it's like skinny
tops back, Disordered eating is back being just glamorized, you know,
as health and wellness on unrealistic expectations, Body checking is back,
Selling our bodies is back, you know, all of the
(24:27):
shit is back. And it's really we're just reinforcing that
diet culture and body dissatisfaction and people of all ages,
but especially the younger demographic. And we we fucking know better,
that's the thing. Like, we know better because the people
that are doing these things now struggle have struggled with
these things their entire life too, So why the fuck
are you gonna perpetuate that cycle? We should be breaking
(24:47):
that cycle. Yeah, we have that power to break it,
but for one reason or another, we're not. Yeah, sustainable
health hasn't found in a prescription. If you don't, if
you don't medically need it, that's bullshit. It is harmful.
I did pull up some statistics about this too, if
you're interested about eating disorders and disordered eating and women,
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especially in young women, because this is where I see
this kind of going. About nine percent of the US
population will have an eating disorder in their lifetime. Nine percent.
Women aged twelve to thirty five are the highest at
risk group, and roughly one in five minute women will
experience an eating disorder by age forty. It's crazy. And
(25:34):
then there's even further than this, subclinical disordered eating. You know,
there's a difference between disordered eating and a clinically diagnosed
eating disorder, but disordered eating is chronic dieting, food restriction,
compulsive exercise. Right. That affects twenty to forty percent of
college aged women. That's a that's a lot, and I
would argue that that's numbers actually higher. Now probably maybe
(25:58):
I only feel like that because that's my who I
work with. I work with mostly women that have struggled
with disordered eating and are looking to repair their relationship
with food. So maybe I'm I'm just my blinded a
little bit or biased it a little bit there. But
you just look online and people that are promoting healthy
lifestyles and sustainable weight loss, like a lot of them
(26:18):
are just really just doing disordered eating shit.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
And oh yeah, oh yeah, all the orthorexia.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Yeah, orthorexia, that's clean.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
The obsession with clean eating.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Yeah, obsession with clean eating. Yeah. We have anarexia nervosa
which is about zero point nine percent of all women.
Bolimia nervosa is one point five percent of women. Binge
eating disorder is three point five percent of women. It's
just crazy, It's just crazy. Here's why this is such.
This is a conversation that needs to be continued to
(26:50):
be had about GLP ones exacerbating these disordered eating tendencies.
If you have a shitty relationship with food, it's it's
really a slippery slope. Eating disorders have the second highest
mortality rate of all mental illnesses after opioid usage. That's crazy. Yeah,
mortality for anorexia alone is five to ten percent. Five
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to ten percent of all people that are diagnosed with
anorexia die from it, and then we have increased risk
of anorexia two and completion of ending their life and
things like that. Right, So it's it's not a pretty
picture that's being painted with our checkered history, our fucked
up history with diet and exercise and disordered eating. The
(27:34):
fact that you can just go online and get a
GLP one with a discount code when you're not medically
approved for it, that's a big fucking problem. It's a
big fucking problem, and it's only going to continue to
get worse because of the lack of regulation, the lack
of things that are being done about these telemarketing, telehealth companies,
(27:55):
med spas, compounded pharmacies.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
It's not command well.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
It's not going to end well.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
It's not gonna end well.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
If your doctor says that you are not qualified to
take this and he does not recommend it for you,
why would you go to a telehealth company and get
the medication. I heard some people do that in my
comments section, and it didn't end well for them. Their
doctor is like, no, with your gastro intestinal issues, you
probably shouldn't take this drug. Why what does it do,
Matt It slows down your digestion, and of course what
happened to this woman. She got gastiophoresis and she ended
(28:24):
up in the er a few times, and she said
she should have listened to her doctor. So this is
the kind of shit that's happening. Okay, there's reasons why
your doctor says no mm hm. So if you're going
to fuck around and find out that's on you.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Yeah, when we've been trying to we've been shouting, you
know for years now, like hey, like yeah, only people
that really need these should be using them, exactly. And
that's a controversial thing to fucking say, Like it's crazy,
Like we're being gas lit exactly right, We're being gas
lit by saying, hey, there's nothing wrong with these drugs
for the right people, but not everybody needs to take them. Yeah,
(29:01):
we're the assholes.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
How dare us?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yes, exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
How dais we cut into the influencer's bottom bottom line
and take out code away from them, their commission from them,
how darras? Yes, this isn't just the United States problem.
This is a worldwide problem. The World Health Organization estimates
that seventy million people globally live with an eating disorder,
and of those seventy million people. Seventy percent of all
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cases are women, and eating disorders are most common in
adolescents in early child early adulthood, so between the ages
of twelve to twenty five. But there is some interesting
data too showing that eating disorders are actually on the
rise in midlife and menopausal women, right, which we know
are being really targeted with these drugs as well, because
(29:50):
you've listened to health and wellness influencers online. Menopausal women
are fucking broken. There's nothing they can do, so you
might as well hop on a GLP one, right.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
A large study, the National Comorbidity Survey, found that three
and a half percent of women aged forty to sixty
meat criteria for a clinical eating disorder. They're just not diagnosed,
and that subclinical disordered eating. Right, So the yo yo dieting,
chronic restriction, binge, restrict cycle, compulsive exercise is actually much higher.
It's up thirteen to twenty percent in this age group,
(30:21):
so it's increasing in the last decade, thanks right. A
twenty seventeen review in the Menopause journal Maturitaz found significant
increases in disordered eating symptoms during perimenopause and postmenopause, especially
binge eating and body image distress. And that makes sense.
(30:43):
Perimenopausal women and postmenopausal women, what's the messaging towards them online?
Cortisol face, menobelly inflammation, you're in flame, right, there's something
wrong with the way you fucking look. There's something wrong
with you. So of course, like that's going to incre
and that's going to increase in body dissatisfaction and disordered
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eating because now you think that you've got something like
this fucking problem, you've got your cortisol face, so you've
got to stay away from cortisol spiking whatever the fuck, right,
and there's that disordered eating habit being reinforced. Now. Yeah,
it's just it's not it's it's not good out. There's
there's not it's not a good good outlook, especially for
menopausal women. They're massive target right for wellness products, supplements, yeah,
(31:29):
anti aging programs, diet plans, and g LP ones. Yeah,
they're highly susceptible. These are women that have been that
started when they were little like girls, right, the teenagers
and things like that. They targeted for decades now that
there was always something wrong with them, and now the
latest thing is we'll just get you on GLP one
and it's going to fix everything for you. Yeah, and
(31:51):
again GLP one. We're not against them, but I.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Know, I don't know how many times I have to
say this and.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Say after every set.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
It fucking makes me crazy because it's like people are
not listening, fucking saying, man, God damn it. It really
makes me crazy how many times we have to repeat
ourselves and someone still misses the fucking plots.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
To the last few years, I would say telehealth companies
really took off because of COVID. Right prior to that,
the way to get drugs was from your doctor, okay,
and didn't get them approved from your doctor. Guess what
you did. You went to the black market and you
got them. It's kind of the same thing, except now
that there's no black market, it's a gray market, because
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that's what these compounding pharmacies, these telehealth companies are. It's
a gray It's like it's like getting steroids from a
me head at the gym and going out back behind
the gym and getting him out of his fucking trunk,
except now you're doing it online. That's really it. It's
the same fucking thing. Yeah, it's actually insane how normalized
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this has been.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
It really is.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Yeah, I think influencers should be ashamed of themselves, people
that are promoted that are that are profiting off of
GLP one usage. We shouldn't be profiting off of drugs,
especially not as coaches and influencers.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
People like doctors profit off prescriptions, and you're over there
giving your fucking discount code for your fucking DLP one.
I mean, are you fucking out of your mind?
Speaker 4 (33:22):
M right? The doctors are the problem, But not an
influencer with a discount code for GLP one with a
commission link. That's okay. Doctors, they they the doctors. They
want you fat. They are here to make a profit
off of you. But not that influencer that's sending you
to Americ Health. They have your best interest step mind.
(33:42):
They've never talked to you a day in their fucking life,
but they have your best inter step mind, and they
know exactly LP one. Let's get real with.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Ourselves here, people exactly.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
No, Yes, profiting off of your fucking health, that's what
it's called. They don't give a shit.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
I don't know. I don't know how to make this
more clear. Yeah, drugs are between you and your doctor.
These aren't something to be fucking around.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Man, my doctor won't give it to me.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Well, there's a reason for that, and.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
That's what I fucking hear all the time.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Well there's a fucking reason for that. Your doctor won't
give it to you. Oh my god, why why do
you think that is your doctor? Your doctor just hates you. No,
it's because you don't qualify. So you're gonna go. Mom
told me no, so I'm gonna go ask dad instead.
That's what it's given, right, Mom said, I can't go
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do that thing. I know Dad's gonna tell me yes,
because Dad's a pushover, so I'm gonna go ask him. Yeah,
that's what the online telehealth company is. It's pushover. They
don't say no to people. Who the fuck do they
say no to do? They don't even do full fucking
health screening to Really, they don't know your history. You
might get, if you're lucky, a ten minute consult with
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a doctor after you pay them a couple hundred dollars
to sign up for for their fucking h MLM or
whatever product they have. Ten minutes is gonna that that's
going to do you justice. They're going to understand your
full medical history and your lab work and everything in
ten minutes and ten minute consult with your doctor and
then once a month check in with an automated fucking system.
(35:19):
You can lie on your responses. Yeah, like, we know
how this shit works. We know how easy it is
to manipulate this shit. My girlfriend's on a GLP one.
I see like her check ins like they're they're just so,
they're lame. She doesn't actually talk with anybody. And this
isn't again to disparage like what my girlfriend's doing. It's
just seeing what my how my girl, my girlfriend's experience
(35:41):
has been firsthand, has really opened my eyes do a
lot of things too. Yeah, it's just automatic.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
M hmm.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
It's like Oprah. You get a drug, you get a drug,
You get a drug, right, it gets a drug.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
And then you're like, well, why am I not honest?
Do I need to take it too? I mean everyone's
taking it, do you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
I can't tell you how often, Oh my god, I
have clients that are on GLP ones and I have
clients that aren't on GOLP ones, and I can't tell
you how often and this is this usually happens early
on when I'm working with a new client. Yep, the
comparison syndrome. Oh yeah, sharing down the street is losing
a bunch of weight and she's on a GLP one
and I know I shouldn't compare myself to her, but
(36:18):
I can't help but do it, right, Yeah, you feel
like I need to do it too. This is a
conversation I'm having all the fucking time, Beth. Yep, we're human.
We're going to compare ourselves to others. We can say
it un till we're blue in the head or whatever
you want to fucking say it, right, Yeah, run out
of breath. But at the end of the day, the
comparison is a very real thing. If everybody else is
(36:40):
doing it, you're gonna feel like you're left out, like
you're missing out at the end of the day. It's
that fomo's human nature. Yeah, And that's why market That's
why influencers market them, because that's that's powerful, powerful fucking marketing.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
And also the influencer is marketing them, they look at
them and their disorders.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, there are walking.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
So many influencers and we know this right because we're
in here. We we're doing it. We know what it's like,
we know what it takes to get really lean, we
know what it takes to stay really lean, and we
can spot this bullshit from.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
A mile away yep.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
And we just fit fit influencers marketing them. And it's
just it's just really disgusting. Yeah, it is disgusting for
that discount code. It's it's gross. Like if we, if
we truly care about people, we will stop promoting drugs
as coaches and influencers.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
That's the thing that's like, that is so fu that's
stepping out of your scope. Why are you talking about drugs?
Speaker 4 (37:37):
There are supplements, these aren't. It's not like we're talking
about creatine or roteine here.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
What do you what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (37:43):
I'm talking about drugs that literally change your body and
change your.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Hormone yep, exactly, yep.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Ah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
I don't know either, Matt.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
But I don't know what the answer is. We just
keep talking about it.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
The thing is, we just keep creating awareness and just
spreading the good word.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
People are going to do dumb things. It's just what
we do, and we're here to support you when you
figure that out. Yeah, I'm here to support you either way.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
But right we are. We are, but we want you
to do it in a way that's healthy for you.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Think about your health.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Okay, this is not just about becoming as skinny as
you can. You got to think about your health too.
That's actually number one, because without that you have nothing.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Yeah. I've got a literal program named after it. I
think you have something similar. My My group coaching program
for fitness is strength beyond the scale. Like, let's be
fucking strong bitches. Ye strong badass people.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Together, we are stronger and none of the paras have
sin in them, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Yeah, no, fuck me and thin. I don't want to
be a weak little bird. I don't want weak little birds,
you know. Yeah, thin is not in. I think strong
is in mm hmm. Aging like a badass and controlling
your outcome. That's fucking powerful.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
With the rise of these GLP one medications, the known
I made here, these drugs are being positioned as a
solution for weight gain in midlife women. But here's the risk.
If twenty percent of women in this demographic are already
struggling with binge eating and eating disorders and disordered eating.
What happens when we normalize using adrug a prescription drug
instead of addressing the underlying issues. Right, We've seen this
(39:30):
before quick fixes, and I'm not saying GLP one is
a quick fix, but in the context that they're being
abused for most people, they are because so many people
are getting onto these drugs from online pharmacies and online
telehealth companies without a real plan. They're just going to
take it for a few months, right, And that's not
(39:51):
these goal These drugs aren't supposed to be used for
just a fucking few months to help fifteen pounds to
get ready for the beach, or whatever it is, to
help you lose at last five to ten pounds. That's
not what they're for. These are forever drugs, Okay, So
if you're not taking these drugs with the intention of like,
this needs to be forever, and this is going to
(40:12):
help me make changes forever, then that's a big fucking problem.
Quick mixes have been marketed towards vulnerable groups for so long. Right,
it was diet pills in the nineties, detox t's in
the two thousands, appetite suppressants, right, GLP ones, I'm sorry
but they are just becoming the latest version of that. Yeah,
(40:32):
because because the way they're being a market and abused
and not to mention.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Their marketing to metopausal women right, who are also at
risk for osteoporosis, sarcopenia, bone loss, and muscle loss. So
these drugs are actually escalating that if you are not
focusing on string training and getting adequate protein.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
And that's very important that a lot of people in
their forties and fifties.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
You're afraid to get one of the fucking gym, right,
you better be afraid of falling because you're going to
break bones. If you're on a GLP one, you're losing
weight because you're probably losing muscle and bone if you
are not string training and getting addequate protein and.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
LP ones there, they literally make your appetite go away
for most people.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Right, So I have clients they have to dieting, yes,
any any extreme diet, no matter if it's a GOLP
one or not. If you are not focusing on strength
training and protein, you will lose bone and muscle. And
that's why we we no matter if you're on a
GLP one, are not always stressed those things.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Yes, because those are risks.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Yep, for sure. Not eating enough calories leads to vitamin
micronutrient deficiencies right or hormonal health decrease muscle mass. There's
some research showing that forty percent of weight loss on
GLP ones are from lean lean lean muscle mass, lean
body mass. So that's our muscle mass and bones, and
(41:53):
the correlation there is that's because the people aren't eating
enough food and strength training. It's not strength training and
eating enough food is not an option. It's not optional.
It's a fucking if you want, if you care about
your health, and if you want long term results, it's
fucking mandatory. Yeah, it's not if or either or. And
I think there was a wasn't there an ad not
too long ago? I think you may might have made
(42:13):
a post about it about skip the gym, take a gym.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Yeah, that's from Willow Health, from fucking Willehealth too.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
Of course it won't.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
But they're they're so fucking tomsic. I'm telling you, yeah,
skip the gym. No, you don't need the gym. Are
you fucking out of your mind?
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Like this? This is what's making me crazy? Matt?
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah, And legitimately I'm going postal. Admittedly, I'm losing my
shit online, and I believe it for a legit reason.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
When we know, single handily one of the best things
that menopausal women can do, perimenopausal women or just women
in general, to prepare themselves to fucking crush it through
their menopause years, to have as much muscle as possible
and be as strong as possible. And here we have
a telehealth company saying you don't need exercises, take a
(42:57):
fucking GLP one. Yeah, that's fucked up. That's diet culture.
That's not about your health. When is it going to
become about your health?
Speaker 1 (43:06):
And this is why we need to get these pharmaceuticals
off the internet as being marketed.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
I agree they should. You shouldn't we should?
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Where do we go? Where do we go? Who do
we report to?
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Right?
Speaker 1 (43:20):
How do we get this shit handled? Because it's out
of control? You know what I'm saying. I don't even
know where to start.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Mm hmm neither do I. Like, we have questions, but
we don't know the answers to them. We'll keep asking
the question and we'll keep.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Now if you know, like, where could we go to
start a fucking revolution about getting pharmaceutical ads off the interwebs.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
I guess. I mean it goes comes down to our politicians, right,
we have.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
To I guess you're right for fuck's sakes and aspect.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
So we have to let our politicians know whether you're
left to right. This isn't a left to right thing, right,
but this is how we get changed to be made.
And the problem is the pharmaceutical industry lobbies so hard
billions of dollars every year to not have policies in
place because because of our capitalist society. So it's it's profit.
(44:08):
It's all about profit, right, So we'll have to talk
with like Jessica Nurick or something about this, you know, Yeah,
it definitely starts with policies and writing your your congressman,
writing your local representatives, your senators. Yeah, that this is
an issue and you want to see something done. Protests
doing what we're doing, raising awareness. That's as far as
(44:28):
I know, like some of the best things you can do.
But maybe our listeners have some better advice for us too.
Who knows. We have questions. We don't know, we don't
have a lot of answers to them, but we have questions.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
I just know that something needs to change, yes, before
it gets really scary. And I mean I think we're there,
to be honest, I think we're we're tipping the iceberg.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I agree. Oh man, Influencers Commissions
GLP ones.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Oh my, that's a title, is it?
Speaker 4 (45:02):
Influencers Commissions DLP ones? Oh mind, there's the episode title.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Don't forget it, Matt.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
If somebody has an incentive to make money off of
what they're selling, you like, don't you think they're a
little bit biased? What do they What does this person
have to have to gain by by telling me about
this product, by telling me about this experiment, by telling
me whatever they're doing.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Yeah, this is.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
Incentivises over selling to people that don't medically qualify and
to people that don't need them. We've seen it with detox, Tease, Appetite,
the presants, hCG drops, Right, We've seen it with all
these things over the past. It's just packaged up differently now.
That's all it is anyway, So Nerdle, we're back to
back to school. Seasons are changing new season of life
for so many people right now.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
I guess I gotta be honest. It's getting back to
school rikers back in school, what three weeks? This is
his third week back in school now, but this holiday
really fucked my week up. I feel like it's busy
time of year. Everybody's pivoting. Everybody's getting back and finding
a new routine essentially, or getting back to.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
His first day was yesterday. Yeah, so yeah, it's like,
oh fuck, new gym hour. You know, I gotta reconfigure
my meeting times. It's like, okay, you know, you know
the drill, Like everyone's surprised when it happened suddenly, right,
I've been prepared for this, actually, because I've been I
was in chaos for two weeks, and I lived my
(46:25):
life regimented for so long that it's like, okay, I
could do this. Pick up yesterday was at noon. It
was like half day, so I went to go pick
him up. I had to leave my team meeting early,
and then of course he wanted to stay because he's
now like the oldest. It went well for him, and
he's got like his four friends that were in the
(46:47):
middle school are now in the upper school, and so
he's the almost fourteen year old to the twelve and
thirteen year olds.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
So he's like got his little new group, right.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yeah, So yeah, I went to go pick him up
and one of his best friend's mother was there. She
has another son that's still there, and Milo's in high school.
Was his first day yesterday, so she's like, hey, Beth,
do you want to leave Johnny here and I will
go take him and we'll pick up mylo and surprise him.
And so I'm like, okay, I didn't bring Johnny lunch
(47:18):
because I was going to take him home and make lunch.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
I'm like, john I said, can you go get me
a subway? I'm like, ah, so I.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Had to leave there, go get a subway, bring it back,
and what you know, It's just like consistent movement where
I'm just like NonStop. But when he got when he
got home, I think I made a story about this.
I said, how was Milo's first day? And he said, well,
they told him not to go to the bathrooms because
they smoke and do drugs in there. I was like, okay,
fucking yes, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
First day of school while you're not going to that school.
Check I'm kidding. I'm like, I was like, well, you
know that's what happens. It's true.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
I mean, we had a smoking section outside in high
school not and we weren't.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
Oh yeah, what a different time to be alive. That's
why I know it was.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
You know, we had a smoke in action outside. That's
when we weren't vaping in the bathrooms. There was no
such thing as a bait.
Speaker 4 (48:05):
Yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
That's what they fucking do.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
Yeah, exactly, Molly crue.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Yeah, lots of pivoting. That pivoting.
Speaker 4 (48:15):
I'm pivoting pretty pretty hard right now. The biggest adjustment
for me is definitely my day to day Like summertime
I didn't like for me, you know, I taking records school.
It's such a big thing for me because it takes
so much time out of my day. But yeah, golf
is new for us this year too, so I didn't
have I didn't know what to expect with that, and
golf is taking up a lot of time. He had
(48:37):
a meet, a golf meet last week, and we didn't
get home until nine o'clock at night. We had left
our house at seven o'clock in the morning, so we
have to leave leave my house to get him to
school by eight. So we leave at seven o'clock and
then on those days, those longer days, I just work
in the town that he goes to school at, or
the nearest by town coffee shops and do calls and
things like that. But then golf is adding in another
(48:59):
dimension that because he gets out of school at three,
But then golf practice doesn't normally start till four or
four thirty. So I go and pick him up from school,
driving back into town, We'll get a snack or get
get us something quick, a quick bite to eat, spend
a little bit together, and then I'll run him back
to the golf course to practice, and then I'll try
to squeeze I squeeze in like my workout or my
run or something. So my entire routine has definitely been
(49:22):
thrown through a loop this first couple of weeks of
practice in school. So I'm adjusting to that and I'm
getting there. It just takes time, you know, it does.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
I'm realired.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
Yeah I'm tired.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
You get tired.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
But this isn't like something that we need to start over, right,
We just pivot changed essentially, Our foundations haven't changed, maybe
just when we're doing them or changing, and we just
need to be a little bit more prepared, a little
bit more dialed in instead of hitting that full blown
reset button.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
Yeah, And it really does come down to our our habits,
our our daily our daily things. So this is kind
of I like September as a good way to either refocus.
I know I've spins this month and myself is included
in this, to refocus and get dialed back into our
foundational stuff, get eighty percent consistent or with whatever you're doing,
(50:10):
go from there.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:12):
I wanted to mention too. This kind of showed itself
with my run this last weekend I had to do.
I was supposed to do a nineteen mile run this
past weekend. I haven't. I didn't mention on my social
media because I've been taking a few days off social media.
But I didn't complete my nineteen mile run over the weekend.
Best Oh really? Yeah? I did fifteen and a half. Okay, well,
(50:34):
so typically my long run days are Sundays, but then
this last Sunday I went, I was going. I went
golfing with Briker, my brother, and my nephew, and we
did eighteen So that was going to take up all
my time right there during my normal run time. So right,
I'll just run on Saturday instead. Cool. That meant I
was going to be running four days in a row
instead of having Saturday as a rest day for me.
So I was running four days in a row. So
(50:56):
I was already and my legs were already fatigued, especially
from coming from Katata. And then Saturday morning came around
and sarah son wanted to go to the zoo, and
Sarah invited me to go to the zoo with them.
I was like, yeah, absolutely, I want to. I want
to do both, right, So, and I was in a
dilemmam like do I go to go to the zoo
and spend some quality time with Sarah and her son
and Emma, or do I stick to my run and
(51:19):
stick to my plan. Well, It's like it doesn't need
to have to be either, or it can be both.
So I went to the zoo and then I came home,
had some food, and then I went on my run.
So I ran by two o'clock in the afternoon, right
so later in the day, and I was already struggling
with getting mentally prepared for that run. Yeah I was,
and I was running on tired legs. So these are
I mean, in a way, these are kind of excuses, Okay,
(51:41):
I could have. I truthfully could have completed the nineteen
fucking miles. But if I'm being completely honest, Beth, I
was just done with it. Yeah. Fifteen, I'm like, I'm turning.
I'm turning my happy ass back to my car. This
is good enough for me right now. Okay. He sometimes
like that, and that's that is the first time, and
that's okay. Since I've been training this year that I've
(52:02):
cut myself short on a run one time out of
the one hundred that I've done this year, hundreds that
I've done. I don't know how many runs I've done.
I've ran seven hundred miles this year. So I cut
myself three and a half miles short. I've done seven
hundred this year. That's okay, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (52:21):
So and then I signed up for I signed up
for twenty five K, so I'm doing a twenty five
k next weekend. So that was also I with that
in mind, I was like, because I signed up for
that last Friday, So I was like, you know what,
I don't need to do this full nineteen miles because
I have this race coming up. I'm starting a dload
and taper for these next two weeks going into that race.
Because the race is going to be two Sundays from now,
(52:44):
so it's a Sunday, the fourteenth, I'm doing a twenty
five k. They'll be my longest event, my longest race yet.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Twenty five k. What is that?
Speaker 4 (52:50):
It's about fifteen and a half miles, Okay, yeah, and
it's a trail run, so I'm using that as a
training run. I think my regular run would have been
twenty miles that day, but I'm doing fifteen and a half.
I'm calling you as a training run, So I'm just
kind of preparing myself for that right now.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
Ok nice?
Speaker 4 (53:07):
So yeah, I'm looking forward to that. That'll be fun.
I'm using that as a way to practice. So I'm
using that as a way to practice race day, my paces,
my fueling strategies and everything like that. I'm not going
out there to crush it, to try to win anything,
to set prs. I'm just going out there to practice.
So it's gonna be a good training run for me.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
Good.
Speaker 4 (53:27):
I did set a one mile pr this morning. Did
you on my my speed on my speed workout? Six
minutes and fifty seven seconds?
Speaker 1 (53:34):
Damn? Nice?
Speaker 4 (53:36):
Off two seconds off of my last mile time that
I yeah, I'd set a pr on my birthday July fourth,
but yeah, I had mile repeats today, So on my
on my on my second miles, like I'm gonna my
pace was supposed to be seven oh five, but it's
a it's a plus or minus ten ten seconds for
my range. Yep, I crushed it. I'm up to six
fifty five or six to fifty seven. So felt good.
(53:57):
Oh yeah, felt good. That's awesome. Sure, right, So we
just released new workouts in the Patreon, a new challenge
for the month of September. Amy made a funny comment
in the Facebook group. She said, no, no push up.
I saw that. Yes, I'm like, oh, don't you worry.
They're coming. They're going to be coming back in a
month or two. That's for our home workout folks, there's
(54:18):
always in there. We put a dumbbell bench press variation
in there this month instead. Yeah, we just did the
birthday promo. I think people were loving that. Birthday Promo's over,
sorry everybody, but you can still support our Patreon podcast
for five bucks a month. My traditional support joined the
joined the Patreon. New workouts just dropped for both home
(54:38):
and the Gym and cher Nutrition just had their birthday too,
they did. We were promoting. My clients have been loving
the Serenity and Flow gummy combo. Yeah, I've been getting
such good feedback from my clients about that combo Serenity
and Flow. Serenity has been helping my clients sleep better.
Flo is helping them with their workouts, they run workouts
(55:00):
and even with work like with meetings and things like that.
My client has been noticing improvement with the focus helping
or the flow helping them with their focus. Yeah, which
is really cool. I'd love, love, love to hear this
feedback from, you know, from my clients who I have
a really close relationship with, and how with how helpful
it is for them. Yeah, I know you hear a
lot of the same from from your clients, from your
(55:22):
followers and things like oh yeah, yeah, what are you
loving right now of the cured products?
Speaker 1 (55:28):
I use the Serenity gummies at night. Those are my.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
Chances I've switched from Flow to Ghost and Serenity Gummies
are just always a go to for me.
Speaker 4 (55:37):
Sure, So that's a shapfle for you.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
Yeah, And of course the save is a game changer.
Speaker 4 (55:43):
I think that's probably their most underrated product, is this.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 4 (55:47):
I've been slathering myself in that, my my ankles and
my feet after my long run after the because we've
been doing some hard hikes, runs and stuff recently, so
that's been really helpful. Yeah, as always, really good recovery there.
So if you're in your Cure Nutrition dot Com slash CTC,
get you twenty percent off with our discount code of CTC.
We love it. Okay, Well, it's a good wrapping up point,
(56:08):
I think. Yeah, all right, everybody, let us know what
you think of this episode. We want to know what
you're thinking. We want to know what you're struggling with.
We want to know what your thoughts are on everything
we talked about with GLP ones and how they're targeting people.
Let's keep the conversation going outside of just myself and Beth.
We want to for you, but because you're all what
matters here?
Speaker 1 (56:27):
I know exactly.
Speaker 4 (56:28):
Yep, we're doing that's for you. All right, y'all, You
have a good one.
Speaker 1 (56:33):
Bye.
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