212- How To Get Rid Of 'Meno Belly'

Meno belly. Cortisol face. These are terms used to target menopausal women by influencers and grifters online. Not only are they completely bogus terms but they aren't endearing, either.In this episode we dive into world of meno belly - what it is, what causes it, and how you can get rid of (hint: you don't need any supplements, detox teas, or coupon codes for a GLP-1).We dig into:

• What causes 'menu belly' and how you can take back control

• Beth's reverse diet and her previous meno belly experience
• Matt's powerlifting story and endurance training
• Long term goals and focusing on the process, not the outcome

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Estrogen drops, which changes our fat storage patterns instead of
being more evenly distributed right like between your hips, diied butt,
which is like where most women store in their body fat.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
And that's why you notice it because it's shifting in
different areas. But that is still because there is an
excess of calories lack of movement going on.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
So if you're in a calorie deficit, guess what that
gets rid of the quote unquote mentobelly. Maybe not directly
because you can't target where you lose body fat from,
but your body will lose body fat body mass if
you're in a caloric deficit from wherever the fuck it
wants to, and you just have to be along for
the ride.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
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Speaker 1 (00:45):
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What's up?

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Not a whole lot? Happy podcast day, Happy podcast Day.
Excited to get into it today, I know, as.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Always, but as always we got a loss to say.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
When don't we.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, you know what's cool. It's like, I feel like
this is an extension of like my stories on Instagram
or something like we could just discuss more on a
topic here than anywhere, like not a quick thirty second
reel would do.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
That's why we started this podcast in the first yeah,
was to give ourselves more of a voice, amplify our voice,
and exactly to not be limited by one one minute
of reels and tiktoks and.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah yeah comment sections and negativity yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Which still if it still tends to find its way
to our podcast.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Some yeah get But when that happens, it's like people
have to reach for that, and and that's like legitimately
that they're so triggered, that's their issue. But I find
it really funny that we make people so angry they
go out of their fucking way to make a negative
Like what do you want to say? Review? Right? Like,

(02:46):
even if I didn't like something that I'd listened to,
I would never make a fucking negative review, because that's
just not the person I am. Yep, I don't go
around just exposing negativity everywhere, Like these people are fucking miserable.
Like if you have to leave a negative and call
us out for like swearing you are fucking.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Sound podcast of all places, I mean.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Go somewhere else. You know what's forcing you to listen
to us?

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah? That podcast just randomly showed up on your phone? Screw,
so you went out of your way to find our podcast,
download an episode, and then listen. No what you're well,
we're all.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Right.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
That's so funny that I just had this interaction happen
over the weekend. You'll get a kick out of this, Okay.
So you know our friend Emily Lynn Paulson. Yes, she
was on a podcast so long ago it does.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, yeah, MLM. She wrote the book.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Her book is heyhun.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yes, I knew it was, okay.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Sisterhood, supremacy and other lies behind multi leaving multi level marketing.
So this story kind of involves her. So we follow
each other on Instagram and I saw that she was
posting about this MLM. This woman that is involved in
an MLM. Well, she just wrote a quote unquote wrote
a book. This woman did, okay, but she used chat
gbt to write it. And that's the thing. A lot

(04:00):
of new authors are just using chat gbt to write
their fucking books, and it's very prevalent in the MLM industry.
Of course, you imagine that. Well, this woman wrote the
book on chat GBT and then she bought bought copies
of it on Amazon for all of the all of
her downline, so all the people underneath her in her MLM,

(04:22):
she bought copies for them, and then it reached the
US to USA Today bestseller list because of that, And
so you know what this woman did she bought herself
a plaque to celebrate, and so like this crystal plaque
to celebrate, and so Emily was posting about it on
her stories, and so I went to this woman's page

(04:42):
and I said, I said, aren't you the woman that
bought yourself a fake, fake award after creating a fake
book and giving it to all your downline people? And
you know what this woman did?

Speaker 2 (04:53):
What?

Speaker 1 (04:53):
She tracked my email address down and emailed me talking shit,
and I checked my Instagram m dms. A few hours later,
she sent me five dms in a row, triggered beyond
trigger really direct me down, emailed me not once, not twice,
but three times, and sent me five dms.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
What did she have to say for herself? What did
you say about that?

Speaker 1 (05:17):
She actually screenshotted my story because I had a story
up of of me and Riker at my parents' house.
She's like, do you teach your son to shame women
on the internet? And like what? First of all, I'm like,
who the fuck is this? Like who is this woman?
You know? So, yeah, this woman was lost, her lost
her ship. Dude, Yeah, you really went out of your

(05:39):
way to tell me how much you don't care.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah. That was when I saw the email pop up.
It was about in query. I was like, oh cool,
somebody wants to know about coaching or something.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
I recognized the name and I looked at Hi. I'm like,
what is this? And then I connected the doss. I
was like, okay, wait a second, Okay, is that woman
that I commented about buying the fake plaque? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Okay, talk about yeah that she's like literally outing herself
right now right there.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, for sure, fucking sad. Yeah, and then she boxed
me on Instagram and I told her she's triggered, so.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
You need to send her the triggered Hamster meme or
the Hamsters Like eah, yeah, yeah, it says triggered.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
That's exactly what it was. My responsibilities they aren't.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
And so many people are triggered. I mean, fuck, I
get triggered, but I let people know when I'm triggered,
you know, and I'm fucking triggered.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, we definitely know when you're triggered, Bath
because you let us know. This pisses me the fuck off.
Oh yeah, this is off in the nutrition fitness world
and it just keeps ever revolving cycle.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, honestly, like the direction it's going, like you can
count me the fuck out, you know what I'm saying.
I'm just gonna keep doing the boring basic shit and
watch everyone just like get like immersed in their longevity
fucking protocols and just io hacking fucking whatever the fuck
you're doing. Like, my god, here's a good biohack.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Get a good night's sleep, hydrate, move your body consistently,
strengthen your body, and eat a nutritious diet. There's your biohack.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
I can't fucking stress that enough. What this bikini prep
really has taught me is that my nutrition it's so
fucking foundational, even like for my cholesterols, but I already knew,
but it's like it almost forced me into having more nutrient,
forced me more fruits and vegetables. I had to. I
had no choice, right that. By doing that, it's like

(07:35):
made me realize that, Wow, it really did affect the
way I feel, the way I look, et cetera. Anyway,
it's it's consistent learning.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, yeah, that's and that's something that we can talk
about because like we have some things we want to
talk about. And that's where like where I'm headed with
my goals too, honestly, So yeah, yeah, where are you
at with like your whole coming off of prep and
getting into your reverse now?

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, that's so I'm about like I guess like heading
it like second week, like coming into the the end
of the second week will be like this weekend. Mm hm,
so eating more if the food noise honestly is not
even there, Like I think the fact that I no
longer have this specific date that I have to have
this specific goal, and it's like all like like a relief,

(08:22):
like I don't know, it's like I don't stress about
the food thing as much at all. That's good, more
calories on workout days. I have that free meal on Friday,
which I had sushi last week. I'm gonna have pizza
on Friday this week. I'm just feeling really good. But
my diet has been just really right now an extension
of what it was just really nutrient dense foods. I'm

(08:42):
not really like I don't really want cheese its and
shit like that's not what and I'm not saying I'm
giving that shit up, Like I hate being that person.
I'm I'm never gonna eat that again, or I don't
want to that's not the case.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Experience how your body feels with that.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I just really the way I feel and the way
my body is looking and morphing, And this is where
you have to make that choice. I'm making a choice
to eat more nutrient dents for my physique goals and
how I feel this time in my life. And that's
really all it is. You know, I don't even know

(09:16):
what I want to say. I feel like I have
a brain fart.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
No, I see what you're saying. Like you're at the action,
like we always say, the action is meeting the goal.
And like I said too, like you have realized how
how much better your body feels when you're not eating
those foods Like you said last week, I think when
you did some of those foods, you introduced some of
those foods and granted is because you weren't eating them. Yeah,
exactly why your body was responding to them wasn't favorable

(09:41):
for you right now. So yeah, why would continue to
eat those things if your body's not agreeing with I mean, and.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Let me just say, like as this reverse, as I'm
adding more food and like starting to fill out a
little bit more, the way my body is looking is like,
holy fuck, like I've been wanting to look like this
for fucking years and it's because I never really dialed
in my nutrition as much as I ever have this
time in my life ever. And it's fucking crazy. It

(10:08):
is crazy when the difference, you know. So, yeah, it's
just what I'm experiencing right now, what I'm noticing, and
I'm going to continue to eat more food, continue to
do what Kelly tells me, and continue to see what
my body looks like by feeding it what it's what
it loves. I guess feeling my body in the way
and like crushing in the gym and eating more the

(10:31):
fucking potatoes and sweet potatoes and rice and you know
all that shit and not weekend nights with French fries
and nachos. And I'm not, like, like I said, like,
I'm not not going to have that stuff, but it's
not going to be like the main focus of my life.
I don't even know.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
If you were go like you, you would have those
foods more frequently.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Right, probably, yeah, I mean absolutely.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, not that you are in a good place then
it's just different goals in different phase of you.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I have different goals now more now that I see
the aesthetics that I have. I want to continue to
grow in that aspect. So I want to see where
I can take myself.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
YEA, why not? Right?

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Why the fuck not?

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Why? And the answer is like, well, why You're doing
it because I fucking can.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Because because I can and I want to, and I
feel fucking banging. I look fucking banging, and I've never
really felt that before. And as I'm like filling out more,
I'm like, I can't wait. She's like Kelly's like, Yeah,
your muscle's going to fill up more and more as
you you're feeding at these nutrient dense foods and the
foods that your body loves. It's fucking crazy. And the
training that I'm doing and just set.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
People to understand, like because I like, like we talk
about fueling your body and like fueling your body for performance,
fueling your body for your goals, right and right? Right? Really,
what what like if you can switch from that mindset
of like just eating to eat to meet a calorie goal,
because yes, that is that's what matters, right for faul losses.
Is overall, the calories are what matters for foulaws, right,

(11:58):
But if we want to take it to the next
level and feel good, look amazing, get a better night's sleep,
have better stress management. Right, Like the food that you
eat does matter?

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, it really does. Yeah, And I've always been I
started coaching like having a shitty relationship with food. So
it's like I healed my relationship with food as I
started coaching, as I started doing like my candy challenge,
and I was a heal your relationship with food focus.
You can lose got eating anything which you can ALRII
deposit abs fucking litly, right, And then with each year

(12:29):
that you progress in your fitness, you advance.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
And that doesn't work as well, right, and.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
You need to do things differently, right, And I'm ten
years in right, So when you think about it, like, okay,
like I probably should have been doing this a few
years ago, but that's okay, I'm fine, It's that's no
big deal. I still love myself in every part of
the way. But just doing this, I've learned a singer
too that I didn't really learn before because I have
always been that coach general population not. I am still

(12:58):
not a bodybuilding zeke coach, so to speak, right, I
guess that you would call that. So that's a whole
different realm. And like I said, this is a choice, right,
I'm choosing this and because it makes me feel good
and I don't feel restricted even doing this, because I
don't not have the mindset of not eating this ever
again type thing. It's just highly processed foods aren't going

(13:20):
to be the majority of my diet.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah, And that's why I think, like the if it
fits your macro's approach works really well for starting out.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
That's how I started, right, And that's that's how I
started on my finners journey. Was when I got really serious,
was if it fits your macros. When I worked with
a coach, I worked with a macro coach. He gave
me the macros. Just meet these macros whatever you want,
meet these macros, right, And that worked, and you know,
and then I evolved from there. When I first became
a coach online coach in twenty nineteen, it was the

(13:51):
only thing I knew. So I came on as a
macro coach and so I gave people macros right. And
I don't know, I think I've mentioned this on the
podcast before, but it was like my clients weren't adhering
to the macros you know, as a whole new world
of online coaching and giving people macros, and is like, well,
why we're following the macros, like, yeah, follow the plan
you know. Well, it's because it's so it's deeper than

(14:12):
just the macros and the x's and o's, right. So
that's when we got started morphing into the behavioral and
mindset and mindful eating realm.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
So and I think that's what people need to understand
is that us as coaches, and especially when we're making
content to the general population, we want you to be
able to start something and be consistent with it.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
So and we're making content, we're talking to the general pop.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
We're talking to someone that's never ever tracked calories before,
for instance, right, and you're not going to be like,
oh my god, I needed to know these specific macronutrients
and I need to know this because that's going to
keep you from tracking. So we want to take like
the least path of resistance. Yes, right, So that would
be okay, let's get your calorie deficit number and we're
just going to have you track calories and protein to start.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
We're going to get good at that, you know, and get.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Really good at that. And that's going to help you
be consistent because it's a a little bit easier than
oh my god, I need to make sure I have
these specific fats and carbs, and you're you're gonna probably
not follow through and say that tracking calorie sucks. So
there's steps to this process for sure, and you will
have great success with just tracking calories and protein one
hundred percent. I did it for years.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yep, yep, for sure, calories, protein, fiber.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yes, fiber. And that's also something that I've recently added
within the past like four or five years, is tracking
the fiber.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Is if you're getting your fiber, you're going to be
getting that's that's that's why I like the fiber because
fiber is so important, and ninety five percent of Americans aren't. Yeah, fiber,
But if you're getting, if you're meeting your pro your
your protein and your fiber goals, I can almost guarantee
you you're eating a nice, diverse diet with plenty of
nutrients and good volume as foods, unless you're just doing

(15:50):
nothing but supplementing with metal, musle or whatever for fiber,
right right, Yeah, that's not the route that we take
with our clients. So right, Yeah, awesome. I love that.
Love that our goals evolved and our approach evolves, and
that's yeah, really what's important.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
And just because I'm doing this doesn't mean you have
to do this. Do you know what I'm saying? Like
it's not optimal? Uh, my fucking word is being overused,
Like I'm just like, you know, you know you got
to do what's optimal for you, do you know? You
know what? You know what I'm saying, It's like, don't
compare yourself to me. And here's the thing. I want

(16:28):
everybody to eat more nutrient dense foods, but is that
realistic for you and your lifestyle. You have to think
about that. No one is forcing you to do anything.
It's your choice. This is my choice, okay, And hey,
it meets the dietary guidelines. Fucking amazing, Right, that's what
we want you to do too. But that's not easy
for a lot of people that.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Like, we have an OBEs epidemic, right, and health chronic
health issues in our countries. Yeah, and people like to
point out like, well, the guidelines have failed us. No,
the guidelines haven't failed us. Nobody's fucking meeting the guidelines.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
That's the thing.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
That's why we need to get people meeting the guidelines
before we start trying to change the guidelines and overly
complicate them. Let's make it easier to actually reach the
guidelines we have in place, because the guidelines in place
will get you to a place where you're pretty fucking healthy.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
And exactly and increasingly.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
You're decreasing your chance of dying of fucking anything of
all costs. You're alco Do you want to.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Look up really quick, what are the nutritional guidelines for
fruits and vegetables and all that stuff for the average
American human being?

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (17:32):
And I want to be specific.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, let's take a look at it here. Dietary Guidelines
for Americans twenty twenty through twenty twenty five. Make every
body count with the dietary guidelines. And this is one
thing people say, like people that are in the Maha movie,
they're like the said, the standard American diet has failed us.
The guidelines have failed us. No, people aren't reaching the
guidelines right, this is one hundred and plus pages.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Holy shit, don't they have like a my plate.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Or on my plate? Okay? Yes, just like how many.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Like vegetables and like fruits should someone be getting a day,
et cetera.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yes, okay, here we go. Okay, my plate, fill half
your plate with fruits and vegetables. Make at least half
your grains whole grains, protein, go lean with protein keep
portioned to a quarter of the plate. Nuts, beans, peas, seeds, poultry,
lean meat, seafoods, soy and eggs are in this group.
Dairy is essentially a little salad cup. Right, So my

(18:34):
plate is a lot better than what it was. The pyramid,
the food pyramid is what it which is.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
No longer something we use, by the way, eventually, to put.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
It very simple, I know we just went down a
rabbit hole right there. But half of your plate should
be vegetables and fruit, quarter of it should be protein,
quarter of it should be whole grains aka complex carbs. Yeah,
some size for fat essentially, So that's kind of the guidelines.
It doesn't that doesn't give you like servings and things

(19:04):
like that, but we know our guidelines for like fiber
are twenty five grams a day of fiber for women
and thirty five grams a day for men, or it's
about fourteen grams of fiber for every one thousand calories
you're consuming every day. Americans aren't getting that right. So
there's the guidelines and people aren't following. And then so
if we aren't following the nutritional guidelines, we already know

(19:26):
we aren't meeting physical activity guidelines, which is one hundred
and fifty minutes of moderate physical activity cardiovascular activity every
single week and strengthening your body one to two times
a week. Most Americans aren't doing that either. So it's
no wonder why we're unhealthy. We're struggling with chronic disease.
There's these lifestyle factors, so we need to it's not

(19:48):
the problem. The problem is not the guidelines. It's the
problem that the problem is that we aren't reaching them.
So we need to make not reaching them. Make fruits
and vegetables more accessible, more a form, We need to
make fitness more accessible, more for We need more walkable cities,
so on and so forth. When that comes from policy change,
not from guidelines. People aren't going to fucking follow guidelines.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
That's a thing. You have a choice here, guys. This
is all up to you, honestly.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Mm hmm. Yeah. Just simply changing the guidelines isn't going
to change.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Anything, right, That's not going to make America healthy again,
you have to take action towards it.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
I want to talk about to posts I made today
about the meno belly. Yeah, I said meno belly here
or meno belly here. I got some comments, of course,
you know you did. And when I took the the
before photo was like when I was forty three and
my brother sent that to me recently and I was like, oh, wow,
I was twenty sixteen, I was a year sober, I

(20:47):
was running a lot, and I wasn't really like, I
wasn't focusing on my nutrition. I wasn't really I definitely
wasn't weighing my food. It definitely wasn't focused on protein.
I definitely wasn't doing any of the shit that I
do now, you know what I'm saying. And of course
i'd be like doing everything all the over, exercising, all
the running and shit, and you know, not focusing on

(21:07):
my fucking anything else. So when I look at it now,
it's like, Okay, yeah, I could have said that's a
perry menopausal belly, menobelly. I was forty three, right, perry menopausal.
But now I'm fifty two, almost fifty three and I
don't have that, So it's not because of menopause. Well, yeah,

(21:28):
I mean I'm still for all I know, I'm still
in peri menopause because I'm on birth control and I
don't have a period anyway, So I don't know if
I've actually gone a full year realistically to be in menopause.
It has had nothing to do with the fact that,
like it was my hormones and shit, it was because
I wasn't focusing on anything and now I am. And

(21:51):
so that's the difference. People over complicate this shit so much.
And so I got some comments, you know, this One
person was like, I've been string training for four to
five days a week, walk three to four days a week,
rarely during sleep hours a night. My calorie deficit must
be my problem, as the scale hasn't budged. Then she says,

(22:12):
I keep in a deficit half the week and then fail.
I honestly thought all the other things combined would be
enough nutrition whatever. I was in the best shape of
my life just four years ago, and bam, okay, But
the key thing she said here is I keep in
a deficit half the week, half.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
The fucking time. How dare are you not getting results.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
By your own guys, I'm telling you this is the problem.
It's because you're not consistent. So why can't you be consistent?
You need to figure that out.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Like it's great that she's doing those other things, right,
like yeah, oh yeah, that she's getting good sleep, that
she's not drinking awesome, Her health is going to thank
her for that. But to see if that loss results,
you still need to be in a calorie deficit more
than fifty time.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
And she even said I honestly thought doing all the
other things combined would be enough. Understand, you need to
be in a deficit be and it's not easy. I
just did it. It's not easy. You need to be vigilant.
I get it. But here's the thing, Like there is
no quick fix, okay, Like if I can go down
a rabbit hole, then anyway, yes, And then someone else

(23:16):
made the comment of curious if you're taking any estrogen.
I'm not implying that you are that is why you've
lost your weight loss, just curious And I'm okay, first off,
like that has nothing to do with weight loss or
weight gain either, I should say fat loss or fat gain, right,
Because if you are starting to take an HRT. You
may retain water, okay, but taking an HRT is not

(23:39):
going to be your weight loss miracle cure. It's just
going to minimize your menopausal symptoms. That's it, right, And
it's gonna make it easier for you to get into
a deficit. That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yes, absolute, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
We're searching for outside of what's what we already know guys.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Right, So the fact that that woman had the awareness
though to say that she's only in a deficit fifty
percent of the time, that's great. Yeah, now she knows,
like that's the fucking problem, Like and maybe that's that's
the slap in the face that she needs, Like, oh shit,
this variable that is very much low in my direct control.
I haven't been doing a good job of controlling that.
Imagine she goes from fifty percent consistent to eighty percent consistent,

(24:18):
Like people like, if you can get eighty percent consistent,
you can do a fuck ton with your with yea,
with changing your body, getting stronger, losing body from it.
Doesn't need to be one hundred percent consistent, right, Like
you don't need to be all the way in. Yeah,
you're probably one hundred percent consistent there for a few
months with your with your problem. Don't don't need to
be to be that that level. But if you have

(24:39):
specific goals like you did, then sure you need to be.
But for most people it's going to be more than
enough as being eighty percent consistent. Yeah, I think two. Like,
mental belly is bullshit. It's not an official medical term, right,
it's it's not. It's one of those things that's been
a marketing term, right. It's influencers and people selling you

(25:00):
things have coined that term.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Mentally, I feel like it's a derogatory thing to say
to women too for some reason. It's just it's just like,
come on, guys, you have a little bit of a bit.
Why do we have to name it something? It's so
fucking rude, Like I'm sorry, just I've never called myself
look at my men look at my meno belly, and
never have been a thought in my mind ever to

(25:23):
like call up my one of my body parts a name.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
I don't know, right, I agree. And it's not like
you don't just get mento belly overnight when you get
into menopause, right, you don't. You don't just develop this
new body part which is menobelly.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Right right right.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
And the only way that meno belly quote unquote mento
belly is going to be a problem or an issue
for people is if their calories are still too many
of them what they need. It's belly fat from a
surplus of calories. Now, the reason why it's more prevalent
in menopausal women is because of the hormonal shifts estrogen drops,

(25:59):
which change is our fat storage patterns instead of being
more evenly distributed right like between your hips sized butt,
which is like where most women store in your body fat.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
And that's why you notice it because it's shifting in
different areas. But that is still because there is an
excess of calories lack of movement going on.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
So if you're in a calorie deficit, guess what that
gets rid of the quote unquote mentobelly. Maybe not directly
because you can't target where you lose body fat from,
but your body will lose body fat body mass if
you're in a caloric deficit from where the fuck it
wants to, and you just have to be along for
the ride. Essentially, you do things to encourage where your

(26:37):
body gets takes some body fat from.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
I feel like everyone needs to understand that too, Like
everyone loses fat differently. I lose fat in my arms
the last, right, But it is what it is. It's
not like, oh my god, can you please just hurry up.
It's just like you just go with the flow, stopping
so hyper focus on your fucking body parts. You just
overwhelmed yourself with being so just obsessive.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, they need to be obsessive about something.
They should obsess about getting into a calorie deficit consistently
in strength training, moving their body consistently.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, I just get obsessed with the motion, motions, the.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Actions, the process, the process.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, fall in love with the.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Process, not the end goal. You have to detach the
outcome from the process. Fall in love with the process.
Build a system, build these processes that you love, that
are enjoyable, that actually work for you in your life. Yeah,
build the systems. Ye, then the results come. The outcomes
come after that. But so from so often we're just
focused on the outcome goal. Yeah, lose thirty pounds, lose

(27:48):
my mental belly, lose my corner's.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
All face right, right?

Speaker 1 (27:52):
And another thing with like mento belly two is the
loss of muscle mass too, right.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
So, yes, under muscled women everywhere for.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Sure, muscled women right. So with age, our muscle naturally
declines unless your strength training. Muscle is literally one of
those things. You use it or you lose it. Okay,
less muscle means you're going to have You're not gonna
have that physique that you want. If you have more muscle,
that mental belly won't be so prevalent because you'll have

(28:19):
more muscle to show off and you'll have a better
body composition. Yep, you've been building your muscle bank for
a decade.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Now, close to a decade.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, close to a decade.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Now, I started probably shortly after that photo.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Got it.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
We'll call it a decade, Yeah, I would say, I
mean we're coming up on a decade Jesus for sure. Yeah.
So and you could tell in that photo that I'm
very under muscle in that photo. Yeah, but my arms
have no muscle at all, So it's like prevalent. I
was under muscled, and I was I was like doing
a ton of cardio. H right, it's literally right there.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
But also that's what women do too, and right, like
not to call out women, but like we're talking about menopauses,
I want to get toned, so I'm going to do
a bunch of fucking cardio. That's not how you get
to the physique that you want exactly.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
And also I think it's important to say that in
that photo too, I was doing what I knew at
that time. And also I was sober for a year
and I was running, which I never did before, and
so like each step was a path to better health
for me, right, And I think people need to understand
that too, Like you start where you are and you
just improve every single year. And that's what I did.

(29:26):
I start where I was. I started where I started,
which was quitting drinking, and then I started running, and
then each year I focused on something else. And it
wasn't like I planned it that way, it just happened
that way. So stop overthinking your journey and just start right.
It's not going to be perfect today. When I look back,
it's like that was perfect for me then, m right

(29:48):
for sure, you know, and I have morphed into the
person that I am right now because of that person.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yes, you kind of be the person that you are
now without you're going all those other different phases of your.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Life exactly well led you to hear, and I loved
every person along the way and never honestly important people
to understand that. I think that's what you need to
understand too, Like I love myself. Last Christmas, I was
pumped with the way I looked because you know, I'm
just always taking care of myself. But with each thing
that I do, like this next thing, I'm like, you know, shit,
I didn't know I can improve this much more.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
And so it's like, holy fuck, Okay, cool, that's fun,
let's do this.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
For sure kind of thing, you know, absolutely, so kind
of cliff notes here of like what works for menopause
aka or that that meno belly. Right, So, strength training,
build more muscle, improve your metabolism, help hormonal regulation. Protein
and fiber supports to your satiety, your muscle maintenance, promote

(30:46):
good blood sugar regulation with the fiber, walking, daily walking,
neat non exercise activity, thermogenesis. Stress management. Right, that's one
thing we need so often from menopausal women is the stress.
The cortisol face. Cortisol face is because of your You're
stressed the fuck out right, And then I should say
CORTI is all face, but you're stressed. That's what it

(31:06):
is okay. No, practice yoga, mindfulness, go to fucking care. Yeah,
practice regular self care to keep your court is all
in check. Get a good night's sleep, practice good at
sleep hygiene, and then do the mindset work. Right, the
mindset change, that's the behavior change. Accepting body change is normal. Yeah,
body bodies change as we as we change as we

(31:28):
as we grow older. Focus on improving your energy, your strength,
and your long term health and not the short term
superficial goals of losing x amount of weights or or
getting toned or whatever. Mm hmm yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
good talk, good talk. So your goals of your goals
of are evolving, right, yeah, not evolving, but this is

(31:51):
just really this is just the next phase of your goal,
your long goals, right yeah yeah, yeah, that's really it.
Our goals change or evolve as we as we Yeah. Yeah,
my goals are kind of evolving. I've been working on
some of my own goals here for my long term goal.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Now, let's talk about that.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. So I've been
getting the itch to lift heavy shit, like heavy shit,
right like I used to. I used to for our
long time listeners or long time followers, they they would
know me as some I've done powerlifting competition before and
that's how I trame and on my memories and things
like that. Occasionally I'll get powerlifting memories pop up for

(32:32):
my meats or when my dadlifted really heavy, Like the
one that popped up the other day was when I
dead lifted four hundred and ninety five pounds, and I
was like.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Fuck, like, yeah, is that the when you were slapping
yourself in the face. Oh my god, that's fucking awesome.
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Total you know, Yeah, that same memory post came up
last year, but it was just a memory for me
at that time, Like it didn't lisit any type of
an emotional response or anything. Yeah, so that's how I knew.
It was like I'm not ready to get back to
that yet, but like this time when it popped up
for me, I was like, oh my god, yeah, I
actually really missed that. And so I spent like all
weekend reflecting on it and thinking about it. Like and

(33:08):
when I went on my long run over the weekend,
I did twelve miles long run. That's all I was
thinking about was powerlifting and my goals and how I
can integrate the two, you know. Yeah, so yeah, I'm like,
I'm getting fired up about the idea of like getting
back into powerlifting and getting really fucking strong again.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
H Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
That doesn't mean my running goals are going to go
anywhere though, because I'm still like, I'm a runner at
this point. This is just part of me, This is
my my my identity is I'm a runner and yeah,
you know, and that's just something I love to do.
So I'm still working on my running goals. And I
got it. I busted out some my powerlifting gear on
on Monday. I got my old niece leaves out, got
my my big ass powerlifting belt, took them to the

(33:45):
name with me, and I was like, oh, this ship's
covered in cob webs, so literally I had to knock
the cobwebs.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Off of them, you know, Oh my god, that's so funny.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
So I posted about that. I got a couple of
dms like, oh, like what does this mean? Like are
you not doing your fifty K? Like are you not
doing Like no, I'm still doing that, still doing that.
I'm going to do both. But it's a long term goal. Yeah,
and it's totally possible, So like, right, now powerlifting. Powerlifting
to me is that's how I trained for so long,
for so many years, and that to me just that's

(34:16):
what helped me fall in love with fitness because when
I first got into fitness, I was I got into
fitness to change my body. I started doing bodybuilding style workouts.
When I worked with a macro coach. He had me
doing bodybuilding splits five days a week and I was
only eating eighteen hundred and eighteen hundred calories a day
and on my macros split right, and I was. I

(34:37):
remember going through those workouts just how miserable. I was, like,
I just want to eat food. I just want to
eat food, right, So that, yeah, I had that food
though it was way back then, being an eighteen hundred
calorie diet and a bodybuilding split five days a week.
And I don't know, I don't even know how, but
like I gradually got into like strong man. I fell
in love with like the strong man idea, Like I

(34:57):
see these big, strong guys fucking lifting with thout pounds,
you know, and like I fell in love with that idea.
And I was like, how do you get that big?
How do you get that strong? You don't do it
by eating like a bird, you know, right, So that
to me, like, that's what made me fall in love
with fitness and weightlifting was powerlifting and getting really really
fucking strong and fueling my body, eating enough protein, eating

(35:21):
enough calories and things like that. So I remember that
time phase is being very very very a very fond
period of my life. Yeah, And I did it. I
did the thing for many many years. I competed, I
got third place in my in my weightlifting class, and
I almost stopped powerlifting almost immediately after that. But I

(35:43):
know why, and I remember I'd stopped enjoying it towards
the end because powerlifting, because I was preparing for a lift,
it was all about the numbers. Right, So just like
with anything with diets, with calorie deficits, whatever, if you're
obsessing about the numbers, if you're trying to lose way,
if you obsess about the numbers, you are going to
lose your passion for that thing. Yes, yes, And so

(36:06):
I got burnt out with powerlifting because I was just
mentally burnout because I was just focused on the numbers.
I got to go into my lift, my workout today,
here's the weight that I have to lift. I have
to lift a X amount of times, so it took
the enjoyment factor out of it for me.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yeah, I think that's really prevalent the number situation people
do that with fout loss, but also in general. I'm
going to bring a nut story about Johnny and his
jiu jitsu and what the teacher in Cocoa Beach taught
the class was, stop focusing on your stripes. Stop asking
me about when you're going to get your next stripe.

(36:42):
You're not going to get your next stripe if you
keep asking. This is not about your stripes. It really
isn't about the numbers. It's really about just doing your
fucking best.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yes, it's about right about the process.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Exactly, Matt. And so this is very important I think
for everybody in every aspect of their life to stop focusing,
hyper focusing on the numbers that you've also made up
in your mind. Yeah, of what you think should be
perfect in all aspects.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Right, yep. I love that. Thank you for that. Beth
and Nerdle, Beth I called you. I called you Nerdle
on a podcast we did together last week, and I
was like, that didn't sound right because nobody we were on.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
A different podcast. I didn't even notice. That's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
I can't wait for that one to come out though.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Side ah, that was anyway, Yes, you guys we were
on a podcast with Berda. Well, when it comes out,
we'll tell you. Yeah for sure. So you were thinking
about the numbers and it took away the passion and
the fun out of it for you.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
I fell out of love with it, and yeah, I'll
be I got to be honest, and I've talked about
here on this podcast, and I think you know this
about me too, Beth Is I haven't enjoyed lifting in
a couple of years. Yeah, I haven't. I've still been
doing it. I know how important it is, and it
does make me feel good while I'm doing it, but
I haven't enjoyed the process of going to the gym,
lifting weights and things like that. I lost that passion.

(38:02):
I found my passion again with running, right, So I
found that passion. Running does for me what powerlifting used
to do for me in terms of the mental health benefits,
how happy it makes me feel, and how how empowering
it is and how strong it makes me feel. Okay, yeah,
but I know powerlifting is still there. I still got
that piece of me. But it's not going to be

(38:24):
about the numbers.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
For me.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
I'm not gonna I'm not going out And here's the thing,
I'm not going into it with thinking like I needed
dead at four hundred ninety five pounds again, I need
to squat four hundred pounds again. I need to bench
press two hundred and seventy five pounds. My bench press
was always my worst lift, but whatever it was, right,
So I'm not going in to compare myself to where
I was a few years ago. What three four years

(38:46):
ago now was the last time I sit I was
seriously in powerlifting. Yeah, So I'm not going into it
for that. It's all about the process and enjoying it
and falling in love with that with the process again.
So my goal, essentially I told you this some texts
the other day, is by my fourtieth birthday. That's my
goal right now, to be strong as fuck, fast as fuck. Right.

(39:09):
The outcome there isn't based off of numbers. It's not
based off of going to a powerlifting competition, because I
don't even know if I'll go to a powerlifting competition. Yeah,
just that that would be like putting the car before
the horse. I have a lot about It's not about that.
I just want to get back into it. I just
want to get back into it. So what I'm doing
now is just gradually getting back into it. So what

(39:32):
I'm doing is like, it's time to get strong again.
I'm going to be I'm going I'm being intentional with
going into the gym with a plan gets stronger because
for the last few years I haven't even followed a
workout plan in the gym. Bet, I haven't had a plan.
I went in left mindfully, well, Okay, I go into
like I'm going to train. I know what I'm training
a few days a week, my body parts, but the

(39:53):
weights I use, the the sets, the reps. It was,
it's all kind of just like it was, just going in.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Not with a lot of you're just in the motions.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. So I'm excited to get
dialed back in.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Okay, And that's still that's still okay, it is. I
mean it's fucked dude, Like a period of you were
consistent with it. That's that's the point. Doesn't mean you
had to be fucking balls out, but you you are
consistent with it. You didn't really have like a goal
of such but maintenance.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
I mean, yeah, exactly, I didn't have goals. I didn't
have body goals.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Making sure you're still strong enough to.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Run, Yes, exactly. My lifting was to compliment my running,
which is why a lot of time it was one
to two days a week. Sometimes I didn't even lift
at all in a week, you know, And that's okay, Yeah,
but right I'm excited about the idea of the process,
you know. So like my first lift, you know, the
other day, I just did some some nice pause squats
three by five pall squats, nice and easy building, Like

(40:49):
That's what I'm going to be doing for the remainder
of this year because my fifty K is in December.
So I'm not going to be like powerlifting right now.
I'm not introducing that while training for my endurance that's
for this ultra marathon. That's yeah. No, you need to
be realistic with this so I can slowly build my
strength up, build up the stimulus in my body because
power lifting is very hard on your body. So I

(41:11):
need to get my body used to that type of
training again. And after my fifty K then I'll evaluate.
But I know after that that'll be kind of like
I can get more dialed in with with more specific
powerlifting and more hybrid type training with running and powerlifting essentially.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
So the goal is fast and strong by by age
forty a new decade, right, Yeah, I love that, Matt. Yeah, fast, strong,
feeling good. Yeah. I've been trying to think of a
like a clever.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
I've been trying to think of something like what can
I what can I call it? I let boy.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
For reals.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Yeah, And so it's all about the process, enjoying the
process again.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
It is, man, I'm just even looking back of like
when I first started running and I compared, I was
always trying to like be as fast as the people
that were fucking running since they were like in high school.
You know, It's like, oh my god, I gotta get
this minute mile. It's like, as soon as I started focusing,
I'm getting a specific minute a mile. That's when I
started to hate the sport. And that's when I started

(42:20):
running by myself. And finally I was like, you know what,
you just need to run to run and stop thinking
about a number. And that's when everything got better, I
swear it, and like changed everything when I stopped focusing on
the numbers of the sport of running. Yeah, I started
to enjoy it. I'm like, Okay, this is so much better.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
And I hear that a whole time with runners, like oh,
I'm a slow runner. I'm running fifteen minutes. I'm a
slow runner. I'm not as fast as you. I'm not
as fast as the ax Like.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yeah, so much comparison.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Stop it.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Runnings hard in general, Yeah, I mean ad speed to it.
It's another level.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Running is for me, and powerlifting used to be for
me too, right, So like that's the thing, Like I
didn't do it for it. And that's also what I
loved about powerlifting. It's you and the box. Yeah, can
you go pick this heavy thing up?

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Or day?

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yes? Right?

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Can you do it? Yes or no? And so when
I started getting into the competition aspect of it and
the numbers got involved, is like that's when I lost
that enjoyment a little bit, right, So the process and
just pushing myself physically, mentally and honestly just having the structure. Right.
So this week I've been looking up my old powerlifting

(43:24):
workouts because I worked with a powerlifting coach back then. Yeah,
so I've got years of data to look at nice
and that's been getting me off fucking invigorated and excited
and pumped up again. And I was lifting four days
a week back then, so that's totally realistic, totally doable.
So yeah, I was thinking too, and I taught myself
doing this the comparison thing this weekend actually, so I

(43:45):
got I've got a twenty five k this coming up
weekend ye May. I'm running a twenty five k, And
I wanted to run this race last year, but for
one reason or another, I couldn't. I can't remember why,
just I think timing calendar commitments. But I'm doing it
this weekend, twenty five k for ships and gigs. I
looked up last year's finishers. How fast were people are
running it? You know, because they give they give medals

(44:07):
and they group metals. Right, yeah, well let's say my
age group. And then they were fast as fuck too,
right the age group. And it's like, for a brief moment,
I was like, damn, I can't do that. But I
was like, wait a second, why am I doing this?
Why am I?

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Like? So, you've never done one before? Many compared to right?

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Nothing to compare it to right? And I'm going into
this with just being it's a training run for me,
just to get the experience and just to get a
good training run. So like why, like just us as
humans tend to do this?

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Yeah's crazy, right, yes, Like I mean this, this would
be a pr because this is all you know, all
you've done.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Yeah right, Yeah, so if.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
You do if you do it again, then you can
try to Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Well, because this is a stepping stone for me for
because I'm doing a fifty k in December, so like, yeah,
I'm doing a twenty five k as a training run
and I'm using it to practice my pacing, practice my
feeling and everything like that. Yeah, I know the course
really well. Is that my favorite park I actually hiked? Yeah,
it's the same I took you to this for the
first ever meet and greet we did at that park,
Oak Openings, that's where the twenty five k is. It's

(45:16):
called the Oak Opening Nightdeed. So they have a sixteen
mile hiking trail there that goes over the park and
I did that regularly as part of my killing training
for hiking. So I've hiked it before, but I've never
ran the full thing. So I'm excited for that, okay,
so I know what to expect for that. So yeah, okay, yeah,
and I was because I do like to think about

(45:36):
future stuff too. There's a chance that I do do
a powerlifting competition again in the future. I've talked about that, Liz.
Since I'll be forty next year. That puts me in
the master's division.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
But I want to be competing. So when I did
my competition in twenty and twenty two, huh, that would
have put me what thirty six years old? I was
competing with pe that were in high school, with kids
that were in high school. Oh my god, right, because
you take off of weight groups up until got it okay,
So and those kids smoked me, right, and I didn't

(46:11):
care like about that. But yeah, be able to compete
with people in my own age group.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Too, okay, that's cool. Yeah, for sure, A little bit more.
I feel like that would be a little bit more enjoyable,
to be honest.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Yes, yeah, I mean I want to compete with people
some gray hair, you know.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
So yeah, I mean I'm excited and and I can
feel that fire within me getting getting reignited. Yeah, that's
cool to have that that mentality, and because it is
a mentality, it is a mindsetowerlifting and just getting really strong.
And I remember what that was like. And I not obsessed,
but like obsessed with getting strong. I was, Yeah, because

(46:52):
I loved how strong feels. I love how good, how
good strong feels right awesome, looking, amazing. Doing with your
body is bad ass.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Yeah, knowing that there's not there's nothing out there that
really you can't do because you have a capable body.
And I've got somebody now, but it's just a type
of like different For the last few years.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
I just think about how we hiked Katada and how
strong you have to me to hike that mountain and
what it like, literally like every step is a lunge
and you're literally pulling yourself up, fucking pull up. It's
inverted rows, all kinds of shit, you know. It's really
it's incredible when you realize what your body can do
going up that mountain.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
When you think back on it, Yep, I agree with
you there, Yeah, I mean you we said when we
did our post kata An episode you need to have
a strong body.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Mm hmm. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
So getting I'm excited to get redealed in and and
I'm excited to get my lifting toys out again, right, Yeah.
I use my my wraps, my chalk. I'm looking forward
to getting into the gym and getting covered in chalk.
I even use like smelling salts back in the day.
I don't know about get that extreme again. Maybe maybe not,
but I'm excited again. Yeah, that's what matters, That's what matpens. Yeah. So,

(48:09):
speaking of hiking, Caitaden shout out here to somebody in
our Facebook group, Lori Huffman. She posted about her her
hike she did in Canada that looked incredible, the Burgess
Shale fossil beds. He says, she's fifty three years old.
She decided to get her life back so I could
do stuff like this. We can all do hard things.
Find your goal and goal get it. She used to

(48:30):
be three hundred pounds at five foot four. Wow, And
so she's lost weight, she's gotten strong as fuck, and
she's doing really hard things, hiking ten thousand foot in
elevation of that altitude. Amazing glory right there for doing
that fast thing. So yeah, our goals are shifting, evolving

(48:50):
as we evolve, you know, And that's okay, like it
should be well, we're just growing, I don't, you know.
I think that's one of those things like we can
just get complacent, you know. Yeah, And I was complacent
with my lifting there for a while, you know, and
while running took the running was my thing, you know,
and it still is my thing. But there is room
for both. So that's my next challenge is to incorporate both. Yeah,

(49:14):
you can do it, absolutely, absolutely you can do it.
And I'm excited to do it, looking forward to it.
So I got my twenty five k and this weekend
fifty k in December. Yeah, I got it really good.
I had a really good run in this morning.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
I had a because I'm deloading this week, but I
still did a speed workout today and I ran super
fast today. I did a little interval workout. Yeah, six
hundreds and two hundreds, so that's about point three seven miles.
I did four sets of that at a six minute
and thirty second pace. And then I did four sets

(49:50):
of two hundreds, which is a little over of a mile. Wow,
at a five minute and forty five second pace.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
I crushed my speed workout today. Yeah, I'm really like,
I'm feeling really good about that and it was hard, right,
But yeah, that's why we do That's why we do
hard things because exactly exactly and how rewarding it feels afterwards,
and exactly why. Like, I'm really fired up about powerlifting
again because it's fucking hard and I know how hard
it is, and I know what it takes, and I

(50:20):
know how rewarding it is to pick a heavy thing
up one time and put it back down. Hell yeah,
hell yeah, let's see I on my long run too.
I posted this on my story too. Over the weekend,
I did a lot of yard work on Saturday. That
would be typically a typical Saturday over the summertime a
few years ago would be yard work and then relaxed

(50:42):
with like a bourbon or a class of whisker or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Yeah, but that's not me anymore.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
And that's one thing actually that I'm really looking forward
to with powerlifting, if I'm being completely honest, is I
was still a moderate drinker when I was powerlifting, and
my recovery suffered as a result of that. My sleep
wasn't great there. So I'm really excited to see what
I can do with powerlifting and getting really strong without
having alcohol in my life without having those stressors like that, right, yeah,

(51:11):
because alcohols with your recovery and.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
So yeah, so I didn't.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
I had had my serenity gummies Saturday nights after a
long day of yard work, and I was super chill
Saturday nights after I got my nice cold shower, got
my gummies and I just sunk into the couch and
it was the best feeling ever.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
It was just yeah, relaxing, time to watch. I watched
a few movies this weekend.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Did you what did you get into? Well, actually watching
any movies.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
I watched two documentaries.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Watched that catfishing one, right, I did.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
But I already knew who did it, and that fucking
ruined it. I hate that about social media, but it
was really fucking crazy, like fuck it, like that lady
is whacked and there is no reasoning for what she did.
That was I don't even that's so fucking weird. She
neese therapy. And then I watched the Katrina documentary, which

(52:09):
I never watched before, which is like like bah, yeah, dude,
how I did not realize honestly because this was in
two thousand, right, twenty five years ago, I think five.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
I think wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Okay, so it was twenty years ago, years ago. That
was like not a good time in my life most likely,
you know, fucking drinking and you know, not really paying
attention to shit, right, just seeing like how fucking like
that was horrible?

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Yeah, for sure it was. I knew it was bad,
but I didn't realize like how bad.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
That's that's what it was.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Yeah, how people were being treated and all that.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Oh, like in the fucking dome and shit, yeah, are
you kidding me? Yeah, it was well what chaos? Oh
my god, those poor people.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Mm hmm yeah yeah, yeah for sure. Okay, quick shout
out too for our patreon. We've always got our patreon available,
but so much so much fun doing our patreon and
and then the community that's growing behind it, right like
our know, right, people are sharing just all kinds of
cool stuff in our Facebook group coming off of the Patreon,

(53:25):
like Lori is in the Facebook group, you know. So
it's just really cool to see and like the workouts
are a little bit different for the patreon this month
made a few changes. We don't make a lot of
changes from month to month, but I took like push
ups out for our for our home workouts. Amy was
excited for that, but of course I saw that in
other ways. I put in a sled some sled work

(53:46):
for our for our gym workouts. Nice, So that's fun too.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
So so some some different changes in there for the patreon.
So yeah, so shout outs to the patreon. If you
need some help with workout, need a little push with
some challenges or some recipe ideas, our patreon is always
there to support you. All Right, It's been a great talk,
I think.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Yeah, yeah, I think it is what it is at
this point.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
We can't go back and change it.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
I don't know. I liked it. Yeah, I guess you
guys can let us know what you thought, what you
think and if you have any questions, yes, yeah.

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