217 - Is Peanut Butter A Protein Source? - Cut The Crap With Beth And Matt

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (01:04):
I wanted to switch it up, mad.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Nerdle, throw me for a throw a curveball at Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
What's up Monday, Yes, Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Week up to today. I know we've been some busy bitches.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
I think it's been fucking crazy. Yeah, admittedly for sure
trying to take over here.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
I mean, Monday was such such a weird not a
weird day, but I feel like I just lost a
day on Monday. I was I did some things, but like,
Monday was a very Monday type of day.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
It was, Matt, I let me, can I just tell
you about my start of my Monday, which the night
before I was like, wow, tomorrow is the first day
in a very long time that I don't have a
workout planned. Johnny doesn't have to be at school, so
that means I don't have to like get up, I
don't have to make breakfast for lunch or get anyone anywhere.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Right and around yeah, around six or.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Seven, I don't know. It was early in the morning.
I get a Instagram DM and Kitty Bloomfield. I forgot
that I had booked a podcast with her at eight
in the morning. She's in Australia, and so she was
sending me this. She was sending me the zoom link, and.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
I was like, oh my god, my life.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
I have a fucking podcast to report at eight this morning. Yeah, okay,
you that just ruined my vibe.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
When you weren't planning for it, right.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, I'm excited that I was excited to podcast with her,
that's you know what I'm saying. But it was the
fact that I didn't think I had anything going on
in that I had an open morning.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
That happens, right, like, oh, yes, I have the day,
I'm not going to have anything.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, because mentally you're in another place and that you
know your mental state, it is very important when it
comes to decisions and all kinds of things, you guys, right,
and so it just really set me off and like
my old day was definitely not relaxing after that.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Mm hmmm, I hear you. That sucks. I did see
you had a podcast with her. How did it go good?

Speaker 3 (03:17):
It was good? Yeah, it was really good.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Did you did you bounce back? Did you have a good,
good day after that?

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Well?

Speaker 1 (03:21):
I just I did random work stuff which I didn't
really want to do, end up making more of a
work day than I was going to be actually trying
to take.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
The day off, you know, So got it?

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yeah, threw yourself through a loop there, threw yourself.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, did you forget that? I was just gonna put
it on your calendar or oh it was.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
My calendar, but I didn't look I see I did.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
I almost did something like that today. I mixed up today.
So today, as we're recording for everybody listening, we record
on Wednesdays, so it's Wednesday. I was looking, yeah, my
night or my day ahead of me to last night,
and I accidentally looked at Thursday.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Instead of Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
So I thought I had a much heavier day today
than I originally anticipated because usually Thursdays are like my.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Really really busy day, got it.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
So I was anticipating a really busy day here today,
but thankfully it's been a little bit more chill.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
So and then tomorrow is your busy day. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
I don't usually schedule things on Monday, and that was
the reason I was shocked, because I don't usually put
things on that day specifically. But I made an whatever
you want to call it, an exception because she's in
Australia and I, you know, you have to write, yeah,
so be respectful of like the time and stuff.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Got to work around that.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Yeah, I've had a couple of clients in Australia and
New Zealand a couple in the past, and I think
they're like sixteen hours ahead of us, so it definitely
makes scheduling things a little bit more difficult.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah yeah, yep, okay, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
So that aside, How are things going with you?

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Good? Just trug trudging along. We got our photos back.
So I made a little post today.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
I haven't like shown all the photos, but I showed
a majority of you know, the ones with the girls,
so that was fun nice.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Okay, I saw a couple on your stories, but I
don't think i've seen the.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, I made a post of like so I I
kind of showed like the journey with Kelly, Amy and
Peggy and like there before is like from like when
we started this and then their photo like after kind
of thing. It was like a fun little post of
like our our year kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Cool.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yeah, yeah, I mean from what I've seen, the pictures
look great. You guys are fucking popping looking on like
you guys.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, super happy, good good. But now an improvement season
is upon us, is what Kelly calls it.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Improvement season, building season.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, yeah, improvements.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Off season really like it's ame Yeah, yeahs trains, yeah, games, train, yeah,
train right now too. It's feeling good. I'm feeling good
with it.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Nice. Nice.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
I love that being really intentional being like I said,
I think last week how annoying it is trying to
get protein, right, and it still is. I'm getting, you know,
I'm getting I'm adjusting again to to prioritizing protein in
the way.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
That you have in the past. You know, it's not
easy to get one hundred amost two intergrams of protein
a day.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah, you know, so, yeah, embracing the gains. And yeah,
with my strength training, I'm in week four now of
being really intentional with like building up my strength foundations again,
and my strength is like just really improving and flying along.
And I kind of expected that, you know, like when

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if you've had muscle in the past, you've had strength
in the past, it's a lot easier to get back
to that place again, right, Those gains come back to
you really really quickly. My strength right now is increasing
pretty quickly, pretty dramatically, but it's not always going to
be that way, right, So yeah, I'm looking forward to
seeing how that kind of levels off here in the
coming months.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Awesome, I love that feeling good.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
That's how I feel in the gym too, just fucking
crushing the gym, feeling super strong. What's funny about like,
I don't know if we talked about this, we might
have when we were talking about string training, but so
I did take a video of this too, because I
think it's important for people to understand, is that, like
you might get a PR like one week, and then
the next week you might go back to where you
were before the PR, which happened to me right. I

(07:30):
was like, oh, I'm going to try to get fucking
ten forties, right, and I was only able to this
time get forty by eight when last week I got
forty by nine. But this doesn't mean that you're not progressing.
This is just part of it, right. It's kind of
like the scale, like the scale.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
A little bit. Yeah, it's exactly what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
It's like you may feel like it could be because
you know, maybe your sleep was weird, like off a
little bit, maybe you weren't as fueled as much as
you were the last workout. It could be just a
plethora of things. But it doesn't mean that you're weak
or that you're like losing strength and I think people
think that sometimes.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
Yeah, so we were talking about progressive overload allot. Yeah,
you and myself both especially on our stories and our content,
we're posting how we're making progress with our lifts.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Right.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
I have been making great progress with a lot of
my lifts, all my lifts, I've been making great progress.
But there's going to be a time where I'm not
increasing the weight every time there's going and you're you're
exactly right. You could be doing everything right with your
strength training, and then one day, one week, maybe even
all your workouts are just suck. You're gonna go back
and wait, you're gonna do less.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Right, Like, what the fuck happened? Right? Like what's going
on here? Bitch?

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Like I call it a heavy gravity day? Like o's
just a heavy gravity day?

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Like I can't you know, sometimes you can pinpoint why
your workouts weren't as good, and you're not you didn't
lift as much or as many reps.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
But some of theTimes, it's just that's the.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
Reality of it, and like you can be doing everything right, yeah,
but you still don't see that progress being made forward
in that week or with that workout.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
And that's really strength training is women I believe when
I say lift heavy shit, or you need to be
just continuously lifting heavy, that does not mean that you're
picking up a new weight every week, you know, like
like I'd be at like eight hundred pounds by now
if that was the case, Like some of my lift can't.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
You can't increase your weight every single wey at some.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Point, no, like with lot raises, Like it is very
hard to progress in the lot raises. And I've been
strength training for a fucking decade. I mean, it could
be anywhere depending on the rep ranges. It could be
anywhere from ten to fifteen pounds, you know, mostly in
the middle of like twelve, But it really just depends.
Even with bicep curls, I'm finally not finally graduating to

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the fucking twenties, okay, I am now using twenties after
years of viewing doing fifteens and seventeen pounds, Like I'm like,
oh my god, I was thinking I would never ever
be able to lift twenty pounds bicep curls.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
But I am able to now, which to me is
fucking insane.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
So it's like with strength strength, just like with weight loss,
the longer you're doing it. The longer you're in it,
the slower the progress becomes, and the harder it becomes
to make it.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah. Yes, that's why newbie gains.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
That's why if you're new to the gym, you're gonna
see strength gains and muscle gains.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Quicker than me for six or twelve months possibly.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Oh yeah, that's like you don't want to wait on
that strength training. Like if you're trying to lose stock,
get in the fucking gym, you're going to see those
newbie gains and you need to preserve that muscle and
add add some on while you're doing it.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, that's really important.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
I think the thing that we can spend a few
minutes more a few more minutes talking about here is
how that progress is not linear.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
And that's in so many different ways.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Right, we see the most common with weight loss, And
that's one thing we try to drill into our clients,
to our listeners, to people on social media is like,
weight loss isn't going to be in a perfectly linear
line going straight down, right, It's going to go up,
it's going to go down, it's going to stay the
same for a while.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
It's all normal.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
That's all totally. Okay, it's all part of the process.
And so just like with strength training then especially it's
the same way too. You can't you're not gonna be
able to increase your weight forever. You're you know, you're
not gonna be able to just increase your reps forever.
Sometimes you're gonna have to take a step back. Sometimes
maybe you're gon have to deload, take a little break, right,
Let your body take a little week or two break dload,
just like we talk about with like a die break

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with nutrition and fat loss. Take a deload week in
the gym, come back stronger, more.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Focused, and things like that.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
So, yeah, progress with weight loss, with strength training, building muscle.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah, the cardio, like like let's say walking, for instance,
walking maybe somebody's cardio right now, yep, right, but walking
is not my cardio, dame, it is. I'd have to
walk super fast.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
At a very moderate pace for it to be zone too.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
For you have to be doing like they're doing those speeds.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, so like you know, but you may be just
starting with like walking and you're you've never been to
a walker, I've done much exercise in walking is your
cardio right now?

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
You know, it's like we the stronger we get.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Like walking obviously is exercise, but it's a different form
of exercise, right, Like.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
I went on a walk today.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
I I'm as scheduled to get a run actually in today,
but I went for a walk instead this morning. I'm
going to try to squeeze a run in later, but
I might not get it in. But that walk for
me today wasn't necessarily exercise. That was just me moving
because I wanted to move my body and I needed
to move my body needed a walk, and also because
I just needed it for like to get me, give
me in the zone, get me focused, and improve my

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energy a little bit. Yeah, But for me, like my
heart rate barely probably even when I didn't have my
heart rate track her on, but it was probably nine.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Like right, like less than one hundred beats permitted, less.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Than one hundred, you know. Yeah, Whereas like if I'm
you know, my zone too is like up to one
hundred and fifty you know.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Zone one yea or some shit. It takes a lot
to get me there, right.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
So yeah, that progress is not linear, and that's why
it's really important to make to look at all forms
of making progress. You know with with progressive overload.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, the most common and basic, easiest way to make
progress with progressive overload is to increase your weight.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
But then there's all those other ways that we talked
about just a couple of weeks ago in this episode,
improving your form, your reps, your depth, your time under tension,
better control, more volume, whatever.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
It might be.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, I'm trying to get those hack squats' that's why
I have a mission with those things, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
I like, even this week, I was like, fuck, these
things are a fucking brutal man. I'm still I got
the two and a half pounds, but I was able
to do twelve reps instead of ten, and I was
able to do six more after that because it was
a rest pause. So my regular prescribed rep range was
eight to ten.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
I got to ten.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
But she's like, the last one go to failure, so
I got failure was twelve and then you pause for
thirty seconds and then you go to failure again.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
It was I was able to get six, which I
was impressed.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, So to me, that's a fucking dude in those
programming that's been every fucking exercise has been a rest pause,
fucking Kelly bitch, I love you, but oh my.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
God, to progressively overload.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, and that's that's happening.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
It's like doing that with the leg press and single
leg extensions and I'm getting my ass kicked.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
I'm feeling super strong.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah. I fucking love pushing heavyweight. I'm just so happy to.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Be doing it again. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yeah, So you've been doing crushing your hack squats for
for me for my my leg my leg progress squat progress.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
As I've been doing pau squats.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
So I just finished up week four of doing my
my pause squats and I'm gonna do one more week
of them and then I'm going to rotate them out
for for a cycle. I'm gonna take them out and
then I'm gonna do front squats for for a block,
and then after that I'll probably do like just a
regular back squad to see where my back squat's that
after building up with my my paw squat, my front squat.

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So I'm really looking forward to that. But my hack
squad over the past month, I think I started because
that first one that the first workout that I did
a month ago, Yeah, was like, Okay, let's see where
I'm at. Let's just throw some weight to weight on
the bar. Let's do some sets of five and see
how that feels, and work up, work up to some weight.
I think what I did was I worked up to

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like one sixty five one seventy five for sets of
five a month ago. But then I jumped up to
you know, I added ten pounds on, then twenty pounds on.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
You know.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
Now, just yesterday I did pau squats for two hundred
and twenty five pounds first sets of two sets of three,
I think is what I did yesterday. So over the
course of the month, I added you know, forty plus
pounds onto my my paw squat. Yeah, that's not realistic
to do long term. I'm not going to continue to
do that right now. I'm just getting back my strength
and building my foundations back up, So at some point

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that's gonna be the limiting factor. But that's also why
then I'm rotating out my squad movement pattern. I'm still
doing a squat movement pattern right just not doing the
paw squad. I'm gonna go to a front squad instead.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yeah, I'm still swatting. I'm still sticking to the foundations
just doing a different variation.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
I think that's what we really need people to understand too,
is like squatting is always going to be part of
your programming, but the way you're squad variations, Yeah, the
way you're doing all these movements, there's gonna your hack squat.
You could be doing a back squad, front squad, box squat,
pop squat, whatever, but.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
You still to be doing some type of a squat. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
I'm excited for it, dude. I uh, I want to
say too. Riker has been doing legs with me for
two weeks now. So Riker and I are on week
three or the week two or week three of really
of him pushing it and joining it back up in
the gym with me, and he is embracing legs for
the first time since he started really kind of lifting
with me.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
And he's loving it. And he's he's getting strong too.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
So we're working on a squat farm, trying to get
him to get a little bit deeper.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
In his in his uh squat right now.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
But he's he's getting strong, he's embracing in that first
leg day that we did a couple of weeks ago,
it literally left him unable to walk for like almost
a full week. He's like, and I'm like, Okay, it's
time to do legs again.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
He's like, but I'm still sore. I'm like, oh, that's
the only.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
He experienced to fucking barely be able to sit on
the toilet like experience.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Five days later, I'm still sore.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
What do you mean? You have to have one of
those always.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
The only way through it is through it.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
And that's one thing people too, is like, oh, I
get so sore when I do legs, So I'm just
not gonna.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
I'm gonna.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
That's why you're chronically getting sores, because you're not being consistent.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
With it exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
You gotta make that you make your body adapt and
and force that stimulus. Yeah, otherwise, if you're doing it
half ass, you're doing it half the time, you're you're
skipping weeks of doing it. Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna
constantly feel sore and fatigued and wonder why you're so
damn sore.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, you're not doing it consistently exactly.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
I don't get a sore as that used to do
anymore at all at all. I mean, my legs might
feel a little heavy.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Like on my Sunday run day with Mandy, both our
legs were heavy from our Friday, our Friday fucking heavy
leg day, and I was like, I'm like, my fucking
legs feel like they're in quicksand She's like, so am I,
And it's like, hey, you know, it's just.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
That's my current struggle right now is really I'm getting
down a good routine, but like balancing doing leg training
with all the running I'm doing.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
Because I'm doing five days a week of running now
forty miles a week, you know, I'm finding the balance
and it's fun to find that balance and that splits
that work. What I'm doing is less, I'm doing less legs,
but I'm doing it with more intensity.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Like last day.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Last week, I literally my leg day was just squats
and leg press.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
That was it.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
But you know what I did with my squots and
like my leg press, I pushed myself really, really fucking
hard with those two movements.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
And actually my leg press yesterday.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
I don't know if you saw my Instagram story, but
I failed my leg press yesterday.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
No I didn't. I might have seen it, but I
didn't see it.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Me and riker.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
After doing squats yesterday, we moved over to leg press
and I added on an additional fifty pounds to my
leg press from last week. And I did what was
it last week, like six hundred fifty pounds or something.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
I did it for a set of five.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
So we added And the reason why we added fifty
pounds onto it this week was because we put twenty
fives on each side for a riker, and I didn't
want to strip down and keep stripping down all the
plates after each sets to get to his. So I
just kept out there. Was like, fuck it, I'm bumping
it up. See what I got. So I had seven
hundred pounds on the leg press. I haven't I haven't
like pressed that in a few years. So Jesus felt

(19:31):
really fucking good. Like you want to feel strong, go
leg press?

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
And as I'm as I'm as I'm loading up the weight,
Riker's helping me load up the weight. He's like, Okay,
what are you doing? He's like, and I'm like, well,
what did I do last week? So like, all right,
I did six fifty five reps last week.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
I was like, all right, I'm going for three. I'm
gonna get three on this He's like, you got five, Like,
here's my son pushing me again, right, like you got all? Right?
Fuck it, I'm doing five.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
Well, I got three, then I got four, and then
five came along and got about quarter of the way up.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Pause, frozen.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
I was grinding for a good three seconds, just trying,
like every ounce of my energy, body was tensed up
trying to push this weight wasn't bundy.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, so I didn't get ticked. I got four, which
is better than three. So yeah, yeah, and I failed.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
And I posted that because I think I want people,
First of all, I posted that because I want people
to understand that is what pushing yourself in the gym
looks like. What you've been doing with your hack squats
and what I've been doing with my my my paw
squats and my leg press and everything. And I think
you've you've posted some other videos of yourself getting really
close to failure. That is what it looks like to
push yourself.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
In the gym.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
If you're not getting really really close to failure like that,
like you can't do one more. And if you're not
getting to that point, you are leaving gains out.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
On the table.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
Yeah, I'm not saying you have to fail, but you
should know what failure feels like and what failure looks
like for you in terms of how much.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Wait that is.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
But then also like how to fail safely and properly
too as part of it.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh I should tell you you
guys about Johnny and his new experience at the gym.
So his trainer is going to California, or went to
California for a year, So Hybrid is short a personal trainer,
and so I've been working with Dusty and Hunter and
they thought that Johnny was now able to go into

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the Ultimate Results classes, which is private personal like semi
private personal training for a very small group, but it's
not just one on one, which was kind of frightening
to Johnny.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
He you know, he's he.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Liked the personal trainer, the one on one and you know,
just like the mentor type thing. So you know, he
was kind of like bummed about it. But I also said, so,
you know, is this something that you're going to want
to do. I'm really want you to continue strength training.
He's like, do you think I'm just gonna quit?

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Okay, all right?

Speaker 1 (22:01):
So he the classes are Tuesday, and Thursday same time
ish As is one on one, just like a thirty
minute difference, and so he went yesterday for the first
time and he fucking loved it. He's like, I crushed it.
I loved it. I did trap our deadlifts. And he
was telling me like how the exter, how everything was,
you know, run And in my mind, I'm like, yeah,
I used to teach these classes.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
I know how this works.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
So but I was cool that he had fun and
he stepped out of his comfort zone and he just
fucking did it. You know, he was a little bit
anxious about it, but he did it. Sure, So step
out of your comfort zone, guys.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
You know, yeah, if your children, our children can do it, you.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Know, I'm giving him the opportunity to and he's taking.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
It absolutely absolutely, kind of give him the opportunity.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yeah, last week on this podcast, I mentioned I want
to not call myself out here, but mentioned something I
mentioned last week.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
So I talked about how much I can jump. Last week.
I was like, I could probably jump thirty six or
three or four.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
Feet if I said last week, right, And I was like,
you know what I said it on podcast.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
I was like, I think I'm going to go test it.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
So I tested it the next day and I can
definitely do three feet, but four feet is out of
my realm right now. So that's something I'm going to
be prioritizing, as well as doing some more biometric work
to improve my jumping ability, which I'm really looking forward
to that challenge as well. I'm just throwing a bunch
of shit on there right now, but just really fine
because this is what I like this. This is the

(23:30):
type of training that I used to do. I used
to do pliometrics all the time. I used to do
metabolic conditioning, the slood pushes and pulls, tire flips and
all that shit. So right now with my strength is
strength training is just about really just finding finding the
enjoyment and having fun with it again yeah, before I
really dive into it next year. So yeah, you know,
jumping is one of those things like we we that's

(23:54):
a that's that's a really good sign of like our
our strength and our health and you know, is being
able to jump and just that general physical preparedness essentially,
and jumping is a super beneficial too for like our
overall health, for like bone density and and things like that.
Greening those micro stress fractures.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
So I had some fun doing some jumping last week.
I'm gonna do one one day of pliometrics, just a
little bit of jump work every week.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
On one of my non leg days and before my
long runs, because I will I will say I did
my pliometric with early in the morning Friday, and then
I did legs that night, and then I had to
run Saturday and Sunday. I did six miles on Saturday,
and then I had a seventeen mile long.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Run on Sunday. How was your seventeen It was good?
It was good.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
What going into it, I was my ankles and my
calves were really fatigued because of the jump the jumping
that I was doing a new thing that I added
to my routine, So my calves and my ankles were
pretty sore. So that was like. My seventeen mile er
was great. Like I crushed my fueling. I was really
intentional with that. I increased my carbs from sixty an

(25:05):
hour to seventy five an hour. Pacing was pretty good.
I just kind of take it to the next level
in terms of my pacing because I didn't have the
springiness in my legs because of my stiff ass ankles
and calves that day, but I powered through it, and
I mean, we can do hard things. And like I
was channeling. This is during when the MOAP two forty

(25:25):
was going on, So I was channeling my my inner
goggins and and everybody you know, digging, digging deep into.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
That cookie jar. So seventeen miler was good.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
I did half of it at like an easy conversational
pace and then I had some fun on the second
half of it with doing some more higher effort yeah
mile mile paces.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
So nice, yeah, yeah, good stuff. I've got to do
twenty three miles this weekend, putting it out there into
the uh, into the atmosphere. So I'm with with this
week I'm being more into with making sure I'm not
doing too much on my on my feet and my legs. Ye.
So but yeah, it was good.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
It was good, nice, nice mat uh huh m hm.
All right, So what is going on in social media
world these days? I hear you've been talking about fucking
peanut butter and protein and going down that fucking rabbit hole.
What was that? I got it?

Speaker 1 (26:24):
I got I said, you guys in that fucking peanut
butter rabbit hole. I gotta say, there's a lot of
nuance to that. I understand what you're saying, though, like like,
let's but let's get real here. That's like saying bread
is a fucking protein source. It's it has protein in it,
you know what I'm saying, And it adds to your
protein when you have a whole food protein source with it,
you know, just like peanut butter will add to my

(26:44):
protein when I eat it. I eat peanut butter all
the time, but I would never use peanut butter as
my main protein source. It's too much like my calories are.
So I think that, like there's so much nuance to that. Also,
eggs are are a shitty source of protein. I would
never say, like whole eggs or a right source of protein.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
I would never because most of the protein is in
the egg white. I mean, if you just you know,
if you get egg whites without the yolk, but.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Then you're if you take then you're then you're missing
out in nutrition from the egg yolk.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Then you get your fats from somewhere else. Sure, I'm
just I'm just saying that.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
That's like egg is eggs are one of the most
efficient protein sources we have because pretty much one hundred
percent of egg gets used by our body, so it's
super super efficient. But it is a fat source still
at the end of the day. So egg is widely
considered generally considered to be a protein source.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
I would never consider it to be.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Why, And like salmon and cheese and rabbi.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
I would never consider salmon or she used to be
a protein source either.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
It's person dependent, you know.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Yeah, and gold dependent too.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
Like like I was saying, if your goal is fat loss,
and you're on a low calorie diet, yeah, you're not
gonna have much room for for for peanut butter, you know.
But like I can think of like a client that
I'm working with right now. We're looking at her. She
we were looking at her breakfast's pretty common breakfast. She
was having eggs, toast and fruit, okay, but it was

(28:21):
only like two eggs, not enough protein. So what we
did we took the bread she was using and replaced
it with a higher protein bread, and then we added
some peanut butter onto it as well for the additional
protein and for the fat, the fat of course. So yeah,
I'm just really I'm fed up with hearing how prote

(28:45):
or peanut butter is a shitty protein source, I personally
think because it because it lacks it lacks the nuance.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
It has protein in it, but it's a shitty main source.
If you're using it as your main fucking source of
protein for your plate, that's a shitty source of protein
if you ask right.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
But it still is a protein source.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah, I mean it has protein in it. That's like
saying bread is a protein source. It has protein in it.
It's a fucking carb source of protein in it.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Like what I'm saying, do you.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Increase their protein? What do we look at? Usually we
look at the bread that there have.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
I would look at their whole food protein source first
and say where's that? And then I would add to that.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Sure, Yeah, like it's the d diet overall, it's not
any one food. And that's also what they like in
these conversations a lot of the time.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yeah. But and also if you're a vegan, you know,
peanut butter may be a better proteins first few obviously
because you cannot have anything else.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
But so we're probably we're providing good nuance here, and
that's that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
There is nuance doesn't have.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
But I also understand, because I've said it, peanut butter
is a shitty source approtein for most most people.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
And I still stand by that.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
I don't care like I I personally because I would
not use it as a main source of protein, even
though I eat it every day.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
It's added into my protein.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
But I don't go looking at peanut butter and be like, Yep,
that's gonna be my protein source today. I think what
can I have as my main protein source and what
can I add to get more on there for the day?

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Sure, absolutely, you know that's person dependent rights.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
And also like think about like you're a runner, you
have your very fucking you know that's a source that
you need, like ultrarunners, like anybody that's an endurance racer.
You know, peanut butters are a really good fuel source.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
So why.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
At the end of the day.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
That's why I say, like, we need to provide nuance
and we can't just I I guess my my frustration
is I am just super fed up with the fitness
industry and how the rigid it is and the black
and white fucking thinking that we're supposed to be helping
our clients through. But yet we're applying arbitrary rules, like

(30:53):
we're making up rules for what's a good protein source
or not. Like let's be like, like, let's be honest here,
there is no criteria other than what the FDA is
given us. And by the FDA definition, it actually peanut
butter is a good protein source. So we're making up
arbitrary rules, but then we're we're not universally applying them
across the board either.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Well, everything's individual, right, but nutrition is not a one
size fits all.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yes, right, I agree with it.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
So, like I said, like, if you are on a
fat loss journey and we're working together, most likely are
women in your forties and fifties, and your maybe your
caloric amount is not that much, Like I would not
suggest peanut butter as your protein source. So do you
know what I'm saying, Like we have to think about
the individual as a whole and in that aspect, And

(31:39):
I'm usually working with women during fat loss phases, and
that is usually one of the things is like they
don't understand how much peanut butter they are consuming and
they're using it as a main protein source.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
It's all education too, absolutely, And so you know.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
I just know, like the clients that I work with,
almost all of them probably eat a peanut butter and
jelly daily. Yeah, they're still getting protein and they're still
hitting their calories. So it's like again, because they're not
using it as a primary proteins, but they are using
it as a way to get more protein in a
way that tastes really fucking good, you know, And because

(32:15):
that that, it adds that enjoyment factor.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah, it's just the awareness. I mean, I have it,
like I said, twice a day, sometimes three times a day.
I fucking peanut butter all the time.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
I love it like you do. I just have to
be super mindful of it, right yep, me, I don't
need to be. It doesn't give a fuck, eat like
a fucking gallon of peanut butter a.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Day, But aren't part of my shan't not do that?

Speaker 3 (32:37):
It would be good for me.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
And I think too is And I'm getting about a
lot of backlash of this, and right, I expected backlash
when I when I started talking about this, especially on
threads and Facebook, but like people keep talking about it
in the context of weight loss. I'm like, guys, not
everybody wants to fucking lose weight, So stop applying weight
loss to every conversation, especially if that's.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Not what we're talking about here. You know, I'm like,
I don't want to lose weight. I don't want to
lose fat.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
So like, for me, I had a peanut butter and
jelly instead of a protein shake, Like, what are you
gonna do?

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Come at me?

Speaker 4 (33:08):
You know, like that was a good protein source for me.
And it's really crazy to me how I can sit
like I say, like, hey, I had a peanut butter
and jelly that gave me thirty thirty seven grams of protein.
This is how black and white the fitness industry is.
Is they hear me say I had thirty seven grams
of protein from a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, and
they're like, you would have had you have eaten one

(33:29):
thousand calories of peanut butter.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Fucking idiot.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
I didn't say I ate thirty seven grams of protein
but from fucking peanut butter. Yeah, I had fucking whole
grain bread. You know, I had a clay That's what
I'm saying, Yeah, fucking meal. Like that's my point is like.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yes, Matt, I understand that.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah, yeah, And it's like.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Just I don't mean to interrupt you, but really quickly,
when I did that eat a fucking Sandwich video and
I said this, this sandwich can give you thirty eight
grams of protein, right, that doesn't mean it's all coming
from the meat. They're like, how the fuck did you
get thirty eight grams of turkey on there? And I
was like, well, because the cheese gave me eight grams
and then the bread gave me another five. But that
that's like, I know what you're saying in that aspect,

(34:09):
because people don't understand nutrition, and that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
It really is education, yes, I think, and I think
that's why people are so confused about like these things
in peanut butter, because we're so black and white as
an industry, not saying we are, but like the industry
as a whole, because they don't provide that education, the
context that naturally fucking matters and helps people. That's right,
of protein from peanut butter jelly sandwich. That was way

(34:35):
too much faster.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Thinking oh, yeah, bread has protein in it. I guess
you know, I.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
Probably I fucking white pieces, like a white white bread.
I'm eating a whole grain bread that has six grams
of protein per slice. I'm having a glass of vitamin
D milk that has thirteen grams of protein, right, Like,
I'm eating a nutritious, balanced meal, and that's where everything
works together. Like nutrition isn't just one fucking ingredient one fred,

(35:02):
it's our dietary habits and patterns as a whole that
provide us the results and get us there, which you,
of course, I know you agree with that, and.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
That's what you're saying too.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah, oh yeah, but like you said, you.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
Just look at my threads comments and people are like,
that's a thousand calories worth a protein a peanut butter
that you just date.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Dude, are you fucking kidding me?

Speaker 4 (35:22):
And I'm like, first of all, no, I just told
you I had two servings of peanut butter, and I
broke down the math for one guy. I'm like, two
servings of peanut butter three hundred eighty calories, two pieces
of bread two hundred and forty calories, six grams of
protein each, one glass of milk one hundred and twenty
calories with thirteen grams of protein. I'm like, there's the
math that's not eleven hundred calories for peanut butter and
jelly sandwich.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
That was like seven hundred calories, you asshole.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
You know, like, pay attention to what I'm saying and
stop trying to make stop seeing things that I'm.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Not actually saying essentially, right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
Because their brains can't comprehend like the nuance and then
all the in between things.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yeah, And it's usually always almost always the fucking bodybuilders
and the people that are all walking around constantly shreddit
like I hate to talk, says to say that, but
like the patterns present themselves to me. Yeah, the same
type of person that has always given me shit about
the things that I'm saying. I'm like, have you guys
never worked with real clients because of the real conversations
that that I'm having with my clients every single day.

(36:23):
I'm not here to make friends with all these other
coaches on threads and and things like that, right, I'm
here to help people, and the peanut butter conversation is
one that I have routine league with my clients.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
And not that's the fuck around with peanut butter, guys.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
No, don't fucking come from Peena.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Don't fuck with this peanut butter Okay, number one, defend
peanut butter to the graves.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Okay, I will. We love our peanut butter.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
I do f your team peeb around here, Peeb, but
I agree peanut. I want to Peanut butter is not
a good primary protein source. Absolutely, it can be, keyword,
can be a good protein source, dependent on you and
your goals. Yes, that that is where like the conversation

(37:10):
ends and begins, and that because there's context and nuance
there that that's really.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
It's also like me saying that that protein oatmeal that
is like marketed as high protein oatmeal is a protein source.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Like do you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Or that like fucking Kodiac cake pancakes are a great
source of protein. No, they have, They do have a
good amount of protein in them. Yeah, but you need
to add to that, like to have a bigger source
of protein for your breakfast. And that's what we're seeing
is like thirteen grams of protein for breakfast because codiac
cake pancakes have protein in them, and we need to
teach you that, yes, they do a protein it's mainly

(37:44):
a carb source, so you need to add some more
protein to up that protein.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
MM hmm.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
It's just really reading labels and educating. Yep.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Totally totally add some protein or some peanut butter to
those fucking Codiat cake pancakes.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Okay, yeah, because you know what I would.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
Now we're talking about peanut butter, I'm gonna I'm going
to repost my my last peanut butter and jelly video
that I did a couple of months ago that really
pissed people off. So because that one had like forty
grams of protein and bodybuilders lost their fucking.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Shit, like what do you mean?

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Oh my god? Really?

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yeah, So I'm gonna repost that one. We'll see what happens.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
That's so funny.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, I just want people to stop thinking black and
white and absolutes.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Mm hmmmm yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
And because I know because that I did receive a
comment too, and I want to shout this comment out.
I received a really awesome comment on my.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Thread about.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
The peanut butter thing yesterday, And this is exactly who
who I'm making the content for and when I'm saying
these things again, because I'm not making you and I
bet we're not here making content for other coaches. We're
not seeing the foundation from other fuck other coaches. I'm
not here to make friends with other coaches. I'm not
here to beat buddy buddy and rub elbows and kiss
their asses.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
No, that's not why year to do.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Okay, So somebody comment on my thread that said, I
really wish I had seen content like this ten years ago.
I truly think my battles with my weight wouldn't have
been so severe due to my all or nothing thinking.
Due to the content I was exposed to, I could
have just been enjoying things like That's why I'm saying
these things about peanut butter can be a good protein source,

(39:22):
and it's not one or the other.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
It can be both a protein and a fat source.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
Yeah, people like Monigator twenty seven that left me that
nice comment, you know which, By the way, she's a
new listener of ours, so she's listening right now. Shout
out because she said she was going to start listening
to our podcast after that interaction.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Oh that's cool. Nice winning hashtag.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Shout outs to Monigator twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Shout out Mona. Okay, so we've been I've been discussing
on my area of the social labs how metopausal women
are literally being targeted for just the most ridiculousness. It's

(40:07):
like just fucking diabolical. You know, it's super sad. So
whenever I talk about like, you know, just being careful
and you know, stop buying ship from influencers saying that
you need X whatever for your menopausal stuff, it's just
you know, pay attention. And so, you know, someone was
in my comments section saying, and I get this a lot,

(40:27):
like why are you shaming women that want to take HRT?

Speaker 3 (40:30):
And I'm just like, what are you talking about? And
it just it's like, so it is.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Coming to realization, Matt, that a lot of people don't
understand the difference between a supplement and a pharmaceutical.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
And that's kind of that's kind of fucking scary, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
It's really scary.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Uh H is not a supplement.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
It's a prescription, a medicine, Okay, that that is prescribed
by your healthcare provider for you know, deficiencies. Uh So
you shouldn't be getting HRT off a makeup artist in
their affiliate link, just like you shouldn't be getting your
GLP one medications from them either. And That's what I'm

(41:09):
talking about.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Okay, So.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Drugs are not supplements.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
No, Like, what do you guys do thinking like HRT
is not a supplement? I repeat myself now.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
Supplements are protein, powdered protein, creatine, vitamin D, water bills, magnesium,
multi vitamin, all these other things. Those are supplements. You
can buy those from anyone, anywhere, anytime.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
But in order to get HRT you need a prescription.
It's not a supplement. It's a prescription drug. Right, can't
believe people don't.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
And like the coming at me, It's like, wait, first off,
I'm a nutrition in mindset and strength coach. I'm not
a fucking medical doctor. I shouldn't even be talking about
HRT in the first place. That's why you don't hear
me talk about it. And so why why are you
questioning me about something that is out of my scope
of practice? And the thing is, you're seeing a lot
of people do that and they're not supposed to be.
You're seeing people like talk about medical you know, pharmaceuticals

(42:11):
and diseases and medicines and all these things that they
know nothing about, and you're like fucking taking this information
and using it as it's like verbatim, what are we doing?

Speaker 3 (42:22):
And that's why you're confused, and they're like, well that you.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Know, we're so confused. We're getting so much different information. Yeah,
because you're listening to other people that don't know what
the fuck they're talking about, and you're not going to
somebody like a menopause provider in your area and discussing
that with them. That is what you should be doing.
And I'm fucking furious, you know what I mean. It's
just like what it's like the wild fucking West.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
It is. It is. It's like nineties to the early
two thousands, Die.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Culture, allotaries were women doing.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Yeah, influencers and this is kind of related.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
But here's the thought I've been having and I don't
I know, nothing will ever come of this, but you know,
it really pisses me off, and I wish that wasn't
a thing.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Is if you are a doctor, you're a PhD whatever
it is, and what you're.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Talking about online has nothing to do with what you
are medically trained to do, what your education is. You
should not be able to have doctor or PhD or
whatever in your fucking name, right, that's an instant. Like
we look at some people like doctor Eric Berg, He's
a fucking chiropractor, but he's doctor Eric Berg on social
media telling you that carvibrates and sugar are the root

(43:27):
of all evil or whatever, right, Like, like, you're a
fucking chiropractor. You don't have you're not you're not a
registered dietician. You're you're you're not trained to nutrition. Like
take that fucking bullshit title out of your name, because
that's not even what you're here practicing. Right, that's my
I don't know, that's the way I know. I agree, Yeah,
because we see that's the thing was. That's what we

(43:48):
see is those are usually the type of people that
are fucking scamming people and are grifting people. It's the
people that have a medical degree but nothing related to
what they're on social media talking about and the ship
that they're selling.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Yeah, that's where it becomes problematic.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
So we're talking about supplements. Did you look at that
see the latest thing about from consumer reports about protein
shake supplement just.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
When you sent it to me like five minutes before
the podcast.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Yeah, I guess I did kind of send it shortly,
and I was.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
I was literally on my walk and I just looked
at the title admittedly and was like, Okay, it's a
good thing. I'm not eating protein powders anymore.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
So this is so we're talking about Yeah, so we're
talking about supplements. I think this is kind of good
for us to talk about for a few minutes. So
you're talking about supplements, and you were talking about HRT,
which are prescription drug Right, supplements are not regulated by
the FDA.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
Okay, drugs, prescription drugs are for the most part. Compounded
is a whole different beast, as we've talked about so
much on here, because are not regulated compounded drugs. But
this consumer report report is about protein powder and protein

(45:10):
protein powders and shakes containing high levels of lead, and
it's very prevalent. We've known this, and this is because
there is no regulation on the supplement industry, and it's
only gotten worse over the years. Consumer Reports tested something
like thirty three leading brands of protein powders, and what

(45:32):
they found is that two thirds of them have in
a single dose more than the either the daily or
the weekly amount of Jesus considered to be safe amounts
of lead, which no amounts of lead are really safe,
but having some lead is kind of unavoidable in some

(45:53):
areas of your life with nutrition, but with supplements.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
It is.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
Two thirds of the thirty three leading products that they
tested had leads amount that was considered to be toxic
and on unsafe amounts. Let's see, lead was the main
heavy metal that emerged as an issue. About seventy percent
of products they tested contained over one hundred and twenty

(46:20):
percent of the level of concern for lead, which is
zero point five micrograms per day. Three products also exceeded
their level of concern for cadmium and inorganic arsenic, toxic
heavy metals that have been classified as a probable human
carc carcinogen and known human carcinogen respectively by the EPA. Wow,

(46:41):
and these are just supplements you can go get off
on Amazon from GNC whatever it might be.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Thirty I'm looking at the list and thank god, I've
never had any of these.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
The ones that are the dangerous ones. I say the
same thing, I thank god I don't.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
I've never so. Naked nutrition is the number one.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
Naked nutrition vegan mass gainer number one, YEP fifty and
seventy two percent. Yeah, level of concern for for lead
it's over fifteen hundred percent. The accepted amount to be
considered safe.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
That's fucking and over over the counter.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
Yeah, over the counter fucking supplement fuel that recognition twelve
hundred and eighty eight percent.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
So they recommend zero servings per week.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Garden of Life sport organic plant based protein that I know,
Garden of Life is a big name. That's five hundred
and sixty four per one and a quarter servings limited
per week.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
What I was happy about was the one the protein
supplement protein shake that I do take. The protein powder
is optimum Nutrition gold Standard. I've taken that one for years.
That's what I've been taken almost since day one. Is
it's only fifty fifty six percent level of concern for lead.
So they say the one one in three quarters servings
per day as them on that one.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
So nice.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
Yeah, so that's one of the more the safer ones actually,
so diimatized super mass gainer is one of another one
of the ones that's that's pretty safe at only twenty
five percent, and they say that they'll limit that to
four servings per day, which you shouldn't be having that
much anyway a protein powder. So right, so I guess
the what we're saying here is like to reiterate, supplements

(48:25):
are not regulated, and that's why y'all need to stop
fucking around with supplements.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
They're unregulated. Yeah, supplements are there to supplement, not to
be the main thing in your diet, to fill into
the void and to fill into deficiencies.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Yeah, not to mention kidney damage and shit, you guys,
you don't understand what your liver and kidneys do to
actually process all that stuff. So when no one thinks
about that, hm, I know I didn't.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
Yeah, I did kind of go down a rabbit hole
too with all this was talk about supplements. A few
years ago I posted a TikTok video about how Americans
spend thirty three billion dollars a year on weight loss
products and services. And that's still true, but we have
more data now to even build on that. The NIH

(49:16):
Office of Dietary Supplements notes that Americans spend two point
one billion annually on weight loss weight loss dietary supplements
such as pills and capsules, which hello, don't work fucking whatsoever.
That's like, so we just took two point one billion
dollars and literally just caught it on fire.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
And put it in people's pockets so crazy.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
More research suggests that the overall US weight loss industry,
which includes prescription drugs, medical programs, meal replacements, et cetera,
has grown to ninety billion dollars in twenty twenty three,
and as of twenty twenty three, UM weight loss drugs
like GLP ones was seven one billion dollars. Huge money

(50:00):
to be made with supplements and and drugs and medications,
and that's why we see.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Everybody with a discount code for you know right now. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
Yeah, So just saying that, I guess has a word
of caution, like, stop if you're gonna spend. If as
a society we're gonna we have thirty three billion dollars
to throw out. Now, that doesn't work every time. That
money and buying some home gym equipment or you know,
buying whole foods going to the gym, paying for childcare

(50:37):
to go to the gym, buying more fruits and vegetables
for your children. Yeah, that's money that could be used
so so so much more productively. And I think the
bigger issue here is the lack of regulation, and it's
only getting worse. Yeah, Like we're literally breaking down and

(50:57):
getting rid of a lot of the regulation that we
have on the on these industries as of the last
couple of years, it's only going to get worse. We
see a lot of the people that are the lobbyists
that are involved with these industries are now in charge
of writing policy and have real influence in politics. Now,

(51:19):
do you think they're going to have our best interest
in mind if they're coming from the supplement industry, No,
think so.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
They're tearing down.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
They want us to buy be a supplement, wearable country,
a supplement taking a wearable country.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
That makes you feel like you're doing something robots, but
you're not.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
We're literally putting a wearable on going to do idiocracy.
Do you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Yeah? I agree, I agree. It would be so much
better spending that time, energy, and money.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Keep me the fuck out of it. I am not
going to be a part of this ship. Keep keep
me a a part of the fucking biohacking a longevity crab.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Okay I am, I am. I am like on my
own road to longevity year doing just the boring ass
basic shit, not spending a fucking bunch of money in supplements.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Yeah right, this is my money on new outfits.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
This is kind of related, kind of not, but I
listened to I saw a new podcast that caught my
attention this morning on my walk, so I listened to
it at one point five speed so I could power
through it. I'm not going to name this podcast yet
because I want to listen to it more before I
determine if they're.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Full of shit or not.

Speaker 4 (52:30):
But the podcast was all about sugar and what's the
truth about sugar? What does the science show us about sugar?

Speaker 2 (52:37):
How bad is it for us?

Speaker 4 (52:39):
Early on in the podcast, they were talking about how
sugar makes you gain weight? Okay, and I'm waiting for it.
I'm like, okay, it's cool. This is a science based podcast.
They're they're citing some stuff. They're citing some some research,
they're citing.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Some data here.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
But you know what they did at site and talk
about in terms of sugar making you gain weight. They
didn't once talk about the overall over consumption of calories
being the reason why they're gaining weight from the sugar.
They were just making it painting a picture as if
it was just fucking sugar. Sugar on its own isn't.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Gonna make us gain with How did you find this podcast.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
It popped up on my uh Spotify under okay suggested
I guess we think you might like. Yeah, oh, that's
kind I.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
Love when they do that about us, So that's that's
that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Most of the time, I don't like the podcast they
recommend to me.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
That's pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
I don't listen to any more fitness podcasts I don't like,
and I do like a good science podcast, but there's
a lot of bullshit out there. I just I like
listening to my history and my Animal attack podcasts.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
And its true crime. I'm actually really into true crime
now too, so nice. But yeah, give me those ones
over the pseudo science and shit.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Yeah. Hell so the MOAB two forty was over the weekend.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Like that was fun. Yeah, that was fun to watch.
It was a lot of fun. I don't know if
everyone's completed it yet. I'm guessing that's probably pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
Imagine that the cutoff times have been probably right approached
and been passed passed by us now. But oh my god,
like so like first and foremost killing course, the winner
of he won by like thirty plus miles. That is
a full last day of running. YEA, dude, was fucking

(54:25):
like literally he finished finished a day before everybody. That's right,
absolutely insane. Not only did that, but he said a
record for the course. He won the Triple Crown, so
he won the big Foot two hundred, he won the
Tahoe two hundred, and then he won the more Wow,
and he set an overall record for thet for all
three of them too in terms of time.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
This dude is a fucking monster.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
He's young too, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
He's super young.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
He's super But also like shout outs a couple of
guys here, like they're not going to listen to this podcast,
but like somebody that we like to talk about is
David fucking Goggins. Yeah, crushed the two forty. Didn't even
know that he was competing because David Goggins and true
David Goggins fashion doesn't post what he's doing on social media.
He just goes out and does the thing and then
you're like, oh, look it's David fucking Goggins. Yeah, could

(55:10):
running by me on an ultra marathon. Yeah, fifty years old,
a year and a half removed from double new knee surgery,
literally has no knees left, doing a fucking two hundred
and forty mile race and competing too.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
I think he was top ten.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Yeah, I think he was like number seven or something.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Yeah he got lost. How he got lost?

Speaker 3 (55:28):
Yeah, he gets lost in those a lot. I think
lost got lost.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Yeah, but it's easy to do when you're when they're also.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Like, let's talk about the conditions that there were, Like, honestly,
it doesn't rain there because.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
If two hundred forty miles isn't hard enough.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
It decides to like have the worst fucking rainstorm. And like,
I don't know how many.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Years there, one hundred and fifty years, one hundred and.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Fifty fucking years. Okay, I thought it was something astronomical
like that, but I was like.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
That rainstorm that Utah has had in one hundred and
fifty years happened during this fucking ultra marathon.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
And can you imagine like that, that's like that's like
your worst fucking nightmare. That would be mine, that would
be that'd be my worst fucking ultra marathon nightmare is
to be running through a monsoon.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Yeah, I agree, in the desert and then at freezing.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
And you got like trench footuddy.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
So like shout out to everybody men and women that
completed it that didn't even complete it, because there's a
lot of people that that that dropped out had the
d n F. Like simply fucking showing up and attempting
it is props in that mad respect for sure. Andrew
Glaize shout out to Andrew Glaze here, like this was
his third time attempting.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
He was my favorite to watch mine.

Speaker 4 (56:40):
Too, that story there, and and like is he a
DNFT twice the previous two times he did it?

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Yeah, that he fucking did it.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
And like you saw the video of him getting clost
to the finish line and crying, Yeah, like I did it.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
I just want to thank everybody. These guys helped me
and I wanted to do without these guys.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
And I think that's just really cool. That really epitomizes
like what the running community and trail running community especially
is all about. Is Yeah, that camaraderie and we're here
to support each other. Yes, it's a race, but most
people in trail racing like they're there to push you,
to help you. They're going to stop and help you
get through a hard point, you know.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
I mean I have felt that I'm not two hundred
and fifty miles, but I know that running, like that
pain that you go into like because I've been there,
but not to that extent, but it's just it's fucking
out of body.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
I mean, I mean, just in that in that twenty
five k race trail race that I did back in September, Yeah,
at the final checkpoint, I think it was on final
aid station. It was like mile twelve or something, and
there was a guy that had passed me that was
really struggling at that at that check point, and so
I stopped, grabbed a glass of cup of Gator eight.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
I'm like, you ready to go do like, let's finish strong.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
You know.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
He's like, he's like, fuck, yeah, I guess I'll run
the rest of the way. So we pushed each other.
You know, we were struggling too, but we just pushed
each other. It wasn't about beating him or him beating me.
It was about making sure we both fucking finished doing
hard things, doing hard things because you know, and you
know the struggle that they're going through. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
I mean I can only imagine just the chub rub,
the fucking the chase, the fuck. I mean, it's it's funny.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Everything hurts, the fucking cramping, the fucking mud in your feet,
like you know, just the stomach aches. I could just
feel at all and I'm not even doing it, but
I know it's like takes all different kinds of levels
to get through that ship.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Pain cave, Yeah, lots of pain caves.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
M hm.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Okay, cool. Do you have anything else we want to
talk about, anything to add on to that? No, I
don't think so.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Okay, of the bathroom, you made it all the way through.
I know, I know job nerdle, I.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
Know a whole diet coke with lime and a half
a water and she ready.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
I did want to give one more shout out really
quickly because I received a couple of messages about last
week's episode where we thought we were talking about body image,
and I want to just shout out here.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Hippie Hippie's chick she loved.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
To comment on the episode on on Spotify, she said,
what I love is Matt's vulnerability. It is not often
you get things from a man's point of view. I
love your passion, Matt. I can hear it in your
voice and to hear your story hits deep. I love
everything you.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Said, also, I saw you with I'm not gonna it's
talk about my body, how I look great. I don't.
That's not what's important.

Speaker 4 (59:40):
But it was just the fact that people are hearing
what we're saying and like hearing our perspective on it
and hearing my perspective on it. Is like, I really
just appreciate that because the things I talk about, the
way I share.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Like, not a lot of guys are going to do that.
Not a lot of guys comfortable with like being that
vulnerable and.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
Sharing and saying the things that I'm that I say
I can't fight in that is and that's you know,
like with like a whole peanut butter thing like too.
I take pride in going against the grain and doing
things that other people aren't doing. And yeah, I guess
where is where I'm going with that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
So so, yes, thank you for the comment. We've I've
got lots of nice comments from last week's episode. Yeah,
I guess it was validating in a way that like, hey, people,
people are do want to hear this, and you know
these are things people are struggling with.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Oh yeah, you're struggling with it. Someone else is Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
You know that yeah, absolutely, that's why we talk about it.
That's right, It's so it is so funny though, I mean,
this one last thing and then I'll let you go
to the bathroom. How quickly, like how quickly the narrative
can change about your body, right, Like couple like last
week I was being body shamed because I'm out of shape,
I'm not fit, I'm too skinny, I don't have any muscle.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
But then this week on TikTok, people are leading comments
like wow, you're really in shape. Wow you're really fit,
Like wow you're really strong.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Like nothing changed in that one week, right, Like it's
all about a different perspective.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
Like when one of them was just attacking the way
I looked, the other one was complimenting the things.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
I was doing with my body.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Right, this did I did the old Man's test. You've
done the Old man challenge before? Oh yeah, with the
socks and the shoes. So it was like that that
was also just kind of ironic. I guess like, oh
look now I'm showing you like how I guess fit
I am now I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Fit, But like just by my ye I wasn't fit.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
You know, So yeah, it doesn't have a look Nope,
it sure don't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
All right, Nerdle. We'll let you go to the bathroom,
all right, Nerdle.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
Thank you, bye bye bye.

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