November 16, 2025 • 41 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Hello, Hello, Hello, welcome to another episode of Bad to Business.
I am your host, Shining Saffron. Joining me tonight is Jazzy.
Can you hear me? Jazzy? Awesome? I just wanted to
make sure that we are clear on this stage. Joining
me tonight is my co host, Jazzy. Always a pleasure
(00:51):
to have you, Jazzy. How you feeling this evening?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Great? Great, I'm happy to be here as always.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Let's do it. Let's rock out another show.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
There's another good one. We've been having some some good
shows lately. I like the way that we've been, you know,
picking up on some things we've been putting down on
paper and which kind of talks about our show tonight.
So that's good. Give some people a chance to tap in,
tap in, tap in, come in. You are welcome. The
(01:22):
welcome that is out. I want you to come on
into the business table, see what we got to talk
about tonight. I'm gonna go ahead and move into what
we're talking about tonight. The patient procrastinator m hm m
hm mum hm hm. So yes, this is very good.
(01:44):
This is why I want to kind of give a
minute make sure that all those who wanted to tap
in and see what I wanted to kind of cover,
see what we had up our sleeves wanted to talk about.
But yeah, this is a good one. This is a
real good one. Jesse and I did a lot of
research inside and outside to kind of bring this together.
(02:10):
We did a lot of, like I said, researching and
dialoguing with each other to understand, you know, each other's
point of view as well as thinking outside the box
from other different point of views. So very proud of
this one, right, But like I said, we're gonna go
ahead and dive in again. Welcome to another episode of
Bad to Business. Today, we are going to be talking
(02:31):
about the patient procrastinator. And the title says it all,
but there's so much more you know under a title,
and this one is no different. Tonight's episode, we're gonna
be talking about how to identify the patient procrastinator? Is
it you or the company you keep? Because both positions
are kind of dangerous, so you want to make sure
(02:52):
you know who is who in your circle. We'll be
talking about the three p's of procrastination, perfection, procrastination which
can also be switched out with people pleasing. We'll get
into that, and finally, paralysis, and Jesse and I will
be giving some tips on how to get back on
(03:14):
track after you've been get back on your feet, after
you've been sitting a little too long. So definitely want
to get into that and get this stuff rolling because
we got some facts to say. Thank you for joining in,
Thank you for joining in. The door is still open,
the welcome matter is still out. Come on and join in.
But like I said, we definitely want to get in
and tap into some things. We don't want to procrastinate
(03:36):
any longer on this right.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Definitely, definitely.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
And sometimes, I mean, you want it so perfect and
it's so overwhelming that you got so much going on
that it sometimes leads to that procrastination. I read somewhere
that perfection is achieved not when there's nothing more to add,
but when there's nothing left to take away, and you've
got to be okay sometimes with.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
That. And that's really hard to kind of fit that
in the way you say perfection is, you know, when
you don't do anything else.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, yeah, most perfection is trying to do so much
more with it.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
So mm hmm. And I mean, and let's go into
what what procrastination means. I mean, it's really the act
of delaying or avoiding a task you intend to do,
even when you know the delay could lead to negative consequences.
You know so, And I also have seen and read.
I mean, I took a psychology class back in college.
(04:42):
But psychologists call it self self regulation failure. And that's
when your short term emotions hijack your long term goals
and you're painfully aware of what's happening as it happens
to you.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, you still know how to stop it.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, and that's what we want to dive in today
about recognizing it and stopping it, right, that's the main goal.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, to be honest, all of
it can lead to different health hazards. I mean, it
can mess with your mental health. You know, it can
lead to anxiety, depression, It can lead to stress sometimes,
you know, it just depends. It can definitely take a
toll on your body. And speaking from me personally, who like,
(05:31):
I'm not the person to stress.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So when I stress out herself, Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
If I'm seeing Prey, i'd tell you she handles it.
She handles stress pretty well.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I mean, I price because it affects me, like it
really really affects me.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
My body hurts, my mind, you know, is just running
at a million miles and then I've been there.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
It's messed up.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I remember I had an old boss told me one time,
and she was a boss that I saw take on
a lot of stuff. And I remember pulling her aside
one time, like, how do you manage not only the job,
but because you're a manager and you got to manage
other people, how do you, you know, do all that?
And she said, you know, to be honest, I got
(06:19):
a healthcare while you're talking about that, tell me what
it was. But for her to tell me that she
had a health scare that cost her to kind of
take things a little bit better, yeah, so yeah, and
talking about how health can can affect it, so I
get there.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, And then procrastination, Like with her, it could have
been one of those things where she's so busy working,
managing and doing everything and work that the procrastination on
her health meant she missed daily checkups that could have
caught whatever it was that might have been went wrong.
Treatment is not there because you hell, you haven't gone
to the doctor, so you don't know what it is
(07:00):
that can make it better. And you know, sometimes even
like the simplest thing like lack of exercise, sleep, good
eating habits, all that can.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Affect everything that you do. It can affect your work,
your performance.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
And like with her, like you said, she had a
health scare which turned out to probably take her out
of work for.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Way longer then maybe she had anticipated.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Maybe if she had just went to the doctor on
a regular basis, you know, yeah, I mean advice.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
When she went. When I was talking to her, that
might have been a little bit of it too. It's
not just handling stress well, but how did you get
to that point of handling your stress well? Great?
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I mean, like you said, can it can jeopardize her
overall well being. It takes time off of work, time
away from your family, your you sacrifice your rest trying
to cut corners, prenching time. You can't do any of
that if you're sick and mess up, so you can't
procrastinating on things that.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Matter, you know what I mean. And I know it's hard,
but you can't.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
That's true. And you did say crunching time.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Get into that.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
You know, when I talk about crunch time, sometimes crunch
time is the best sign. And that's coming from somebody
who feels like they are the one of the most
perfect patient procrastinators there are, you know, and I'm gonna
tell you, you know, and when I say perfect, perfect
patient procrastinator, you know, let me define myself. You know.
(08:41):
Even when I say that, I mean it's a little
bit different. There is a strategy to you know, sometimes
there is a strategy to procrastination. But let's go ahead
and define somebody that you may know or yourself. And
if the shoe fits, either gonna wear it or you're
gonna take it off. Okay, but let's define somebody that
(09:04):
may be that perfect. I'm not even gonna give anybody
else that title. Okay, I claimed it, won't do it.
But let's let's see how we define that patient procrastinator.
Is it you or anybody else? Someone who waits for
the perfect ideas or opportunity before even making the first step?
(09:26):
Now one of those there's a word in it that
probably should not be relant relevant to any of us.
I mean, I'm sorry, relevant, but not really. I'm gonna
say able to be applied. And the key word in
there is perfect.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, okay, where.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
We're waiting for the perfect idea or the perfect opportunity
before we even make And we've heard jokes memes about
waiting number guy, wait on the perfect this wait. There
is no perfect unfortunately, and I will say, even to
some procrastinators, perfect probably never comes because there's always a
(10:13):
better time, right, There's always something that could be better
about even when the moment comes. Right. So, even with
that being said, someone who, like I said, who feels
like there's more to do, someone who overthinks or over
(10:33):
researches ultimately wasting time and not doing anything with that time. So,
like I just said, we you know, wait on that
perfect time and then when we I guess when it
does come, because sometimes you could put you know, a
label on it when this happens, or I'm gonna put
a date on it January first. I'm gonna do a
(10:54):
whole lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
We won't even talk about it.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I can't ever again and just be again and and again. Okay,
but start in January first. I'm not gonna do that.
So we try to, you know, put something on there.
And another thing about you know, doing that and not
following through is that you get there and then it's
(11:21):
still not the perfect time. Like I said, something's wrong
with it. Something happens, you realize, and especially when you
set a date or goal a little further out right, Ye,
something is gonna happen. I mean, distractions are supposed to happen.
The adversary is real, but your focus should be really
you know, so you know overthinking. I am a little
(11:45):
guilty of that myself, because every time I can think
of an idea and I'm like, oh, that's great, I'm
gonna try that. Sometimes I call you like hey, what
you think about this? And you're like, oh, that's good,
and then I, being unadjusted, I have adjusted it about
five times since you've seen it, like did you post it?
Did you say something about it? Or like no, I'm
(12:06):
still doing some things. I'm I'm gonna so moving even
into that. And the next thing is someone who is
too comfortable with rescheduling or canceling appointments, like it's okay
to avoid the tasks at hand that you need to do.
(12:27):
That's why I was saying, like, uh, now this happened,
not happened. You know. First of all, I'm feeling attacked, okay,
because I think I just said something about myself when
I said defining the patient procrastinator. I think I probably
made a reason for everything, and that's okay, because part
of this was defining who wears that shoe. And like
(12:50):
I said, if the shoe fits weird, I'm finna take
my shoes off, I'm finna take my socks off. I
need to bare foot for a while, find a floodstone
for a minute, because apparently I need to get back
to my roots. Okay, but yeah, so the defining that person.
(13:11):
So that's three ways of defining who's wearing that shoe,
and you know who's wearing it comfortably. And again, you
gotta be careful of those people who are comfortable with
pushing things back and not getting to task and avoiding things.
And speaking of avoiding things, let's talk the difference between
taking general rest to something and actually avoiding for some things. Right.
(13:38):
I read somewhere that the procrastination habit is mostly emotional.
When a task feels too boring or overwhelming or likely
to go bad, we tend to avoid it. That avoidance
gives us short term relief, which feels good in the moment.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, but not forever, no, because I.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Mean, we all know what you put off today, We'll
show up tomorrow. Right, But even talking the temporary, the
short term temporary relief of it, I feel so attacked,
but yet so understood. I'm about to tell you what
(14:23):
let me tell you. You know, the short term relief
may come from and this is gonna sound weird, but
kind of like you did accomplish something like maybe you
accomplished putting it off. What got sounds crazy, I know,
(14:45):
I don't like. So. I had a boss one time
that was saying that, you know, you can't continuously put
things off. Right, if you got to put something off
today till tomorrow, cool, but when you get to tomorrow,
it can't go to the next day. I mean, you
may be able to put something off the next day
until the next day, but don't carry things two days over.
(15:08):
So you know. But like I said, so, if you,
I guess, push that to the next day, your short
term relief kind of feels like, Okay, that's what I
did with that, right, That's that's get it or don't. Okay,
I'm telling you that's like. But again, let's talk the
(15:30):
difference between just giving some general rest to something versus
just avoiding something, avoiding the task that needs to be done. Ultimately, right,
So let's talk being burnt out from doing something productive
versus burnt out from doing absolutely nothing productive. Of course,
(15:54):
your goal is rated. You want to rate the goal.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, something you.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Want to set a goal, continue to be a bigger
goal in your life, right, so you never want to
lower your standards or do anything different like that. But
but the difference between being yes, I'm I'm tired. I
you know, I did this and I did that, and
(16:20):
I'm burnt out and now I kind of you know,
I need to just give this a rest versus girl,
I've been having all my ideas running through my mind
all day. You know, my feet are tired from me
running through my mind all day. I mean, right, So
(16:45):
that's a little bit different. Be be a little more
productive before you say life, that's that's all I'm saying.
What would have you done lately for yourself? What have
you done for you lately? You know, my old schools
to get it. But yeah, well, what do you think
about the difference between resting and and and avoidance?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I mean, well, you also have to take a second.
You got to step back and apply action of resolution
versus no thought to a resolution. You gotta you gotta sure,
you're applying some type of action. Like even from our
last show with with with clarity comes action.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
So when you.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Sit there, you take a step back, you.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Take a look and survey everything that's going on. You
can come up with something versus you just rush into
it and you haven't really caught as much of it
through as you could.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
And I actually I love that. Excuse me, I've been
able to kind of apply that to some things in
my life with that clarity comes with action. You know,
it's not necessarily caushing into it, but it's making a
first step. There's been some other things going on in
my life where I've been a little confused, but remembering
(18:07):
with clarity comes action. So shout out to Melissa mone
for that. Yeah, I gotta higher brand. But taking even
a first step to something being like okay, so now
I know what comes next versus I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Nothing at all and you just went I like that.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
With clarity cosaction. I like that. And even with that,
there is a when we talk about general rest versus avoidance.
So sometimes you just have to kind of you know,
the old and new saying give it to God, kind
(18:52):
of like just having the faith over for your kind
of aspect of it where you can kind of just
go with the flow with things, see how things are
gonna pan out, versus you literally spending wasted energy trying
to go around something. You know. So that's what we
mean by the rest of something, trusting in something, still
(19:15):
actioning something. But you know, I'm kind of seeing where
that goes. How that is, so that fake over fear
is a good factor of resting versus avoidance.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, that's true. It's true.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
And I mean and I've read an article actually probably
I don't even remember how long ago it was, but
it was like in psychology today, and it actually talked
about the three piece of procrastination, like what we're talking about,
the perfection, pleasing or which is also sometimes place with
the procrastination, and paralysis. Each of those continuous it leads
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to the nets, which leave you feeling stuck, unaccomplished, like
you you feel like you haven't done anything because all
of these things have started to take effect and each
one leads to the next one. This is where the
need to please others ties into the failure or the
fear of failure, and it creates that avoidance that we
(20:23):
were just talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
You.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Like, even with the first perfectionism, the fear of not
doing something perfect, it's usually geared by or it leads to.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
People pleasing.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
That's true. That's true because who are you trying to
make it perfect for?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Mm hmmm, right, it's almost down.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Like you're scared to fail for somebody else? Yep, who
are you doing it for? And that typically can cause
being overwhelmed. And if you think about it, like right now,
the way content creation is the way as quickly as
a video a TikTok can be made. Trying to people
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please can be very overwhelmed. Depending on how many followers
followers you have, right, Uh, let's just say you've got
a million followers with a million different personalities. Now we
can just go ahead and break it down to a
science and say, you know, a third thinks this and
a third thinks this. You can ration it out if
you want to. But even then, a third of a million,
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you know that that's a lot of people pleasing. That's
a lot of ways to pull yourself in different ways
and and not be yourself. And one of the things
that does lead to procrastinating is not being yourself. Now
(21:53):
we're people pleasing and trying to do what everybody needs
us to do. And now we are procrastinating because we
don't have the perfect thing for everybody, or you're trying
to do the perfect.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Thing for everybody, right, yeah, and now we're.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Back to procrastinating, which you know causes the inaction. Now
you're overwhelmed. What do I do? I gotta do this,
and I gotta do this. I told you that there's
sometimes that I think about so many things I have
to do that I'm tired. Like I said, my feet
have been running through my mind.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
All day, right, which leads you to paralysis, because now
you've stud the whole perfect idea, and that's where that
toxic cycle begins.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
It starts right back there.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah. Well, I mean and you say toxic cycle. You
say toxic cycle no, because, like you said, paralysis, because
now I'm here going wait where do I start again?
That's sometime on my content creation days and I tell you,
like you'll call me and say, hey, you know where
(23:08):
you with this and that? And I'm like, I'm thinking, okay,
all right, well be thinking. I high let you a
little bit later, and you know, I catch up with
my day and do other things and then try to
come back to that, like, hey, where you are? Where
are you with that? This is what I've done blah
blah blah. And I'm like, oh, I've done this, Okay,
where are we that with this other thing I was
(23:28):
thinking over? And you know, even with this, it's a
like I said, it can be a toxic cycle. But
there are some hidden benefits of waiting, not procrastinating. Not
to be confused with procrastinating. Okay, I'm just trying to
(23:50):
make it sound better, but there are some benefits to
the hold up. Okay, you know me, I will play
that word dictionary with me and everybody else. It can
help you avoid making hasty decisions, decisions right when you
let a decision kind of simmer for a minute.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
You know, if here anything like me, you ain't gonna
discuss it with everybody. So sometimes you need to pray
about it, think about it, kind of see how things
pan out. Also, sometimes it builds character with patience and resilience.
You kind of got to wait on some things.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
You sometimes you gotta.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Wait on how some things pan out, and you want
to make sure that you're making the right decisions. Some
things you kind of look at and like I need
to wait to see what's gonna happen with.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
This with that no, no, and I get that, I
get that, And you know, I think you had.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Said something about that's where discernment comes in a lot
of times too. You need to know when to give
your energy and when not to. So that does play
a big part.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah, does obedience.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yes, huge, another show, this show, another show, all the
shows obedience. And you know, also, one of the things
about waiting, not necessarily procrastinating, but just kind of patiently
procrastinating on some things, is that it helps you appreciate
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some things even more when you wait on some things.
I am going into some new ventures and I'm gonna
talk about it right now. But there's some things that
I'm trying out, you know, just gonna kind of try out.
And they're some things you have to kind of piece together, right,
you gotta put together. Yeah, And so, like we were saying,
(25:43):
sometimes you have to sit back and look at some things.
And that's what's going on with this. I have to
patiently wait on putting some things and tapping back to
giving some general rest to something versus just avoiding something
right now. On some things I have to give some
general rest. But I can say that probably because I
avoided some things before have led me to why I
(26:06):
got to take a seat. And that's another thing. Don't
miss that that that window jas and I've talked about
that window too. Yeah, you know, you don't want to
miss that that opportunity because then you're on a hustle
and bustle trying to catch up to the next opportunity. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, And I can understand that. I can understand that.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
And I mean by patiently waiting, you can it can
reduce the stress and the anxiety if you let it.
So learning to resist that temptation and the immediate rewards
to focus on the long term success, that can give
you a different type of gratification. So I mean sometimes
(26:46):
it's okay, I mean, what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Uh, definitely a different type of gratification. I I'm gonna
just say this that whole Okay, this is what I
did with this. I took this and I placed it
to tomorrow. I mean, now, if you are somebody who
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can stick by if I placed it to tomorrow, that
has to get done tomorrow. You know that's good. Some things, again,
you have to wait till tomorrow to get that done.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
But then are you going to do it?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
So you definitely want to follow up on that. So
I get that. So we've tapped into a little bit
of what procrastination is and how to identify it and
stuff like that, and how sometimes patiently procrastinating can be beneficial, right,
it can kind of work in your benefit as far
(27:43):
as your decision making. But now we need to turn
that patience slash procrastination because we now we need to
turn it into action. We don't want to, you know,
delay gratification too much because sometimes you do deserve that.
Sometimes you do deserve it, and you're holding yourself back,
(28:05):
especially if you've pushed other people up and helped other
people get it, Why isn't it your turn? So make
sure that you're learning that. But now what So now
we want to learn how to stop procrastinating and you
got to do a bit by bit. But it has
shown it has been shown to kind of boost your
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motivation and boost your self trust, your mood overall. Because
now we're taking the steps. Like I said, you take
that first step and now you're like, okay, now what's next.
You feel a little more confident that you can keep stepping,
just like a baby who takes baby steps. Yeah, you
gotta take that first step. Even if you want to
take off running at some point, you will never run
(28:47):
if you don't step.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
So some of the things that you can do to
turn this patience into action, turn this procrastination. Let's go
ahead and say what it is into action. Is one
of the things that I know that is personal to
me is you got to get up and show up. Yeah,
real cut, clean, show up. If you follow the podcast,
(29:13):
one of my first shows was when I said I
was talking to God about some different things going on
in my life, losing my dad being one of them
earlier this year, and when I asked him, now, what
am I supposed to do? And he said show up?
And again I'm like, show up for who? Because I'm
trying to do some stuff for me while I'm looking
(29:33):
for you. Who am I showing up for? Like I said,
God is real clean cut, show up. So I've been
showing up wherever I can do whatever I can however
I can. Sometimes I need to take that step for
me and not just be running a marathon for other people.
But that's another show. And you know, you gotta take
(29:55):
that position, whatever the time comes, like I said, whenever
it is, whatever you gotta do. Sometimes the greatest thing
and the most important thing you can do is just
taking that first step to showing up.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, so we definitely want to do that.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
For ourselves and other people.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Support your supporters, right yep, yep in the least yep yep.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I mean, and even also do other like small things
to to once you've shown up, you can create find
a simple routine that helps get you moving moving, Like
you said, you're getting out there, You're going places, meeting
new people. You know, you're we've both started working out.
We've challenged each other to you know, do different sets,
(30:40):
and you know, even though we're in different states, we're
challenging each other to work out and do better each day.
So those little things, you know, and of course make
some create some self imposed deadlines, give yourself some time
limits to do some stuff. I know you and I
I've talked about, you know, creating schedules and following it
(31:04):
like we both have been on a recommend you know,
and it does help when you follow that routine, when
you have a written down or even if you have
like a digital journal or hey, jem and I keep
this or paid Google or whoever, keep this in my
calendar so that I know that at this time I
need to do this or whatever I'm doing. So all
(31:26):
those things help to get you out of that patiently
procrastinating stage.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I know.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
For me, like you said, you just got to get
up and show up, like even if you don't feel
like doing it. Like I know, there's been so many
mornings where it's like, oh my god, it's four forty five,
I don't feel like working out today. But once I
work out and get it done, I feel so much
better my day. Right, I can think better, you know,
(31:54):
I follow I'm following between I hate it getting up,
getting in the cold and freezing, but once you get
it done, it's done and you're good for the rest
of the day. Like those little things to make things
better in your life. So you got to take those step.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
And one of the things that you just said is
that I don't feel like going, but then I feel better.
And we talk a lot about feelings, right, we don't
let our feelings get in the way of our purpose.
So it's okay to feel it's not okay to stay
there and let it get in away your purpose. Yes, so,
and that's a big part of procrastination. Sometimes you don't
(32:32):
know that it is getting in a way of your
purpose because you don't know your purpose. The point is
get out there what I think Jessie and I have
talked about it before, and I've said it in the
podcast before too, where God has said that he wants
me to be a bridge, not a bitch. I want
when people see you and meet you and they know
who you are, I want them to know that you
(32:54):
are somebody who can lead them to something, not somebody
who's just gonna sit on some stuff. And now, even
on the flip side to that, I can probably lead
a herd to watter yep, and then I'd be thirsty.
And then I don't drink, if you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah, because I feel like, no, no, no, y'all could drink.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I'll be okay. I'm gonna wait till the next stop, patient, patient,
I can wait till the next stop. I just want
to make sure everybody all right. Cool, but definitely, and
the self imposed deadline. I like that. I like that
because one of the things that I use that for
myself laundry, laundry.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Off off top laundry.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I I'm not gonna say I dread it because that
just sounds like I don't like to do housework, but
I do. Laundry is my least favorite, right, so I
do do a self imposed deadline, like I'll see what
time it is or whatever, and go all right, let
me see if you can do this. Talk to myself, right,
let me see it. You can just knock this out
(34:01):
real quick, in like fifteen minutes, Like it doesn't take
all day to do nothing. No nothing. You can only
do a load at a time unless you don't went
to the washhouse. And then I get it. And then
those are the ones that are excused by me. I
get it. Okay, you go to the washhouse, you got
like you just gonna do it for the week. I'm
gonna tell you, don't leave that laundry, Matt without folding
(34:23):
that laundry. Dude, you take that laundry home, you're gonna
be picking drink it out, wrinkled clothes. I was just
come on, like you might get that first week out
with don't leave that laundry, Matt. And I understand why
my mom did that with me and my brothers and
my sisters. Like when I drop y'all off, by the
time I pick it up, pick y'all up, the laundry
(34:45):
should be folded.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yep. I just want to put it away when I
get home.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
You know why, because that takes away from the time
we need to be doing at home. So the time
that my mom allotted or we allot ourselves to do
laundry is for that so that we can move on
to something else. Doesn't delay the process, right, all right, Sorry,
we don't want to get all into that, but that
was really good. So, like I said, we've talked about
(35:10):
what procrastination is. We talked about defining it. We've talked
about knowing who's wearing the shoe right, We've talked about
some benefits that can be from procrastinating or just patiently procrastinating.
And we've talked about how to kind of get some
things into action, some of the things that you can
do to kind of get moving. Always always and first, first,
(35:33):
and always take the step. I don't care what it is.
And man, this hit me so hard this evening. Y'all
will have to excuse me because I'm gonna take all
of this advice and all of this stuff myself, and
so you might see a different meat because I have
(35:54):
been letting some of my flings and in the way
of my purposes. I have been told to do some
things and feel a little freeer with who I am
and what I do. And I've been patiently waiting for
that perfect moment. Bless trust me. Me and God we
talk a lot, you know. I mean, he don't talk
much because he said he said what he said, I
am who I am, and I said, I am said
(36:17):
what I told you to do? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Done.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
That's where I'm at. So at this point, he's getting
a little tougher the love. The love is getting tougher,
and it's time to just do what you called to do.
You covered and called to do what you need to do.
So uh, before we bring this to a close, there
is a lot of approach to procrastination. You can inject
(36:41):
a little bit of humor into your day when you're
struggling with some procrastination, because humor reminds us of our
common humanity that we will procrastinate. We will have some
fears and securities and stuff like that. Right, how normal
it is to procrastinate. But it will will pass. It
will pass if that's what you wanted to do. So
(37:07):
I found a couple of quotes that I thought was
kind of funny, and then we'll go ahead and wrap
this up. I just want you guys to kind of
think of some things. And you know, as funny as
these quotes may seem, they are real, you know, and
I do approve these messages. So tomorrow is often the
busiest day of the week. Tomorrow is often the busiest
(37:31):
day a week. I keep putting it off and then
now I can't get to that. I got too much
to do today when it's but it's tomorrow, and that's
when you're supposed to do that. The sooner I fall behind,
the more time I have to catch up. Okay, okay.
(37:56):
One of my favorites, because I talk about crunch time
a lot, here's one of my favorites. I do my
work at the same time each day, at the last minute.
I'm sure my procrastination is I told you perfect, And
there's no such thing as perfect, right, perfect patient, patient procrastinator,
(38:17):
because my procrastination is structured, thank you very much. When
I put it off, I make sure I put it
off at a certain time that I can put it
off again. Just kidding, just kidding, don't use that, Yeah,
cal that I really wanted to share though. Procrastination taught
me how to do thirty minutes of work in eight hours,
(38:39):
and eight hours of work in thirty minutes. When you
say make it makes sense, I'm gonna say it again
just in case you don't catch it, and then you're
gonna have to catch it at the replay. Procrastination has
taught me to do thirty minutes of work in eight hours,
(39:00):
and eight hours of working thirty minutes crunch time.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
And this is one that.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
This is one that somebody wanted me to throw in,
and I'm cool with this one. This was kind of cool.
If you wait until the last minute, then it'll only
take a minute to do I should have threw that
in in the benefits of waiting, because I mean the
last minute, then I could do it real quick. Right.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Where'd you get this? Like a kid's joke book?
Speaker 1 (39:32):
This works for some, it doesn't work for all. Hey,
if you're either gonna wear it and be comfortable with it,
or you're gonna take it off, Okay, And that's what
the spot the show was really coming about. I will
pull some follow up things because I still got some
more jokes for you folks at bars, So I still
(39:52):
want to follow up on this because again, like I
told you stop that is but no, it's like I said,
this really hit hard for me. And you know, Jazz
and I have had this thing where threes have come
up in our lives, and we joked about it years
ago when we were talking about taking a trip and
(40:14):
it was three months away and we were like, Okay,
we got three months, but we know that three months
can turn into three weeks, that can turn into three
days and then three hours before we have to board
the plane. So we we're just joking around in that
and ironically it's really not a joke because now we
both have things going on in our lives. What this
is now probably like four years later, right, and and
(40:37):
the threes are coming up. We're you know, went from
three months, the three weeks, the three days, and I'm
really talking to Jazzy's on the three day mission, and
I hope we get to follow up with her to
make sure that her journey was wonderful and safe and
that that three days really came to fruition like we
prayed and manifested. So luck on your journey. We're not
(41:00):
you know, do that yet, but I hope to have
you back on the next show. If not, I know
it's because you are working things out.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
So we will just look on that.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
And I want to thank everybody for joining Shining and
Jazzy with today on the Patient Procrastinator. I hope you
learned some things. Reach on, teach many. If you didn't
really catch some things, remember to play that back. I
will be playing the replay so you can catch that
and catch me in Jazzy and again, I salute you,
Jazzy and everything that you're gonna do. Take these three
(41:30):
days and take off. Okay, everybody, continue to follow us again.
I'll be posting the replay in some ways to follow
us and join us next time on Bad to Business.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
I am Shining.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Love y'all have a good weekend.
Hello, Hello, Hello, welcome to another episode of Bad to Business.
I am your host, Shining Saffron. Joining me tonight is Jazzy.
Can you hear me? Jazzy? Awesome? I just wanted to
make sure that we are clear on this stage. Joining
me tonight is my co host, Jazzy. Always a pleasure
(00:51):
to have you, Jazzy. How you feeling this evening?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Great? Great, I'm happy to be here as always.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Let's do it. Let's rock out another show.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
There's another good one. We've been having some some good
shows lately. I like the way that we've been, you know,
picking up on some things we've been putting down on
paper and which kind of talks about our show tonight.
So that's good. Give some people a chance to tap in,
tap in, tap in, come in. You are welcome. The
(01:22):
welcome that is out. I want you to come on
into the business table, see what we got to talk
about tonight. I'm gonna go ahead and move into what
we're talking about tonight. The patient procrastinator m hm m
hm mum hm hm. So yes, this is very good.
(01:44):
This is why I want to kind of give a
minute make sure that all those who wanted to tap
in and see what I wanted to kind of cover,
see what we had up our sleeves wanted to talk about.
But yeah, this is a good one. This is a
real good one. Jesse and I did a lot of
research inside and outside to kind of bring this together.
(02:10):
We did a lot of, like I said, researching and
dialoguing with each other to understand, you know, each other's
point of view as well as thinking outside the box
from other different point of views. So very proud of
this one, right, But like I said, we're gonna go
ahead and dive in again. Welcome to another episode of
Bad to Business. Today, we are going to be talking
(02:31):
about the patient procrastinator. And the title says it all,
but there's so much more you know under a title,
and this one is no different. Tonight's episode, we're gonna
be talking about how to identify the patient procrastinator? Is
it you or the company you keep? Because both positions
are kind of dangerous, so you want to make sure
(02:52):
you know who is who in your circle. We'll be
talking about the three p's of procrastination, perfection, procrastination which
can also be switched out with people pleasing. We'll get
into that, and finally, paralysis, and Jesse and I will
be giving some tips on how to get back on
(03:14):
track after you've been get back on your feet, after
you've been sitting a little too long. So definitely want
to get into that and get this stuff rolling because
we got some facts to say. Thank you for joining in,
Thank you for joining in. The door is still open,
the welcome matter is still out. Come on and join in.
But like I said, we definitely want to get in
and tap into some things. We don't want to procrastinate
(03:36):
any longer on this right.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Definitely, definitely.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
And sometimes, I mean, you want it so perfect and
it's so overwhelming that you got so much going on
that it sometimes leads to that procrastination. I read somewhere
that perfection is achieved not when there's nothing more to add,
but when there's nothing left to take away, and you've
got to be okay sometimes with.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
That. And that's really hard to kind of fit that
in the way you say perfection is, you know, when
you don't do anything else.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, yeah, most perfection is trying to do so much
more with it.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
So mm hmm. And I mean, and let's go into
what what procrastination means. I mean, it's really the act
of delaying or avoiding a task you intend to do,
even when you know the delay could lead to negative consequences.
You know so, And I also have seen and read.
I mean, I took a psychology class back in college.
(04:42):
But psychologists call it self self regulation failure. And that's
when your short term emotions hijack your long term goals
and you're painfully aware of what's happening as it happens
to you.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, you still know how to stop it.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, and that's what we want to dive in today
about recognizing it and stopping it, right, that's the main goal.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, to be honest, all of
it can lead to different health hazards. I mean, it
can mess with your mental health. You know, it can
lead to anxiety, depression, It can lead to stress sometimes,
you know, it just depends. It can definitely take a
toll on your body. And speaking from me personally, who like,
(05:31):
I'm not the person to stress.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So when I stress out herself, Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
If I'm seeing Prey, i'd tell you she handles it.
She handles stress pretty well.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I mean, I price because it affects me, like it
really really affects me.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
My body hurts, my mind, you know, is just running
at a million miles and then I've been there.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
It's messed up.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I remember I had an old boss told me one time,
and she was a boss that I saw take on
a lot of stuff. And I remember pulling her aside
one time, like, how do you manage not only the job,
but because you're a manager and you got to manage
other people, how do you, you know, do all that?
And she said, you know, to be honest, I got
(06:19):
a healthcare while you're talking about that, tell me what
it was. But for her to tell me that she
had a health scare that cost her to kind of
take things a little bit better, yeah, so yeah, and
talking about how health can can affect it, so I
get there.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, And then procrastination, Like with her, it could have
been one of those things where she's so busy working,
managing and doing everything and work that the procrastination on
her health meant she missed daily checkups that could have
caught whatever it was that might have been went wrong.
Treatment is not there because you hell, you haven't gone
to the doctor, so you don't know what it is
(07:00):
that can make it better. And you know, sometimes even
like the simplest thing like lack of exercise, sleep, good
eating habits, all that can.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Affect everything that you do. It can affect your work,
your performance.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
And like with her, like you said, she had a
health scare which turned out to probably take her out
of work for.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Way longer then maybe she had anticipated.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Maybe if she had just went to the doctor on
a regular basis, you know, yeah, I mean advice.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
When she went. When I was talking to her, that
might have been a little bit of it too. It's
not just handling stress well, but how did you get
to that point of handling your stress well? Great?
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I mean, like you said, can it can jeopardize her
overall well being. It takes time off of work, time
away from your family, your you sacrifice your rest trying
to cut corners, prenching time. You can't do any of
that if you're sick and mess up, so you can't
procrastinating on things that.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Matter, you know what I mean. And I know it's hard,
but you can't.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
That's true. And you did say crunching time.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Get into that.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
You know, when I talk about crunch time, sometimes crunch
time is the best sign. And that's coming from somebody
who feels like they are the one of the most
perfect patient procrastinators there are, you know, and I'm gonna
tell you, you know, and when I say perfect, perfect
patient procrastinator, you know, let me define myself. You know.
(08:41):
Even when I say that, I mean it's a little
bit different. There is a strategy to you know, sometimes
there is a strategy to procrastination. But let's go ahead
and define somebody that you may know or yourself. And
if the shoe fits, either gonna wear it or you're
gonna take it off. Okay, but let's define somebody that
(09:04):
may be that perfect. I'm not even gonna give anybody
else that title. Okay, I claimed it, won't do it.
But let's let's see how we define that patient procrastinator.
Is it you or anybody else? Someone who waits for
the perfect ideas or opportunity before even making the first step?
(09:26):
Now one of those there's a word in it that
probably should not be relant relevant to any of us.
I mean, I'm sorry, relevant, but not really. I'm gonna
say able to be applied. And the key word in
there is perfect.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, okay, where.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
We're waiting for the perfect idea or the perfect opportunity
before we even make And we've heard jokes memes about
waiting number guy, wait on the perfect this wait. There
is no perfect unfortunately, and I will say, even to
some procrastinators, perfect probably never comes because there's always a
(10:13):
better time, right, There's always something that could be better
about even when the moment comes. Right. So, even with
that being said, someone who, like I said, who feels
like there's more to do, someone who overthinks or over
(10:33):
researches ultimately wasting time and not doing anything with that time. So,
like I just said, we you know, wait on that
perfect time and then when we I guess when it
does come, because sometimes you could put you know, a
label on it when this happens, or I'm gonna put
a date on it January first. I'm gonna do a
(10:54):
whole lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
We won't even talk about it.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I can't ever again and just be again and and again. Okay,
but start in January first. I'm not gonna do that.
So we try to, you know, put something on there.
And another thing about you know, doing that and not
following through is that you get there and then it's
(11:21):
still not the perfect time. Like I said, something's wrong
with it. Something happens, you realize, and especially when you
set a date or goal a little further out right, Ye,
something is gonna happen. I mean, distractions are supposed to happen.
The adversary is real, but your focus should be really
you know, so you know overthinking. I am a little
(11:45):
guilty of that myself, because every time I can think
of an idea and I'm like, oh, that's great, I'm
gonna try that. Sometimes I call you like hey, what
you think about this? And you're like, oh, that's good,
and then I, being unadjusted, I have adjusted it about
five times since you've seen it, like did you post it?
Did you say something about it? Or like no, I'm
(12:06):
still doing some things. I'm I'm gonna so moving even
into that. And the next thing is someone who is
too comfortable with rescheduling or canceling appointments, like it's okay
to avoid the tasks at hand that you need to do.
(12:27):
That's why I was saying, like, uh, now this happened,
not happened. You know. First of all, I'm feeling attacked, okay,
because I think I just said something about myself when
I said defining the patient procrastinator. I think I probably
made a reason for everything, and that's okay, because part
of this was defining who wears that shoe. And like
(12:50):
I said, if the shoe fits weird, I'm finna take
my shoes off, I'm finna take my socks off. I
need to bare foot for a while, find a floodstone
for a minute, because apparently I need to get back
to my roots. Okay, but yeah, so the defining that person.
(13:11):
So that's three ways of defining who's wearing that shoe,
and you know who's wearing it comfortably. And again, you
gotta be careful of those people who are comfortable with
pushing things back and not getting to task and avoiding things.
And speaking of avoiding things, let's talk the difference between
taking general rest to something and actually avoiding for some things. Right.
(13:38):
I read somewhere that the procrastination habit is mostly emotional.
When a task feels too boring or overwhelming or likely
to go bad, we tend to avoid it. That avoidance
gives us short term relief, which feels good in the moment.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, but not forever, no, because I.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Mean, we all know what you put off today, We'll
show up tomorrow. Right, But even talking the temporary, the
short term temporary relief of it, I feel so attacked,
but yet so understood. I'm about to tell you what
(14:23):
let me tell you. You know, the short term relief
may come from and this is gonna sound weird, but
kind of like you did accomplish something like maybe you
accomplished putting it off. What got sounds crazy, I know,
(14:45):
I don't like. So. I had a boss one time
that was saying that, you know, you can't continuously put
things off. Right, if you got to put something off
today till tomorrow, cool, but when you get to tomorrow,
it can't go to the next day. I mean, you
may be able to put something off the next day
until the next day, but don't carry things two days over.
(15:08):
So you know. But like I said, so, if you,
I guess, push that to the next day, your short
term relief kind of feels like, Okay, that's what I
did with that, right, That's that's get it or don't. Okay,
I'm telling you that's like. But again, let's talk the
(15:30):
difference between just giving some general rest to something versus
just avoiding something, avoiding the task that needs to be done. Ultimately, right,
So let's talk being burnt out from doing something productive
versus burnt out from doing absolutely nothing productive. Of course,
(15:54):
your goal is rated. You want to rate the goal.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, something you.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Want to set a goal, continue to be a bigger
goal in your life, right, so you never want to
lower your standards or do anything different like that. But
but the difference between being yes, I'm I'm tired. I
you know, I did this and I did that, and
(16:20):
I'm burnt out and now I kind of you know,
I need to just give this a rest versus girl,
I've been having all my ideas running through my mind
all day. You know, my feet are tired from me
running through my mind all day. I mean, right, So
(16:45):
that's a little bit different. Be be a little more
productive before you say life, that's that's all I'm saying.
What would have you done lately for yourself? What have
you done for you lately? You know, my old schools
to get it. But yeah, well, what do you think
about the difference between resting and and and avoidance?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I mean, well, you also have to take a second.
You got to step back and apply action of resolution
versus no thought to a resolution. You gotta you gotta sure,
you're applying some type of action. Like even from our
last show with with with clarity comes action.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
So when you.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Sit there, you take a step back, you.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Take a look and survey everything that's going on. You
can come up with something versus you just rush into
it and you haven't really caught as much of it
through as you could.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
And I actually I love that. Excuse me, I've been
able to kind of apply that to some things in
my life with that clarity comes with action. You know,
it's not necessarily caushing into it, but it's making a
first step. There's been some other things going on in
my life where I've been a little confused, but remembering
(18:07):
with clarity comes action. So shout out to Melissa mone
for that. Yeah, I gotta higher brand. But taking even
a first step to something being like okay, so now
I know what comes next versus I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Nothing at all and you just went I like that.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
With clarity cosaction. I like that. And even with that,
there is a when we talk about general rest versus avoidance.
So sometimes you just have to kind of you know,
the old and new saying give it to God, kind
(18:52):
of like just having the faith over for your kind
of aspect of it where you can kind of just
go with the flow with things, see how things are
gonna pan out, versus you literally spending wasted energy trying
to go around something. You know. So that's what we
mean by the rest of something, trusting in something, still
(19:15):
actioning something. But you know, I'm kind of seeing where
that goes. How that is, so that fake over fear
is a good factor of resting versus avoidance.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, that's true. It's true.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
And I mean and I've read an article actually probably
I don't even remember how long ago it was, but
it was like in psychology today, and it actually talked
about the three piece of procrastination, like what we're talking about,
the perfection, pleasing or which is also sometimes place with
the procrastination, and paralysis. Each of those continuous it leads
(20:00):
to the nets, which leave you feeling stuck, unaccomplished, like
you you feel like you haven't done anything because all
of these things have started to take effect and each
one leads to the next one. This is where the
need to please others ties into the failure or the
fear of failure, and it creates that avoidance that we
(20:23):
were just talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
You.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Like, even with the first perfectionism, the fear of not
doing something perfect, it's usually geared by or it leads to.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
People pleasing.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
That's true. That's true because who are you trying to
make it perfect for?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Mm hmmm, right, it's almost down.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Like you're scared to fail for somebody else? Yep, who
are you doing it for? And that typically can cause
being overwhelmed. And if you think about it, like right now,
the way content creation is the way as quickly as
a video a TikTok can be made. Trying to people
(21:12):
please can be very overwhelmed. Depending on how many followers
followers you have, right, Uh, let's just say you've got
a million followers with a million different personalities. Now we
can just go ahead and break it down to a
science and say, you know, a third thinks this and
a third thinks this. You can ration it out if
you want to. But even then, a third of a million,
(21:33):
you know that that's a lot of people pleasing. That's
a lot of ways to pull yourself in different ways
and and not be yourself. And one of the things
that does lead to procrastinating is not being yourself. Now
(21:53):
we're people pleasing and trying to do what everybody needs
us to do. And now we are procrastinating because we
don't have the perfect thing for everybody, or you're trying
to do the perfect.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Thing for everybody, right, yeah, and now we're.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Back to procrastinating, which you know causes the inaction. Now
you're overwhelmed. What do I do? I gotta do this,
and I gotta do this. I told you that there's
sometimes that I think about so many things I have
to do that I'm tired. Like I said, my feet
have been running through my mind.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
All day, right, which leads you to paralysis, because now
you've stud the whole perfect idea, and that's where that
toxic cycle begins.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
It starts right back there.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah. Well, I mean and you say toxic cycle. You
say toxic cycle no, because, like you said, paralysis, because
now I'm here going wait where do I start again?
That's sometime on my content creation days and I tell you,
like you'll call me and say, hey, you know where
(23:08):
you with this and that? And I'm like, I'm thinking, okay,
all right, well be thinking. I high let you a
little bit later, and you know, I catch up with
my day and do other things and then try to
come back to that, like, hey, where you are? Where
are you with that? This is what I've done blah
blah blah. And I'm like, oh, I've done this, Okay,
where are we that with this other thing I was
(23:28):
thinking over? And you know, even with this, it's a
like I said, it can be a toxic cycle. But
there are some hidden benefits of waiting, not procrastinating. Not
to be confused with procrastinating. Okay, I'm just trying to
(23:50):
make it sound better, but there are some benefits to
the hold up. Okay, you know me, I will play
that word dictionary with me and everybody else. It can
help you avoid making hasty decisions, decisions right when you
let a decision kind of simmer for a minute.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
You know, if here anything like me, you ain't gonna
discuss it with everybody. So sometimes you need to pray
about it, think about it, kind of see how things
pan out. Also, sometimes it builds character with patience and resilience.
You kind of got to wait on some things.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
You sometimes you gotta.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Wait on how some things pan out, and you want
to make sure that you're making the right decisions. Some
things you kind of look at and like I need
to wait to see what's gonna happen with.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
This with that no, no, and I get that, I
get that, And you know, I think you had.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Said something about that's where discernment comes in a lot
of times too. You need to know when to give
your energy and when not to. So that does play
a big part.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah, does obedience.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yes, huge, another show, this show, another show, all the
shows obedience. And you know, also, one of the things
about waiting, not necessarily procrastinating, but just kind of patiently
procrastinating on some things, is that it helps you appreciate
(25:19):
some things even more when you wait on some things.
I am going into some new ventures and I'm gonna
talk about it right now. But there's some things that
I'm trying out, you know, just gonna kind of try out.
And they're some things you have to kind of piece together, right,
you gotta put together. Yeah, And so, like we were saying,
(25:43):
sometimes you have to sit back and look at some things.
And that's what's going on with this. I have to
patiently wait on putting some things and tapping back to
giving some general rest to something versus just avoiding something
right now. On some things I have to give some
general rest. But I can say that probably because I
avoided some things before have led me to why I
(26:06):
got to take a seat. And that's another thing. Don't
miss that that that window jas and I've talked about
that window too. Yeah, you know, you don't want to
miss that that opportunity because then you're on a hustle
and bustle trying to catch up to the next opportunity. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, And I can understand that. I can understand that.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
And I mean by patiently waiting, you can it can
reduce the stress and the anxiety if you let it.
So learning to resist that temptation and the immediate rewards
to focus on the long term success, that can give
you a different type of gratification. So I mean sometimes
(26:46):
it's okay, I mean, what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Uh, definitely a different type of gratification. I I'm gonna
just say this that whole Okay, this is what I
did with this. I took this and I placed it
to tomorrow. I mean, now, if you are somebody who
(27:11):
can stick by if I placed it to tomorrow, that
has to get done tomorrow. You know that's good. Some things, again,
you have to wait till tomorrow to get that done.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
But then are you going to do it?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
So you definitely want to follow up on that. So
I get that. So we've tapped into a little bit
of what procrastination is and how to identify it and
stuff like that, and how sometimes patiently procrastinating can be beneficial, right,
it can kind of work in your benefit as far
(27:43):
as your decision making. But now we need to turn
that patience slash procrastination because we now we need to
turn it into action. We don't want to, you know,
delay gratification too much because sometimes you do deserve that.
Sometimes you do deserve it, and you're holding yourself back,
(28:05):
especially if you've pushed other people up and helped other
people get it, Why isn't it your turn? So make
sure that you're learning that. But now what So now
we want to learn how to stop procrastinating and you
got to do a bit by bit. But it has
shown it has been shown to kind of boost your
(28:26):
motivation and boost your self trust, your mood overall. Because
now we're taking the steps. Like I said, you take
that first step and now you're like, okay, now what's next.
You feel a little more confident that you can keep stepping,
just like a baby who takes baby steps. Yeah, you
gotta take that first step. Even if you want to
take off running at some point, you will never run
(28:47):
if you don't step.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
So some of the things that you can do to
turn this patience into action, turn this procrastination. Let's go
ahead and say what it is into action. Is one
of the things that I know that is personal to
me is you got to get up and show up. Yeah,
real cut, clean, show up. If you follow the podcast,
(29:13):
one of my first shows was when I said I
was talking to God about some different things going on
in my life, losing my dad being one of them
earlier this year, and when I asked him, now, what
am I supposed to do? And he said show up?
And again I'm like, show up for who? Because I'm
trying to do some stuff for me while I'm looking
(29:33):
for you. Who am I showing up for? Like I said,
God is real clean cut, show up. So I've been
showing up wherever I can do whatever I can however
I can. Sometimes I need to take that step for
me and not just be running a marathon for other people.
But that's another show. And you know, you gotta take
(29:55):
that position, whatever the time comes, like I said, whenever
it is, whatever you gotta do. Sometimes the greatest thing
and the most important thing you can do is just
taking that first step to showing up.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, so we definitely want to do that.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
For ourselves and other people.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Support your supporters, right yep, yep in the least yep yep.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I mean, and even also do other like small things
to to once you've shown up, you can create find
a simple routine that helps get you moving moving, Like
you said, you're getting out there, You're going places, meeting
new people. You know, you're we've both started working out.
We've challenged each other to you know, do different sets,
(30:40):
and you know, even though we're in different states, we're
challenging each other to work out and do better each day.
So those little things, you know, and of course make
some create some self imposed deadlines, give yourself some time
limits to do some stuff. I know you and I
I've talked about, you know, creating schedules and following it
(31:04):
like we both have been on a recommend you know,
and it does help when you follow that routine, when
you have a written down or even if you have
like a digital journal or hey, jem and I keep
this or paid Google or whoever, keep this in my
calendar so that I know that at this time I
need to do this or whatever I'm doing. So all
(31:26):
those things help to get you out of that patiently
procrastinating stage.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I know.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
For me, like you said, you just got to get
up and show up, like even if you don't feel
like doing it. Like I know, there's been so many
mornings where it's like, oh my god, it's four forty five,
I don't feel like working out today. But once I
work out and get it done, I feel so much
better my day. Right, I can think better, you know,
(31:54):
I follow I'm following between I hate it getting up,
getting in the cold and freezing, but once you get
it done, it's done and you're good for the rest
of the day. Like those little things to make things
better in your life. So you got to take those step.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
And one of the things that you just said is
that I don't feel like going, but then I feel better.
And we talk a lot about feelings, right, we don't
let our feelings get in the way of our purpose.
So it's okay to feel it's not okay to stay
there and let it get in away your purpose. Yes, so,
and that's a big part of procrastination. Sometimes you don't
(32:32):
know that it is getting in a way of your
purpose because you don't know your purpose. The point is
get out there what I think Jessie and I have
talked about it before, and I've said it in the
podcast before too, where God has said that he wants
me to be a bridge, not a bitch. I want
when people see you and meet you and they know
who you are, I want them to know that you
(32:54):
are somebody who can lead them to something, not somebody
who's just gonna sit on some stuff. And now, even
on the flip side to that, I can probably lead
a herd to watter yep, and then I'd be thirsty.
And then I don't drink, if you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah, because I feel like, no, no, no, y'all could drink.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I'll be okay. I'm gonna wait till the next stop, patient, patient,
I can wait till the next stop. I just want
to make sure everybody all right. Cool, but definitely, and
the self imposed deadline. I like that. I like that
because one of the things that I use that for
myself laundry, laundry.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Off off top laundry.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I I'm not gonna say I dread it because that
just sounds like I don't like to do housework, but
I do. Laundry is my least favorite, right, so I
do do a self imposed deadline, like I'll see what
time it is or whatever, and go all right, let
me see if you can do this. Talk to myself, right,
let me see it. You can just knock this out
(34:01):
real quick, in like fifteen minutes, Like it doesn't take
all day to do nothing. No nothing. You can only
do a load at a time unless you don't went
to the washhouse. And then I get it. And then
those are the ones that are excused by me. I
get it. Okay, you go to the washhouse, you got
like you just gonna do it for the week. I'm
gonna tell you, don't leave that laundry, Matt without folding
(34:23):
that laundry. Dude, you take that laundry home, you're gonna
be picking drink it out, wrinkled clothes. I was just
come on, like you might get that first week out
with don't leave that laundry, Matt. And I understand why
my mom did that with me and my brothers and
my sisters. Like when I drop y'all off, by the
time I pick it up, pick y'all up, the laundry
(34:45):
should be folded.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yep. I just want to put it away when I
get home.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
You know why, because that takes away from the time
we need to be doing at home. So the time
that my mom allotted or we allot ourselves to do
laundry is for that so that we can move on
to something else. Doesn't delay the process, right, all right, Sorry,
we don't want to get all into that, but that
was really good. So, like I said, we've talked about
(35:10):
what procrastination is. We talked about defining it. We've talked
about knowing who's wearing the shoe right, We've talked about
some benefits that can be from procrastinating or just patiently procrastinating.
And we've talked about how to kind of get some
things into action, some of the things that you can
do to kind of get moving. Always always and first, first,
(35:33):
and always take the step. I don't care what it is.
And man, this hit me so hard this evening. Y'all
will have to excuse me because I'm gonna take all
of this advice and all of this stuff myself, and
so you might see a different meat because I have
(35:54):
been letting some of my flings and in the way
of my purposes. I have been told to do some
things and feel a little freeer with who I am
and what I do. And I've been patiently waiting for
that perfect moment. Bless trust me. Me and God we
talk a lot, you know. I mean, he don't talk
much because he said he said what he said, I
am who I am, and I said, I am said
(36:17):
what I told you to do? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Done.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
That's where I'm at. So at this point, he's getting
a little tougher the love. The love is getting tougher,
and it's time to just do what you called to do.
You covered and called to do what you need to do.
So uh, before we bring this to a close, there
is a lot of approach to procrastination. You can inject
(36:41):
a little bit of humor into your day when you're
struggling with some procrastination, because humor reminds us of our
common humanity that we will procrastinate. We will have some
fears and securities and stuff like that. Right, how normal
it is to procrastinate. But it will will pass. It
will pass if that's what you wanted to do. So
(37:07):
I found a couple of quotes that I thought was
kind of funny, and then we'll go ahead and wrap
this up. I just want you guys to kind of
think of some things. And you know, as funny as
these quotes may seem, they are real, you know, and
I do approve these messages. So tomorrow is often the
busiest day of the week. Tomorrow is often the busiest
(37:31):
day a week. I keep putting it off and then
now I can't get to that. I got too much
to do today when it's but it's tomorrow, and that's
when you're supposed to do that. The sooner I fall behind,
the more time I have to catch up. Okay, okay.
(37:56):
One of my favorites, because I talk about crunch time
a lot, here's one of my favorites. I do my
work at the same time each day, at the last minute.
I'm sure my procrastination is I told you perfect, And
there's no such thing as perfect, right, perfect patient, patient procrastinator,
(38:17):
because my procrastination is structured, thank you very much. When
I put it off, I make sure I put it
off at a certain time that I can put it
off again. Just kidding, just kidding, don't use that, Yeah,
cal that I really wanted to share though. Procrastination taught
me how to do thirty minutes of work in eight hours,
(38:39):
and eight hours of work in thirty minutes. When you
say make it makes sense, I'm gonna say it again
just in case you don't catch it, and then you're
gonna have to catch it at the replay. Procrastination has
taught me to do thirty minutes of work in eight hours,
(39:00):
and eight hours of working thirty minutes crunch time.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
And this is one that.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
This is one that somebody wanted me to throw in,
and I'm cool with this one. This was kind of cool.
If you wait until the last minute, then it'll only
take a minute to do I should have threw that
in in the benefits of waiting, because I mean the
last minute, then I could do it real quick. Right.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Where'd you get this? Like a kid's joke book?
Speaker 1 (39:32):
This works for some, it doesn't work for all. Hey,
if you're either gonna wear it and be comfortable with it,
or you're gonna take it off, Okay, And that's what
the spot the show was really coming about. I will
pull some follow up things because I still got some
more jokes for you folks at bars, So I still
(39:52):
want to follow up on this because again, like I
told you stop that is but no, it's like I said,
this really hit hard for me. And you know, Jazz
and I have had this thing where threes have come
up in our lives, and we joked about it years
ago when we were talking about taking a trip and
(40:14):
it was three months away and we were like, Okay,
we got three months, but we know that three months
can turn into three weeks, that can turn into three
days and then three hours before we have to board
the plane. So we we're just joking around in that
and ironically it's really not a joke because now we
both have things going on in our lives. What this
is now probably like four years later, right, and and
(40:37):
the threes are coming up. We're you know, went from
three months, the three weeks, the three days, and I'm
really talking to Jazzy's on the three day mission, and
I hope we get to follow up with her to
make sure that her journey was wonderful and safe and
that that three days really came to fruition like we
prayed and manifested. So luck on your journey. We're not
(41:00):
you know, do that yet, but I hope to have
you back on the next show. If not, I know
it's because you are working things out.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
So we will just look on that.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
And I want to thank everybody for joining Shining and
Jazzy with today on the Patient Procrastinator. I hope you
learned some things. Reach on, teach many. If you didn't
really catch some things, remember to play that back. I
will be playing the replay so you can catch that
and catch me in Jazzy and again, I salute you,
Jazzy and everything that you're gonna do. Take these three
(41:30):
days and take off. Okay, everybody, continue to follow us again.
I'll be posting the replay in some ways to follow
us and join us next time on Bad to Business.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
I am Shining.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Love y'all have a good weekend.
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