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This is daughter Issues. Get everysingle episode plus video and talk to us
in the comments at daughterpod dot com. Should we tell them my back is
messed up? Probably if you're Imight be wincing it. I don't think

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you're gonna be able to fight throughit. I think you'll fight through it,
but you're gonna be like and they'regonna be like, David has cancer,
So you should definitely tell them,no, it's I. I stood
up and cleared my throat. Atthe same time, I was kind of
twisting. What you can't do whenyou're over forty, I'll be standing up

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and twisting and clearing your throat.It was that while I was standing up
and turning my body. Not agood look. So it hurts, and
it's weird. I think I pulledsomething right in the middle. I pulled
my spleen or my esophagus, mabdomen, back chest, the back,

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chest, kidney muscle, something rightin the center. Went You're going to
take a nap for three days.So that's what we're dealing with right now.
Hurt's pretty bad. It sucks.Just certain certain movements where I'm like,
it's just a catch. It's moreof a catch it's when you're trying
to get up or sit down andsomething goes nah. But once you get

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up, you're it's like, don'tdon't do that. Yeah, not that
angle, right, But if youtilt your head a little and scoot,
that's how cramps feel. That's that'ssimilar to cramps and standing up the girl
stuff. Yeah, it's very similar. You'll go to stand up, whether
you have to in the middle ofyou cramp and you're like, Nope,
can't do that, or if youhave to stand up. That's why you

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see me before, I was walkingaround like at an angle, remember me
doing that? Walking around like you'relike, now you know it's just that
certain angle that only feels comfortable enoughto Yeah, it's terrible. Yeah,
So now I know what it's liketo give birth basically, right, not
the most painful thing I've ever beenthrough. Speaking of birth and new beginnings,
what type of inc you got overthere? Oh? This little thing,

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that little thing, just a littlelittle tatty tat Really, I bet
everyone's like, did he have onebefore? Did he lean against a wall?
What is that? Did he getdirty? It's really cool though.
Yeah, this is my my newtattoo, my new tattoo, give him
a little tour, show him thatyou gotta show a tattour, lift up
the show him the so from faraway, it's basically, uh oh,

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the people listening on audio only,I'm sorry. Go to daughterpod dot com
you can get the video. Justto look at the tattoo. Go back.
It's just a honeycomb kind of thing, not really honeycomb, but it's
honeycomb shapes. It's hexagons. Andthe idea is to fill in stuff that's
important to me throughout my life.And so most of them are blank,

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and I'll continue to add more downthe bottom of the sleeves sleeve. This
is considered a three quarter sleeve,is what my tattoo artist told me.
And so I've got three main prominenthexagons filled in. The first one at
the top is a broken smiley face, which to me represents stand up comedy

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because you know, for obvious reasons, broken and funny, just fighting through
with the funny you go. Andthen this is two interstate signs. One
is or highway in an interstate interstatetwenty where I grew up in Texas,
and the one oh one in California. So I wanted something to represent Texas
and some have to represent California.And I saw a rapper with a giant

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Interstate forty sign, a blue Interstateforty sign on his chest, and I
was like, Ah, that's sucha good idea. So I was like,
that's a perfect representation. Otherwise itwas going to be something like the
flags or a star or something generic, and I was like the interstate.
When I saw that forty, Iwas like, I grew up right next
to I twenty like that. Thatwas really cool. And then how often
are we on the one oh oneconstantly out here? Yeah, it's literally

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known as the Hollywood Freeway, sothat's cool. And then on the back,
I got to turn around a littlebit with my new back injury.
So we'll see how this is gonnago. The story behind this little guy,
I'll get you. Let you lookat it first, then i'll talk
about it to Lissa. And Ireally bonded over SpongeBob back in the day
when you were a little baby,pretty much your whole childhood. That's all

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we did. I still Watchebob everyday. I watched it this morning and
last night. We would cut alongthe couch. When you were like six
or seven or four and two andten. And that's that's the first thing
I taught you had to measure timebecause SpongeBob came out in eleven minute episodes,
and there were two eleven minute episodesback to back, which made for
a twenty two minute half hour sitcom. And so if I needed to do

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something with Telissa that was like thirtyminutes long, and she'd be like,
how long, dad, I'd belike, three spongebobs because she knew it
was about eleven minutes, so Irounded it to ten, and she would
know that we've got about thirty minutesor three spongebobs. I would tell you,
No, I didn't go, oh, thirty minutes. I just went
three spongebobs. Like I literally wasjust like, that's that makes sense to

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me. But if you were tellingme thirty minutes, I was like,
so it sounds like so far,Yeah, thirty minutes like three spongebobs.
She's like, I can do that. I've set for three spongebobs. Yeah,
exactly. So that and then we'vealways had this thing where we fist
bump. I don't we've ever doneit on camera, no, but we've
always in order to do our agreements, like a handshake, we fist bump
and go, and so that wasalways our thing. So she said,

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I asked her if, I said, if I were to get a tattoo
for you, what would it be? And she's, I mean, this
little cheesy drawing of SpongeBob and Patrick. It's cute, but I was trying
to go for something cool, blackand gray realism from a dope ass tattoo
artist in Hollywood that literally tattoos Taigaand Little Dirk and Little Uzi Vert.
I mean, some of the mostfamous rappers in the world get tattooed by

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this guy. And I'm like,I'm not going to have him do stick
figures. So I was like,what else you got? And then she
said maybe the fist bump emoji,and I was like, Patrick and SpongeBob
fist bumping. So there it is. I love the flower in the back
too, like the sky. Ifyou know SpongeBob and Patrick, you know
you immediately recognize the flower. Yeah, well, if you know sponge Rob

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and Patrick, you immediately recognize theanimation of the hands, and then the
flower obviously is an ultimate giveaway.But I think it's really dope. Well,
I love them. It's awesome.Yeah, and then my tattoo.
Kidding. I wanted to originally justput these in the honeycombs, like just
in the hexagons, and this artistwas like he actually, this is going

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to sound like I'm talking shit,but he was like, David, He's
like, your arm is too broadto just stick those in little bit of
hexagons. He said, it's gonnalook silly because you have so much real
estate. And I was like,say it again for the people in the
room. He's like, you gotso much real estate in your arm that
it's gonna look silly with the onelittle thing. He's like, he goes
like, gotta go bigger on yourarm, and I was like, I

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understand, but it's it's everybody.It's not just me. It's the fact
that the bicep is a large areain it. So I let him.
I let him lay it down,yeah, and then do this like messy
sort of floating layer on top.And so the rest of them are probably
gonna be set in there, butthis these first three he floated on top,

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and we're probably gonna do another bigone right here on the bottom of
the forearm. So we'll do anotherbig one here and then more little ones
around it. Yeah. Well,I like too that he made that decision
because a lot of the time,especially from any shoulder angle that like right
now, having a little stuff,it'll be like, okay, there's a
tattoo, but I would have toget closer to see it. But if
I just look at your shoulder,I can see that it's a broken smiling
So like something bigger on the shoulder, I think is always cool. If

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you notice, like a lot ofthe sleeves kind of go big and then
they kind of trickle down. Yeah, a bunch of a bunch of other
stuff, But I think it looksbest that way. I think so the
way he did the shading on thisfrom just the right angle, it looks
like you could peel this off.Yeah, Like that smiley face is kind
of hovering with the layers. It'slighter here and darker here. He did
the same thing with the interstate sides. It's lighter here, darker here the

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north. If you notice in theone on one they're smaller here than they
get bigger as they go. Like, just the way he did it is
just so good. All the littleattention to detail, even the shading in
the middle. He has the ideaof the light source coming from me outward
toward my arm. Mm hmm.It's just really cool. I love his
work. His name is Alejandro Ruiz. I think it's Alejandro dot Ruiz on

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Instagram and on TikTok it's Ruiz dotartist. You should go follow him.
He's insanely talented. Yeah, he'sreally cool. And that was if you
guys don't know, his first tattoo, and it was an eight hour long
quarter sleeve or whatever he called it. That to me was ridiculous and ridiculous
ridiculous to a lot of other peoplebecause like, I have some tattoos,

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but like I'm gonna give them filledin, but like these are like what
an hour twenty thirty minutes long?Like nothing. I would never go for
my first tattoo eight hours. Idon't know a lot of people who would
do that. So it was alittle little insane and membrane must My favorite
story of the whole thing is aguy goes walking by that was getting a

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tattoo on his leg or something.He went walking by and he had tattoos,
so he had a mohawk and hehad tattoos on the side of his
head and some on his face allthe way down his neck, and his
whole right side was tatted, andthen he had a left arm sleeve.
He was wearing shorts, and hewas getting something on his left calf.
I mean, the guy had probablyeasily fifty sixty grand with the tattoos on
him, including his side of hisskull in parts of his face. And

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he goes walking by and he leansover and he goes, oh, that
looks dope, man, and Igo thank you. And then my tattoo
artist goes, it's his first tattoo. And they were almost done. I
was at like hour seven and thisguy goes. This guy goes, that's
your first tattoo, and I waslike yeah. He goes, bro,
you're crazy, Like I'm crazy.I like, look at you your face

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and he's like yeah, yeah,but this is years. Man. There's
no way I would have done thatfor my first one. And I was
like, Okay, I feel betterabout it. Yeah he thinks I'm crazy.
I feel good about sitting in thischair. But my first one was
my was NILA's paupprint. NILA's papprint was my first one, and that.
I mean, it's in a spotwhere see yeah, yeah, and
it's it's actually a pretty sensitive spotthat like that under up is pretty like

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stingy. Yeah, but like peoplesay that this sucks too. Down here
really sucked. But the motorcycle.Yeah, but like I just the easiest
part for me was the top ofthe forearm, like this right here.
When he started this part on myforearm, I actually said that feels kind
of good. It kind of feltlike he was just scratching back like I
could have gone to sleep, andI was like, ah, this is
gonna be cake, and he goes, just wait. He's from Venezuela.

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I can't do the accent, buthe was like, just just wait,
yeah, and I was like whatever, man our seven. I was like,
it's like, can you give methirty seconds to breathe through this one?
So yeah, it was a lot. And he says it's normal for
the power the pain to be hardat first and then immediately drop off,
and then by hour four or five, the pain starts to come back in

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skyrocket and continues to get worse thelonger you go. So going eight hours
was I've heard of people breaking uptheir sessions because of that because of how
I definitely would I think my nextone, I'm going to do smaller sessions
for sure. People I think whatthey do, like three four hour sessions,
and we'll like try and do thatbecause of what you're saying, it
starts getting bad and then at thatdip they just go, Okay, now

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I'm done and then I'll come backtomorrow, so they'd keep having this instead
of it going back. But sometimespeople don't have time for that and they
just want to get it done andjust that's it. Yeah. I mean
there are some people that go infor a I saw a guy on online
did a full front chest and shoulder, entire upper torso tattoo for ten hours,
came back the next day and didhis entire back. I was like,

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that's stressful. You have to putme out for that. You know,
good Tattoo Where I got my tattoo, they offer that service. In
fact, Little Uzi Vert and Tigerboth got put completely to sleep and four
or five artists get on their backat one time and start tattooing. And
little Dirk you know the giant blackskull on Little Dirk's back, No,

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look it up, it is sick. We look for your phone. The
skull on Little Dirk's back is sodope, really, but and it was
like five artists did it at atGanga Tattoo. But they don't do it
at the tattoo studio. They goto a medical facility and they have an
anesthesiologist put you out for like eighthours and these all all these guys jump

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on you at one time and knockit out. See, I'd probably I'd
do that. The thing that makesme nervous about that because I'm in art
is art for me is very developed. It develops for me. So that's
why I like getting these because Iknow I have ideas for the future and
I know if I want to,I can always change it. But to
just get a full back piece anda full front piece and one's done,
that's scary to me. I wantto leave so I can change it,

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so I can like make you knowwhat I mean. Like that kind of
gives me a little bit of safety. That's like I don't have those types
of balls just to be able tobe like put me out and do everything
like well, I mean, theyspend days and weeks like drawing out the
design and my guy Alejandro does everythingdigitally on like an iPad, So if
you want something moved, he canjust slide it over a little bit.
You have to erase the whole thing. Yeah, no, he doesn't have

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to start over. He doesn't doit in a notepad, so everything's digital.
He could send it back and forththrough Instagram and like you know.
And then and then when I went, he actually, if you watch the
video that I posted, he actuallywrapped my arm in plastic and then drew
on it and like made little drawings. He's like x here, x here.
He's like, this is where Iwant your big ones. This where
I want your small ones. Hedid the small ones in blue, the

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big ones in red, so wecould tell the difference as to where the
big and smalls we're going to be. Because he's like, I want you
to be able, like you needto know where to put the big ones
and where to put the small ones, and I don't know. And then
he cuts it off me because hetightens it around me, really tight draws
on it and then off me andlays it out. And then he went
to that and started designing on hisiPad and then made the stencil and then

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broke the stencil up into three piecesand then put it on and then if
I didn't like where it was,we would take it off and put it
back on. But I liked hisfirst placement, so I was like,
let's go. Yeah, I mean, he knows I mean, and I
kept saying that too. I waslike, you're the professional, Like,
let's do what you want to do. One thing I'm definitely gonna take is
something that I like. If youlook at all the screenshots on my phone,
it's basically all just tattoo ideas ofwhat I want. And one thing

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that I really love that I amtaking from that is like the stone from
the Smiley Face. That stone islike what I want my walls to be.
That's what I want. I lovehow that stone looks and how he's
using the skin as the highlights inthat instead of creating his own highlights with
whatever else he's using Like, likethat to me is really cool. So
I want to get something like rocksbalancing or something. I have a more

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of a story behind that. Thatspecific look of that smiley face. So
he has a signature to design hedoes. It's this face in a heart,
oh, but it has an upsidedown cross in the middle. Of
the forehead and it's in a heart, and he takes that and he puts
it all over Los Angeles. Sohe just walks up and sticks at places.

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He's got this little thing that hecarries. It's a heart, and
he's like, he just wants tospread love. He wants to spread happiness,
he wants to spread peace. Yeah, and so he does it.
And I saw I was ask himabout it, and when I first met
him, I was like, Isee you've done this, this smiley faced
heart thing. I was like,what's the story behind it? And he
said during COVID he couldn't work He'sa tattoo artist obviously, and he couldn't
work on people. And he's like, so many of his friends were like

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going crazy or going super broke,and he's like, I just wanted to
make something that was representative of pushingthrough and being happy during a tough time.
He's like, so I made asmiley face out of stone, He's
like, and then I decided toform it in the shape of a heart
so it represents love, and thenspread it all over Los Angeles. So
when I saw that, I waslike, I was like, I want

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since this is my first tattoo.He's the first artist I've let tattoo me.
I was like, I want totake that signature piece, but put
it in my hexagon shape and forme it'll represent the stand up comedy.
But I want to know the storybehind it. And I said, just
just take the cross out of theforehead. Yeah, I didn't want the
upside down cross in there, andso yeah, so that if you look
him up, that's that's one ofhis signature designs and that's why I put

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it at the top. So,man, I want him to do my
stuff. Let's do it. Let'sline it up. I want him to
go over my motorcycle. He will, he will, And he's incredibly talented.
So but he's probably expensive a littlebit considering Tiger, Yeah, a
little bit. He's he's expensive.I don't people keep asking with this cost
and I'm I'm not telling him becauseit's it. You need to you need

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to talk to him about his sessionrate, because you know, whatever you
get. Like, most of thestuff he does is super realistic. Mine's
kind of cartoony and fun and bubblyand weird. He does a lot of
really dark stuff he does, likeportrait style stuff. He does like his
wife is incredible with portraits. Yeah, Like the guy across from me was

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getting a portrait from his wife andthe thing looked like he was about to
talk to me, like it wasbeyond she get her off that arm.
No, but it was shockingly good. Shocking Maybe I should do it?
Guys, what become a tattooer?Yeah, I think you'd be great at
it. I feel like i'd havea lot of fun. I just don't

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want a tattoo on people dogs.No, like something else, like couches
or something like a white couch.Let me tattoo your white couch, you
know. I think they call thatpainting. No, yeah, No,
you would be good at it.So what are your thoughts overall on getting

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tattoos? Like when you first startedgetting yours, I wasn't too happy about
it because of how young you weredoing permanent changes to your body. But
what are your thoughts on it?Like, before I go too deep into
my thoughts as far as getting tattoosin general, Yeah, tattoos are like,
I mean, it sounds cliche andit's like it's one of those things

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where it's so stereotypical but it's stilltrue. But it's almost forgotten about because
it's so stereotypical and it's like,this is your only life. And so
for some people that's enough of reasonfor them to go, yeah, that's
why I don't want anything on itbecause it's my only life. But for
me, I go, yeah,it's your only life. And if you're
artsy and you feel like it andthe only thing that's stopping you is because

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it's permanent, that's a little crazyto me. That's where I go,
Okay, come on, find yourwhat makes you happy. This is your
only life. Do how you doit isn't like it's not gonna be that
crazy, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like if you
gonna be stupid, you gotta besmart about it. Meaning if you're gonna
get it tattooed and get something permanent, maybe get someone that you've seen their

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work before. Is my only adviceother than that, research on the person,
on the person, make sure theneedles are clean. That's all really
it comes down to. Other thanthat. You know, if it's not
your thing, it's not your thing. But like, if the only thing
that is stopping you is because it'spermanent, here's get over it. You
know the number one what do youwhat do you think the number one challenges

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for like family members and friends andpeople that see with the tattoo, what's
the number one thing? They alwayssay, Oh, you're gonna get wrinklean,
not gonna lie when you're seventy five. Here's what hit me. Here's
when I I changed from that beingmy mindset, like when you're seventy five,
you're gonna look silly with that.I go show me one seventy five

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year old that gives a shit whatyou think about them. Exactly. They're
seventy five, They've nobody expects themto look amazing in a bikini, and
they're they're already gonna have issues.They's gonna they're taking a handful of pills
every day to stay alive. They'reyou know, if anything, they're gonna
benefit from the from from the tattoos. Because old people tend to look frail

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and weak when they're old. Butif you have tattoos like they've been through
something, they've been through, somethingthey've been through that I'm not gonna I'm
not gonna mess with them. Theidea is that who cares when you're It's
not like if I'm only saving allof this body as a canvas because when
I'm seventy five, someone might lookat it and not like it go to

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hell like I'm gonna. I'm notliving my entire life so that you don't
have to glance at something you don'tlike. Yeah, exactly, it might
be wrinkled, so at least mybody and it's my life. Care Well,
how I look at it too,is I would rather listen think about
it this way, would you?Okay, this is how I view myself
in the future. Skin Wise,naked mole rat wrinkle basis. Okay,

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just think about a naked it's wrinkle, no matter what naked mole rat,
right, how wrinkly they are naked. But now imagine a naked mole rat,
a naked mole rat. Tatto.There we go, English with some
designs on, with some designs onit. Now, which one would you
rather? Be? Right? Yougotta get wrinkling either way. Yeah,
you want ink on or not?I choose inc Now I will say I'm

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glad I waited. I was inmy forties. I still think it's not
a great idea for someone who's nineteenor eighteen to get tatted I don't know
a single person in their thirties orforties who loves every tattoo they got when
they were a kid. But soi'm you're definitely gonna regret some of the
stuff. If you don't already,you're definitely gonna regret some of the stuff

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you got. I like the waythat I did it. That's a good
point, and i'm i'm that's anotherthing I wanted to get into in just
a second. But the way Idid it, I think is smart to
go, even if you don't getthe whole sleeve all at once, plan
out the entire sleeve instead of goinga spot here, a spot here,
a spot here, spot here,and then try to make it flow later
unless your whole vibe is stuff thatdoesn't flow for me. And a lot

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of the advice I saw, Idid a lot of research. I was
watching tattoo give advice there people havebeen given tattoos for thirty years giving advice
for first time tattoo getters. Iwatched a lot of those videos and try
to follow those experts advice, andbasically they were like, try your best,
no matter how long your first sessionis going to be. To plan
all of your tattoos on that sideof the body ahead of time. So

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that's what I don't I well thatthat was their advice because it's gonna make
it harder on a future artist ifyou go back and go, I want
this and do a sleeve. Now, they've got to They have all these
obstacles like trying to work a spiderinto a motorcycle, separating or whatever.
That's separating yourself though, that's puttingall the art onto the creator. I
go whenever I get anything done atall. When I sit down with them,

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they automatically know I'm in control ofthis now, unless I go,
I want you to have some freerange and what you're doing. Then it's
like okay, but all they wantto do is make sure you're smiling when
you leave. So at the endof the day, like I feel like
for a certain type of person,for them to be like figure it out
like okay, they might have tofigure it out to be hard, But
for me, I'm gonna go onewith specific like this is what I want.

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I want to circle here, circlehere, splash here, do it.
That's how I am. That's howI am with my art. I
never sit down at my canvas andgo, this is exactly what I'm gonna
do, and then I do itand it goes out exactly how I did
it, and that never happens.Matter of fact, some of my best
pieces. I do some stuff andthen I wait a few months and and
then I look at it and I'mlike, I know what I want now,
and then I do it, andthen I'm like, that looks cool

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with how it how it is,because sometimes you know, that's that's how
I like it, and that's whyit scares me and why I don't want
to play on a full thing out. And then because you know, in
a week, I might have saw, you know, some screenshot of some
something that I could have been like, oh, I want to do that
instead, or I want to Wellfor me, I made sure too it
was stuff that is. The ideasare permanent. Yeah, The idea of

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being an actor, stand up comedianhas been such a huge part of my
life. SpongeBob and Patrick fist bumpingis my daughter that's never going to go
away. And then where I grewup and where I moved to to create
my life as an adult, allof those are permanent things. So even
if I were to move to Swedentomorrow. All of this is still a

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major, permanent fixture of my life. So I'm not going to get like
my favorite you know, football team, or my favorite you know some people
do. I would never do that. I would never just give even in
that though, even in that,you don't have to get it for the
football team. That could be evenif you don't like the football team in
the future, it could be Iremember those times. Those are really good
times for me. And that's whatthat football team reminds me of. And

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that's how I for about my tattoo, which takes me to my final point,
which is a friend of mine calledme from Texas and he was like,
bro, you got tatted like Inever thought you would do. The
what about when you're eighty? Andwhat about it? Had all this.
He wasn't being negative, but hewas like, bro, all the things
we heard our whole lives. AndI said, look, there's already a

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bunch of shit I don't like aboutme. I'm already not six' four,
I'm already not super skinny. Ialready don't have abs. I got
a little bald spot sometimes when myhair grows in, Like there's a million
things that if I wanted to change, or if I could change, I
would. So I'm not gonna beperfect and I don't care. I just

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adjust to life and I adapt andI am who I am. So if
I do end up getting a tattoothat later I don't like, guess what
I'm gonna adapt to it. I'mgonna adjust. I'm either gonna get it
covered up, worked around, orit's gonna be something for me to point
out and go, oh, yeah, that was dumb as hell, and
this is a stupid thing I did, and it's gonna be something to talk
about and bring people joy. Andso for me, like, we work

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around shit we don't like all thetime, so why not, Like it's
not that serious. And by theend we talked about an hour and a
half. By the end of it, he was literally picking out something to
get tattooed on him. And nowhe's like, he's looking into it,
and I said, he wants somethingthat looks like a stitch. And I
was like, oh, I've gotthe perfect person. I found someone on
TikTok that does they look like patchesand they look like they're like flowing in

(25:56):
the passaches. Yeah, And sohe wants to get a judas priests tattoo
of a patch on his back,and so now he's like picking out colors
and trying to get in touch withthe artists. And I'm like, that's
what it's about, man, It'sabout living and changing and growing as a
person exactly. I mean, Ithink the reason though that ideology was on
it to begin with, is becauseof boomers. Not to blame you guys,

(26:18):
but to say that in that time, and not to say that you
were wrong, but in that timeyou were taught you have this ink on
you, you are a loser,a crackhead, and you're not getting a
job. So it was so heavyin the moment. Why because you weren't
going to get a job. No, because the only people when we were
younger that had tattoos were people inprison or in the navy. That was
it. That's where tattoos started.People were getting tattoos when they went overseas

(26:45):
to join the military, or whenyou got locked in prison. You locked
in prison, tattoos marked what gangyou were in so that you could survive
in there. That's how it allstarted for us. Now, of course
there were tattoos way back in ancienthistory. You know, there's like a
couple of thousand year old like CarsoftCar Car Car cooffice mummies that had like
tattoos on them. Isn't there isn'tthere ones where they did you know what

(27:12):
I'm talking about on the back,But it wasn't ink. It's just scarring.
Yes, they still do that today. That's yep, what the hell,
I don't know what's going were beingattacked by a motorcycle gang outside catch
me next week with some scarring.Some patterns they do. They do that,

(27:33):
you know they still do. Haveyou seen the modern ones? Oh,
they do scartering on the faces.They do all kinds of scars.
The people that do, like thetongue splitting. Those are a little creepy.
I think we're I think we needto go have a party with them.
If you live in l A andyou have motorcycles, just don't rev
it all the time because you neverknow who might be recording a podcast.
You know, you're just out there, we're all right. What's funny is

(27:59):
they might not even hear some ofit. Yeah, and we're just bitching
about it anyway. So yeah,they're still scarring and a lot of that
stuff happened. I'm saying in theStates, that's how we were introduced to
it, is it was people inprison, people in the navy, and
then we find out later, likeyou know, two thousand years ago,
Egyptians were tattooing themselves, which iscool, but in our culture we didn't
know about it. So when ourgrandparents were growing up, it was just

(28:22):
a bunch of hooligans and military guysthat were like cheating on their wives and
getting into bar fights. Like itwasn't the respectable members of society were not
necessarily getting tattooed. And I'm gladthat changed. It's changed. When there
were times, yeah, piercing's purplehair. I mean, damn, Like
twenty years ago, there's no wayyou would have gone to a coffee shop
and seen someone with purple hair,a sleeve tattoo, and a nose ring

(28:45):
taking your order. It was unheardof. It was like that person doesn't
know how to respect themselves, thatperson and I always thought it was dumb,
even as a kid, I waslike, who cares if they can
make coffee? Why do you care? Like what they look like. I
was a little ahead of my time. People my age didn't think that way,
and I'm glad it's changed. Youknow, now you go to a

(29:07):
place, your real estate agent mighthave a tattoo and a face tattoo and
a nose ring. I still thinkit's fine. It's going to be controversial.
People in the comments are going todisagree. That's fine. But I
think for the most part, we'regrowing up as a society and going what
do you bring to the table,and what is your brain about and your
personality as opposed to me just puttingall these labels on you because I see
ink on your body. So Ithink. I remember even when I was

(29:30):
working. I was working at thismarket, and I remember like being a
cashier and doing having to press allthe buttons, and I remember having my
nails, and I remember like lookingfor a job and them like with the
job. I would get angry atthe fact that they would just be like,
no, you can't have nails,just because of how it looks.
But then other jobs would be like, no, you can't because we're working

(29:51):
with food. I'd be like,Okay, I get that, that's fine.
You would put on your latex glovesduring COVID and they would just poke
through. They just like Freddy Krueger. Who Freddy Krueger is? Yeah,
yeah, you know it's almost October. Who's Freddy Krueger? He's got the
knives? Yeah? But do youknow about him? Like, do you

(30:14):
know his story? How do youget like that? Cause he's been in
a lot of fights, Freddy Kruegerand his historical fights. No fire,
fire, That's what it was.That's what it looks like. It's like

(30:36):
he got in a fire and itjust plastered over. So what's the difference
between Jason and Michael. Jason hasthe mask and Michael doesn't have a mask,
does not have a mask. Hehas he's the one in the hoodie.
Oh, hat and stripes. Butbut the stripes are torn up,

(31:00):
the hat and stripes. So theperson with the hat and the stripes is
Michael Freddy Oh you just said thatwas Michael. Wait, Freddie Cougar?
What is it? He loved todate younger man, Freddy the Cougar,
Freddy Youruger. Well, we knowwhat we're gonna be doing in October.

(31:27):
Freddyru Bruger is a gun? FreddyFreddy crew Kruger Krueger, what is it?
Are you? I know his nameFreddie. Yeah, so tattoos.
No no, no, no,we're gonna do a whole episode. We're

(31:48):
gonna do We're gonna do horror episodes. Now you have you have given birth
to the ideas for October horror moviesfrom my childhood coming your way right here
on daughter issue. You actually inspiredme to get these tattoos. Did I
You did. You're not giving adamn and making mistakes as an eighteen nineteen
year old. I was like,you know what, I wouldn't have done

(32:09):
it at eighteen nineteen, but atforty three, I think I'm fine with
it. You should, so thankyou for the inspiration. He You're welcome,
and I think that's exactly like Idon't regret it, Like I don't
they we're not gonna do my tattootour, but like it's called a tattoo,
a tattooer mine. I knew likeI was either gonna turn it into

(32:30):
something really dope when I had moneymoney and you have like with this one,
for example, I knew I wasgonna have someone go over it and
I was gonna add some stuff.So I was fine with a rough draft.
I was cool with it. Iwas like, whatever, this turns
out to be let it be,because I'm gonna get some cool stuff over
it and get it professionally done anyway. I just don't probably do a realistic
version right on top of that.That would be so cool. But I

(32:51):
know I didn't, you know.I mainly did this with the idea that
the person going over it was justgonna be a more professional and make the
lines more like you know, butregardless. I got my tattoos with that
in mind. Instead of being like, that's gonna be there for the rest
of my life, I was like, that's the rough draft and I'm gonna,
you know, add on to it, and I'm okay with how they

(33:12):
look right now. The spot wouldbe easy to cover up anyway. It's
very thin. I like, Ilike the spider. I did this one
myself. I don't even know ifyou know that. What is it?
I have two? It looks weirdor is that a ring worm? It?
Even? See? Hold on on, I want to stand up so
you can see these two circles righthere. Yeah, daughterpod dot com is

(33:36):
where you can get the video.I did those myself with the stick and
poke, you know, yes,I do. That's what this was another
I technically had a little stick andpoke when I was a kid. It
wasn't a real tattoo. Oh thatone, yes, really really tiny.
Yeah, so I don't consider ita first tattoo. It was just stupid
stick and poke. Anyway, that'smy view on it. And thank you

(33:57):
for the inspiration. So that wasthe tattoer. Thanks so much for joining
us today. I think my tattoossmearing, then it's not a tattoo.
I hope you enjoyed today's episode.If you've been thinking about getting a tattooed,
this is your sign. Go doit. Come with me,
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