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October 3, 2025 51 mins
Dad quizzes Talissa (and her new cat) on old rock stars.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Frederick.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Everybody remembers that.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
It looks like what's his name?

Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's not Frederick.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Who get every single episode, last video and talk to
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Speaker 2 (00:37):
I am so excited about this one. We have some
fun stuff that's gonna be happening.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
I don't really know what you have plans.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
I have some stuff to show you. I have some
Today's theme is gonna be music, music, and I'm gonna
see if you recognize people, and I want you to
tell me what their names are and what they do.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Okay, Well, I have something to show you first though,
I know because I don't know what my episode, your
episode it is.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
When I get to you drove the gen Z. You
drove the gen Z slang one, I'm driving this one.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
When you figure out your script, then you can run
an episode. I have something to say. You're going to
ruin it, Okay, I just have.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
I just wanted to show you the producers right here.
I have the video to show.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
That's great. Just give me no, don't look, just don't
look what this is Clyde, Clyde, this is Clide.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well that makes it less annoying. Hey, hey, excuse me, Hey, Clyde.
They don't. I don't know if they know the history
behind that.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Be careful, Clyde. Tell me he's not the cutest thing ever.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Cute.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
That's all you can continue. He's gonna hang out with
us today.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Just you can.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Just like Clyde.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
He's he's pretty. He's pretty.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
So here's the history, might baby boy? Where? Why do
you have another cat?

Speaker 1 (02:26):
What? I rescued him along with him and his siblings.
He has four siblings. He's just my favorite currently because
of his cute face and how he acts.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
But he rescued all of them. I did. Are you
going to keep them all? Or are you looking at.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
I might keep him because of how darn cute he is.
But he has some super cute siblings.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
That are.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
More white and have other colorings. You could tell they're
They're all kind of like they look like different types
of cat. They don't look like siblings, but they are siblings.
They've been inside they were born. But I'm gonna get
his siblings adopted, for sure. I'm just fostering, just fostering,
But I might keep him because it's he likes you.

(03:12):
I gotta cry get.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Him picking that up. Danny the Purr.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Okay, or maybe you you like him? Maybe he was.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
He was irritating to me until I heard his name.
He was he he's pretty cute.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
That's your middle name for people who don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, so I don't don't typically say that. And that's
what the C stands for. And David C. Smalley. And
here's a little backstory. By the way, his ass just
went all over your straw. So I hope you're ready
for a special flavor here, machia. Yeah, so my wife
has gotten me used to cats. I wasn't a fan

(04:01):
it for. Oh okay, all right, hey wait I have
something even better. Wait, no, let's okay again. Oh god, okay,
Well I don't think that's getting captured on the camera.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Well here, look, okay, okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
So, so my my mom, So my dad's name. Oh,
this is the only time I'm ever going to tell
this story on the show. So my dad's name was
Clyde David Smalley. Yeah, and my mom wanted to name
me after my dad, but she didn't want me to
be a junior because she didn't want people calling me junior.

(04:40):
My whole life was what she wanted. She wanted me
to have my own identity. So she just took his
first and middle name and swapped him. So he was
Clyde David and I was David Clyde. And so I
guess what backfired on it is that my dad hated
the name Clyde, and so he told everybody to call

(05:01):
him David. So then I got stuck with little David,
little David. So I'm in my forties to this day,
and when I go back home, people are like, little
David's here. I'm like, I am the last remaining David,
thank you very much. My father passed away in twenty eighteen. Yeah,
but they still call me little David.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
So, which, by the way, way worse than Junior. Yeah,
but yeah, that's the history behind that. So I've always
used David c smally and all my stuff, kind of
for my dad. So yeah, so you named him Clyde.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
That's he looks like a Clyde too.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
I get that. What color his eyes are? They kind
of gray?

Speaker 1 (05:40):
His eyes, know, his eyes are actually kind of like
yellowish if you look really close or like not really close.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Even are you trying to get me to take this cat?
This is just a ruse, a ruse you're trying to
get me to adopt his cat.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
No, no, no, there's I mean there's siblings you could pick.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
You know, you have options.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
You know what I'm saying. Once you name that, when Clyde,
what because maybe you want him? Good golly, miss Mollie, Smally,
you're ready to start today, Good Gollie, Miss Smallie.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Is he going to be chill?

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Did you say, Molly or Smally?

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Right?

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Don't do that. I'm asking you a question, Mollie. Oh, okay, yes,
he's gonna be chill. I mean he's eating right now.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
He doesn't feel caddy. He's a kid, he feels new.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
He's new. He's fifteen weeks. All the siblings are fifteen weeks. Right, Yeah,
but I showed you my thing.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Well we will. We will show him to my wife
and I'm sure she will love him.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
She will. No, she is gonna absolutely love him.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
You know who's gonna hate him? The other two cats,
the other two cats.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, And I don't know that I could see myself
as a three cat home like you could.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
You never saw yourself as a one cat home.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
I didn't see myself as a wife home.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
That's true. Look where you are yeah, yeah, I love.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
It, you do, I do.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Show me. I'm excited what you got?

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Are you ready?

Speaker 6 (07:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:12):
And you said you did something.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Danny and I worked really hard on this one. We
have a video to show you. And so here's how
this is gonna work. I'm gonna show Danny. We're gonna
show you three quick clips. But the first one, we're
going to show the clip, and then you tell me
the person's name. And you're probably not going to know
these people.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
You might.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
I hope you do. It would be great. She won't,
But let's say you know it. So you're gonna see
the video and then be like, this is this person's name.
So rather than saying I don't know, just give me
your best shot at it. Okay, are you ready?

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Are you ready?

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Danny? Wait, I'm scared, So just give you any name,
that name that comes to mind.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
You've heard, You've heard all of these names, okay, you
you've definitely heard of all of these people. But there's
a theme throughout night that we're going to get into. Yeah,
there's a there's a deeper underlying theme too, So let's
just see if you can pick up on it. Just
tell me who this is just the first one.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Oh, he's getting down nasty.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Who's that? And that's a that's an iconic move that
he's doing too. Frederick Frederick. Right, everybody remembers that Frederick Frederick,
the guitar player.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
I feel like that's it.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
But he's like like Madonna or Cheer. Just one word
that Frederick.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yes, okay, I feel like I've seen that the leg
thing he was getting down.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
You have seen it, but it wasn't him doing it.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
No, it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
That's how famous it is because he made that up.
So that's Frederick Okay, Okay, And what's he known for?

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Guitar plays?

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Guitar playing and he's singing or writing or only a
guitar player in a band?

Speaker 1 (09:05):
No, I think I see him. I see him singing.
He could sing probably like some No, he maybe like
more jazz jazz okay, like fast jazz, like fingers.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Snapping, fingers snapping jazz. Okay. Yeah, very clean music, very
sweet music, love songs.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Love songs. Sweet, maybe not so clean.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Nothing what maybe not so clean?

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:37):
You see him getting dirty? Yeah with his lyrics. Yeah,
well he's getting down Okay, interesting, who is this?

Speaker 1 (09:57):
That was good? My first though it was Prince, but
I know that's not him.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Wow, I could see that.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
I know it's not him.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
I don't think Prince would exist without this person.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
But okay, so he probably got.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Oh no, who is that?

Speaker 1 (10:14):
That is not Prince? That wait? Can I what? Wait?

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Can you play that one again?

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Oh? I know that song? I don't know who sings it?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Him him? What's his name?

Speaker 1 (10:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
It's Gabriel, Gabriel, So Frederick and Gabriel.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Gabriel with the mullet and eyeliner. Okay, okay, yeah, all right,
that's what I got.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
And known for what what is it called when you.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Scat?

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Oh? Scot So he doesn't sing real lyrics.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
He just like, no you heard him?

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, wop bab blue blah blah blah. You forgot the oh.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, oh those are words. Maybe he's known for scatting
in his songs.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Okay, Gabriel Gabriel? All right? And who is this?

Speaker 1 (11:33):
This is really old tape? Can I see it one
more time? It looked like it looked like what's his name?

Speaker 2 (11:50):
It's not Frederick, it's not Gabriel.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Who that one? What's his name?

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Justin Bieber? John Travolta.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Why can't It's like a basic it's a really are yes?
How did I pick that up?

Speaker 2 (12:11):
You made?

Speaker 1 (12:13):
What is Elvis? Again? That's definitely Elvis for sure. And
every every angle that was giving Elvis, especially with the
with this whole thing that was that felt very Elvis.
I can't even tell what quality like. It looked like
he got like mhm, he looks. I don't know. I

(12:37):
can't really see his eyes.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Is it possible that all of these people are AI
and none of them really existed?

Speaker 1 (12:42):
That is possible.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
So what you're saying, so, what's this guy's name?

Speaker 1 (12:49):
That guy?

Speaker 7 (12:50):
Hm?

Speaker 2 (12:51):
We have Frederick, I.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Think taller than him. He looked like he had a
different body shape.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
You sure that's not Elvis.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
He was giving Elvis the sounds and the movement, but
what I was looking at didn't feel very Elvis.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
It could have been early Elvis, That's.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
What I was thinking, but it didn't look like looking
at it, it could have.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Been early Elvis before Elvis turned into a white man.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
What that couldn't tell is that a white man.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
That is not a white man.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
I couldn't tell with this with this camera quality. That's
what was throwing me off here, Okay, okay, m not Elvis,
his that that that guy. That guy's name is Bob.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Bob, what's he known for? What's his big song?

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Was he singing?

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Okay, No, you can't see it again, because what I'm
actually gonna do that's the last one. I'm gonna play
the longer versions, and I'm actually gonna show you this.
And this is, by the way, the point of the podcast.
Everybody out there that's upset that I never tell her
the answer I do in the podcast. So the longer verse.
I'm actually gonna play you longer versions of each one

(14:00):
of these, and I'm gonna explain to you who they are.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Is this the same guy?

Speaker 2 (14:05):
All three the same guy?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
I don't know, like in different stages of their life.
I can't tell. I feel like you're pulling a trick
on me, I know, maybe, or is it AI or
maybe it doesn't feel like it feels like very real people.
This feels like like legends and the music industry, the
late bass for other legends. That's what it is, Okay,

(14:27):
That's how what I feel like it is. Considering the
eyeliner and the skippity skippity bop skippity bop very legend.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
So the last guy, what's.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
He known for? What's his big song?

Speaker 1 (14:42):
His big song?

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, he's known for He's known for a lot. But
his big song over.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
The Rainbow, Somewhere over the rainbow. Maybe he has the
original original version and.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Then other people just everybody remembers that dance over the rainbow,
do the over the rainbow? No, this somewhere over the
rainbow rainbow.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Song? Okay, maybe, like you know how, there's an original
original and then there's what we think is the original.
That's what I'm feeling like is happening. He probably did
like a a popular song, and then people just kept
re recreating.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, all right, answer, are you ready to figure out
who these people really are?

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:29):
All right, So we've got about twenty thirty second clip
of each person. We won't be able to show them
all on TikTok for obvious reasons, but we can show
them on the podcast. The first person, his name is
Chuck Berry. Play this clip. Danny, one of the pioneers
of rock and roll.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
I know that one. I know that song like his
little nap.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Donny Go Go, whoa don pretty badass? Right?

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (16:29):
So it's it's so where you've seen it is it
was a long time ago, but we watched Back to
the future.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Wait pause, hold on, this is one of the guys
you already showed me.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
The first guy that was skipping with the guitar. This
is Frederick. His name is Chuck Barry. His name is
Chuck Barry. Chuck, Yeah, Chuck Berry.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
And he.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
That guitar thing that he did where he like skipped
with his with his guitar. That's like in this iconic move,
like nobody was doing stuff like that. Nob he was
playing like him. So in Back to the Future, when
Marty McFly goes back in time to the fifties, he's
performing on stage and he plays that song, but they
it hasn't wasn't out yet, so everybody thought, I guess

(17:16):
the idea was that Marty, Marty's taking credit for creating
the sound. And so there's was it. Marvin Marvin Berry.
Marvin Berry is one of the characters, which is like
his brother or cousin. He picks up the phone and goes, hey, Chuck,
you know that new sound you're looking for? I think
I found it, and he holds the phone up while

(17:37):
Marty McFly is playing Johnny be good, saying that this
is actually where the sound came from. So yeah, okay, yeah,
that's where you've seen it. And then he even does
that Marty McFly does that thing where he like skips
across the stage. It's iconic. A lot of people have
done it.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
I was making sure he was gadding he's fine. Is
he fine?

Speaker 2 (17:59):
He might have he's gonna use these leather couches as
his scratch pads. Hey hey, hey, hey, he.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Did not.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
He did not trying to find something to scratch on.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
You are lyon?

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Oh whoa, that was a big job.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Good job.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
It's a tall table.

Speaker 8 (18:24):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah, go poop right there. Okay, are you ready to
see Gabriel?

Speaker 8 (18:31):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Oh wait, no, no, sorry not Gabriel. Next up is so
The next song is also by Frederick or Chuck Berry.
Because I asked you if you thought he ever got
dirty or clean, and you said you could see him
getting dirty.

Speaker 8 (18:44):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
This is probably one of my favorite songs from Chuck Berry.
Pay attention closely to the lyrics.

Speaker 9 (18:52):
When I was a little baby boy, my grandmother brought
me a cute little joy o silver meles hanging.

Speaker 10 (19:02):
On her string.

Speaker 9 (19:03):
She told me it was my dingling.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
To play with my dad.

Speaker 11 (19:23):
Beautiful.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
I think I've heard that.

Speaker 9 (19:26):
And then Mama took me to grammar school.

Speaker 11 (19:30):
But I stopped all in the best of you.

Speaker 9 (19:35):
Every time that mail would ring, catch me playing with
my dingling.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Get the whole place, dingling, that is beautiful.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
You know what I heard?

Speaker 7 (20:01):
I heard.

Speaker 10 (20:01):
I hear two girls over here singing in harmony.

Speaker 9 (20:04):
That's all right, honey, this is.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
A free country, live like you want to live.

Speaker 10 (20:08):
Baby.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, the girls supposed to sing my The guy say
dingling freedom.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
Yes theirs.

Speaker 9 (20:16):
One guy right over here singing mine too.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
That's all right, brother, yes, sir. You gotta right baby.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Ain't nobody gonna bother you.

Speaker 9 (20:26):
Once I was climbing the garden wall, I slipped and
head up, terrible falls. I fell so hard, heard bells ring.

Speaker 11 (20:37):
But hell down to my baby.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
So there were not a lot of people being dirty
back then. This was such a cool way to do it.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
It's very interactive and it's fun for them to be like,
oh my god, he's saying that on the microphone.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
It's a really cool calling response out that thing.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, they loved him. Was his name Chuck Berry?

Speaker 10 (21:09):
One Sola swimming cross turtle creek, man Nam snappers all
around my feet, show us Hord swimming across that thing
with both hands, holding.

Speaker 6 (21:22):
My love song, swimming with his feet like a frog,
right because there's snapping turtles all over the place.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Honey, I've heard you've heard audio of this.

Speaker 9 (21:40):
I think it's a beautiful little song. Really had to do.
And guess what, everybody's still not singing. There's a few
right down front here that's not singing. We're gonna dedicate
this verse to those who will not sing.

Speaker 10 (21:53):
Yes, sir, this here song.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
It ain't so sad.

Speaker 6 (22:01):
Song you ever had.

Speaker 9 (22:04):
Those of you will not sing you must be playing
which own.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
That's so funny. How many people do you think we're there?

Speaker 2 (22:20):
I don't know. Okay, we can sell it all right. Yeah,
so that's my dangling by Chuck Berry. Wow, he was
a blast. He's got a bunch of hits. Really really
funny guy and actually just died I think in twenty seventeen,
So he was around for a long time. I think.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, did he release music when he was older?

Speaker 2 (22:41):
I don't know how how long he continue to release music,
but we can we can find out. Yeah, so that's
chuck Berry. The first one that she called Frederick chuck Berry.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Is there someone named Frederick that does music and plays
guitar like that?

Speaker 2 (22:53):
I'm sure yep.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
No, like well known obviously like Danny.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
You know what she's talking about? Maybe a uh Freddy Valance.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
Or are you talking about let's see Freddie. Are you
talking about hispanic like bomba guy?

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Baby? I don't know. I just for some reason, the
first thing that came to my mind when I saw
him was Frederick.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Maybe I'll look into that, Okay. So the next one
that you was there a cat attacking the trash. He
is in trying to plan a professional show and a
circus shows up. Give me here, baby, come here, Damn Clyde.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Clyde.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Clyde's respond to things like so you know, ye, hey, hey,
what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (23:49):
He's causing ruckus? No?

Speaker 2 (23:52):
I got a right, all right? So so the who
you called Gabriel? This name is gonna ring a bell
because I've asked you about him before, Little Richard.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
I thought that was a character.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
You thought it was, and I never told you the
truth about it. So I'm finally revealing to you this
is Little Richard. Rhythm blues had a baby and they
called it rock and roll, so not jazz.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Wait, this is this is like Elvis music almost.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
We're gonna get into that.

Speaker 8 (24:56):
So I was kind of right about this yet is that.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Jamie jam So for the longest time I thought this
was liplighter. This was part of the makeup because I
think it's because the eyelighter there.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
It is. He's cool. I want to be his friend. Okay,
So here's what happened. I don't know what the point
is and be planning anything. He's acting like a tiger
jumping out of the bushes. Now, Oh yeah, Harry comes
what you want me to be on a different app sir? Okay, yeah,

(25:51):
I don't need my phone. Whatever you want to do.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
You know, we might need a compilation of you dealing
with the cat. And that's by itself, because all right, hey,
come here, baby, I love you. It's okay, I love you.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
So anyway, what was I talking about? Oh he also
has a song called good Golly Miss Molly.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Oh so that's why.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
You say play good Golly miss Molly. Listen his vocal
on this. His vocal on this is like he's good good.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Maybe I have heard this.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
This is the these are the runs he does.

Speaker 12 (26:59):
Okay, yeah, it feels like Elvis took a lot of
inspiration from them.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Come okay, anyway, what did you say?

Speaker 1 (27:23):
I said, it sounds like Elvis took a lot of
inspiration from them.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Oh yeah, so he did. In fact, that's what we're
about to get into, is some some before we get
to the last guy, whose name was Bob. Before we
get to Bob, we're gonna talk a little bit about
Little Richard. That guy was literally known as the architect

(27:49):
of rock. And we have a couple of interviews quick
interviews to show you. Uh, Danny, can you play the
next clip of his stand up interview about twoty.

Speaker 7 (28:01):
Bob was a dishwasher at the Great hind And Bus
Station in Macon, Georgia. I was making twelve dollars a
week for many years there, and I used to sing
Tuti fruit here every night because the boss name would
make me watch so many pots and you couldn't send
nothing back to him, so the only thing I could
say to him to get back out it was wah
bah blah blah blah blah blah, bam boom because he
didn't know what I was saying.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
That either that's funny, and yeah, so what's funny there is?
And I was talking to Danny about this we were
putting this together. He says, at the beginning of the song,
he says, wah bah bloh blah bah blah bob bob,
and he says that throughout the entire song, but every
time he talks about it, he says wh ba blue
blah ba lah bamboom. And so on the way over

(28:43):
to the studio today, I listened to the entire song
of Tuty Fruity and just so you know, Danny, he
says wh blah blah blah bla blah blah bop through
the whole song, and then the very last time he
says it, he says WoT bah blo blah blah blah
bam boom, and that's how the song ends. So he
does say it like that. He said he used to
yell it at his boss because he couldn't say anything
else when he wanted to be mad but didn't want to.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Get fired, like he wanted to cast out of him
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
And yeah, yeah, and he's clearly doing that. Yeah, same,
he's clearly uh flamboyant, right, I.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Mean he was kinda he didn't seem where is he
He doesn't seem to.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
In the walls.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
He actually might be.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
I just want to get through a topic.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
He's hanging out, all right, Well.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Clyde has gone missing. No, if you see Clyde, let us. Okay,
I can buy a new couch.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
He parkd off.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
He did, just parkour parkourd off the leather couch. Oh,
he's about to get up there and see what Danny's
up to. Please focus on this episod.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
I was fine.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
He was screaming in my ear and he was invisible.
Where is this scream coming from?

Speaker 1 (30:08):
M hm?

Speaker 2 (30:09):
So anyway, I mean he was clearly gay. He was
clearly flamboyant.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
I didn't think he was really I thought he was
just a stylish.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
I mean, he's wearing eyeliner. He's wearing eyelashes, but there's
a lot of people who wear Well, he was gay, well,
he says he was, but then he found the Lord
and prayed about it and said he wasn't gay anymore,
and he tried to tone down some of the flamboyantness.

(30:40):
So we're gonna play this next clip of him going
on David Letterman as what he calls a straight MANE.

Speaker 11 (30:48):
Wait, I've always loved God.

Speaker 13 (30:51):
You know, in my hometown, if you didn't love God,
you didn't have nothing because it was so prejudiced back
in that time. You know, I had to do what
I was doing in order to survive.

Speaker 11 (31:02):
Well, my daddy, we had twelve kids.

Speaker 13 (31:04):
My daddy's name is Charles Pennaman, and we called him Bud.
But I wouldn't obey my father. I didn't obey my father.
I didn't do what he wanted me to do, and
so he told him I had to get out. He said, Richard,
you I wanted I was gay, And he says that
I wanted seven boys, and you're messing it up. And

(31:24):
my brother's name was Charles.

Speaker 7 (31:26):
So I would go out.

Speaker 13 (31:27):
In the yard and call him. I had a high voice.
I would say Chas. He said, I'm gonna kill you tonight.
He said I'm gonna kill you because I was really flamborn.
So my my people didn't like it. So my daddy said,
you either follow this ruler get out. So I got
out because I wanted to wear all of my stones.
I was old enough to go in the streets because

(31:49):
I had to be because I had to find a
place my mother didn't want me to go. I was
about seventeen sixteen. Is no dadd is dead. He didn't
live to see me my fame or nothing. Did you
ever get this worked out? Or was it the problem?
Oh no, but God gave me the victory.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
I'm not gay now, but when.

Speaker 13 (32:04):
I was gay all my life, I believe I was
one of the first gave people to come out. But
God let me know that he made out.

Speaker 11 (32:09):
Him be but even not Steve So.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
So I just I gave my heart the price. But
let me add that's what you keep saying, one provocative
thing after another. You used to be gay, but now
you're not.

Speaker 13 (32:21):
I'm a man for the first time in my life.
I know how you feel.

Speaker 7 (32:25):
Now.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
That's sad.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
It's very sad. Yeah, did he did he die? Think so?

Speaker 2 (32:32):
He actually became a pastor, and I think he lived
until God he was eighty seven years old. I think
he or eighty five or eighty seven. He became a pastor.
I don't know if you could pull up a picture,
Danny of Little Richard's last sermon or something. He's unrecognizable,
but yeah, he continued. He's still very flamboyant still was

(32:54):
really funny. He was with it, but he suppressed all
that and said that God saved him from being gay.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
So poor guy. Yeah, it sucks, especially like it secks
for everyone that's what he looked like.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, I feel like.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
It sucks, especially for like legends that like that's literally
what he does is express himself through like music and stuff.
So not being able to be yourself like that is
so sad.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah, I know. And he was just so talented, And
I think I think Danny has some facts for us
before we wrap up on h on a Little Richard
to tell you how powerful.

Speaker 6 (33:29):
This guy was.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
He's attacking Daniel.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
No, I'm sorry's gonna you should get that on video
because we can't see it for your earlier So, Danny,
are you okay with being on her TikTok? Yeah? Okay.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
So for the song Tooty Fruity, do you remember the
lyrics to Lissa?

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (33:52):
So how to go school tooty Free?

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
This line was originally a sexual reference, specifically held the
applause to anal sex, as documented in Charles White's nineteen
eighty four biography The Life and Times of Little Richard
here's the original lyrics, tooty fruity, good booty. If it

(34:20):
don't fit, don't force it. You can grease it, make
it easy.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Oh upon it he was.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
He was not just out.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
He was out there and apparently in.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Okay, that was too much. That was too much for me,
all right, Bob chill out.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
Upon hearing the song sung in frustration by Little Richard
during a recording session, producer Robert Bumps, Blackwell knew the
lyrics needed to be changed for popular radio and contracted
songwriter Dorothy Lebostree to help do so.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
What So then they ended up changing it to I
got a girl named Sue, she knows just what to do.
And then the second verses, I got a girl named Daisy.
She's always driving me crazy. So it became pretend to
be straight, and he says later in that interview, I
think we cut it off. But he says later in
that interview that if he appeared to be a straight man,

(35:23):
the white club owners and producers and record label execs
wouldn't let him be around white women because they thought
he was there to get the white girls. So if
he put on the mascara and the eyeliner and was like, Oh,
they didn't feel like he was a threat, so he
leaned into that is what he says, and that's why.

(35:44):
But not really, I mean, I think it's probably a mixture.
I think he I mean, he didn't hide me in
gay so that it was better for his career, you know.
But this is funny. My mom showed me these tapes
early on, and like, I was a big fan of
Little Richard as a kid and never even thought about it.
So wow, any other Oh, we have some other facts

(36:05):
for him though.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
Okay, so before we wrap up with Little Richard, here's
something important about Little Richard that a lot of people
don't realize to us. So Little Richard didn't just invent
one of the wildest, most exciting sounds in rock and roll.
He also shaped the careers of some of the biggest
names in music history. So here we go. Jimmy Hendricks,

(36:29):
Jimmy Hendrix.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Jimmy Hendrix was one of his guitar players.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Oh, that might have were that might have been what
I thought Frederick was Hendrick and Fredericks. Yeah, I think
that's what that was.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
Yes, Jimmy Hendricks played in Little Richard's band, The Upsetters,
before he became a legend. James Brown, James Brown, James Brown, model.
James Brown modeled his stage act and vocal fire on
Richard's explosive performances. The Beatles, hold on.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
I feel good. It's James Brown. Yes, okay, yep, your
cat is destroying the studio and ruining this episode.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
I just want to I think he's difficult. He's adding flavor,
he's adding he's adding this just the right amount.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Of He's definitely a cat. He keeps changing Daniel's screen.
The Beatles, the Beatles.

Speaker 5 (37:22):
You heard of the Beatles.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
I have heard of the Beatles. I do. The Beatles
are definitely a legend in the music industry. I don't,
I don't have. I think I have one or two
songs that I know for sure, but understanding, I don't know,
like the whole it's.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Understand they're overrated anyway.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
Well, the Beatles were massive fans. Paul McCartney learned his
scream singing style by copying Little Richard, and they even
toured together in the early sixties.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Wow, I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
So the Beatles said that they actually looked up to him,
and that Little Richard was one of their biggest inspirations
for doing rock and roll? What and because they were
four young, handsome white kids, they skyrocketed to fame while
Little Richard was kind.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Of held back, right and so many ways.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
Wow, the Rolling Stones opened for Little Richard before becoming
rock icons in their own right.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Bob Dylan once.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
Said Little Richard was his very first musical hero. Otis Redding,
though not directly part of Richard's band, built much of
his early style around Little Richard's influence.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah, no, I know what was reading and Bob Dylan.
I like both of them. Yep.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
You can hear Richard's energy all over Otis's first recordings.

Speaker 8 (38:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
And then there's lastly, Elvis Presley. Little Richard both criticized
him for getting mainstream credit for a sound black artists
created and praised him for opening doors by bringing that
sound to a wider audience. Wow.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Yeah, thanks Danny so so so who was Bob? We'll
get there. A lot of people have accused Elvis of
stealing black music basically.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
In fact, Emminim's got a line and uh that says
something like, I'm the first one since Elvis Presley to
do black music and something about for myself. What's the
line to do black music so selfishly and use it
to get myself wealthy. Hey, that's a concept that works
other million, twenty million, other white rappers and murders. Let

(39:22):
me fish in the sea. But it feels so empty
without me. Okay, Yeah, he's talking about like Elvis using
black music. There's a bunch of people that's like, but
it's not just black music. It's it's uh yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
I'm sorry. He just crawled up his shoulder. You know
we missed that entirely.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
I'm sorry, Danny. I didn't know that. I don't know
you were going to be a zoo keeper today.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
I didn't realize he was gonna stomp all over the
all over the electronics.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
It's messed up.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Now, I can I can put him away, all right.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
He reset the settings on the live switcher.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Clyde says, I'm sorry, Daniel, I can put him away.
You put them away.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
No, we're almost done. No, he's he's successfully ruined it.
It's okay.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
He's done a great job. It is his it is
his first time.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
This first podcast.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
You'd be nice.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
So it's not just black music. There's a specific artist
that Elvis ripped from. And so what I want to
do is I want to play you a clip of
Elvis singing, and then I want to play a clip
of who he stole his whole sound from. Ok, so
this is Elvis.

Speaker 11 (40:40):
Well a blessing muscle or what's the wrong with amazing?

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Friend is a week?

Speaker 2 (41:11):
And now here is Roy Hamilton ten years earlier.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
It was Bob No.

Speaker 11 (41:20):
Oh, it's very obvious and stupid.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Oh my gosh, he got that type voice from him? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Did he? Did he ever mention anything Elvis?

Speaker 2 (41:52):
We know that Elvis was a huge fan of Roy,
and Roy never made it to where Elvis did. He
never made it to the Rock and Roll Hall of
Fame or any of that. Elvis pioneer he was, yeah,
eight to twelve years before Elvis. Elvis saw him coming
up and then incorporated that into his music. So that's
why a lot of people hold a grudge against Elvis
and say he wasn't really the king.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Uh, I mean that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Little Richard was like, you may want to call him
the king, but I'm the architect and was like, like,
I think Elvis is overrated and all this, and then that's.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Valid though, Yeah, yeah, it's really really valid.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah, who who was the the blind piano player that
Jimmie did Jamie Fox played Ray Charles. Well, there's a
really controversial video on YouTube of Ray Charles being like
Elvis never deserved the credit he got, like he stole everything.
So yeah, there's a there's a there's a lot going on.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
In that.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
And uh so, yeah, it's really valid to look at
those artists and be like, yeah, Elvis ripped from them. Yeah,
but now you know about Chuck Berry, about Chuck Berry,
I know about Little Richard, you know about Roy Hamilton,
a little more about Elvis, and now you get to
hear about Bob whose real name, real name, it's not
his real name. His artist name is Chubby Checker. And

(43:07):
this is the song we've definitely heard, Let's do.

Speaker 11 (43:18):
The swift that he was doing the swif.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Look at him, Hobbin. He's so cute he is. Now
that had America losing their minds.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Sounds like it, sez Yeah, okay, okay, okay, that makes sense.
I like Bob.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
I've seen one of these people live, yues now, hold on,
they were way before my time, all of them but
one of them, Chuck Berry was still performing. God I
can't remember what years.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
I saw Bob Dylan perform.

Speaker 11 (44:12):
You did?

Speaker 1 (44:12):
I did? And Willie Nelson? What? Yeah? When recently? Whatever?

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Tell me about this?

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah I did. I went. Maybe I'll tell my opinions
about it on a different episode.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll hear it. But I'm surprised. You
know who Bob Dylan was.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
No, I listened. I like Bob Dylan.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
I like his music.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
No, I like it was. It was. It was a
fun time.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
You saw them live like out here in La Yeah. Wow.
Willie Nelson, that's so.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
And he played guitar and everything.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Yeah, yeah, probably the same guitar he's always played. I
think beat up it's all. Yeah, but it's.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
A part of it.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Yeah, it was a part of it.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Is really sweet.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
You know, your grandma met Willie Nelson and was trying
to be his backup singer at one point.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
I bet she sounds like her Clyde Clyde.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Damn it, Clyde. I thought he was in jail. Is
he chewing the chords again?

Speaker 1 (45:04):
No, he's clock.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
He's doing you never heard of the twist.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
I thought it was more like so with the dress.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
So the Wednesday thing going like this Wednesday, the Wednesday dance,
that's what she does.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Okay, I don't know about Wednesday. I know about like
the girls with the with the long frills doing it real.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Fast, right. So that all started with with him, Chubby Checker.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
So he does it more like groovy.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Well because he's a guy. He was like doing like
the guys like this and it.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Was like okay, I see ya wow.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Yeah, and the twist was like the dance craze back then.
So the person I saw live was Chubby Checkeryeah he
was yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I was live with him.
It was an outdoor concert in I think it was Jacksonville, Florida,
before one of the Super Bowls when I worked for
that television network and the early two thousands, and they

(46:02):
had an outdoor concert. I was on stage as a
cameraman for who Sings Hey Now You're an All Star
smash Mouth. I was on stage of smash Mouth and
they were playing.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
There You're You're a cameraman.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Yeah, I was a cameraman for a television network. Nice
and he did everything I did and did he break
the glass? Anybody want a cat?

Speaker 4 (46:40):
No?

Speaker 2 (46:41):
I got a cat here, free cat named Clyde. No
just make sure everything in your house is rubber.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
It's you. You do have to cap childproof. He just
wants to play.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
He's in trouble, is he?

Speaker 1 (47:00):
I think he knows he knows it.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Yeah, I got to see I got to see uh
Chubby Checker perform.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
How long did he perform for?

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Oh? Like, uh like thirty minutes?

Speaker 1 (47:10):
I think, oh wow, Yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
I thought it was an impersonator.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Are they all passed?

Speaker 2 (47:17):
I think Chubby Checker is still around?

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Oh? Is he the guy that you saw?

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Is he still alive? Is Chubby Checker still alive?

Speaker 4 (47:25):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (47:25):
Chubby Checker is still alive.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
He's eighty three eighty three.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
The other two I could see him.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
The other two were going, I don't know if he's
still performing, but din you memory you?

Speaker 1 (47:34):
No?

Speaker 2 (47:35):
No. I waved at him and he waved back. He said, Hi,
he was a Oh. I wasn't on stage with him.
I was on stage at another stage. When we finished.
I went over because I'd heard it, but I thought
it was an impersonator. And I walked up and I
was look at the stage and I'm like, that literally
looks like Chubby Checker. Like I've seen pictures and videos,
and then I'm hearing his voice and I'm like, oh
my god, is that really him? And then I see

(47:55):
Chubby Checker Live. How old were you twenty two? Maybe?
Oh yeah, that's right before you were born.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
He's gonna use his litter box.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
We get to watch a cat take a ship.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Shit asmr shit shit. He did.

Speaker 12 (48:25):
Well.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
I enjoyed. I enjoyed your your surprise. I think mine
was better, but I enjoyed your surprise. I appreciate all
the information you brought to me because I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
I didn't you know, I know, And everybody's always like
I tell her, tell her the truth, tell her you.
I hate doing this. I'm gonna unfollow if you don't
start telling her. I'm like, I do. That's what the
podcast is for.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
That's what the podcast is.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
And people are irritated with you, by the way, for
gen Z, because you didn't tell me who these people were.
I thought Tate McCrae was a little tiny country singer.
I thought Somber. I thought Somber did the uh hatty hatty,
don't eat.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
My taki, I can't do this.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
That wasn't Somber. It turns out Somber was a dude.
If I don't know if he identifies, also spells his
name wrong. Ain't no e in his name. It's just
s O M b r Y. We found that out
when we were trying to tag the group of girls
in the video. So I didn't know. You didn't You
didn't tell me any Well, it's kind.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Of payback for all the times that you didn't tell me.
You just started recently telling me answers. Oh my chair
went down.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Sure it's not the cat, you know it could be. Actually,
did he just go behind the count? Makes me anxious?
I just know what he's back there chewing on. That
cat has electricity.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
He's right here. He's your middle name. You you, that's
your job. Basically, Now, thanks for.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Bringing the cat in studio. That added, and I'm gonna
bring him over.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
He's gonna come say hi everybody. Okay, h this podcast,
I think officially wait, we might have to do it
with Clyde. Clyde. No, no, no, let him let him watch. No,
you just I need you just need like you need

(50:31):
to crinkles a bag or something.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Hold on, let's try this. He comes to me. He's
gonna be my cat. Clyde, come here up.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Up, He's not a dog.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
My cat's come to me when I do that. Now
I've trained them to come to me. Clyde, hop up,
Come here, Clyde Baby, listen for Ship.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
He might be my cat.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
This podcast with Clyde has ended.
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