ONLY FANS VS LONELY MANS

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This is Daughter Issues. Get everysingle episode, last video, and talk
to us in the comments at daughterpoddot com. So today on Daughter Issues,
we had a show planned and wewere going to talk about some things.

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But then Melissa I was like,Hey, I want to talk to
you about something. I want totell you something. Promise you won't get
mad. And I was like,just stop right there. First of all,
never going to make a promise likethat because that might get mad.
And second of all, let's justhave the conversation on the show. Because
our fans know us and the peoplewho follow us, it's like part of

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our family. So let's just talk. And you were like, I'm not
so sure you want to do that, but here we are. If this
turns out that I don't know,you saw my medical records and I'm dying
or something, maybe we just willdelete that part. Whatever it is.
Let's just let's just talk about it, and let's let's see. Because I
high relationship, you know, Ithink it'll be helpful for other people to

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listen to because I know the differencein our relationship versus the mass majority and
the reaction most people would get.I feel like, and it can create
toxicity and I feel like you're gonnahave your own opinions, and that's what
I'm also here to listen to isalso hear you out and hear your opinions.
But I feel like you're going tohave a healthier reaction than most parents

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might, and it could be helpfulfor other people to listen to, including
parents. Are you moving out ofstate? Not? Not? Oh good?
That's actually maybe not know. I'mscared to leave the country for whatever
reason, even though I really wantto travel. It's kind of ironic.

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Do you want more animals? Yes, that's part of it. Absolutely,
you already have eleven animals. No, I don't. I have a plenty
amount, and then some that Irescue that I'm currently getting back to health
because they're what is your get toyour offensive statement? It's not offensive,

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So I know I've kind of jokedbefore and it also kind of has a
bad rep, but I always thinkthat if you're comfortable with it and you
can capitalize on it, then whynot, right, And I've kind of
joked about it before starting an OnlyFans, but it's it's also not what you

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think either. I would be takinga more model route in that way,
but I also do feel like weobviously have a little bit of a presence
together, so I want to getyour opinions and thoughts, and I also
want to tell you before I butI might actually want you to drop this

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like when I drop the link aswell, like maybe the next day or
something or same day. We'll figurethat out, but I definitely wanted to
tell you first, so you weren'tlike what's going on. But like I
said, I want to take.The route that I want to take is
model, you know what I'm saying. But I also feel like I have

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assets that I could capitalize on,and and I think that I'm a businesswoman.
You taught me to be a businesswoman, and if I see a spot
where I can make money and I'mcomfortable doing it, I'm going to do
it. And I also think everyoneelse should. If you're comfortable with it

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and you want to make money.I also think it's a possible route as
long as you're fully thinking it throughand realizing what that means for you,
then do it. But it doeshave a bad rep and I have my
boundaries as well as my own adultthere are a lot of things that I
won't do. But there's also youknow some modeling I would love to do
anyway, So there's that ready togo eat. Okay, so I feel

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like a lot of so you're serious, like yeah, okay, just because
I know, like here can Ican I give you this before you start,
before you say anything, let megive you this one last little piece.
A lot of women post their bodybecause they think it's beautiful and they

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want to and that's great and thatgets a lot of likes and it gets
a lot of love and all thatwhatever. Find that's great. If those
people were to make an OnlyFans,they would have to really go far.
I don't plan on going far personally. If I decide too later on,
maybe, but I'm probably not gonnado it out right with that. I
dress very baggy. I don't postthose things. So if there is something

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that people want and I can puta price on that because it's a product
in a way like buying a poster, because it's a poster, it's a
picture, you know what I'm saying. So it's that that's how I'm seeing
this is like there's nothing you knowthat I'm going to pass a certain line

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for myself, I guess, butgive me, give me your your spiel.
Okay, so is this like JerrySpringer where you just like you just
roll out some shocking news live onTV. You said, yeah, I
know you said, and I saidit was probably a good idea because I

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think other people. So so here'sthe thing. So first and foremost,
you know, I love you,I respect you. I raised you to
be independent, to be like yousaid, to be business minded, to
be logical, and I guess thebiggest thing is you being safe. Like

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a lot of dads I think thatwould be in this position, their immediate
thought would be I don't want mydaughter like they would be upset. But
it's not because they don't want youto be your own person. But it's
because I'm like, it's having adaughter already knowing that you're highly likely to
be assaulted or hit or groped orsomething like that. That's already on a

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father's mind when he has a girl. So there's that protection part of me
that's like, I don't want youto be opened up to even more people
stalking or chasing you or doing stuffbecause I have bail money, Like I'm
willing to straight up and go toprison. I know, I know I'll
get all my ducks in order,Like I'm like, fuck all of this

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content, I'm not right. SoI'm I'm at that point. So that's
already a problem that we have todeal with. And then on top of
that, you being like, oh, here's a booby. Now just a
booby that in my mind, that'sall it is, just not auld model.

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I just stopped. Just let meget this out with my So I
I I A lot of what I'mfeeling is like protection, keeping you safe.
And so also I don't want youto do something that's going to make
something harder on you later in life. Like when I was nineteen, I
had I thought I was going tobe one thing in my life completely went

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in a different direction. And sowhat if when you're thirty seven, you
decide to run for president or runfor some kind of office, or you
to be taken seriously as an actorin some major or you want to be
an outspoken activist and a certain thing, and this comes back to haunt you.

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Maybe society will grow up and thatkind of stuff won't affect you negatively,
but I'm concerned with your safety.I'm concerned with your future, and
I don't want you to do anythingthat's gonna harm future you. You know
what I mean. I say onmy other podcast all the time, be
kind of future you. And Iknow, I know you could make a
ton of money doing that, butmy fear is that you would do something

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now, get money now, andthen when you're in your forties you look
back on and you go, Man, I really had an opportunity to do
something bigger with my life. Andbecause that stuff exists on the internet,
now I'm prohibited or restricted in someother aspect of my life. I don't
want I don't want you to belike, well, now, I gotta
just stay in sex work for therest of my life because I started this

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one thing. And also I'll beworried about it getting worse and worse and
worse. And you know, butI look at the end of the day,
I mean, I raise you torespect yourself and to be safe,
and I mean, you're a grownwoman. You're gonna do what you're gonna

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do. Doesn't feel great, butI love you and I respect you,
and if that's what you want todo, then I mean I support you,
and whatever you want to do,I just really want you to be
careful. Boundaries. You said notonly your safety, but your future opportunities.

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Like you know, if you're goingto do something like that, to
do it in a way that's classyand respectful of who you are and not
not ruining future opportunities. Yeah,And that's where like I have my boundaries
and I know that, and Iknow, like I was what even led
me into thinking about this, asI was thinking of doing a photo shoot,
wanting to do modeling, and Iwas like, why not put a
price on that if people are willingto buy it. I'm not shoving it

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down anybody's throat, but I amlet's not even go there, but I
am going to say that if thereare people who want to buy it,
why not make that available instead ofmake it free on my Instagram. Look,
if I could just move my egoaside as your dad. When I
was nineteen, when I was twenty, actually, I was a lead singer

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in a band and I went onstage without my shirt. I was really
thin, I had abs, Iwas a little bit ripped, mostly just
because of metabolism and being young.And I would go on stage without my
shirt and women would scream, AndI think it was part of a draw
for women coming to the shows thatthey found me attractive and I was performing

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without a shirt, So on somelevels, I know that sex sells.
And if only fans had been athing, like all bullshit aside, If
only the fans had been a thingwhen I was nineteen and women were willing
to throw money at me for havingyour shirt off, just having my shirt
off, or just taking certain pictures, I don't I probably would have done

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it. I mean I probably wouldhave. So I can't really knock you
for it. I just I don'twant to just be like, I don't
own you, I don't control you. You're not mine, but I care
so deeply about you, Like there'snot another single human on this planet that
I care to protect more than you. And so that's it's just a safety
thing, you know what I mean. And that's why with this, I'll

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be able to get the money toget more dogs to protect me and security
guards just walk around with me.You know what I'm saying. I don't
trust the security guards. No,I would trust the security guard. Why
not just saying, oh, well, maybe we can make him gay.
And just no, it's not aboutthat. I just want to can I

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be a part of the interview processfor the security guards for the security Yes,
okay, yeah, absolutely can letme. I'll be head of security
and I will hire the security guards. I'm okay with that. Okay,
I'm okay with that. You cando that. I'll let you do that,
mass deal. Look, I appreciateyou telling me, yeah, and

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I was talking about it. I'mglad we're close enough to have this conversation
rather you know, than yeah,of course. And there there are gonna
be a lot of dudes, youknow, fathers, like I can't believe
you're letting your daughter do this.It's not it's not up to me,
you know what I mean. Youdon't need my approval or blessing. I
mean, you know, I trustyou to handle yourself. I mean my

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I've told you since you were little, not really little, but like maybe
twelve ish, Like my job asyour parent is to teach you how to
live without me. Like I onlysounds morbid and screwed up, but I
don't want to be on my deathbedin my nineties and having you being like
dad, don't leave. I don'tknow how to do taxes. I'm like,

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I want you to be like Igot this, Let go you're fine.
I want to peacefully, you know, pass into my death knowing that
you're gonna be fine. So I'vegiven you those tools up to this point
for you to just handle your business, you know what I mean. And
so if you feel like this ismy business is being handled, let me

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tell you I'm handling it trying.I'm trying to handle it and I'm trying
to do it in a way towhere I can make And here's also a
big part of it is I knowI can make the same amount of money
that I'm going to make on OnlyFanswithout OnlyFans, but that's going to take
a lot more time and a lotother routes that I don't feel like if

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I can spee that process up faster, like I don't, I'm not going
to do this and then stop beinglike all right, I'm good. No,
because for me, I'm going tobe spending that money and I'm going
to be making more money, spendingthat money on rescues and getting a bigger
space so I can live comfortably andthings like that. And so I'm this
is very much bonus for me.And what I'm saying like this is what

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so I, well, I havesomebody that I really trust that I want
to put you in touch with.Okay, that that does this kind of
stuff, because you know all theindustry people everybody I know some yeah,
no, you know, you know, you know all the peoples. Yeah,
I know some people's And I havesomebody that I want to put you
in touch with that I that Itrust. Who's maybe a few ex's that

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I could even talk to. Youheard my laundry, bro there were people
who have been in somewhat in theindustry. Yeah, but somewhat. I
dated a porn star. Okay,I don't know what y'all wanted me to
say. I dated a porn star. You'll let me talk to her.
Yeah, No, No, that'sdifferent. Different, That's not how I'm

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talking about. Uh. There's someonewho who's a fan of this of my
other podcast that reached out to mea long time ago, and and she
does only fans, and she's,uh, she's really smart, she's really
respectful of herself and her boundaries.And yeah, I'll see if she'd want
to talk to you maybe about howto do it in a way that like

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maybe anytime you start something new,you always look back and go man,
I wish I would have known Xy Z and I, you know,
it would have been easier. Somaybe if she could be like a mentor
or something, it's like a bigsister, yeah, and somebody to be
like, you know, let medo this in a way that's absolutely and
that would be helpful because I havesome people, but if someone's been doing

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it for years, like I wouldrather get their experience doing that. But
and I also too. I justwant to make it clear. I feel
like a lot of people are goingto feel like this is like because I
don't respect myself, and I feellike the one thing that I do want
to make clear is that this isbecause I respect myself in a way like
this is like I respect myself somuch that I deserve a house. Now,

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That's why I'm doing this, LikeI know I can make this money.
It will take time, and Idon't want to wait in a way.
In a way, I want tojust do it the fastest way possible
so I have more time to dothings like rescues and charities and help my
family and my friends that need helpand be able to do those things faster
because frankly, I know I'm nineteen, but I also know life is short,

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and it's a lot shorter than youthink, and I want to get
it on the what I get it. So this is really my fault because
I failed to become a billionaire.Absolutely before absolutely before you became an adult.
If I'd been a billionaire, you'dbe like, yep, there's no
point. You didn't realize that yourchild was going to be like money hungry
and business business drawn. Well,there you go, Dad's and here I

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am. Go get your bag sothat your daughter doesn't have to look sex
work is work. It's so funny. I don't even consider it sex worker.
I know it is if you're modelingsexy pictures for people, but yes,
it's true, it is that.But it's like it I was gonna

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do this for modeling companies, forbikini companies. Yeah, you see what
I'm saying. So it's like andput the pictures out for free, and
put them out for free, soand in whatever way they were going to
pose me, I don't know whatthat would be. Well obviously, well
but yeah, but obviously it's forthe sex appeal. When you're having it,
I'm showing up, Oh we havethis new bikini spreads your buttcheek.
Excuse me? What? No?No, I mean like this was supposed

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to be. I mean, like, it's obvious that if you're going to
put on a bikini and go liketo a commercial or something, that's they're
going to put you in ways thatit's going to look good for the body.
So it's like I was willing todo that. I was really looking
into that, going, why amI not focusing on this because I'm afraid
I'm going to be thirty looking atmy body, going it's beautiful. Age
is great, but man, whenI was nineteen, I could have made

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a lot of money, and Iwant to be able to do so that's
another thing. And maybe my friendcan help you with this too. You
have to know that whatever you're aboutto do is has a timeline. Oh
absolutely, there's a there's a shelflife is what we would call it in
the industry. Well, no,it's going to end like you. You
can't be like, oh, Imade all this money this month, It's
going to be like this for therest of my life. You have,

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like, please promise me that you'regoing to put back money that you're going
to save, that you're going toinvest like that. We can have a
financial planner, an advisor you cantalk to. I have a financial business
advisor who already wants to help me. People place, they're over there,
okay, a people place, yep, okay, they no financial stuff?

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All right? Well, and Iknow I'm going to invest in save and
also I want to get into stockstoo, Okay, And I'm gonna and
when I have some money, I'mgonna buy buy a house. Maybe you're
getting jealous of all the I wantto buy a house too. Maybe I'll
start only fans. Is there onlyman's that's gonna be only man's? Let

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me know, ladies, you didnot just say only man? Would you
sign up for that? With that? Mans? That? Wait? Hold
up? Damn five bucks? Goodlord, I mean ten bucks. I
can't say I'll support you, butI I'll let you do it. The

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opposite of bark covers don't support allowallow Oh that's so sweet, but I
don't support it, but I'll I'llallow it to less. Please be careful
out there, will there's so manyweirdos, man, Oh, I know,
do you know that? People?They're probably already being weird just on
TikTok or Instagram or people offer medon't thousands of dollars to just talk to

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them. Okay do you? Didyou hear me? Just to continue to
talk to them every day. Ihaven't done it, but I could have.
So, but I could have,So I'll do that. You may
to send them your way. Iwon't, but my dad will sell them
for a discount, say for fIFyou can get those with a beard.

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Yeah, okay, that's hilarious.Oh my gosh. Look if if it
makes you money and it makes youhappy, and you can help you and
your family and you're a good humanand it's not going to ruin future for
yourself, And that's why I haveboundaries. It is because I don't know
thirty year old me like I knowme, and I feel like I'm gonna

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still be okay with it. ButI also want to make sure I have
that room to change if I feellike I want to, which is why
I have those boundaries. But Ialso know if that changes, it changes.
So like I'm just doing what Ithink is smart and what I think
would make me happy, and Ithink that's all anyone should really ever do
a right ever. And I loveyou and respect you and support you through

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all of it. So yay,please be uh, please be safe everything,
and don't don't hesitate to like likeI'm here for you, like through
the process, you know what Imean, Like if there's a like I
don't want like if if I don'tknow anything about OnlyFans, but if something
goes sideways with them and there's likea business issue or a contract, I

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don't want you to be like Ican't ask my dad about this because it's
only fans. Like when I saysupport, I mean I'm going to show
up and create space for you throughoutthis process. So like you know,
I don't want to pick bikini shots. You know what I mean, of
course, But I'm saying, like, if there's a business level situation,

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like I want to yeah, absolutely, and that that would be helpful because
you're definitely helpful when it comes tobusiness and numbers. But I will say
having the amount of money that Imight have from it, we'll see,
let's start one, having the moneythat I might have, but I also
be able to hire someone who's beendoing you know, those things to be

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able to be like, but I'vegot some celebrity friends that have hired people
to manage that stuff, and thatperson screwed them. Dane Cook was screwed
by his own brother. His brotherhandled his finances and stole His brother is
currently in prison for stealing millions ofdollars from Dane Cook. When it comes
to a lot of money, youjust you need checks and balances and audits,

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and people need to watch over eachother. So hurts. Okay,
I forgot my sling. And whenit's down too long, it starts to
pound the s line. Well,this s line keeps it right here.
Are you affected by this right now? A little bit? You a little
bit? Yeah? No, Ikeep you know. Yeah, it's weird.

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It's gonna be weird as a fatherknowing that my daughter's doing that.
But it's also helpful to know that. Also, you're not in a nine
to five job, but you've alsolived that, you've lived that life before.
You're not in it. You arein the industry where you know how
this stuff works. You have friendswho do it, so it's also not
feel like super like way out ofthe blue things. Also, you glad
you're an entrepreneur. I mean,you know, entrepreneurs leverage their their talents

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and specialties where they need to andand I get it, and you're right.
When you're thirty or forty, you'regonna look back. And I want
to help puppies. You could havea nonprofit. I want to help puppies.
Okay, hold on, you couldhave a non profit animal charity situation.
I want to help old puppies likeyou can do. You can help

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animals with your with your clothes on. I hear there's I hear. I
hear those places exist. People woulddonate to a nonprofit. Listen, we
can wrap this up. I'm readyto go eat. Oh okay, tell

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me you said listen. I'm justI'm ready. I'm wanning. I'm you
could have the space to talk.I'm just telling you wherever I want to
sprinkle this idea, I'm gonna sprinkleit because it's gonna ultimately make it more
appealing. I think based off ofmy d MS set up, I'm gonna

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her No, it's okay, keepI mean, keep damning, It'll be
It'll be fine. So like ifI want to send out a mass message,
I can do that. You knowwhat I'm saying. Look, link
is in my bio Instagram. Ilove you, te Lissa. I gotta
put the link in my bio now, don't I love you. I love

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you. Be safe. I will, damn it. I'm always safe and
I always have to watch for myOnly Man's drop common below. If you
sign up, don't why not youstay away from mine, I'll stay away
from yours. No, only Man'sdad whatever. Maybe I'll just be Maybe

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I'll just be walking around and shipI have one question. Maybe I'll just
be walking around just being like,hey, honey, don't worry about that.
I'll take care of the dishes.Maybe they just want to hear that.
I would love to just talk toyou, just on man a lonely
manly man? Are kidding me?Right now? Okay, I'm hot?

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All right? Am I gonna endthe podcast now? I think I'm gonna
end all of it. No,I'm gonna end the podcast all right because
I also technically started this one.I feel like, yeah, all right,
well I guess go do it.So when we drop this, that
means it's already going to exist.Yeah, because I gotta help puppies and

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these dogs are expensive vet bills andchicken and rice skin. Right, well,
forgive me for not promoting it alittle crazy? No, don't you
listen? Listen? Listen the lastthing I want to say, you got
to stop putting your arm on yourhead because I want to have a serious
it hurts. Let's go get someadvil. Okay, what we're you gonna

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say? I just I I raisedyou to make good decisions, to respect
yourself, to respect other people,and to make the best decisions that you
can in the time that you havefor yourself. And if you feel like
that's what this is, then thenyou need to do that. I just,

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like I said, I just wantyou to be safe. I just
want to be safe. I'll besafe. I'll be safe if you be
safe without only man's no, I'mdoing it. Maybe good, good heavens.
Maybe maybe I'll have to have apodcast where I have to reveal to
you that I'm dropping mine. I'llprobably know I'm dropping it like it's hot,

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it's gonna be It's gonna be polaroids. Isn't that an eighties term?
Did I not? Just? WasI not cool? Was I rad?
You missed it? I said,mine's gonna be a bunch of polaroids,
just with bad lighting, just likethe grime on the camera. Are you
kidding? Everything's blown out white?I'm like, you just see my face

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a little bit. Oh my god. All right, and this one put
me out of my misery. Let'sgo eat. I appreciate you talking to
me about it though. Yeah,and good luck. And are we still
going to do the podcast? No, you're quitting daughter issues? No I
thought you meant right now. Nono, no, I mean we're still
going to keep doing this even thoughyou're doing Yeah. I mean, if

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I happen to be on vacation handlingbitness, maybe we might have to schedule
it for later because I'm about toget busy. I'm telling you, I'm
getting busy. This doesn't mean chill, this means work. Okay, so
I'm getting busy. All right,all right, good luck out there,
kid. This podcast has ended onlybecause I'm really really hungry. Can we

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go eat? Let's eat