Lil Tay: Tik Tok-ing to OnlyFans Bonnie Blue Overdrive

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Podcasting since two thousand and five. This is the King
of Podcasts Radio network, King of Podcasts dot com. Lill
Tay goes from trending on TikTok the sexual overdrive on OnlyFans.
We're all a little depraved and debaucherous. Here is the

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king of podcasts. I know, I know another only fans
of the wood. Well, it just happens to come around
where everything aligns to go ahead and talk about this again.
But we're not gonna necessarily go right into Bonnie do Well. We
do have to talk about her tonight because a documentary
about her one fifty seven guys that she had sex

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within twelve hours that was put into a documentary and
is now out and available. We'll talk about that a
little bit later on, but we got to talk about
the latest darling, the latest starlett to come to OnlyFans
who just turned eighteen years old a couple days ago,
Lill Tay, And you're asking yourself, who is that? I know,

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I know. Well, I'll go ahead and get you all
filled in on that so that you are aware. Litl
Tay has a TikTok calling of over five million followers
and nine million flowers across all social media platforms. So
just to give you an idea who she is. Her

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birth name is Claire Eileen Keyhope, an American clash Canadian
internet personality and a musician. Rose to prominence at twenty
eighteen at the age of ten. Now so far in
her career as an influencer, she gained no writer for
controversial Instagram and YouTube videos featuring her boasting about wealth

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using expeedtives. In wrapping he took an online hiatus from
social media in twenty eighteen. I'm at a custody battle
between your parents. There was a false statement of twenty
twenty three about her death posted on her Instagram account,
which was later found to be a hoaxed and she
blamed her a strange father for orchestrating the hoax, an
accusation that he has since declined. And now she is

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back and as of July twenty twenty five, about a
week ago, she chose and made the decision to launch
an OnlyFans account and she has claimed now to mad
over one million dollars within hours of joining the platform,
because she had a lot of people already preparing to
go ahead and join like almost like a presafe like

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a song? What was for her? Now? I was familiar
with some of the stuff that she did online. But
the one thing I knew about her that I was
familiar with was that she had a song that came
out in twenty three to twenty three three called Sucker
for Green. Pretty cool song. I actually kind of like it.
I still got on my playlist, So that was where
I got from her from. So a viral child star,

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adult content creator. Now a lot of issues, and now
she's back here. If she's going on OnlyFans, what is
she going to be doing on only fans, Well, she's
eighteen years old. He's an adult now. Now she wants
to do things sexual. So here's what we got so
far about her. She says that it took three hours

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for her to gain one million dollars on OnlyFans. She
attached the screenshot of earnings page showing that she had
five hundred thousand dollars that came from subscriptions in four
hundred thousand dollars attributed to messages. She has collaborated with
the likes of Jake Paul Diplo. She's gone through a

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lot in her time. She also went underwent open heart
surgery at one point in September twenty twenty four, where
she went under open heart surgery to remove a tumor.
He's done a lot, shared photos of the surgery on
x revealing after two weeks in the hospital, she was
on the mend and, like I said, has done a

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lot for herself. She says, joining only fans is a
sex positive decision. He revealed in August she was going
to join the page to quote move women forward and
support females expressing themselves end quote. She wrote. She actually
posted on a recent TikTok video I just turnathe and honestly,
my biggest reason for one to drop the link has

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been Sabrita Carpenter and Sidney Sweeney. They're literally my top
inspirations are the ones that are bringing women born into
twenty twenty five. That's why I'm going to or thirty
twenty five, she says, That's why I'm going to take
a stand. I'm going to be the youngest one to
stand behind them. You also call out the haters who
were upset with Carpenter and Sweeney, which where they both
had controversy among their fans because the sexualization that's out

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there is great, and that's where everybody's getting all upset about.
Britta Carver putting out her new album coming up this month,
Man's Best Friend, and the initial art for the album
actually has on all fours looking like she's being petted

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like a dog, right or kind of like serving yourself
super submissive. You know, it's again sexually controversial. It's out
there salacious. You know, it catches attension. And the other
thing too, is that we're starting to see a lot
of is that, you know, when people feel like there's
something that's woke and something that's anti woke. We already
know that the capitalism kind of changes things up, okay.

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We know that advertisers are realizing, oh, you know what,
we can actually spark some hate off this minority group
that's all woke, and that's enough to get everybody else
to go and catch on, and then they start buying
into it. It's like, you know, they're playing politics with it.
I don't care about that stuff. I just think it's
kind of interesting the fact that we are getting to
a point where everything is sexual is sexual like it was,

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you know what I mean, Look, sex is okay, sexes
is a thing we were all biologically wired to be
sexual being. Now, of course, the way we do it,
you know, depending on your religion, depending on your culture,
depending on that's many other factors, socio ecological, economical factors,
sociological factors, whatever. Everybody has their reasons for how they

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have sex. But at the end of the day, you know,
there's a reason why we are sexual beings, because we
pro create either which way. It's surprising when she decided
to go ahead and go on this route and listen,
I didn't cover anything about Serbena Carpenter doing the album
Coming for a Man's Best Friend, worry about that social

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media users claiming the image glorified domestic violence, and then
she put out another version of the cover equipped I
think it was improved by God. By the way, I
will say this, I approve a Serbena Carpenter. I think
what she's been doing with her career, this approach. Listen,
for some people, they're gonna be saying, well, what's she doing?
What do you think Madonna did? What do you think
that you know, I won't say like Jennifer Lopez would

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have done, or anybody else sexualizing themselves and big deal.
And of course the Sydney Sweeney American Eagle jeans thing.
I'm not touching that. That's like such a hyper political
thing right now. Of course, I think she looks great
in jeans. She's a good looking girl, both of the
go looking girls and both talented. Everybody wants to talk about,
Oh well, the only look at Sidney Sweeney is a moot. No. No,

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She's an actress and she's an accomplished actress. Okay, so
give it that. And then for Sabrina Carpenter, I think
her music's great. I think she's awesome, and the approach
of her career, killing off the fact that she was
opening for Taylor Swilt in the Airs to her and
how that catapulted her because she was already with a

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career so far had the song Honess, had feather, I
had other songs that were already like out there good stuff,
and then short and sweet, and then everything just goes off,
and like she has taken off, Espresso becomes a song
of the summer last year. You could still hear it
now and it still doesn't get old to me. And
she's got good stuff, and you know what, even when

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she's kind of bashing men with songs, like man child,
I'm all into fine now. I like women that got
some gusto strength and just like you know, tell it
like it is, have some fun out there. Okay, hotly fine,
But there is a point where both of those women
are both in the twenties. They've been you know, they're

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notssarly freshly turned adults. They're both you know, they're grown women.
We'll take just turned into a woman technically, maybe I
don't know in terms of where her immature her maturity
is right now. I mean, of course she's lived a
life from everything that's gone on, with a lot of
issues with family, issues with surgery, issues with death, hoaxes

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and all the back she probably gets on a regular
basis for being such a public figure. It's a lot.
But that's where she's with that now, going on about
what she did. She put all so on a TikTok video.
It's my eighteenth birthday and every mail has been counting
down to it. He's got an ego pretty healthy one

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child rapper slash internet personality, so you already know what
she's doing here. And I'm taking from a story from
the cut from the New Yorker magazine or the New
York magazine that wrote about this, Olivia Craighead writing about this.
He's a pop culture and somebody writer, and she writes
about this young lady and says that, well, if you're wondering,

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who would want to subscribe to the porn account of
someone who was seventeen just a few days ago, the
answer is a lot of people. Is that gross? Yes?
Is she making a ton of money from it? Also? Yes?
So she goes on and explains everything about herself. The
fact that she wants to go ahead and get on
here and her surebral cortex is or frontal cortex or
frontal lobe has not even like a developed yet is

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a little bit concerning. But hey man, look there's the
barely legal thing, and porn has been a thing for
a long time. So for here go ahead and set
up into that, why not? And then the thing too
is that we also know that there have been other
women that have also gone the same round of only
fans when it was available and they decided to go
that route. Case inpoint Bad Baby aka Danielle Bergoli. We

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all remember cash Me Outside, Doctor Phil also going into
her own end with music with flip flops and then
going into other areas of music, and you know, doing
pretty well for herself, and so far to date has
made fifty two million dollars on OnlyFans, And that's where
she's going with it, Okay. As a matter of fact,

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when she posted her OnlyFans earnings, she claimed to have
made more money over a million dollars in her first
three hours, and that bad baby set the record before
that of one point oh three million dollars in six hours.
The money's there when you've made yourself such a public figure,

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then yeah, that's what happens. The other thing that's also
very telling, as she's drawn a lot of interest from
other Only the Fans celebrities, sharing a screenshot of a
DM from Bonnie Blue, who, of course, this show is
very familiar with them. We've talked about plenty of times,
and I'm sure some of you in this program have
probably heard me talk about her well. Olivia. Here in

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the cut, she says, lots of people find this whole
thing disturbing taste TikTok comments are filled with warnings against
joining only Fans. It only hopes that she was talking
about the new music when she spoke about dropping the
link quote unquote talking to were hater, she proglamed she
was still winning despite what they had to say. Quote,
y'all have been doubting me for seven years. You can
hate on me all you want. You can't say little
Tanny winning. So for everybody out there, do whatever the

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hell you want with your life. Who goes the fuck
what people have to say? I remember this little Tay
rich and finneget Richer and oh yeah, thank you to
all my supporters for pre order since twenty eighteen or
whatever you did. End quote. But the approach from younger
people being drawn to OnlyFans, well, we're starting to see

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that the psychology is playing into this as well. But
before I go into that, let me just go and
get the one other thing that Pres Hilton came in
here and said that upon the launch of the only
Fans page, she said, quote, the night of my eighteenth birthday,
one put a mass one minute past midnight. I got
to work, I filmed all the content, and it's finally
coming out tomorrow. This is for everybody that has pre

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ordered since like twenty twenty three is coming. It's finally here.
Everybody that's pre ordered two years before, and they were
already just counting the days to it. That is quite telling.
But here's the story behind all that. Anyway, by Posts
actually talks about this. There is a new study that

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comes out in the Journal of Sexuality and Culture. Many
adolescents in Spain, including those as young as twelve years old,
are not only aware of only fans, but also see
as a viable and even empowering way to make money.
So they spoke with one hundred and sixty teenagers and
discovering that the platforms promoting erotic content are influencing how

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young people, especially girls, do economic opportunity, self worth, and
sexuality means frequently framing content creation as a personal choice
of expression or agency while minimizing the risks. So the
researchers wanted to go ahead and look at the sexualization
of media and the normalization of erotic self presentation that

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affect adolescent's development. They probably saw Lily Phillips and Bonnie
Blue making their way onto the scene on Only Fans
earlier this year. I have no doubt in my mind
that some of the younger women out there were seeing
themselves when they were already looking at where only fans
models were already kind of putting up adult content anyway,

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we already know that was already going on since the pandemic,
since twenty twenty. How we move forward and we have
now gone the five years into the extreme of what
OnlyFans can be as an adult platform, to the point
that now we're getting outside the platform, the stunts and

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the exhibition and all that going on erotic self presentation
to talk about it is exactly what we've talked about
with all these only fans models here on the program
so CUD. The author Christelle an Anguita, a PhD candidate
at the University of Alcala. She says, quote, we were

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increasingly concerned about the impact of hyper sexualized digital culture
on adolescents, especially the normalization of platforms like only Fans
across social media. Now the platforms are legally restricting to adults,
but miners are not only access in the content, but
also integrating into their everyday culture and career aspirations. They
wanted to explore how this exposure affects her psychosocial development,

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gender perceptions, and views on intimacy and success. Yes, one
hundred and sixty four high school students ages twenty twelve
to sixteen exci to me from both urban and rural
areas of Guadalajara and Spain. So focus group discussions as
part of a broader sex education program, and they go

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through a lot of research know reflexive thematic analysis identifying
recurring patterns on how teens describe their understanding of OnlyFans.
So the researchers found on the young teens have a
sophisticated understanding about Only Fans works. They were able to

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describe the platform's business model on detail how subscribers pay
for exclusive content. Our earnings depend on popularity, frequency of posts,
and willingness to share more explicit material. Listen, monetizing just
the way TikTok or Instagram or anybody else does. But
it's the adult content, the thing that they can make
more money on because of the value of it for
that immediate moment. It's often referenced girls physical appearance as

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a key factor of success, suggesting that those who match
certain beauty standards are more likely to earn money. We
already know that, Listen. I mean, I can go through
my fyp on TikTok regularly and I can't tell you
the bevy a beautiful wman that I see young women
that just come across my feet. Partly is because there's
certain songs I might be listening to and I catch
up on and they're dancing to them, or it could

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be older music and they're just catching up with something
that's like a song that's like all right, and some
young ladies all dressed up out for the end of
the day looking amazing. I mean the work that you
know for these women look beautiful and beyond here. And
of course the adulation the ogling of many men out there,
probably my age and younger going into this and going
into hearing all the women that are on here. You

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see it. And that's the difference between the gateway between
what women would do to get onto a Maxim magazine
or an Fachim cover and then move on and step
up to a Playboy or Penthouse cover. This is the
exact same correlation from TikTok or Instagram all the way

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over into OnlyFans. It's the same thing. Now for those
that want to go and say, well only fans isn't
always about that, and only fans tries to position themselves
as not for a dull content. But we will know
that's where they go over adult content, and there I say,
the Only Fans has become what Playboy used to be,
and maybe a little bit more than that, who knows.

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But it's also amateur. There's not even professionals on here.
There might be influencers on here that are that have
been professionally shot and photographed and modeled and all this.
There's you know, they professionally know how to go make
their makeup to make sure they look good for whatever.
The TikTok videos that they do or YouTube videos that
they make, they kind of figure that out. So the
glamorization that already comes up there, the photographing, the beauty

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that is magnified on Instagram or TikTok, you have objectification
of the bodies right for the women that are there,
and they say, you know what, am I wanting to
go to take that next step? And Only Fans is
that next step? Because then the only difference is that
you have clothes on on TikTok and Instagram don't on

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Only Fans. It's the same thing, it's just a new
variation to it. But the other difference is is this
because the women that are on these sites for the
most part, may might have management. They might have some
people that are consulting and kind of taking direction to
what they're doing with their careers. They have management, but

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for the most part, it's not like you're part of
some setup where you have a lot of professionals that
are actually handling your career. There's none of that. Instead,
a lot of these women just might be on their
own before they get to the point that they get
drawn into this. And it's not of anything else more
than the fact that if you're able to get more young, young,

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beautiful women to go hea and go to these platforms,
make money off of them for only fans, they can
go and be as pretentious and sanctimonious as they want
to be. Okay, but even they have to understand, Okay,
you got these young women, you know, dime a dozen
coming up on the sites, and they might make the
initial money rain on those sites, but then we'll actually

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we'll drop after a while, depending on how long the
appeal for these stars you're able to go and be
Because you got to ask yourself, like, I mean, how
long does some of these women last to go and
stay on here? Because the most important thing for them,
that is the reason that they feel like they can
get more out of the traction out of these OnlyFans

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careers is because of a couple of things. Number One,
the interaction with their audience with the fans that they
get of this, the ones that are just you know,
they're all going over and they're doing other things to
get off on the fact they see the beauty of
them naked or doing certain sex acts themselves. It's that

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personal touch. And then the other part that also bothers
me is because it's also online. This is not in public.
You know. It's like, sure, there's a lot of things
on the Internet that will always be there, and will
we always be second time? You can't do anything about it.
Nothing you can do about it. But what you do
have to deal with is the fact that it was

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one thing to have physical copies of you on a
magazine or on a video or DVD or whatever it
was and being sold as such. But now it's all
this stuff that's online. And it's like for the women here,
the young women, the teens on this particular research study,
and for the women that are also doing the content,

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you know, they lose track, lose complete connectivity with real
life because everything's virtual. There's nothing real about everything that
they're doing. Except for the beauty. But you know, it's
like they're not out there interacting with real people in
the real world. If they are being well managed and
also being orchestrated, probably not all in real life, and

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they're not getting paparazzi around them and all these kind
of things like I don't know. Moving on through this
psychological study, participants often reference the girl's physical appearance or
as the key factor in success. That boys also discovered
platform as a realistic option for their own futures, seeing
it as more lucative for women. Some teens would express

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this comfort with the sexual content associated with only fans,
but others freeing participation as a rational economic decision, especially
for girls who might not pursue judicial education or employment.
That's the big thing that's also too, is that the
women will think that if they put their bodies up
on these sites and the money they can make off
of this, this is what they're going to be able
to have, that's their only value. And that is sad

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and that's tragic to hear that someone actually think that
it's only their beauty that's going to get them somewhere. No,
it's always been I mean, bile, it's a woman's beauty.
That is often the appeal, the approach, and then for
all you know, men and women to be approached and
drawn to her. But then when the beauty begins to

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fade away, it's the wisdom that woman gains that makes
her relevant in a different way as she evolves in
life as a mother, as a provider, a caretaker, as
a partner, or as a leader whatever. There were some
that also likely that the prostitution, questioning whether anyone would

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choose he truly chooses to sell intimate content if they
are struggling economically and attention, echoed broader concerns in the
literature about how the language of empowerment can mask deeper
power and balances. But I always see this too for
some of these women that decide to go this route.
Look at little Tade's situation, broken family. Who knows what
kind of trauma she's gone through on top of the

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fact she decided to go and put herself out there
to be recognized and become popular at ten years old,
and the kind of pressure that puts on a young girl.
And now eight years later, here she is, and she's
become popular, and you know, who knows what she's gone through,
because I'll imagine she couldn't live a normal life now,

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after all she's gone through. No way. The promotion of
only fans on popular platforms like TikTok, Instagram, and Twitter
also emerges significant influence X by the way, not Twitter.
Teacher boarded seeing frequent posts or ads on the platform,
often featuring stories of people making thousands of euros per month.
Because we're talking about Spanish kids sharing sexualized photos or videos,

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and some students received direct messages encouraging them to create
content or subscribe to accounts. How about that are we
talking about? There are people out there that are trying
to lure young women into making accounts on OnlyFans? Is
that a thing going on too? A recruitment process very
quietly under the would work. That's amazing. That's actually kind

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of concerning to me, really when I look at them,
boys reported seeing pop up with that pop up ads
are priority content and group chats like in Telegram or discord.
Many admitted to accessing this content despite only fans age restrictions,
despite workarounds to bypass verification. Now listen if you are
looking to go and find content has been ripped off
of only Fans, it's out there. And for those women

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that are out there, you know, don't think that you're
not gonna be able go ahead and say, oh that
my content's not going to get found. Oh no, there
will be guys that will get a subscription. They'll find
a way to go ahead and rip it down. They'll
be able to download it, they'll get it somewhere, they'll
post it somewhere else, and eventually it takes time. It's
just like got all the other porn. Eventually somebody's gonna
put up there and you're gonna be able to see it.

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It'll be out there for free somewhere, but for the meantime.
In the meantime, it'll be out there. You can try
to make a little money off of right off the bat.
Another important finding they had was how strongly only Fans
was associated with financial success and teams signing the platform
is an easier and more appinning alterns of traditional work
or education. And this environment, sexual self presentation was often

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described as a smart or even admirable strategy. Oh that's
sub dollars. Might call this neoliberal sexual entrepreneurship, where individuals,
particularly young women, are encouraged to brand themselves online and
turn to their sexuality into a marketable asset. The danger,
researchers argue, is that this logic reduces self worth to
how well one can attract attention or generate income from

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one's appearance. There's some delusion out there for young women.
It comes from all different directions. Okay, let's just say
that feminism has grown into such a thing now that
it's out of control, and for women, I feel for you,
young women that listen to this program. I feel for
you for the directions you have to go through and

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weave around and I go through obstacles all over the place.
Because there are guys that might try to do some
kind of downplay your worthy value, downplay your beauty because
of their own shortcomings, because of their own traumatic events
that have caused them to be horrible people to date

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or to interact with. If they're not sexually active, they're
not sexually understanding and have the proclivities to know how
to be sexually active. I don't know how to have
sex with a young woman and know what to do.
Some of those guys probably are inefficient in the bedroom.
Just saying it like that too, besides being awkward, because

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they're younger now. The lead researcher also says we were
quote struck by how naturally out of us and discuss
only fans with the clear understanding of the subscription based
model and even sharing techniques to bypass age restrictions. Yeah,
but they're women that if they can get themselves onto

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the site and they're not even eight three years old,
which could be a possibility that some of those only
fans models that are on there, guys, you might be
looking at someone that might be underage, and is that
a good thing to be a part of. And they
also looked where how adolescents experienced and deshverbted this digital culture.
Girls were more likely to express concerns about body image,

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judgment and safety. Well. Boys spoke more casually about the
platform or focus on its financial potential. And so it's
reinforcing long sending inequalities on how girls and boys are
socialized around sex and self expression. For example, girls were
more likely to receive on wanted sexual messages or feel
pressure to meet meaty standards. Boys describe their role as

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more consumers more than creators of content. And this is
the thing the split that is stupid. This is the
part I have an issue with because I don't want
it to be where guys are looking at women and
they can't have a natural, conventional relationship. Now, in a
couple of weeks, I have a really great guest I'm

(27:53):
going to bring on to the Brave and the Botress.
I am finishing his book. It's called Primal Dating. And
just give you a quick caveat before we go ahead
move along, because the book, I can tell you, is amazing.
This book is mind blowing. Primal Dating, the unflinching evolutionary

(28:15):
psycho psychology Guide to Modern Relationship. What I'm telling you
is that they are going through popular myths that we
all hear, whether it's from you know, cousins, brothers, sisters, friends, whoever,
the things you hear about dating and what you should do.
And they go through and they reveal the biology that

(28:37):
shapes human relationships. That's always been in us. It's inherent,
it's natural, it's who we are as we grow up.
And the thing is this particular story, Oh my goodness,
I'm blown away by what he's talking about. Let me
tell you, it's seriously the most important dating book I've

(28:59):
ever read of my life. And I have read over
one hundred dating books a month. There's not one book
I have read that has got my attention and has
given me more insight. It's not a book trying to
give me the skills to become a good dater. No,
it's telling me how I'm wired, how I really am,
and helping me reset the way I should be looking

(29:20):
on how I interact with women, being responsible and accountable
for the kind of man I need to be to
attract the woman that I want to be with. There's
so much in this book that says everything that you've
got to realize, and I'm telling you. Once I get
my guests in a couple of weeks, Tom ash On,

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I'm going to interview him next week, and I plan
to go ahead and turn around the episode for the
following week in two weeks from now on the program.
That's what I'm planning to go and do. If I
don't put it out as a regular episode, because who knows,
there's probably some new content it comes out, some news
I got to go and talk about, and depending on
what happens, either I will add it as an extra

(30:04):
episode that you'll have in the feed in two weeks,
or it will be it will be the episode coming
up in two weeks. But again before you even get
to me, if you want to go ahead and find
out about this book, and I'm giving you it's getting
the highest recommendation, the highest endorsement I can give possibly.
And I don't do this lightly. It's not my thing
to plug and promote all this stuff over here. But

(30:26):
let me tell you, I know the host will be
the author of this book. To Mash, I've known her
for twenty years, so smart guy, and I've worked with him.
And when I heard about this book and I started
reading it about two thirds of the way through, I
am amazed. My eyes are opened. And there's only a

(30:46):
couple of books about dating that ever really got my attention.
And this book is it, The Primal Dating, The Unflinching
Evolutionary Psychology Guide to Modern Relationships. You don't need another
dating book. Forget women are from being as Bennifer Mars,
Forget about that book. Forget about all the other books
you've ever read. The other ones are junk compared to

(31:08):
this book. Primal Dating, The Unflinching Evolutionary Psychology Guide to
Modern Relationships on Amazon. It's available in kindle and paperback
you just got to find it. The book is. I mean,
there's a lot I'm going to say about it, but
I will give you a taste of what that book
is going to be about, and you're going to realize
why I'm so bought up into this fine not for yourself. Anyway,

(31:30):
back to the story here on the psychology that also
in the research, there's so much they learned about this,
but we kind of knew about this too, and the
researchers also looked at being worried about the normalization of
sexualized self presentation and the lack of critical reflection on
the long term consequences, the same thing I talk about

(31:50):
with tattoos. I say the same thing about that. By
the way, I did get a couple of comments after
my episode on tattoos trauma that I keep getting every
time I do this episode, and I got a handful
of comments talking about that this past week. I want
to go and bring up a couple of those real quick. Here.
I and M wrote back, and he says, my ex

(32:14):
girlfriend had a mermaid tattooed on her thigh that covered
much of her upper lake. Wearing a short skirt. You
could see a fish like tail emerging from under the
fabric totally lost on her the connotations of a fishy
region for those gentlemen smart enough to connect the dots. Unfortunately,
he was crazy. Where the ex part comes from now.
In the research, the researchers said that parents have a

(32:38):
role to play. Open, non judgmental conversations about sexuality and
media influence can help teens navigate these complex environments. And
then there's about how governments and tech companies constrecten policies
to prevent the promotion of sexualized content de miners. But
it still comes down to the parents. Parents got to
make sure that they have a good grasp of where

(33:00):
their kids are on social media, the friends they hang
out with, their interactions and find out what they're involved into. Like,
the thing is the most important thing they can do
is that you know whatever interactions theyre with friends. Like
the only one thing I've always heard from parents was
the parents that will say, hey, you know, I want
to keep in mind on my kids. Then let the

(33:21):
friends come over and hang out. You know. Be the
parents that say, hey, you know, if you want to
go and do you get together? They come over to
our house, you want to sleep over and come over
to our house. You can go ahead and know what's
going on. You could be in the know. That's not
a bad idea to go there out. So there's a
lot to that. Now onto the story about Bonnie Blue,

(33:41):
because of course we got to talk about her. She's
in the space as always, And man, I went along
on this shot and expected to go so long, but hey,
what can I say? One thousand men of me, the
Bonnie Blue Story, The Troubling Tale of sex with one
thousand For these seven men and twelve hours, she has
been labeled everything from predator to victim. Both says she
has no dabty is she has no traumer in her

(34:02):
past and none induced by her work. Since she's been
accused of being a traitor, saying you're getting into the patriarchy.
Has received multitudinous insults disgusting the porable slapper end quote.
They make the point in this particular documentary that she

(34:24):
is as steely in her approach to her career as
she is that Cavanite and her labors. When she needs
the court attention, the easiest way is to often insult.
The insults of wives and girlfriends of the men who
watch her and come to her events. Quote I just
loved that knowing I was doing something, They're why I
should have done end quote, recommending bringing their partners underwear along. Quote,
I'll make them smell much nicer. Quote. Wow, this girl

(34:50):
is something. Quote that if a girl says she is
on her period, there's nothing wrong with her throat end quote.
And listen, Bonnie Blue, that she is a I mean, listen,
she's a character. I can't possibly do that she's doing
all this year, but it is entertaining the gun here anyways.
But I also have not watched any of her content.

(35:11):
I haven't gone to look for it, and I also
just not dropped in my lap to go and find it.
And it's like, it's not one of those things I'm
looking for. The story that she cas here is very
interesting to me. But like you know, like women are women,
you know, for you're looking at naked women. You know,
one naked body is another naked body you've seen before.
I don't think you see much different, he says. Everybody says,
my brain works different. I'm done just emotional. If I

(35:33):
wanted to get upset, I won't get upset. If I
don't want to get upset, I won't get upset, and
she says. Quote this particular writer reviewing this says that
do I admire her work, ethic and facility for business? Yes?
Do I wish we lived in the world where the
best option for realizing those talents as a young women
was not through making online porn. Yes. Do I see

(35:54):
where we go from here? Yes? I do? And she
will be fine of that is going on right now.
It's on Channel four the documentary I haven't seen yet.
I mean, I'll go ahead and try to leg off
for that. That made me an interesting story to go
look at. And there's more on this. The Guardian, by
the way, putting that story out and there's more to
this as well, and a story from Gabby Hinsliff saying

(36:18):
that Bonnie blues point Empirements is the point. This is
hardcore economics. They say that there's more to the story
than just sex, gender politics or Bonnie herself. It's a
story about money, the merging the oldest trade of the
world with the newer attention to economy and exorably geared
towards rewarding extremes, and what that does to the society

(36:38):
that unwillingly produced it and buys and buys into it,
and consumes it. The biggest short, short term beneficiary of
Bonnie is posting rage bait videos expertly calibrated to provoke
women who already can't stand her. Being hated is great
for business, she experienced triply. The more woman publicly announcer,

(37:00):
the more their sons and husbands will google her. Her
real skill is monetizing both lust and rage, crossing the
Internet's two most powerful streams to capture its most lucrative currency, attention.
He's right, he's playing both sides, and she's making good money,
as with all of that. But that's the difference where
Bonnie Blue blows away by everybody else because here only fans.

(37:24):
Performers can't advertise as a normal business would, so they
promote themselves by seeing clips across social media, ideally of
them doing something wild enough to go viral. Since people
get bored easily, the pressure's always to get wilder and wilder,
pushing way past whatever you thought were limits. Little Tay's
gonna learn that lesson pretty soon. She's already going into that.
She's already seasoned the doing that, So for here, go ahead,

(37:45):
follow that same suit and fall the Bonnie Blue path. Well,
she sees where Bonnie Blue's going with it and how
much it's made for her. She's seeing what bad money is.
Bad baby excuse me has done in the same career
and she's fall in the same suit. Why not. One
of the story I want to bring up in here
before we wrap things up was another beauty brand out there.
We already heard about what's been going on with Duncan Donuts.

(38:05):
They have a young huntingly guy talking about golden Summer,
you know, iced coffee drinks, Sydney swingeing with American Egle jeans,
and now Urban Decay there is another one as part
of this and the partnership they're working with Ari Kitsia
and the story from Pop Sugar writes that it's time
that beauty brands recognize the influence of only fans stars.

(38:27):
So Urban Decay launched a Battle of the Bland, a
campaign runted by this twenty four year old model known
for social media for comedic getting ready with me, Can't
it Take some plastic surgery and over at sexuality and
she comes across as a beauty ambassador with a traditional
feel to herself. Brunette, heavy chested, very conventional, you know,

(38:54):
very mainstream beauty features that everybody can can like accept.
And I'm kind of think of who she looks like,
who she resembles in the face, but I can't think
about it right now. But for herself, she's been on TikTok.
She is on TikTok and she's racked to four point
six million followers, many of them are women drawed through
her blunt transparency. So Urban Decay is now working with her,

(39:16):
and there's been some controversy behind her from the same
people that also said about her, you know, what are
we doing with all these you know, women that are
not so diverse when it comes to shape or color
or culture and all that stuff. So Urban Declay. Urban
Decay actually put out some Instagram teasers stop a stand

(39:38):
with Mark when he's like, may contain boring or bland content,
And there were a series of social videos where all right,
Kissie claud Any leather Boostier declares, breaking news, we are
in a plandemic. Was it makeup? Meant to perform on stage?
On camera? And yes on mattresses? And this is something
that the Urban Decay brand was built on, identity, on provocation,

(39:59):
with product like Naked, Get Baked, Druggie and Vice. So
they're reclaiming the spot as Beattie's rebellious older sister. And
it's not the first time they've gone after somebody was
very common troversial to be an influencer. For Urban Decay
twenty twenty two, they tapped you for your breakout star
Chloe Cherry, a former porn actress turned mainstream star, to

(40:21):
lead its Vice lip Bond campaigns, and now Urban Urban
Decay is now recognizing the power of provocative creators who
defy traditional industry standards. And yeah, you know, I haven't
been paying attention to commercials because they're not obviously for
me at all, but I have seen her on my
TikTok feed a billion times right now setting up for that,
but again for makeup for jeans, the things we would

(40:45):
like to see on beautiful women, right that's what we're
looking at right now. That's what's being put out there,
interesting stuff go to close things out. I hope that
some of the young women out there will take some
consideration that was some of these researchers are doing. Because
they're only talking to kids twelve the sixteen years old
from Spain, but I think it can apply the same
thing for in America as well, that you don't necessarily

(41:07):
have to go right to only fans from TikTok, because
if you do, it's a little depraved, and the Bochers

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