July 30, 2025 • 35 mins
A new study published in the Journal of Research in Personality suggests that people often make inaccurate judgments about an individual's personality based on their tattoos.
Researchers at Michigan State University, including William Chopik and Brooke Soulliere, conducted an experiment involving 274 tattooed adults and a separate group of college students and professors who were asked to judge the personalities of the tattooed individuals based on photos of their tattoos alone. The study found that while the judges often agreed with each other on what a tattoo might signify, their conclusions rarely matched the self-reported personalities of the tattoo owners.
The researchers discovered that people were frequently misjudged on traits such as agreeableness, conscientiousness, extroversion, and neuroticism. The only exception was for people with "quirky or wacky" tattoos, who were accurately perceived as being open to new experiences, a trait that was confirmed by their own personality tests.
The findings highlight how judgments about tattooed people are often based on stereotypes rather than reality. The study also mentioned that previous research has shown that women with visible tattoos are less likely to be hired for supervisory roles, suggesting these misconceptions can have real-world consequences.
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Researchers at Michigan State University, including William Chopik and Brooke Soulliere, conducted an experiment involving 274 tattooed adults and a separate group of college students and professors who were asked to judge the personalities of the tattooed individuals based on photos of their tattoos alone. The study found that while the judges often agreed with each other on what a tattoo might signify, their conclusions rarely matched the self-reported personalities of the tattoo owners.
The researchers discovered that people were frequently misjudged on traits such as agreeableness, conscientiousness, extroversion, and neuroticism. The only exception was for people with "quirky or wacky" tattoos, who were accurately perceived as being open to new experiences, a trait that was confirmed by their own personality tests.
The findings highlight how judgments about tattooed people are often based on stereotypes rather than reality. The study also mentioned that previous research has shown that women with visible tattoos are less likely to be hired for supervisory roles, suggesting these misconceptions can have real-world consequences.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Podcasting since two thousand and five. This is the King
of Podcasts Radio Network, King of Podcasts dot com. What
do all those tattoos you wear say about you? We're
all a little depraved and debaucherous. Here is the King
of Podcasts. Welcome to the program. This is King of Podcasts.
(00:24):
Welcome you to another episode. We're gonna talk about tattoos once again,
because it's the story that never wants to go away.
Three years ago I did an episode Hey Him, in
an episode I used to do the series when I
first started doing the praise in the Boers. I would
do a thirty minute episode during the middle of the week,
and I would do a couple of shorter episodes in between,
(00:44):
and then I changed to a thirty minute format. And
I've been here roughly ever since, sometimes ago a little longer.
But one of the subjects that I rotated in my
normal list of topics to bring up on this program
for tattoos, because I noticed that there were in least
what I saw. And this also goes back to studies
(01:05):
that I was reading about back then tattoos and their
relation to trauma, because I notice when some people, if
it's not for culture or personal significance for those that
want to get tattoos. I feel like sometimes that is
like a calling card of someone that has dealt with
some various levels of trauma. And I've had studies that
(01:28):
I have brought up here on the program to back
that up. And so that particular episode, you know, I mean,
he has gotten quite a few views. But one of
the things I got more than anything was is that
people keep coming across this on my YouTube feed. They
keep commenting about it, and I'm looking back at how
(01:49):
many times I've gotten comments on this particular episode, but
it keeps happening and there's nothing much else I could
do about it, but it's here. So I've gotten a
good amount of comments so far, and there have been
more since. And every time we have comments that come up,
I'm going to bring them up because I'm like, well
this continues to be a subject. I'll go back to
it again. Now. I initially got no particular comments about
(02:15):
this video until about ten months ago when I started
looking back at everything that was here, and maybe it
was somebody that was on here that really just started
giving you know, the real commentary, just got really worked
up on it because the first person that wrote on
there was just a phase thing. It's probably best to
(02:38):
look at actual studies before making such claims. But I've
had a very even handed set of comments here that
agree with me and those that are kind of myth
by the fact that I would bring this up. And
then I had someone that came to my defense saying
that they had done study in Germany about the correlation
(03:01):
between tattoos childhood trauma, and there was a research article
that was out on there on the internet about this,
and I actually was referring to an article at that
time to support what I said. And back then this
lady Emily Jane eight eight eight, and I referred back
to this where she said that she was she's beginning
(03:22):
of since she was fourteen. She's now thirty six, and
she started asking herself, why did I start doing this.
I left tattoos and tribal cultures that have body modifications. However,
I did find out what happened to me when I
was a kid. I was neglected and there were all
sexual abuse amongst other trauma. So she makes my point.
She's the one example, but she will feel deeply that
(03:42):
she will always enjoy her tattoos. There are symbols of
strength and overcoming the painful things that happened in my life.
I also think they may even aid in strengthening the
Vegas nerve. More studies on people tattoos and childhood trauma
would be very interesting. So Emily, I've continue to talk
about this. I have not let this go. And then
another month later brought b one t rights and says
(04:05):
tattoos equal high body count. I love the fact that
these three or fours or stuff identifying. Of course, if
this man with a relationship is with the tattooed, then
at least know what they're getting. And then there was
a response to that comment a month ago. I have
not brought this one up yet. Darryl Elkins six 't
(04:25):
eighty one rights high body count can also be first,
then the tats later. I know a girl that did
this in that order, tats all down the legs. I
never saw this coming. He did it at a much
older age than most would, in her fifties. I think
when the attention runs though reducing the amount of hookups,
some turned to the tramp stamp to point out the
easy layup now could be a bit shallow. A lot
(04:50):
of people could think if they heard the red of
that content right there. Another person just recently, writing in
the dis in the last day or so a l
R two thousand, rights inc Equals trauma, red flag, mental ish,
red flag, high body count, red flag, toxic, red flag drugs,
(05:13):
red flag, run excamation point, red flag. We move forward.
And then somebody wrote here, Deborah shed slighton one four
two seven rights, there is nothing normal about it, fool,
and you know that people has been desynthesized to it
that simple, just like the balance on TV these days
(05:35):
is not normal. And then a few months later one
is tattoo lovers unite, tattoo hitter is just a quiet
keeps the peace. This is from rich Sherman three sixty
seventy three. And then FFRD one eleven says we have
to look at them. And this was a response to
that comment. Just about a day ago. Another person writes
(05:58):
self mutilation mes fister zero nineteen sixty the Zeke zero
one one, you have valid points. I won't argue against
your findings. And then I had the person that said
two months ago, when I did this episode last time,
she it was to me. This person V. Tomlinson says
this was halfway very informative and halfway one sided. I
(06:18):
think it's more cause versus correlation that you need to
look into. And then somebody running after that the Electric
Cheese production is saying that I should present hypotheses on
the psychological psychological mechanisms responsible for the behavior beyond up
being a coping mechanism or a form of expression. So
I did go back to that, and then since I
(06:39):
did that episode, here are the new comments that were
made to this. Omega Wicked writes, yes, sir, js Pia
n Y writes, tattoos on a woman's scream, I'm an
urshole with an ax to grind or I'm trying so
hard to be someone I am not, so please notice me.
(07:01):
That's probably a comment to me. They're trying to say
of that. And then someone John's three one oh six
says yeah, because guys with tattoos are trying to find
under the radar. Please and then l R. Twenty thousand
comes back. It says one hundred. Dara Elkins comes back
after writing what seven months ago, like that it is
(07:23):
a tramp stamp and all men should be happy that
it's there to let them know up from what they're
getting christ jenk Is nine ninety seven eight. It's not trauma,
it's narcissism and obsessing, control and neediness. Tattoo culture is
a cult to belong to. Then someone else writes tramp
stamps and then warn k you Doles nine nine eight
(07:45):
rights it's the need to display stupidity. Another person who's
not named here. This is especially true of women. Tattoos
are warning labels on people, especially women. Reply back to
This is from Kathleen Key four seven, who writes tattoos
or graffiti. Fake tats, Hannah ink box or body mark
(08:08):
are bumper stickers which you could remove. This is all
going on. This is within the last month since I
did that last episode. Dave Richard's nine one four one
will never get how trauma equals drawing on yourself. I'm
gonna help me try to get some more context of
this because we're going to figure out more of this tonight.
A few more comments here. Now, I love tattoos, beautiful
(08:31):
way of a self expression or just art. As long
as it's not for trends and it's done by a
good artist, you probably won't tore against it. That's from
Lady Ladeira Unicorn seven and there's responses to her, where
Age of Love writes in and says Sure, like with
everything in life, there are good ways to do something
and bad ways, good reasons or or not. Good artists
(08:54):
and bad ones doing something well prepared while research are
doing just whatever. Doing things because you think as beautiful
or just because you want others to like you. In
that sense of tattoo is no more than different from
anything else in life. The consequence is just a lot
more permanent. I think that in the last bit, the
trauma argument comes in. If you are confident and mentally stable,
you will probably consider all the positive I mentioned because
(09:16):
you know, hey, I'm probably gonna have to look at
this for the rest of my life, but I better
make sure this is exactly what I want. Maybe you
had a few months before you actually commit to see
if you might think about things differently. By then, if
you have some serious baggage, your self esteem, your notion
of self worth may not be so prevalent, so you
don't invest as much into research and care in your tattoo,
(09:37):
up to a point that you might not have even
considered getting one if you would have actually done so.
And yeah, then you are stuck with it obviously, So
I do see a bit of a connection there between
trauma and tattoos in some cases. Thank you Age of
Love nineteen eighty for getting my point. Let me get
back that this one more time. The trauma argument coming in.
(09:58):
If you're confident and mentally stable, you'll consider all the positives,
and you could wait if you want to go ahead
and make the commitment to put some ink on your
body or some additional ink. But here's the part of
where agel Love says, if they're a serious bag at
your self esteem, your self worth are not so prevalent,
(10:19):
and you don't worry about the research. I really don't
care about what you're putting on your body. It just happens.
I think that makes good sense. A couple more comments.
They're just rolling in here, Okay, another one. Tattoos are
disgusting and look like black grease. I have petty women
who disfigure themselves with ink. Don't wreck your natural appearance.
(10:39):
Danville writes, this is only a day ago. Another person.
I judge people who have tats negatively from FND one
to eleven. Once again, albr two thousand rights. I'm actually
glad tattoos are so common now because they stop meaning anything.
My experience, I've never met a tattooed woman who didn't
carry deep emotional tree. That doesn't mean everyone with tattoos
(11:02):
is healed, but the impulse to personally mark yourself often
comes from unresolved pain, low self esteem, or a need
to feel seen. Some say it's arti storytelling, but in
the age of social media, you've got countless ways to
express your story without metilating your body. And people change
your mindset, your beliefs, your identity will evolved. A tattoo doesn't.
It stays even if it no longly represents who you are. Firstly,
(11:26):
when I see a woman with tattoos, it feels like
a warning from God or fate, telling me to be
cautious or walk away. As sooner or later they always
confirm exactly why that warning was there. Now that everyone's
doing it, even the lowest of the low, it's all
lost all uniqueness. Clean skin stands out more, and eventually,
where the trend that fades, regret will rise. A tattooer
(11:47):
feels more about someone's judgment than most realize. So that
is a great way to kind of segue into what
I have tonight. One more thing we have here is
from a more immortis who writes it just looks like
that because ninety percent is traumatized and without body mods
look at things like smoking, drink, drugs and alcohol, topic addictions,
(12:10):
food addictions, etc. Blah blah blah. Why be so bothered
about a stranger's personal business anyway? Pathetic? So I've gotten
the full spectrum of commentary on this here, and it
goes back to the story I talked about in July
of twenty twenty two. Tattoos are more common among those
who experience childhood of abuse and neglect. Let's move forward
(12:32):
to what I have today. A new study that comes
out being published in the Journal of Research and Personality,
and this is a study from Michigan State University. The
study says that tattoos don't convey accurate impressions of people.
So let me go into the journal itself and what
they're saying here. So there are various institutions that are
(12:57):
part of this research over the years time twenty five
Michigan State University of Michigan, University of Georgia and they
Centered for Psychedelic and Conscious Research, and Department of Psychiatry
and Behavioral Sciences at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, Ink
and identity perceptions personality perceptions based on tattoos. And here's
what we got from this so far. Some of the
(13:21):
bullet points that they had gotten out of this were
tattoo related to personality judgments, especially openness and to experience.
Judgments were consistent across raiders, but largely interaccurate. Overall, Blackie
tattoos were weekly but actually linked to higher openness. The
lens model showed utilized cues that really reflected actual personality descriptions,
slightly improved the census, but not judgment accuracies. Let's go
(13:44):
into the actual story what they have here, into the abstract.
People with or without tattoos are often judged differently, but
previous research often neglects the type of characteristics of tattoos.
They surveyed and examined two hundred and seventy four adults,
average age twenty five years old twenty four point five.
(14:07):
They looked at seventy one pint two percent were women
and seventy seven point two percent were white, and they
all had collectively three hundred and twenty five tattoos. Who
agreed to have their tattoos photographed for the study and
computed a battery of personality measures. There was consensus about
(14:28):
the personalities of people who had a particular tattoo that
judges agreed. In the perceptions of people with tattoos, the
judgments were largely inaccurate, with a few exceptions, and those
who have tattoos that are considered wacky, they're meant to
be very openness to experience and mostly more modestly accurate
(14:48):
and attributed to how wacky the tattoo was. So right now,
as I said, it's very common tattoos. Right now, some
estimates are suggesting that nearly a third of US adults
that live have at least one tattoo now. A couple
of decades ago, early two thousands, the researcher stirking hot
and actually said that many individuals associate tattoos with violence, criminality,
(15:11):
and mental illness. That's not the case here. It's much
more broader than ever it is now. While tattooed individuals
may be stigmatized, previous researches often focus on comparing judgments
about people who either have or do not have tattoos. However,
several factors likely may have affected how tattooed people are judged.
So the content of a tattoo, a person with a
(15:34):
tattoo with drug perfernally might be thought of differently than
someone with a Hello Kiddy tattoo. Researchers really examine if
these characteristics are associated with interpersonal judgments, and by extension,
if the judgments are accurate. So we know that for
some people, tattoos often carry special meanings, important things about
what they about why they got it, about the person
(15:55):
who decided to give that tattoo, and listen numbers of
reasons why people will get the tattoos. Obviously you could
ask some people are more than happy to go and say, well,
this is why I got it and this is what
it is. So the judgments of tattooed people dependent part
on the content and design of their tattoos, or how
would knowledge of a tattoos meaning impact people's perceptions of
(16:15):
those with them. And then also people having at least
some control over how they present themselves of the world,
like with the clothes they wear, the body modifications they
might make, and any likely particular characteristics that predict why
people get tattooed. Now the tattoos they shooing here do
not always communicate those characteristics explicitly, and people will harbor
(16:37):
all sorts of thoughts and stereotypes about people with tattoos. Now,
attitudes with people with tattoos have changed over time because
more people are getting them. Pretty clear with that, the
number of people with tattoos have increased dramatically in the
recent years, and maybe many people interpret this as a
growing acceptance, but the stigma surrounding them still exists. They're
just people viewing tattooed individuals as more neurotic and less
(17:00):
conscientious and agreeable, despite there being little clear support for
these or other clear differences between either side who have
ink and knot. I'm just repeating reporting for the researchers.
This is not coming from me, but I will give
commentary here a little bit here in just a moment.
But now they move along in the story here and
that the work I only tell people how tattooed people
(17:23):
are judged and different from non tattooed people. But the
approach was being limited in assuming the people with tattoos
are one homogeneous group with the same psychological characteristics. Correct
that we don't want to go ahead and pigeonhole everybody
that has tattoos saying they have problems or they're red
flags that are toxic. I would never think that because
I absolutely think there are many people out there that
(17:48):
have grown to love and it's just what they enjoy
and it doesn't have to be where you come from
a certain culture, whatever it is. It's just a thing
like a collection. People want to have it and they
want to have it on them and it doesn't really
matter about that. But you can kind of tell they
didn't really see so much about because in the study
they're saying they're looking at the areas of where they
(18:12):
try to get the significance of what the tattoos and
what they represent and how that you can judge somebody.
But I think the real story is it's not so
much about what the characteristics are of the tattoos that
are chosen. It's more about how many. They're getting to
the point where your natural skin is sleeved and not
(18:36):
just sleeve one arm, both arms, whole body, neck, everything,
because we're getting to the point where a lot of
people they just prefer to go ahead and get as
much as they can and if they can cover their
whole body they will that is quite excessive. I think
the excessiveness of tattoos and people having an addiction possibly
(18:59):
to going to get a needle put on them to
get another tattoo done and have more to go up there.
I mean, there is something to be considered by the
fact that they can find plenty of things they want
to put on their body. But because this study says
right here that there's a normalization of it, the stigmatism's gone.
(19:20):
Nobody's really feeling the way they did about tattoos as
they used to. But you know, you can kind of
tell certain characteristics about somebody that has tattoos, how many
do they have? Because it is number one when you
know you're trying to get into any profession, if it's
a professional place where you have to go and throw
(19:41):
on a suit or you have to go on some
kind of uniform, and that particular job wants to make
sure your tattoos are covered. Then the thing is is
that when you see people that are trying to go
and cover up and they have the tattoos are just
not conceivable. There's somebody there really can't too much of
(20:01):
And to the point where some people maybe if they're
if they feel comfortable to have long sleeve shirts or
whatever to cover themselves up, because it's the impression that
the employer wants to have that they don't want to
have somebody looking at them and saying, well, look at
all these tattoos that you have, and some kind of
judgment because the customers might have, you know, an ill
(20:22):
advised judgment about that employee. But that doesn't mean the
employee is bad inherently, that's the point. So they go
on and say that there are many different reasons mean
someone may get a particular tattoo. In turn, tattoos can
very dramatically in their type, style, and content. They decided
to go and work on what's called a lens model
(20:44):
to make sense and judge the accuracy. A lens model
describing how observers discern underlying traits by inspecting the elements
of their environments. The element service is a lens through
which observers perceive underlying concepts. So a tattoo with a
misspelling could be a lens which an observer perceived a
person's lack of conscientiousness. If people lower and conscientiousness are
(21:06):
indeed likely to have more misspellings in their tattoos. Observer
judgments should converge with the underlying concept, resulting in accuracy.
But you're looking at identity claim symbolic statements intended to
reinforce self use or communicate to others how they would
like to be perceived. The other part that's very interesting
is they talk about how people can also judge other
(21:27):
people based on the behavior and virtual spaces. So like
if you see somebody online, for instance, if you're on
a dating app and you see an online profile, can
you see the tattoos in that person? What kind of
judgment do you have. It's one of those things that's
very curious to me, because you know, on dating profiles,
do you see that a lot? I mean, do you
ever notice I always used to see sometimes when I
(21:49):
look at women's dating profiles, if they had tattoos, like
the initial profile picture they would put up most likely
would not have any tattoos on them, So it was
something they want to go ahead and divulge right away.
Maybe not on purpose, it might have been just more
sub subconsciously than anything else. But I always noticed that
(22:10):
if there was the one that I met on a
sugar daity site or dating site and or whatever that
that first initial picture you would not see any tattoos
on them, but you would see them in subsequent pictures
and you wouldn't know it until later on. And then also,
personality judgments are not respected to laptop stickers and social
media profiles. People will also judge someone's personality by looking
(22:30):
their physical appearance. Rumpy or friendly expressions, smalling or not smiling,
displaying strong or weak emotions are associated with personality judgments.
And there was a sunny they talk about that was
from Borkan out two thousand and nine, that people could
judge a person's extra version levels just after fifteen milliseconds
of exposure to a picture of them. That people will
readily use cues about a person that judge your personality
(22:51):
and tend to do so quickly and often accurately. So, yeah,
we have stigmas out there and we have people to
judge pretty quickly, But how would people use the content
of a person since tattooed to judge their personalities? They
have some preconceived notion of who they are. There have
been not a lot of studies out there on this,
but it stands the reason that people might rely on
stereotypes or sosietal norms, particularly identity related to cues, even
(23:15):
if that reliance can lead to inaccurate judgments. All right.
For instance, I can't tell you how many times I
look at these body cam videos. Okay, you know how
we always up the show Cops, and I would go
and see all these people on TV, you know, had
it up, and they were always certain people that had
see with tattoos and how they were placed. And knowing that,
(23:38):
you know, in those particular cases, these people that are
criminals being caught up by law enforcement, you know, their reaction,
the way they present themselves and the kind of condition
that they're in that leads them to be arrested or
charged with numerous felonies or misdemeanors or whatever. That there's
something to be said about that. And that's one of
(23:58):
those things where I wonder if police when they look
at someone and they see the amount of tatoos they have,
what kind of judgment they have. That would be a
great study if police officers and how they're supposed to
judge people. And the same thing goes for you know,
other professionals, judges or first responders. I'd love to know
what they think about if they see someone and you know,
(24:18):
again a blind controlled study, anonymous people, what would people
in those kind of positions, what would they perceive about someone?
But of course there's other sides of the coin. There
are people that are also very religious, church minded, those
coming out of recovery have converted, they changed their lives.
They you know, may be giving themselves to God and
(24:40):
might have all these tattoos they had from a previous life,
and you know, we would have a different thought of
them as well. Now, in the participants they had, of
the numbers they had in here, two hundred and seventy
four adults with tattoos from eighteen to seventy years old,
predominantly women, predominantly white, eight percent Black, eight percent, latinx
(25:03):
Asian three percent among others. Fifty two percent of these
study participants, fifty two percent of their tattoos were somewhat visible,
twenty nine four point twenty nine point four percent were
very visible, seventeen point six percent not visible. So this
particular sample, they were necessarily trying to get and put
(25:25):
it out there to be seen that there might not
be there for public eye sight. That easily most tattoos
in this particular study were black or gray fifty five
point five percent thirty four point five percent color. The
most commonplace for the body of the tattoo. On the
body of the tattoo was a person's arm thirty nine
point one percent, side of the body thirteen point eight percent,
(25:48):
risks eleven point five percent. That's the part we have
from that. In the conclusion, judges were able to glean
on a person's openness to experience from their tattoos with
modest accuracy. Particularly they were wacky versus serious tattoos. You've
validity was low, suggesting people that with different tattoos are
relatively similar. At leite and when they did the study
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to get the judgments, they team showed photos of the
people's tattoos to a second group of thirty college students
and a professor's asking them to judge the bear's personality
solely based under tattoos. Judges didn't agree with each other
regarding what a tattoos said about a person, but judgments
really corresponded to the tattoo owners self reported personality. But yeah,
it's gonna be like you predetermine who somebody is with
(26:32):
their tattoos on, but that person might just come back
around and say, well, you don't know anything about me,
and that can happen too. It's a fascinating story, but
do you think there's a lot more that should be taken.
What they also want to look at is behavior towards
tattoos people changes based on the judgments they have. The
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researchers wrote that, for example, women with visible tattoos are
less likely to be hired for supervisory positions and offered
a lower salary than peers without visible tattoos. The study
says that discrimination based on someone having tattoos is likely
never acceptable. However, as we showed, people make different judgments
about different types of tattoos, even if personality was rarely
related to the types of tattoos people have. Fascinating but
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do you see where I'm coming from with this? I
wanted to present more evidence that comes in here and says, remember,
and my thing is this, I'm never necessarily hampering at
it about people with tattoos, especially when it comes to men.
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I'm not so concerned about it as much as ann
for women. Because my point is this, I mean, I
can't say anything for the men that might have suffered
trauma in whatever shape or form if they did, and
this reason that their reason why they have tattoos in
the first place. But I think it's more important to
go and talk about the fact that the women, the
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young women that decide, okay, you know when you have
when women perceive for natural beauty, I mean, this is
a natural beauty to yourself. I go on the same
kind of tirade because I like to see women that
are just naturally beautiful, that they don't really need that
much makeup or at all. I don't know, man, I
guess I see a lot of TikTok videos and I
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see a lot of young beautiful women across my feed
on a regular basis, and it doesn't look like it's
just it's just a very small sampling. I don't think so.
But a lot of young women, you know, are have
beauty within them, and you know, you got to ask yourself, like,
what is the reason why we see certain women that
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will make particular modifications. I never talk about the septums,
piercings or the other piercings that are being done, but
I think there's something to be said about piercings and
tattoos that women will get at a younger age, and
when I see a lot of times sometimes naive tay.
You know, I talked about three years ago about the
(29:03):
mall and this particular story that I go pass by,
I think it's shock inc. I think it's called and
when I passed by that store, you know, it's not
a surprise to me anymore that I see girls that
are what sixteen seventeen years old, that are what their parents,
their mother, father or usually their mother, and they're with
them to go get a tattoo for the first time.
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I can't tell how any times I've seen that happen.
And that's okay, listen to do what you want. But
it's like there's some young, beautiful girls that do you
want to get to that point? Yet? Like is there
enough you know, responsibility or accountability to say, you know what,
do you really want to do it to yourself? Because
as we said in the comments here, when I read
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through these, you know, there is a part to be
said about if there's issues about low self esteem or
other things are getting going back to alr Are two
thousand saying the fact that you know doesn't mean everyone
with tattoos is healed, but the impulse to permanently mark
yourself often comes from unresolved pain, low self esteem, or
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need to feel seen. And then I go back to
Age of Love nineteen eighty and what was brought in
there as well that if you're confident mentally stable, you
will probably consider all the positives mentioned because I'm probably
gonna have to look at this for the rest of
my life. I mean, because the other thing too is
that at the time that a woman decides to go
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and do this, the question is, you know, they haven't
met their future mate. You don't know who they're going
to be, if there was a decision to get married
or decision to have be a mom and have children.
You know, it's one of those things where do you
want to have that representing what your past life was,
because you're gonna be a different person once you become
you know, in a relationship or married. Are you moving
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all your life? Like the adventure part of your life.
It's one thing to go ahead and party, have fun,
you know, go get laid, you know whatever, if you
get drunk, you'd a little a little bit of a
little bit of weed, a little bit of whatever you
imbibe in certain things. Okay, so it comes and goes.
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But tattoos being done during that adventurous time of your life,
lent young ladies, and then it's something that you stick
with for the rest of your life. It's a lasting image.
It's one thing different than what say, there's memories you know,
in photographs or other things. But I'm talking about like
it's permanent. I mean, sure you could probably do a removal,
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but the thing is that is a major step to
go and go that you know, patch on your body
to be forever, if that's what you want. I think
it's pretty significant. And I think that everything being said
here gives me a pause to say, you know what,
we have a conversation we still need to keep keep
(31:54):
going with. But now, all of you that are listening
to this program, if you're catching this and you were
commenting before or listening to the previous episodes that I've
done on tattoos, I hope you will go ahead and
set up to talk more about this on the next
threat on this particular episode, because I want this to
be a conversation. I don't want to create the complete
(32:16):
assumption here that this is where things are and that's
the way it is. I want more and like I said,
I did an episode about this, and you know, I
want to know that there's something more to this and
just see if there's anything comes across that is important
to say. One person, g Hugh Inc. Put a comment
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on my last episode saying, another thing is quote unquote
tattoos or war paint end quote. They tell a story
as just what the Native America is going into battle
or gang tattoos in prisons. So there's a lot still
to be said. There's more to go on here. When
people are asking me what's the psychology evidence, I'm presenting
it to you. We're going to talk about it, and
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there's much more to going to be said. So I
hope that people understand where I come from, where I
want to continue to keep this conversation going. There's much
more to it, and I hope we can continue to
talk about this. It's a very interesting subject. But more importantly,
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I just want you know, for women out there, if
you're gonna make that choice, you know, if there's things
that happened to you that have taken a toll on you.
When you hear other people around you say you're beautiful,
and maybe it's not somebody that you really think you
really care about because you're just gonna say it. Oh so,
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if it's mother or father, if it's a sister, brother, cousins,
you know, aunts and uncles, whatever the family members are
telling you're beautiful, Well, that's one thing, and everybody's going
to just think, well, that's just they're going to just
say that because they love me. That's it underconditionally. But
if there's other men and women out there, for women,
if there are many women out there that just really
think you're beautiful and they see you, and then you
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decide to go ahead and you know, throw a tattoo
on you, it's one thing of it's culture and significant
or if it's some significance of you know, somebody of
a past loved one, whatever it might be, understood, never
gonna go against that part. I'm not gonna say that.
You can't just completely you need to be completely clean.
I don't expect that anymore. I understand that now. But
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then also at the same time, we see a lot
of cultures were it's not even a thing really at all,
because it's just you know, Western society is alloweded. It's
not been anywhere else. It's not everywhere else around the world,
not necessarily. But you know the thing is, you don't
necessarily have to go ahead and go with the tattoos
and leave a permanent mark, because we already know you're
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still going to be depraved. And the boxers mean
Podcasting since two thousand and five. This is the King
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(00:24):
Welcome you to another episode. We're gonna talk about tattoos once again,
because it's the story that never wants to go away.
Three years ago I did an episode Hey Him, in
an episode I used to do the series when I
first started doing the praise in the Boers. I would
do a thirty minute episode during the middle of the week,
and I would do a couple of shorter episodes in between,
(00:44):
and then I changed to a thirty minute format. And
I've been here roughly ever since, sometimes ago a little longer.
But one of the subjects that I rotated in my
normal list of topics to bring up on this program
for tattoos, because I noticed that there were in least
what I saw. And this also goes back to studies
(01:05):
that I was reading about back then tattoos and their
relation to trauma, because I notice when some people, if
it's not for culture or personal significance for those that
want to get tattoos. I feel like sometimes that is
like a calling card of someone that has dealt with
some various levels of trauma. And I've had studies that
(01:28):
I have brought up here on the program to back
that up. And so that particular episode, you know, I mean,
he has gotten quite a few views. But one of
the things I got more than anything was is that
people keep coming across this on my YouTube feed. They
keep commenting about it, and I'm looking back at how
(01:49):
many times I've gotten comments on this particular episode, but
it keeps happening and there's nothing much else I could
do about it, but it's here. So I've gotten a
good amount of comments so far, and there have been
more since. And every time we have comments that come up,
I'm going to bring them up because I'm like, well
this continues to be a subject. I'll go back to
it again. Now. I initially got no particular comments about
(02:15):
this video until about ten months ago when I started
looking back at everything that was here, and maybe it
was somebody that was on here that really just started
giving you know, the real commentary, just got really worked
up on it because the first person that wrote on
there was just a phase thing. It's probably best to
(02:38):
look at actual studies before making such claims. But I've
had a very even handed set of comments here that
agree with me and those that are kind of myth
by the fact that I would bring this up. And
then I had someone that came to my defense saying
that they had done study in Germany about the correlation
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between tattoos childhood trauma, and there was a research article
that was out on there on the internet about this,
and I actually was referring to an article at that
time to support what I said. And back then this
lady Emily Jane eight eight eight, and I referred back
to this where she said that she was she's beginning
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of since she was fourteen. She's now thirty six, and
she started asking herself, why did I start doing this.
I left tattoos and tribal cultures that have body modifications. However,
I did find out what happened to me when I
was a kid. I was neglected and there were all
sexual abuse amongst other trauma. So she makes my point.
She's the one example, but she will feel deeply that
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she will always enjoy her tattoos. There are symbols of
strength and overcoming the painful things that happened in my life.
I also think they may even aid in strengthening the
Vegas nerve. More studies on people tattoos and childhood trauma
would be very interesting. So Emily, I've continue to talk
about this. I have not let this go. And then
another month later brought b one t rights and says
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tattoos equal high body count. I love the fact that
these three or fours or stuff identifying. Of course, if
this man with a relationship is with the tattooed, then
at least know what they're getting. And then there was
a response to that comment a month ago. I have
not brought this one up yet. Darryl Elkins six 't
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eighty one rights high body count can also be first,
then the tats later. I know a girl that did
this in that order, tats all down the legs. I
never saw this coming. He did it at a much
older age than most would, in her fifties. I think
when the attention runs though reducing the amount of hookups,
some turned to the tramp stamp to point out the
easy layup now could be a bit shallow. A lot
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of people could think if they heard the red of
that content right there. Another person just recently, writing in
the dis in the last day or so a l
R two thousand, rights inc Equals trauma, red flag, mental ish,
red flag, high body count, red flag, toxic, red flag drugs,
(05:13):
red flag, run excamation point, red flag. We move forward.
And then somebody wrote here, Deborah shed slighton one four
two seven rights, there is nothing normal about it, fool,
and you know that people has been desynthesized to it
that simple, just like the balance on TV these days
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is not normal. And then a few months later one
is tattoo lovers unite, tattoo hitter is just a quiet
keeps the peace. This is from rich Sherman three sixty
seventy three. And then FFRD one eleven says we have
to look at them. And this was a response to
that comment. Just about a day ago. Another person writes
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self mutilation mes fister zero nineteen sixty the Zeke zero
one one, you have valid points. I won't argue against
your findings. And then I had the person that said
two months ago, when I did this episode last time,
she it was to me. This person V. Tomlinson says
this was halfway very informative and halfway one sided. I
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think it's more cause versus correlation that you need to
look into. And then somebody running after that the Electric
Cheese production is saying that I should present hypotheses on
the psychological psychological mechanisms responsible for the behavior beyond up
being a coping mechanism or a form of expression. So
I did go back to that, and then since I
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did that episode, here are the new comments that were
made to this. Omega Wicked writes, yes, sir, js Pia
n Y writes, tattoos on a woman's scream, I'm an
urshole with an ax to grind or I'm trying so
hard to be someone I am not, so please notice me.
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That's probably a comment to me. They're trying to say
of that. And then someone John's three one oh six
says yeah, because guys with tattoos are trying to find
under the radar. Please and then l R. Twenty thousand
comes back. It says one hundred. Dara Elkins comes back
after writing what seven months ago, like that it is
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a tramp stamp and all men should be happy that
it's there to let them know up from what they're
getting christ jenk Is nine ninety seven eight. It's not trauma,
it's narcissism and obsessing, control and neediness. Tattoo culture is
a cult to belong to. Then someone else writes tramp
stamps and then warn k you Doles nine nine eight
(07:45):
rights it's the need to display stupidity. Another person who's
not named here. This is especially true of women. Tattoos
are warning labels on people, especially women. Reply back to
This is from Kathleen Key four seven, who writes tattoos
or graffiti. Fake tats, Hannah ink box or body mark
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are bumper stickers which you could remove. This is all
going on. This is within the last month since I
did that last episode. Dave Richard's nine one four one
will never get how trauma equals drawing on yourself. I'm
gonna help me try to get some more context of
this because we're going to figure out more of this tonight.
A few more comments here. Now, I love tattoos, beautiful
(08:31):
way of a self expression or just art. As long
as it's not for trends and it's done by a
good artist, you probably won't tore against it. That's from
Lady Ladeira Unicorn seven and there's responses to her, where
Age of Love writes in and says Sure, like with
everything in life, there are good ways to do something
and bad ways, good reasons or or not. Good artists
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and bad ones doing something well prepared while research are
doing just whatever. Doing things because you think as beautiful
or just because you want others to like you. In
that sense of tattoo is no more than different from
anything else in life. The consequence is just a lot
more permanent. I think that in the last bit, the
trauma argument comes in. If you are confident and mentally stable,
you will probably consider all the positive I mentioned because
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you know, hey, I'm probably gonna have to look at
this for the rest of my life, but I better
make sure this is exactly what I want. Maybe you
had a few months before you actually commit to see
if you might think about things differently. By then, if
you have some serious baggage, your self esteem, your notion
of self worth may not be so prevalent, so you
don't invest as much into research and care in your tattoo,
(09:37):
up to a point that you might not have even
considered getting one if you would have actually done so.
And yeah, then you are stuck with it obviously, So
I do see a bit of a connection there between
trauma and tattoos in some cases. Thank you Age of
Love nineteen eighty for getting my point. Let me get
back that this one more time. The trauma argument coming in.
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If you're confident and mentally stable, you'll consider all the positives,
and you could wait if you want to go ahead
and make the commitment to put some ink on your
body or some additional ink. But here's the part of
where agel Love says, if they're a serious bag at
your self esteem, your self worth are not so prevalent,
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and you don't worry about the research. I really don't
care about what you're putting on your body. It just happens.
I think that makes good sense. A couple more comments.
They're just rolling in here, Okay, another one. Tattoos are
disgusting and look like black grease. I have petty women
who disfigure themselves with ink. Don't wreck your natural appearance.
(10:39):
Danville writes, this is only a day ago. Another person.
I judge people who have tats negatively from FND one
to eleven. Once again, albr two thousand rights. I'm actually
glad tattoos are so common now because they stop meaning anything.
My experience, I've never met a tattooed woman who didn't
carry deep emotional tree. That doesn't mean everyone with tattoos
(11:02):
is healed, but the impulse to personally mark yourself often
comes from unresolved pain, low self esteem, or a need
to feel seen. Some say it's arti storytelling, but in
the age of social media, you've got countless ways to
express your story without metilating your body. And people change
your mindset, your beliefs, your identity will evolved. A tattoo doesn't.
It stays even if it no longly represents who you are. Firstly,
(11:26):
when I see a woman with tattoos, it feels like
a warning from God or fate, telling me to be
cautious or walk away. As sooner or later they always
confirm exactly why that warning was there. Now that everyone's
doing it, even the lowest of the low, it's all
lost all uniqueness. Clean skin stands out more, and eventually,
where the trend that fades, regret will rise. A tattooer
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feels more about someone's judgment than most realize. So that
is a great way to kind of segue into what
I have tonight. One more thing we have here is
from a more immortis who writes it just looks like
that because ninety percent is traumatized and without body mods
look at things like smoking, drink, drugs and alcohol, topic addictions,
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food addictions, etc. Blah blah blah. Why be so bothered
about a stranger's personal business anyway? Pathetic? So I've gotten
the full spectrum of commentary on this here, and it
goes back to the story I talked about in July
of twenty twenty two. Tattoos are more common among those
who experience childhood of abuse and neglect. Let's move forward
(12:32):
to what I have today. A new study that comes
out being published in the Journal of Research and Personality,
and this is a study from Michigan State University. The
study says that tattoos don't convey accurate impressions of people.
So let me go into the journal itself and what
they're saying here. So there are various institutions that are
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part of this research over the years time twenty five
Michigan State University of Michigan, University of Georgia and they
Centered for Psychedelic and Conscious Research, and Department of Psychiatry
and Behavioral Sciences at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, Ink
and identity perceptions personality perceptions based on tattoos. And here's
what we got from this so far. Some of the
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bullet points that they had gotten out of this were
tattoo related to personality judgments, especially openness and to experience.
Judgments were consistent across raiders, but largely interaccurate. Overall, Blackie
tattoos were weekly but actually linked to higher openness. The
lens model showed utilized cues that really reflected actual personality descriptions,
slightly improved the census, but not judgment accuracies. Let's go
(13:44):
into the actual story what they have here, into the abstract.
People with or without tattoos are often judged differently, but
previous research often neglects the type of characteristics of tattoos.
They surveyed and examined two hundred and seventy four adults,
average age twenty five years old twenty four point five.
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They looked at seventy one pint two percent were women
and seventy seven point two percent were white, and they
all had collectively three hundred and twenty five tattoos. Who
agreed to have their tattoos photographed for the study and
computed a battery of personality measures. There was consensus about
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the personalities of people who had a particular tattoo that
judges agreed. In the perceptions of people with tattoos, the
judgments were largely inaccurate, with a few exceptions, and those
who have tattoos that are considered wacky, they're meant to
be very openness to experience and mostly more modestly accurate
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and attributed to how wacky the tattoo was. So right now,
as I said, it's very common tattoos. Right now, some
estimates are suggesting that nearly a third of US adults
that live have at least one tattoo now. A couple
of decades ago, early two thousands, the researcher stirking hot
and actually said that many individuals associate tattoos with violence, criminality,
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and mental illness. That's not the case here. It's much
more broader than ever it is now. While tattooed individuals
may be stigmatized, previous researches often focus on comparing judgments
about people who either have or do not have tattoos. However,
several factors likely may have affected how tattooed people are judged.
So the content of a tattoo, a person with a
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tattoo with drug perfernally might be thought of differently than
someone with a Hello Kiddy tattoo. Researchers really examine if
these characteristics are associated with interpersonal judgments, and by extension,
if the judgments are accurate. So we know that for
some people, tattoos often carry special meanings, important things about
what they about why they got it, about the person
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who decided to give that tattoo, and listen numbers of
reasons why people will get the tattoos. Obviously you could
ask some people are more than happy to go and say, well,
this is why I got it and this is what
it is. So the judgments of tattooed people dependent part
on the content and design of their tattoos, or how
would knowledge of a tattoos meaning impact people's perceptions of
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those with them. And then also people having at least
some control over how they present themselves of the world,
like with the clothes they wear, the body modifications they
might make, and any likely particular characteristics that predict why
people get tattooed. Now the tattoos they shooing here do
not always communicate those characteristics explicitly, and people will harbor
(16:37):
all sorts of thoughts and stereotypes about people with tattoos. Now,
attitudes with people with tattoos have changed over time because
more people are getting them. Pretty clear with that, the
number of people with tattoos have increased dramatically in the
recent years, and maybe many people interpret this as a
growing acceptance, but the stigma surrounding them still exists. They're
just people viewing tattooed individuals as more neurotic and less
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conscientious and agreeable, despite there being little clear support for
these or other clear differences between either side who have
ink and knot. I'm just repeating reporting for the researchers.
This is not coming from me, but I will give
commentary here a little bit here in just a moment.
But now they move along in the story here and
that the work I only tell people how tattooed people
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are judged and different from non tattooed people. But the
approach was being limited in assuming the people with tattoos
are one homogeneous group with the same psychological characteristics. Correct
that we don't want to go ahead and pigeonhole everybody
that has tattoos saying they have problems or they're red
flags that are toxic. I would never think that because
I absolutely think there are many people out there that
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have grown to love and it's just what they enjoy
and it doesn't have to be where you come from
a certain culture, whatever it is. It's just a thing
like a collection. People want to have it and they
want to have it on them and it doesn't really
matter about that. But you can kind of tell they
didn't really see so much about because in the study
they're saying they're looking at the areas of where they
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try to get the significance of what the tattoos and
what they represent and how that you can judge somebody.
But I think the real story is it's not so
much about what the characteristics are of the tattoos that
are chosen. It's more about how many. They're getting to
the point where your natural skin is sleeved and not
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just sleeve one arm, both arms, whole body, neck, everything,
because we're getting to the point where a lot of
people they just prefer to go ahead and get as
much as they can and if they can cover their
whole body they will that is quite excessive. I think
the excessiveness of tattoos and people having an addiction possibly
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to going to get a needle put on them to
get another tattoo done and have more to go up there.
I mean, there is something to be considered by the
fact that they can find plenty of things they want
to put on their body. But because this study says
right here that there's a normalization of it, the stigmatism's gone.
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Nobody's really feeling the way they did about tattoos as
they used to. But you know, you can kind of
tell certain characteristics about somebody that has tattoos, how many
do they have? Because it is number one when you
know you're trying to get into any profession, if it's
a professional place where you have to go and throw
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on a suit or you have to go on some
kind of uniform, and that particular job wants to make
sure your tattoos are covered. Then the thing is is
that when you see people that are trying to go
and cover up and they have the tattoos are just
not conceivable. There's somebody there really can't too much of
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And to the point where some people maybe if they're
if they feel comfortable to have long sleeve shirts or
whatever to cover themselves up, because it's the impression that
the employer wants to have that they don't want to
have somebody looking at them and saying, well, look at
all these tattoos that you have, and some kind of
judgment because the customers might have, you know, an ill
(20:22):
advised judgment about that employee. But that doesn't mean the
employee is bad inherently, that's the point. So they go
on and say that there are many different reasons mean
someone may get a particular tattoo. In turn, tattoos can
very dramatically in their type, style, and content. They decided
to go and work on what's called a lens model
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to make sense and judge the accuracy. A lens model
describing how observers discern underlying traits by inspecting the elements
of their environments. The element service is a lens through
which observers perceive underlying concepts. So a tattoo with a
misspelling could be a lens which an observer perceived a
person's lack of conscientiousness. If people lower and conscientiousness are
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indeed likely to have more misspellings in their tattoos. Observer
judgments should converge with the underlying concept, resulting in accuracy.
But you're looking at identity claim symbolic statements intended to
reinforce self use or communicate to others how they would
like to be perceived. The other part that's very interesting
is they talk about how people can also judge other
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people based on the behavior and virtual spaces. So like
if you see somebody online, for instance, if you're on
a dating app and you see an online profile, can
you see the tattoos in that person? What kind of
judgment do you have. It's one of those things that's
very curious to me, because you know, on dating profiles,
do you see that a lot? I mean, do you
ever notice I always used to see sometimes when I
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look at women's dating profiles, if they had tattoos, like
the initial profile picture they would put up most likely
would not have any tattoos on them, So it was
something they want to go ahead and divulge right away.
Maybe not on purpose, it might have been just more
sub subconsciously than anything else. But I always noticed that
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if there was the one that I met on a
sugar daity site or dating site and or whatever that
that first initial picture you would not see any tattoos
on them, but you would see them in subsequent pictures
and you wouldn't know it until later on. And then also,
personality judgments are not respected to laptop stickers and social
media profiles. People will also judge someone's personality by looking
(22:30):
their physical appearance. Rumpy or friendly expressions, smalling or not smiling,
displaying strong or weak emotions are associated with personality judgments.
And there was a sunny they talk about that was
from Borkan out two thousand and nine, that people could
judge a person's extra version levels just after fifteen milliseconds
of exposure to a picture of them. That people will
readily use cues about a person that judge your personality
(22:51):
and tend to do so quickly and often accurately. So, yeah,
we have stigmas out there and we have people to
judge pretty quickly, But how would people use the content
of a person since tattooed to judge their personalities? They
have some preconceived notion of who they are. There have
been not a lot of studies out there on this,
but it stands the reason that people might rely on
stereotypes or sosietal norms, particularly identity related to cues, even
(23:15):
if that reliance can lead to inaccurate judgments. All right.
For instance, I can't tell you how many times I
look at these body cam videos. Okay, you know how
we always up the show Cops, and I would go
and see all these people on TV, you know, had
it up, and they were always certain people that had
see with tattoos and how they were placed. And knowing that,
(23:38):
you know, in those particular cases, these people that are
criminals being caught up by law enforcement, you know, their reaction,
the way they present themselves and the kind of condition
that they're in that leads them to be arrested or
charged with numerous felonies or misdemeanors or whatever. That there's
something to be said about that. And that's one of
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those things where I wonder if police when they look
at someone and they see the amount of tatoos they have,
what kind of judgment they have. That would be a
great study if police officers and how they're supposed to
judge people. And the same thing goes for you know,
other professionals, judges or first responders. I'd love to know
what they think about if they see someone and you know,
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again a blind controlled study, anonymous people, what would people
in those kind of positions, what would they perceive about someone?
But of course there's other sides of the coin. There
are people that are also very religious, church minded, those
coming out of recovery have converted, they changed their lives.
They you know, may be giving themselves to God and
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might have all these tattoos they had from a previous life,
and you know, we would have a different thought of
them as well. Now, in the participants they had, of
the numbers they had in here, two hundred and seventy
four adults with tattoos from eighteen to seventy years old,
predominantly women, predominantly white, eight percent Black, eight percent, latinx
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Asian three percent among others. Fifty two percent of these
study participants, fifty two percent of their tattoos were somewhat visible,
twenty nine four point twenty nine point four percent were
very visible, seventeen point six percent not visible. So this
particular sample, they were necessarily trying to get and put
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it out there to be seen that there might not
be there for public eye sight. That easily most tattoos
in this particular study were black or gray fifty five
point five percent thirty four point five percent color. The
most commonplace for the body of the tattoo. On the
body of the tattoo was a person's arm thirty nine
point one percent, side of the body thirteen point eight percent,
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risks eleven point five percent. That's the part we have
from that. In the conclusion, judges were able to glean
on a person's openness to experience from their tattoos with
modest accuracy. Particularly they were wacky versus serious tattoos. You've
validity was low, suggesting people that with different tattoos are
relatively similar. At leite and when they did the study
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to get the judgments, they team showed photos of the
people's tattoos to a second group of thirty college students
and a professor's asking them to judge the bear's personality
solely based under tattoos. Judges didn't agree with each other
regarding what a tattoos said about a person, but judgments
really corresponded to the tattoo owners self reported personality. But yeah,
it's gonna be like you predetermine who somebody is with
(26:32):
their tattoos on, but that person might just come back
around and say, well, you don't know anything about me,
and that can happen too. It's a fascinating story, but
do you think there's a lot more that should be taken.
What they also want to look at is behavior towards
tattoos people changes based on the judgments they have. The
(26:54):
researchers wrote that, for example, women with visible tattoos are
less likely to be hired for supervisory positions and offered
a lower salary than peers without visible tattoos. The study
says that discrimination based on someone having tattoos is likely
never acceptable. However, as we showed, people make different judgments
about different types of tattoos, even if personality was rarely
related to the types of tattoos people have. Fascinating but
(27:19):
do you see where I'm coming from with this? I
wanted to present more evidence that comes in here and says, remember,
and my thing is this, I'm never necessarily hampering at
it about people with tattoos, especially when it comes to men.
(27:40):
I'm not so concerned about it as much as ann
for women. Because my point is this, I mean, I
can't say anything for the men that might have suffered
trauma in whatever shape or form if they did, and
this reason that their reason why they have tattoos in
the first place. But I think it's more important to
go and talk about the fact that the women, the
(28:00):
young women that decide, okay, you know when you have
when women perceive for natural beauty, I mean, this is
a natural beauty to yourself. I go on the same
kind of tirade because I like to see women that
are just naturally beautiful, that they don't really need that
much makeup or at all. I don't know, man, I
guess I see a lot of TikTok videos and I
(28:20):
see a lot of young beautiful women across my feed
on a regular basis, and it doesn't look like it's
just it's just a very small sampling. I don't think so.
But a lot of young women, you know, are have
beauty within them, and you know, you got to ask yourself, like,
what is the reason why we see certain women that
(28:41):
will make particular modifications. I never talk about the septums,
piercings or the other piercings that are being done, but
I think there's something to be said about piercings and
tattoos that women will get at a younger age, and
when I see a lot of times sometimes naive tay.
You know, I talked about three years ago about the
(29:03):
mall and this particular story that I go pass by,
I think it's shock inc. I think it's called and
when I passed by that store, you know, it's not
a surprise to me anymore that I see girls that
are what sixteen seventeen years old, that are what their parents,
their mother, father or usually their mother, and they're with
them to go get a tattoo for the first time.
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I can't tell how any times I've seen that happen.
And that's okay, listen to do what you want. But
it's like there's some young, beautiful girls that do you
want to get to that point? Yet? Like is there
enough you know, responsibility or accountability to say, you know what,
do you really want to do it to yourself? Because
as we said in the comments here, when I read
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through these, you know, there is a part to be
said about if there's issues about low self esteem or
other things are getting going back to alr Are two
thousand saying the fact that you know doesn't mean everyone
with tattoos is healed, but the impulse to permanently mark
yourself often comes from unresolved pain, low self esteem, or
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need to feel seen. And then I go back to
Age of Love nineteen eighty and what was brought in
there as well that if you're confident mentally stable, you
will probably consider all the positives mentioned because I'm probably
gonna have to look at this for the rest of
my life. I mean, because the other thing too is
that at the time that a woman decides to go
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and do this, the question is, you know, they haven't
met their future mate. You don't know who they're going
to be, if there was a decision to get married
or decision to have be a mom and have children.
You know, it's one of those things where do you
want to have that representing what your past life was,
because you're gonna be a different person once you become
you know, in a relationship or married. Are you moving
(30:54):
all your life? Like the adventure part of your life.
It's one thing to go ahead and party, have fun,
you know, go get laid, you know whatever, if you
get drunk, you'd a little a little bit of a
little bit of weed, a little bit of whatever you
imbibe in certain things. Okay, so it comes and goes.
(31:14):
But tattoos being done during that adventurous time of your life,
lent young ladies, and then it's something that you stick
with for the rest of your life. It's a lasting image.
It's one thing different than what say, there's memories you know,
in photographs or other things. But I'm talking about like
it's permanent. I mean, sure you could probably do a removal,
(31:34):
but the thing is that is a major step to
go and go that you know, patch on your body
to be forever, if that's what you want. I think
it's pretty significant. And I think that everything being said
here gives me a pause to say, you know what,
we have a conversation we still need to keep keep
(31:54):
going with. But now, all of you that are listening
to this program, if you're catching this and you were
commenting before or listening to the previous episodes that I've
done on tattoos, I hope you will go ahead and
set up to talk more about this on the next
threat on this particular episode, because I want this to
be a conversation. I don't want to create the complete
(32:16):
assumption here that this is where things are and that's
the way it is. I want more and like I said,
I did an episode about this, and you know, I
want to know that there's something more to this and
just see if there's anything comes across that is important
to say. One person, g Hugh Inc. Put a comment
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on my last episode saying, another thing is quote unquote
tattoos or war paint end quote. They tell a story
as just what the Native America is going into battle
or gang tattoos in prisons. So there's a lot still
to be said. There's more to go on here. When
people are asking me what's the psychology evidence, I'm presenting
it to you. We're going to talk about it, and
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there's much more to going to be said. So I
hope that people understand where I come from, where I
want to continue to keep this conversation going. There's much
more to it, and I hope we can continue to
talk about this. It's a very interesting subject. But more importantly,
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I just want you know, for women out there, if
you're gonna make that choice, you know, if there's things
that happened to you that have taken a toll on you.
When you hear other people around you say you're beautiful,
and maybe it's not somebody that you really think you
really care about because you're just gonna say it. Oh so,
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if it's mother or father, if it's a sister, brother, cousins,
you know, aunts and uncles, whatever the family members are
telling you're beautiful, Well, that's one thing, and everybody's going
to just think, well, that's just they're going to just
say that because they love me. That's it underconditionally. But
if there's other men and women out there, for women,
if there are many women out there that just really
think you're beautiful and they see you, and then you
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decide to go ahead and you know, throw a tattoo
on you, it's one thing of it's culture and significant
or if it's some significance of you know, somebody of
a past loved one, whatever it might be, understood, never
gonna go against that part. I'm not gonna say that.
You can't just completely you need to be completely clean.
I don't expect that anymore. I understand that now. But
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then also at the same time, we see a lot
of cultures were it's not even a thing really at all,
because it's just you know, Western society is alloweded. It's
not been anywhere else. It's not everywhere else around the world,
not necessarily. But you know the thing is, you don't
necessarily have to go ahead and go with the tattoos
and leave a permanent mark, because we already know you're
(34:47):
still going to be depraved. And the boxers mean
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