375 - Extreme vs Sustainable Weight Loss

Today I want to talk about extreme fasting and weight loss hacks compared to sensible and lifelong unstable lifestyle changes. And I’ll also touch on the importance of therapy and recovery.

Finally Fasting is the YouTube channel I mentioned.

Episode Transcript

(00:01):
Hello, Welcome into another episode theFasting Guy Podcast. That's me so glad
to have you a long appreciate youbeing here. You know, we've upped
the output a little bit lately.I don't know. I've just been inspired
to talk about things or had thingsI thought I needed to talk about a
couple of studies. I saw progressreports, things like that, and that's

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up the messages. So we've got, you know, interestingly enough. Not
surprisingly, the more episodes I putout, the more often people will send
me private messages. So I repliedto everybody, I appreciate it. It
means a lot to me. Sothanks for being here. I hope that
you're doing well on your journey.I've kind of stepped away from this idea

(00:49):
of accountability. I know back inthe days to say this was, you
know, a good accountability moment forme, and then a lot of you
guys would join me, and itmay be a good accountability moment for you.
Let's touch base and encourage you know, you being here encourages me.
Hopefully something I say encourages you.That that whole thing. I've kind of
stepped away from that. I feellike, you know, I'm just I'm

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just completely one hundred percent backwards anda complete one eighty turnaround on the way
I used to think about weight lossand health and stuff. I think anything
that requires a level of accountability suchthat you have to find people to help
keep you accountable, it's something that'snot sustainable lifelong, and that's by no

(01:38):
means a dig that anybody that's that'sstill doing that. Like I was in
that mindset for years. It wasyou know, I've only just recently come
out of it in the past twoand a half years or so, so
I get it, trust me.But you know, I think, you
know, for all of our sanitiesand for all of our you know,
peace of mind and our ability tomove forward and try to be as normal

(02:01):
of a person as we can interms of our relationship with food and eating
and weighting stuff, that we've gotto move away from those things, and
we need to understand when things likethat are are triggers. And so interestingly
enough, that whole thing is goingto be a little bit of a topic
today as I discuss, you know, extreme measures for weight loss versus sensible

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sustainable measures for weight loss, andthe difference between the two. So let
me, first of all say beforeI start out talking about the subject matter.
You know, I didn't just youknow, I just didn't wake up
one day and have this epiphany.This has been a very long journey,
made up of many years of trialand error, weight loss, weight gain,

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more weight loss, weight gain,even more weight loss, weight gain,
regain. I guess you should say, and you know, I want
to say, and God, it'sso hard, but I think it was
twenty twenty one. It's so sodifficult for me to remember, but I
think it was twenty twenty one,Spring of twenty twenty one or spring of
twenty two. It was one ofthe other where I, you know,

(03:10):
decided that I need to see atherapist. I really need to try to
find a therapist who can help meunderstand what's going on in me, because
normal people don't think about food theway I historically have. And it was
through that process and then making someground in that process, right, like,
I wasn't just seeing a therapist.At some point the tools she was

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given me and the discussions we werehaving led to actual actionable changes to where,
you know, primarily this whole bingething kind of became a thing in
the past. Now I'll still occasionallyhave a binge here or there, but
I think it's a normal binge likea normal person has, Like normal people
who are of normal weight and notobese and things like that, they often

(03:53):
have days where they just binge,right, Like, I think that's normal.
It's the problem is when it's abinge that lasts three days or or
or six days or three weeks andsome stuff like that. And then the
other quintessential sign that it's, youknow, something not good is you know
when it's over, you feel horrible, and there's this regret and remorse and
self loathing, and you know,it's a whole cycle. So you know,

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I had, uh, two saturdaysago, I guess I had a
quote unquote binge. I don't know. I had a cheeseburger and fries that
day, which I rarely have everhave, and then I followed up a
few hours later with ice cream,which I never have. Can't remember.
I think I talked about this inanother episode something Won't beat it to death.
But you know, that was aday where we were like, okay,

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we're over the top today. Butit wasn't a meltdown binge. It
wasn't a psychological break. It wasn'ta we're going off the rails for the
wrong reasons. It didn't last two, three, four, eight, twelve
days. There was no regret after. I just did what normal people do.
Some days, you just eat morestuff, right. It happens occasionally
for whatever reason. So I saidall that to just reiterate it. I

(05:02):
didn't just have an epiphany, andI feel like I had everything figured out.
And I still don't think everything figuredout, but I feel like I'm
the closest I've ever been. Okay, So I noticed I was scrolling through
my YouTube, and you know howyou get these suggestions and stuff, and
so this suggested video popped up,and it was a guy I haven't seen

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in like two three years, andI know maybe some of you guys followed
him. His name is His YouTubechannel was finally fasting. His name is
Jerome, and I followed him backat the same time I was following the
fasting fat man. I don't knowif you followed that guy. He disappeared
too, by the way, hehas not come back, and I fear
the worst for him. I don'tknow, there's just no nothing. It's

(05:46):
just been radio silence. It wasradio silence from both of them. But
I noticed this video was in myfeet him and at first I thought it
was an old video, right,like an old video had popped up in
the algorithm or something. But Iclicked on it and I noticed that it
was, you know, a couplemonths old. I'm like, WHOA.
So I go to his channel andI see that for like the past i
don't know, ten months or something, he's been making videos again. So

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I subscribed again and I started watchinghim. Well, the very first video
back, when you see after histwo year break, his first video back,
he's gained all the way back.He's extremely overweight. Again, this
is a small guy, and it'snot I don't mean that pejorative way,
but he's a small guy, shorterguy, and just he looks enormous,

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and he's talking about how he startedback up on these rolling ninety hour plus
hour fast again. And so whathe does, if you've ever followed him,
he will fast for ninety hours,ninety two hours, ninety five hours,
something in that range, something inthe ninety hour range. Then he
will break his fast and he willjust gorge himself like there's no tomorrow,
for two to five hours and he'lleat anywhere from three to seven thousand calories

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of food, Like I think moreoften on the seven calories that seven thousand
gallery side than the three thousand galleryside. And then as soon as that
three to five hours is up,he goes right back into another ninety hour
fast. And granted, I meanit's effective. He loses a lot of
weight, and he loses it fast. I'm going through his videos. You
know, he's only been back tenmonths. I think like five months in

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he'd already lost all the weight again. He was back down to the same
size, maybe even a lower size. And everybody's on board, and I'm
reading the comments, man, andit's kudos and it's amazing, and this
is the way they go. AndI'm like, does nobody see what's going
on here? And I know thatthey don't because I'm been in that.
I used to be a huge fanof his. I wanted to do what
he was doing, and I wantedto do what the fasting fat man did.

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I thought that was great. I'mlike, we do these crazy rolling
extended fast and stuff. You justdrop a lot of weight and all this
kind of stuff. The problem becomesis that that's not lifelong sustainable, and
this guy is learning that again becausehe's lost all the weight. He wants
a nine in quote unquote maintenance mode, and he's still having to do extreme
fast just to stay in maintenance.He's doing like sixty hour sixty to sixty

(08:05):
five hour fast or something. Youknow, that's that's almost three days.
He's fasting almost three days. Thenhe's breaking his fast, and he's eating
insane amounts of food, like again, three to six thousand calories or something.
And I guess three thousand probably wouldn'tbe that extreme, considering he just
fasted three days, that would averageout to like three till like a thousand

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calories a day. Still very muchon the on the low side for that.
But you know, if you getto the hitting that six seven thousand
gallery mark, if you average thatout over three days, then you're eating
two thousand calories a day on average, but you're piling it all in the
one day, which is a binge. The guy's a binge eater. He's
clearly has a binge eating problem.I've never it's never been more evident to

(08:50):
me than anything ever. And somy I'm watching these videos and watching his
progress and I get to his lastvideo, which is a quote unquote accountability
video, which you know, bringsup the whole issue that I've talked about
at the beginning of this pod.But I mean him and these hoards of
followers, they all got to meethere, they got to be accountable,
they got to hold himself. We'vegot to stick to it and rah rah,

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And it's just unsustainable. This guyis never going to sustain this one.
This guy is going to be thesame weight again. I don't know
how long it'll take. I don'tknow if it'll be a year. I
don't know if it'll be two years. One hundred percent this guy will be
unless he comes up with some answerslike I hope that he does. And
I I tried to leave a verycaring, but but but straightforward message on

(09:35):
one of his videos. I'm sureI'll be blasted for it. I haven't
went and looked at their's replies,but you know, I just try to
be very straightforward with him. We'relike, look, I get it,
I've been here, but you're not. You're hacking the problem that you have.
You have a binge eating problem,and all you've done is hack your
life in a way that you cancontinue to binge eat and so the moment

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you lose the willpower to fast forsixty hours back back, because that's what
he's doing. He's fasting sixty hoursback to back to back, sixty hours,
eat for three or four hours,fast, sixty hours, eat for
three or four hours fast six.There's no way he's going to do that
for life. There's no way he'sgoing to do that for life. He's
not going to do it another year. I mean, it's just unsustainable.

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And so, you know, Itried to let him know I'm not being
a troll and being very genuine,and you really need to address this underlying
issue you have of being a bingeeater, and then you need to come
up with strategies and solutions to onework on the source of the binge eating,
to work on a life long sustainableplan that you can do no matter

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what. Uh. He posted thisgraphic and I'm looking at the graphic now,
But he did. He lost allthe weight in ninety nine days.
He did thirty seven fasts in ninetynine days. He was doing about you
know, he was shooting for ninetyhours and he got down to his goal

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weight which was one hundred and thirtyseven. You know, blow one hundred
and forty. I think it's whathe wanted. Then he goes into a
maintenance for seventeen days. He goesinto a maintenance where he's doing sixty five
hour fast than binge eating, thana sixty five hour fast and binge eating,
and he manages to maintain that weightfor seventeen days, and then he
has a vacation. He goes onvacation for nine days, and he gained

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twenty two pounds in nine days.Twenty two pounds he gained in nine days.
Look, if you need any evidencethat you are, you haven't fixed
anything, you haven't cured anything,you haven't come up with any kind of
lifelong solution. Gaining twenty two poundsin nine days is pretty remarkable. Like
you are binge eating, and I'vebeen there again, I've been there.

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You can go back and listen tosome of my other episodes where I talk
about you know, where I go, I go on these trips and how
I would gain weight on them,and I would actually gain weight weight.
Now I still do gain some weightsometimes when I go on trips, but
here lately it's not been weight weight. It's just been water weight. You
know, when I'm up a lotvertically and I'm not at home in a

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more structured environment where I'm doing properleg elevations and wearing compression and stuff,
you know, my leg retains fluids, and so you know, it takes
me, you know, four orfive days after I get back from a
trip like that to get those fluidsout. But as soon as I do,
my actual weight is back to thesame. And it's been that way
now going for a while. Nowthat's how I knew, And that's,
by the way, that's how Iknew that I had hit on something that

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would work. That's this is it. This is lifelong. This is what
I'm doing is sustainable. If Igo on vacation for ten days and not
gain any weight, I've hit onit. I mean, we have.
We finally cracked the code, likeit's and I didn't feel deprived, and
I don't feel like I had tobe accountable, and I didn't feel like
it was a chore. Like we'vearrived. And so you know, I
looked at this guy's graphic and I'mlike, oh god, he's just got

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such But so now he comes backoff the vacation, and now he has
to go back into these dream ninetyhour fasts and six hour binges again to
get those twenty one pounds back off, with which he does, and then
he goes back into these rolling sixtyfive hour fast so he's sixty five hours
and he's binge eating for five orsix hours. And you know, he's

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been maintaining this weight now for Idon't know, six seven days, I
guess at the time he recorded thisvideo. The reason I'm recording this is
because this is not sustainable. Thisisn't This isn't the path forward. This
isn't the way that you get theweight off and get healthier and stay that
way until you croak. This isn'tthat. This is something different. This

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is a short term hack. Sure, he drop the weight, looks good,
gets to brag about and I'm notsaying he's bragging. I don't want
to sound negative. I support theguy. I really support him. I'm
in his corner. I'm rooting forhim. But you get to people are
just impressed by, oh God,look with these remarkable things he's doing.
Anybody can lose one hundred pounds andthat is there's nothing impressive about that.

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I used to be impressed about it. I think I talked about this in
another episode. I used to gojust scour YouTube for videos of one hundred
pound weight loss. I'd put inone hundred pound weight loss, and you
can just find there's scores of people. It's like buckets and buckets of people
that have lost one hundred pounds.But go try to find out many have
kept it off where you see avideo of them five years later and there's

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still one hundred pounds later. Thoseare a few and far between. They're
like unicorns. You know. That'swhat's impressive. That's what's impressive. Dropping
one hundred pounds is not impressive.If you cut what you're eating in an
extreme enough way, you could loseone hundred pounds pretty fast. And I
find that most humans can buckle downand do something extreme for six months,

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like you can, you really can. You can for sure do it for
three months. So you know,you see these people that lose like thirty
pounds or something forty pounds in threemonths or something four months. You can
buckle down and do extreme stuff forthree or four month months. And then
these people that lose one hundred poundsand six months. You can do it.
You can for sure do it.I'm not saying it doesn't take willpower.

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I'm not saying it doesn't take focusand discipline. It does, but
it's a very short term focus indiplicent discipline. It's not lifelong. It's
not life long sustainable. You literallycan't keep doing that for the rest of
your life. You just literally can'tdo it. And here's the problem.
This is the whole This all culminateswith the whole point of my podcast.

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The whole point of the matter isis that you've never once dealt with maintaining
weight during this period of time.These people that are blasting through fifty pound
weight loss in four months at nopoint where they maintaining, no point that
they know how to maintain, understandhow to maintain, or what it feels
like to maintain. They don't knowanything about that. And so now when

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it comes to maintaining, there isno maintaining. They're just they just go
back to eating what they want likethis, Well, I'm done doing that.
Now I've hit my goal, andso now I just eat every day.
It doesn't work, or you haveto do what this guy's doing.
Which is a slightly less extreme versionof ninety hour fast with six hour binges.
Now he's doing sixty five hour fastwith six hour binges just to maintain

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his weight, just to maintain hisweight. He's having to do that sixty
five hour fast he's doing just tomaintain his weight, not lose weight,
just to maintain his weight. He'shaving to fast sixty five hours. I
mean, that's insane. That's aninsane amount of fasting to just maintain your
weight. Like you got a bingeeating problem. If you're eating so much

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food during that six hours that youfinally eat, you gotta eating problem.
You got major binge eating problems.And so my heart goes out to him.
I long time ago, I don'tknow how far back, but I
was watching this video from doctor JasonJason Fun which if you're in a fasting

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you're probably familiar with where he wastalking about this very thing. How you
know in his practice, you know, they do intermitute fasting. They encourage
extended fasting, so you know,two days maybe something like that, but
they don't they're like, no,no, we don't do five day fast
and stuff, because you aren't learninganything when you're doing that, you aren't
learning how to deal with food.You aren't experiencing dealing with food every day.

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You need to understand and experience eatingfood every day because that's what you
want the rest of your life tobe, right once we get to goal
weight, you want the rest ofyour life to be normal where you wake
up every day and you know,maybe eat lunch or breakfast. Maybe you
don't. I don't. I've nevercared that much about breakfast. I like
breakfast foods, but I don't likethem at breakfast, So you know,

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I prefer to start eating around lunchor later. Like today, I just
ate my first meal, by theway, and it's five forty three pm
as I'm recording this, and Ijust ate my first meal about forty five
minutes ago. It's about five o'clock. I swe wasn't hungry, So some
days it's earlier, though I thinkyesterday my first meal was at two.

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You know, one day in thepast week it was at noon. I
had my first meal. Like itvaries from day to day. You know.
The thing I try to do isthe same tool that my therapist taught
me for dealing with this fee.You have these feelings and you have these
these all these different feelings, andlook, I'm not a therapist, but
I'm I'm just going to share thisone tool. And it's where you know,

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when you have these issues or thesefeelings or stuff, you know you
need to fix them. And it'syou know, I was going through a
lot of grief with my mom wasone, and so I would have these
you know, I well, Ijust I didn't do enough, or I
was just you know, I wasthe worst and I didn't do is this
or that or the other. Andthen what you do is you grab a
piece of paper or a notepad onyour phone, and now you go back

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and you remember, well did Ido this? And how often did I
do that? And you start youstart going through the things that you did
and you're like, well, Imean I did try really hard. And
you in your you're disproving this mammalionpart of your brain, the lizard part
of your brain that for whatever reasondoes what it does. I don't know,
I don't understand all the ins andouts of that, but you're refuting
it, and you're just you're refutingit with your brain. You're using your

(19:15):
brain to refute it, and eventuallyit starts kicking in. It's the same
thing with these binges and stuff.And you know, I've talked about this
a while back. When I firststarted out, I'd have these conversations with
my enter whatever. You know.I labeled it as a smaller version of
me so I could humanize it.But it's it's this lizard brain. It's
this little tiny part of the brain. It's attached to the top of the
brain stem. It's the primitive brainthat we all have, and it just

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does things and thinks things and actsin ways that it often thinks is helping
us when it's not. And Iwould just have a discussion with this at
times back in the early days,and we like, look, I'm you
want me to binge because you thinkI can't handle it, or you think
whatever the stress is is going tohurt me, or it's going to overwhelm
me. And you need to comfortme. You want me to feel protected
and comforted. And sn did andI understand it. But I'm telling you

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I'm fine. I don't need that. I'm perfectly fine. I can prove
I'll prove it to you. Justchill out and just let me prove it
to you. We're going to moveright through this and there everything's gonna be
fine. And I did a lotof that. I rarely, if ever
do it now, but I forlike two half two and a half years.
I guess three years, whatever,it's maybe three years. I did

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that. I did a lot inearly days. But you know, that
same thing applies to anything you knowthat you're going through. You can when
your brain starts telling you something thebest way, or you start feeling a
certain way that starts driving you todo certain things, you just stop and
you just get out a notepad orget open up notepad on your phone,

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and you just start refuting it withfacts. Right, it hasn't been this
long ago. It's been a fewweeks ago. You know, this thought
entered my mind where it's like,you know what, you've only lost seventy
five pounds. You know you stillgot another seventy five to lose. You're
only halfway there, and you've beendoing it two and a half years,

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Like, you know what? Whatis that? Like? That's that's not
even trying And I and I andI instantly stopped, and boy, I
just addressed it right then, andI started going through accomplishments and I was
like, this is what happened before, and this is what happened before,
and this is where I took charge, and I had this plan to do,
and I put this plan in place, and I started on this plan

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and Thanksgiving of twenty twenty twenty twentyone, and I executed the plan the
rest of that year. In twentytwenty two, we executed the plan.
In twenty twenty three, we executedthe plan. And now we're into twenty
twenty four and we've executed the plan, and we're this many months and years
later, and we're still executing theplan and it's going swimmingly. Everything you're

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telling me is wrong, lizard brain. Everything you're saying is wrong. I
can refute it with facts and evidence, and it fixed it and it went
away and I haven't been plagued byit since. But anyway, that was
a you know, there's a wholename for that form of therapy. I
forget what it is, because anyways, it's very effective for me. And
so I want to encourage you toto make changes that are small, effective,

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permanent, sustainable, lifelong, andif it's not that, if it
doesn't fit in that category, don'tdo it. I'm still for extended fasting.
I think extended fasting has huge benefits. You know, I said in
the last episode, I'm thinking aboutdoing another you know, two or three
day or something coming up here ina bit, but mainly for health reasons.

(22:42):
You know, I really want toget some metopogy going. I really
want to ramp up them killer tsales and stuff like. I really want
to experience those benefits, and soI'm thinking about doing it. But it's
it's not going to be an extremehack to try to drop a lot of
wait in three days. It's notgonna be to combat a binge I had,

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it's not gonna be to you know, it's gonna be for any of
those reasons. It's gonna be forsensible reasons, and it's lifelong sustainable because
I'll only do it periodically when Ifeel like I want to do it or
like that it's good for my health, and I make a conscious decision.
Okay, I think this is goodfor my health. I'm gonna try this.
We'll see if we can't do this. Like, it's all reasonable and
rational. It's not insanity. It'snot combating a binge or trying to hit

(23:26):
a new low or any of thatstuff, and you know whatever, by
the way, just for the record, and you know it's I debated even
putting this in the podcast, andso I didn't even document it or put
it down or anything like that.But now let I'm into the podcast.
I guess I'll tack this on theend, you know, I guess just

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for good measure or something. Butwe hit a new low weight today.
We hit a new low weight today. And now I have lost eleven pounds
in the last month, but twentytwo pounds in the last ninety days.
And I think it's very important toput that in perspective. Like I have

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been on a bit of an uptickhere with weight loss, and I don't
know why. I have some theoriesabout it, but look, this is
what happens with your body. Yourbody. If you do a consistent plan
and you're very consistent with it,what will happen is your body will not
want to budget too much on theweight for a while. Because I maintained
for a long time. I wentto a very long period of maintenance,
but I didn't stress about it becauseI felt like I was doing the right

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things, eating the right way,making the right decisions, and so I'm
like, whatever, we'll just maintainfor a while. When my body gets
ready to move in in, it'llmove. And then all of a sudden,
you know, about ninety days agoit started and we started having you
know, reasonable weight loss. Weyou know, we lost like maybe three
three four pounds in a month,and then the next month we lost a

(24:52):
little bit more, and then youknow, this this past month, these
past thirty days has been been prettypretty good. Eleven pounds and half of
that it's coming the last week.So I don't know what's going on.
Like I'm not doing anything different.I'm still eating. You know, I
told you I get in these faceswhere I love just eat the same thing
every day for breakfast, and I'lleat it. And you know, breakfast
for me today was at five o'clockin the afternoon. It's my first meal.

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But you know, I'll just eatthe same thing, and then I'll
like the second meal of the samething too, and I'll just eat it
for weeks, Like I just don'tget tired of it. It's like it's
easy, I don't have to prepareit, and we're gonna do this for
a while. And I haven't changedanything. But suddenly my body's like,
okay, it's time to drop weightagain. We've been maintaining for a while.
I'm comfortable here. Let's you know, your body is smart. Your
body's you can't trick it for longlike you can trick it for a short

(25:41):
period of time, but it comesback with a vengeance. And this is
a risk of what this guy doeswith these crazy fasts and stuff. His
body is pushing back hard against thosefasts because it thinks it's starving. He's
constantly telling his body that he's starving. And anyway, new new record today

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and we hit seventy nine pounds.We're just like a ten pounds short of
seventy nine pounds weight loss. SoI thought I would share that with you
and we'll wrap it up on that. I wish you the very best on
your journey. I would really encourageyou to consider the mindset that I'm that
I've adopted. It's just stress free. I've never stressed about my weight ever.

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I'm never stressed about what I'm eatingever. I don't I'm never racked
in guilt about anything ever. Likeyou know, it's just, you know,
it didn't start this way. Itwas a process to get to hear.
I'm two and a half years intoit now, but you know,
it was a process to start with. I had to keep telling myself to
do these things, and I hadto go, we're going to do this,

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and we want to do it thisway. And you know, I'd
slide a little bit off course fora while, but it would be fine
to be like whatever, it's fine, and you know, but here's where
we need to We just got backin and just very full of grace,
very gentle with ourselves, very fullof grace. Not so full of grace
that we give up the principle ofwhat we're trying to do, but enough
grace that we don't feel guilt aboutit or remorse about it or agony about

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it or anything like that. It'sjust okay. I mean, it's what
humans do. And we get backon. But the longer I'm going,
the easier it's gotten. And youknow, I made reference to the to
the two week vacation that we didnot long ago, and I was at
no point during that vacation was Istressed. I just ate the way I
was supposed to eat every day,and you know, I had the one

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day there was this one day therewas this this place was having a special
that day. It was it wasa seared tunea steaks with some kind of
sauce on it. I don't knowwhat the thing was, with a rice
or something like. I just wouldn'tnormally eat that, but I didn't stress
about I'm like, you know whatI really want that? Like, first
of all, I think tune ispretty good for you, saying of all,

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it's big hunk of tuna steak,and I love it when it's seared
and cooked good like that. Andyou know, I guess we'll eat the
rice now to be fine. Icouldn't tell you the last time I had
right, I didn't stress about it. I'm like, I'm just a normal
human today. I'm I'm craving somethinga little out of the ordinary today,
and I had it. And thenthere was another day I had something that
ever what it was, but shewas no big deal, just I'm just

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okay, this whatever, this isfine. And that's kind of the way
I feel every day. It's like, okay, this is fine. I
mean, I guess I'll share thiswith you. So yesterday was Saturday,
and for some reason I wanted awhopper. I want a whopper, So
I one got a whopper, andI only half. I got the fries,

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only half the fries. But Iate the whopper. By the way,
I ate that yesterday and got onthe scale today and hit a new
low weight. So you know,I got as a little stress about it,
like I'm not gonna be eating whoppersand fries every day. Like I
just, boy, first of all, fries the worst food ever. So
I allow myself to have fries oncein a blue moon. Probably the last
time I had them was I don'tknow, six months six or not six

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months, six weeks ago. MaybeI had fries five weeks ago, I
don't know. I had some friesat some point in time in the last
month to two months. So sometimein the last four to eight weeks I
had some fries. But I justyou know, whatever, it's fine,
it's normal. And I would encourageyou, boy, if you can,
if you're can adopt this mindset andadopt this plan, it'll be so much

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easier on you. And the otherthing I know, I keep saying them
on end it, but the thingI'll say is I think that the stress
of trying to do those things isone of the things that makes it harder
because it's stressful. You know,you get these hormones. Cortisol rises,
and there's this other stress hormone thatyou know, you're just in this constant
state of I'm battling and I'm struggling, and I'm trying to achieve the impossible

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and gung ho, and I needaccountability, and I need a room full
of people to hold my hand andkeep me accountable. And well, how
am I ever going to get throughit? Man? If that's what you're
going through, that's I'm just tellingyou right now not the way to go.
I mean, it's fine, Yeah, for sure, you can drop
some weight in a few weeks ora few months. But if you want
to think about what you're going toweigh five years from now, which is
what I encourage you to do,think about what am I going to weigh

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five years from now? And thenunderstand you got five years to get there,
right, And understand it doesn't matterif you lose fifty pounds in the
next six months. If twelve monthsfrom now you've gained it all back,
what did it matter that you lostfifty pounds. It's irrelevant that you lost
fifty pounds in six months. Itdidn't mean a halo beans. So you

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know, think about, oh that'swhat when I get you five years from
i'd be really nice to be aroundthis weight. And I don't even pick
an exact weight to say, youknow, somewhere in this neighborhood and take
reasonable, simple small steps towards it. Because the I'm halfway through my five
year plan. It's just crazy thatwhere I'm at now, I'm halfway through

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that five year plan, and coincidentally, I'm halfway through my weight loss goal.
We hit seventy five today. Wehad seventy five more to go,
and it's uh, you know,I'm sure it'll get harder to hit those
as we go. The closer Iget to it, the harder to get
It'll be fine. I may comeup short, you know, I may
be still have thirty pounds to gowhen I get to the five year mark.
I may have forty pounds ago.I don't know what all I've left,
but it'll be fine if I've neverbloomed back up and I've just consistently

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eat, have been maintaining or losingone or the other, and we're just
slowly making strides and it's lifelong,sustainable. I'm going to be fine with
it and be like, yeah,this is great. You know, if
the history of my family's in anyoccasion, it'll just be a miracle for
me to even be here at theend of that five years. I don't
know. I mean, I don'tknow why I've lived as long as I
have to be honest with you,so obviously you can know this heartfelt because

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I just rambled and stuff. Butuh, you know, I don't know
you, but I care about you. I promise you that I am you
and you are me. I amyou and you are me. I don't
know what your name is right now. I don't know where you're at listening
to this, but I promise youI know you. I know you.
I know you because you're listening tothis. It's how I know I know

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you. I am you, youare me, and why I should wish
the best in the world for you. I thank you for joining me today,
and thank you for every time you'velistened to an episode. It's meant
the world to me. I waslooking at how many episodes we've recorded the
other day, and it's an insaneamount of episodes like you wouldn't even really

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believe it, if you know,if you didn't realize it was true.
But this episode right here is mythree hundred and seventy fifth episode of this
podcast. This is my three hundreds, where I'm twenty five episodes away from
hitting four hundred episodes, which isinsane. Thank you for being here.
Wish you the very best on yourjourney. Love getting the messages from you,

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and now we'll talk to you thenext one.