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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, Welcome into another episode of the Fasting Guy podcast.
It's me the Fasting Guy, So we're glad to have
you here for another episode today were it's gonna be
doing a check in on the weight the progress, and
then we're gonna be talking about this strange phenomenon where
you're when you're obese and you're losing weight, and it's
I've just started experience in it in the past two weeks,
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three weeks, maybe two to three weeks. It's not weird
to me now because I've experienced it before. But and
I'm not even saying that everybody who's obese experiences it
the same way, but I suspect it's probably maybe it's similar.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
We'll get into it first with the update. So this
update using Happy Scale. I've talked about it before, so
I use a widening scale or with things. I'm not
sure how you pronounce it, but I weigh on it
and then that data gets uploaded to the cloud and
it comes down to an app on my phone, and
then I've sin this other app to that app and anyway,
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so this happy Scale app, it just updates automatically and
it has all kind of stats on it. It'll tell
you what your high weight was in the last week.
You'll tell you what your latest most recent weight was,
It'll tell you what the trend is, it'll tell you
what your low weight was. And then you can set
up milestones like I have my weight loss goals set
up in seventeen milestones, and we've completed eight of the
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seventeen milestones, so we're hitting that halfway point, which, to
be honest, I don't know if that halfway point is
right or not. Is through a number in there, it
tells you you know what your weight, what happened for
you weight in the last seven days, last thirty days,
ninety days in all time. So in the last month
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we lost three and a half pounds, which is a
little slower than we saw the two or three months previous,
cause I mentioned this in.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
The last episode or one of those recepsode's how you know.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Like over the last ninety day period, my weight loss
just accelerated after me being in a stall for quite
a while. So I don't know that's how weight works. Whatever,
three and a half pounds for a month is fine
with me.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
It's almost a pound a week, which is fine. I'm
fine with that's fifteen pounds a year. People like pound
a week, man, that's slow. I mean it's fifty two
pounds a year.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
What do you want?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I mean that's a lot. Like I'd say most people
that are just you know, overweight or something like fifty
pounds probably all they need to lose. So you know,
if you lost a pound a week, you'd lose it
in a year, which is crazy. Anyway, we hit it's
eighty two pounds lost all time, and now this is
the average. So happy Scale does it on a you know,
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it averages your seven day weight trends out so where
your actual weight may be lower than eighty two pounds,
you may have maybe eighty three pounds or something. It's
just constantly averaging it out so it smooths out the
highs and the lows, which which I really like anyway,
So eighty two pounds is the update as far as
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what I've been eating. So I did this thing. If
you've heard a Factor, I did Factor. I don't know
a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I did Factor.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
And the reason I did them then was because they
offered ketogenic meals there. I mean, they offered different meal
plans but one of them was ketogenic. I had noticed
some buzz and reviews about them that apparently their food
was way better now than it was then.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Like it's just really top of the line of food.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
And then I saw, you know, an ad for them,
and it was a huge discount, Like it was fifty
percent off the first week, forty percent off the second week,
thirty percent off the third week, twenty percent off the
fourth week. So it was I could eat it for
a month for really cheap and try it. So I did,
like the six six meals a week plan, so you know,
six dinners, I have what I like my first.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Meal to be nailed down, so you can.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
This isn't a sales pitch, by the way, I don't
have an affiliate code or a link for you or
anything like that. I'm telling you my experience. So I
did the six meals a week plan, and you can,
you know, for whatever, every you have to update what
you want to be delivered the next week by the
by Wednesday. It's every week, the menu changes a little bit,
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some stuff may drop off, some new stuff may come on.
Their most popular stuff may be there every week.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I don't know. I've only been doing it three weeks.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So but you pick your meals or whatever, and then
they show up on Monday. Now you can set when
you're looking at what meals you want to pick, you.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Can tell it here's the kind of meals I want
to see.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
So you can put vegan, vegetarian, gluten free, paleo, whatever.
I select high protein and keto, and so then that's
all the meals it shows me.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It doesn't show me any other.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Meals, so I only see that I you know, I mean,
not an unticket, and it'll show me all the meals,
but I want to filter.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
It out and then I pick what I want.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I'll pick most I pick like mostly keto slash high protein,
so meals that are both right, so they're like low,
low carb and high protein. But sometimes, you know, I'll
get a couple of meals a week that are high protein,
but I'll have more carbs, you know, thirty forty carbs
something like that. Anyway, the foods have been really good.
It's been really really good. So I'm just throwing that
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out there if it's something you want to look at, like,
I don't know, it's it's pretty expensive ones those discounts
wear off, but you know, it's it's not that bad,
I guess anyway. The food's really good. You know, it
doesn't come frozen. It comes essentially refrigerated. They pack it
really nicely in a box with lots of ice and stuff,
but it's not frozen. It's basically refrigerated tempts and you
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put it in the fridge so you don't ever freeze it,
and it lasts the whole week, so you know, it's
way fresher than something that's frozen, like a frozen dinner.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
It's just there's something happens.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
When you freeze a meal, like when you freeze veggies,
you freeze rice, like something happens to it. But since
this is never frozen, it doesn't happen. So they taste
really good and really fresh. I haven't had really one
yet that I didn't love. I'll just quickly say that.
One other thing I really like about them is because
they always have some kind of fish on there, so
maybe salmon or whatever. Like this week, I got a
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couple of meals that had blackened salmon and stuff in it,
and I just don't eat enough fish, so you know,
it's hard to like. I don't cook, and if I
did cook, I wouldn't cook fish, and so fish has
to be cooked really well for me to like it.
Even when it's cooked good, I still don't love it.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I can just get through it.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
So it's been really good for that because the fish
meals have been i'd call them decent, Like I'm not
eating one to go God.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I love that. It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Other people probably would have, but I just it doesn't
matter any what you do to fish. I just don't
like the taste of fish. Like nothing makes the fish
taste great. It's tasted good, and I've eaten and enjoyed
the meal, but you know, I'd rather been eating something else.
But it's been fine. So it's been a good way
to work some salmon and other fish like that. In
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this phenomenon that I wanted to talk about is when
you're obese, like when you have a ton of weight
to lose a ton of weight to lose, you have
to lose so much weight before anybody notices. Now, I
would say, you know, I started this two and a
half years ago, this journey I'm on now this not
stressing about it, being fine with maintaining, not being in
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a rush to lose. Being on a five to five year,
five and a half year, six year plan whatever, making
small changes that are permanent. And so it's this weight
has come really slowly, right, So there's been no dramatic changes,
but you know it's been coming off thirty pounds the
first year, thirty pounds the second year, and you know
we're around twenty pounds more end of this year. But
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just in the last two to three weeks have people
that I'm around all the time started going, wow't a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Of weight, haven't you?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Like, I haven't heard any of that this whole journey.
And so what happens when you're really obese is you
have so much weight to lose.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
That's part of it. And then the other part of
it for me is.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
The buying of the clothes, right, Like, I don't want
to buy a lot of new clothes. And now, thankfully
when I lost weight before and lost one hundred and
twenty five pounds, I didn't buy a ton of new
clothes then because I never throw clothes away. So as
I gained weight, I just have a lot of old
and I just mostly wear jeans all the time anyway,
and jeans are always in style, and so then you
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just have shirt issues really, but so a lot of
that stuff I still had. And so when I started
losing back down, and I also one hundred and twenty five,
and I's kept going back down through jeans that I
had bought on the way up, and you know, then
we gained all the weight back. And now I've just
kind of been doing the same thing again. But even
though I do have clothes going down in size, they
jump a lot, like I don't.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I don't get tighter.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Clothes when it you know, when I lose, you know,
thirty five pounds, where I probably technically could wear a
little bit tighter clothes, I just keep.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Wearing the baggy ones. And then so I've really only
just moved down like a few.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Sizes now, so that and then I've and then a
lot of times I'll just wear the clothes I wore
eighty pounds ago, Like I don't care. I got the
belt on the pants and I'm cinched up, and like
the belt is like eight notches over because cinched up
so much. And then I'm just wearing these old shirts
that I wore eighty pounds ago. And so you like
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you will look smaller because you don't feel the shirt
out but still you got all this big bulky shirt
hanging and stuff and these big pants and like it's
hard to tell.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
And so that is part of it. So it's not
just that it takes that long to get recognized.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
But that is a part of it, though, Like you know,
if you have to lose two hundred pounds when you
lose fifty, and you're not gonna look that much different,
you really aren't. You know, fifty pounds less off two
hundred punds overweight and you lose fifty of it, you're
not gonna look that much different. And you can still
wear the same clothes you were wearing fifty pounds ago
and not look that much different.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
That's just the truth of it.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
But you know, I've been wearing a lot of snugger
clothes lately and that's been a part of it. And
like this just past weekend, so I went and traveled
and I hung out this place where I just know
a lot of people, and you know, I go there
all the time. It's it's not like it's been a
year since I've been there. I go there all the time.
I go there once twice, sometimes three times a month.
They see me all the time. But for some reason
this past weekend I was there like well last Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
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so it was there five days. Just everybody I came
up to it was like, wow, you've lost so much weight?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
How much weight have you lost?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
To like, you know, I've been down this much for
quite a while now, But I really appreciate you. I mean,
I didn't say it then that's what I'm thinking. But
it's an interesting phenomenon. It's an interesting phenomenon. And you know,
I dealt with this week. It feels good. It really
does feel good. Right, It's not just when somebody goes,
hey are you are you losing a little weight or something?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You know, that's that's good.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
But when they go, wow, you know so much weait
how much weight of you lost?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
And then I'd be like, lost a little over.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Eighty pounds, They're like wow, Like to me, eighty pounds
is not that much.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
It isn't.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
That's just again that's a matter of perspective of being
like an ob beast person or.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Somebody's a little overweight.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Like I said earlier, most people they lost fifty pounds,
these you know, these normal overweight people. What i'd call
them normal overweight. It was fifty pounds they pray be
to either goal or darn near. That's a huge for them.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
For me, eighty pounds I still got. You know, I
still got two two and.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
A half three years of weight losing to go before
I ever get to where I need to be. So
it's I mean, it's just a different matter of perspective
or whatever. But I do feel way better and I
get around way better. I mean, you know, I still
have this issue I had. I had very a very
kind person who won't I won't call by name, but
they messaged me a lot of time on Instagram, messaged
me a while back asking I was okay and making
sure I was seeing a doctor and stuff, because I'd
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mentioned in an episode that you know, I had this
issue and I just hadn't got it checked. It's not
because I don't have a doctor or I can't afford
or anything. It's just something that it's either something minor
or it's something really major. And if it's something minor
that's just been nagging at me for a long time,
there's not a ton that can be done about it.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
And if it's something.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Really major, and I mean the bad one, the sea one,
or something like that. I don't want to know, and
I don't want to get into that. That's a conversation
for another podcast maybe or something.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
But you know, I'm not gonna, you know, we're.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Ever to be diagnosed with the dreaded sea word. I'm
not doing the chemo or no surgeries or nothing like that.
Like I've been through that with my grandmother. I've been
through that with my mom. I see where that road leads.
You know, maybe if it were like a pro which
this wouldn't be because where it's at, but you know,
may if it were like a prostate thing or something,
I might treat those because depending on which you know,
how aggressive that is or something you can be highly
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successful for with that. There's a couple of other ones
maybe you can be reason like thyroid, and I do
have thyroid issues and have the nodules on my thyroid.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I've had them for years and.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
You know, I get those scanned every so often to
make sure that they're not growing or whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
But you know, I know thyroid can be a highly
successful one a lot of the times.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
So there are some that maybe I'd consider, But for
the most part, these ones where you know they're going
to blast you with chemo for five years and you'll
be dead and it doesn't matter, like it buys you
a few more years maybe, but the few years it
buys you are mostly miserable. Like I saw that when
my grandma and saw that one my mom, and it's
just not for me. I'm not a fighter. And then
I'm not surrounded by family, Like I don't have a
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big family surrounding me to take care of me. And
I'll have a wife and I'll have kids. You know,
I got some extended family who do love me dearly,
by the way, and if I ask them, they would
try to do whatever they could. But I would just
never ask them to do that. I never put them
in that position. I don't like you put people in
that position that you care about, Like they got their
own lives and their own problems and you know, so
I just you know, I wouldn't have the support around me.
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I wouldn't have the you know, and plus I just
don't have the wheel to go through that, Like I
don't desire any of that. Like if you know, if
ever God forbid, get that diagnosis, which you know likely will,
like you're just mainly in this country.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
If you don't have some kind of accident, you're just
gonna die from a heart attack or cancer. That's it.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
That's the two things that mainly get you. So it's
one or the other, you know, it's what happens. But
you know, God forbid I get that diagnosis. Like you know,
I just you know, whatever time I got, I just
want to try to get out of there and live it,
and you know, you know, maybe find some pain meds
or something. Once the worse the pain gets, still try
to get out there and just live until I can't
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no more, and then let's just go let's call in hospice,
and then let's move on to the next stage. Well,
there's not what I'm ended this episode of the podcast
to be. But you know, I've been there, I've been
through it. I watched my you know, they starved and
thirsted my grandmother literally to death. Because we're gonna fed
up country where doctor assisted you know, leaving the planet
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isn't legal. I mean it's legal in a few places apparently.
I just researched that recently, but for the most part, no,
And so the best they can do is go, well,
something else we can do, and you know, you know,
we we pull them off the fluids and stuff, and
you know, they pulled I remember when they pulled my
grandmother off.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
You know, she couldn't need anymore. She was out of it, right, She's.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Completely out of it, Like she'd roused around every now
and then and like murmur or something, but be.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Right back out.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Hardest decision my mom's ever had to make. Like I
remember her being racked with it, like she was just like, oh,
you know, and she said, no, leave her on the
I remember, you know, my mom's like, well, no, we
don't leave her on the fluids.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I don't want her a thirst to death.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
And you know, then there's all this stuff builds up
in the lungs and the doctor goes, look, she's not
gonna make it, and you feel like you're helping her
by giving her the fluids, but the fluids just caused
more build up in the lungs.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Which caused her to be more uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And that's where all this rattling and stuff is hacking
and stuff that she can't control, and she's out of it.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
It's coming from So my mom made.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
A terrible decision, you know, not it was I think
it was the right decision, but it's just a hard
decision to make. And then we sat there and you know,
I bet I remember reading books and stuff how the
body can only live three days without water, You can
only go three days without water. Well, let's let me
tell you that's bs. If you're in a hospital bed,
in a controlled environment, you can live a long time
with no water or food. Because my grandma went, like
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I want to see it was thirteen or fourteen days.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
It was a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
And then you know, I had to take that same
journey with my mom, and I remember the night that
I walked down that hall, and you know, my mom
hadn't come back conscious now, and you know, it gotten
where she'd come around a little bit, kind of halfway
or something, but then mostly just be out of it.
And then she had what to call a rally. And
she woke up that morning and she was bright eyed.
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She's like, I feel pretty good. I want breakfast around me,
bring me breakfast, And she goes, I know a lot
of people wanting to visit. I feel great today. I
haven't come visit. So I started calling me and was, hey,
Mom's doing something. But you know, the rally lasted literally
like four hours, and then she was back out of
it and then she was never conscious again. So, you know,
after that happened, I waited like a day or day
and a half till I was pretty sure she.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Was just out of it.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
And then I remember that I walked down that hall
and I asked for the main nurse and I'm like, look,
it's okay, it's time, you can do it now. Pull
her off the water and or pulled her off the fluids, right,
And so they came in and they unhooked the ivy
and you know, and then I went through it. I
went through you know, my mom really went through her mom,
but I kind of went through it with her because
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I love my grandma to death, right, and now here
I am going through with my mom, and.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
You know, she's laid there and she starved and thirsted
to death. That's what happened. She starved and thirsted to death,
and my mom lived. I don't know, it was eight
days or something, eight days, no.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Food, no water, just wasting away. She was already skinning bones.
She was already skinning bones when it started. And it's
just a horrible way to go. It's a horrible way
to go when I was in there, and you know,
my mom was really my last close family, but you know,
I had extended family. My two most favorite aunts in
the world were there in the room with me when
she passed, and they're just amazing people. And now one
of those aunts has passed from COVID since then, but
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the other one is still around and I cherish her
as much as you can possibly cherish another human.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
And but don't.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I don't want a part of that. And it's not
what this episode was about. And I don't know how
he went there. But anyway, my point is for those
of you that are concerned that I either for for
what reason, was seeing a doctor or couldn't rest a shirt.
I do see my doctor frequently. He's a great doctor.
He's a concerage doctor. And call him twenty four to seven.
I have a cell phone number. I can see him
on the weekend if I need to. You know, he'll
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do visits with me over the phone if I need to. Like,
he's just it's just great, Like I have access. That's
not a problem. It's just it's just one of those
sayings that was putting off. But I think we're fixing
to do it. I think I'm going to get a
think I've decided I'm gonna get get an MRI soon
and take a look at it and see, you know,
see what it looks like. I've just been putting it
off forever because we're at it. It's it's been so
long and so chronic, and it's just nagging that it's
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either something that doesn't matter for the last that long.
It's just age age or something with me being obese
in age or something, or it's something really bad and
it was really bad.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I don't want to know.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
And if it's the minor thing, it's really none we
can do to fix it. So it's I've just been
in a place for eh. So I really want to know,
because to me, that's ruined your life. If you were
to get the C diagnosis and you know you're not
gonna treat it and now you know you're on the timeline.
To me, I think, I don't know if it makes
your life better or worse. Maybe it makes it better
because now you really like, Okay, we've got to pump a.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Lot of living into the next little while.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
But then again, it's also hanging over your head whereas
if you don't find out until, like I read a
story not too long ago, this woman they diagnosed her
with stage four lung cancer. She had no idea, She
had no idea, she was even sick. Now, I don't
know how you can have stage four lung cancer. Not no,
but I've read many stories about it. Apparently this happens
from time to time. But she knew nothing about it.
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And then finally she started coughing and wheezing, and then
she got shorter breaths. She went and saw the doctor
and they did a scan and oh, we got to
go do this, and they test her like, oh, you
got stage four lung cancer.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
It's fantastasized to all.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
These other organs and you've got, like, you know, a
month to live. And she didn't make it a month.
Two weeks later she was gone to me, that's the
way to go. Don't know nothing about it, don't be
told nothing about it, lived up just the same life
you've been living, and then bam, you find out in
two weeks later it's over. Unlike the long drawn out
process that my grandmother went through. What was months and months,
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and my mom was just living just horrible miserable life
for months and months and months. You know, didn't mean
this to be what the episodes about. All apologies with that,
I mean that's what I do, is ramble, and if
you're a subscriber, you.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Know, and my deepest apologies, but thank you so much
for being here.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I over that your journey on your health and wellness
is progressing well, and I enjoy our time here together
and we will look forward to
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Talking to you in the next one