381 - 3 Years Ago Today

Fasting and weight loss update. Plus a I share a piece of audio I recorded 3 years ago when I was at my lowest point emotionally.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello there, Welcome into an episode of The Fasting Guy podcast.
That's me. I'm the Fasting Guy, so glad to have
you in here. Today's update, I guess we'll do a
progress update, but that's not really the main reason I'm
doing this episode. I'm doing this episode because of a
memory from three years ago that I'm I can't believe
I'm gonna share it with you, but I am. I guess.

(00:25):
I don't know. If I have one fault in life,
it's that I'm way too open on my podcast. I
don't know I actually had. I've actually had several messages
over the here. People will send me private messages and go.
You know, you exposed way more of yourself to strangers

(00:48):
on a podcast than I ever would, and I both
appreciate it. But I would could never do anything like that.
So I don't know why. Like you know, most people
listening probably don't know much about me, but I come
from a career in the public eye, and you know

(01:11):
my career. Early on in my career, one of the
things that mentors and consultants and stuff as a part
of that career told me was the more genuine and
honest you are, the more successful you'll be in this
career because an audience can they can they can sense
what's real, what's real, what's fake. So I adopted that

(01:35):
early on. And you know, you can't be you know,
in that business. I was, you can't be one hundred
percent open and exposed because you just it's just not
the business for that. But I don't know if that's
part of it. And also I guess I just feel
it kind of feels therapeutic to me at times. I

(01:55):
guess to have an avenue where I can do a
couple of things. One I'm not anonymous, but it kind
of feels anonymous, I guess. You know, as I said,
for my career, I'm used to sitting and speaking into
a microphone and being genuine like that was my career
for many years, was sitting and speaking into a microphone
and being pretty genuine. As I said, you can't be

(02:19):
one hundred percent just natural and that kind of a
career because you know, you have a job to entertainment
aspect to it. There's limitations based on you by the
company you work for and the demographic you're speaking to.
But I was as genuine as as a person good
to be an eye and I tried to be that always,
so I don't know, maybe all those things contribute to it.

(02:39):
And then I think, lastly, a part of it is
is I genuinely do want to help people and be
a sounding board for people, or a resource for people,
or a or a or just a place where somebody
can go and say, oh, yeah, I identify with that somebody.
Finally I heard somebody say something that I've experienced or

(03:03):
I feel or I go through and I don't today
may be a willin So what I'm going to be
sharing with you is an audio clip from three years ago.
So every year for the past three years, well the
first year obviously I didn't get a notification because that
was the very first day I set it up. But
the following year, the following year, you know, to this

(03:26):
year is recapping three years. I get a notification every
year that it's another year is gone by on my
phone and I go back and listen to this piece
of audio that I recorded on this date three years ago.
It was October twenty third. Well, it show me the
time that I recorded it. No, it doesn't show me

(03:50):
what time of day I recorded it. But I'm going
to give you a little bit of setup on it.
So it's gonna mention a place that I went. This
place is about it's about hour and a half from

(04:12):
my house. There's a little bitty tiny state park there
that I at this time. This is before I sold
my RV. I would go stay in my RV, which
was a Class B RV. I would go stay in
my RV down there, and then I would go to
this casino, so it was right near a casino, and

(04:32):
I would go to this casino or whatever, play poker,
you know, gamble this type stuff. And I would spend
a day or two or three days or four days
there or whatever. So the piece of audio that I'm
going to play for you today is immediately after me
returning from being down there a few days. I had

(04:52):
gotten stuff out of my ARV that I needed to
bring inside. So this was clothes, the toltry bag, you know,
some other things that I needed to bring in. And
I came in and unpacked stuff or put you know,
put you know, tried to get stuff put away, and

(05:13):
I was just in I was just I was in
bad shape. I was in miserable shape. And it was
at that moment I was in an incredible pain. My
my leg was hurting, my back was hurting, my edema
and my leg was just massive. I was so large

(05:33):
at that time that I was experiencing issues with being
that large. So if I could recap the RV that
I had, so I had originally back in twenty seventeen,
I bought an RV and it was used. But it
was a great deal on it. God, it was such
a good deal on this RV. But I could not

(05:54):
use the bathroom and it was it was a Class
B RV. But I was, I was. I was pretty
big at that time. Actually, though interestingly enough, I was
smaller than than I am now. Like I had lost
you know, this was shortly after my mother had passed
and I had lost one hundred and twenty five pounds,
which which was smaller than I am right now. But

(06:14):
even still then, this this bathroom and this tiny class BRV,
I just couldn't use it. It was it was a
road track if you're familiar with those, and they have
a like a bathroom midway down the van and it's
kind of a triangle shaped thing, and you just you
have to be very small, like I mean, like I
could do number one in it as a guy, but like,

(06:37):
I couldn't sit in there and be comfortable and do
number two. And then it's one of those wet showers.
So it's like the you know, if you're familiar with RVs,
you have these wet baths. So it's the little toilet
in there and the little whatever in there, and then
you also just you take your little shower in there too,
so where everything gets wet, it's called a wet wet bath.
If you're familiar with RV's class, bes especially don't know

(06:59):
what I'm talking about, and if you're not, you won't.
That's neither here or there. Anyways, I was on a
trip to South Florida and I got a notification on
my phone somehow, or I saw an ad or something
that this place near where I was at in South
Florida was having this RV cell and so I was like, oh,
let's good, look at the RV's over there. And I
get there and I find this class BRV that's one

(07:19):
of Baygo. You know, it's essentially the same size as
this road track I'm driving, but the entire back of
the RV was set aside for the bathroom. And I
got in it and it felt so roomy. Now, don't
get it twisted. It's still not roomy. It's a class BRV.
You got a little bathroom in a van, but it
felt twice as big as the one in the little
RV I had, And so I bought it right on
the spot. I traded the one I had on and

(07:40):
I bought it right on the spot. So for clarification,
now fast forward to three years ago, twenty twenty one.
When I bought that RV, both of them, you know,
I had lost around one hundred and twenty five pounds.
Now fast forward three years ago. I gave all that
weight back, plus I've also gained like another maybe four

(08:04):
pounds more than I was when I began my weight
loss journey. So I mean, if you want a number,
I'll give it to you. Sure, why not? Like I said,
I expose everything on here. But i'd hit four hundred
and fourteen pounds, four hundred and fourteen pounds, so I

(08:25):
had gone I would say six months before this piece
of audio was recorded, I had gone to Jacksonville on
a vacation and I didn't take my RV. I went
and stayed in an airbnb, and I remember I go
to that Airbnb, and it was a really old house.
It was nice and it was well maintained, but it

(08:46):
had the super old toilet, super old sink in at
least really old sink, and really old bathtub in it.
Like it's had a lot of It's a really old house.
It was a nice house in it. I liked it.
But the toilet was so short and I was so
large at that time that I physically could not get

(09:07):
off the toilet. And I remember my first day there,
I had to go and I got on the toilet
and the toilet was so short and I was so
big and there was nothing for me to push off,
up off of, and I couldn't get off the toilet.
I've got I'm just I'm sharing way too much stuff,

(09:30):
you know. I finally managed. I'm not only what details,
but I finally managed to get up. And I was
there a month. I was staying in the AIRBNBA month
and I remember texting my best friend who lives in California,
and it's a woman, my best friend the woman, and
I texted her and I'm like, I'm just so I'm

(09:52):
so mentally devastated right now, I'm so devastated, Like I
can't even believe that this is where I'm at in life,
and I'm over here for a month, and I've paid
for this, and I'm miserable, and now I have to
leave my home to go use the I have to
leave the airbnb that I'm staying in to go find
a place that has a toilet that's taller than this

(10:13):
one that I can get up and down off of,
like a You know, I'm gonna have to start going
to like McDonald's and Wendy's and Burkings and stuff and
using their handicap toilet because I know I can get
up and down off of us. It was so humiliating.
Beyond that the couch. I also couldn't get off the
couch in the living room. It was also short, and
so I remember it was a couch that had three cushions,

(10:35):
and the only way I was able to use it
was I took the middle cushion and the left cushion
and stacked them on top of the right cushion, which
which made it really tall, and I could sit on
top of all three cushions and it would make me
tall enough off the ground that my knees were at
just slightly you know, more than a than what I

(10:56):
gets a forty five degree angle, so it allowed me
to be able to push up and get off that couch. Anyways,
I remember that time I was there. I went on
this fast and I texted my friend, I'm like, I
just got I just got a fast. I got a fast.
I got to see if I can drop. You know,
when you've not been doing At that time, I was
not doing well, like I wouldn't eat and right and

(11:17):
doing anything right, like I was just off the rails.
And when you're off the rails, you're eating tons of carbs.
You're eating horrible. If you can get into a fast,
you know you can drop. Especially when you're as big
as I was, you can drop like ten pounds of
water weight just a few days. And which is which
is enormous. I remember the statistic from I don't know

(11:37):
ten years ago or something. I found it somewhere. But
for every pounds you lose, you take four pounds per
square inch of pressure off of your knees. For every
one pounds you lose, you take four pounds per square
inch of pressure off of your knees. That's an enormous change.
So when you lose ten pounds. That's forty pounds of
pressure per square inch off your knees, which is pretty

(11:58):
astounding if you think about it. So I texted my
best friend and I was so depressed, and I was
just in such a bad place. And you know, a
lot of great things came from that. A lot of
great things came from that. Was that was one of
the first seminal moments of my life. After my mother
passed and I'd lost all the weight and I gained
it all black plays some that moment in time was

(12:20):
a seminal moment in my life. But so I went
into this fast and I fasted. I want to say
I fasted for like three or four days, and then
after those three or four days, I went strict, you know,
almost zero carb keto, like not not not one hundred
carb keto or fifty card keto or twenty carb keto

(12:41):
is like, you know, strict near zero carb keto. And
sure enough, about eight nine days into that trip, I
got to the point I could get up and down
off the toilet, which seems like a small accomplishment but
at the time felt like the biggest commiser in the world.
And I remember during that month there I remember very

(13:07):
distinctly another thing that happened. I know, I'm getting into
a lot of things here. I'm just exposing a lot
of stuff that happened this year. That year. I didn't
expect all this to come out. I was just going
to share this piece of audio with you. But now this, this,
this is There was two seminal moments in that year,
and so I just remember this soul. So I'm just
gonna share them both with you. I apologize for just

(13:27):
being so disjointed. But so I was coming home from
this again. I was over there. I was at a
casino gambling, playing poker, but I had a bad, bad
run of poker and got in lucky in a few hands,
and I left and I was just frustrated. And I
was driving home and this this thing, this thing that's

(13:51):
driven me my whole life, started driving me. It just
and it was as if something else took over my body,
took control and drove me into a convenient store parking
lot where I went in and bought the biggest bag
of Little Debbie snack cakes and chocolate milk, and went

(14:13):
back to my airbnb. And that night and all day
the next day, I just laid in bed and ate
little Debbie snack cakes and just binged and binged and bingged. Well,
once that was over, I googled something about binge eating
and I found this woman I had a podcast. I
found another woman that had read a book, and I started.

(14:33):
That was the first time that really started to understand
the concept of your lizard brain as it's called, or
there's other names for it, but it's you know, the
very first tiny part of your brain that just does
things on autopilot that it hurts you a lot of
times by trying to protect you, but generally it goes

(14:54):
off the rails and tries to protect you from early
childhood trauma and the lingering effects of that last lifetime.
And that was my first time learning any of that stuff. Anyway,
as a result of that, you know, fast forward, I
actually hired a therapist and I started doing a thing
with a therapist twice a week. And I did that
for a while, and then we moved once a week,

(15:14):
and we moved once every two weeks. Then we moved
once a month. But you know, you know, and I've
talked about that in previous podcasts, so I won't go
over all that, but it was life changing, and it's
for sure has changed my life. But so all this
happened in the same year anyway. That's not that was
not what I was really going to talk about, but
you know, it occurred to me that happened in the
same year anyway. So we fast forward now to this

(15:36):
October twenty third of that year, when I get back
from this trip and I'm getting out of the RV
and I come in and I'm just in just so
I anyways, so you know, once I got where I
remember very clearly, I just I came straight to the
bedroom and I sat down on the edge of my
bed because I was just so and so much pain
and so exhausted and just miserable is everything, and I

(15:59):
just wanted to lay down. I just wanted to lay
down and get relief everything that was going on. And
so I sit on the edge of the bed and
I said, I'm going to record. I'm going to record
exactly how I feel right now and at any point
in time for the rest of my life when I
feel like I am not working towards the goal of

(16:21):
becoming healthier and thinner and slimmer and better physically this
week than I was last week. At any point in
time I feel that's that I'm off the rails or
I'm losing focus on that goal, I will have this
piece of audio that will bring me back to this
moment in time and remind me of why I simply
cannot let that happen. And so what I'm about to

(16:45):
play for you is the piece of audio that I
recorded then. And it's very raw. It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing
to know that this is where I was at that time.
It's embarrassing to know that I'd let myself go that far,
seem to know the things that I talk about that
I was struggling with with that any that no human
should struggle with. No, no, no, So here it is.

(17:10):
Here's that piece of audio, and then I'll come back
and talk a little bit after it. Hey man, just
remember this.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Getting home from Abro your right legs swelled twice as
as it should be, your back killing you. You're completely
out of breath from just taking socks the excruciating ride
home in your back, uh, not being able to use

(17:41):
your RV right because your two goddamn big tost shit
on fucking too big to shit on all toilet. You're
taking fucking emodium to keep you from shitting because in
places that you don't control one hundred percent, you're just
not sure you'll be able to wipe your as.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
It's time to change, you can do it. You've done
extended fasting many times. You just got to get through
the first three to four days. Just do it, man.
So there you have it. That was raw. That's as
raw moment as you'll ever get. That was exactly three
years ago today that happened. And one month later from

(18:30):
that was when I had my physical, annual physical with
my doctor. It's when I got the weight and realized
I was four fourteen. Like I didn't know what I was.
I just knew I was huge. I didn't actually know
my weight till a month after that recording was made.
When I had my annual physical, I was four fourteen
and I left my doctor's annual physical and I came

(18:51):
up with this plan. And it's the plan you've heard
me talk about many times over the past three years.
It's this plan of lifelong changes, small changes, sustainable changes,
not not doing anything that I'm not willing to do
for the rest of my life, being happy during times
where I maintain and not feeling like that's a failure.

(19:14):
You know. I continued on for like another probably eight
nine months after this, I was still working with that therapist.
I continued to do that. My binge, understanding of my binge,
and understanding my childhood drama and all that stuff I
got just got better and better. Grass Roads, you don't
own it, tools to cope with it and how to
work through it, and so but that you know that

(19:38):
that thing in Jacksonville in the airbnb was kind of
the first moment. But you know, if you think about it,
I went from I think that was in like a
April or May. I still went from April to May,
and here I was in October, still in the shape.
So while it did trigger something, you know, it didn't.
It didn't. It didn't really set things in motion. And
then if you think about it, this even this recording here,

(20:00):
which was like almost exactly a month before my annual physical,
which was like towards the end of November, so it's
probably probably like five weeks before that when this recording
that you just heard was made. Some things really didn't
immediately change here either. And when I recorded this, my
plan was I needed to do an extended fast with
my plan. And you heard me say that the recording,

(20:20):
like you just got to you just need to go on,
because that's where my head was out of that time.
So like, I just need an extend I just need
to do a fourteen or a twenty one day or
twenty eight day or thirty day or sixty I just
need to do some crazy fast and I could get
this weight off because I'm in I'm you know, I'm
in bad shape. I need to do I need to
take drastic measures. And it's interesting that even though I

(20:40):
do credit at the time, I recorded this as as
being like a launching point to get me to where
I am today. It's also interesting that I completely abandoned
that philosophy, you know. You know, at the time I
recorded that, I was recording it because I knew I
would need a lot of strength and a lot of
reasoning every day to keep me going through some kind
of crazy extended fast so that I could drop twenty

(21:02):
pounds quickly or thirty pounds quickly and hopefully get back mobile.
And again it's where my head was at. Obviously we
didn't do that, you know. And then I had the
annual physical and then I came over with as plan
and then we started it and I'll recap it in
cases is the first time you've ever listened to an episode.
But my plan was that I'm on a basically a
five year plan, which is, you know, an arbitrary number.

(21:24):
If it's six years, I'm fine with it. For four years,
I've been fine with it. It's seven years, I'm fine
with it as long as we're moving towards our goal.
The only thing is is that I'm not willing to
do anything right now today, tomorrow, next week, next a month,
next year that I'm not willing to do every day
of every month of every year for the rest of
my life. I'm not doing any changes that I'm not
willing to always do. That's the only way this could

(21:46):
be permanent. And then the other thing is we don't
we're not we're not. We're you know that way, we
don't have to feel rushed about speed, like I don't
got to hit some goal by the next thirty days
or the goal. You know, it's none of that. And
so I figured it up. I'm like, you know, I
probably would be you know, probably being the best helped
I've been in since I was twenty five. If I

(22:07):
could lose one hundred and fifty pounds, and I don't
know if that's where I need to wind up, but
I need to come up with some kind of numbers,
some kind of goal. You know. It's an arbitrary goal.
It's not a written in stone goal. But I just
threw a number out there, like one hundred fifty pounds,
and I'm like, okay, five years, we lose thirty thirty five,
thirty thirty five pounds a year over the next five years,
we'll get there. And so that was kind of it.
I'm like, whatever steps I take, whatever changes I make,

(22:32):
as long as we're getting somewhere around thirty pounds a year,
I'm good with that. I'm good with that. And if
you think about it, that's I think it's like two
and a quarter pounds a month or something. It's not
it's not much two pounds a month to be twenty
four pounds a year and they'd leave you six. So

(22:52):
two and a half pounds a month, I guess. So,
I mean, that's really not that much. Two and a
half pounds a month, you know, it's like a pound
and a quarter a week or something. Three quarters a
pound a week, I don't know. And so we started it.
And since that time, I've gone through some pretty long

(23:14):
periods of maintenance. Like I know, I had a several
several month period of just maintaining. I didn't realse anything,
and then I've had moments where the weight loss will
just come and just you know, I've just came through
one of those. I just if you just go back
just a few episodes. We went through like a three
month period where we just woofed off like twenty five
pounds or something. That was crazy. But before that I
had just been maintaining or fluctuating a little up, little down,

(23:37):
just kind of in forever. So I just stayed, stayed
the course. And you know, I allow myself I have
a lot of grace. I binge, but it's not like
the binges that before. It's like a one meal binge
or it's like a one dessert. I'll give your right example.
This morning, actually was playing poker this morning. It's come

(23:58):
to talk about it, and this guy is there who
loves to bake. He's a regular there at the poker room,
and he's he's a he's a guy you wouldn't think
he'd love to bake. He's a he's kind of a
tough looking guy. He's got a lot of tattoos all over,
a man. He loves to bake. And uh, we were
sitting there and he goes, hey, man, yeah, you have
you tried any of my new maple maple sugar cookies

(24:20):
or something maple sugar cook some So he leaves and
he goes to his car and he brings a bake.
He brings me a maple sugar cookie. Now, I don't
need to be eating a maple sugar cookie. The amount
of carbs and sugar and stuff that's in that is unreal.
This guy is bringing me a homemade he's so proud
of it. They're so delicious. He's telling me how amazing

(24:41):
they are, and he wants me to try them. And
you know, not only for sure, I'm sure it tastes good.
I like it, but also like how rude would it
be to turn him down? And the one thing about
my life is this change in my life is if
I can't live like a normal person, why I live now?
I understand, Yah, I got weight issues, I got problems,
But normal people who are normal weights have cookies from

(25:02):
times time, like it's insane to go I can just
never have a cookie. And so, you know what's been
beautiful over the past three years is I've gotten this
binging or this needing this or needing this to where
it's just not an issue anymore because I know that
I can have it whenever I can, whenever I want it.
I have full permission ded anything. It's fine, we'll eat
it whatever. It's just like, we don't eat it every

(25:24):
day all the time. And so what what over the
past three years, what that's allowed me to do is
recognize these moments when it is okay, when it does
make sense. I guess what It's allowed me to recognize
these moments where it's what a normal person would do,
where it's what a normal, healthy fit person would do.
Like a normal healthy fit person isn't eating fresh baked,

(25:44):
homemade maple sugar cookies every freaking day. They just aren't.
But if their friend or somebody new came up and said, oh,
I've made these and they are awesome, I want to
hear have one. Of course you're gonna eat it. And
then the other thing, you know from the therapy and stuff,

(26:05):
is the binging. One of the biggest things with binging. God,
this episode has turned into a lot of things that
didn't turn it to be. But it's therapeutic for me,
and maybe you can relate to it, and maybe something
I say i'll help you. But you know, one of
the things that I've come to understand that I've worked
through is the binging comes not from you eating the

(26:29):
food that's quote unquote bad. That's not what causes the binging.
It's the guilt that happens after the feeling of a failure,
that happens after of such a failure. I'm such a loser.
I shouldn't have had that cookie. God, I don't need to
have that cookie. I'm trying to eat low moderate carb.
I'm trying to get high protein. We don't need to
beat That's what would have happened in the old days,

(26:50):
and it would have spiraled into screw it. I'm gonna
go get little debbies, and then after the little debbies,
I'd be I'm just the worst person ever to be
hating myself. This internal monologue would be happening, and then
I'd gone to like a week long splurge of McDonald's
and Burger King and Wendy's and Little Debies, and so
that's been the difference. It's like, no, I didn't fail.

(27:14):
I didn't do anything wrong. A friend of mine who
loves to bake and as these cookies he thought were amazing,
he wanted to share one with me, and I had
it like a normal person. I didn't fail in any
kind of a way. There was no failure, not a loser.
I'm just normal. And of course I came back home
from down there this afternoon and I had a lovely

(27:37):
low carb dinner and then you know, a couple hours ago,
I had a low carb snack, high proting, low carb
stack and everything is fine. Everything is fine. I mean,
these are things that I've worked through and learned over
the past three years. It's just been a work in progress.
So anyway, I told you I would give you a
progress update. So I haven't really weighed this week, but

(28:03):
Friday went out weigh As I'm recording this, what is
this Wednesday? I think it was Friday. I weighed and
we were down ninety ninety six ninety four. We're down
ninety four pounds. Ninety four pounds in two years, and

(28:24):
we'll call it almost eleven months or like six weeks
of weighing eleven months, So two years and we'll call
it eleven months. We're at ninety four pounds, which is
right on target for my long term goals of thirty
pounds a year. So I don't have problems getting up
and down off the toilet. I I'm I'm just it's

(28:54):
not just the weight, Like I'm not just in a
different place as far as the weight than I was
three years ago when I'm I'm so far removed from
all that in many many ways. The way my brain works,
the way I process this concept of weight loss and
getting healthy, the way I process binge eating, the way
I've dealt with trauma, the tools that I've accumulated through

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therapy to help me go back and address this trauma.
And like, I'm just, I don't know if you're like
me or not, but one of the hardest things in
the world is to is to acknowledge that you're proud

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of yourself because it seems arrogant or cocky or self serving.
But if I may in the most with the most
humility possible, Sorry, if I if I may with the

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most humility possible, I'm so incredibly proud of these last
three years of my life, it feels like I've stepped
up to another plane of existence. Like I feel like
I have elevated myself to a higher plane. It's not

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the highest plane, and it's certainly not the plane that
I hope to wind up at, but I feel like
I've elevated in the emotional and the childhood trauma and
the triggers, and the understanding who I am, and the
understanding what it's like to I don't know that it's

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just kind of lived normal, like I feel like my
I don't know how to describe it. I feel like
the work I've done mentally has allowed me to live
as near like a normal person as I ever have.
And by normal, I mean the way I relate to
myself and triggers and trauma and depression and grief and

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anxiety and stress and all these things, and then how
food relates to them. I feel like I'm at a
I'm up, I'm fun of higher plane where all that's concerned.
And I see I've hit the thirty minute mark, so

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I need to stop. So by the time I edit
that audio into this, it'd be thirty one minutes. But anyways,
like this was a hotchpodge of stuff. I don't know
what to say. Guys, I just saw this audio and
it was an anniversary and I wanted to share. And
I appreciate you being here. I hope that your journey's

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going well. And as always, it's my deepest wishes. That's
just something I say reson you, and you don't feel
so alone, or you don't feel like a failure, you
don't feel like a loser, or you don't feel like
you can't achieve, or you don't feel like you don't
have a path to the place you want to go
that you can look at me and go, oh yeah.

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I mean, if this guy who's been at this since
what April of twenty thirteen or it's eleven years, if
this guy who's been at it eleven years can finally
reach this place that he's arrived at, doesn't matter where
I'm at, I know I can get somewhere else. Thanks

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for being here. I appreciate you. We'll talk to you
next time.