May 22, 2025 • 25 mins
The sugar diet or sugar fast is taking the weight loss world by storm. Here are my thoughts on it based on my personal experience and the studies I’ve done
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello there, thanks for joining me again today for another
episode of Fasting Guy Podcasts.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
That's me.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Today was I didn't really plan on doing an episode
of the podcast until I had something new in my
life update, or until I stumbled across a new study
I thought you guys might like or.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Something like that.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Nevertheless, here we are because this trend that for some
reason just found its way into my algorithm on the
social media's and usually when something that like that happens, me,
being the obsessive personality that I am, I did a
deep dive on it. And I mean I literally, in
the last two days have probably watched ten hours of
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content on YouTube about this, and of course did some
reading up on it as well. It goes back to
some stuff that I read about years ago, because I
actually was kind of into this a little bit years ago,
so it's not new to me anyway. We're talking about
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sugar fasting, sugar diet.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
This seems to be taken over.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
What's shocking to me is it's not just that it's
taking over social media and it's taking over YouTube accounts
and stuff. It's taking over people who have been carnivore
and keto and stuff for years so I wanted to
talk about it. You know, I'm not a doctor, not
a health expert. I'm just a guy who has obsessed
over diet, nutrition, health, health outcomes and stuff since twenty Well.
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I started my weight loss journey in twenty thirteen. I
can't really say I became obsessed with diet and health
for me personally then, but I was obsessed with it
for my mom, who'd been diagnosed with cancer. And that's
why I was trying to lose weight to be able
to be in some kind of a reasonable shape to
take care of her, because I knew her. You know,
cancer journeys typically go one way, sometimes not usually they do,
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and I'm a realist, I'm a pragmatist. I wanted to
be prepared for that eventuality, so I started trying to
lose weight. Anyways, along that journey, I tried many different things.
The first thing was just uh, I don't know if
you guys ever heard. I don't want to recap my
entire story, but I'm gonna give you a brief brief synopsis.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Okay, just bear with me.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I started in twenty thirteen was something called the pink drink,
was also called plexus.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It was all the.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Rage at that time, and apparently there was some effects
of how it blunted blood sugar and insolent spikes. So it,
you know, the original formula to it actually did help
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I think, you know, I lost a little bit of
weight on that.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
We moved from that till I really just started doing
deep dives on literature and following these dossis on YouTube
and really got into vegan and so I started doing
a little bit of vegan, which involved, you know, doing
vegetables and stuff and some fruits and stuff, but I
also was buying a lot of these vegan and meats
and things, and at some point I decided to you know,
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transcend that level and move up to just a whole
food vegan type thing. So it's like, I'm not eating
any of these fake meats and fake stuff like that.
I'll be trying to get my protein from nuts and
seeds and you know, doing it the whole food way.
And then about I guess three or four or five
months into that is when I stumbled across Freely the
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Banana Girl, and I became obsessed with fruit, being a
fruit person, and decided to go all fruit. I want
to do a quick aside about that, because it's funny.
The reason I mentioned it is, I just about an
hour ago watched a video of somebody talking about this
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sugar diet and I went to read the comments, and
I was scrolling down the comments, and lo and behold,
I came across a person who said, I started this
sugar diet, sugar fasting, whatever you want to call it thing.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I don't know how long.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
She said, three or four weeks ago or something. And
I quit smoking without even trying. And I went and
a lot of people comment on how ridiculous outrages that was.
So I'm throwing this in because of that comment. I
think I've talked about this on previous episodes. But so
about years ago, when I moved from whole Food plant
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based to move into a fruit only I obsessed over it.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
For two or three days. I was trying to plan
what I was going to do.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I tried to do a shopping list like I was
because that's the way I'm obsessive. I'm an obsessive personality.
I obsessed ridiculously hard over it, and I was going
to launch on a Saturday, So coming up on that Saturday,
I'm launching into this fruit thing. And so my first
thing that morning was this smoothie. And I used to
make these smoothies. It would have like three or four
bananas in it. I would pour like a couple of
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cups of coconut water in it. Then I would put
my jeweled dates in it. I would put cinnamon in it.
I would put I think, did I say coconut sugar up?
Coconut sugar I would put in it. I think that
was most. And then I put a little bit of
greens in there. I think I'd put like some spinach
in there, but it'd mostly be fruit. Anyways, I got
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up and I was so obsessed that morning, and I
was excited about starting, and I hopped out of bed
and a meat that you went and made that thing
or whatever and drank it sat. I remember sitting in
the reclining here and drinking it and had the TV on,
and you know, I'm reading and studying and watching some
videos and obsessing over it. And then the next thing,
you know, it's noon, and I start thinking about do
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I want some more fruit?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
You know what I want to do?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And it occurred to me I had not smoked a
cigarette that day. It just suddenly dawned on me. Out
of the blow, I'm like, I haven't smoked a cigarette today.
And let me tell you, I smoked for twenty five years,
and probably you know at least half of those was
a pack of day. I was a packa day smoker,
and on the weekend when I was drinking, it'd be
two packs. But on average pack of day. First thing
you do when you're a smoker, and you're in a
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long term addicted smoker, is when you wake up. It's
a toss up between whether you go to the bathroom
first to whether you smoke first. It kind of depends
on how pressing the need is. But I would say
most mornings smoking first thing I would do, get up,
grab a cigarette. You immediately go smoke. Second thing you
do is go to the bathroom. So now I've made
it to like noon this day and I haven't smoked
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a cigarette. Nor did I realize I hadn't smoked a cigarette,
And it dawned on me, and I'm like, well, that's weird.
I don't really fill a craving right now, so we'll
to see how long this goes. And so I prepared
this fruit thing for lunch and you know, I don't
rest in so long. I don't remember what it was,
but I don't know. I know it wasn't a smoothie.
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I remember that it was me cutting up a bunch
of fruits and putting them on like a fruit board,
not a sarcutery board, but a fruit board. So I
think I had like some peaches and some pineapple and
some apples and things like that. Anyways, as the afternoon
progresses and I get into late afternoon, you know, I realized,
I you know, it dawned on me again.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
At some point. I still haven't smoked yet. Anyway, I'm
I'll try to.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Truncate this to a shorter story. I realized it's already
gotten long. But you know, by that evening, like I
still haven't smoked, nor have I had a desire to smoke.
And I'm like, you know, just like the first thing
you do is a smoker every day of smoke. The
last thing you do every day is a smoker as smoke.
That's the last thing you do before you close your
eyes and go to sleep of smoke. And so I'm like,
you know what, I'm snowing smoke. I'm just waiting till
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tomorrow and see how I feel well next day, same thing.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Woke up.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Immediately to the kitchen, to the vita mix, to the
you know, making this smoothie, which was delicious, by the way.
That was my favorite part of that time, was that
breakfast smoothie. I'm telling you, the bananas and majeweled dates
and coconut water and coconut sugar and cinnamon and stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Was so delicious, Oh so delicious.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Anyways, so I didn't smoke, and you know, long story short,
I've not smoked since, nor did I ever experience a
moment of withdrawal. I've never had a craving, never wanted
a cigarette since last year May twenty ninth of twenty
twenty four. This is now, We're now in May of
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twenty twenty five as I'm recording this, but May twenty nine,
twenty twenty four, was ten years. Ten years since I've
smoked a cigarette. I have not once craved one, wanted one,
or even thought about. Only do I think about it
is when I tell this story. The pack of cigarettes
that I had that day is still setting on the
mantle of my fireplaces, which is where I would keep
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my cigarettes. Because I didn't smoke in my house, so
I would get up. The door out to the back
deck is right by the fireplace, so I would leave
my cigarettes every night when i'd get home or every resue,
I'd put them on the mantle. That pack of cigarettes
from now coming up on eleven years ago is still
sitting there on that mantle on the fireplace, and it's
just a reminder. I'll see it sometimes in a smile.
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But so there's something to this now, you know. I
had a lot of theories on why.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
It worked for me.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
One is because I was obsessed with something new, Like
I was literally obsessed with something new, which can distract
your mind. It can hijack your typical fault patterns. And
then the other thing is like mega dozing. So much
sugar just gives you crazy amounts of energy and sugar
buzz and hot it's like a high.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I feel like both of those things together replaced the
what the cigarettes did. I was this fruity fruitarian person guy.
I've eventually changed to where I would start having like
a pound of watermelon for breakfast, and then I would
have that same smoothie that I told you about. I
would start having that for lunch, and then I would
try to eat some like whole sliced fruit for dinner.
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I want to say I did that about a month.
Blood sugars was out of control crazy. I didn't lose
any weight. I mean I felt great because I was
hopped up on sugar all the time. You can't be
hopped up on sugar twenty four seven and not feel great.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I mean, you just don't feel amazing. That's all there
is to it. Anyway. That brings me to this topic
of today, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Anyway, So I moved from that to I miraculously found
keto at some point, and I've told that story about
how it changed my life. I believe it extended my
mom's life by three to five months. I think she
would have died three to five months earlier if we
hadn't have found keto and I hadn't have found the
power of really high fats and stuff. And I've experimented
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with carnivore a little bit, but mostly keto.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I would say.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Now, you know, like for the past few years, I've
just been high protein.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Low carb.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
So I really put the emphasis on the protein. I
try to get as much protein as possible in during
the day, and I tried to keep the carbs pretty low.
Less than one hundred grams, you know, as acceptable. You know,
less than seventy grams is great. You know, I'm fine
with all that. Fifty grams is great, especially if most
of it's fiber. So if I have like eighty grams
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of carbs during the day, but like thirty grams of
its fiber, that's amazing for me.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I'm fine with that.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
So it's you know, it's mainly about the protein. I
don't worry about the fats too much either. They just
let them fall where they may. And you know, I've
been losing thirty to thirty five pounds a year now
for the past three and a half years on my
five or six year gold to lose one hundred and
fifty pounds, and we're on track. You know, this past
week we hit like one hundred, one hundred and twelve
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one hundred, sorry, one hundred eight pounds. We hit one
hundred eight pounds. Sorry, my brain was working, so we
hit one hundred eight pounds. All right, What do I
think about this craziness of this? I know it's taking
me twelve minutes to get here, but you know, I
wanted to lay.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
The phone work. It's not that I don't know something
about this. I do for sure.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
This sugar diet, sugar fast will work. So what they're
doing is is they're having most if you do it
right or.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
The help quote unquote healthiest way.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You're eating whole food sugars like fruits and vegetables, but
mostly fruits, and drinking some fruit juices in there too
during the day, and then at night you have a
lean protein meal. So that would either be chicken breast,
maybe shrimp, maybe some kind of lean fish, not fatty fish,
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but some kind of a very lean fish. I don't
really know what those are. Somebody said scallops is one.
Obviously I think shrimp is one. So the problem is
not the problem. The goal is that it's it's a
protein meal where the fat is very very low, and
then you can have some like you know, green leafy
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vegetables like bean, you know, green green beans or those
type things, non starchy leafy vegetables.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
So and then that's it. That's what you do.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
It's like lots of sugar during the day and then
you have a protein meal of the night. Now some
people are going like two or three days where it's
just the sugary stuff, the fruit and nut stuff, and
then they'll have like the lean protein meals.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
For a for a couple of days in a row.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Still they'll do the sugary stuff during the day, but
they'll still have the protein meals either for lunch and
dinner or for only for dinner, and then they'll go
back to two or three days of just doing this
high sugar stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
And so there's a.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Lot of people on here having amazing results with it.
And so what really shocked me is I've seen these
people that have been carnivore for two years and five
years and seven years. And I just watched this guy
who's got a keto channel. He's a keto coach. He's
been he's he lost like eighty pounds on keto and
he's been coaching people on keto for ten years.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
He did it for a week and he lost seven
pounds and his mind is blown and all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
And as I'm watching all this, it occurred to me
that this is going to be very dangerous to some people. Also,
just watched a woman she's not very popular, she has
very few subscribers, but you know, I was doing searching
for it, and her channel came up and she was
amazed now that her blood sugars for like three days
in a row, her fasting blood sugars had been in
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the seventies, which they never are. She's like, yeah, I
mean they get up you know, nineties or whatever, low
hundreds during the day, but then they'll be down in
the low.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Seventies at times.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And she's like, well, it's crazy. Well, I mean I
have answers to all of this.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
This is not me making stuff up. Again. I'm not
a doctor and not a scientist.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I'm just a guy who one learned how to breed
the research in two has spent thousands of hours in
the research.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
A couple things to address.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
So this diet will work for people whose metabolism works well.
So all these people that are experiencing some scept one
of them is this smart bell. Another one of this
guy's that's this really ripped keto coat guy told you about.
Another one is just like this. Cole Robinson, who's.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
The snake diet guy. He's the guy that launched all this.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
He's the guy that coined the freight sugar diet because
he didn't want to call it high car blow fat,
because that has a bad stigma attached to it. So
he said, oh, I'll just call it a sugar diet,
but that's all it is. It's high carblow fat, moderate protein.
All of these people that are posting on their channels
where they're having this amazing success are all people who
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are super fit, super healthy, and super active. You watch
that Mark Bells channel, Like some of his videos are
sitting down. But I watched one of his videos where
he was talking about the the uh, you know, how
he'd lost his weight on the sugar diet and he
wanted to explain it.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And he's walking around. He has a home gym that's massive.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
He was walking laps as he was recording the video,
and he's talking about how he just finished doing fireman
carries and squats, and you know, the guy have subsessed
with nutrition and I mean obsessed with working out.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
He works out all the time.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
People who have that metabolism and that physique will do
very well on this diet.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
They'll be perfectly fine with it.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
What you don't see posted is people that are one
hundred pounds overweight doing this diet and having success with it. Now.
I mentioned in my doing my brief history of my
life of diets since twenty thirteen when I fell into
the freely the banana girl thing.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
She had a diet called thirty bananas a day or whatever.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Which equals out to roughly three thousand calories a day
if you eat thirty bananas a day. Anyway, she would
have all these young girls following her, and they'd it'd
be like, eat, eat all the carbs, Eat all the carbs,
Eat all the sugar.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
That's it, sugar, sugar, shrugar carb carb carb fruit, fruit fruit.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
And some people would have success in seeing her praises,
but a ton of people would just get fatter. They
would just gain more weight, and she would tell them
that it was their body healing and you just need
to stay with it. Your body's healing and you're in
a gain weight. Well, they would stick with it another
month and they gain even more weight, and she'd go,
it's because you've got trauma in your body. Your body's
been traumatized, and you got all this stuff that's got
to heal, and you're not going to start losing weight.
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And still you start healing, and you just got to
put up with the gate weight. And then they would say, oh, well,
I'll try out because stay.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
With another one.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
They'd stay with it and they'd gain even more weight,
and then at some point they just quit because they'd
be gaining like thirty pounds.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Why why why was that?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Well, because these people were obese and they were not
physically active in any kind of a way.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
These were sedentary obese people. If you are a sedentary
obese person, a high sugar diet is going to wreck you.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
You are doing hardly anything to burn off this high
amount of carbs that are coming into your body. You're
doing nothing to offset them. And so the only way
your body can metabolism is through that same method that
made you fat to begin with, and it eventually goes
through this process.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Of not getting into the whole biology of it.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
But it eventually goes through this process where it shunts
these carbs and stores them as fat and fat cells.
This is what it's like to be sedentary and n
you know, any kind of overeating thing, but especially where
you have high sugar, and then especially where it's high
sugar high fat. Now these guys will go, well, that's
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why this diet it's different. It's because it's the high sugar,
but we don't do the high fat, so it's not
mimicking the quote unquote standard American diet. That's making everybody
fat because the standard American diet is high sugar and
high fat, which is something that doesn't occur in nature anywhere.
There's no foods you can find in nature that are
both high in sugar and high in fat because our
bodies don't know how to process.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
It's too fuel sources, and.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Our body will kind of burn one of them and
then the other one it'll just shunt as fat storage.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
It can't switch. It can't.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
It can't do dual fuel source burnings at the same time.
It's just not physically capable of it. And that's why
everybody's obese. That's why the standard American diet is so bad.
That is why you can do a high sugar, low
fat diet and lose weight, but you really need to
do something to burn that sugar off. You kiss can't
be a sedentary person. You can't be a sedentary person,
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especially one who's already obesiance who therefore.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Has a bad metabolism.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
You can't be one of those people and eat high
sugar and low fat and lose weight.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
It just won't work.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Now if you eat such a small amount of it
that you're in a huge chloric des definite.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, it works. So let's say you tried this high sugar.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
You know, low fat thing and you ate like an
apple for breakfast and you had like a grapefruit for lunch,
and then you had a chicken breast and some greens
and stuff for dinner.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yeah, you'd lose weight.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Wine not because it's high fat or not because it
was high carb, you know, low fat, moderate protein.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
It's because you hardly ate anything.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
It's becausein apples like sixty calories or something and a
grapefruits like seventy calories or something, and then for dinner
you had like, you know, one hundred calories of protein
and you know, thirty calories of greens. So you know,
you had like four hundred calories that day. Well, yeah,
of course that's going to work. But it doesn't have
anything to do with the fact that you ate high carb.
It has something to do that you didn't need anything
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if you eat the way these people are talking about eating,
where they're waking up and they're pounding down the smoothies
and they're buying these store ball smoothies and they're going
to Tropical Smoothie and Smoothie King and buying all that,
and there's down in the sugar and they're eating like
two three thousand calories. That's what they're saying, like, Oh,
it just ramps up your metabolism or sugar you eat,
the higher your metabolam and getting so it burns it. Well,
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I mean that's true if you're a healthy person, if
you're mostly lean muscle mass like this Mark Bell and
this col Robinson and these other guys that I watched.
It's Thomas Delower, which Thomas Delower is not necessarily in
favor for it.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
He did do a video on it.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
But if you're a really high you know, a high
body muscle machine, you know, yes, it will make your
metabolism higher, of course it will. But because your body
has already leaned out and you're you know, you have
very little body fat, and you're burning a lot of
calories from all the workouts you're doing all the time.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
And yes, for sure ramp your metabolism. I'm up.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
But if you're you know, Cindy Lou or Tommy Boy
or whoever is sitting on the couch most of the
day and are sitting in the car or sitting at
a desk, and you don't do any exercise in any
working out, and your day is just sitting and sleeping,
and you're eating three thousand calories of sugar. No, any't
gonna wrap Your metabolism is not.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Gonna wrap up. It's just not.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Your body's gonna shunt all the extra calories that they
don't know what to do with.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
In the fact, it's just what it's gonna do.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
So look, you know, I don't I don't know what
state you're in. You know, I don't know your metabali state.
I don't know how obese you are. I don't know
what your daily exercise and workout regimen is like. But
if you fit into the overweight obs sedentary you were
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going to run into serious problems trying his diet.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
You just are.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
If you're moderately acting to reasonably active and you're not
at OBEs, you're just a little bit overweight, it possibly
could work for you too. But if you're sedentary and
you're really a way to really obese and you're your
metabolic you know system is just screwed. Uh, No, bad
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things gonna happen to you. The last thing I wanted
to comment on is this one. The one girl I
saw who was amazed that her blood sugars was in
the seventies.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
And she's like, yeah, I ate this, you know, down this.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Hole smoothie and blah blah blah blah blah burn. And
you know, two hours later, my blood sugar's in the seventies.
I never see it in the seventies. Yeah, your body
is overreacting to all that sugar that's not used to eating,
and it's rushing a crazy amount of insulin out to
deal with it. And this is called an insulin dip.
But you know, you noticed these My aunt was one
of these people.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
God rest her. She's not with us anymore.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
But she was talked about how she had to blow
blood sugar, don't she said, oh, well, I get the
low blood sugar.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Now. Well, what happened.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Was that she would eat so much carb high starts stuff,
the blood sugar would go up, and then her body
would kick out an enormous amount of insulin to deal
with it, which would cause a sugar crash, and so
the sugar would.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Go really low. This is not healthy.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
This doesn't mean that that eating all this sugar and
stuff is fixing your fixing your blood sugar at meat. No,
it means you're going from very high blood sugars to
your body rushing out massive amounts of insulin to deal
with it, and there's an over correction and now you
have low blood sugar that is not healthy. So, uh,
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you know, take my advice with a grain of salt. Again,
I'm not a nutritionist, I'm not a doctor.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I'm not a.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Researcher other than I've just spent my you know, last
twelve years really really into literature and understanding how the
body works now, metabolism works, and all these type of things.
And you know, if you fit that narrow profile of people,
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then this diet is it healthy?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Though?
Speaker 1 (24:05):
And I don't still don't think it's healthy. But could
you do it for a short period of time and
lose ten or fifteen pounds if you wanted to, if
you're one of those unique small section of people that
would work for I mean, sure you could do it.
You can do anything for a short period of time
and lose weight and it'd be okay.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
But I certainly wouldn't make that my lifestyle. I would
get back to.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
A more normal way of eating that it's primarily based
around animal foods, where the kind of foods our body
easily absorbs and it easily extracts nutrition from, and it
doesn't put our metabolic system under duress and stress. Because
I think the literature for the past I don't know
for sure ten years, definitely five for sure, ten and
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then maybe back as much as fifteen years ago. Pretty
much all rallies around supporting this concept to different levels
and degrees. So all right, glad that you were here.
I didn't do this for clickbait. I did it because
I'm concerned. I'm concerned that people won't understand how to
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interpret what's being said and the results certain people are getting,
and we got to look out for each other. I
wish you the very best. Thank you for being here.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
We will talk to you soon.
Hello there, thanks for joining me again today for another
episode of Fasting Guy Podcasts.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
That's me.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Today was I didn't really plan on doing an episode
of the podcast until I had something new in my
life update, or until I stumbled across a new study
I thought you guys might like or.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Something like that.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Nevertheless, here we are because this trend that for some
reason just found its way into my algorithm on the
social media's and usually when something that like that happens, me,
being the obsessive personality that I am, I did a
deep dive on it. And I mean I literally, in
the last two days have probably watched ten hours of
(00:45):
content on YouTube about this, and of course did some
reading up on it as well. It goes back to
some stuff that I read about years ago, because I
actually was kind of into this a little bit years ago,
so it's not new to me anyway. We're talking about
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sugar fasting, sugar diet.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
This seems to be taken over.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
What's shocking to me is it's not just that it's
taking over social media and it's taking over YouTube accounts
and stuff. It's taking over people who have been carnivore
and keto and stuff for years so I wanted to
talk about it. You know, I'm not a doctor, not
a health expert. I'm just a guy who has obsessed
over diet, nutrition, health, health outcomes and stuff since twenty Well.
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I started my weight loss journey in twenty thirteen. I
can't really say I became obsessed with diet and health
for me personally then, but I was obsessed with it
for my mom, who'd been diagnosed with cancer. And that's
why I was trying to lose weight to be able
to be in some kind of a reasonable shape to
take care of her, because I knew her. You know,
cancer journeys typically go one way, sometimes not usually they do,
(02:02):
and I'm a realist, I'm a pragmatist. I wanted to
be prepared for that eventuality, so I started trying to
lose weight. Anyways, along that journey, I tried many different things.
The first thing was just uh, I don't know if
you guys ever heard. I don't want to recap my
entire story, but I'm gonna give you a brief brief synopsis.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Okay, just bear with me.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I started in twenty thirteen was something called the pink drink,
was also called plexus.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It was all the.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Rage at that time, and apparently there was some effects
of how it blunted blood sugar and insolent spikes. So it,
you know, the original formula to it actually did help
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I think, you know, I lost a little bit of
weight on that.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
We moved from that till I really just started doing
deep dives on literature and following these dossis on YouTube
and really got into vegan and so I started doing
a little bit of vegan, which involved, you know, doing
vegetables and stuff and some fruits and stuff, but I
also was buying a lot of these vegan and meats
and things, and at some point I decided to you know,
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transcend that level and move up to just a whole
food vegan type thing. So it's like, I'm not eating
any of these fake meats and fake stuff like that.
I'll be trying to get my protein from nuts and
seeds and you know, doing it the whole food way.
And then about I guess three or four or five
months into that is when I stumbled across Freely the
(03:29):
Banana Girl, and I became obsessed with fruit, being a
fruit person, and decided to go all fruit. I want
to do a quick aside about that, because it's funny.
The reason I mentioned it is, I just about an
hour ago watched a video of somebody talking about this
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sugar diet and I went to read the comments, and
I was scrolling down the comments, and lo and behold,
I came across a person who said, I started this
sugar diet, sugar fasting, whatever you want to call it thing.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I don't know how long.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
She said, three or four weeks ago or something. And
I quit smoking without even trying. And I went and
a lot of people comment on how ridiculous outrages that was.
So I'm throwing this in because of that comment. I
think I've talked about this on previous episodes. But so
about years ago, when I moved from whole Food plant
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based to move into a fruit only I obsessed over it.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
For two or three days. I was trying to plan
what I was going to do.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I tried to do a shopping list like I was
because that's the way I'm obsessive. I'm an obsessive personality.
I obsessed ridiculously hard over it, and I was going
to launch on a Saturday, So coming up on that Saturday,
I'm launching into this fruit thing. And so my first
thing that morning was this smoothie. And I used to
make these smoothies. It would have like three or four
bananas in it. I would pour like a couple of
(04:59):
cups of coconut water in it. Then I would put
my jeweled dates in it. I would put cinnamon in it.
I would put I think, did I say coconut sugar up?
Coconut sugar I would put in it. I think that
was most. And then I put a little bit of
greens in there. I think I'd put like some spinach
in there, but it'd mostly be fruit. Anyways, I got
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up and I was so obsessed that morning, and I
was excited about starting, and I hopped out of bed
and a meat that you went and made that thing
or whatever and drank it sat. I remember sitting in
the reclining here and drinking it and had the TV on,
and you know, I'm reading and studying and watching some
videos and obsessing over it. And then the next thing,
you know, it's noon, and I start thinking about do
(05:42):
I want some more fruit?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
You know what I want to do?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And it occurred to me I had not smoked a
cigarette that day. It just suddenly dawned on me. Out
of the blow, I'm like, I haven't smoked a cigarette today.
And let me tell you, I smoked for twenty five years,
and probably you know at least half of those was
a pack of day. I was a packa day smoker,
and on the weekend when I was drinking, it'd be
two packs. But on average pack of day. First thing
you do when you're a smoker, and you're in a
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long term addicted smoker, is when you wake up. It's
a toss up between whether you go to the bathroom
first to whether you smoke first. It kind of depends
on how pressing the need is. But I would say
most mornings smoking first thing I would do, get up,
grab a cigarette. You immediately go smoke. Second thing you
do is go to the bathroom. So now I've made
it to like noon this day and I haven't smoked
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a cigarette. Nor did I realize I hadn't smoked a cigarette,
And it dawned on me, and I'm like, well, that's weird.
I don't really fill a craving right now, so we'll
to see how long this goes. And so I prepared
this fruit thing for lunch and you know, I don't
rest in so long. I don't remember what it was,
but I don't know. I know it wasn't a smoothie.
(06:50):
I remember that it was me cutting up a bunch
of fruits and putting them on like a fruit board,
not a sarcutery board, but a fruit board. So I
think I had like some peaches and some pineapple and
some apples and things like that. Anyways, as the afternoon
progresses and I get into late afternoon, you know, I realized,
I you know, it dawned on me again.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
At some point. I still haven't smoked yet. Anyway, I'm
I'll try to.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Truncate this to a shorter story. I realized it's already
gotten long. But you know, by that evening, like I
still haven't smoked, nor have I had a desire to smoke.
And I'm like, you know, just like the first thing
you do is a smoker every day of smoke. The
last thing you do every day is a smoker as smoke.
That's the last thing you do before you close your
eyes and go to sleep of smoke. And so I'm like,
you know what, I'm snowing smoke. I'm just waiting till
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tomorrow and see how I feel well next day, same thing.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Woke up.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Immediately to the kitchen, to the vita mix, to the
you know, making this smoothie, which was delicious, by the way.
That was my favorite part of that time, was that
breakfast smoothie. I'm telling you, the bananas and majeweled dates
and coconut water and coconut sugar and cinnamon and stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Was so delicious, Oh so delicious.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Anyways, so I didn't smoke, and you know, long story short,
I've not smoked since, nor did I ever experience a
moment of withdrawal. I've never had a craving, never wanted
a cigarette since last year May twenty ninth of twenty
twenty four. This is now, We're now in May of
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twenty twenty five as I'm recording this, but May twenty nine,
twenty twenty four, was ten years. Ten years since I've
smoked a cigarette. I have not once craved one, wanted one,
or even thought about. Only do I think about it
is when I tell this story. The pack of cigarettes
that I had that day is still setting on the
mantle of my fireplaces, which is where I would keep
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my cigarettes. Because I didn't smoke in my house, so
I would get up. The door out to the back
deck is right by the fireplace, so I would leave
my cigarettes every night when i'd get home or every resue,
I'd put them on the mantle. That pack of cigarettes
from now coming up on eleven years ago is still
sitting there on that mantle on the fireplace, and it's
just a reminder. I'll see it sometimes in a smile.
(09:01):
But so there's something to this now, you know. I
had a lot of theories on why.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
It worked for me.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
One is because I was obsessed with something new, Like
I was literally obsessed with something new, which can distract
your mind. It can hijack your typical fault patterns. And
then the other thing is like mega dozing. So much
sugar just gives you crazy amounts of energy and sugar
buzz and hot it's like a high.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I feel like both of those things together replaced the
what the cigarettes did. I was this fruity fruitarian person guy.
I've eventually changed to where I would start having like
a pound of watermelon for breakfast, and then I would
have that same smoothie that I told you about. I
would start having that for lunch, and then I would
try to eat some like whole sliced fruit for dinner.
(09:50):
I want to say I did that about a month.
Blood sugars was out of control crazy. I didn't lose
any weight. I mean I felt great because I was
hopped up on sugar all the time. You can't be
hopped up on sugar twenty four seven and not feel great.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I mean, you just don't feel amazing. That's all there
is to it. Anyway. That brings me to this topic
of today, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Anyway, So I moved from that to I miraculously found
keto at some point, and I've told that story about
how it changed my life. I believe it extended my
mom's life by three to five months. I think she
would have died three to five months earlier if we
hadn't have found keto and I hadn't have found the
power of really high fats and stuff. And I've experimented
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with carnivore a little bit, but mostly keto.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I would say.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Now, you know, like for the past few years, I've
just been high protein.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Low carb.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
So I really put the emphasis on the protein. I
try to get as much protein as possible in during
the day, and I tried to keep the carbs pretty low.
Less than one hundred grams, you know, as acceptable. You know,
less than seventy grams is great. You know, I'm fine
with all that. Fifty grams is great, especially if most
of it's fiber. So if I have like eighty grams
(11:02):
of carbs during the day, but like thirty grams of
its fiber, that's amazing for me.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I'm fine with that.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
So it's you know, it's mainly about the protein. I
don't worry about the fats too much either. They just
let them fall where they may. And you know, I've
been losing thirty to thirty five pounds a year now
for the past three and a half years on my
five or six year gold to lose one hundred and
fifty pounds, and we're on track. You know, this past
week we hit like one hundred, one hundred and twelve
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one hundred, sorry, one hundred eight pounds. We hit one
hundred eight pounds. Sorry, my brain was working, so we
hit one hundred eight pounds. All right, What do I
think about this craziness of this? I know it's taking
me twelve minutes to get here, but you know, I
wanted to lay.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
The phone work. It's not that I don't know something
about this. I do for sure.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
This sugar diet, sugar fast will work. So what they're
doing is is they're having most if you do it
right or.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
The help quote unquote healthiest way.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You're eating whole food sugars like fruits and vegetables, but
mostly fruits, and drinking some fruit juices in there too
during the day, and then at night you have a
lean protein meal. So that would either be chicken breast,
maybe shrimp, maybe some kind of lean fish, not fatty fish,
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but some kind of a very lean fish. I don't
really know what those are. Somebody said scallops is one.
Obviously I think shrimp is one. So the problem is
not the problem. The goal is that it's it's a
protein meal where the fat is very very low, and
then you can have some like you know, green leafy
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vegetables like bean, you know, green green beans or those
type things, non starchy leafy vegetables.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
So and then that's it. That's what you do.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
It's like lots of sugar during the day and then
you have a protein meal of the night. Now some
people are going like two or three days where it's
just the sugary stuff, the fruit and nut stuff, and
then they'll have like the lean protein meals.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
For a for a couple of days in a row.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Still they'll do the sugary stuff during the day, but
they'll still have the protein meals either for lunch and
dinner or for only for dinner, and then they'll go
back to two or three days of just doing this
high sugar stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
And so there's a.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Lot of people on here having amazing results with it.
And so what really shocked me is I've seen these
people that have been carnivore for two years and five
years and seven years. And I just watched this guy
who's got a keto channel. He's a keto coach. He's
been he's he lost like eighty pounds on keto and
he's been coaching people on keto for ten years.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
He did it for a week and he lost seven
pounds and his mind is blown and all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
And as I'm watching all this, it occurred to me
that this is going to be very dangerous to some people. Also,
just watched a woman she's not very popular, she has
very few subscribers, but you know, I was doing searching
for it, and her channel came up and she was
amazed now that her blood sugars for like three days
in a row, her fasting blood sugars had been in
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the seventies, which they never are. She's like, yeah, I
mean they get up you know, nineties or whatever, low
hundreds during the day, but then they'll be down in
the low.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Seventies at times.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And she's like, well, it's crazy. Well, I mean I
have answers to all of this.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
This is not me making stuff up. Again. I'm not
a doctor and not a scientist.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I'm just a guy who one learned how to breed
the research in two has spent thousands of hours in
the research.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
A couple things to address.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
So this diet will work for people whose metabolism works well.
So all these people that are experiencing some scept one
of them is this smart bell. Another one of this
guy's that's this really ripped keto coat guy told you about.
Another one is just like this. Cole Robinson, who's.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
The snake diet guy. He's the guy that launched all this.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
He's the guy that coined the freight sugar diet because
he didn't want to call it high car blow fat,
because that has a bad stigma attached to it. So
he said, oh, I'll just call it a sugar diet,
but that's all it is. It's high carblow fat, moderate protein.
All of these people that are posting on their channels
where they're having this amazing success are all people who
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are super fit, super healthy, and super active. You watch
that Mark Bells channel, Like some of his videos are
sitting down. But I watched one of his videos where
he was talking about the the uh, you know, how
he'd lost his weight on the sugar diet and he
wanted to explain it.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And he's walking around. He has a home gym that's massive.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
He was walking laps as he was recording the video,
and he's talking about how he just finished doing fireman
carries and squats, and you know, the guy have subsessed
with nutrition and I mean obsessed with working out.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
He works out all the time.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
People who have that metabolism and that physique will do
very well on this diet.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
They'll be perfectly fine with it.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
What you don't see posted is people that are one
hundred pounds overweight doing this diet and having success with it. Now.
I mentioned in my doing my brief history of my
life of diets since twenty thirteen when I fell into
the freely the banana girl thing.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
She had a diet called thirty bananas a day or whatever.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Which equals out to roughly three thousand calories a day
if you eat thirty bananas a day. Anyway, she would
have all these young girls following her, and they'd it'd
be like, eat, eat all the carbs, Eat all the carbs,
Eat all the sugar.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
That's it, sugar, sugar, shrugar carb carb carb fruit, fruit fruit.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
And some people would have success in seeing her praises,
but a ton of people would just get fatter. They
would just gain more weight, and she would tell them
that it was their body healing and you just need
to stay with it. Your body's healing and you're in
a gain weight. Well, they would stick with it another
month and they gain even more weight, and she'd go,
it's because you've got trauma in your body. Your body's
been traumatized, and you got all this stuff that's got
to heal, and you're not going to start losing weight.
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And still you start healing, and you just got to
put up with the gate weight. And then they would say, oh, well,
I'll try out because stay.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
With another one.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
They'd stay with it and they'd gain even more weight,
and then at some point they just quit because they'd
be gaining like thirty pounds.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Why why why was that?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Well, because these people were obese and they were not
physically active in any kind of a way.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
These were sedentary obese people. If you are a sedentary
obese person, a high sugar diet is going to wreck you.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
You are doing hardly anything to burn off this high
amount of carbs that are coming into your body. You're
doing nothing to offset them. And so the only way
your body can metabolism is through that same method that
made you fat to begin with, and it eventually goes
through this process.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Of not getting into the whole biology of it.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
But it eventually goes through this process where it shunts
these carbs and stores them as fat and fat cells.
This is what it's like to be sedentary and n
you know, any kind of overeating thing, but especially where
you have high sugar, and then especially where it's high
sugar high fat. Now these guys will go, well, that's
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why this diet it's different. It's because it's the high sugar,
but we don't do the high fat, so it's not
mimicking the quote unquote standard American diet. That's making everybody
fat because the standard American diet is high sugar and
high fat, which is something that doesn't occur in nature anywhere.
There's no foods you can find in nature that are
both high in sugar and high in fat because our
bodies don't know how to process.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
It's too fuel sources, and.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Our body will kind of burn one of them and
then the other one it'll just shunt as fat storage.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
It can't switch. It can't.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
It can't do dual fuel source burnings at the same time.
It's just not physically capable of it. And that's why
everybody's obese. That's why the standard American diet is so bad.
That is why you can do a high sugar, low
fat diet and lose weight, but you really need to
do something to burn that sugar off. You kiss can't
be a sedentary person. You can't be a sedentary person,
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especially one who's already obesiance who therefore.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Has a bad metabolism.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
You can't be one of those people and eat high
sugar and low fat and lose weight.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
It just won't work.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Now if you eat such a small amount of it
that you're in a huge chloric des definite.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, it works. So let's say you tried this high sugar.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
You know, low fat thing and you ate like an
apple for breakfast and you had like a grapefruit for lunch,
and then you had a chicken breast and some greens
and stuff for dinner.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yeah, you'd lose weight.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Wine not because it's high fat or not because it
was high carb, you know, low fat, moderate protein.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
It's because you hardly ate anything.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
It's becausein apples like sixty calories or something and a
grapefruits like seventy calories or something, and then for dinner
you had like, you know, one hundred calories of protein
and you know, thirty calories of greens. So you know,
you had like four hundred calories that day. Well, yeah,
of course that's going to work. But it doesn't have
anything to do with the fact that you ate high carb.
It has something to do that you didn't need anything
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if you eat the way these people are talking about eating,
where they're waking up and they're pounding down the smoothies
and they're buying these store ball smoothies and they're going
to Tropical Smoothie and Smoothie King and buying all that,
and there's down in the sugar and they're eating like
two three thousand calories. That's what they're saying, like, Oh,
it just ramps up your metabolism or sugar you eat,
the higher your metabolam and getting so it burns it. Well,
(20:28):
I mean that's true if you're a healthy person, if
you're mostly lean muscle mass like this Mark Bell and
this col Robinson and these other guys that I watched.
It's Thomas Delower, which Thomas Delower is not necessarily in
favor for it.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
He did do a video on it.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
But if you're a really high you know, a high
body muscle machine, you know, yes, it will make your
metabolism higher, of course it will. But because your body
has already leaned out and you're you know, you have
very little body fat, and you're burning a lot of
calories from all the workouts you're doing all the time.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
And yes, for sure ramp your metabolism. I'm up.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
But if you're you know, Cindy Lou or Tommy Boy
or whoever is sitting on the couch most of the
day and are sitting in the car or sitting at
a desk, and you don't do any exercise in any
working out, and your day is just sitting and sleeping,
and you're eating three thousand calories of sugar. No, any't
gonna wrap Your metabolism is not.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Gonna wrap up. It's just not.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Your body's gonna shunt all the extra calories that they
don't know what to do with.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
In the fact, it's just what it's gonna do.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
So look, you know, I don't I don't know what
state you're in. You know, I don't know your metabali state.
I don't know how obese you are. I don't know
what your daily exercise and workout regimen is like. But
if you fit into the overweight obs sedentary you were
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going to run into serious problems trying his diet.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
You just are.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
If you're moderately acting to reasonably active and you're not
at OBEs, you're just a little bit overweight, it possibly
could work for you too. But if you're sedentary and
you're really a way to really obese and you're your
metabolic you know system is just screwed. Uh, No, bad
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things gonna happen to you. The last thing I wanted
to comment on is this one. The one girl I
saw who was amazed that her blood sugars was in
the seventies.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
And she's like, yeah, I ate this, you know, down this.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Hole smoothie and blah blah blah blah blah burn. And
you know, two hours later, my blood sugar's in the seventies.
I never see it in the seventies. Yeah, your body
is overreacting to all that sugar that's not used to eating,
and it's rushing a crazy amount of insulin out to
deal with it. And this is called an insulin dip.
But you know, you noticed these My aunt was one
of these people.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
God rest her. She's not with us anymore.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
But she was talked about how she had to blow
blood sugar, don't she said, oh, well, I get the
low blood sugar.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Now. Well, what happened.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Was that she would eat so much carb high starts stuff,
the blood sugar would go up, and then her body
would kick out an enormous amount of insulin to deal
with it, which would cause a sugar crash, and so
the sugar would.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Go really low. This is not healthy.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
This doesn't mean that that eating all this sugar and
stuff is fixing your fixing your blood sugar at meat. No,
it means you're going from very high blood sugars to
your body rushing out massive amounts of insulin to deal
with it, and there's an over correction and now you
have low blood sugar that is not healthy. So, uh,
(23:35):
you know, take my advice with a grain of salt. Again,
I'm not a nutritionist, I'm not a doctor.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I'm not a.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Researcher other than I've just spent my you know, last
twelve years really really into literature and understanding how the
body works now, metabolism works, and all these type of things.
And you know, if you fit that narrow profile of people,
(24:02):
then this diet is it healthy?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Though?
Speaker 1 (24:05):
And I don't still don't think it's healthy. But could
you do it for a short period of time and
lose ten or fifteen pounds if you wanted to, if
you're one of those unique small section of people that
would work for I mean, sure you could do it.
You can do anything for a short period of time
and lose weight and it'd be okay.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
But I certainly wouldn't make that my lifestyle. I would
get back to.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
A more normal way of eating that it's primarily based
around animal foods, where the kind of foods our body
easily absorbs and it easily extracts nutrition from, and it
doesn't put our metabolic system under duress and stress. Because
I think the literature for the past I don't know
for sure ten years, definitely five for sure, ten and
(24:46):
then maybe back as much as fifteen years ago. Pretty
much all rallies around supporting this concept to different levels
and degrees. So all right, glad that you were here.
I didn't do this for clickbait. I did it because
I'm concerned. I'm concerned that people won't understand how to
(25:08):
interpret what's being said and the results certain people are getting,
and we got to look out for each other. I
wish you the very best. Thank you for being here.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
We will talk to you soon.
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