Colin Farrell with Nathan Jones: An Introduction to In Bruges, Batman, After Yang, and The Lobster!!

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Hello everyone, and welcome back to Film Foundations, the collaborative
show between weirding Way Media and Someone's Favorite Productions. As usual,
I am your co host, Ryan Verrell from Someone's Favorite Productions.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
And I am Chris Tashu, your co host from weirding
Way Media. And though you cannot see it because it
is covered up, I am, in fact an ananimate fucking object.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
On this show, we ask and answer for questions about
a given topic that is surrounding either a director, franchise
or micro genre, or something like today's topic, which is
a really interesting actor from the fancy country of Ireland.
We're gonna be discussing mister Colin Farrell, and our job,
as usual is to entice you to broaden your horizons

(00:50):
on film, to encourage you to travel down film tangents
and side roads that you may have never traveled down otherwise. Thankfully,
today we have a guest with us. It is a
dear friend of mine from just a couple hour drive
away that I've met in person a couple of times now,
and I'm so grateful for that, mister Nathan Jones. Nathan,
thanks for being here with us.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well, yeah, thank you both Chris and Ryan for having
me on this glorious podcast talking about one of my
favorite people that I've ever met.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
You and Colin go way back. I was wondering if
Ryan was gonna do like an Irish thing, because he's
like from the country of Ireland. I was like, Oh,
he's doing it already, he's already going growing it in. Yeah,
he's like, you know what, we got to offend him immediately.
You know, the land of Leprechauns and potato fans, and
that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Ingram Tricks, you know, slipcover back there. You know, I'm
assuming by this time there will be a bigger Syndrome
Tricks cover of some kind of movie.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
I don't know, branded cereal or something.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
I mean, it's it's only a matter of time. Funko's
done it.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Oh gosh, they so, Nathan, before we get into why
you love Colin Ferrell, can you share what what you
do on the internet so people can look you up. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
So I have a YouTube channel called specifically Blue Rays
with Nathan Jones, where I talk about obviously blue rays
and physical media. At recent times, I've been kind of
taking a break, but for the most part, I'm I'm
you know, talking about new releases, what I've been watching,
and I've talked to people in the community like yourself, Brian,

(02:30):
and you know, just I I enjoyed this community in
the space, and so it's it's a lot of fun
talking about physical media and ever evolving h you know,
nature of it, you know, like tricks, cereal boxes and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
So well, that is wonderful. I highly recommend people check
out Nathan's channel. I've followed Nathan for years, I believe
before my channel even went live. Uh So at this
point I highly highly recommend it. And now I really
want to dive into this because I know that you
love this person. But before we go into it, I'm

(03:05):
just gonna list some bona fides and say I want
to thank Nathan because he is one of the very
first people that contributed to what is now a print
magazine in The Physical Media Advocate, and he wrote about
Sir Colin Ferrell in the very first issue of the
Physical Media Advocate. So, yeah, you've clearly liked him for
quite some time. You can you share why? Yeah, I

(03:27):
don't know.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
It's all because of this movie that I'm sure will
come up several times in this you know podcast, It's
something that I don't know how it came about.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
More or less.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
I used to work at a record store called TV Warehouse,
which was a big Midwest chain here, which I'm sure
you guys are aware of, maybe possibly if you're in
the Midwest.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, I'm disappointed you didn't say movie trading code to
be perfectly honest with you, or whatever the version entertain
march or no entertaining slackers, yeah, or whatever the hell
it's called in the Midwest. But as that goes by
like three different names, price CD Warehouse wasn't one of them.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, Well, unfortunately defunked. One of my favorite jobs I
ever had, very very much like high fidelity, and everyone
had a you know, a characteristic about them working there,
maybe not so positive all the time, but yeah, no,
I that was when I kind of fell in love
with movies and really kind of deep dove into you know,

(04:25):
movies that were a little bit more art house or
more you know, foreign films, international pictures and et cetera.
And In Bruges came up really early in that lineup,
and it really was a foundational film for you know
how I my outlook on life, honestly, and it's something
that I've shown to many people, and now I feel
like it's a cult classic. You know, a lot of

(04:46):
people really really like it. And I have a feeling,
at least the people in my life, I have something
to do with a little bit of that.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
So yeah, that's why I call it. It's a good
call out. That movie is amazing. I guarantee we'll be
talking about it.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
That movie is amazing. Is under selling it. I'm just
going to and I'm not gonna let you get away
with that one that we're gonna gettle, I know. But
like I think, to Nathan's point, like for me, it
also has that same like there's a point there was
a point where I saw it, and there was a
point where I hadn't seen it.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
And I feel that way about SWAT.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Okay, okay, and you and you see, this is why
we can't have nice things here.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
This is how this is.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
This is you know how I'm the same way about SWAT.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
And I was about to say, if Phone With doesn't
make an appearance somewhere, we're really out of touch here, guys.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
I've literally already wrote it on the list because I
know that we're going to talk about it, So Uh, yes,
that that's how you found your way to Colin Ferrell.
And I'm I'm loving you know all of the priest
for Rahim already, but now we're gonna go Chris, like,
what what was your introduction to Colin?

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Is that it was that movie that Nathan just pulled
out of his quick draw as they would say, quick
draw Nathan Jones over there with his blu ray of
Phone Booth. That was the first thing I ever saw
Colin Farrell in. And boy, what a wild ass movie
that for a lot of I would say, for a

(06:14):
lot of people, is probably not a great movie per se,
But it's an interesting movie because it should not work.
It's almost essentially an episode of a TV show in
a lot of ways, like it's a bottle episode. But
it's somehow like also a really cheap movie to make.
And I don't know, something about Colin Ferrell seems perfect.
I mean, he's not at all Irish in that movie,

(06:35):
which is a thing that comes and goes with mister
Colin Farrell is whether or not they're like, oh he's Irish,
or oh he can just do a really convincing American accent.
But for me, it's Phone booth, and I'm thankful I
can say it was phone booth because there was a
time and a place where it could have been Daredevil,
and Jesus Christ, I'm glad it wasn't that, because nothing

(06:56):
says awful like Colin Farrell with like a bullseye in
printed on his forehead in a way that makes no sense.
They were like, oh, the comic does it. Well, let's
just do it the stupidest way possible.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
And make sure he says that says his name, yeah, yeah,
like all.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
The time, and he kills an old lady in an
airplane with a toothpick, which, you know what else says
great guy other than that? Right? What about you, Ryan,
Where does Colin Ferrell come into your life? What year?

Speaker 1 (07:23):
What time? Funny enough, man? I brought it up in
chest I honestly think Swat was the first movie I
saw him in. I can't remember if I saw that
or Minority Report first, but I remember Swat being one
that I saw in theaters and I was like surprisingly
young at the time. I think that came out in
what two thousand and four, three, two and three? Okay,

(07:45):
So I was literally like my parents driving me to
the movie theater to see a movie age at that time,
and so I remember going to see Swat and uh they.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Were probably jack the whole time. You're like, coot, is
he fucking swat?

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, this movie looks awesome. I mean I remember the
trailer for that movie. That movie looked awesome. I mean,
come on, you were what like sixteen at the time, like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
That's it? Yeah? Uh yeah, I like Swallo when it
came out. I don't think i've watched it since then,
but yeah, I was into it. Yeah, in Bruges was
obviously a big one for me. Alexander was one that
was big for a couple of my friends. So I
saw that handful of times, Like the year I graduated
from high school mentioned Minority Report. I also, I don't
know if we're gonna talk about it much tonight, but

(08:29):
I really want to throw out just a little bit
of love for Miami Vice. That movie is so much
better than it gets credit for.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
He's got it, He's grabbing it. Folks with inside man
with inside me? Well, what the fuck? What a double feet? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Thank you, Carol?

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Why was that the why is that the second film?
What is that? That's a Clive Owen movie, is it not?
There like two people that look vaguely from the UK
Fine Clyde talk about a disparity, and well, I don't
want to disparage Clive Owen. He's he's not He's no
Colin Farrell, let's put it that way. But he hasn't
also been given opportunities like Colin Ferrell has. Clive Owen

(09:08):
is like less fun Gerard Butler because now Gerard Butler's
just been given dumb shit to do and it's more
entertaining than serious stuff.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Man if Colin Ferrell was King Arthur instead of Clive
Owen being an Alexander, Oh, that would have been incredible
in my Yeah, man, that exists, isn't it. I like
that movie, though I have a nostalgia for it. It's
not good Yowen, Grufford Nick, that's Nicholson has watch like

(09:36):
a mute like badass.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
So best way to use an actor who as a
great voice and delivers dialogue fantastically, he's just don't have
him open his fucking mouth.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
It's perfect. Yeah, So I I liked Colin Ferrell from
a very young age. Of course, around that beginning part
of his career. Most of his roles were on uh
the he's early in his career level, and and then
of course stuff started to pick up. He started to
get bigger things, and jad I've loved fallen along. We're

(10:08):
going to talk about some of these I'm sure that
I've loved, especially over the last ten or twelve years.
But other than that, anything else about his history and
any of the films that you think we probably won't
talk about tonight, Nathan, that you really want to give
a little period too. In the beginning.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
I probably will get to them somehow nice it will
probably answer them as props throughout this entire episode.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Well, then, before we get to that first question, I
want to mention one thing that is literally not going
to come up tonight, and I guarantee it because it's
not a film. I really want to shout out how
universal he is in any situation, because I even loved
his role in Scrubs that show. I love Scrubs growing up.
It is an incredible sitcom and his role on that

(10:50):
was so incredibly touching. And it was during the period
when he had, you know, already gone to rehab and
started to make his little bounce back from his little
down period. And people were sort of anti Colin Ferrell
for a little bit, and he was fucking amazing on
that show. He's emotional, he carries out everything he needed
to be. His Irish accent was on full display. He

(11:12):
was like, let's be extra irish today, and it worked.
I think he fit super well in the show.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
I don't remember what episode.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
That is not gonna perfect.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
I think to Nathan's point, I'll probably end up bringing
everything up. But I think the thing that to tie
into a previous episode we've already done and we didn't
mention him there, but let's mention him here. Missed opportunity
of a lifetime having Colin Farrell turn into Johnny Depp
in Fantastic Beast, Because look switched that. There's a bit,

(11:45):
a bit of a downgrade, one might say. And look
not saying I don't like Johnny Depp. That's not the point.
Johnny Depp of twenty sixteen not the same as Johnny
Depp of say, two thousand and six to nineteen ninety six.
And look what happens afterwards. They get embroiled in one
of the dumbest fucking things known to man. Depth versus

(12:05):
Amber Heard, which is still the stupidest thing and any
of us were engaged in for the last five years,
and COVID happened.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
It will come out but a couple of years as
a movie.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Right, Yeah, them playing themselves too, I hope. I mean,
just give me that, right, But I don't think it
deserves to be mentioned, because we're gonna be talking about
positive things. But him being in that franchise was a
good thing until they were like, but just kidding, he's
not actually in it anymore. And then, on top of
everything else, they never address what actually happened to the

(12:36):
character that was actually played by Colin Ferrell in that universe.
I guess he just was killed off screen, but it's
never even addressed because there is a real character in
that universe that is being impersonated by someone else, and
it's just like, oh, further ignore the fact that he
was in this franchise, which is a shame because, like
you mentioned, Mads Michelson ends up showing up too, so

(12:58):
you know, kind of a compliment sandwich with Johnny Depp
in the middle. So yeah, we're not going to be
bringing a fantastic piece anymore. Let's just pretend it never
happened and continue and scene.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, well we're all eager to keep keeping praise on
this gentleman. So Nathan, let's go that first question. What
do you think is the foundational title for Colin Ferrell?
The one that anybody that's never somehow seen a Colin
Ferrell film, what should they watch first?

Speaker 3 (13:27):
I wonder what it'll be.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
I wonder what it will be.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
It's inmbvers. I just think this this movie. There's a
lot of actually, there's actually a couple of movies that
I actually would put in this category, to be honest,
in terms of maybe just kind of solidifying who Colin
Ferrell is and kind of you know, where he's been
and all the all the escapades he's been around and done.

(13:54):
But I honestly think this is, you know, super sensational
in terms of being all over the map in terms
of a black comedy an action movie. Uh, you know,
it's it's something that I feel like most people if
if you go into this blind, uh, you're gonna find
something out of this that you enjoyed, and you don't

(14:15):
you don't really know where to put your finger on it.
Because I feel like this is one of those movies
you have to need to watch multiple times to kind
of digest. And that's been the case for almost anyone
I've ever shown this movie too. It's they're like, wow,
I really enjoyed that, and you know, they they're interested
in watching it again, you know, in the in the future.

(14:37):
And so yeah, it's one of those movies that I
think is just it. It hits the and the almost
aimlessness of life in a way, but in like a
way that is really charming and I don't know how
to describe that that feeling, but yeah, this is this

(14:59):
is what I would consider or you know, a foundational
title for you know, Colin Ferrell. I mean, this is
the one that's become the cult classic film. You know
that he is beloved for and in that moody, you know,
selfishness of his character that I can very much relate
to and not have a good time in many situations
that I'm in. And if anyone's who hasn't seen this movie,

(15:21):
that's kind of that character to a t. He just
does not want to be there so or around or.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Anybody that hasn't seen it, can you I'd love to
hear how you describe the plot?

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Well, the plot is pretty simple, but more or less
I would I would describe this movie as two hitmen
who are taking a little break away from a job
in Bruges and Belgium, and they're just set there to
kind of just hide out for a bit to make
things cool down, because it's an incident that occurred that

(15:57):
happened earlier that you catch on pretty early on in
the film, and more or less one of them doesn't
want to be there. Colin Farrell and then Brennan Gleeson,
who is the other main character in this in this film,
one of the three main characters in this film, I
would argue, is just the other the more senior of
the hitman and the one who's been around the block
for a little bit and there's a little bit more

(16:18):
chipper and excited to be on vacation, and you know,
you have that that clashing duality between the two, and yeah,
things go awry as you know, things are trying to
cool down. But I wouldn't describe, you know, much more
after that. So I think In Bruce is a perfect film.
I think this is masterfully written by Martin McDonough. I

(16:40):
think that the way that he crafts a script that
knowing that he's going to direct it to and obviously
he does that at least one more time. In this
little partnership that they have, he has been able to
see things from beginning to end in a way that
others don't necessarily get to do. And you can tell

(17:03):
that these are incredibly personal films for him because he
has been a part of it from the very beginning.
And obviously the trio of Colin Farrell, Brennan Gleason and
Martin McDonald working together is magical at this point, Like
we've seen multiple instances where they can deliver a film
that is special, that leads to awards talk, that leads

(17:24):
to being foundational films for people that are seeing them
for the first time and falling in love with different
types of cinema. And this is literally a perfect film
for somebody to get into this entire filmography because it
has everything, Like you said, it's got comedy, it's got action,
it's got a little bit of that you know, international

(17:47):
flare obviously is it's in just this gorgeous setting, and
it's got some.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Of the prime players that he spends a lot of
his time with. So I completely agree this is clearly
my pick, head and shoulders above anything else. I would say,
if you are fairly new to movies in general and
you want to go something on the easier side, I
would honestly say Phone Booth would be a terrible pick
for somebody just getting into it. I think that if

(18:12):
you are into the mainstream fair it's a very good
movie to start with to fall in love with him
as an actor, because he carries the film and leads
to a surprising successful film. Because that movie should not
be as good as it is for what he's doing.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Up. Okay, yeah, I got I have a couple of
things I want to say here. I agree with your
sentiment on phone with one. I will say that I
think Phone Booth works. Sitting here thinking about it as
y'all have been talking, I think Phone Booth would not
be as good if it didn't also have Keifer Sutherland

(18:52):
in it. And I think that Keeper and Colin. I
think that movie's interesting with Colin Farrell in it, but
I think it becomes kind of like for me, the
film The Watcher, which has Keanu and James Spader in it.
That movie is a piece of Okay, the move's not great.
I don't want to say it's piece of shit. But
it's not a great movie. But it really is interesting

(19:15):
because you have Keanu playing a villain, which is a
thing that he rarely does. Keeper Sutherland in that movie.
I'm not saying Keeper doesn't play villains, but the character
that Keeper is playing in Phone With is more interesting
than Colin Farrell's character. But Colin Ferrell's character is the
the vehicle through which the film exists. I would agree
with you, guys, obviously In Bruges is a perfect movie. Uh.

(19:38):
It is a movie that is very was important to
me for a very long time, and it would have
been my answer up until about six months ago. And
so here's the thing. The real sad thing here in
talking about In Bruges is that there are not enough
movies by Martin McDonough to do an episode on Martin
McDonough because Martin McDonough is the mass of which Colin

(20:01):
Ferrell is the brush through which the canvas is being painted.
Because Martin McDonough is, for me, Stanley Kubrick level of
talent like a seminal filmmaker. More so even because he
writes and directs the things that he's doing, which I mean, look, uh,
I'm more of a fan of Martin McDonough than I
am of someone like Tarantito, and I probably if I

(20:24):
saw his films, I haven't gotten around to it yet.
Jorgo's lanthemost probably I would feel the same way about him.
I haven't gotten around to seeing his films, which is
why they're not showing up here for any of the
Colin Ferrell picks. But I would concede that In Bruges
is a perfect film and is the perfect answer for
this question. However, because you both already brought it up,

(20:44):
because you both already mentioned it, because he's got it
on quick draw, let's see if he's right. Hold up
what you think I'm going to say? Shh, Yeah. That
is Colin Ferrell's best movie so far. It's Martin McDonough's
best film so far, and it is Brendan Gleeson and
Hollan and Ferrell's best performances. Because the story that it's telling,
on the face of it is about a friendship that

(21:06):
falls out and one of the people cannot figure out
why and the other person knows why, and the lack
and ability inability to communicate leads to some of the
worst things that you can see in terms of like
unfortunate things happening to characters in movies for seemingly not
improbable reasons. But the tension and the escalation of the

(21:29):
problems in that movie is similar to what the movie's
subtext is, which was the conflict between Ireland and England
and all of the things that were going on during
that conflict, And that's what the movie's subtextually about. But
on the face of it, it's about the dissolution of
a friendship with which we can all understand, which is

(21:51):
why for me in Bruges it kind of they're the
same coin, different heads. One is about the listlessness of
life and never feeling like you are going to be
satisfied with life, even in the most satisfying situations like
being in Bruges. I've been to Brussels and I've been
to places like they're where they're talking about in that movie.

(22:12):
It's beautiful, how could you not love it? But again,
that's what in Bruce talks about. Banchees of Innasheron is
about what happens when life goes too far and there
is no way back, and what does it look like
to move forward without forcing yourself to look back? And
that's something that the last couple of years of my
life I've had to really internalize. And Banchees of Inn

(22:33):
a Sheron came into my life at a time where
I needed to see what that looked like cinematically to
help process what I was going through personally. And I
think Banjis of In a Sharon is a perfect movie
as well. I think they're both perfect movies, I actually
think to both of your points. And again, to speak
more broadly about Martin McDonough, I think Martin McDonough has
done his best work in film with Colin Ferrell and

(22:56):
Brendan Gleeson, because if I were to rank his movies,
it would be Banche's and In Bruges one to two,
and then Seven Psycho Pass three and then Three Billboards four.
And that's kind of unfortunate because Three Billboards it didn't
work for me because I think the movie is morality
is odd, and it may be I think it's weird

(23:18):
only because it's an outsider giving his thoughts on our culture,
and I don't think it necessarily works as well as
Martin McDonough thinks it does. And Seven Psychopaths is a
lot more of a personal story because it's effectively about
being a creative and describing to other people what it
means to be a creative in a way that Martin
McDonough is uniquely talented to do. But if Martin McDonough

(23:41):
never made another movie, this is a very good bookend
and opening movie in Bruges and Banshees them in a
Sharon like they're two perfect movies. And for me, Colin
Ferrell and Banshees is also perfect because he is playing
against type. He is so hardcore, playing against type. He
is playing the dullered Moron character that you would really

(24:03):
think Brendan Gleeson would be better suited for. But yet
somehow Colin Farrell playing this dope is so engaging and
he's so empathetic and you understand why he gets to
the point where he gets to and when he does
the things that he does that seem reprehensible, you're like,
you know what, You're right at this point, you don't

(24:23):
have another choice and this is the only way forward.
And I don't know, I think that that's maybe why
this elevates this a little bit above in Bruises for
me at this point, again personally is one thing, but
also I think it's more interesting to see Colin Farrell
really play against type, and Banshe's is like case one
of him playing against type because Colin Farrell is a

(24:46):
dullard really like, that's not the guy you want to
play as a dullard, but yet he he nails it.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
That's on Banshee's, Nathan, I love Banshe's and I would
have to u second that honestly, Uh, perfect book ends.
Like you said, It's Banshees to me is a very
wizend look into you know, Martin McDonough's like playwriting career,
and also just that that friendship between Colin Farrell and

(25:15):
Brennan Gleeson and really kind of shining that light in
my opinion, Uh, with that backdrop obviously of the Civil War,
uh and the secession and and whatnot. But at the
end of the day, though like it, it feels deeply personal. Uh,
it's it's it's tragic, but at the same time, it's
it's very very realistic and it's uh, you know, portrayal

(25:38):
even if it's outlandish and crazy with the the events
that happened in the in the in the film, I
think it's one of those films that like completely just
uh uh floored me when I watched it, and that
was my favorite movie of the year it came out,
and I couldn't argue against the fact that you said
that's better than in Bruges, even though it's the same coin,
you know, other side. Uh, But yeah, more or less,

(26:02):
I love this movie. I think it's a masterpiece, and yeah,
it's it's a perfect film as well, and I couldn't
I couldn't disagree, So.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, I do agree, and I do think it's Colin
Perrel's best performance. My only thing is I do think
that this is this is more of a movie made
for movie lovers, made for cinophiles, and I think that
it has a little bit more of a barrier of
entry than in Bruges. In Bruges kind of fits a
lot more genres and Banshees' is a little slow, and.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
J's is a movie with a capital M. Is what
it feels like made by a director with a capital D.
And I get, like, I get that that's why, like
there's a minor amount of trepidation, But I feel like
if you stick with it for the performances, you'll be
able to power through the kind of slow burn because
the movie is a slow burn. But once it gets going,
I mean it just kind of goes it just goes

(26:53):
for it. I mean again, it goes for it in
a way that a Martin McDonough movie does, which is
to say, like it's character interacts. There's not you know,
alien spaceships and shit. It's it's very low key, but
you feel how important the stakes are to the characters,
and that's why it matters.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yes, And I don't even really count it as a
slow burn. I'm more recount it as like it's a
movie about interactions, and therefore it can't go too fast
otherwise none of it works, right And I funny enough,
and she's gonna watch this episode so high, mom. But
I think I saw this embodied perfectly when I watched this,
because I watched it with me and my wife and
my mom and we're all sitting there and we go

(27:29):
through this entire film and we get to the end
and I'm like borderline almost about to burst out to
tears because of how much this meant to me, because
I was same with you, Chris, like at that perfect
age to be like you got to let some of
these relationships go, you're carrying things that you don't need
to carry for other people. Blah blah blah. There's other shit. Anyways,
we get done to my mom like gets up to
go get water and she comes back and she goes.

(27:51):
But what were they fighting about?

Speaker 2 (27:54):
I mean, hey, I mean I get it, though, Like
I totally get it. Like there's they're like, like we've
already alluded to. Banchi's is a harder to digest movie,
but it's not indigestible, Like there are movies that, like
you would suggest it to someone and be like, hey,
by the way, you're probably not even gonna like this movie.
You may not even find this entertaining, but you need
to understand how important it is. Like Banchee's is not

(28:16):
that it is just it's a drama in Bruges, more
of like a there's more going on, like you mentioned, Nathan,
there's there's so much going on that it is just
more accessible for most people, because I mean, I think
to call it a Tarantino adjacent movie is probably the
easiest way to get certain ding dongs through the door.
I think that's to diminish Martin McDonough as a writer director,

(28:39):
because I think again, heads and tails above just copying
other people's stuff and saying it's your own. So again,
at least Martin McDonough has original ideas. Sometimes it does
take a while to get there. I mean, if you
told someone what Banshees of Insaron was about, it takes
like a half an hour to get to the thing
that the movie's about. Takes half an hour to get

(29:00):
to the point where one character is doing the thing
that you tell everybody this movie is about. It get
it gets you through the door for some people, like
what the flack is this movie about? But it takes
like thirty minutes to get there. In Bruges, it's like immediate,
you're you're already you're in Bruges with them, and there's
like a flashback or two and that's it. Like Banshees
is slow, like you've said, Ryan, because it has to be.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
I also think it's just the perfect combination of the two.
I mean, if anyone's ever I mean watching it, you know,
in Bruges first and then following it up with Banshee's
and like you're both talking about the certain times of
your life. Like I think that's like these these films
will break you, and I think at a certain point.
And I think that's the reason why, you know, to

(29:43):
both your points about watching Banshees, it broke me too
when I watched it, because I'm at that stage now
of my life where all my friends are moving away
or you know, getting in relationships, et cetera. And so, yeah,
it's uh, it hit, and I feel like it's gonna
hit the next time I see it, you know, and
I already know what it's all about.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
So and I'm not gonna mention it at any other
point here, but again, to kind of put a cap
on my thoughts, Seven Psychopaths is a movie that's a
lot more fun than I think. I don't know, it's
a weird movie. I've watched it three times now and
I think I've appreciated it more each time I watch it.
But it is I think, of the three Colin Farrell
Martin McDonough collaborations, it's the hardest to digest because I

(30:27):
think it's the most personal because again it's speaking to
the creative process that Martin McDonough is going through. I mean,
the Colin Farrell character in that movie is vaguely veiled
as Martin McDonough essentially, So I don't know. Seven Psychopaths
to me, like people went to see it thinking it
was going to be in bruises and it's way less

(30:50):
in bruises than even Band Cheese is, Like seven Psychopaths is.
If you watch the trailer for that movie, it is
not even that movie that the trailer is advertising it as.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Almost feels like a Coen Brothers movie in some ways, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
And Martin McDonough, like you know, Three Billboards has speaking
of Cohen Brothers, right, Francis McDorman gets an oscar from
working with Martin McDonough. Gott an oscar for working with
the Cohens, because these people know how to write scripts
and direct the shit out of him. Like, even if
they didn't direct the shit out of them, which they do,
they still are some of our like finest like screenwriters.

(31:26):
And in Martin McDonough's case, he's a goddamn playwright before
he's even a screenwriter, which I think for me, is
again further proof that Martin McDonough he could be done
with film, is my point, and come back to it
twenty years from now and have more to say twenty
years from now. But he's been doing playwritings while being
a filmmaker as well, so you know, hats off to him.

(31:47):
It's just too bad we don't have enough movies to
do a whole episode on, not yet at least well.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
And because he was a playwright. You can see that
in so many of his films, but specifically Banshee's like,
none of us may, but I gotta give real quick
shout out. Barry Keegan is insane in that movie. He
is maybe like, yeah, Colin Ferrell puts on a career best,
but Barry Keegan shines in every single scene he's in.
And even I don't think this movie works properly if

(32:14):
this is anybody else besides Carrie Condon in her role,
she is incredible in that as well. Really, the four
of them fit perfectly. But he frames each of those
interactions as if they're on stage. He frames those as
if you can imagine where they are stage right, stage left.
You are seeing a very intimate interaction, and even the

(32:35):
longest and largest interactions are It's a very small thing
because it's it's all encapsulated in this very small town,
and that leads into the dynamics of the friendship itself.
It changes the entire reality of this story if it's
not filmed in that small, intimate way.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Iactly, wow, And I was gonna say well, And I
was also going to say to your point about it
feeling I a stage play. That for me is why
three Billboards does it work as well? Is because three
Billboards just it should have just been a play. Like
I don't know, like the subject material, I get it,
but for me, it just I don't know, like maybe
we'll it's it's it's yeah, you're right, like that's probably

(33:17):
the nice that to be diplomatic, it's kind of tone deaf.
But at the same time, Martin McDonough is a outsider
looking at our culture and giving his kind of you know,
one hundred yards stare or whatever you want to call it,
And I get it. I just the ending of that
movie I find to be strange, and just like the
moral compass that it decides to point itself that direction

(33:39):
is just like really okay, Like even Banshees and in
Bruges and Seven Psychopaths, their moral compass is less, I
don't know less. Like you said tone deaf.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Well, I think tone deaf is the great way to
lead into our second question of the night, So let's
start discussing this one. Of course it is Nathan, could
you recommend a a lesser known film in his filmography
which might not be the best first time watch for
people brand new to Callin Ferrell, but of course still
a good entry.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
Yeah, so I kind of cheated. And while when I
say that, I mean I have a TV show as well,
So I will mention that here in a second. But
the movie I want to talk about is one that
actually I looked into it a little bit more in
terms of this time period in Colin Ferrell's life, and
it's really important to him. Actually it's on Dane Ondane

(34:32):
right here. It's a little Irish film two thousand and nine,
I believe is when this came out, is right around
the time he actually had his child, his first kid,
and so this is about a it's pretty much a
fairy tale film. I know we didn't mention fairy tale
when we talked about Mbrouges, but that's kind of funny,
a little bit of a combination there. But it's about

(34:52):
a Selkie more or less him just being this fisherman
at this small little town and he is pretty much
a town, drunk, nobody's got a little kid that he's supporting.
But he's you know, he's he honestly, he can't take
care of himself.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
So uh.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Anyway, he catches this this woman in his net when
he was, you know, fishing randomly, and it happens to
be a selkie. So but he's not really sure like
how he met her. Uh, and then they interact together
and it starts becoming a relationship, even though he can't
tell if it's just a woman who just happened to
be in the water. It's it's a weird movie. It's

(35:32):
surprisingly dark. I would have cand it to something like
Pan's Labyrinth in terms of like that dark fantasy, uh
in a way, and tragedy as well. There's some tragic
stuff going on in this movie. But at the same time,
I mean, it's not a movie that's really talked about
or really thought about too often. I was drawn to
it because Colin Farrell was attached to it, of course,

(35:54):
but has has either of you seen this film?

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (35:58):
And it has long hair Colin Ferrell though that's that's
all I care. But that's all I mean. Long hair.
Colin Farrell is is a vibe for sure. I understand
same same.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Okay, now your turn, Ryan.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
You don't want to see where my air is, well,
oh it's my back by the way, everyone, this is
the this is the film that comes out right after
in Bruges too. That's that's super interesting.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Yeah, both kind of kind of ties to his homeland
too in a way, so I which is an interesting
conversation too, because I mean we mentioned Alexander that was
a really tragic moment like in his career, and he
really did not like going through the aftermath of that film,

(36:44):
which a lot of us didn't either, and so I
feel like him stepping down to these smaller roles was
really really important for him to just kind of garner
his confidence back, like for himself, and it really shows.
I think that's another reason why I love and Bruce
so much, is because you can kind of tell that
it almost feels like that's that's Colin Parel, that's just

(37:07):
him being himself, and honestly, like it's I mean, it's
similar in this He's like he's just this drunk fisherman
and going through the motions of things and then something
you know, magical happens, and in a way, it kind
of gives you that Eureka moment in his life to

(37:27):
be like, you know what, maybe I should, you know,
try a little bit. He doesn't have to. It's not
like a typical romance. It's just one of those things
where it's like I'm I'm a piece of shit, but
at the same time, I, you know, I think I
can try a little bit better. And I think that's
a really good message and a very realistic message, even
if this fantasy and something like this, And that's why

(37:49):
something like this I think is important to talk about.
But the other one I wanted to mention real quick
is a TV show I think a lot of people
who really need to see it. Came out a couple
of years ago. It's The North Water. This is an
incredible BBC show, like Holy Mully. It's a mini series.
Colin Farrell plays actually a villain, this kind of whaler,

(38:13):
almost like a captain ahab of sorts character in this
and he is just brutal. And it's one of my
favorite shows I've seen in quite some time, actually, and
it's one that's not really talked about, but it's got
Jack O'Connell and Colin Farrell.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Yeah, and I.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Don't know if it's available in the States necessarily how
to import this but on DVD, but it's definitely one
I would check out, especially if you are into like
mation and Commander, you know, things along those that ilk
where it's almost like you have like that, you know,
those book novels, but also the movie itself, if you're
into that, you know that time period in history, it

(38:50):
definitely shines a light onto that. But you also just
have an incredible performance with Colin Ferrell just being an
absolute psychopath in this movie. And honestly, I could see
this role turn in to this movie, which we'll talk
about later, I'm sure, but that's exactly that transition I
could see so easily from this particular performance just being
a complete madman. So anyway, North Northwater, you.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Know how glad I am you didn't pull a DV
deer blu ray of True Detective up, because I would
have just been like, what the fuck are we doing here?

Speaker 1 (39:22):
What is going on here?

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Man?

Speaker 3 (39:27):
I try to block that from my memory, but I
also have a good time with it sometimes too.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
I mean, it is Colin Farrell, He's still exactly mildly entertaining, exactly.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Chris, what is your answer for our second question this evening.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
So, twenty eleven and twenty twelve are pretty what I
would say, pretty big years for Colin Farrell in terms
of being a mainstream actor and being in mainstream things
that lots of people would be seeing. Now. Twenty eleven
and twenty twelve, there are four movies that Colin Ferrell

(40:04):
was in, and I am not going to be picking two.
I'm going to be picking one. I did already mention
Seven Psychopaths, which I think is, you know, kind of
a fair answer. But boy, there's something about that twenty
eleven Fright Night that really just gets my blood going.
And I'll tell you what. It took me a decade
plus to see the original movie. That's how much I

(40:26):
like the remake. I had never even seen the original.
When I saw the remake, Colin Ferrel is just look,
Colin Ferrell is amazing in that movie. David Tennant is
amazing in that movie. Anton Yelchin is amazing in that movie.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
By the way, Tony Kolletz in that fucking movie too.
The fact that the four of them are in that
movie is crazy to me because they're amazing.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Oh I forgot two more names though, Imagen Poots and mclovin.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Yeah, mclevin's in there too.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
I'm not the biggest fan of chris Min's plass. I
never have been, and I probably never will be. And
his role in kick Ass was like, I really don't
like you now, and I know that the was the
intention of the character in the movie, but for me,
chris Min's plus I look, let me rephrase this. I
don't like super bad, Okay, So there if that that,
that's that's kind of what formed my kind of opinion on.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
His hair to be barely in that movie.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
So I yeah, but also.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
He's really only great in role models, that's true.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Yeah, that's fair. You're right, that's the one thing I
like him. Man, You're totally right, And that's because his
character is annoying in the right way, not in the
way that's just like, oh, this is gonna be a
thing for like the rest of our lives now, because yah,
the mcleven things just like Jesus Christ. I bet he
wants to get out of from underneath it. But yeah,
to your point, he's actually in Fright Night. He's great,

(41:43):
but that's because again he's doing a very villainous, kind
of a fun villainous role. Unfortunately, no gay porn from
Chris Min's plus can't be said for the original Fright
Night actor. But I love the remake of Fright Night.
I think it's great. I was not gonna mention total recall,
but I want to mention, boy whoo doggy, what a

(42:03):
missed opportunity, because there's a universe where that movie was
actually good. It's not this one, so that's too bad.
And everybody remember how Ethan Hawk was in that movie
for like two seconds. It wasn't in the theater cut though,
but if you watch the extended cut of an already
mediocre movie, it's mildly better. And by mildly I mean

(42:25):
one percent if that. But Fright Night for me is
an easy pick.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
I feel like Ethan Hawk is actually one of my
other That was one of my other choices for this
podcast because that's one of my favorite actors as well.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
So and if every answer on that episode's not the move,
what the fuck is the name of the movie with
Pool in it? Oh?

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Are you talking about Idios? No? No?

Speaker 3 (42:46):
No, hold on, hold on, let me go back to akis.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Sinister Yeah, boogool I just that's so dumb.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
That's Kane.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
It looks like I love that movie.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
I mean it's a fun movie. But the name booghool
just makes me laugh, yeah, because it just makes me
think of makes me think of Begoole the Legends of the.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Guardians, Right, yeah, I like that movie too, But yeah,
you're right, it is a silly name. He looks like
he looks like Kane.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Uh with.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
That's gotta be Begooloo Entergy impact Zone. He's where to
begool oh?

Speaker 1 (43:28):
God?

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Oh yeah, but hey that's the other thing, uh to.
Speaking of horror, I believe Fright Night is the only
horror movie Colin Farrell is in, so not to be
a homer for horror movies, but it's a pretty good
horror movie too. It's a good remake in a time
and a place where remakes that were good were kind

(43:49):
of going out of style, because, if memory serves, didn't
the reboot of Nightmare on Elm Street come out like
the year before this, like twenty ten, and that movie
is replete with great actors and does nothing with any
of them, So you know, Korea, Yeah, wait, Frida Night's

(44:10):
a good pick.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Right, Yeah, I love frid Night.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
It is a great pick and one of my picks.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
So I was like, oh no, did I take Ryan's
pick by accident?

Speaker 1 (44:21):
So funny enough, I'll change mine entirely. But what I
was going to pitch this as is whether you're a
fan of comedies or or is going to determine which
one you go with for me? Because twenty eleven is
my answer, I would say Horrible Bosses is only great
pit or Frida Night. Obviously, both of them have incredible casts,
and they're incredible performances from him literally in both films.

(44:44):
He's amazing in both. But I'm gonna throw out there
one since we haven't even mentioned either of these movies yet.
Tonight you've got to talk about killing of a sacred
deer and a lobster.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Like I said, no, your ghosts on my.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
End, I they have to be brought up like they're both.
They are both insanely entertaining films, and if you're into
the absurd, like you have to get into these. But again,
if Banshi's of Insheron, it has a little bit of
a barrier to entry. Any Yorgos film is going to
be like you need to wait and then get into
that film, and these are the perfected examples of that.

(45:19):
It is very, very absurd, to the point where many
scenes to most people on the first try are probably
not gonna make a lot of sense, and when you
go through the entire film, yeah, you're probably gonna be
at least mildly entertained. But the big takeaway from both
of these Colin Ferrell's amazing in both of them. He
works really well, really well with Yorgos. And now, of

(45:40):
course Jorgos has his own little mus that he's been
working with for what three movies in a row now,
and so Colin Ferrell seems to be on the back burner.
But that's all right. Maybe it comes back with Theorgos
the next one. But I think both of these are
a really great pick, and they are solid films with
a lot of rewatchability because they're so absurd. It's one

(46:00):
of those things where you watch it and you go, well,
that was a lot. I really liked it, but now
I want to understand it. Let's come back and watch
it four more times. So that's my backup since you
took half.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Now, the real question, Ryan is which animal would you
be if you were in the lobster.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
I saw this coming. I should have I should have
prepared this. But it would probably it would probably be
something like a handicapped sloth. I am I'm fat.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Are you talking about like like without like a certain
amount of clause or sloths already slow?

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Yes? Yes, I've got a bad foot. That's why I
said that.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
A slower sloth than yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
A slower sloth. Yeah. Uh, it's a great, great question.
It would definitely not be a lobster though. This is
this is one of those like personality quiz type things. Yeah,
I love going to people after watching this. So what
do you think, Chris, Now your turn? What would you
choose as an animal?

Speaker 2 (46:55):
I've never even seen it. That's the thing I'll pick up.
I'll pick you know what, I'll pick animal the movie
none of us mentioned. I'll pick a giant flying elephant.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
Dumboy.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
He was a Colin girl was in Dumbo as an amputee.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Joplin, Missouri. That is really close by, by the way.
That's I see Dumbo on my little work all the time.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
So not true.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
I would I would probably. I would probably choose I
thank you for asking. By the way, I would probably choose.
I would see, I don't even know what I'm talking about.
You know, I probably would choose a dog, which is
really boring, but I think I would. I would be

(47:40):
at border collie and then live my my, you know,
fifteen years of life and then be done so.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Because you're a good friends.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
As a border collie, you'd live on the fringe of
things the whole time.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Yeah, exactly, just right on the border.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Yeah, right on the border.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Oh man, Yeah, this is this is one of those questions. Unfortunately,
because it's about somebody like Colin Ferrell, they're literally is
like fifteen answers that we could have been like, yeah,
that's the right answer for this, and the reality is
with somebody that is as talented as him, unfortunately, there
are some stinkers, Like not every film in his filmography
are winners. Overall, he puts in mostly good performances. There's

(48:21):
a couple that I wouldn't say are real great, especially
in those earlier years. But this is a hard one
to answer for somebody like him, who is kind of
the best in almost everything that he touches. So it's
really easy to recommend anything. And if you've never seen
any of these somehow you were not going to be wrong,
just going anywhere that we've already went in that path tonight,

(48:44):
Are we ready for question three? Gentlemen, I believe so,
I guess so, yeah, let's do it as usual. What
is the biggest impact that you think Colin Ferrell has
had on pop culture as a whole?

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Mister Jones, Now when you when you asked this question,
I didn't know how to answer it in terms of
his like film or would it be like kind of
just how he is as a as a person. That's yes, yeah,
that's the best part of this question. It is up
to you. You get to interpret it however you see fit.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Well.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
I mean I'm gonna tie it back to in brus
a little bit and be a little selfish here when
I say that, I mean it in the way that
Colin Ferrell's like life is and how he's gone through
his life. I definitely feel like he has had a
crazy amount of ups and downs, drug addiction, sex addiction,

(49:39):
you know, being around many people, being a father, being
in a lot of various roles, ups and downs, Alexander
being a bad bad time coming back up with all
these indie roles. But at the same time, I just
seeing him interact with you know, people and in interviews
or you know, with friends that I've seen, you know,

(50:03):
just in the you know, the videos that we've seen
of him, and the way he like speaks in writing
as well. He just seems like a very honest, straightforward
person who is not afraid to talk about what he's
how he's feeling about things. And I feel like his
character in in in Bruges is absolutely that he's like,
I do not have any fear of what I how

(50:25):
I how I'm feeling about this is how I'm feeling
about it. I don't want to do this thing, but
at the same time, life's worth living, even if it
is a little bit all over the over the map.
And uh, it's hard to explain with with with that
popular culture, but he's a renaissance man.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
It's more or less.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
What I'm trying to say is he's all over the
place and it's one of those things that's really endearing.
And I think he's incredibly charming in that in that sense,
because I feel like a lot of us can imbue
ourselves within a lot of the like films he's in
and just you know, see yourself and a role similar
to his I don't know, that's how I feel about it, so.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
And he talks Chris.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Yeah, I also had a hard time answering this question.
I mean, Nathan, I think you're right. I've seen you know.
I would say he's a I would say he's as
a good steward of being a leading man type and
like being very humble about it. You've kind of alluded
to that a little bit, Nathan, like he's a he
seems like a very down to.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Earth person and humility to him.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Yeah, which like for someone like himself who has look
amazingly good looking and like all Forbes, be it long hair,
Colin Ferrell's short hair, Colin Farrell with or without facial hair,
playing a duller, not playing a duller like Colin Ferrell
is just a good looking human being. And it tends
to seem that people that are like that tend to
think very highly of themselves, and Colin Ferrell doesn't seem

(51:57):
to be in that camp. He seems to be a
very down to earth, humble human being. So no, I
would agree with that one hundred percent. I think my
answer the thing that I kind of scraped together was
I think he also paved the way for certain kind
of genre films to maybe be taken a little bit
more seriously by more of these. I would say elevated

(52:21):
actors because I think, like we've already alluded to, Colin
Ferrell is a actor with a capital A who also
just happened to play the fucking penguin in the last
Batman movie, which again, like that right, Like that's for me.
I think Colin Ferrell is an actor who to your point,
he's a very naturalistic actor. His the reality of who
he is comes through in the roles, but he can

(52:43):
also really elevate something that, for all intents and purposes,
Jerry Dandridge in Fright Night twenty eleven should not have
been nearly as charismatic as he is, but he is
because Colin Ferrell is just a charismatic guy. Penguin in
the New Batman movie could have been a fucking afterthought,
and he was not an afterthought at all, to the
point where he has his own show now and Colin

(53:04):
Ferrell is in the show in makeup the entire time.
I mean, like the kind of makeup that you think
about when you think of like a full prosthetic, like
eight hours in a chair type thing, so that I mean,
I just think Colin Ferrell, to your point, elevates everything
that he's in, which is not the case for every
actor with a capital A. Sometimes an actor with a

(53:25):
capital A has to be the center of attention and
the things that they're in, and Colin Ferrell does not
strike me as that type, which goes hand in hand
with his humility. So Ryan, what about you? Do you
have an easy answer here or are you kind of
doing what we did and looking for things?

Speaker 1 (53:42):
I had two things and one of them was really weird,
but I wanted to throw this out there and just
mention it for a moment. So I wanted to say,
in a world of prudes, which this is not about
a sexual thing necessarily, but in a world of prudes
where of the last twenty five years we've seen this
return to a very like too proper of individual. I've

(54:04):
always respected that he is very, very real and will
speak his mind and not shy away from using real
life language, which is something that most stars do. I
think it's important to point that out, Like I don't
think it's class list that he cusses and interviews like
that's no big deal. I think it's something that we
should do, and as long as it's something that is

(54:25):
done properly, Like I'm tired of the censorship. But anyways,
my preach, brother preach.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
But don't say man.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Yeah, don't use pejoratives though, because if you do, that's
what my dad would always say, don't use pejoratives. Hey,
guess what if you can say fuck and make it entertaining,
I don't want to hear what you have to say.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
If you're boring, if you're saying, if you're saying that, becon,
it's different becan.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Yeah, how is that movie rated? Are they never say fuck? Once?

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Okay, feckin? So that's the thing. If it's not about
what they're saying or what they're not saying, then you
don't rate the movie. Are mpaa? But hey, MPAA is
about his a each as well as milk at this point,
So throw those fuckers out in the trash two while
we're at it, please and thank you.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
The other thing we did mention the Batman. I really
got to throw out that the biggest thing for me
is that he was in a major comic book movie
and to have somebody that is like a capital A
actor like you just said, in a film like this
is not unheard of. But he brought something else to
this in a way that people seem to respect a
lot more for this type of a film. And I

(55:26):
think it brought a lot more attention to the actual
makeup effects, which is something that somebody in his position
normally wouldn't get to do. When you are a pretty
boy actor in Hollywood. You don't cover that shit up
with six and a half hours of latex. That is
something that they get pissed off if you even mentioned
that it's a possibility, And instead he emboldened it and

(55:48):
made it so much more to be like, fuck, yeah,
I'm gonna be popular, Let's make a TV show out
of it, and I want to executive produce the entire thing.
Like he embraced it in a way that you like,
Brad Pitt never would have on that shit. It's not
something that he would be openly willing to say, Oh,
a character that I did so much makeup for, let's
do a full TV show. Hell No, that they would

(56:09):
never let him do that. And so something about him
and his ability to subject himself to that and embrace
something is so I hate to use a word like noble,
but it's something that's just authentic that I respect the
ever living hell out of.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Isn't it ironic that the movie that has Colin Farrell
under a ton of makeup also has Andy Serkis in
a live action role. I'm just putting that out there
for the world because let's just point the other thing
out again. Another director. We don't have enough movies to
do an episode on, but Matt Reeves, my friends is
I mean, look personal personals aside, Matt Reeves is the

(56:52):
director of my favorite Planet of the Apes movie and
the best, the best modern Batman movie post nineteen eighty nine. Haha.
See I did it again. I made a bullshit ism
that you can go with, which is nineteen eighty nine
is amazing, and so is the new movie. But everything
in between, eh, not so much. And to your point,
I'm glad you didn't mention Tom Cruise because he's the

(57:14):
only other actor I can think of who's done the
whole other than Robert Daddy Junior. I guess, but same movie,
so you could throw him in with the same bathwater.
But those two actors, three actors going under the amount
of makeup, and Tom Cruise obviously in Tropic Thunder, like
doing that was an intentional thing. Yeah, but like who
does that when you're that guy, Tom Cruise? Who does

(57:36):
it when you're Colin Farrell? Colin Farrell does Johnny Hardward.
I told you, oh, you know what, he succeeded at
making the movie a lot weirder than it needed to be,
and it was already about a human walrus.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Yeah. The hard part about Tom Cruise in that role
is he's literally only in that for like four and
a half minutes. It's basically a glorified cameo.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
But he's the part of that rate everybody remembers though
right well he is.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
I would argue, I'm not taking it away from him.
I understand that it took a lot to do that,
and I think that it's great. It's just not like
Colin Ferrell plays a major role.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Yeah, oh yeah, I agree, And Colin Ferrell is the
penguin is inspired casting by Matt Reeves and also to
your point, uglaying up big time. I mean Tom Cruise
essentially had like, you know, a bald cap on and
those fat hands. The hands always cracked me up. That
there's like giant hands that he's wearing. But yeah, Colin Farrell.
If you had seen Colin Ferrell in other things and

(58:32):
someone didn't tell you he was in The Batman, the
makeup is so good, you wouldn't know, Like Johnny Depp
in Tusk, like it still kind of looks like Johnny Depp.
He doesn't look like Colin Farrell in The Batman at all.
And that's kind of the point too.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
That reminds me when I watched The Batman, I was
watching with some friends, like the second time, because I
watched it in theaters and then wash it with some
friends and one of them was like, is that Colin Ferrell,
Like after like a good thirty minutes of him being
on screen, And that's how good that makeup is. I mean,
just to your point, but also yeah, it's this is

(59:10):
just a great movie. It reminds me of the nineties
Batman cartoon, which is honestly like you know, peek Batman.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
So the pinnacle.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Yeah, he doesn't get in the way either, that's the thing,
like he doesn't. You know, Tom Cruise in Tropic Thunder
kind of steals the show because that's Tom Cruise, but
also like we've never seen him do that. Colin Ferrell
doesn't make the movie about him, and he could have,
but like, he's really good in the movie. It's just
he doesn't get in the way of everything else. He's
kind of perfectly part and parcel with everything else. I'm

(59:40):
actually mad at myself. It took me a long time
to watch the New Batman movie because everybody that I
had talked to for the most part, and Ryan's not
in this campany more than you are, Nathan, a lot
of people I knew said that movie was really boring,
which they probably would have said the same thing about Zodiac,
which I feel like the Batman and Zodiac are almost
like I mean again, they're almost similar movies, except in

(01:00:03):
the Batman we kind of get, we sort of get
a climax. But anyways, beside the point, we're not doing
a Batman episode. But yeah, Colin Ferrell doesn't doesn't get
in the way of everything lake like you would assume
he might.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Yeah, well, we are going into our last question, which
means we're going to talk about other actors. So before
we do that titles, Nathan, you want to throw out
anything else that we didn't cover before we get to
that part.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Well, I know we talked about you know the Orgost movies.
You know, A really good one that I think is
not really talked about too much is The Beguiled Sophia
Normals movie with Nicole Kidman, Chris Kirsten Dunson, Ala Fanning.
It's a pretty fun movie. It's a civil war movie.
It's an interesting one. It's definitely worth a watch. Another one,

(01:00:54):
I would argue, the last one I will say is
The New World. I actually really love this film, the
Terrence Malick film, and I think a lot of people
when this came out, it definitely a lot of people
it was like a bait and switch kind of thing, like, oh,
it's live action poke honess right, well, like yes, but
also no. But at the same time, like, you know,

(01:01:16):
this is obviously a visual feast of a film. Is
Terrence Mallick movie. But I actually think Colin Ferrel does
great in this movie. And yeah, honestly it's him and
I can never say her name correctly?

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Orianka Filcher? A great film, slept on a lot. I
think a lot of people need to watch The New
World and revisit this movie so.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Well as somebody that is so steeped into mister Colin Ferrell.
I am dying to hear who you're going to answer
for this one. So our question number four is going
to beat what is a cinematic bridge to mister Colin Ferrell?
In other words, what is something that a listener could
be a fan of already that would indicate that they
may love the filmography mister cal and Feral.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
So I didn't know how to answer this specifically, so
I kind of went in two different directions. I thought
about other films that are akin to just the filmography
of Colin Ferrell. And that's kind of where I'm like,
if I'm thinking of this as like an amalbum of
all these things and put it together, like what would

(01:02:24):
be a good representation of somebody that would, you know,
watch something akin to the things we've mentioned.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
And the one that came to my mind was Paris, Texas.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
And I don't necessarily know why, but for it's more
of that realistic feeling that I think that we've kind
of alluded to a lot with a lot of our
discussions in terms of just life happening, and honestly, like
in a lot of his films, he just does not
want to be around anymore, or he doesn't want to

(01:02:55):
be in that situation. He wants to you know, either
run away or you know, uh settle with with you know,
alcohol or addiction of some sort, but you know, him
kind of coming together and face you know something that
he I don't know if anyone's seen Parent Sextors, you
both Parapectors? Yeah, okay, Well, Paris Tex is about real

(01:03:21):
quick synopsis is about a man who has disappeared or
I think fin years.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
I think that's how long he was gone.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
I don't remember the exact timeline, but it was quite
some time. And uh, he walks back, you know, into
his life. Literally he just walks back from a desert
back into his life, and everyone who knew him is
just gobsmacked by like like what happened? Like why did
you just walk away? And uh, it deals with the

(01:03:55):
repercussions of that so without really getting into the details
of it and and dealing with surrealistic scenarios with you know,
with people, and honestly, this is very relatable to today's world.
But where I feel like everyone is as constantly you know,
you need to be out attention for something. You know,
you always got to be notified for something. You know

(01:04:17):
that this is something where it's like I just want
to escape, I just want to run away. And with
Colin Ferrell's filmography, that's where I feel like with a
lot of his films. But it was a weird It's
an interesting question. I don't know where the link is,
but I feel like if anyone watches this movie, they
could get a sense for at least this more serious
roles of Colin Ferrell, the ones that are the ones

(01:04:39):
that where people can kind of put themselves in the
shoes of you know, someone like Hardy Harrydan Stanton's character
in this movie and really just empathize with somebody who
is like, you know, this is this is a reflection
of reality, is a reflection of life and you know
the you know, the ship that we all go through.

(01:05:02):
And that's kind of how I feel about it. So
did that makes sense that Ryan?

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
At least it does. Yeah, this this is a solid,
solid pick, not one I would have jumped to, for sure.
This is a really interesting idea and the yeah, like
the realism is certainly a fun road to go down
to to choose something like this and to get a
film like this, Yeah, this is one that I mean,

(01:05:29):
you've got some dry comedy in it. You've got some
good drama, You've got the realistic characters, You've got a
myriad of romance, really great emotions. Yeah, exactly. And to cover,
to cover such a wide filmography like Colin Frills, it
has to be something like this. So yeah, this is
this is an epical good job, Thank you watch it.

(01:05:50):
What is the other path that you were thinking about?

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
The other path I was thinking was inside Lewin Davis,
which is more that Coen Brothers kind of comedic, kind
of tragic, like just curmudgeon that Colin Ferrell is in
almost everything he's at. He's just like I don't want
to I don't want to do this thing, but also
massively talented, just like just like you know Auscar Isaac's
character in this movie. And that's kind of where the

(01:06:13):
other side of it is, Like you got the serious
side of Colin Ferrell, and then you got the comedic
side the curmudgeon also down on his luck, but also
can have a good laugh about the shit that happens
in his life. So that's what I was feeling.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
So that's a great movie. I love that pool. That's
a solid one. Chris, what are you thinking for this.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
So I went the obvious route, I guess, of picking
another actor, and we talked about, you know, the naturalism
of Colin Ferrell, and also Colin Ferrell being a humble person,
which I think is definitely included in the reasoning why
I picked this gentleman. But if you are someone who

(01:06:56):
finds yourself gravitating towards or enjoying films by Paul Newman,
you might enjoy Colin Ferrell. And I think there's a
naturalistic quality to them as actors that I mean, we
use the word naturalistic to mean, at least my terminology
like this just feels like they are preter naturally gifted

(01:07:16):
at doing this and they make what is hard look easy.
And that's naturalistic because again, like it doesn't look like
you're acting, but I know that you are. And that's
I mean. I think about Paul Newman when I think
about that those terms being used, and I think of
Colin Ferrell the same way You've already kind of alluded
to it, Nathan, But the idea of it's always not

(01:07:37):
it's always Colin Ferrell himself, but he injects a lot
of who he is into what he's doing, and he
doesn't let who he is personally get in the way
of what he's doing professionally, but it allows it. But
who he is personally informs his professional decisions, and it
also informs the greater public as to who he is

(01:07:58):
as a person. And not every actor is like that.
There are plenty of actors that just I go act,
I come home. There's nothing, you know, there is a
compartmentalization there. I'm not saying Paul Newman was the same
person on screen that he was in person, but it
seemed like it came natural to mister Newman. I think
it comes natural to Colin Ferrell as well. And Paul

(01:08:18):
Newman also did a lot of mainstream stuff and a
lot of not mainstream stuff as well. I mean, there's
a whole generation of people that know Paul Newman only
by his voice in cars, and you know, there will
be a whole group of people that only know Colin
Farrell as the Penguin. And that's perfectly fine, because if
that's the you know, that's what we're doing here is

(01:08:40):
it's perfectly fine to know someone from a mainstream thing
and then find the less mainstream things that they've done
through that mainstream thing. And if someone tells you otherwise,
tell that person to kindly go fuck themselves, because that's
not what we're doing here. If you love Colin Ferrell
from The Batman, you should be allowed to go watch
his other things. It doesn't have to be the other
way around. And I feel the same way about Paul Newman.

(01:09:02):
If someone went I've only seen him in cars, I
wouldn't go, oh my god, what's wrong with you? I'd say, Okay, well,
here are the other more mainstreamy things that he was
in verging into, the less mainstream and the more kind
of actor with a capital A. But for me, Paul
Newman is kind of the choice Nathan, though I do
like you your second choice, I think anything, the fact

(01:09:24):
that we haven't had Cohen Brothers and Colin Farrell working
together is the shock of the century, given how naturalistic
everything that the three of those people and the two
of them and the one together tend to be is surprising.
And again given the Martin McDonough having worked with Francis
McDorman thing, you would think maybe Martin McDonough would say

(01:09:45):
something to someone that then would get to the Cohen
Brothers to say, Colin Ferrell needs to be in one
of your movies. Hasn't happened yet, may never happen. But yeah,
that's my choice. What do you guys think.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
I think it's a good pull to go. I'm onto
that I wanted to throw out earlier when you mentioned Zodiac,
all I could think was, could you imagine Colin Ferrell
in a prime Fincher movie? Oh yeah, yeah, oh wow, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
Well after seeing Batman, that's what Colin Ferrell could have
played Batman like that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
I mean, that's like, I mean again, like he can
do a really good I mean again, depending on your opinion,
a passable American accent, and you know, I think I
think you know, he's got the dark and brooding down
that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
I think it's depends on the era of Colin Ferrell.
Could have been like it could have been like a
Georgia Blooney type Batman, or it could have been more
the Robert for sure a Batman.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
Well, speaking of Batman, funny enough that you mentioned your
your choice there, Chris, because we're we're going down a
similar name path. I was thinking of Batman and I
was noticing some similarities with some filmographies, and my choice
for this is actually Paul Dano. I think if you
look back through his filmography, he is making wide and interesting,

(01:11:15):
quirky choices like Colin Ferrell does. He doesn't have a
ton of genre films, but when he goes there on
drama films or in some of his genre stuff that
he's done, it is affecting, It is emotional, It is
performances that you go, holy shit, this guy is bringing

(01:11:35):
gravitas to a film that could have failed with someone
else in this role. You know, I think back to
something like Paul Dano and Prisoners and think, this is
the kind of performance that like Colin Ferrell, would give
if needed to, in one of these. And Paul Dano
has played like the cute guy in a handful of
movies that easily he has look at look at big filmography.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
He's the third of the fucking tripod, is what he is. Okay, Yeah,
I love Little I'm Talking Girl next Door where he
plays the Carrolls. What you're thinking, Yeah, same guy who
four years later is in one of my favorite movies
there Blood, so you know, there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
But I mean he makes he makes some of these
odd choices, like he's in Cowboys and Aliens, like randomly
in the middle of his filmography, he's in a movie
like that, and Colin Ferrell's got choices like that, and
then he makes interesting choices like Looper or Ruby Sparks
or even right after that Twelve Years of Slave, that
you're like, this is a filmography, like this is somebody
that is making their history in cinema and making great

(01:12:43):
choices along the way. And something about the performances, they
just seem similar to me. And obviously, you know, Paul
Dano doesn't necessarily have the brooding hero face that you
would expect for somebody that's comparing to Colin Ferrell. But
really the acting is what I want to get to,
is that every single scene that this person is in,
even in something like Little the Sunshine, Paul Dano steals

(01:13:05):
every scene and in half that movie's fucking mute. Like
we talked about earlier, he is somebody that you cut
out his tongue, and he's somebody that, somehow, still while
scribbling on a notepad, makes you empathize with him incredibly
deeply because of what his desires are, and he one
screamed word fuck makes you really feel for his character.

(01:13:27):
And and somebody like Colin Ferrell, I think is very
similar in that regard.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Yeah, I would agree, that's a good pick. That's a
very good pick. And someone who's I guess he's what
a little younger than Colin Farrell, because I think Paul
Dano is in our age effectively, like he's like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
L he's forty ish right now.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
Yeah, yeah, I think yeah, around forty yeah, and then
mid mid they're.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Not even they haven't even entered their prime as activities theoretically,
Like that's that's the thing, Like, we're doing this show now,
and there's a distinct possibility that ten years from now
we would do an episode about Colin Ferrell and have
different answers because ten years ago my answer would have
been in Bruges and now it is Banshee's because of

(01:14:16):
the body of work getting better, trending upward overall, which
I mean again, as an actor, I would assume that's
your goal is to be better at everything that you're
in and not rest on your laurels. But that would
be my assumption here, not the reality that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Everyone popible of those actors.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Hey man, yeah, listen up, guys. Take it for me.
Someone who's never sat foot in front of a camera
for more than five seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
You're right, well, I mean incredible discussion tonight. This has
been a hell of a lot of fun. Nathan, Why
don't let everybody know where they can find you on
social media and anything you want to promote.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
Yeah, so you can find me at specifically Blu Rays
at Nathan Jones. Uh, that is my YouTube channel. I'm
on there pretty frequently. Hopefully by this time I will
be more frequent, and I'm sure around this time as well,
I'll be getting into probably some thematic uh you know,

(01:15:23):
a thing right before you know, the spooky season comes up,
and so I'm definitely gonna be, you know, churning up
for that. So that's going to be really exciting and
probably gonna get you a mix.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Of old will Again. Thanks tonight, Chris saying to you
want to highlight before we head out for the night.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
No, Yeah, you know patreon dot com slash culture cast
and patreon dot com slash Projection Booth is where you
can go to find the only thing that can't be
found a weirding way media, which is ranking on Bond
where you talk about James Bond once a month Richard
had him who co wrote, speaking of all the matt
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with Matt Reeves, him and I and Mike White at
the Projection booth talk about Bond once a month, which

(01:16:01):
is as much fun as it is to do as
it is I'm sure to listen to. So if you
want to get in on that, that's where you can go.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
What about you, Ryan, Well, there are all kinds of
films that have been announced for physical media with someone's
favorite productions and people from our company attached to it
this year. I will just say, if you have only
been starting to dabble into physical media or have never
been involved in it, I think it's a great time
to check some of these out. If you go to

(01:16:28):
the diiscconnected dot com, you got a list of all
those titles and I would be happy, happy to point
you to the direction of anymore because we have a
shit ton coming out, happy to talk about those at
any point, So just just shoot me a message. We
can point you to any of those. Everybody, please, If
you've never seen a Colin Farrell film, you got lots
to choose from. There are so many great options out there.

(01:16:51):
Nathan thanks again for doing this, and as usual, to
everybody out there, we hope you check out the next
episode of Film Foundations and continue to push the boundaries
of your interest until

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