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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello everyone, and welcome back to The Advisor. I am
co host Lisa Urbanski. Super excited to talk to our
guests today. She has a show on our channel. Her
name is Elizabeth. Elizabeth is passionate about people and loves
him feeling great. She lives in Sydney with her four
adult children, Wow four children. She graduated with a commerce
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degree and later completed a diploma in education. Today she's
an active mentor and spokeswoman. She also spends her time
enjoying yoga, meditation, painting, writing, traveling, and cherishes time with
their family. I knew there was a reason I liked
her from the start. Through her writing and paintings, Elizabeth
hopes to share tools to live an authentic life filled
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with purpose, excellent health, and joy. So Elizabeth Jane is
the author of Free and First Unlocking Your Ultimate Life.
We're going to be talking about that today, which you
can purchase on Amazon. On the last two shows, if
you did not have the opportunity to check them out,
I highly recommend you do. On the very first episode,
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Elizabeth talks about the happiness hacks to overcome life's obstacles,
and then on the last show, she dove into the
joyful living, embracing happiness, so all of the things that
you know, the current world is speaking about right now.
And before we get started and I give her the floor,
I just want to thank our sponsor, speaker and iHeartRadio.
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Without you, this would not be possible. Welcome to the show, Elizabeth.
How are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Oh, thank you so much, Licy.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I'm great, it's beautiful, it's sunny here in Sydney, Australia,
and looking forward to Chane you and your audience.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yes, it's amazing, Yes, I love it. So we're talking
today about forgiveness.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yes, yes, well I think to really lift ourselves up,
we have to forgive.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
And I remember in the early days when when my
marriage brot down.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
And it's the hardest thing to forgive. And then I
started to realize that I really I just couldn't move on.
I you know, you've sort of chained to the past,
and you're sort of your vibes kept down and low,
and you sort of you're holding onto these resentments in
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your physical body, and it's just it's just not good
for you.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I think that we really need to you know, in
the early days I used to fake it until I
make it.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
You know, it's time.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Just just fake it, just fake forgiveness, fake you.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Know, so you chained on and you.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Can move on and life will be brighter and we
can you know, new opportunities, new people. But we have
to shut that door on the past to know that,
and and the hurt and the shock of that people
go through.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
It's especially in the early.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Days, it's just so hard to I feel from experience
to actually forgive them. But I think the thing is
if you look at it this way, that if you
if you look at it that if you don't forgive,
you're just going to be kept.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
In the past and you're not.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Condoning their behavior. You don't have, but you're just forgiving.
For you really to selfish act in a way because
it lifts you up.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
So yeah, yeah, you know, there's a saying that I love,
like I absolutely loved so much. He who angers you
controls you. You can replace the word anger with any emotion.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
And it fits.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
And when you allow someone else your power, it holds
you back and it gives them control. And when you
take that control back and you offer forgiveness, it frees you.
So I love what you're saying like it's like keeping
you in the past.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yes, that's so true. This is what you said. I
really totally agree with that.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
That you know, we reclaim our power, you know, is
a manner of.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Not allowing others words to affect us because.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
They're doing the best that they can.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
From they're never of understanding and if we're banging our
heads against the wall trying to get them to understand
the avenue.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Point, we may never get it. Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
It often gets I think stuck, or I do in
my ego, you know, wanting.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
To be right, you know, lots of the idea of
being rushed.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
But when we can put that aside and just say,
well I forgive.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
The forgiveness just is the best way, the best way
out and to better thing.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Mm hm. You know you mentioned something really powerful at
the beginning, and I think our listeners and our viewers
are dying to know. So you went through a really,
really tough period by going through a divorce and you
talked about forgivement. So what was that process like and
what did that look for you? And do you mind
sharing that?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
No, no, not at all. It was it was it
was a period where.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I really had to pull out all the tools to
lift myself up because I was I felt I was
in a lot of shock because I didn't really see
this divorce happening coming.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
And I had five years.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
In my roles as mother and wife, and so I
decided I always liked up with two people.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So I decided to write down in my life in.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
My phone, actually all the things, all the tools and
techniques that were helping me to.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Get myself out of bed in the morning, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
So I was very fortunate that I had been traveling
to India and I had spent a lot of time
alone time, and it gave me the opportunity to start painting,
which was one way of helping to process the trauma,
helping to process shock.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
And I really love talking about.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Hobbies and how hobbies, no matter what they are, start collecting.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Whatever it is, chess, whatever the hobby is that.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
You can spend even ten minutes a day on helps
you be in the present and mindful, and it's actually
doing wonderful work helping you process your trauma and your
pain from a.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Whether it's from a divorce, or whether it's.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
From a healing from a health challenge, or whether it's
from a financial challenge, and reality is lest So some
people have got those three baskets. So I wrote my
book that you can apply it to sort of any
challenge that you may be faced with and see that
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challenge as an opportunity, which it really is. You can't
see it at the times. I don't know why have
I got this big challenge coming at me? But if
we can sort of stand back from it and come,
what's the lesson here?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And maybe if I.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Learned something, this sort of obstacle be coming at me
so much.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
If I consider.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Learn from this experience, then I may not have that
challenge coming to me. So I started to write this
book as tools and tips to help people whatever they
were going through. And that's where my book evolved. And
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there's a massive chapter of forgiveness.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
There's a whole.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Chapter dedicated to forgiveness because it's forgiveness and gratitude is
just something that will lift us up. And as we
lift up, well, then we attract high vibe opportunities and
people into our lives. But when we get stuck, it's
sort of stuck in this bit likes being stuck.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
In the mud, you know, we sort of we can't.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Really move forward until we can let God.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, yeah, I love that, And I love that you
say hi. When you're on a higher vibration and you're
energetically lifted, you attract that into your world. And so
I'm all about the manifestation and I'm all about, you know,
getting in the things that you know I'm kind of
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putting out there. And when you hold yourself at a
high vibration, yeah, it's beautiful the things that start coming in.
And you know, forgiveness and gratitude and love and peace
are all on that high vibration. And so how important
is it to you know, rid of those negative right,
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maybe a difficult I don't like to use the word negative.
Difficult emotions, you know, jealous, the fear, read, all of
those things, and you know when we hold grudges and
stuff that just holds us back.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yes, I totally agree. I'm actually illustrating a children's book at.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
The moment, and I've got, you know, a family of
Koala bears and they're all there's hot air balloons and
so they're saying.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Bye bye sadness.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
You know, they're sort of waving good bye or a
head that sort of keep us down and everyone has
got the that's our birthtright is to be happy and
healthy and joy forward, and it can get and we
don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Sometimes we don't even know how we are feeling. That's
the problem.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
That's a really obstacle, Lisa, I think, and I write
a whole three chapters on this, in that we get
so busy with our lives, whether we're busy, working, family,
you even, you know, like we get so busy, and
that what that stops us from feeling how we feel.
And we can't feel how we feel when we don't
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know what we need to let go of. We don't
know what we need and we can't put boundaries in
place because so you know, like I was, I felt fine,
you know, like you know, in the marriage, I thought
I was meeting my needs. No, I was meeting everyone
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else's needs. I was meeting my husband's needs and my
four children very well. And I was just sidestepping on
what I needed because I hadn't slowed down.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Busy busy, you know, it was busy, busy looking after.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Five people, four very young children that grew to well we're.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Not children anymore.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
But the problem is until we can she stopped and
feel how we feel.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
We're not in that position to free ourselves by setting
boundaries and.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Being free, you know, like as I think Charlie Chaplin's
quoted in My Will, I know Charlie Chaplin's.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Quoted in my book.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
You know, problem with humanity they think too much and
they feel too little.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
So how we feel is our power.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Really, If we're feeling and we can express how we feel,
we're in our authentic super super power self I feel,
and then we're free. Because if we've got that self
worth to stand up to stand up for what we need,
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then then it's just a matter of practicing, practicing standing
up and expressing what we need and having an having
the courage, because it takes a lot of courage.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I found I would always fall down.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
And practice, you know, even if it's practicing is asking
about the toothpaste flead, it doesn't really matter, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
But just putting your what you want and what you
need first. Hence my book Free and First.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
We can't be free unless we are starting to put
ourselves in our needs first.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I feel it's very important.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, I feel like that might be the most important thing.
And I love how like in this day and age,
it's so much more easy to talk about it with people.
I know, like thirty years ago, you know, people didn't
openly talk about emotions and feelings and it was more
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like keep that under the rug and anxiety and all
of that stuff. And now you know, the world is
going is trending more to an authenticity world like you
talk about, and where we show up as we are.
We prioritize ourselves first. It's not selfish to, you know,
put my needs before my families because I'm making sure
I can show up for myself so I can show
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up for them at my best. And I really really
think that, like your book is brilliant in that way
that it is showing people how to do that, how
to show up for themselves. So let's talk about your book.
Can you kind of walk us through, like what it
is that you're delivering? What are you? What are people?
What can people expect?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Okay? So, so, so.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
What I hope that the reader will get out of
my book is to be able to have fully or
start to be fully stepping into their power so that
they can be the leader of their life and not
be down into our thoughts. Because when we get caught
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up in our thoughts. We often are not in a
good way because you know, we're thinking things the past,
the shame, the blame, the regret, or I could have,
would have, should have, the milk's spilt. No, that's that's gone,
and the future. As often people will get lost, whether
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they're knowingly or unknowingly, because we've got sixty thousand thoughts
a day or something.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Someone said, we've got sixty.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
We can't keep track of all our thoughts, but we
can keep track of how we feel. And if we're
feeling yuck, it's often because we've gone there. We've gone
into the past, should have, would have, could have, shamed, blame, blah,
or we've gone.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Into the future.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
We're not going to give what's going to happen the future,
and it pluts this down, keeps us down. So what
I in the early days, I would just make a
point of going, Okay, i'm not feeling good. I am
going to get into the now. I'm going to feel
my senses and pop back into the now. So in
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my book, there's a whole three chapters on the A,
B C of me? So what is Because if you
can't do A B C, can't be free that's what
I feel. So A maybe it's my primary school teacher training.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
So in terms of it's just nice to keep it
simple because I remember being.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Handled a book on boundaries and it was just so profuse,
and I was going, I can't be bothered with this,
so I wanted to have tools and tips to lift
up quickly, you know, quick fixes. I'm feeling good in
my book. So going back to the A, B, C
of me is a knowledge allow and accept how we feel.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
A knowledge allows.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
How we feel, so we need to stop and we
need to feel how we feel. And then B is
the setting of boundaries, and the whole chapter dedicated to
how we can set boundaries and see is the communication
and so, and then there's a whole chapter on gratitude
and self worth because of course we're not going to
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step up find someone who will step up to say
what's bothering them and set boundaries if they're not feeling
good about themselves.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
You know, if we don't feel good about themselves and know,
oh question, and I can't see that.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
My husband might leave me, my children will think I'm
being bossy. All my friends they're just not going to
hang around me if I'm just always about what I
need and how you know. But as you said, it's
not selfish, it's first it's self. And as we lift up,
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we lived up. And then guess what, every time we
think of our children, every time we think of our families,
they get to lift up as well.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So that's the beauty of it.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
If you can't do it for yourself, That's what I
said to myself, because often I'm thinking of for children,
And if you can't do it.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
For yourself, do it for children, do it for you,
do it for your parents, do it for your friends.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
And so slowly I started to put myself first and
I started to feel the benefits of it.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
And so the book has got it's quite systematic.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
It's got nice little summaries and my paintings that came
in available to be purchased online. And the paintings came
in at the same time to support the topics that
I was talking about in the book. So there's a
painting effort as a oh God, I think my way's
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this one a lighthouse, and the lighthouse is it's a
struggling tugboat trying to rescue one boat on the water.
And then there's the lighthouse, and the lighthouse is just
sitting there in.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Its power, in its power and being able to help
all the boats effortlessly.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Whereas if we're rescuing and you know, like we're on
we're wearing ourselves out, we're putting ourselves last, we're rescuing
others and trying to be there for everyone else. It's exhausting,
and it's going to do nothing for yourself and nothing
for those of you. Love.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, one hundred percent, I love that. What a brilliant
book to write. And it must have been so cathartic
for you after going through the things you did with
your divorce and relationship to be able to turn that
experience into something that can affect and help so many
other people.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Oh, thank you, Lisa, Yes, ma'am. It just brings me
so much joy. You know, like just like to handle
book to someone who's going through a challenge and just
to say just start just baby steps each day, because
I know in the early stages when you when you
face with whatever shock or trauma that you're faced with,
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you really need to I felt, you really need to
break it down. You know, you just need to sort
of not expect so much, be kind, to yourself, you know.
So you know, like we can't find Mount Everest in
a day, and we really we need to enjoy the journey.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
We need to be.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Kind to ourselves and appreciate the view as we as
we journey through life.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
And if we go back three steps repe you know, like, Okay,
I fell off the wagon.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I sort of started, you know, drinking too much or
spending too much or whatever whatever it is that holds
you back.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
The guilt is will hold you down.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
But forgive yourself, forgive yourself, you know, the forgiveness we go.
We started on the theme forgiveness. The most important thing
is to forgive yourself. It's a three way forgiveness thing.
I don't know if you've come across, if you come
across Hoper Pono, Lisa.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I have not, but I'm intrigued. Tell us more.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
The hope of Pono is it's in my book and
it's a forgiveness mantra. It's it's just like four simple lines,
I'm sorry, please forgive me, and thank you, I love you.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
And there's so much online, so much on.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
YouTube, different sort of versions of it. That it was
started with a psychiatrist who started repeating these words to
his three insane patients, two for himself to heal himself.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And then he found that he was really assisting.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
His patients as well, because once he started to sort himself,
that's all we really can do.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
We can't change others.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
You can just start to really sort ourselves and light
an a low and so yonos are really it can
you can find yourself getting quite.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Emotional with it. Actually it surprised me. It's not how
could this little lato be so powerful?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
But really it's worth giving it a go, especially if
it's the early stage.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Is you can actually free up, free up everyone who's
involved in me the resentment. Yeah, help everyone feel better?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yes, yes, So I guess I want to ask you
this question, how do you heal like broken friendships and relationships?
And like if somewhere were to ask you, how do
I heal my broken friendship? Like what would you tell them?
And what would their first step be in your experience,
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like in your book, like what would you illustrate?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Okay, So, so the main thing I think.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Sometimes it will be too hard for many people to
face the person physically who they might want to forgive.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Especially in the early days.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
It can be too traumatic and too different, and so
even if they can visualize it, visualize forgiving them without
actually being face to face with them, that is a start.
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But I think also realizing that we're all on our
own journey and we really need to put our ego
aside and go well, they may never reciprocate this forgiveness,
but I'm doing it for me. When you realize that
you're doing it for yourself and for your family, it
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becomes a lot easier.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
It doesn't mean, as I've.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Said before, doesn't mean we're condoning their misbehavior, but it's
recognizing that perhaps they are doing the best that they can.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
This helped me.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Perhaps they are doing the best they can at the
level of understanding that they're at. Now, we're all on
our journey. You know. My guru in India would say, okay,
for some people at university and some people at pre school,
But when your preschooler has a tantrum and you don't
expect them to behave like they're at university, you love them.
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You love them for what they are at the level
that they're at, and you don't try and change and
you just go, well, that is where they're at. That
is where they're at. I can love them from where
they're at. I can have compassion that they're trying the
best that they can. But I know for me to
move on, and I deserve to move on.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I deserve to be.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Able to be lifted up into into a higher vibration
and to be able to attract better opportunities. So I'm
doing this for me. I'm not doing it for the
other person. And I think that that really helped me
to realize that we're not all at the same level
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of consciousness. We're not, We're all at different levels. We're
all doing the best that we can the level that
we've entered this planet at, really, and that really helped
me see through the eyes of compassion the people around
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me who had so called wronged me. But then now
I even look back. This is the interesting thing in
this So when you you know, you can look I
look back, and I'm so thankful to my my ex husband.
I'm so thankful for him because he gave me that
challenge and that was kindlewood to be able to lift up.
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If he hadn't pushed me through that trauma, I would
never have been able to find myself and put myself first.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
And become the leader of my life. If I would
have stayed.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
In my roles as putting my children first, putting my
husband first, and being I thought I was happy being.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Not leading my life. It's the children were happy, my
husband was happy. I was happy. But then I started.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
But thankfully because of my husband getting you know, delivering
what he did deliver in terms of wanting a divorce,
that was the kindlewood that allowed me to free myself.
And so when we can look at an obstacle or
challenge and go, okay, let's stand back from this challenge
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rather than we act and blow it up into a
bigger bomb of negative energy. Okay, oh this is interesting.
What what am I meant to learn here? What what
boundary didn't I have in place to get this disrespect
coming to me?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
What is it? Because who is it?
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Because I'm not respecting myself, Maybe I'm getting his life
I believe I feel is a mirror. So if someone
is disrespecting you, it's often most likely we are not
respecting ourselves. So and to really and our relationships around
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us as sort of like they really help us the
great assistance because if they're not going well, we really
have to look internally at our internal landscape to get
the reflection of the external landscape in a better form.
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Once we get our stuff together, once we get our
ship together, the world starts.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
To look brighter.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
And we have to be patient with ourselves. We have
to be vulnerable with expressing our feelings, and we have
to have courage, massive courage, especially if we're people plasing
like that was, you know, live sort of background. We
have to have courage because we think we've been really
bossy or we think we're going to lose everyone around
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us if we step back.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Into you know, an affirm what we need.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yes, yes, I knew. I knew there was a reason
that I felt connected to you and I was looking
through your website and reading about your book. I'm a
true believer, like one hundred percent that the reason we
have difficult seasons is to you know, kind of prepare
us for the next big thing that our life, the
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universe is bringing us. So I agree with everything you
just said and that each negative, difficult season is an
opportunity for growth and to move more into the uni
is into like our power and where we need to
be and what we're ready for. If there are things
that you know I went through. If I was still
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stuck there, I wouldn't have seen the light and I
wouldn't be where I am today. So yeah, what a
brilliant way of looking at that.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Oh thank you.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yes, it's I just think, you know, like it can
get there's so much thankfully, Thankfully.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
The last I've really single change.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
As you've mentioned before, in the last twenty years, we're
really I think, you know, we're all stepping up and
realizing the importance of authenticity. And I know, I've got
my children and they're going for interviews and you know,
I used to say just for yourself, you know, just
for yourself, But I think we just don't really realize
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the power of being true to ourselves, and that we
can't be true to ourselves if we don't give ourselves
time to step off that, you know, reel hands the
wheel of life and just really look deep as to
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what we need and.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
To be able to speak up for what we need.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeh, yeah, yes, yes, we're running out of time here.
So I think it would be really beneficial if you
if you were to leave our audience with one really
powerful message, what would you tell them with regards to
you know, forgiveness and and all this stuff we talked
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about on today's show.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Yes, well, I think the most important thing is what
was sort of sort of seeming through this whole you
know session, is that when we can really find and
portray who we really.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Are, that is our superpower.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
And the biggest lock to that is that we don't
give ourselves time out from the busyness of life, and
we really need to just take ten minutes a day
to reflect and we set about what's important to us,
(32:25):
and then we need to read the chapter on self
care because we need to be able to to be
able to step up, we have to have the confidence
to go there and be vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
To express how we feel.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
And that's the most important thing, feeling our feelings, acknowledging,
setting boundaries, and.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Then we're free.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I love that. What a beautiful way to end today's show. Elizabeth.
You are the author of Free and First Locking Your
Ultimate Life. We've been talking about your book the whole
show now. That can be found on Amazon.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yes, yes, so My website is quite easy. It's Elizabeth
Jane dot com. And then we have this dot au
for Australia dot au. At the end, Elizabeth Jane dot
com dot Au and I hope to have a few
more books there soon and and.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Being sort of visiting around the world.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
In terms of the books to uplift, it's just about
uplifting into a better world.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Beautiful, beautiful. And lastly, before we go, I have to ask,
do you actually have kangaroos jumping around outside? You go outside,
can you find kangaroos? I've never been down under, so
we have these, you.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Know, pleas an infantry, but we do have we do have.
You caneps outside, but not cloud bands everywhere, and kangaroo
is an an hour around but not in the city.
So fortunately I'm black to the traffic blots.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Amazing, amazing, that's so funny. I just had to ask.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Australia. You've been to Australia.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
I've never been. No, I wish, I wish I'll come there.
I've got to come visit you. You're such a wealth
of knowledge.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Well, thank you so much for being here today. Elizabeth
is going to be back everyone. This is her third
episode on our channel. As mentioned, go back and check
out her other two episodes. Such a wealth of Knowledge.
Thank you so much for being here, Elizabeth.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
My Twitter flitter, thank keep aheading me.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
All right, guys, that is the show for today. Until
next time, I am Lisa Urbanski, co host of the show.
Stay tuned for so many more amazing episodes, and we'll
be talking to Elizabeth again soon