Episode 186: We are all Sinners

We are back talking the instant classic: Sinners! This is a spoiler heavy episode, so if you haven't seen the film watch it first!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
As blurred culture continues to thrive, a dark, annoying threat
begins to grow, taking over communities across the globe. The
villainous team known as Culture Vulture lands at the front
door of Blurred Culture, demanding ownership of this beautiful world,
breaking havoc and causing mass destruction every step of the way,

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and with all hope lost and the culture on the
brinks of being overran, Deuce is the Yonas of podcasting.
Bcardi sends me the master branding, and Didge the technical tactician,
collectively known as Geekset has emerged once again to help
lend hip hop culture and geek culture together in one place.
Tune in as Geekset curates the culture, celebrates our heroes,

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start the discussion on important topics, antake this culture to
new legendary heights that the world can be proud of.
Geek Set, Do what you rob?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Love?

Speaker 3 (01:00):
What do you do?

Speaker 4 (01:04):
All right?

Speaker 5 (01:04):
All right, all right, Welcome back to the geek Set
podcast only podcast that blame hip hop coaching and geek
coaching together. I'm your boy, Deuces whip y'all got my man,
but Cardi sins, saying the building what.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Is good everybody, happy spring, Happy fucking spring. Man, I
got digs in the building.

Speaker 6 (01:17):
What is happening people, What is happening people?

Speaker 4 (01:20):
We got tripping the motherfucking building.

Speaker 7 (01:22):
Yeah, what's going on everybody?

Speaker 4 (01:24):
And we got king out the shot you do everybody?
What the raise? And say? Shaky everywhere? Man, he do
me everywhere. I want to be surprised with shaking out
in our door right now, yo, what he said?

Speaker 5 (01:37):
Like, Broy, you're talking about man, I never want to
see this looking on the up like cuz bro Bro's like.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
You was talking shacky everywhere. You can you never be
you can never be surprised to see shack somewhere. But hey, man,
how how niggas been? Like?

Speaker 5 (01:57):
I know, we've been seeing each other off scam like
that and behind the scenes and ship and other ship,
but we haven't potted in like a month.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
It's been a month, been a month worth of time.

Speaker 6 (02:07):
Obviously only podcast every other week, but then happened last
two weeks ago.

Speaker 8 (02:11):
So yeah, so ship man, how niggas?

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Man? Man, I've been good.

Speaker 9 (02:21):
I've been good, Fam, I've been really you I think
ever since ce tweet two famous and now we just
thinking about dream coining like it's kind of season. So
it's been like you know, it's been it's been really busy.
It's been really it's been really nerve wracking at times,
trying to get like the closest together, trying to get
you know all you I think our finances decide is
like we bounced, bounced, like, but it's been cool.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
I'm excited, bro.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, Like I said, I can tell you
excited or inspired because and I think it's really because
of the The Love Wins dropped, because like I said,
you back, You're back on your fashion ship.

Speaker 9 (02:54):
I mean yeah, I mean I feel like I mean,
I definitely I feel like the love the Love Wins
was something I was definitely it helped. It helped really
bring my boost my confidence back up again.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
And you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (03:05):
So it's like I definitely feel like if I applied
myself more just like I did in that moment, that
I can continue you're saying, to make this something, you
know what I want to do. That's why even after
the Loved Wins was when I was creating it, that
was definitely in my mind to do something with the
Springs collection because I haven't never I've only done the
fall and then I've done Valentine's that stuff, but I've
never done in the spring of the summer. So it
was definitely it was already in the works that I

(03:27):
was gonna probably do something. I wanted more brighter colors
to go throughout this year.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yeah, yeah, y'all see it. You'll see it. Oh yeah,
they already on the website.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
You know, I'm saying, you've been this, been pumping out
content every day. Pop up this nigga dish, this nigga dish,
been doing fucking use this nigga dish, been doing trailer
reactions Like I just.

Speaker 6 (03:53):
I've just been doing ship Like I've just been trying
random ship with my computer fucked up that kind of
ruin my edit. So like you had an ed, I
was gonna.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Do edit Fest and I woke up one day commercial
that was commercial.

Speaker 6 (04:10):
I woke one day on my computer was just done.
Like I was able to fix it, but I lost
like a week trying to fix it, and it was
like by the time and in fixing it, I lost
a lot of old files which I had to basically
start all over. And I'm like, I'm not doing this.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
What you had to reboot, like you had to reboot
from a system.

Speaker 6 (04:29):
I got the hard drive. That's like, it didn't the
hard drive didn't crash or anything. It just stopped being
recognized as a boot drive. And so I had to,
you know, basically reinstall everything. Yeah, and so I can
pick and I can pull a certain ship off of it,
but a couple of folders they just wasn't They weren't
able to be recovered. So I was like whatever, So
since I had extra time, I was like, let's use

(04:50):
this time that already squared away for this to just
try other ships. Like, yeah, been doing some trailer reactions.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
Got your got your Hey, make sure y'all touring in
the digit twitch because this nigga got his light and
set up and took a lot of time.

Speaker 6 (05:08):
Because about that, I finally got that in a way
that I really love.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
It, Like it's it's so good it'd.

Speaker 6 (05:18):
Be loud as a bitch though, like you can hear
the fan come on stream light stream.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
So yeah, because I got essentially another one of these,
but it's RGB we got it's not.

Speaker 6 (05:29):
It's not the same it's not the same size soft box.
So like this one, I think is a thirty six
inch soft box. I know y'all can't see it on stream,
but the one that I have at home is seventeen
so about half. So I gotta I got a tabletop
basically like a tabletop light stand to go up like
two feet so it's enough where it can still essentially

(05:50):
shine down on me how this one is, And then
behind me I got the lights that are RGB as well,
so that way now you can see the color light.
I got the big ass PlayStation signed back there, so like,
I really like how it how it turned out. I
spent a lot of time making sure that that looked good.
And yeah, so you know, I figured you got to
show it off.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
You got it, you got you got now you gotta
do something with it, and you gotta do something with it,
all right, man, ak Man? What's been to liveing with you? Man? Man?
I really kind of been chilling working, you know, doing
uh a little little stuff here and there at your
movie reviews back? Yeah, US is back. It's actually been fun.
What's crazy is it's been a good week because it's

(06:30):
been like plenty trailers dropping this week, so plenty of
announcements of movies or just like the first or second
trailers dropping, So yeah, we got a lot of I
got a lot of content coming uh next week. But man,
it's been it's actually been a really good movie and
TV like week, like even like Netflix dropped a bunch
of new movies. Yeah, I think Hulu got a few.

(06:53):
It's it's been crazy. Yeah, he was back. I'm already
on that because so like, I know, I've been talking
about seven Deadly Sins, but I just got caught up,
right seven Sins. Yeah, yeah, And it's like I feel
like I've been missing out on so much, Like it got.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
Better the little bit that I was watching when I
was at King Shot getting my hair lined up that
I was.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
And what I come to realize is that the movies
that they put out they do, they do lead to
the series. They just look bad. Oh so you have
if once you get over that, like once I watched
the first and second season Current seasons, when I went
back and now I started the movies over again, I'm like, Okay,
I could deal with it.

Speaker 9 (07:37):
I get because I feel like we didn't. I don't
think we had because we didn't have a podcast. That
would have been the weekend of C two two, right
your birthday and everything.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yeah, like, how how it's life been so far since birthday?
I mean you had it ye.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Podcast officially forty uh surprise party, Rise party almost too.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
Cardi loud ass up, he said, So let's talk about
that real quick. That ship was funny. That was probably
the funniest thing in the world because, like, for weeks
I leading up to that, I had always thought it
was gonna be just a dinner, like me and her
go to dinner. She probably gonna have some people meet
us at the dinner, because that's kind of what she
slipped up and said, like, oh no, you know what

(08:26):
I'm saying. We ain't gonna do nothing too crazy. I'm
all right cool. So then as I'm getting out the car,
my eyes are closed, I could feel nothing but the
sun on my face, and all I hear is Bacardi's
laugh that laugh right there, and I'm like, bro, I

(08:46):
don't say nothing nothing. I'm like, you know what, I'm
gonna let it ride out. I'm gonna just because maybe
it's a dude that sound like Bacardi, Like I don't
want to be so I only have my phone out,
so I'm like, let me if I record everything, then
I can go back and rewatch it. And it was
the funniest shit because as soon as I heard your dust,
I was like, damn, that's gotta be Bacardi. It can't

(09:08):
be nobody else. It may be is somebody else. And
as soon as I came in, it was funny because
I didn't see Bacardi. Oh yeah, it's still outside, and
I saw everybody else, and I didn't really see y'all
right away because I saw like the people at the bar,
and I looked way back. I'm like, damn. And then
I saw deuces and I saw I'm like, wait a minute.

(09:30):
So then that's when he can. He came in with
table behind me up. I'm like.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
Hey, and she went crazy, which also much a loud
to your wife. But she needs to also start giving
instructions because when she made she she told me she
made me make the fly.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
I just made the fly, right. So when we got there,
we was just dressed regular, but the.

Speaker 10 (09:55):
Setup gave more like hey, get formal, like two or
three people who there us, they was already they was
already dressed, you know all that, and I'm like this
was there.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
It was I was like, I feel like we're out
of place. It couldn't be mad.

Speaker 6 (10:13):
I think I was in that tent. I was in
a ten like you said it was you.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
Could definitely go out with it, but you definitely can.
After after more people came we SA was like, okay,
I thought me and it looked like only one.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
I haven't seen an episode as the podcast.

Speaker 9 (10:34):
I mean, I don't know because because like I said,
because because you like, no one knew you like you
games the day and whatever like that, So I didn't
know nothing.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
So I didn't know. You didn't say anything about it.
I was like, she didn't assuming we just stepped out
to the It wasn't address code. I think her thing
because like I was gonna wear something a little more
for him. She was like, no, you know, as long
as you wear this the shirt and the pants, I
don't care what else you wear. And I'm like, all right,
so I'm doing. That's why I said it has to

(11:05):
be a dinner because you're not asking me to crazy.
I'm wearing Jordan's Like, it can't be that, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 6 (11:12):
For that was we were standing. I was like, bro,
this nigga king finish show.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Because because she was dress. Yeah, I was like all right,
she's gonna be like. I'm like, all right, we saw her.
It was like, because you weren't in a nice dress,
I'm wearing George Balanced.

Speaker 9 (11:32):
Yeah, that's what you're saying. You know, she's gonna dress.
She's gonna dress up. So it's like, I'm just gonna
I'm gonna be me, but I'm gonna step it up.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
Not like honestly was every very dude. Know, when you
get an outfit and they tell you to put it on,
You're gonna put it on, but you have no say so.
And that don't think I was the hat, the shoes
and the other vested I had over it that it
was laid on the band for you already, but it was.
It was dope to see.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Man.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
It was definitely a trip. Man. A lot be going
on in wrestling.

Speaker 11 (12:00):
Man, it's been a lot going on in wrestling. So
I've just been, you know, consuming wrestling. It's really pretty
much my my busy season right now with the Cons
and then it's my wedding anniversary and.

Speaker 7 (12:12):
That it was the seventeenth was our celebration.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Make shout out to the Blur. That is a blurdy
ass celebration. I mean, I said, we're part of it anyway,
Like I said, said that was the.

Speaker 11 (12:27):
Full circle for the weekend, right because, uh, if y'all
been been around for a while back before we were
on camera, you know, geek Set was just audio. I
think episode twelve. You'll want to go back and listen
to episode twelve on Apple Podcasts.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
He got that, like y'all got y'all got that, we
got it gaged, we got.

Speaker 7 (12:47):
A gains on the live episode.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Yeah, you supposed we proposed right in front of the
Boes live we were yeek Set's first come. Yeah, what
we talk about not just remember that you really did
do that, and that you.

Speaker 7 (13:09):
Know, Mother's Day coming up, and then.

Speaker 11 (13:12):
My daughter's birthday so all that, man, and then we
got dream kind at the end of the month.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
So it's like it's just back to back to back
for me, just getting through.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
All of that.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Yeah, oh ship nigga. So you know, I wait, first,
real quick, sorry, sorry to cut you off Boat.

Speaker 6 (13:30):
To answer your question, you haven't seen a podcast episode
in a minute because we missed the episode because of.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
So I've been catching up on like just a lot
of TV and ship like that and really just trying
to also make some behind the scene connection for geek
set that I've been I've been really working LinkedIn like crazy,
so trying to get some things going. But what's funny is,
so I was catching up on Raising Canan, Right, you
know what I'm saying, Okay, that's my hood, my hood show.
But then if it's on Stars. Come to find out,

(13:56):
they got all the hood movies on Stars. So I've
been going back you watching the old hood movies forgot
you know what I'm saying, some of them. So I
started off with a society the boys once the boys
in the hood, you know what, I'm in the hood
or what. I realized that I was telling divisions in
the car. I said, Bro, you go back some of
these old hood movies that cast those casts were stacked
with one fucking top tier actors.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
I said, bout John Singleton had Angela Bassett and Compton.
Bro Like you know what I'm saying. I mean, they
was one of the back there.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (14:29):
Also, they were younger in the.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
You just you at that time.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
You're like, Bro, I fuck with you as the director.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
We're gonna all grow together. It's like imagine right now,
I'm saying, all right, look here I'm about to do
a movie. It's gonna be a senate content.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
We're gonna have Angela Bassett, Laurence Fishburn, director put it off,
and the right story.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
But here's the things when I went some of these
stories and I realized, I was like, a lot of
these art classic movies are really just drama. Like we
we have funny moments that are funny to us because
they're like the Hood or anesthetics of it. But I'm like, bro,
a lot of these movies they are these are all drama,
but they are great stories.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Like you know what I'm saying. I mean, they just told,
they told from our What is your favorite Hood movie?

Speaker 6 (15:19):
Oh no, this is an ey question for me. Friday
because Friday, because you get boys in the Hood and
like Minister Society.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
All those are just drama because it as a comedy first.
You like, I can at least I can at least
have happy moments. Watch. That's a tough one.

Speaker 9 (15:40):
It really is a tough one because I mean, like,
because on any given day, I would definitely say I'm
gonna use today was I'm gonna get you suck.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
It's definitely one of my.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
Classic, so Mines is actually Mines is actually a drama
and Minds might be paid.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
It for taking my ship back because I actually hall
of them night, bro, all them nights is all that.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Is.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
Definitely last Dragon. I'm gonna get you stuck as my second.
You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna get you second.
Be there for me.

Speaker 11 (16:11):
I mean, I'm gonna just go off base because y'all
said some really good ones. But for me, when I
think of hood movies, I think it was like the
old school when the rappers had their own self funded movies.
So I'm gonna go with Choices.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
I'm not mad at it.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
I'm definitely not mad because, bro, you gotta remember when
rappers had movies, there was only a few that was
like that.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
We were like we are even though they bad quality.

Speaker 5 (16:33):
We just like like like baller Blacking, I got the
hook Up Choices, what was another record?

Speaker 7 (16:47):
Choices Choices one and two? Or Killer Season? It was dope.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Your season was wild up until the that was too much.

Speaker 9 (16:58):
It was it's are crazy though how much theseiggas these
things had a moment and like and they're struggling now
where it's like that's just like.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Watch, but let me tell you what didn't hold up?
And like I didn't watch. I haven't watched the movie again.

Speaker 6 (17:14):
I just saw clipson like r I know this movie
trash now I got the hook up.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
No man, still it was great.

Speaker 7 (17:21):
I don't remember.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
I remember. I'm sorry, I said, I don't watch the
full movie again.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
Recently about it, about it, about it, about it and
the last time, last time, don't worry movie.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Yeah yeah, everybody, every about it. The dog the dog
ball Snoop had one for his on.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
This movie.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
For five minutes. Yeah yeah, yeah, he's on to work.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
These are DVD. You have you to watch the clips
on YouTube? A yeah, because.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
City Baby what was it called? Oh no, you can
watch to get to get, I used to get mine
from this man. This man used to have a million
movies and I used to go there and I would.

Speaker 9 (18:16):
Get, like I said, whatever it was to get the
only time I've ever come across one of those movies
because I got him out of a deal.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
Look up from the man.

Speaker 7 (18:25):
I got to hook up to his trash.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
That was like five years ago. Don't like.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
Or I was trying to like just like Belly too
is trash the belly to the game with the games
to they always make it to.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
It's called belly too. I forgot about probably my number one.

Speaker 7 (18:45):
I ain't gonna gonna say.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
She was trashed like Belly one wasn't trash you wow?
I thought, what what you do?

Speaker 1 (18:55):
You know?

Speaker 6 (18:56):
You want to know why.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Everybody with belly the opening, So niggas in the know
that movie. There's a lot right, Keisha is so, I
don't like that ship first, I don't like that. I'm
about to drop it down on them niggas. Bro movie
Jumping Man right, next movie Jumped on the soundtrack and

(19:19):
the I love the soundtrack.

Speaker 6 (19:21):
We're talking about the New.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
Boy. You want to know some enough to have to
call the soundtrack. But it was trash Yoski that she countracked.
I got the soundtrack. That soundtrack is fired but trash.

Speaker 8 (19:34):
Hey you dig it's in the Hood Left on Hood movie.
That's one of my favorites. Three strikes, Yeah, the three strikes.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
It gets a lot of flak. But so Playing, So
I love so Playing Playing was decent. They just bootlegged
so it didn't it didn't.

Speaker 9 (19:56):
I think if it never got be like like you did,
it would have probably got it would probab lived a
little bit better.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
I'm trying to think, yeah, yeah, so yeah, that's why
I've been watching a ship ton of hood movies and
playing Assassin's Creed.

Speaker 7 (20:09):
Ship.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Man.

Speaker 5 (20:11):
Oh yeah man, but man today we we we all
saw Centers. We're gonna talk Centers.

Speaker 9 (20:18):
Ya gonna say I was definitely I'm like, we was
talking about classics movies and all that.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
For those who are watching right now, I want to
let you know, if you didn't watch Centers, you might
want to come back to the spot because we are talking.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Here and go see it any fucking way. You know,
I'm saying, I think they want to see they.

Speaker 9 (20:35):
Don't ship and go see it anyway another time after
that for somebody else telling me to go see it too,
you know, saying.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
Right now Centers, did anybody see it in the in
the Imax? Your breathing probably gonna go to you know,
it's crazy because he just told me. I did not
know that the only Max is make fair yeah seats
and let me very recently, I found out very recently

(21:06):
it's not even real fucking on that I'm max so Imax,
you know, you know they got the Imax.

Speaker 6 (21:16):
They give you much different screens.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Whatever, you know, that's the Imax that's at Mayfair.

Speaker 6 (21:20):
It is a really good screen. It's it's their only
really good one. It's one theater in there, so that's
it's the good screen. But it's not the true Imax experience.
Apparently it's the Imax experience.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
And growing up that disgusted who how did you find
that out?

Speaker 6 (21:37):
So they already have so you know, when they was
doing the thing, oh go see Sinners in Imax, they
already got an astrois and you know, the true Imax experience,
you know, telling you basically where you can see it at.
So we already talked about how at the very top quality,
there's only ten theaters in the world. The second quality,
I think it was like another five, and then it

(21:57):
says an.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Imax experience, and I was like, what the fun is
that mean? So I googled what's an I experience? And
it's not like it is the sound out there?

Speaker 6 (22:08):
The sound definitely there because you gotta you gotta our Imax.
I don't think has Dobe. So the sound is a Doobe.
You want to get Adobe atmost.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Okay, yeah, which they don't got he that's what I'm saying.
Just a superscreen essentially.

Speaker 6 (22:24):
Yeah, like apparently the sound apparently that like that Imax
experience is like the equivalent of like, like you said,
like a superscreen at Marcus.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
So it's like, it's cool. So I saw the Imax
then pretty much. Yeah, I saw on the superscreen for sure.
I didn't see it in Imax and everything like that.
I guess it's like it's cool, but being here, we're
not getting the bestic.

Speaker 6 (22:45):
I was disgusted. I was watching this Kodak videos because
you know he could he connected with Kodak and he
was just playing like the iceback ratios.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
The video is dope, but it made me more and
more disgusted. He has read out more and more you
get to see how much you miss.

Speaker 7 (23:03):
Yeah, that should piss me off.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
I saw it afterwards and I'm like, bro, this isn't
even the real being real. I want to watch a
real was So I was so pissed because I'm like,
get Then they're like, yeah, he's the He's one of
the first to ever mix these two formats. And if
you notice, the ultra screen is what you're supposed to get.

(23:26):
I was like Nigga to pull up.

Speaker 7 (23:27):
Wasn't even like it was already.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
Not like that.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
It should look like.

Speaker 7 (23:33):
The best, just like in that.

Speaker 9 (23:34):
Sense, he needs that needs to be somehow permanently in theaters,
like it just needs to just be in theaters.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
To go to the museum with the actual IMAX, that's
what that's what like we used to get there. I
felt like that.

Speaker 6 (23:51):
Might be that theater might be gone. Yeah I heard
already taking out exhibit because that remodeled. It's funny to
they moving it by the five surf now.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
Like right, I feel like it's so much the smartest space,
brocause it's gonna be a towers. Yeah, it's gonna be bro.
Used to be walking experiences in the museum. Also was younger,
Yeah maybe he was a little boy.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
I was.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
I went there recently with my kids. It's not as
big as you thought. The little town. That little town
there is a little little room. It wasn't as this.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
It wasn't as big as your bro got me fucked
up when I actually, like I said, I remember when
we first got IMAX and I went. I went as
a field trip that was one of the there and
then and then the last Imax. I saw experience with Avatar,
and that's when.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
I was like, I hate three D and you saw
that guitar the first one, like oh the Actual Blue movie,
Actual Blue Movie. I hated it. Interesting. I don't like,
I mean, I don't.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
I'm not fan of the movie.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
But three D.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
But all right, so let's let's do let's do this,
let's do quick around that sinners. How did you but Cardi,
you was the first to see it. It was the
first Thursday I saw. I saw that first.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
Yeah, I saw that Sunday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you so.

Speaker 9 (25:15):
I saw so I saw it like in the e
Rid cinemas in the screen X so the screens got
the screens on all like on all three walls.

Speaker 6 (25:22):
They highlighted screen X in the Kodak video.

Speaker 9 (25:26):
Yeah, okay, So so it's just so in that space
it was that was a phenomenal experience because I mean
the sound system was sounds.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Yeah, I mean it's not it's not to me. I
feel like it had its moments.

Speaker 9 (25:38):
But I feel like, even like you said, if you've
been in Imax or anything like that, like with Adobe,
and I don't think it had Adobe at most.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
That's what I feel like it did. I have to
double check.

Speaker 9 (25:46):
But the experience of the Three Walls in like in
like the like the just the water shot, like the
driving scene and stuff like that, you really felt like
you was in it.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Like like the movie in general was.

Speaker 9 (25:58):
If I'm just giving a quick I mean, it's definitely
a classic.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
It's hard for med even call it a hardes in
depth that you want, I put Fowlers at the.

Speaker 9 (26:05):
Back you got, I'm saying, like, I mean, I just
felt I felt like just in like in general, the
music to me that it was to me, it was
like a musical like a rocky horror picture show for
black people. And it's you know, I'm saying, in this weird,
you know what I'm saying, Like the music was such
a like prominent role in it, and like I said,

(26:27):
and we all go, I know, we all go toward
that moment. But like I said that when he performed
and going through like bro, I feel like time stopped
in the theater, you said, like like you're saying, like,
so it's like to me, I feel like he didn't.
I didn't find any real flaws in it, honestly, you said,
And me watching it, I feel like it really kind
of like as as a fan of just movies in general,

(26:49):
I feel like it touched in every kind of aspect
of me.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
It has moments where it's like, you can look at it.

Speaker 9 (26:53):
I did give that where it's like it was obvious
as a movie person how the story is going to go.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
And so that's I know we're gonna talk about it.

Speaker 5 (27:03):
But for somebody, I wanted to ask you that because
it's something I've been seeing a lot of people say that,
and I'm like, for me, just because it's obvious doesn't
take it make it not good, right, And so I'm like,
I was like, I get that people say like, oh,
it was obvious, but I'm like, it was still good
and it made sense even the obviousness of it. I'm like,
not everything has to be new and eventive, like some

(27:23):
things are certain tropes that it was.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
It was a message though, So that's the thing. I
get what you're saying. But the thing about it was
I don't think he was trying to reinvent a horror, right,
He's telling a story and it was a method that
you had, Like, I think the reason why you felt
it was obvious is because he did such a great
job setting up the finish. Like the first two scene,

(27:46):
I mean the first two scenes you was like they
drug you in, and then the third and fourth scene
gave you that that action that you was like, this
was I was expecting the whole time. So yeah, I
give what you mean, but I mean we're gonna be talking. So,
like I said, when I saw that Sunday.

Speaker 5 (28:07):
One, it was funny because I was telling King this
at the shot that the trailers didn't really get me
excited for the movie.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
I knew I was going to see it.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
Was one of other things when I saw the first
trailer that I'm gonna se it right, But like the
trailer didn't hype me up for I didn't have that
whole ship and I'm about to go see Center.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
But I was watching a lot of the interviews, and.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
I realized I didn't I didn't know much about Ryan Coogler,
So leading up to the movie and everything like that,
I was watching a lot of Ryan Cougler's interview Ryan
Coogler May Jordan's interviews, and that's what got me excited
for the film, learning the connections that he had to
Blues and connections that he had to Horror and everything
like that, and even yeah, you know, I'm not that

(28:46):
big on film like Didgit is, but even hearing him
talking about the new like the things that he was
doing and the artistic you know, things that he was
that got me extremely hyped for So as I was
watching it and everything, it was like one of I
felt like how I felt how we felt when we
was watching love Craft.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
Like I really was just like, Yo, this is fucking dope.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
It was.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
It was just like, yeah, it was like you know
what I'm saying, It was just like a Lovecraft.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
You know what I'm saying Again, I'm a sucker for
a period piece, so like even the period piece aspect
of it, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know,
and I think like even that first opening shot, you know,
we know Michael B. Jordan's playing twins, and even that
first opening shot to even them just how they interact.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
Because get you know, when you watch movies, King turny
on camera real quick.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
A lot of the times when they're doing like let's
say we was doing double King, right, King will be
filming right there and then he'll film another one right there,
and like it'll be something in the middle. It really
separates them, right, so they don't never you don't never
really see them cross interact, but it's them both of
them on camera. That's usually the trick that a lot
of double scenes do. So seeing Michael B. Jordan there
being able to pass the past the cigarette to them

(29:57):
the way that they was interacting, I was like, Yo,
this is kind of crazy right now, you know what
I'm saying, So like, yeah, I was like that there
was so many things about this film that was just
dope to me, just like just generally dope that I
fucked and everything like that.

Speaker 6 (30:12):
Oh for me, you can clearly tell that this is
Brian Coogler at his best. Like I obviously I've seen
every film that he's written and directed, and I actually,
after watching The Sinners, I went back and rewatched every
film they was written and directed because I wanted to
make sure I wasn't being hyperbolic when.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
I say that this is clearly the best that he's
ever done. Yeah, you can definitely tell that this is
what been like, this is what he really wanted to do.
I think this is this was his opportunity though everything
else I think was steered, steered by a company where
this was like his opportunity. Like what y'all talking about

(30:49):
the whole thing.

Speaker 7 (30:52):
This is my original property.

Speaker 6 (30:53):
Yeah, to do to this point, like the the amount
of work and effort that went into not only the
filming of it, the research, like they uh, this lady
she has a documentary out about the actual Chinese people
who were in the Mississippi Delta. So he found that,
he found out about that, went and said, I want
you to be my cultural Like I want you You're

(31:15):
gonna be a cultural advisor on myself. Right, So like
he did that Lutwig Uh, him, him and Louwig, that's
the composer. They've done a lot of work therether like
he you know, they were they were college friends. But
he knew that Lutwig loved the blues, like, uh, they
did an interview with it. Uh Lutwig's dad that's how
that's how he learned the guitar.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
I guess his dad was heavy.

Speaker 6 (31:36):
Into the blues apparently during that time in Europe because
a lot of the blues artists and a lot of
black musicians they weren't getting they weren't getting sold.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
In the States.

Speaker 6 (31:47):
They were getting brought over to Europe because a lot
of those European bands that was that's who they're influencing.
So Lutwig, obviously him and his dad had a big
connection to the blues. He was going down to Sipy
him and his dad. Ryan Coogler went along because he
knew he was going to do this film. He's like,
I need to know more about this era. They have
a really great interview where they're just talking about that experience,

(32:09):
just walking through the Mississippi Delta, walking through that area,
and it's just you can tell he is a real
student of.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
Did you sit hear the story about his set designer,
set dresser, the set dresser, So the set dresser that
he pulled. So she was working on h this and
this is how we figured out that Blade was supposed
to be a period piece. She was working on Blade,
and Blade was going to be a period piece before
it got shut down. So when Ryan Coogler was looking
for a set dresser for like you know what I'm saying,

(32:37):
for the clothing and the field, like like you know, setting,
the setting and everything like that, he reached out to
her and she was like, well, shit, I already did
all this research for Blade, so let's go and show
everything that she was doing for Blade, she kind of
brought over and gave to Ryan Coogler for this.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Like stuff like oh yeah, like it was like fake,
it was faith.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (32:57):
Like Deerroy Lindo was talking about the scene when they're
in the car, uh when they first Yeah, that was all.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
He said.

Speaker 6 (33:07):
He said that almost didn't even make the film. But
it's like all of that you can tell and longer monologue.

Speaker 9 (33:15):
And that's what I said, Like, and that's and I
just say because in that scene with the with the
in the three screen with the like, bro, you felt
like he was talking in the ste with these niggas
like that she got the player, you like.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
Like, it's just everything about it. I'm like, bro, I
was I was telling somebody, Uh, I saw somebody. We
was just talking about that until the I was so
drawn into the world that until the guitar scene where
ship started changing, I was like, bro, this is a
supernatural film. That's right, some ship.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
So yeah, yeah, yeah they did. He did a real
good job at keeping it.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
The pyrapiece that we we saw we knew from the
get go even to get it like something like it
was it was a supernatural film.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
We saw that, but it was like I said, when
he started playing and he started started.

Speaker 9 (34:00):
Started get it because like fam fam voice had through
me immediately again like me, and I'm just like, bro,
this nigga even let that boy's deep off big bro
so fast.

Speaker 6 (34:12):
They still haven't gotten a chance to see the movie,
but I at least played them a lot to you,
Like I was like, how would y'all think dude is?

Speaker 4 (34:19):
Yeah? I played the song. Neither one of those the song.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
I just played the song like it was him. He
was performing a live but like neither one of them
looking at the screen or anything. How would y'all think
he is? But probably in his forties fifties. My mom
was like, no, you know, maybe young, little young, he's
probably he probably thirties forties.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
I was like, this bro is twenty, saying you gotta
remember our parents and the parents that like they watch
so you think you can dance all the singing competition
so they well, you know, so you just did moment
with them?

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Did he looked? He was like hold he grabbed my phoney.

Speaker 6 (34:52):
Looking like bed.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
So it's king man, cheers man man, I go lout
to you. I feel this movie caught me off guard
because I was expecting supernatural vampire action, but like kind
of how like Black Panther was like set up, you know,
a little love, little here and there. Bro the way

(35:15):
he poured in to every aspect, like like I said,
the first two scenes, the sets up, the setup was crazy,
just to get ready for the night. He made you
give a damn about every character. Far for a director.
I feel like in a movie with so many actors,
especially well known actors and you know, seasoned actors, he

(35:39):
made me give a funk about each and every one
of them when they got in when under one roof,
like you say, when when the roof burned away, I
damned near started freaking out, like I was like, oh ship,
you forget So I had that same moment wait wait, whoa, whoa.

(36:01):
I'm like, I was like, come to y'all, this song
can't be this good. He hit a note he hit
a note bro at that moment, and it was like
he pointed to the sky that you saw a flower ship, nigga.
They hit it at the room. But at the same time.
Because so, because I feel like I've also been like

(36:22):
watching these type of movies forever, especially in that era
that between the twenties, to the seventies. I loved those movies.
Right when he touched the floor, I don't know if
everybody picked I picked up on that shit right away.
I said, Damn, it's a set up house because I
was just watching the judge, the judge that did the

(36:42):
same thing in there. He's gonna put them all in
the house, wait to get in their shotgun house. Why
they call the shotgun house because I could shoot the
front door and go through everybody. That's where the saying
comes from, the fact that they knew that bro. It
fucked me up. But it also was like the detail
in each step of the set up perfect because the end,

(37:03):
if you didn't watch that part, you would have been
like what they been coming for, Like, yeah, you know.

Speaker 9 (37:09):
What I'm saying, ain't nobody know what the fan like
the dude didn't Michu. Remember he had the two people
with him. He was like, they clai, they come and
get you and all that kind of stuff you're saying.
So they told him, but they knew already. They knew
like they knew already, you're saying.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
So that was that was like, that was that was
one of them things like man, like you said, I
didn't find I could not find a single flaw when
it came to dissecting the movie, but it just kept
intriguing me. Like when I did the review on it, right,
I already said, I have to do a series on
this because it's so much bro That's like, like, I
don't see this movie going away. This movie won't be

(37:43):
going to stream. This one's gonna be already pre ordered.

Speaker 6 (37:49):
I already got the still special edition that she would
be on my doorstep that they had come out pre
ordered it.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
So that's the thing that I feel about movies like
this that we don't get a lot of movies like
this where because like said is a horror, I don't
think it's a horrible. Yeah, I think it's a love story.

Speaker 5 (38:11):
From from Ryan Coogler's interview, he's definitely a film nerd,
and I feel like, like what McCarty said, he touched
on every Like here's the thing. It's one of those
things that if somebody called it a horror, I'm not
going to debate you called it a period piece, I'm
not going to debate you call him a love story.
Because he felt like he was hitting every tropes, but
it didn't feel like Chaoti. I feel like he was like,
I'm going to poetically merge these together because I study this.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
I love this, and even his interviews here's what I
always love.

Speaker 5 (38:38):
I love where people talk about the past and they
give nods to the people that laid the groundwork and
the foundation for what they're doing.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
And he's dropping names.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
And again, I'm not a film buff up like that
where I can know directors and who use this, and
so when he's dropping names, I'm like, all right, and
I saw. I'm a researcher though, so now I'm looking
up into it and everything and I'm like, oh shit,
Like he's talking about icon people who may not be
known to the main world, but if you are in
that film world, you know this name and this same
and this that was fires uh trip.

Speaker 7 (39:09):
Man, I acted it tough.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
You know.

Speaker 11 (39:11):
I was the last to go see it. I went
to see it yesterday. But yeah, so being fresh on
my mind, like the scenes that stand out for me, obviously,
it's the scene with smoking Stack when they're smoking with
each other, and just to be able to shoot that
so perfectly at the angle that they shot that at
is insane because there was no cut in that there's
no there's no point where you could be like, Okay,

(39:33):
that's where they cut it up, and they shot it
so that it don't like these separate people. Even then
for him to play two different charriers, the characters that
are twins, and not make it seem like it's the
same actor playing Roles, it was you can tell that
they're twins. So they got they share manuisms, but they're different.
Those are two solid characters that cars.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
In the movie. Ran talked about that I talked about
it came from his own experience with his aunts. Yeah.
But he also it is funny because even in that
interview he talked about, like the motivation for the twins
was the Euroba tribes deities. Yeah, win guys, right, Yeah.

(40:18):
That was the craziest thing because he was like, it
was like could he was like, there were identical twins, Yeah,
but he was I could always tell the one just
how the way she held her face.

Speaker 7 (40:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
And I'm like I saw that too. I'm like, you
could always tell Smoke from Stack because Smoke was Stack
was always firm, straight up yeah yeah yeah, and Stack
was I mean and yeah, Back had the swag and
I think he was the charming one. He always smiled.

Speaker 5 (40:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (40:43):
Ever, Smoke was serious. He's about business.

Speaker 11 (40:46):
Like the way I said to Brandon the movie, I
was like, Smokey's business Stack is pleasure.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
But and somebody pointed this out in one of their
reviews that I didn't even know even down to the
way that they was dressed because Smoke his his suit
was a little bit bigger because he always had that
foul on them where that he was all about just
flash and clash and he had just the.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
Yeah he did because he had. But but Smoke always
he had the guns on them.

Speaker 6 (41:15):
Goes back to even when they were talking about them,
like Smoke always had the reason they had killed their
dad was Smoke was like he was he hit Stack.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (41:25):
So I think it goes into their mannerism like Smoke
always had felt like I got to be there to
protect my brother.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (41:31):
And I think that's how I mean, that's that's how
That's why I said, there's so many there's so many
tropes in and relationship, like what you want to say,
relationship things that we've already seen and in movies or whatever.
But even without saying with the twins, like I saw
the interview was like, like Michael directed dude.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
Like what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (41:49):
He was like he was like Ryan Ryan. He asked
Ryan or whatever, Ryan, like like where you handle So
he had the body double that was working with him.
He in a sense was mimicking him, like I'm teaching
you to be this dude, and then I'm had to
come in and be that dude. You're saying like in
the space. So it's like I think that was even
great in a space to even have to have a
personal like you created a character. Yeah, you're saying like

(42:10):
you created this dude to work with. You're saying that
you now got to work with on screen, but this
is your baby, like you're saying, like, So I think
that's like whether and that's why I think I think
I don't know if anyone ever asked him that question,
like well if you were like as as the one
that you're directing, like who which one are you?

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Like?

Speaker 9 (42:27):
Which one were you with? Your actual like Michael B.
Jordan's actual character, which all came out more.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
Here's you know what's funny.

Speaker 5 (42:34):
And so I don't know because I watched a lot
of interviews and I don't think they really none of
that I've seen they acting on that. But the one
thing that me as a fan of Michael B. Jordan's
acting and everything like that, I feel like this is
what's his This was his best acting performance because.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
Absolutely, because Michael B. Jordan's he.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
He what he has, what he does well is being
a relatable person that can relate to either side of
the whatever spectrum. Right, Like because he started you gotta
think he was in Hardball, he was in the Wire
and in both of those roles he cooked, right. It
was you know, just a regular kid, but then also

(43:13):
a kid from the hood who's a product of his environment.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
Right.

Speaker 5 (43:17):
But then you know he does stuff like you'll see
like Chronicle where he plays like the football jack.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
Right. So he's he He's one of those actors that
can be every day man. He can be within this.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
So with Smoking Stack, what I do love about, like
I said, the dualities of the different characters is that,
like said, you got the same people who came from
the same type of situation, but you have some like
you said, one brother is all about, like I said, pleasure.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
He wants to have fun, he wants to get that money.

Speaker 5 (43:40):
The other ones more you know, like we're getting his money,
but we got to be you know, changed, we gotta
be more, you know.

Speaker 12 (43:47):
And so with.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
Him being able to portray both of those like that,
I feel like it was just more inner of him.
I feel like, you know, I say this all the time,
there's more people from the hood who walk the middle
line than being like, there's more people like you think
of the hood.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
You always think about like the boys, the person that
the jack boy, the person.

Speaker 5 (44:06):
Who always got the gun and shit like that, and
not everybody feel there's more people from the hood who
was like, yeah, I know them. I'm just here I'm
still trying to go to school trying. There's more people
in that and I feel like Michael B. Jordan is that,
and so being him being able to tap into that
and being able to be different people that with that
same upbringer. I feel like this was his best showing
because he was really able to flex his acting kill Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
Absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 11 (44:28):
And then the saying that that really brought me in
was seeing what smokes when he went to get to
get the food and get all that ship set up
with the Chinese, with the Chinese family or whatever, and
how they shot that. You can tell it was shot
with a single camera, and it looked flawless, going from
one store to across the straight to the other story,

(44:49):
to him talking to the two niggas that he just
shot to going back to the store, and how all
of that interacted and flowed.

Speaker 7 (44:55):
So it was done so well.

Speaker 9 (44:57):
I mean, I think, like I said, what like even
was so great about this the movie in general, especially
when you really just like fall all the way back
with this is like a twenty four hour period.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
This was.

Speaker 9 (45:06):
This was the brother's coming in and tying to throw
party and a vampire escaping the Native Americans in the
same time and literally just crossing paths, I'm saying, and.

Speaker 6 (45:18):
I don't even know if it was a random crossing path.
They bring that up at the beginning where some people
just make music that it's so damn.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
Yeah, he drew. So the thing was, and I think
that's what it was. I think the opening scene was
supposed to be the Omen and the father was That's
why the guitar into because it was like he was
trying to let him know. I had a feeling evil
was coming to town for you and his guitar, and

(45:48):
you're playing this guitar. And I also think that was
the symbolism of the guitar being smoking Stacks Daddy's guitar.
It was supposed to be an evil guitar from an
evil man but played by a Ya. So now you
have this invitation of the sinners right from a sinning guitar,

(46:08):
I mean, but also the guitar brought awesome, Like the vampire.

Speaker 6 (46:15):
Story was saying, aginting, like the people who have that
gift that they create something that is so transcendent it
goes across time and space. But because it is so
transcendent and it goes across time and space, it also
attracts very.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
Very yeah people that want to use it.

Speaker 6 (46:33):
Activities.

Speaker 5 (46:34):
And you know what's crazy because like you know, to
kind of go back to the scene that Tripp said
captured him right. What I loved about that whole scene
even in general, is when they were showing you know
what I'm saying, They were showing smoke and you know,
his interactions in town and set and everything up, but
then also showing Stack also a person able to get
shipped done. He's able to get that, he was able

(46:54):
to get his cousin, he was able to get old
boy on board, Like you know what I'm saying, he's
the voice. You know what I'm saying behind that, I'm
gonna get I'm gonna bring.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
The people here, you know. But think about it. He
was like, like Bro said, he was living a life.
He was fun. You know what I'm saying. The brother
was business. He went off to go do business. But
at the same time, I think that was the intellect,
like you said, Michael be Jordan brought to it when
they was together. What he said, Man, we might as
well just do separate stack. I mean, Smoke didn't want

(47:24):
to like, nah, we'll get it all done. You go
handle them Asians. I'm gonna go handle this. We'll be
good to go. That right there was right. It's me
perfectly now knowing that it was Michael B. Jordan put
it together, with the mannerisms, the meaning behind it, it
all made sense because if you would have did the opposite,
you wouldn't have had the same results.

Speaker 9 (47:41):
And I loved I just I love the fact that
it was like the duer even the duality in what
they were doing in those two scenes, like the high
speed of fam going through town getting everything together, and
then it's that slow space of just talking about you know,
the voodoo and the who you know what I'm saying,
like all the like just like a whole different like
they were as two different different place.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
Was like, yeah, you know that that guitar right there,
let me say like he made but he knew but
his his stacks thing is like I know how to
sell a dream.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
I know because because like I said, doula Slim didn't
want to come, he had to sell it.

Speaker 6 (48:17):
He had to sell that to he's so he's so
does the Slim because I talk about that the comedy
just those scenes also in there, like one on smoke side,
the comedy of somebody trying to steal steal from his truck.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
He shoot the one like obviously, but he looked like
he looking at me weird, Like is the fact that
it's the story behind it, right, you can't go back
and you get away with it. I can't let you
go away.

Speaker 7 (48:44):
Saying that you almost ribbed me with no whip, right
like you got away.

Speaker 6 (48:49):
But then on the other side, the comedy of dust,
the Slim he kind of not going for to he
get a taste of a Chicago beer.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
I don't know what kind of beer broke up.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Look like bitch, yeah, but also even the more comedy
of it.

Speaker 5 (49:11):
With Cornbread, you I got something, make it, make it,
make your wife, but look around your back up. He's like, man, boy,
like that's my wife. He was like, my bad fun
that bitch too, but then you better go get that motherfucker.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
How much funny talking to much money we're talking because
obviously that town knew the smoke tax, like they were
back in town. Black people bro that left Mississippi and
went to Chicago and worked for the mad They all
made it in a poor sharecropper town. You know a

(49:50):
lot of times people like you know the story, like
you could tell that this time, like the people he
was going to they know when turned around ship like
it was automatically, I would.

Speaker 5 (50:06):
Man, but.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
They thought she was lying. But also to like I
was about to say, I lost that ship.

Speaker 5 (50:15):
But yeah with corn Brad, like I said, like he
said that, like again, they couldn't have done each other's jobs.
They had they had to do it the right way.
You have to see because like you said, you even like,
oh no, that's what I want to say. When when
when Cuz started singing in the car, I literally did
the exact same face that that stack did, but he
was like because I was because again I went to

(50:39):
this movie not knowing much about like like the characters
of how what they was going to be, So I
didn't really even know his voice.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
You remember, he didn't say the whole time, but like
I said, I was already on it, like this Nigga
boys defense.

Speaker 5 (50:50):
That's all I said was a bit so yeah, So
it's like I didn't expect that. So yeah, that's just
like it was really that that that those that set up, yeah.

Speaker 9 (51:01):
Because I mean like and I feel like that, I
feel like what was so great about it, even like
with the car scene of him singing set up because
I feel like I still have the same experience and
both sing. You know, I'm saying like when he just
popped in and that was the first time you heard
him sing in the car, You're like this, get it down.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
But then when you just know realized is the party
going on? Everybody doing? But he grabbed the guitar. He
just like bro the fact that this was his first throw. Yeah. Yeah,
like shout out to her, because shout out to her.

Speaker 6 (51:32):
That's the reason why he's reason why he said that
you called him he toward her, and I guess it
might have been.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
I don't know if it was after the tour was done.
It like towards the end of it, he called or
she called him, and.

Speaker 6 (51:42):
She was like, you should do this because what he
was he was a singer for so he divorce Helen.
He didn't know, he didn't know blues like he I
think he. I think he a church kid.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
Yeah, definitely fit, but like, yeah, towards it of it,
I guess she was like, Ryan.

Speaker 5 (52:03):
Got this roll coming, which that that I realized as
an aspiring actor, I am. I want a movie where
I get that moment where I, I don't know, I
don't have to plead the talk, but you know that
moment they have in the movie where.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
It's like you get your your song number and whether
I rap give somewhere. It takes the crowd, It takes
like everybody transitions.

Speaker 5 (52:29):
That ship was so cold, but also before we can
even get into that part, even the setting up of
the juke joint and kind of like when you're seeing
them like it did feel like, I'm like, did.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
Y'all want to try that Calfish? You didn't want a
Calfish anything? I want part I wanted to go to
the joint up until uh, what's the dude in the
cotton guy cotton out was like, man, you cooking that

(52:59):
dirty ass grease. I look back. I said it was
black as hell, double down, the double down and said
she never had argument was in an argument, I believe,
never flashed back to that.

Speaker 12 (53:16):
I believe because because he was a vampire and he
was just saying some But they was gone in the room, bro,
when they were talking about the money, right, it was
that room for a minute, that motherfucking fish was burnt.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
Brying fish.

Speaker 7 (53:37):
It though they had people they had, I didn't see them.

Speaker 4 (53:39):
Niggas, we want you to fish. She was making a sign.

Speaker 7 (53:48):
And they have the help is the ladies and the gowns.

Speaker 9 (53:50):
They the language of the movie was like, Bro, the
Asian threw me off because they all had that.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
To even Haley Steinfeld said like.

Speaker 9 (54:03):
But to know that you you can get the right
actors to invest so deep that it changed, like you
know what I'm saying, like everything, like I said, everybody
going crazy, why because it's like.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
Bro, hold on because she really like like I see
like she's really white, real.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Like she got.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
Yeah. Brandad apparently was half white or half black half Filipino.
But you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (54:28):
But I felt like even in a strategic at that time,
that was considered Yeah yeah, but in a strategic thought
process of a director or a writer of him or whatever,
it's the perfect person to get.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
That's why Ryan co so to get that. And then
she can still deliver you such an amazing ming voice,
Like I wanted to screen looking like, bro what she said?
She said, boy, get out of my face, said that
that's what she had. I was like, what threw me off?

(55:00):
Seeing her in Hawkeye do what I'm saying and then
heaving I had already built like a.

Speaker 7 (55:05):
Feeling she was in Yeah, she knew.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
She's the new she was Supergirl. No, but listen, that's
what threw me off, Spider Glen, the fact that she
the fact that I saw her in that format and
she was so innocent and so like, and then you
see her in this and it's like, damn, you was
a whole You was an actual like the mindset because

(55:34):
of how she approached everything, like she approached everything money first,
or you know, benefit first.

Speaker 6 (55:38):
When I was like, that's that's just what stack because
she knows what STA.

Speaker 5 (55:44):
Remember she said, she even when she said she was like,
I beat all these bitch that you don't want to
talk to me.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
Fight no, no, no. Stack taught her everything about what
I'm saying. To see her get into that character. Oh yeah,
you know what I'm saying was amazing because, like I said,
I just watched she bet this innocent white girl.

Speaker 5 (56:05):
She would have gave me dad and hawkey. I probably
would have liked her. I would have liked Kate Bishop,
but I don't like.

Speaker 6 (56:11):
Like I know, we don't know.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
That was That was the Ryan Coogler got.

Speaker 9 (56:21):
What, like I said, for us to go, like for
us to start from talking about black classic movies and
things like that, Like I said, this ensemble is like
it was amazing, Like this ensemble, it's not even a
lot of people, but you think the right people.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
To make such a full movie, like a full f like.

Speaker 6 (56:37):
And I love seeing the interviews that everybody is having
about it. Like I was watching Omar Omar Miller's.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
I think Miller, yeah, one on one would do this
interview with him.

Speaker 6 (56:47):
He was talking about he was talking about the like
the movie itself. Obviously we've seen all the del Roy
Lindo's ones. I'm a mispronounced on me. I know her
first name is on me, that last name is gonna
all her all her interviews have been heard Hailey Seinfeld
and Michael be Jordan together essentially like they went on
they went on a junk kit together. You could tell.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
And then I saw was great. Also we got to
talk about Jack O'Connell, that nigga.

Speaker 6 (57:14):
That's the other thing I was gonna say. Jack O'Connell
killed it a candidly. Let me know that twenty eight
years later is about to be a maze. He's gonna
be the cut leader in twenty years later.

Speaker 4 (57:25):
Something. We were in there.

Speaker 5 (57:26):
Oconnell because and also, like I said to what you
were saying, like that he had I forgot who he had,
but he had actually actual Irish people.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (57:34):
The two people who were with him, they both are
actually singers.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
And so that's how he got that lore and that
like cultural ship and everything like that, like bro Brian
Coogler went in his bad and everything.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
Like his character.

Speaker 6 (57:48):
If somebody was talking about it on social media, how
upset that he got every time somebody was like, oh,
you white, you gotta be racist.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
He was like, no, no, doucle, but you know, but.

Speaker 5 (58:02):
Even even then he it was like a Thanos type
of situation and his in his mind, he was like,
this world ain't never going to accept y'all and let
y'all be free. So I am going to give y'all
the power to need to be family, have the tribe
and everything. In his mind, he thought he was doing.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
Because he's not racist in his mind. The reality is
at that point it's racism against him. You're you're the dead,
we're the living. So for y'all to be talking about
the blacks, he's like, I don't know about nothing. As
my mind, we're just I'm just trying to But did

(58:46):
y'all notice though, so just in the technical parts of it,
right with the color gray and everything, did y'all notice
how they became so much darker once they were bitten, yea,
their eyes like the way that they like Cause I
noticed that at first, where it was like, yeah, it
was a dark setting and maybe it was a screen,
but I kept noting. I'm like, man, I wish it

(59:06):
was a little brighter because I can't. I'm like, wait
a minute, you can't see the eyes because that's their souls,
the windows to the soul. So lose. It is over.
And the only time that you saw cornbread eyes is
when he got up close and he was trying to
fake it, but then it turned red. I was like, dude,
the detail of that was amazing to me, bro, And.

Speaker 5 (59:27):
Then I said Cornbrad that bro, he was sous, bro,
you have me, even when he furst and he was like,
come on now, man, let's just stand there, go ahead,
let me in.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
He was like he was like, he was like, we're
doing all this and we need to be doing what
we need to be doing. He was like, what do
we need to be doing?

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Well?

Speaker 4 (59:43):
He was living on everybody he was talking about. When
they asked him, like, bro, you ain't never had to ask,
He's like, excuse me. Then back I had the politeness
of disrespect was crazy. I don't even know why I'm

(01:00:04):
talking to you. It was such a moment where you
feel like if they bet that bigger. He was like,
I got this.

Speaker 6 (01:00:14):
Trying to get a pick there, but I got.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
To go back like the scene were oh boy, what
like the dude?

Speaker 6 (01:00:26):
Who they thought?

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
They talk? When they grabbed that thing, I'm like, did.

Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
Cut?

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
I immediately when they up the ground, like wait a minute,
you know what I'm saying, Like, but look though, after
further thought though, because at first I felt bad after
first thought that was his fault because why are you
still drinking? It was though they're still drinking, just thought
them out. They picked them up.

Speaker 11 (01:00:56):
That wasn't That wasn't the same dude know to do that.
They got beat like he had already. They already taken
him out after they beat his ass. That was a
nigga that got cut. But you can see the cutting
his face.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
He had got member stack picked him up, I mean
smoke picked him up after he got cut. And then
I think he just kept drinking.

Speaker 6 (01:01:12):
Oh you know that is okay because I thought I
thought it was a dude who who got his ass.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
And I'm like, he got his ass to the point
he was just knocked out.

Speaker 6 (01:01:20):
They focused were just leaving him there after he got
knocked off, I realized that he got thrown out.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
That beer was good as a bit like that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
It was.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
It was like it was Irish beer and Italian wine.
So he was getting fed up off that wine, he
said he was. And that was so crazy.

Speaker 9 (01:01:37):
Even in that thought process when I was listening to
like these niggas getting down off some beer and wine,
brog like that already now, so.

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
When the vampires finally get there they get to the door.

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
Also, that interaction was fired, like we jumped too far
ahead because I wanted to talk about that interaction with them, with.

Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
Them at the door trunk and with everybody's like nah,
like what you're doing here? Like like I enjoyed the interview.
I mean even when they when they I love the
Native Americans only popp thing once. I love Ryan, forgive
them us that, yeah, like and I felt they were
like y'all, y'all, y'all got it, y'all got what ya
got it.

Speaker 9 (01:02:15):
It was like I thought, in my mind, I'm like, Okay,
well they're gonna say today, so they gonna pop at
some point, make me.

Speaker 6 (01:02:19):
Talking about I thought that I didn't think I thought
they would show back up, but I didn't think I
was gonna say today because to your point, when you're
earlier talking about like oh tropes and vampire movies and stuff,
I immediately knew that the ending was gonna have to
be sunrized.

Speaker 13 (01:02:32):
Because that's the only way they will saying today because
they they made it the point to say some about
to say like they were trying to so they know
enough that they obviously know enough to know like, hey,
we ain't gonna be able to get them in the
in the night fall.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
I mean like they survived. We gotta come back next year.

Speaker 9 (01:02:50):
But really that's what it is, even crazy because that
wasn't It wasn't twenty four and in the sense it
was like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
Like god yeah, but so yeah, so that was good.

Speaker 5 (01:03:01):
So, like I said, so then, like I said, after
the music scene, like I said, that's when we realized,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
The scene that was was great was the Irish dancing one. Yeah,
where where you at the movie? Where you at?

Speaker 5 (01:03:16):
He's talking about after no, no, no, you know you're
talking about the first No, I'm talking that was after
I'm trying to jump back some I'm trying to jump
where you at the movie where you talking when they
first get to the door three three after the birth room.

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
Experience. Yeah, saw Preacher Boy and he wanted that music.
That music. Yeah, okay, because when they came to the door,
like even he like because he was like I don't
even know that he was.

Speaker 6 (01:03:47):
Like heard of, and that's what I'm like, heard Like wait,
how y'all heard, but how that guy.

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
Bitchup in this motherfucker like he was upset. He was
really bad because he.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Was like what what the what?

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:04:02):
WHOA? He's like, I we should want to play man,
We mad, We we make some good ass music, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:04:07):
Keeping with the song, Yeah, first started absolutely because it
sounded so I was.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
Picking up picking something a party like you're picking. I
picked him clean. I was like, Yo, this is a
good menacing that song. Song was perfect for the moment
because that song, because it sounded like I said, that
was right when I was dancing to that ship creeped
out ye.

Speaker 7 (01:04:40):
Into a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
That's what makes sense why Corn was going crazy. So
we're gonna get to that one. But whatever, the people
they knew that song was gonna track.

Speaker 5 (01:04:50):
But also, you gotta think about it. We picked the
clean right, That was a very like they literally picked
the juke joint clean. It was literally good foreshadowing song.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:05:00):
Yeah, And I think what I'm saying like that saying
even in that space, I'm giving them another good question
because I had the same question that somebody was like,
y'all wonder if Perlin was just lying like she was
trying to play hard to get like she had a husband.

Speaker 11 (01:05:11):
She ain't had a husband, like she had a husband,
but she ain't had no husband that night. You know
what was on the day by herself could have been
deployed though I could have been.

Speaker 9 (01:05:23):
I wanted to say in that part too, because like
we were talking about the characters whatever that set up
where like where uhre she parly everybody had the introduction
there where he was like about it, like yeah you
It was like y'all gonna be there to night.

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
It was just like as soon as you coming, like
when she walked there and you like are you are
you you walked in, gonna walk in with her husband,
and that it's gonna be a thing because what she
walked in and she just trying to look damn.

Speaker 6 (01:05:56):
But on the off chests that she do like you know,
she really did not.

Speaker 5 (01:06:00):
So I would have loved focus right now before we
talk about the next scene. Did y'all catch the theme
of the actual sins that are in it? I called
it early on. So so the reason why I didn't
take her husband's going because I was like, all right,
I was like, well, she like to me even though
the juke joint was like it was beautiful to see.

Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
I was like, well, this is really a house of sin,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:06:20):
So I was like when I saw her walk through,
I was like, oh she here the sin, each person,
each work.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
But you if you noticed, the only one who wasn't
a sin lived, well he didn't live, he wasn't turned
into a vampire. Yeah, only one. Everybody else died, yeah, boy, yeah,
everybody else died or became a vampire except for the
one who wasn't. Everybody everybody else had a different sin though.

Speaker 5 (01:06:47):
Yeah, everybody was like you know, there was people who
were like saying, who killed still honored my father, you know, adultery,
like there was that people was there was a whole
lot of everybody that was there had a sin to
the alcoholism, doing drugs, selling drugs, prostitute s, like everybody
there had a sin to them.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
Yeah. He just said, yeah, he didn't have it. Yeah.
So when I started walking through that was like, I
was like, you know, but boy got shout to breaching.
Boy listen. He listened. She said, boy, let me watch up.
You good.

Speaker 7 (01:07:21):
I just want to.

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
You wanted to see.

Speaker 5 (01:07:26):
You had Also the seasons, the sexual undertones because when
she said your body didn't forgive me nigga, I felt
that nigga was.

Speaker 4 (01:07:34):
Somebody was talking about. Actually it was Mike.

Speaker 6 (01:07:37):
He was like this, this undercuts how how much you
don't necessarily have to have a sex scene for a
movie to feel sexual.

Speaker 5 (01:07:44):
Absolutely as a big bro, she said, she said, she said,
you just spend on ey time getting that, but you
can't spend one night on this pus You rock train,
you rocked train.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
I forgot what something else? You can't? Up right? Just
say action and watch hand he say that ship. Bro
was throw my every line.

Speaker 5 (01:08:06):
Every every line that the women said in this movie.
I would have folded like optimist pron rolling out nigga.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
I'm telling you why this thing about that line? I
almost missed it because I felt in my vibe that
after she went outside, I was like, damn, she's finna
get real right, Yeah, I mean you got to the bathroom.
So I'm walking down the stairs. Luckily we always now
go to the top row at the movies, and I'm
walking down and she and cornorate letter in. I'm like, damn,

(01:08:32):
like let me hear it. Run So I get that
that's what she I heard I hear it before I
even hit the corner. I come all the way back people.
I heard other people say it or to put it,
you know, on the wall, Like she didn't say that,
Like who said that? She said? She said she even
like I said when he say it.

Speaker 9 (01:08:51):
But when we talk about the movie, pretty much was
like you, even though it was good, it became predicted,
but it was like, that was my moment, right, like
when Nyley when they went she like, let me go outside,
and like that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
Was a predictable moment.

Speaker 5 (01:09:03):
To me.

Speaker 6 (01:09:05):
In the trailer, you saw her as you already saw
you saw her already.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
That was going to be the turning moment.

Speaker 5 (01:09:11):
But also the one thing that I did, Like again,
this is funny because like you, you don't you don't
understand what themes Ryan Coogland may intended to do or
just it was a happy accident, right because I feel
like this might have been a white savior happy accident
because I don't feel like he ever positioned her to
really be a white savior. But you gotta think about it.
They were trying to figure out the money situation. She

(01:09:32):
was like, we gotta get this money. She walked out
there and agreed yeah, and so when that happened, I
was like, oh, like that's what the things that I
looked at her.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
And then but then, like I said, because like she can't,
she went out there. We're really with no fear.

Speaker 5 (01:09:44):
She went out there, and even that she was turning
her back to them, she was sitting by them and
ship like that. Like and then but everybody else looked
at him like, yo, who's the weirdest white people?

Speaker 4 (01:09:52):
She was like, we just gonna get some.

Speaker 9 (01:09:55):
I feel like, I feel like I really enjoyed that
space of her even it was really good to see
someone who in the beginning we already knew she was
out of town living as a white person, enjoying life.

Speaker 4 (01:10:08):
So she came back leading for this night. I came
back because her mom, her mam had whatever. And that's
the thing too, I think what made her comfortable with
the white folks, with with the folk white folks because
she was married to a Arkansas white farmer who had money.
So the folks singer think about it and that in

(01:10:30):
that periods travel, if you wasn't signed, you wasn't in
a band, it's not too you know, it ain't too
far fetched for you to be a trio. Oh yeah,
we just want to play some juke joints. Gets a
little money and you know. So for her to say, damn,
let me go out here and talk to these white folks,
I think that was the like I said, it was
the hustler, the degreed because you flipped. You only want

(01:10:53):
to hear who can go out there and relate to
these folks and talk to them on the level where
they're gonna, they gonna down their guard, they're gonna give
me if they racist or not. Yeah, And that's what
I think. That's what I think really was her downfall
was you too trusting to your own absolutely, and they
don't get you.

Speaker 9 (01:11:09):
But I mean and every and I feel like in
that sense it was really that because I feel like
it's also for me.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
It was like pointing out that and not saying it
in a bad way.

Speaker 9 (01:11:19):
But it's like, yeah, if you if you are utilizing
your whiteness, I guess in the sense you're saying you
never gonna like now you're trying to weaponize it, and
it is still hard, like it still hurts us, Like
you're saying, it's not a benefit for us if you
using your whiteness to bring that into our.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
Space, because that's faces supposed to welcome us. The King's
point about it being greed her and because she came
to Stack with the plan obviously, but he that's that
was the whole thing. He like that, Yes, you know what,

(01:11:55):
and he was, but that's but you if you notice,
that's always the difference is like everything was perpetuated on greed,
even man kill everything. Like you noticed when when he
killed Annie Smoke was I mean, Stack was pizzed greed.

(01:12:19):
I want us to be a family.

Speaker 5 (01:12:21):
They wanted the family, and they wanted that magic because
you gotta think, you gotta think the They got the
hive mind right. He wanted the music because he knew
that that music would attract more people to it. He
wanted that magic because that magic is only going to
help protect us and make us stronger.

Speaker 4 (01:12:35):
He knew.

Speaker 5 (01:12:36):
And so everybody that was already turned, they was already
on his same mission. Yeah, we want the community, but
also let's make us strong. Let's get all the strong
pillars that so we can bring it and so that
that you know, they was heavily upset in regards to that.
So when when when Mary turned, When Mary turned, how
did y'all feel in that moment.

Speaker 4 (01:12:57):
I mean, I mean when they snuggle. Yeah, like I think,
I think it hurt my heart. It hurt my heart, dude,
hurt the brothers. Like when she got in with.

Speaker 9 (01:13:09):
I was already mad with and like I said, like
I said, it was for me, it was a traumatic
experience of downhill pain when they the moment that Mary
went outside, because I'm like, y'all, finna let her. Everybody
loves Mary, so she's gonna come back in with no
fucking problem. So I thought she just was gonna just
bit cornerd on top, like soon as she got to
the door, she's gonna turn around that nigger like till everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:13:30):
Come on there you're sad.

Speaker 9 (01:13:31):
Like I thought it was gonna really just be a
massacre right there and there. So then when she came
in and went straight for Stack, is like, are you
going right to the source? And in that moment, so
this is my moment of this is obvious.

Speaker 5 (01:13:45):
Is when Cornbread was like I gotta go ship and
then he left, I was like, all right, oh yeah,
you right right when.

Speaker 4 (01:13:50):
That happened, that was my obvious But again it worked.

Speaker 5 (01:13:53):
I was like with it only and I think, and
it's two old mar Benson Miller's like his the way
that he portrayed cormorated and everything afterwards, Like because of that,
it didn't bother me that that was just the obvious
trope of somebody got turned because he was.

Speaker 4 (01:14:08):
When he came back. He came so man had to
pis boy, you've been going for the head of ship.
It works so long because so yeah, so you know
what I think.

Speaker 9 (01:14:25):
I think I love that they gave him the time
because bro, that chased down, Like, I did not think
I was gonna do the chase down cha when it
was him running to the door, like the dude was
like blacked.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
Out of the door. They called him like this speared it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:39):
Like. But the way that they shot Hailey Steinfeld, like
with the first realization of her being a vampire, that's
that scene, which was obviously in the trailer as well.

Speaker 6 (01:14:49):
But that scene, oh week, so obviously, like you said,
we knew she was a vampire from the trailer because
we saw the we're gonna kill all y'all. I thought
she I didn't. I didn't think that she was gonna
be with the family was crazy. The whole set up
to get it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
I was like.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
To see, like I said, to see that's gonna say.

Speaker 9 (01:15:08):
It was such a crazy thing to see that part
of the trailer, and then when you see her, even
just when her first introduction, just like.

Speaker 6 (01:15:15):
Oh, I thought it was because when you hear that,
it's like a nineteen thirty two period piece, you think,
obviously the Klan gonna be I think they're gonna be
clean vampires.

Speaker 4 (01:15:29):
Cleve wires I am needed though they was playing vampires
so much. I thought we was doing one of those
kind of moves.

Speaker 5 (01:15:39):
Remy would have been pissed at me, not along like
Bro slavairescar.

Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
Loki. I thought the same thing until until the opening
scene when he got out the car. Bro I assumed
that it was gonna be like a liaison or he
was gonna pull into the building something somewhere. It was
gonna be like he ain't gonna get into the sun
watch and he's gonna it's gonna turn around to be
KKK vampires because it makes sense. I feel like it
was like some Inglorious Basterds types, and like I thought,
I thought it like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
That vampires they are they're like, but we don't with
the Klan like what what when he when he walked
into the house, when when Reyman walking into the house,
he saw he saw the people's when.

Speaker 4 (01:16:23):
Clan roads there, when it when it went back to him,
you can.

Speaker 6 (01:16:26):
See how I got to end.

Speaker 4 (01:16:29):
Okay, so it's playing vampires. Heah, And I feel like.

Speaker 5 (01:16:32):
I feel like based off of like I said, because
like you said, you have to think they also went
through some racism in their home homeland and everything like that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
So I feel like he made it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:40):
He definitely was like, oh, I'm about to fuck y'all
up and change y'all, but I'm about to fuck y'all up, especially.

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
Slaves too. So it makes sense that especially for that
period that every friends, well, think about it, you had
four races, the Asians, the Natives, Blacks, the Irish, or
and then white well and then Clan White. So to me,
I think that's what it kind of symbolized. It don't

(01:17:08):
matter what race you are at, then this motherfucker won't you.
You know what I'm saying, because you know what I mean,
he's a high mind.

Speaker 9 (01:17:15):
So like even if you were in the Klan, once
I bite you, you're working with me anyway, you feel
Clan Vampire that he was born a clan like you
had like to be a vampire.

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
And you hate niggas. That's just that's, like I added,
like your dog blood. Because can.

Speaker 9 (01:17:37):
You saying I don't bite niggas, Like that's crazy hive mine,
Like that's a crazy high mine, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:17:46):
And so yeah, like I said, she had her change
moment and then like I said, uh, Stack shot her.
She was that's when she her multiple s multiple times
she jetted out ship clip on, ship hit the fan.

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
We realized, like I said, we realized cornbread and the
motherfucking no, that's what that's what Stack is, the vampire
you just did in the door. That's for Adie started
coming in clutch. He was right because it was corn
bread first that closed the door. Then they hear it
didn't Stack because remember Stack ran he opened the door

(01:18:21):
again and they had to close it again. Oh yeah,
I'm saying cornbread wasn't turnt that that. It was yeah,
walking up as and he ran out all that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
It was like.

Speaker 5 (01:18:32):
Yeah like cood all on, yeah yeah, yeah, because that
was gonna say after that moment, like I said, you
have that that moment and then that's what I said,
that's for And he came and started.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
Coming in because she she was on who the entire time.

Speaker 5 (01:18:46):
Yeah, and like I mean obviously sent me also uh
uh black smoked smoking smoked at the amulet that was
protecting him low key, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:18:56):
So yeah, that actually that comes up at the very end.
Noticed before he went through the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
Because obviously want to be protected. He wanted to evil
to come and keeping up.

Speaker 6 (01:19:09):
It was keeping him alive essentially. So at the end
he was just like, bro, I done lost too much.

Speaker 5 (01:19:15):
She when she cause she even called it, she was like, wait, wait, wait, waite,
why you why you need to be invited in?

Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
Yah, I said this, We got the whole funny situation,
like I look.

Speaker 9 (01:19:23):
Like, like the height what what what they called what
she called them in my height hatest hates and it
was I looked that up. It was crazy because it
was like I had not heard it till I started
playing Start This Midnight the crazy thing.

Speaker 6 (01:19:35):
And I'm surprised you don't remember my mom used to
talk about I was telling them when South the Midnight
came and I was like, Mama, there's a game where
they talk about hants.

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
I was like, I'm sure some of the videos.

Speaker 6 (01:19:47):
She's like, so she's going to because my dad used
to always call it mississippivoodoo, Like I.

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
Was like a big joke in our family. He's like, no,
that's that Mississippi Woodoo. I think your family just made
it up. Blah blah blah. So I was telling him
about the game with it, you know, he was like,
you know, we're all laughing about it.

Speaker 6 (01:20:03):
Then I go see Ciners I'm telling him about I'm like, mama,
and guess what they was talking about.

Speaker 9 (01:20:08):
You know, it was so crazy, definitely crazy to hear
the second time. I like so because even when they
she caught on like they hat like they're saying, like, but.

Speaker 4 (01:20:18):
Then did Stack wake up? And even when even when
Stack wake up, that that.

Speaker 5 (01:20:24):
Really that's that was the knife twisted because you knew
he was a vampire and he was like Stack that
shoot and like hell no, man, Jim Crow open up
the door, Like yeah, I was like, oh ship, this
is about to be sucked up. And that's when you
really realize.

Speaker 6 (01:20:38):
It's crazy that the vampire lord because like obviously you know,
vampire's got to be invited in.

Speaker 4 (01:20:43):
It's crazy that it goes down to the room.

Speaker 6 (01:20:45):
I didn't know it was down to the room.

Speaker 4 (01:20:47):
Yeah, I didn't know, or guess maybe as you get
trapped for it wasn't down to the room it was
locked because it was.

Speaker 7 (01:20:56):
It wasn't.

Speaker 5 (01:20:57):
But so going into that scene, I thought it was
that and I was holding hope out that. I was like,
so if they opened the door, is he's not gonna
be able to get out.

Speaker 9 (01:21:04):
What I what I do love and at one point
in bodily but I know you needed it for the
for it to go on. But it was like the
fact that they were like terroristing niggas for a minute.

Speaker 15 (01:21:14):
This straight back out of the house was like, boy,
y'all can wipe everybody out of eight Like Stack could
have wiped everybody out immediately, like hey, no, no, no no.

Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
It was always funny to me to see them like
like get into that ship right because I think what
it was too was I don't think they lost feelings
like they you became part of the hog mind. But
he just felt the same feelings you feel for your people,
and that's why he was trying to coherse everybody instead
of like until old girl. Then it was like fuck

(01:21:51):
it because y'all now are just violent against us, like
we know what's going on with y'all, but now we're
gonna make y'all by fource right, you know, because it
was so few numbers, and then they was trying to
pick people off. So I feel like that was the
whole thing. It wasn't we trying to We're not trying
to make you do this, but if we have to
at that point. But I did.

Speaker 11 (01:22:09):
I did one second. I didn't have a gullible moment though.
The moment for me was when Delta Slim dismissed the
party and sent everybody out.

Speaker 4 (01:22:18):
I'm like, okay, everybody forna make it. I was just
about to bring that up.

Speaker 5 (01:22:25):
I want to say, how did y'all feel when Delta
Slim said everybody way? Because immediately I was like, why
is everybody leaving? Some ship just went down, you know what.

Speaker 4 (01:22:32):
I was really mad at that point. I'm like, Annie,
just stuff the fuck up and say they still didn't know.

Speaker 11 (01:22:42):
It was haint, so it's like, okay, yeah, she was
still putting everything together, because.

Speaker 5 (01:22:46):
That's what that wasn't until Cornbread couldn't get in that
she said it ain't hat, it's vampire.

Speaker 4 (01:22:50):
Because remember that's when, but everybody was already gone, though rumored.

Speaker 6 (01:22:54):
How she got stacked out with she threw pickled garlic. Yeah,
which is crazy to have pickled, Like, is that the
old time mark? I think that was hers Listen, if
you stay ready, you ain't got to get ready.

Speaker 4 (01:23:08):
I think it was because she was the cook, so
she wouldn't have it, you know, literally everything. Yeah, yeah,
but yeah, so garlic. So at that point whenever I
was like everybody.

Speaker 5 (01:23:25):
But what pissed me off was when Grace's husband was like,
I'm gonna get the car read I'm like nigga yourn.

Speaker 4 (01:23:32):
That was also still during that That was right before
he didn't know they didn't know.

Speaker 7 (01:23:35):
It was at the same time.

Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
I said, if you're part of the in the crew,
you ain't just the regular. You made the sign. Remember
he wasn't in charge, he was married list she was
the boss.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
This is just me.

Speaker 4 (01:23:51):
Hey, we gotta go get to our daughter. Because remember
he was initially like no, let's just find out, yeah
and see what happened. He was like, hell no, we
gotta be.

Speaker 7 (01:24:00):
What about Lisa.

Speaker 4 (01:24:01):
We got.

Speaker 11 (01:24:03):
Kids moment, Let's figure out what was going on. She's
like no, no, no, nigga, what about Lisa.

Speaker 5 (01:24:08):
So so now we get to the second dance scene,
and that's what I wanted to say, because that dance
scene was hilarious because I feel this is this is
the two people I watched was with Stack and Cornbread
was going crazy. That was the equivalent of a nigga
who was like, like you ever see that video that
was like we always gonna be cool anywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
It was a dude that like a Mexican party the food.

Speaker 5 (01:24:32):
I said, Stack was literally like a nigga that like, hey,
I don't know about what y'all was saying about with
y'all he shout, but cornbrack.

Speaker 4 (01:24:44):
Cornbread with feeling that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
He was with it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:49):
But I also think a lot of the actors was
vibing because they were they bro When the niggas started
doing the happy feet and they was just a yeah,
he left these wrong free. I would have been so
lost because I can't like I can't remember, I can't
I can't do I can't do that.

Speaker 6 (01:25:12):
You think about what they probably told him on set,
Hey we're gonna do this big dance number.

Speaker 4 (01:25:16):
This the second one that might not even be the
second one they shot, Like maybe they shot in the order.
So he was like, bro dance number part too, bro
go crazy already, you're already loose.

Speaker 9 (01:25:27):
I had to get your head about the music. Big
going like music right and so that, and then again
he probably had some actual Irish people.

Speaker 6 (01:25:42):
Said they was actually, I don't know if they're Irish singers.

Speaker 4 (01:25:45):
That's the singer.

Speaker 6 (01:25:47):
I'm sure if you if you took out the time
to make sure you had.

Speaker 4 (01:25:49):
Well, I think he don't you have a connection the actual.

Speaker 6 (01:25:55):
Irish last Yeah, I think Irish.

Speaker 4 (01:25:57):
Yeah, I think he has an actual Irish heritage. And
so you know, I'm saying added to it and everything
like that.

Speaker 5 (01:26:03):
But also, like I said to me, what I loved
about also the themes of music in the places. This
was their battle song before war. It was they was
getting prepared to go to war. And then when they
pulled it.

Speaker 6 (01:26:14):
Up, this is when you get all the exposition about
him going to Sammy and being like I want your signs.

Speaker 4 (01:26:21):
Yeah, hey, but that husband both this nigga walked up
on her bro after Cornerbread tackled old boy. Yeah, that
ship was the funniest line. At that point, there was
probably like they know we're here at this point they're
like kind of like he wasn't.

Speaker 6 (01:26:44):
Because this is after the confrontation, so he definitely it was.

Speaker 4 (01:26:48):
He was still right there. That was my gull of
a moment. At first. It was like what you there?
Because I thought when he walked up, he was gonna
see this and like, what the did he get scooped?
Like I thought he wouldn't.

Speaker 9 (01:27:02):
I thought I thought they were playing with him, like
we gonna let it get into the car and go back,
because like we could get a both out. But I
thought I thought, because like you said, now everybody knows
they like, can't you just playing and just scoop this nigga?

Speaker 4 (01:27:14):
That guy he was, like you say, it was I
start like a comet the call let's go. When they
filmed it too though, because like they filmed everybody leaving
the building. Yeah, and then in the back camera view
you see niggas make it to their car, Like niggas
got in their car. The cars were moved, they were
getting they were on the road to I didn't think

(01:27:38):
about that to just now they probably playing that whole
thing got in the first place. I look, it's four
of us. Now we let the niggas leave, five of us. Now,
we'll let the niggas leave happen. And to be fair,
though a lot of them didn't have cars, a lot
of them walked there.

Speaker 11 (01:27:50):
They got off got off work on the planetation and
walked right over like so like it wasn't let you
go like you.

Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
Think everybody going there sat parades. They got trying to
pick y'all off. You saw a fast movie. And the
thing is, like I said, the reason why they weren't
trying to kill it was more let me get you
that he bit her. They big cornbread nigga. It was
a one bite. If I saw you, I just saw you,
and you flagged me down. I'm gonna stop. You know

(01:28:18):
what I'm saying, I'd be more likely to want to converse.
And he no, no, they said it's all good. We shaid,
we come back and bite your ass right back.

Speaker 9 (01:28:26):
Oh yeah, I mean, because I guarantee you cornbread turns
a lot of the at the first black motheruck everybody
let remember.

Speaker 5 (01:28:32):
But he sucked up there and got shot in the head.
Corporate right with the JA that was that was he
about to get people, but he can't.

Speaker 4 (01:28:42):
He he showed back up and got shot. I know
that everybody got. I'm saying I said prior prior to Jaw,
he probably get. Now he can't get nobody. I can't
get nobody now. Obviously he had enough time to catch
them like kings to a lot of niggas.

Speaker 5 (01:28:59):
So now I we need a geek sets official stance
on this because this was the polarizing Are we mad
at Grace or not?

Speaker 4 (01:29:05):
Fuck Grace? Fuck Grace like fuck gay Definitely, because it
was selfish. It was very much selfish. Did you put
everybody at risk? Because what you know, she was greedy
to catch all this. She was a part of the greed.
So you you just sign the go set up all

(01:29:26):
that ship. You knew what this was. It's a jew joint.
You know it's illegal. You knew that they were gangsters,
Like you pointed all this out from your vibe from
day one was about how much money you could squeeze
out of this deal because you knew it wasn't right.
You didn't give a y'all left y'all daughter at the
store by herself and the Delta nigga. You are shister

(01:29:47):
and I and that's the thing, Like she was so
shisty that she was the first thing they said, we
need to stop and plan. Fuck all that, I'm mad.
This is about me. You you didn't care. You didn't
care about the black people from the get go because
y'all always gonna get treated y'all got treated differently in

(01:30:07):
the first place in the Delta, as as Chinese people
at that time. So that's what the show. I felt like.
Her her no hesitation was like the clear sign like, oh,
I'm with you when it's time to protect me, right,
But when I knew my husband was an aw nigga,
fuck that, me and him gotta go because that was
the only way I could protect my daughter because he

(01:30:28):
know where my daughter at and if I killed him,
they don't know because it's high in mind, but he
has to lead him there, right, Yeah, I mean yeah,
I mean it was a lot. It was definitely like
she did.

Speaker 9 (01:30:38):
She had went through the whole level of everything, like
fos y'all talking about because you're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
Immediately she ain't waste no time.

Speaker 11 (01:30:44):
Yeah, because if it wasn't for them covering her mom,
she would have left bow In from the moment.

Speaker 7 (01:30:48):
He walked up. Absolutely, she was at that point. She
was not thinking about nobody else other.

Speaker 4 (01:30:54):
Than her and her family. And that's cool, right, But
like King said, you hadn't thought about her all night,
like y'all been gone all day.

Speaker 7 (01:31:03):
Y'all left her at bro.

Speaker 4 (01:31:06):
Soon as by herself.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
Bro.

Speaker 11 (01:31:08):
She was in the window like watching them like definitely
like y'all leaving me like there was like she she
had no thought about that until until the ship hit
the fan.

Speaker 4 (01:31:22):
Here you seemed on the fence. I wanted to get
since opposing.

Speaker 6 (01:31:27):
Thing because I I hear what y'all saying, but I'm
not gonna act like a lot of people not gonna
do that same thing for their kids.

Speaker 4 (01:31:36):
It was perfect.

Speaker 6 (01:31:37):
It's I think to the point of like the kid
around people like that was the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:31:44):
Like it wasn't like it was. It wasn't back there.
They cared back people. You have family that you have friends.
This is the thing. But that community don't know. We
don't know who she left her daughter with. Nobody, you
don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:32:00):
She said that she had to store by herself. Gryson
Bow said that she got to stop by herself.

Speaker 4 (01:32:06):
That's why it was her whole rationale to send him
out there to warm the car up and then like
we got to get out of here because because she's
there by herself. My thing is this, right, our era
is different from their era, so we have a little
bit more comfortableness with leaving a kid of teenage or
whatever in a in their home. That era, thigga, you

(01:32:28):
had robbers, you had all kinds of people and that
that would that would do something. No, no saying, I'm saying,
you have here. We have police, we got cameras, got locks,
we got safety guards, safeguards from you know, if I
have a fifteen year old, I'm I can leave him
at home. Then, thigga, people were walking around. You just

(01:32:49):
saw that niggas walking around robbing and shooting dad daylight.

Speaker 5 (01:32:52):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:32:52):
I think that's what that's my thing about. My thing
about their reguards for her safety. For the money showed
that that was the sin right there. It was the
greed of hey, look we getting money at the store
all day, but he just offered me fifteen dollars. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:33:10):
But I think to my point, says, I.

Speaker 4 (01:33:12):
Think it's actually the opposite because even with our parents,
we hear so.

Speaker 6 (01:33:17):
Many times about how like, yes, there were people went
around doing stuff, but the community you knew who the
niggas was in your community.

Speaker 4 (01:33:24):
You know the community and how.

Speaker 6 (01:33:25):
You do this, So I can't act like they probably
felt comfortable doing that, going to do this get some
extra money because they knew the people in the community.

Speaker 4 (01:33:34):
They knew that.

Speaker 6 (01:33:35):
Even if somebody is going around they hit one house,
they know that the community is going to rally around
make sure that the greater overall community.

Speaker 4 (01:33:44):
I think it was that they knew all the bad
guys was gonna be with them in the first fucking place.
Like we if I go to this juke joint that's
supposed to be the crackingness in the town by the
smoking stuff, all the people that would do some bad
shit gonna be there anyway and can get up out
of there before they get drunk. And you know what
I mean, Like that's my theory. Very well, very well

(01:34:07):
could be. I'm not sure. I looked at it as one.

Speaker 6 (01:34:11):
Like I said, I definitely could see them feeling like
in a community of everybody that we know, we can
feel comfortable doing that. Like now we got a new
variable that this nigga and showed up. We don't know,
so now now we are on edge because it's like, wait,
there as people who we don't know, who are outside.

Speaker 4 (01:34:27):
Everybody don't eat about wife. Folks nobody recognize.

Speaker 6 (01:34:32):
So that's why I'm like, I can understand now that
the the the I guess the worry ratcheted up, and
so I can see her being like, hey, you gotta
get out of here. We need to get to the family,
all of that. And then the the leading the men
that just y'all talked about tropes, that was just another.

Speaker 4 (01:34:49):
Trucks just like.

Speaker 6 (01:34:54):
Happened, not even just the destruct the person who they
could be all right, fine, if if I'm going to
go out at the end of the day, I'm an
fight my way out.

Speaker 4 (01:35:05):
She wasn't. That wasn't her region, but she was. She
was the mom on legion she is she is the
entitlement that needs to I need to get my husband
out of that. Yeah. But what that was so two things.
One going out part. I didn't think that deep into it.

Speaker 5 (01:35:23):
I just feel like they was like, all right, is
a joke, joint We about to go kick it, you know,
you know the deal, stay here, stay at the shop
until we get back.

Speaker 4 (01:35:29):
Right, They're definitely done it more more time. Yeah, I
don't think it was like, oh, we know, we know
the community, we know, they were just like, hey, we
about to go kick it real quick. We about to
go out.

Speaker 6 (01:35:37):
But I'm like, you comfortable because you're like, we know
the community.

Speaker 4 (01:35:39):
I don't even think that.

Speaker 5 (01:35:41):
I just feel like they were like, hey, you you know,
don't answer, like, don't don't don't answer my answer, But don't.

Speaker 4 (01:35:48):
You know as a black person in a black community,
I mean, my parsents no matter here to do. What
I'm saying contrasts forties thirties aged person. I still think
of that big bro hear me out in that community.
You already looked at it up here. You the store owner,

(01:36:09):
y'all got y'all, got y'all dressing. And what you're saying, right,
that's what I'm saying. The thought process of leaving your
daughter in the store where y'all probably lived there too,
by herself, I don't think that would have happened. They
probably would have took her in real world, or you know.
The only reason and goes back to what MacCarty said.
The only reason why I think it's different and the

(01:36:30):
only I see I agree that what you're saying only
go back to what guard first said. We are dealing
with these southern Mississippi.

Speaker 5 (01:36:38):
These are different type of Asian people, and because I
feel like they will take on the same tropes.

Speaker 4 (01:36:42):
Yo, Mama Lisha that don't listen.

Speaker 5 (01:36:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:36:48):
The only only reason why I would say it's different,
it's because just in that and that stereotype. You know,
as business owners, they always have their kids part of
the business, like she was legit still running.

Speaker 4 (01:37:01):
The grocery store, like there was no don't let the
body in all like she would have. I don't think
it was. I don't think I had nothing with the
community everything. I feel like they was like mom and dad.

Speaker 9 (01:37:13):
You know, you're not saying about community things like if
they're in town and they are part of let's say
the business district. Yes they know all the shop owners there,
so they Yes, they have left their kid there. You
got next door owner.

Speaker 4 (01:37:29):
I don't think they lived there. I think it was.

Speaker 9 (01:37:31):
I think that was the point is like Nigga is
after hours, she's still there. We go get her and
go home. I don't think we're gonna I wouldn't say
they live in the store.

Speaker 4 (01:37:42):
They may live. You know some people here's I wasn't
even pissed.

Speaker 5 (01:37:49):
I was.

Speaker 4 (01:37:49):
I was pissed that she was she was like, come
on in and everything like that. I was more pissed.
And she threw it at him and not just on
the floor at the planning. Her plan was to go
out with him.

Speaker 5 (01:38:00):
That's why I said. It wasn't a I'm talking about. No,
I'm talking about when she threw that remedy. We're talking
about the male taf right. Yeah, she threw it with
the intent for it to splash over her husband too.

Speaker 4 (01:38:13):
I know, but and I know I get that. I'm saying.
What I was actually mad about from her was that
she didn't just throw it at her feet. Yeah, that's
what I was like. I was like, you couldn't That's
what I said, because it was I do agree to
do this. She she didn't invite because she really him. Man,
she invited him. Yeah. Yeah, I mean saying here, I

(01:38:35):
know everything about you, like to get your pussy leg.
I was like, bro, what did you all remy? I
was like, what is you all right?

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
For him?

Speaker 4 (01:38:44):
That's for the god. But that's how I knew. That's
what I was like, Damn, that's great, that's but how
would she even know if he would have forgotten it? Though?

Speaker 5 (01:38:53):
You know what I'm saying they were show his thing
and this is I guess my my naive moment.

Speaker 4 (01:38:59):
Then it was like I was like, all right, we're
doing the grand stand, so all right.

Speaker 5 (01:39:03):
Fuck it, we're here now you throw the barrier stopped
them for a minute, and then everybody, you know what
I'm saying, that's I'm thinking this that So when she
made the first like how your first move is a mistake.

Speaker 9 (01:39:14):
I mean, but that's what I'm saying, Like because like
I said, when when pretty much her scene like started
directing the movie, like I said, it was all the trumps.
Treat me Like I said, it was either used to
let your husband in or you finish go outside there
and say something saying. So it's like when she when
she got to grabbing a bottle, I'm like, this motherfucker.
So now I was really were mad, no one, just like, cuz,

(01:39:35):
who the fuck are you? I will to knock you
the funk out.

Speaker 4 (01:39:37):
Like.

Speaker 5 (01:39:39):
I do want to ask you because this has been
another thing that I've been seeing on the timeline, the
gore level. A lot of people were saying it was unnecessary,
it was a little bit much. How did y'all feel
about it?

Speaker 4 (01:39:49):
Perfect? I thought I thought. I thought it actually with
a balance of from throughout the whole the whole movie,
it was people with the bloods flatter, blood spelling out
like the.

Speaker 6 (01:40:01):
First vampire movies.

Speaker 4 (01:40:03):
This was tam Yeah, they could, they could have winding
way harder. Especially you gotta think, like I said, they
weren't trying more gory. Yes, absolutely, Remember they had guns
inside and the vampires was like shot guns and all that.

Speaker 9 (01:40:19):
Like I mean, I give, I definitely give like to me,
the blood and gore was Tarantino level level, but it
was Tarantined inspired.

Speaker 4 (01:40:26):
Yeah, in the sense the end, And so.

Speaker 5 (01:40:29):
That's why you're telling people people when they ask me
about Gore, I was like, well, do you consider Tarantino
too much gore for you?

Speaker 4 (01:40:34):
Because I said, if it didn't even like if it is,
then then this might be too much for you.

Speaker 5 (01:40:39):
Because it's in that it's in that field But I
don't even think that's what I said.

Speaker 4 (01:40:45):
I said the exact same thing.

Speaker 5 (01:40:46):
I said, it's in that field house, but it's not
as gory as it so I wanted I wouldn't even.

Speaker 4 (01:40:50):
Say it's even as gory because like I'm a Gore fan,
Like I watched nigga all the horrors, y'all know that, right.
So to me, this is like side of the lamb gory.
It's not like terrified glory. Think about terrified. That spectrum
is that it goes from beginning to end is gore.

(01:41:11):
This had gore probably three you know. You know what's crazy?

Speaker 5 (01:41:18):
It's the same gore level that we getting with this
season of their double Yeah, similar that.

Speaker 4 (01:41:25):
Obviously there's obviously there's I get what this is. Obviously
there's more actual.

Speaker 6 (01:41:30):
Blood because people are dying like the vampire you have
to bite you to see the blood. But in terms
of like how gratuitous it is, that's actually perfect. Remember
they're double and spoiler. I guess we haven't seen that
crazy bro.

Speaker 4 (01:41:44):
Yeah yeah, I was like, what.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
Is going on.

Speaker 4 (01:41:53):
Netflix? Yeah, I completely forgot that was on this.

Speaker 5 (01:41:56):
But again, like I said, that wasn't too much to me.
I was just like, okay, yeah with it. So, like
like Gardy says, to me, this was a perfect.

Speaker 4 (01:42:03):
Realistic that's realistic gore for what happened. Like if you
what you would expect if you shoot some niggas with
a Tommy gun, it's gonna be blood if you if
you stab a person would have would a steak, it's
gonna be blood like it just wasn't like you know.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
What I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:42:20):
I don't like when I when I think evil dead
evil evil, I think a squirty.

Speaker 6 (01:42:30):
I would have said, because I think I think the
color grading help that too perfect. So it was so
dark and not even dark in a in a negative way,
like it was so like it's nighttime, so clearly it
seems felt dark enough.

Speaker 4 (01:42:43):
So it's like you hear the sound of the blood.

Speaker 9 (01:42:47):
I feel like it was pulled out people when people
thinking about the going on it, because there really is
a great there's a great art in actually like hearing you.

Speaker 4 (01:42:57):
Saying like this like that.

Speaker 9 (01:42:59):
It was even when she just eating on stack Max
and you hear that walk in like that and the
blood squirting or coming out of a bike, like all
that is considered that's like.

Speaker 4 (01:43:13):
Blood. You're gonna hear the blood is gonna come out
like that's just the fact that it is. Like especially,
but the thing was I felt like with that you
heard his heart stopping with the pulsating like they had
when they had this ship. I don't think I caught
that like you could actually feel like and hear the
like the way it was squirting out, yeah, like oh yeah,

(01:43:33):
he's still alive. And then he's like smoke, you know
what I'm saying, I love you and no more sorting
and it was like ship, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:43:43):
So the two big fights at the end, we got
Sammy and Rimmick and then we have smoking Stack. I
thought that the way that it was shot, and even
with Sammy and Remick quoting the prayer, you know what
I'm saying, that was like, you know, it was more
that was really a more of a good versus evil
like you said, oh did you who said that? One
of y'all said that he was the only one that
didn't sin, Like yeah, like you having that and then

(01:44:05):
you're having the ultimate sin, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:44:08):
So it was like, I mean, it was great.

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):
It was just like like.

Speaker 4 (01:44:12):
You can tell right in that moment that preach was like,
my daddy was so fucking right.

Speaker 6 (01:44:18):
And I just saw I just saw a real about it.
I think that cemented him being like I'm still gonna
tell the blues because in the Instagram world that was
basically saying how obviously my king was saying earlier, how
that guitar was sort of the symbol of the sin sin,
but also that guitar in the moment is what safe music.

(01:44:43):
Very in credit scene where he is playing this little
lot of mind, they were also talking about how that
shows how even in the face of even the face
of the ultimate sin, this little lot of mind that
that blues music. This thing, it's not a music of sin.
It's the music that got.

Speaker 4 (01:44:59):
I think.

Speaker 6 (01:45:00):
I think in that moment, that's when he was like, oh,
I have to play the That's when he realized that
this is.

Speaker 4 (01:45:05):
What I was they for. This isn't.

Speaker 9 (01:45:08):
Because I mean and I feel like I feel like
even in that space of like realizing like it ain't
because you know, it is the guitar, but it's like
but it's like, no, I can do this, like like
that guitar and like you said that the guitar was
the symbol of the sitting everything comes to, even even
to us it to kind of save his life. It
was like he just kind of had that even when
you know, in the church with his father, he just

(01:45:29):
realized like, bro, I don't that guitar, I don't need
that guitar, but I can still. It's like you say,
like reminants of it. You can see it, and I
had to go back and rewatch the first one.

Speaker 6 (01:45:38):
Luckily it's like they got I think it might have
been in the trailer, but he's literally holding that guitar.

Speaker 4 (01:45:45):
He is, I mean, as you would. I feel like
if I still had a piece of what I used
to give, like yea on the wall, like so too
was the symbolism, Like the symbolism of the guitar was
the call? So like if they ever had, like you know,
they said, like the horn calls the angels. You know
what I'm saying. For him, he knew that was the

(01:46:06):
symbol but like I said, I forget it. I believe
the dad knew that too, Like this ain't like dude
thought it was a famous guitar. You think the dad
didn't know that that was his brother guitar, you know
what I'm saying. But the dad was also I know
what music is. Like I hate to say it, but
it's just like the movie Coco, you got move you
have to. The music has always been looked at as

(01:46:28):
they make it only for people in the streets, only
for the sinners to do bad. But it's not the
music fault. It's just what the people who like it,
you know what is going on. But that's the catch
to the whole thing, was like he knew at that
point when the Irish dude, when the vampire was saying
the prayer to him. Bro, reality, it's not it's not

(01:46:51):
that this is the problem. You could be evil, you
could be good and you know prayer, you know the blues,
you know fun. It's up to you. So that's why
he said when his dad gave ultimatum, hey man, what
you're gonna do. You're gonna give it up and then
you just give up on music completely. Like I feel
like I said, it's just like and now I'm not.

Speaker 5 (01:47:11):
Giving up ship, right, And I don't know if again,
I don't know much about guitars and ship like that,
but I feel like I didn't see a lot of
guitars with a metal fucking mid play like that, like
the fact that like a silver metal demate.

Speaker 6 (01:47:24):
Actually in the in the interview with Lou Weigg and
Ryan Coogler, like they a podcast was talking about apparently
that guitar at the time that is so that other
thing because it brings out.

Speaker 4 (01:47:42):
Amplifying stuff. So it helped amplify the sound, okay, because
I was like, because the fact, so the fact that
that was used as.

Speaker 5 (01:47:51):
The weapon and it just happened to be the one
with the I was like, that's that was like to me,
was like that was made it so cold because it
was a silver and then so you know with the
small is.

Speaker 6 (01:48:00):
That I say it also goes into the point of
what Darren Lindo's carry went. Dela Slim was saying earlier,
how remember that his whole thing his dad was in
the blues. Music attracts the supernatural, and the supernatural immediately evil.
That's immediately evil, especially for churchgoers.

Speaker 4 (01:48:14):
So when Dulas Slim was like, oh, yeah, you know
I rushed with the devil many times and.

Speaker 6 (01:48:21):
I'll let you know that he's gonna make sure everybody
get out, which is called the fact that he really did.

Speaker 4 (01:48:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:48:26):
Yeah, but you know what I mean, it is because
I mean even when you think about like in the
spiritual like the devil whatever, it's like, even even with
some saying that's like, that's just in the sense it's
saying like Nigga, I have been in this music has
been so good old nice that it has had.

Speaker 4 (01:48:40):
So much shit going on.

Speaker 5 (01:48:44):
As a supernatural fan, right, Yeah, and even just knowing
about the Crossroad Demons. Have you ever noticed that the
only time that they talk about a famous person and
music wise, it's always a blues player.

Speaker 4 (01:48:55):
Always.

Speaker 6 (01:48:57):
That's always, man, this.

Speaker 4 (01:49:03):
Is some good ass music. Man, we got to make
the deal. I would put me.

Speaker 7 (01:49:09):
I can't remember.

Speaker 4 (01:49:10):
It's funny because I watched the video where they correlated
that that Sammy's character was based off.

Speaker 11 (01:49:15):
Yeah, but who I can't remember the name now, But
it's a book where the oh yeah, they say that
showed the soul to the devil to be really good
at the guitar and whenever he played the guitar, will
bring back ship around.

Speaker 4 (01:49:26):
That out tricked the devil, challenge them and he would
beat them. Yeah. So that's how I know it was
a song about black playing or whatever. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:49:37):
So the Smoking Stack went down to Georgia.

Speaker 4 (01:49:40):
Yeah, he had had a fiddle. Yeah, the Smoking Stack fight?
Did it turn out?

Speaker 5 (01:49:45):
How?

Speaker 11 (01:49:47):
I want to get back to the I didn't get
to stay my part about Sammy and remick that scene.
For me, it was the symbolism that represented and came
on and me and my my eyes was the fact
that It kind of resembled a baptism, did for sure,
you know what I mean with the backdropping of the.

Speaker 4 (01:50:07):
Around they doing that kind of slow walking walk up.

Speaker 11 (01:50:10):
The the pastor that the pastors that they chose to
repeat and say, you know what I mean, just all
of that that moment right there, it was it was
kind of him being baptized into his next set of life.

Speaker 4 (01:50:23):
But it was really that too.

Speaker 9 (01:50:24):
It was the baptism of what was like, if you're
really looking at what's you know, who's gonna win. It
was the baptism of that, Yeah, whoever come about this water,
don't come out new Yeah, whoever came about this water
and everything like that.

Speaker 5 (01:50:36):
But with the smoking snack fight did it didn't come
out like what because the twist did throw before I
thought at least one of them was going on like
I thought, at least it was going to follow the
trope that Smoke was going to win, like he was
going to save the day.

Speaker 4 (01:50:51):
Yeah, ok, yeah, in the sense he did. Yeah remember no, no,
no no, But I'm saying that the happy ride out
he lived everything like that.

Speaker 5 (01:50:58):
He did.

Speaker 4 (01:50:59):
He chose to go, that was what he wanted to do.
He got bit and died shot.

Speaker 6 (01:51:08):
He's that he remember he's end up stabbing Remmick through
when when Stack was about to bite him.

Speaker 4 (01:51:15):
There's he had the little silver sothing. There's there's thought
that he that.

Speaker 1 (01:51:20):
That's what.

Speaker 7 (01:51:23):
Kept him away.

Speaker 6 (01:51:24):
But some people are like, is it also the fact
that he was fighting against his brother because even still
obviously Stack couldn't kill his brother.

Speaker 7 (01:51:32):
Yeah, couldn't kill his brother.

Speaker 11 (01:51:34):
Yeah, because the Smoke ended up getting up in him
because of that. Because Stack was he was going to
bite him, that was was in his mind, like you,
I'm gonna turn you so we could continue being I
know you.

Speaker 5 (01:51:46):
I just want to say what I thought, and then
I let everybody go. What I had thought was that
Smoke got bit, but because of the roots that he
had from women him and he didn't turn. So when
he took it off, it was that it was more
of like a slow turn. So he was like, my
final stand, I'm taking out these crackers, And I meant, yeah,

(01:52:07):
I saw he got shot, but I thought that, you
know what I'm saying, I thought that he was.

Speaker 4 (01:52:11):
I thought once he took it off, he was already
in the pouch. She put garlic, she put bone, she
put like other things to keep evil away. But that's
why I remember he didn't know he like, I don't
think anybody got that close to him, no vampire, because
when was gonna bite him, you noticed he didn't push
him away. He had to fight corn break right, but
when he got him, So I know now I know

(01:52:36):
based on what y'all tell me.

Speaker 5 (01:52:37):
In that moment when they were shown, I thought he
did get bit and then I thought that he just
it was that that roots were stronger than the motherfucker that.

Speaker 6 (01:52:44):
He had that slow like I think, like I said,
I do think, like realistically it is probably like you said,
all the stuff that Andy put in there, but I
think it is very much more, way more poetic to
be like at some point stat like like you said,
their emotions are still kind of there. Yeah, so it
makes way more sense. STA was like, bro, I can't
kill you.

Speaker 4 (01:53:06):
Like a natural I want to.

Speaker 6 (01:53:10):
And so obviously there's.

Speaker 7 (01:53:11):
Smoke, but I did what you're saying.

Speaker 11 (01:53:13):
But for me, to me, the point is like Stack
would want to do it more because if I don't,
You're going to die eventually, you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (01:53:21):
You're my body now, yeah, you're my brother family Because
Mary had.

Speaker 4 (01:53:25):
Already ran off like the times were starting to turn,
but he was and I think that's what that's what
the reason why I would have felt he would have
still been him. Yeah, it felt like you need me
like I need you and I don't have nobody.

Speaker 6 (01:53:38):
Because I would have he said that I don't want
to do, so it gives you another thing to think
why he might not have.

Speaker 4 (01:53:44):
That's what I said. I agree why he probably pulled
back because it was probably like, damn, I don't want
to do it, but I want to do you know
what I'm saying. But at the same time, the pouch
probably sure because because you could have he could have
just would have been him on the arm or you know,
the leg or something. But I also think he did
it because when he got on top of him, nigga,
a vampire, you just busted a door downstairs, super streng

(01:54:06):
have pushed your brother.

Speaker 5 (01:54:07):
He definitely pulling. But wait, so if Stack hadn't have
gotten shot, what do you think he would have did?
Then you think he would have win and tried because
if he hadn't.

Speaker 4 (01:54:17):
Be fine, he would have been fine. I think would
have still And then at that point was something else
like I don't think. I don't know because I think
he wanted to be with his family.

Speaker 6 (01:54:28):
Yeah, it wasn't like he it wasn't like he didn't
have injuries from that fight. Like he was the vampires,
even if they don't bite you, they were still calling
that nigga.

Speaker 4 (01:54:38):
He was so at that point, he think he was
what do you think killed him?

Speaker 5 (01:54:41):
The shot?

Speaker 4 (01:54:42):
The bullet.

Speaker 9 (01:54:45):
Was he definitely got the shot that when he shot
by the white dude was definitely beleaning him where he
took point because even when he when he really killed him,
he was like.

Speaker 4 (01:54:54):
Sitting down like it was like.

Speaker 5 (01:54:59):
Because if it if it ain't what I said, and
then I'm doing it. On the shot, it's just the
culmination of all the wounds. The shots is just the
final nil and the cough.

Speaker 6 (01:55:08):
And essentially I feel like.

Speaker 7 (01:55:09):
He got he never got shot, because.

Speaker 5 (01:55:13):
If he never got shot, then I would say that
he would have he would have survived from the wounds.

Speaker 4 (01:55:17):
But you're saying you don't think he would have survived
from the woman. I think I think everything because I
think the fact.

Speaker 7 (01:55:21):
That the get that beat up at end of the day,
he didn't he didn't get that beat up in the fight.

Speaker 9 (01:55:26):
But I also like, like I said, when he got
when he took off, when he took off of took
the I feel like that was just kind of like
even if you say that space like you've been saying
for so long, he got anything happening. But my theory,

(01:55:47):
my theory actually is that Stacks in a sense snapped
out of it because of Remy getting killed. Like in
the middle of the fight, he was.

Speaker 7 (01:55:59):
Killed kill.

Speaker 4 (01:56:02):
The sun.

Speaker 7 (01:56:08):
Burned him up and turned him the ash and.

Speaker 4 (01:56:12):
Killed.

Speaker 6 (01:56:13):
If that stake through was enough to kill him without
the son, it was because he was It wasn't like
he wasn't moving.

Speaker 4 (01:56:20):
He was still going ahead. It would have would.

Speaker 9 (01:56:24):
But that's what I I didn't immediately didn't think he
was there once what she didn't disappear after Remy And
I'm like, well he's not bid, you know what I'm saying,
that's how you know.

Speaker 4 (01:56:32):
But what I didn't know I was to have you
on the roofs strong. What I what I was really
throwing about, because I was like, they didn't shows what
he did with him, you know, saying in the fight.
So I'm just like.

Speaker 9 (01:56:45):
I had a very very very like small percentage that
he killed him I was like, he definitely let this
nigga go.

Speaker 4 (01:56:51):
I ain't gonna hold you.

Speaker 6 (01:56:52):
I thought they both. I thought him and Marry both.
I remember Mary running off. Yeah, but I was like
they both clearly had to die after I'm like, where
the hell they know?

Speaker 4 (01:57:02):
So Mary, Mary threw me because she got little they
got a little right up, and I kind of figured
she wasn't gonna be in the fight no more. Yeah,
because I was like, but it was the way that
they showed her running.

Speaker 5 (01:57:17):
She got little, guest, but she still got a little
They showed me. You saw.

Speaker 6 (01:57:28):
Like y'all don't know what the high.

Speaker 4 (01:57:31):
It was like.

Speaker 9 (01:57:33):
So that I mean, that was like a little because
I was like, I feel like in the time span
of that and coming up, I'm like, did y'all go
back to the.

Speaker 4 (01:57:41):
House, like going back to the hive? Mind? They could
have had that knowledge.

Speaker 7 (01:57:46):
Yeah, yeah, they could have had the knowledge they had mind,
but you know.

Speaker 6 (01:57:49):
But where they go though, Like you said, well, we
never seen anybody ever, Mary, I got no answer for you.

Speaker 4 (01:57:54):
So this is this is really about step no answer
for you from Mary. We never seen anybody ever go.

Speaker 6 (01:58:00):
Back into the juke joint.

Speaker 4 (01:58:03):
Yeah, So that entire time turn during the battles was
just in the middle, like damn, you can't but thrill.
He should have still been in there because nobody watching

(01:58:24):
the fight, Like hell, you know, I mean, but keep
it real. He could have been up to now, I
mean they could have been, but more sense he should have.
That would have been powerful in my mind. You need
to then you lose the.

Speaker 5 (01:58:43):
But imagine the powerful on this of it, like all right,
I can't kill you, you can't kill me, but hey,
we're gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:58:47):
Come together and kill these mother fucking crackers. But that's
what I would have.

Speaker 9 (01:58:52):
Been here for that, and then to like after after
after getting of course, like the second like getting the actually,
but that's what that's what made me. It made me
even more clear understanding that he That's why I believe
he was in the house, and that was I'm gonna
defend you, because if they're getting this motherfucker pass me,
they're gonna be him anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:59:08):
Yeah, it's gonna be problem for you know what I'm saying.
So I felt like it really to me.

Speaker 1 (01:59:12):
Was a.

Speaker 5 (01:59:14):
Of you, not because I so that they were gonna
throw this duke duke joint and the reason why he
already had the guns there because the whole plan was,
we know the plan, let's suck him up because of
what we learned, do that.

Speaker 4 (01:59:29):
I said, to get it. They knew what it was.
What I'm saying, So I'm saying that.

Speaker 5 (01:59:35):
I did that.

Speaker 4 (01:59:37):
That warning that he gave them was a premonition. I
come back. I I thought the card he was saying.
The only reason why he did that was the protect
you know. I mean, I think I think even in
the even even in the big, even in the big
you know plan of it, it was gonna be both
of them out there. He had guns, and so it's

(01:59:58):
gonna be both of them down there hand.

Speaker 9 (01:59:59):
So it was like, but it's because of this, like
I said, because of what he did with Stack and
leaving him in there is like, all right, well.

Speaker 4 (02:00:05):
We still gotta handle this. You know what. I wanted
to keep this going. I think that's why you stayed outside,
because it's got shot went in that would have bit out.
This is what I think. I don't think he was
in there because he tried to roll his own cigarette.

Speaker 7 (02:00:19):
Yeah he don't. He don't roll his own cigarette.

Speaker 4 (02:00:22):
Stack would have rolled his cigarette. Still didn't walk for
that cigarette. Of course he would have. They already had
to understand you. If I let you up off the
ground and you choose it not to go fuck with
Sam for all these years, that means you are cognitive.

Speaker 5 (02:00:38):
Well there we saw Remick. Remick didn't kill just anybody.
He wasn't just blood. Look and even at the end,
like you said, you see statue like they they're able
to be composed himself.

Speaker 4 (02:00:46):
But when they got a mission, I mean, I mean,
I mean family rolled him up before you went. I said,
I know you gotta deal with So that was he
probably smoked him up, die nigga on purpose. Like him,
he probably was like yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:01:04):
And then so you know, we get to we get
the last scene with Stack and he finally seen his baby,
but he had to kill that cracker smoke and smoke.

Speaker 4 (02:01:11):
He finally see his baby, but then you had to
kill that cracker first, which is crazy. That shows racism,
even in the even in the midst of death, will prevail.

Speaker 5 (02:01:19):
He was he was. He was calling him all sorts
of niggas with the hard art and I'm like, bro,
you are about to die.

Speaker 7 (02:01:25):
Remember trying to give money, trying to give him money,
and they gave him the cigarettes.

Speaker 4 (02:01:30):
Because at first he wasn't gonna give him the cigarette.

Speaker 9 (02:01:32):
No, that's why, that's why you had the cigarette. Talk
about up now, I got a white dude getting cigarette
and gave him cigarette.

Speaker 5 (02:01:38):
And then so then we get the first the make
credits mid credits scene when you see Sammy playing.

Speaker 6 (02:01:43):
Y'all talking about y'all had y'all moment of just yeah,
I ain't gonna hold y'all. I thought was gonna walk
through because I was like, it's gonna be I thought
it was gonna be a thing of evil always coming back.

Speaker 4 (02:01:56):
So that you again, you didn't you playing all these years,
let me let you know what you didn't did. What
would have been.

Speaker 9 (02:02:03):
Cold would have been if somebody came in and they
just said, like remix remixer regards.

Speaker 4 (02:02:08):
No, because that then that leads you open thinking like, oh,
we're gonna have us a sequel.

Speaker 6 (02:02:12):
I think this needs to be a one off. I
think just having Remick come in and being like, let
you know what you what you've been doing all these
years and this that's it.

Speaker 4 (02:02:20):
But here's the thing I do. I do believe it
is still similar to that.

Speaker 5 (02:02:24):
Right even though that's even though that Stack's cousin and
everything like that still still because and the music is
still coming, and you know what I'm saying, they still
drawn to it. He's like, man, I got all your
album because we listened to it NonStop. I feel like
there's still it's still giving that like no matter what,
even though Remick was the wrong shade of color and
it seemed different like oh somebody else, but it's still

(02:02:45):
showing this music no matter what, it's appealing to us.

Speaker 4 (02:02:49):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (02:02:50):
It's vam period coat and whatever like that. And you
know what I'm saying, he showed up looking like the
seventies hustlers.

Speaker 4 (02:02:55):
You know what I'm saying, that.

Speaker 5 (02:03:02):
Nineties hustling, what you like, I said, goes to young
thugs being a prophet. Hustlers don't stop.

Speaker 4 (02:03:07):
They keep going. You might lose your life. But if
you keep going, you might lose your and then we
get like I said, the other one, like said the
second one. So it's more of a flashback, but yes,
I feel like it's a flashback.

Speaker 6 (02:03:23):
Also saw somebody saying that they think it's him at
the end of his life.

Speaker 4 (02:03:29):
So I missed it because you know, you're talking about Sammy.
Somebody said that they saw a shadow and they said
it was him selling his soul. Somebody said his reflection,
like it was it was him choosing, him choosing, because
I actually recorded because I was on and I got it.

(02:03:49):
I watched it. The theaters are mad, but they'll be okay.
But like, I don't know though, because I feel like
it was him playing, probably playing for his dad. I
don't think it was him playing for the devil or
playing for like himself. I think it was him playing
for his dad, like I'm gonna choose to stick with

(02:04:11):
the blues, and this is what I could do with
the blues. Instead of you thinking it's all sinning and sex.

Speaker 5 (02:04:17):
And all that.

Speaker 4 (02:04:18):
Let me show you my rendition of this. You know,
this little of mind, That's what I thought. Shout out
to his dad though, Saut Williams very well known poet,
and Arthur I was sitting there and watching it. I
knew that because I'm watching it. I'm like, he looked familiar.

Speaker 7 (02:04:41):
I didn't put two and two together and toil.

Speaker 11 (02:04:42):
I watched Tony Baker's review and he was like, oh, yeah,
you know, shout out to South Williams.

Speaker 4 (02:04:46):
I'm like oh that was Williams. The first time, like
you said that we can ask haircut.

Speaker 6 (02:04:50):
Then the second time I was like, the fuck is that.

Speaker 1 (02:04:54):
Will you?

Speaker 5 (02:04:55):
But you know, so I wanted to way to the
end to say this as my final wrap up in
regards to this, because I said, you know, what's great
about this movie is that we just did all this
deep diving themes and everything like that about and everything
like that. But for those who don't even deep dive
into it, this is just an enjoyable movie, right, And.

Speaker 2 (02:05:12):
I love this.

Speaker 4 (02:05:13):
This is going in Jordan Piel's movie.

Speaker 5 (02:05:15):
This is going in Jordan Peel territory, where of those
movies where I remember when get Out came out and
everybody had all these theories about everything.

Speaker 4 (02:05:22):
So what Jordan Phill did. He did that thing where
he was like, all right, I'm both in front of
this college and.

Speaker 5 (02:05:25):
I'm gonna talk to all these high people who pick
apart films and everybody's theories and everybody was saying all
these theories.

Speaker 4 (02:05:31):
And he was like, I like it.

Speaker 5 (02:05:32):
He was like, I didn't think about that. I just
did that because I thought that was a cool shot.
And I was like, it's so hilarious.

Speaker 4 (02:05:37):
That this movie is so so great that it has
all these themes and everything. We can pick it apart.

Speaker 5 (02:05:41):
We can say this, we can say that, like we
can say this is what this mean and everything like
that and right be like, man, I just thought that
was gonna.

Speaker 4 (02:05:47):
Look cool on camera and shit like that.

Speaker 5 (02:05:48):
It's such a good film all together, like for the
film buffs and for the casual goals. Everybody can enjoy
this ship.

Speaker 4 (02:05:54):
Yeah, like it was. It was so it it's such
a great motherfucking movie. Man, Like this movie we're gonna
do great when it goes to HBO or when it
goes to stream or TV. Because I think that's the
thing that people who still don't do theaters or haven't
been like, oh I'm ready, Yeah, they gonna see this movie.
But like I should have saw this. It's gonna have
a research. Yeah, this is the this is the real.

Speaker 6 (02:06:15):
I feel like this is you know, I don't know
if y'all saw Netflix CEO, Oh people don't do.

Speaker 4 (02:06:19):
People don't know. I think he was shook after seeing
this because it's the thing too, they've been trying to
reinvent film in the theater to make it more like, oh,
this is a tenants and uh, what was the one
with Leonardo DiCaprio.

Speaker 6 (02:06:38):
Once upon a time in Hollywood?

Speaker 4 (02:06:40):
Yeah, even that, like those the truck, bro, they he
trying to come with different angles, different background sounds like
I get it because like Avatar, it's another one y'all
trying and it takes a lot. He just proved you
don't have to do all that, bro. You just have
to have a great story, good good angles and creativity

(02:07:01):
and look what you can create for the But it's
not even just like great investments because you like the
big screen, like this is for the big money. I
would pay a true Imax theater to play. This was
looking up the closest ones Indiana and we were like,
but here, I would pay to go there. But here's where, here's.

Speaker 5 (02:07:27):
Here's why I think that the ties has changed and
why it can't do that right, And this is the
this is this is where I believe the positivity of
podcasts come from. Where some people like don't like podcast
or whatever like that, and the long form content and
talking to the unsung heroes in general. Right that, right,
we have been seeing more and more people behind the
screen getting that superstar treatment, right, And I think that

(02:07:49):
because of Ryan Coogler and explained that, bro, I've seen
hood niggas talk about cinematography. Now, you know what I'm saying,
you gotta lean into those people that are that are creating. Right,
We're in that era of the creators, and I think
because of that, you are, like the actors superstars. They're
superstars in every right and day are supposed to be,

(02:08:10):
but we are the as a superstar you're unless you
are studying the like just the form of acting.

Speaker 4 (02:08:16):
A lot of times people will go, oh, who's in it?

Speaker 5 (02:08:19):
Michael B. Jordan of Fuck with Michael G. Jordan, I'm
gonna se it, Well, she s in it, she'd be
killing Rose. I'm gonna see it.

Speaker 4 (02:08:23):
Right.

Speaker 5 (02:08:23):
Then you'll have those stage those stage actors who are like, oh,
I like this actor because of X, Y and Z
and they're throwing it.

Speaker 4 (02:08:29):
But the director also being a star in this form
that pays a lot.

Speaker 5 (02:08:36):
That helps a lot, because now you got people who
are like, oh, I understand this, oh, and you know
what I'm saying. You got people breaking down and then
other podcasts breaking down long form content talking about the
aspect ratio, the color grade and stuff like that, and
it creates this whole new ecosystem of why film in
theaters matter because it's like, yes, you're not going to
get that because everybody's not going to have all this

(02:08:58):
type of equipment or is impossible.

Speaker 4 (02:09:01):
Right, So it's like you need that part of the
promo run and everything.

Speaker 5 (02:09:05):
You need the stars to be the stars, but you
need those creatives to also have a voice and have
an outlet to get that voice out to show that
creative process.

Speaker 4 (02:09:12):
That's why behind the scenes is so much.

Speaker 5 (02:09:14):
That's why, that's why, that's like, that's you notice everybody
now is doing a podcast a deep dive in every show.
We watched The Last of Us every day and at
the end of every episode it's a little quick podcast
clip game of Throne House and Dragons when they did
every after every episode a quick poda. Everything comes in
ties with that now because we now obsess over everything.
We want to know the insides and outside so we

(02:09:36):
can have intellectual conversations on camera and with people about it.

Speaker 4 (02:09:40):
And did you see this thing? We get geeked.

Speaker 5 (02:09:42):
It's not even the you know what's funny, it's not
even we used to it used to be see it first,
to be geeked right the ad I saw it before,
Like you know, IM said, that used to be the
movie experience. Now it's the ball. Bet you did you
see that theme though? Did you get this when they
was doing this? Did you see out like.

Speaker 4 (02:09:57):
Now it's more so.

Speaker 5 (02:09:58):
And I believe Marvel also was the play a hand
in that Marvel made so many Easter eggs a hot
thing that when you're that now people get excited just
to be like, oh, but I bet you ain't even
catch that, because you know, when the comics is this
walking down saying you know, and you know it's like
everything all based off of graphic novel or something else.
The Eastern edg thing, the Easter egg hunt became so

(02:10:19):
big that now people are paying attention to more things,
more themes about things. You know, all this movie is
this because it connects to this, and you I bet
you didn't even know about this in the past. So
I think that that's why, like I said, theater would
never I mean film and theater movie theaters will not
truly go out of business when you have people like this,
And we just got to make sure that these times,

(02:10:39):
these moments shine here.

Speaker 9 (02:10:40):
I mean, I think I think we grew into this though,
because movies and everything just became so much more available. Yeah,
Like when you can spend so much time bening everything,
you're gonna start looking at everything differently, Like.

Speaker 4 (02:10:50):
They're gonna try to figure out a way to find
more interest.

Speaker 9 (02:10:53):
Because I said it's easy as I say, like, it's
not something wrong in saying that, I know how this
movie gonna go, because.

Speaker 4 (02:10:58):
It's like I've watched I watch so much more now I've.

Speaker 9 (02:11:02):
Seen this story made play out in a movie. You
just want to know how good you do it, how
good you do it now?

Speaker 4 (02:11:07):
Like I know how this goes. I think that's the
thing with Ryan is like he's taking a method and
made it now because it's always been around. It ain't
like it's foreign, you know what I'm saying. People have
used these angles. I mean, these cameras, these lenses, They've
done this already. It's just the fact that you didn't
think it was They probably did not think it was
important to do it in this manner. Get away with

(02:11:30):
it and I get away with something else.

Speaker 6 (02:11:31):
He said that, and it was when he was talking
with his cinematographer. I want to make sure I have
her name because she was he was the first black
person to be able to use that specific Imax camera.
She was the first woman. And what was so dope
about it was the last film that had did it
was Oppenheimer and she she is so her name is

(02:11:55):
Autumn draw Archiepyle. I probably, but your last name. I'm
so sorry, but she was. She was heavily influenced by
the cinematographer for Oppenheimer. That actually they were wrapped by
the same agent, and he always says Christopher Nolan is
one of his his big influences. So when they got
the chance to do it, they both were like, yeah,

(02:12:16):
we just called the person who last did it.

Speaker 2 (02:12:18):
You know.

Speaker 6 (02:12:19):
He was while he was able to text Christopher Nolan,
she was like, I was able to text a cinematographer,
like I said, especially having the same agent.

Speaker 4 (02:12:25):
But they are true film geeks and Coogler, especially talking
how he talked.

Speaker 6 (02:12:30):
He talked like a regular nigga from Oakland.

Speaker 4 (02:12:32):
You love it.

Speaker 9 (02:12:35):
I was glad too say it because I enjoy watching
his reels and stories and because it's like boy, get out.

Speaker 4 (02:12:45):
Out.

Speaker 11 (02:12:46):
I've been sitting on the thought process of just him
doing that, the real uh Kodak and him explaining the
movie right, yeah, and just and his all in his
glory right and all of that, the Oakland Glories, just
the accent.

Speaker 4 (02:13:01):
The style, like growing up, you can't be professional. So
it was funny.

Speaker 5 (02:13:08):
I forgot what interview was. He was like, damn, I'm
saying them a lot. And then it was like yeah,
he was like, but no, no, no, it's the Brefast Club.
He was like, man, it's cool man. You just thinking that,
You're just trying to get your thoughts. He was like, yeah,
I didn't think about it that way, but I need
to stop anyway. Yeah, I just fun with it, man,
Like you know what I'm saying, he also has to
do sith and you were and.

Speaker 4 (02:13:24):
Ship like that.

Speaker 5 (02:13:25):
You know what I'm saying, Like he's he's a genuine
good dude and everything like that. So man, let's say,
if y'all didn't see Centers, man, go see Sentators. Man,
we're gonna do quickis. We're gonna do quickie recommendations. Don't
don't go in depth. We go do quickie recommendations. I'm
gonna say, go back and watch your hood, your favorite
hood movies with your adult eyes watching my because most

(02:13:47):
of these hood movies from back in the day I
watched when I'm a kid, So watching them now, it's
like very different. Like you realize again, like I said,
picking apart themes and everything like that, noticing things. I'm
just like, Yo, these movies hold up very well. Like
I said, there's a lot of hood movies that like, yes,
there's a lot of trauma and drama and everything like that,
but those directors and actors really captured and embodied our

(02:14:11):
culture and who we were and growing up. You know,
especially if you grew up in another like that. It
was like, even though it was drama, there's still a
lot of beauty in it that there was strong messaging
in it, right, I said, I love the dualities of it.
So I would say, ye, go, go go check out
your favorite Hood movies. Man, that's gonna be my recommendation.

Speaker 9 (02:14:27):
Mayu is definitely you new seasons out, Last season's out,
Final Killer season is out.

Speaker 4 (02:14:32):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (02:14:33):
Joe Golbert doing what he does best. He does as
a fellow Scorpio Saluti, Jo go Bert, you said as well,
and finback he's Scorpio as well too, So I mean,
you know, said Scorpio energy out here fail.

Speaker 6 (02:14:47):
I'm gonna recommend Claire Obscure Expedition thirty three. It's turn
based rpg UH basically set in a time, it's like
set like the.

Speaker 4 (02:14:55):
It's like nineteen hundred frands.

Speaker 6 (02:14:58):
I feel like it was, but actually you're up against
this lady. She's called the Paintress. Every year for the
past sixty seven years, they haven't quite got to one
hundred years. She paints in the sky a number, and
everybody older than that dies. So in order to try
to finally defeat the Paintress, every year they also send

(02:15:18):
out an expedition to go kill her. So that way
you don't paint a new number and everybody dies, So
you are when.

Speaker 4 (02:15:25):
They say they never go like god damn. Essentially nobody
ever comes back from the expedition like that, I guess.

Speaker 6 (02:15:33):
And so essentially every year it's like, this is expedition day.
This is the night for expedition day, which is the
night that the Patress is gonna paint the next number down.
So she concluded she's counting down from so they got
they had one hundred years to defeat her, and you
on Expedition thirty three. How many times they them thinking.

Speaker 4 (02:15:54):
I'm gonna say my recommendation will be having new movie
on Netflix. Uh Copter Common dirty cop thriller. Uh who
is it?

Speaker 1 (02:16:04):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (02:16:07):
Bang?

Speaker 4 (02:16:08):
Tom Hardy? Yeah, starting Tom Hardy and Forrest Whitaker is
actually from the from the directors of The Raid. So
if you ever watched The Raid, you know it really
is you know how like the movements? Yeah yeah, bro,
same was one of the fast face as soon as
as soon as it come on, it kind of gives
you like a little drama and then it goes right

(02:16:30):
into it. Oh yeah, I mean the Rails, The Rails
all time favorite bro that. I was like, what's funny is?
I watched it at the shop and I'm like, damn,
this looks like The Raid, And then I just had
to go back out and read this and from the directors.

Speaker 11 (02:16:44):
For me, I got to real quick. The first one
was obviously go check out wrestlming. Yeah, nine one and
night two. That ship was fire. You know, just get
in there and consume a little bit of wrestling. It's
just just small eighteen hours of wrestling. It's nothing too
big here. I hote that down a little bit. But
something I found out recently, it's been. I think it's
like four far seasons now the Miss Pat Show.

Speaker 4 (02:17:05):
Oh yes, that's.

Speaker 7 (02:17:07):
Hilarious, hilarious. Plus I said, checked.

Speaker 5 (02:17:11):
Out, you've seen the video the dark Skin Mom lady,
she be cussing the ship out of her kids.

Speaker 4 (02:17:16):
Big, bigger lady, bigger, she be both, but she keep
it real.

Speaker 5 (02:17:19):
She seemed like like like she's definitely seemed like the
mom and the Hood, the one if you like, if
you like, if you was a kid in the hood
and you like, let's.

Speaker 4 (02:17:26):
Say you was doing something, did you get.

Speaker 7 (02:17:28):
Your ass somebody that motherfuckers like, absolutely, that's the missa.

Speaker 4 (02:17:35):
Miss Pat. Yeah, yeah, o G.

Speaker 5 (02:17:38):
Recommendation may go to geek set podcast dot com and
get you at the spring collection is motherfucking out.

Speaker 4 (02:17:43):
Like I said, you saw you see you see it.
You know what I'm saying. But Cardi doing this damn thing.
Commercials is gonna be coming soon, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (02:17:51):
Make sure you go to geek set podcast back and
check out all of our past articles. Check out all
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(02:18:11):
follow everybody's Twitch and social media. Like I said, did
been twitching like crazy lately. King been doing more reviews, tripping,
dropping out, dropping in more reels and everything like that.
But Cardi's been twitching more. I'm about to start twitching
more like. Yeah, we are out here, so you know,
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