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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Kara Bear my guest for the evening. You know exactly
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more performers come on the show. It's just that simple.
Kara Bear, thank you for coming on with me today.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Of course, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
A thank you for letting me restart a few times there.
I'm always honest with my audience. I don't want to
put guard.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Probably more than that.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
We'll delve into that. Let me ask with all that
you do, and I always start out with this question
everything you do. If you had to sum it up
into one word, not one word, one thing, what is
your job title?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I would say, I mean creator pretty is all encompassing.
But I'm not just a TikToker, so I'm you know,
I always say I'm an independent adult performer.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
There you go, and doesn't that feel like it doesn't
cover enough of the.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Way you do because there's so many things.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Right, You're a social media manager, You're an editor, at
some point, you're a writer.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I'm a producer.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Oh also hot woman who appears in front of the camera.
Like we haven't said talent yet there, which is right. Yeah,
So going into this did you have? I got to
slow myself down, give me one second. Let me ask
how did you initially decide to move into the adult
entertainment industry from where you were? Tell me you're story,
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and don't be afraid to talk because my biggest complaint
is Matt talks over the guests too much. So babble away.
If that is something you do, I would appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I'm not I'm not much of a babbelon. But okay.
So I got started on TikTok really and I started
making family content. It was just it was all safe
for work, and I had lots of inquiries. You know.
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My my page started popping off and a lot of
a lot of people are like, so do you have
this page? And I was like, maybe, like would you
like that? If I did? Would you want to be
on there? But that is kind of how it started.
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But but the backstory to it is It's something I've
always wanted to do. So I wasn't like pushed into it.
I wasn't like, Oh, all these people want you to
do this, do this. It was more like an existing seed, sure,
And it was just kind of the right moment, right time,
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right platforms were available, and I was like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Can I ask? And I've read a little bit of
your background, so if it seems like a leading question,
it might be can I was there any I've interviewed,
you know, almost two hundred performers now, and you hear
the plethora of different options that could have gotten them
into it right. A lot there is desperation, and I
don't mean in a totally negative way. It's somebody who's
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grinding out the day and just goes, I can't fucking
do this anymore. I need to do so, I need
to make more money, I need to do whatever. Was
this any way a financial not grab in a negative way?
But were you like, money's out there, we might as
well take it, or were.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
You it was more like venture? Sure, more for the
adventure of it.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Uh. The only like I mean, I've had a lot
of little jobs, but the only like main job I
had was I was a personal trainer. Sure, I soon
realized I don't. I didn't like that A lot of
people that were hard to motivate didn't want to put
in the work, and me being already very like high
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achieving motivated for myself, it was hard to motivate these people.
And so it old on. What was the question where
am I going?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
You know, you hear why people get into this, So
to me, it sounds like it was more of a
passion thing. It was more. It wasn't like you were like,
we don't have anyone to pay rent this month. We
need right and I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Very fortunate it was never because of that we have
we've had. My husband was fully supporting the family. But
I was like, you know, on TikTok, I had several
viral videos. I had I think like two hundred something
thousand followers at this point, I was on a TikTok
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creator thing, but it wasn't bringing in as much money
as people think it does. And I was like, I
don't need money, but I could be making more than this.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
It doesn't hurt, Yeah, it doesn't hurt, Like why not?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
And I was like, Okay, let's just give this a
go and it kind of took off.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So I'm we're going to move into definitely into that,
into the transition. But my question, you said you did training.
Were you always a fitness person? I don't know, if
you can see by my physique, I'm a wonderfully in
shape guy, and by that I mean it behind a
computer twenty hours a day. Were you always like a
fitness person? I always find that fascinating. I don't know
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if you were always a fitness person who felt really
great working out and exercise on when you were little,
or if you were a kid that looked like me
when you were little and you were like, I can't
fucking do this anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I was always athletic. Fitness gotcha just doing stuff I did.
I was a dancer in high school, a bodybuilder in.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
College, and I'm just I kind of have that natural athleticism. Sure,
I've never really struggled with weight, fortunately, like I got
lucky in that way.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
But I do. I still work out, Sure, maybe once
or twice a week. It's less than I used to be,
but I enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Okay, Okay, I have read somebody was an icon for
you to look up to when you were younger and
I was a little bit shocked by the answer to that,
and I went, Jamison, Yeah, I want to I want
to know why. Again, nothing wrong with everyone loves Jenna Jamison, obviously,
but you know, if you're looking for like a knockout
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or a bombshell, why go to Jenna Jamison and not
a little more like main like a Pam Anderson or
a car like Pam Anderson too, like Carmen Electra.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Like they were all up there. They were all on
my binder, the binder that almost got banned at school.
All the guys like looking at it, and I was like,
give me a bag, it's mine. But Jenna Jameson just
stuck with me. She was my background on my Space,
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and I started looking up to her since high school.
Like I don't want to say a year because I
don't know, but yeah, she was because I was I
was very.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
How do I say this, rebellious, I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Even know rebellious in that aspect, Hi, libido, Okay. I
I really enjoyed sex. It was and I've always been
sort of a I'm trying to word this right. Let's see.
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It started when I was very very young, like just
the the curiosity of it.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Okay, all right? Was it the curiosity of the sex
then that brought you to someone like Jenna Jamison or
the curiosity of the stardom? Like, you know, I think
the way.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I a little bit of that, a little bit of both.
I mean, because she was a star and I looked
up to her for that and it you know, you
could become a famous and a star by doing something
that you enjoyed doing.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Sure, oh it was something a little that you enjoy doing.
That from the outside seems fun. Like there's always hardship
in this industry, and like we said earlier, people don't
understand like what the job actually entails. But if you're
just sitting back and you're looking at a porn star,
you're going, this is one of the most beautiful women
in the world. Her job is to show up. She
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gets paid half a million dollars to have sex with
some guy for an hour. What a good look in handsome,
in shape guy. And then she goes home. It never
has to think about it again while she counts the
like from the outside, from the ignorant perspective on the outside,
you can look at that and go like that that
is a dream life right there that I'm thinking of, right.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
And there was never the stigma of it or nothing
really like maybe shy a waf there, you know, lots
of shaming around it. I didn't realize it was so
stigmatized until way later I was like, oh wait, I'm
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not I'm not supposed to enjoy set like that's what.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, yeah, it's see. I can't claim that I went
to enough years of Catholic school where it was like
it was like no, no, no, no, no, no, just keep
that thing in your pants, don't sweat it. And yet
some of those girls turned out to be the most
less like promiscuous later in life. And maybe that's what
can I ask And if it's too personal, don't delve
into it at all. But the relationship you had with
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sex when you were younger, or the relationship or the
stigma that was put on was a stigma put on?
It was it almost like a little bit like you
had to feel this way within a closet and and
you always were kind of bursting to No, let's figure
out what's interesting about this. Where was your family pretty
open about like.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
My family's pretty open cool, Like I was never raised
strictly religious or I mean, there was some shame put
on certain things that I wasn't allowed to talk about
certain things openly. But it's sorry. I keep like, my
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mind keeps going the lank.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
No, it's okay, You're totally good. This is just a conversation.
I again, my questions are way too fucking long, So
I apologize for that. My brain is going tag this
on the end of it, say this one too, So
I'll keep it more simple because.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Sometimes I'll come into these things thinking I don't need
to prepare, but then I'm asked questions and and I'm like,
oh wait, let me think about this for a second.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
No, you you are welcome to take as much time
as you want to think about things. You're totally cool.
You're totally cool. Uh, let me let me transition into this.
Then you're pretty open that you're a real mom in
real life, right, not like these and no offense to them.
And people have kids young. But sometimes you see in
the industry at twenty three, twenty four year old girl
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and they go, you're a milth now, and you go,
oh no, oh wow, that's that seems little early.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
But also at the same time, you talked about some
of the struggles you might have had. In an article
I read about you recently about being a mother and
how sex kind of falls off after that. Can you
tell me about your experience.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I think a lot of it when you become a mother,
and I have, like, I feel like my instincts for
motherhood were like they shot up like way beyond probably
a healthy level. But I mean I wouldn't sleep when
my kids would sleep, I would hover over them, make
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sure they're breathing. So a little a little too too
much on that, but so I would That was my job, sure,
is to keep these little humans alive. So everything else
didn't exist. I didn't exist, you know, that was me.
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That was my identity and I was in that for
a long time. And I don't want to get emotional.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I've I don't know how to I don't know how
to change it to make you nout emotional, but.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
So it, Yeah, it was hard to make time for
like intimate relations. I was. I breastfed each of my
kids for a year each, and that changes things for
that area of the body too. Sure to put sexual stimulus,
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but also you're feeding your baby. Yeah, those don't I
mean some people make them go hand in hand. But
I didn't. I couldn't do that. So I didn't like
that part of me being touched anymore in a sexual way.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Right, And that isolates a whole I mean that prior
to kids, that is a sexual part of your body.
It would be like if a guy said, like, I
don't want my right ball touched anymore, don't touch it.
You know, I know it's going to be in the
way of you doing your whole thing, but just I
don't want my right ball touched, please please, right, So
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I and it's even a little bigger than that. It's
almost like I don't want either of my ball touch Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
So that kind of you know, hindered something too, and
it took me a long time to push past that way,
long after I was done breastfeeding and had to kind
of bring that part of me back that enjoyed that
in a sexual way.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Wow. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Now, so then you're in this moment, can I ask,
and again, if anything ever oversteps the line, you just
say and we'll cut it out in the after effect.
But was your husband supportive during this time? Did you
feel like you could feel him not slipping away to
other people or anything like that, but emotionally or sexually
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or physically.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, what it became like roommates.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Sure, your roommates with a job, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
And I'm sure everyone else with kids would understand, like
all the efforts and all your attention and focus and
mental power physical power is going towards the kids, right,
we would. We would try to make time for each
other though at eight We would schedule dates, get grandparents
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to watch kids. We try to reconnect the best that
we could.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
It takes effort, yeah, would this is a dumb question
because it's not even achievable. Would it be more achievable
if kids were on a regular schedule like everyone else,
like babies? If they were like your baby goes to
sleep at eight pm, he wakes up around six and
then you know, he chills the rest of the day
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and then seven hits he really gets Would that make
it easier or is it it was it spent? Change?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Would because I wasn't sleeping and when I'm tired, Yeah,
I don't do anything. I can't put effort into that
more or less get off like sure too tired?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Sure I get that.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I mean we cared to get off, like I just
need sleep.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Let me me ask this, did your your husband now is?
It seems like a central part of your story, but
also what you do You said, you know early in
life you were a little bit hyper sexualized in the
best way possible, in a good way where you you know,
when you brought this idea to him, hey let's make
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this transition, was he like, I kind of knew this
was common, like she's a wild chick before all this
kid stuff happened.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I don't know if he knew it was coming, because
I had already moved into this uh mom role for
so long right that it almost was like, no, that
she's not like that anymore kind of thing. So I
don't know if he expected it, because when him and
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I met, I was on my hunt for husband, Like,
I was not in it for just fun, was more serious.
I was like, I need a serious relationship. I'm not
just fucking around. Literally, I'm not just not just partying
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and having one night stands or anything. So where our
relationships started, it started on a note that this was
very monogamous. I guess I wasn't too. I mean, we
enjoyed our sex life dating, but it wasn't crazy adventurous. Sure,
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so so I don't. I wouldn't say he expected it.
My mom did though.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Oh that's mom got it though, she understood right off
the bat. Yeah, yeah, okay, So when you present this
to him, the idea and talk me through that your TikTok.
You're doing family content, you're doing safe for work stuff.
I assume it wasn't any chance at all with your
busy life. Do you watch Euphoria at all? Or no?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Okay, all right. The people were catching shit about this
and everything else in the first few episodes of this season.
Sydney Sweeney's characters trying to be a safer work but
edgy racy type thing. Right. I understand that does work sometimes,
but I don't think that can work unless you have
the additional on the stuffing. Maybe you can, I don't know.
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So that wasn't in any way what you were doing.
You were completely safe for work all, you know, bundled
up and there was no Trapstnahan.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
It solely started getting into little thirst traps. And then
my family that followed me.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Was like, the fuck are you doing what? Fish?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I had some of my family blog me because of it,
But it's not content for you.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
So so though you're doing this type of content and
you go to your husband eventually at some point and
you go, let's let's let's go the let's go the
opposite direction, let's take the kids out of these videos.
And also the clothes. I wonder did he embrace it
like right away or was it one of.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
The know it was it was slowly like a little
bit of okay, so we you know, from the start,
we set our boundaries. Okay, so it's just me. I'm
just showing boops, you know, just you know, lude you know,
a little nipple here and there. And slowly it was like,
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you know, you push it, you push it a little
bit because you want to do a little more. And
and I had people trying to push my boundaries too, sure,
and it was a learning process of am I comfortable
with this or am I just doing it because they
want to give me this amount of money? So a
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lot of times they would they would push and I'd
be like, wait a second, I'm not doing this for them.
I'm doing this for me, so I need to enjoy it. Sure,
And but yeah, eventually I was like, you know, I
could really use a little extra appendage in my videos.
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And he was like, okay, as long as my face
doesn't show, and I was like, okay, we can do that, right.
So but but starting it was the best thing we
could have done for our relationship because this really ignited
things for us. We hadn't been this close since before babies,
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so it it changed everything for the better.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Don't obviously tell me what the job is, but are
you and your husband would you consider yourselves creatives or
is that something you kind of had to learn? Like
did you have an idea on editing and style and
what you or is that.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, that was kind of something I've always been into. Okay,
I used to back to like Jenna Jameson and Carmen
Electra actually used to photoshop my face on Carmen Electra's body.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Me too, so I had.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
A little experience with that and it, uh, you know,
I did a webmastering classes before. I actually enjoy editing
a lot. Yeah, I learned a lot from editing. Like
when I'm going back through my scenes and I'm like,
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this was not a good position. We're never doing that
on again, and or I'll be like, okay, so you
see what you did there, don't do that. So I
enjoy it. It's like all a whole.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Like it just yeah, yeah, yeah, So let's talk about
some of your content, right. We initially start with telling
the husband it's a nipple, don't sweat it. I'm just
gonna show a couple of them. What is the first
boundary that we went like, I assume we had that
sounds like set hard boundaries early and not imposed in
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a negative way by him, But just the conversation you had,
this is this is all we're gonna do, which ironically
might feel a little bit like euphoria this season as well,
because I thought it wasn't. At some point she was like,
it's just topless, don't sweat it.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, that's how it starts for a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Sure, sure, for sure, Sure you have to talk someone
into it a little bit.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
You got to have a starting point, and you need
to see what you're comfortable with and push boundaries where
you feel they need to be. If you push ones
you don't like, you reel it back.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
And yeah, okay, so what was the was the first boundary?
Then full nudity where you're like, I think I'm going
to show the last off okay.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, and then I was like, what after that? I
think after that it.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Was him sure, okay, and.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Then yeah, we slowly evolved from there.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Okay, all right, So was there any pushback or did
he kind of get it? Did you wait for the
growth to happen and then you could I think that's
the best way you can present it. Look, I'm showing
my tits and this is the growth we're seeing. These
are the positive comments I'm getting? Or was it? It's
just an easy going okay?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
It helps seeing Oh wow, this much money is coming in. Okay,
what else can we do?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Right?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Okay, all right, give him a little more motivation to
be my little co performer and make time for it
and make treat it as a job.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Was that always in your head where you like, no,
he's not listening to this, don't worry. Were you always
deviously planning like eventually I'll get him on camera, like
we know where this is going. Yeah, okay, all right,
all right, all right, that's actually fucking sweet. By the way,
you're not for all the all the people who are
going to judge performers and everything else and be like,
oh wow, Caras, she's just some no offense. I'm not
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saying this. This is the nameless person. She's just some
slot your hod.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Which I hear a lot all the time.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Sure, Sure, your whole intention was I'd like to get
closer to my husband after creating this beautiful family. I
don't know how anyone can like hear that and then
it's just pure anger. If anyone's sitting there going wow,
fuck her. Still, it's like, yeah, yady here man, let
everyone live their life.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Gives a shit.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
So did you have carry over? I assume you did
because you had a platform before, But did you have
any carryover you recognized from TikTok? Was there like Jeff
Smith one two four, who was always Yeah, there was.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
A lot of really, and that's kind of why I
think I became as successful as I did, because I
already had a platform, right and even though it was
safe for work, you know those married men still uh yeah,
So there was a there was a lot.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, yeah, what was the transition like from that to that?
And I'm talking more on the on the production or
the admin side. Like with TikTok, I assume you go,
I'm always going to put something up safe, so we're
not going to try and get in trouble, and we'll
do this and that. But did you then go back?
Were you always such a big fan of porn you
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were like, no, I already have the camera angles planned
in your mind. Or did you have to go and
like reference other things? Did you have to go reference
other people's porn? Other OnlyFans creators And I definitely.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Get inspiration from other things. If you look at what
we do now versus what we started doing, there's been
growth with our performance, with our camera angles, with our
our quality of camera and yeah, there's always stuff to
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build on, you know, like it's it was good, it's
better now and it can it can get better too. Sure.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, So yeah, what was the first moment where you went, oh, fuck,
this could be a business. Like, was it the first
month you saw an explosion and you were like wow?
Or was it a gradual Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
It probably was because when I had an influx of
people come in from TikTok, I was like, Okay, this
is what we're doing now, this is my life, this
is this is my job.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Sure, sure, you're always going to get an initial burst.
So if I'm wrong on this, that's totally fine, you
can correct me. But everyone always gets the initial burst,
especially that you had a platform already. Did you ever
have like a dross a slow little dropdown and how
did that? Did that discourage you at all or did
you just go no, fuck it, we gotta be Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I was discouraging because I was like, I'm losing them,
I'm losing them. But it's you got to keep at
it because you're bringing in new people all the time,
so you got to focus on not only the content
that is the explicit stuff, but the content that will
bring people in. Right, So there's a balance, yeah, yeah,
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And that's why it's like, there's no set amount of income,
it's just how much do you want to.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
And that's why it's so beneficial to you. Thank goodness,
right that you your husband's good with his job and
you can take care of Like we said earlier, no
one never goes oh more money yuck. But at the
same time, if your rent's counting on it, that's a
much more dire.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
So, which would be way more motivating.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Right, motivating, but also also potentially push you to maybe
cross boundaries, right, and that's not the relationship you've built
with both the platform and with your family, right right, Yeah, Yeah,
when you're creating content. One of my favorite stories. I've
counted this a few times, but I interviewed Lily Bell
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and Lily Bell as a speak little girl. Yeah, she's great.
She told me about this. I asked her what kind
of stuff do you want to produce? And she goes,
I want to do this lesbian scene and I want
it to be very artistic and blah blah blah. I
think it would be perfect. It's in my mind. I
love it. I go, how well would that sell? And
she goes, not very well at all? Okay, Unfortunately, because
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there's a market for certain things, there's a market for
certain other things. How do you balance something you're passionate
about versus something you know you're going to want to sell? Like,
is there do you have to try and find a
middle grand between these things?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I think so, because you've got to do what you
like doing. You got to make the content you enjoy.
There's I mean, there's a push for for certain things
that important stars get asked like that don't do certain
things to do it and like but stuff. Sure, and
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there's there's a big push for that for everyone to
do that. And if you don't enjoy it, for one,
it's probably going to show on camera. That you don't
enjoy it, sure, but that I mean, why would you
want to make content? I don't know how to No,
(30:46):
that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Its again, I think it goes back to when people
cross over from this is a passion thing into this
is a business. Right. I totally, I totally underst stand
when people say these are my hard lines. I've interviewed
Sarah Jay. Sarah Jay is a storied career, has never
done an anal scene, will never do an anal scene,
(31:07):
has no interest in doing an anal scene. Totally get that.
But I think maybe when people are now we talk
about commenters, I don't give a shit about who's pushing
you to do whatever, But if in your own life
you're feeling like I am a little bit pushed to
do this, I think you just have to sit back
and assess yourself and go, am I really or am
I trying to make other people happy with it?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah? Right? Yeah? And that's something too that because I
would back when I was doing custom videos, people would
request certain things like anal like ture, and I was like, well,
I guess it's not like my favorite thing, but you're
offering this, and maybe I could do a custom for
it just as once. Sure, and then they come back
(31:53):
you're like, can I get another one like that? Like,
I guess, But the whole time it's like, you know,
doesn't get me off? Sure against you? That's it. So
I had to reel that back. Sure, So I was like,
you know what, I don't. I don't offer it anymore.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Sorry, Sure, Okay, all right? You do a lot of
fun roleplay stuff, and you're at this great point where
you're beautiful enough to be Stepsis and and you look
great and whatever. And then also you can apply the
milk roll if you want. What is the trick in
doing role play to you? Have? You? Do you have
any kind of like.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Have a little bit of a sorry, I'm not good
with words. I guess I have a routine. Okay, yes,
you would say, so as I'm doing my makeup and
here I'll be kind of going through, okay, what's our
scene today? Usually that you don't even know what we're
doing until I'm doing my makeup, because I need to
(32:57):
know how I'm going to do my makeup.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Sure, Like, okay, am I doing more of like the
big lashes and you know, freckles or pigtails?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
It depends on what we're doing, right, So I'll get
into character while I'm doing my makeup and here like, okay,
we're doing steps Is today, So I'll be like, start
getting my steps is nude and like its kind of
playing with what lines I'm going to say and just
(33:32):
get in that mental space. But if I'm doing the
step mom, I'm going to be a little bit more.
You know, I'm not going to have pigtails, and so
I'll be like probably more more like this, and I'll
start getting into lines and rehearsing them and getting in
that mindset for that.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Okay, Okay. I've been with my wife for eighteen years now.
I think we met when we were like nineteen years old,
and only recently did I try and get her into
dirty talking, okay. And the problem is we are both
so sarcastic and sardonic, and you know, like I'd be like, ooh,
(34:12):
you like when I grab your tits and she'd be like, yeah,
it feels real nice facts and it's like, oh you
just like my dick's gone. Now.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I'm kind of like that a little bit too. That's
that's us actually a difficult thing dirty talking, and for me,
it's a whole other thing besides just performing your hat.
I mean, it goes with it, but it's another layer
to it, and knowing what to say in the right tone.
(34:44):
There's things I've said and they come out like like
I didn't That's not what I wanted to say, and
it makes it awkward. And but also comedy is like
in the back of my brain to so I'll be like, oh,
you want to get me pregnant again and we have
(35:05):
to deal with the sleepless baby on the like that's
what comes in my mind when that stuff pops.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Up and you can't put that out right. Have you
ever done like a funny one like that? I wonder
to know, see I wonder if that's like the Lily
Bell thing. Like all I want to do is see
a scene of you shooting something funny and then at
the end I would be like, you know, okay, I
don't need to watch that again, but it was.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I have I have bloopers that I'll send out that's funny, okay,
of just the process of or like you know, the
clip of like him in position air humping just to
make sure the camera like it's catching everything and just
you know, just flaccid, just just going for it, just
(35:56):
making sure. We gotta make sure sure and or like
just like certain positions will make me like sucking a
lot of air, just you know, letting those rip. That's
all in like bloopers and stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Let me ask though, as as a real mom when
you're doing a step mom scene or anything like that
is the key to just separate how it? Yeah, it's
a weird thing, right, Yeah, how do you intercept? And
was that ever a boundary where you were like first
I was.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Like, there's no way I'm doing that. It's too close
to home, right, And but there was. And that goes
back to the doing things you like versus doing things
that sell. Right. Even though Steps just does good, but
my milk step Mom does really good. So I enjoy
(36:59):
the Steps this content probably like just being kind of
playful with it. The stepmom stuff, I enjoy it, but
not as much. But there's a there's more people like it.
People just love it. So I'm like, okay, And but yeah,
(37:21):
there is a separation. I have to because sometimes it
can feel a little yes.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
So how do you push yourself away from that? If
it feels I do it?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
You're just trying to, like, how.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
The do I do that, Jesus, If.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I do that, I think I think of a guy husband, sure,
in terms of a younger guy, but not like a.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Different steps sound sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
You know, like a younger guy like twenty three gotcha?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Gotcha?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Okay, and it kind of has that like, oh, I'm
more more sure, more experience than you kind of feel. Still,
but it's not my step son, gotcha, and he's not
that young.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Okay. Thank you for clarifying. You wanted to make sure. Okay,
Now you did your first girl girl seeing right with
a person I had on this show, I believe if
it's wrong, Mazie Mazie Monroe, Yeah, I love her. I
think she's an artist, a kid.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
How did that come about? And and was that a boundary?
Because again to the audience that says I talk about
my life too much, I've always told my wife you
can cheat not you can. You can cheat on me
with a guy, you can't cheat on me with a girl.
And by that I mean I don't want you.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I'm in that, that's where your boundaries are. For that.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
I'm an apple. I don't want you hooking up with
other apples. If you need an orange, just let me
know and like, you know, maybe like a watch who
fucking knows, Yeah, just tell me details about it later.
So I assume again we start the boundaries on. I'm
just showing my tits, I swear, and now you're like, hey,
I think I want to go down on this chick?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Right?
Speaker 1 (39:15):
How do we grow into that? Was it simply just
the success of the only thing.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
I wanted to give the fans a little bit something more.
I was like, We've been doing this, I'm not collaborating
with other men, but I still want to give them
something different. We've done different role plays, I've done a
little cosplay. I was like, what else can we add?
So but a fan was like, oh, would you ever
(39:44):
collaborate with another person that I really like? And I
was like, oh, okay. So I talked to my husband
about it.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Sure, and we're like.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Well, you know, you can be there or not and
we'll just do something light and it went well, Like
he was he recorded it.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Now, did you present to him that it was Mazie
Monroe and go through it or were you like, like
to do something with another performer here's Lexington Steele. Was
it was the you weren't going to surprise him with anything.
I assume you go into this and you go one hundred.
Actually the person because.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
We met her before we ever did anything, gotcha?
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
So so when I was like, oh, I think i'd
want to collab with Mazie, he was like, oh that's
that girl we met it.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, all right, So then tell me
about that collaboration and what did that teach you? Did you, Mazie,
I assume was already like well established at this point
and had a career. Did you kind of give up
controls on this and go what would you do? Was
it a fully fifty to fifty?
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I think I kind of put it in her control
a little bit because she's been with girls before. I
mean I have back in the day, but like as
little drunk hookups.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Sure not not this and not.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Her performance, not a but I mean there's some crossover
from being with my husband performing. We know camera angles,
we know how to put on a performance. So but
she kind of took the lead on because I'd never
scissored before, neither waiting. It's like how do I do this?
(41:29):
And I was like, oh, we need lube? Oh, like
because I didn't know, sure, and it was a learning experience.
But that's what made it fun too, all this new stuff.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
So you had, like, you know, hookups in the past
or whatever, but this is like the first time. This
is like a real like I'm doing something a little
bisexual here I'm doing Was that a turn on for you?
Was it a fear for you? I assume you weren't.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
About doing it? Right? Does it feel good?
Speaker 5 (42:03):
Because I, you know, I've done that with man and
I'm kind of I've gotten good at that, but like
how many fingers you want to lick the same time.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Like you've had the parts, but it's almost like you're
learning how to work with a new version of it, right, yeah, okay,
all right.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
And that's what made it fun to you though, because
I love learning the stuff. I like a challenge. And yeah,
sure it was good.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
I'm sure you'll say Mazie was the best teacher in
the world. But let me just ask this. Did it
feel like a huge step for you or once it started?
Were you comfortable?
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Were you like, h once I started it was, I
was comfortable, gotcha? Gotch I was like, okay, this is
this is easier than I thought. Okay, And and it
turned out good.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Okay, all right, So what did you learn from that
first girl girl scene about yourself, either sexually or did
you learn anything?
Speaker 2 (43:07):
The way I learned is that I like to cut
the camera a lot more. I like doing things in
little snippets, little little phases. Maze was like, oh, no,
let's fine, just keep rolling. Just let's just keep rolling.
So it's like, okay, so you know, I might not
(43:30):
say what I think is the best thing to say,
but it's going to go out there to be honest.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
It feels feels a little bit more authentic, then feels
a little more genuine. It's like, no, this is a recap.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
It was a one cake thing like that. It was
like we're rolling and everything that we did we did
for the first time. But at home it's like, we'll
do I mean just at the beginning a year intro
we you know, we will do several takes. Still, it's
(44:03):
it's what I want.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Let me ask this, how tied in is your husband
in terms of where you are now? Because he still
has the other job. Obviously that you've said and this
and that, but is it more? This is Kara's project,
and I will help when she needs me to I'll.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Be starting becoming more more with him, okay, because he
sees how far I've come with it, and I mean,
how far we've come with it. It's he's part of it.
And I was like, we really need to dive into
this and put our apples into baskets that are rewarding us.
(44:46):
And I was like, I was also like, what, you know,
you could quit your job and then we could like
put more into this, but we're like, Noah, because we
got that health insurance and all the other pluses that
come with that.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
I interviewed a newer girl that was coming up through
the OnlyFans' ranks and she's she's now my best friend
in the industry kat Karma orgasmic, and she got to
the point with her husband where they realized we are
leaving money, a lot of money on the table by
not dedicating our full time to this. It's almost like,
(45:26):
you know, if your wife has a job and she
makes a thousand dollars a month and child cares fifteen hundred,
you might as well fucking stay home. We're losing out
on this right So you know, knock on wood. I
hope for you it gets to the point where your
husband goes. Dude, I'm losing so much money going into
work every day. We need to fucking you know this, Yeah, exactly.
(45:49):
So how are you going to approach collaborations differently? And
how have you approached collaborations differently? This seems like it
was you kind of put the feelers out there, you
found a great person to work with that or someone's
comfortable and everything else. How have you done it since then?
How are you going to do it forward? Are you
going to take more of the show?
Speaker 2 (46:07):
And so I've been with four women total, and they've
all been very similar. We do a little tiny bit
of role play. I would like to do more role play.
My husband and I on our scenes, we do a
little bit more extensive role play, sure, and to really
(46:27):
build that dynamic and do a little character development in
the fastest amount of time you can. But I'd like
to do that more with with my female collaborations.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
When you won your award, first off, what was the
award for?
Speaker 2 (46:47):
It was for the XMA Creator Wards Female Clip Creator
of the Year and that was twenty twenty five last year.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Did that just blow your fucking mind?
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:58):
When I never thought this is no offense. I think
you went did you go up against Hailey Rose.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Hailey Rose? I think Jules Blue, Ellie Clutch, some other
like big names were in there.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
There's no way, dude, no offense at all to you.
Those people are covering my fucking timeline every single day.
So to be able to pull out that win really
speaks a lot to the fan commitments. They said the
wrong name up there, my bad. Uh that's crazy, isn't it?
(47:35):
Like the first year we were we I had a
co host at the time, we're nominated for an AVN.
We put nothing out. We just you know, we put nothing.
I maybe did one tweet that went out to like
four hundred people. And it's just the most validating feeling
having other people go, at least for me a nomination, Hey,
you deserve this. What did it feel like for a
(47:57):
win where it was like, not only do you deserve
to be in the group, you are her?
Speaker 2 (48:02):
I felt like, not only do I have like my
fans love me, they tell me all the time they
love me, but to have everyone in the industry kind
of know me now, Yeah, that was I felt included.
I felt seen, I can finally one of you.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
Yeah, that's so. Yeah, that's amazing here. Yeah, I have
heard you want to look into You're not opposed to.
I've interviewed people that go, I don't ever want to
do studio work, have no interest in doing it, and
I want to. You have commented and said you would
like to.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
I would love to try it, Okay, all right, Yeah,
I think it would be. It would be a whole
different thing. You got camera crews, you got the whole.
If they do your hair and makeup, you know, I've
never had that, They give you lines. I don't even
know if I'll remember my lines. But I'd like to
try it and see it and give it a good
(49:00):
and give it my best.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Now does the issue come in finding the right thing?
And let me ask this, where is the comfort level
in the home? I assume this would be a lesbian scene, right,
it would have to be, gotcha? Okay, So that that
is a firm boundary we are going to stick to that.
We're not going full swinger lifestyle here. We're content creators
in this aspect, right Okay, Yeah, all right, that's fair.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
And I've been it's been something.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Oh I apologize. I'm going to show you that afterwards.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Okay, whatever if you want. I've had some some pretty
well known male creators reach out and I've had to
turn them down now, So it's been a little internal
struggle for me with Dob.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Gotcha. And but are you able to let's be honest again,
who's not listening to this? Are you putting little hints
in the ears at all? Like you know?
Speaker 2 (49:59):
I mean, yeah, but it's such a hard bound gotcha?
Speaker 1 (50:04):
And at some point, you know, maybe you don't feel
this way, maybe you do. I feel like it sounds
like he has been supportive in everything, he has been helpful,
He has been right there with you, Like, I'm so grateful.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
That he's done what he's done.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Sure, you know, and maybe maybe someday that boundary gets touched,
but you know what if it doesn't, he has you know,
he's he deserves credit, right can we say that?
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (50:27):
For sure?
Speaker 2 (50:28):
And I'm and there's people that they have been very
successful in this industry that haven't collabed with anybody other
than their partner. Which if we're going down that route, like,
let's make sure we uh get to where we need
to be. I don't let's I don't know. I don't
(50:51):
know I'm bad with words, But what I'm saying is
if I if like, if I don't collab with with them,
then we go to make it.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
Just as good ourselves, right you go, Well, collabing with
this person in this high level type thing would present
this type of content at the end of it. I
understand you don't necessarily want me working with this person
or this type whatever. Let's elevate our stuff so I
can say I have something very so so we.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Can still grow.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
But still, yeah, I think that's great. And to me
that is exactly what you said early on on that
I don't think you use the term type A but
the go getter, the yes, get this done. You don't
ever seem complacent. It's never just I'm good.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Yeah. I mean there's things I try and I'm like,
I didn't like it, gotch But yeah, this isn't one
of those. This is like we're mastering it.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
Sure, Sure, ladies and gentlemen. My guests for today, Cara
Beer K E R A B E A R links
to everything or in the episode description. Website is very
similar to that, so make sure you check that out. Carrot,
what is the ultimate goal of this and my last
question here. What is what is the end goal? Would
(52:12):
you love to get to the point where you could
quote unquote retire your husband, where you could be like
and that.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Would be I don't even think I've thought that far. Sure,
I would just love some recognition for for all that
we've done. I guess I think that. And money's great too,
but ultimately making content I enjoy. Yeah, and if other
(52:41):
people want to watch it and pay for it and great.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
All right, ladies and gentlemen, My best, my best, my best,
your best best bear, my best bear. Well, no, I'm
going to show you a picture afterwards, but my best bear,
Cara Bear. You know exactly where you can find her
links to everything in the episode description. I want to
say thank you so much for coming on with me today.
You may not be the best with words, as you say,
(53:08):
but you get your point across very well and I
wish nothing but success for you going for Thanks you
very much
Kara Bear my guest for the evening. You know exactly
where you can find her at Kara Bear k e
R A B E A R. The website is very
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And always, always, always the most important thing, support the
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(00:37):
more performers come on the show. It's just that simple.
Kara Bear, thank you for coming on with me today.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Of course, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
A thank you for letting me restart a few times there.
I'm always honest with my audience. I don't want to
put guard.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Probably more than that.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
We'll delve into that. Let me ask with all that
you do, and I always start out with this question
everything you do. If you had to sum it up
into one word, not one word, one thing, what is
your job title?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I would say, I mean creator pretty is all encompassing.
But I'm not just a TikToker, so I'm you know,
I always say I'm an independent adult performer.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
There you go, and doesn't that feel like it doesn't
cover enough of the.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Way you do because there's so many things.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Right, You're a social media manager, You're an editor, at
some point, you're a writer.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I'm a producer.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Oh also hot woman who appears in front of the camera.
Like we haven't said talent yet there, which is right. Yeah,
So going into this did you have? I got to
slow myself down, give me one second. Let me ask
how did you initially decide to move into the adult
entertainment industry from where you were? Tell me you're story,
(02:00):
and don't be afraid to talk because my biggest complaint
is Matt talks over the guests too much. So babble away.
If that is something you do, I would appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I'm not I'm not much of a babbelon. But okay.
So I got started on TikTok really and I started
making family content. It was just it was all safe
for work, and I had lots of inquiries. You know.
(02:29):
My my page started popping off and a lot of
a lot of people are like, so do you have
this page? And I was like, maybe, like would you
like that? If I did? Would you want to be
on there? But that is kind of how it started.
(02:50):
But but the backstory to it is It's something I've
always wanted to do. So I wasn't like pushed into it.
I wasn't like, Oh, all these people want you to
do this, do this. It was more like an existing seed, sure,
And it was just kind of the right moment, right time,
(03:14):
right platforms were available, and I was like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Can I ask? And I've read a little bit of
your background, so if it seems like a leading question,
it might be can I was there any I've interviewed,
you know, almost two hundred performers now, and you hear
the plethora of different options that could have gotten them
into it right. A lot there is desperation, and I
don't mean in a totally negative way. It's somebody who's
(03:42):
grinding out the day and just goes, I can't fucking
do this anymore. I need to do so, I need
to make more money, I need to do whatever. Was
this any way a financial not grab in a negative way?
But were you like, money's out there, we might as
well take it, or were.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
You it was more like venture? Sure, more for the
adventure of it.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Uh. The only like I mean, I've had a lot
of little jobs, but the only like main job I
had was I was a personal trainer. Sure, I soon
realized I don't. I didn't like that A lot of
people that were hard to motivate didn't want to put
in the work, and me being already very like high
(04:27):
achieving motivated for myself, it was hard to motivate these people.
And so it old on. What was the question where
am I going?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
You know, you hear why people get into this, So
to me, it sounds like it was more of a
passion thing. It was more. It wasn't like you were like,
we don't have anyone to pay rent this month. We
need right and I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Very fortunate it was never because of that we have
we've had. My husband was fully supporting the family. But
I was like, you know, on TikTok, I had several
viral videos. I had I think like two hundred something
thousand followers at this point, I was on a TikTok
(05:21):
creator thing, but it wasn't bringing in as much money
as people think it does. And I was like, I
don't need money, but I could be making more than this.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
It doesn't hurt, Yeah, it doesn't hurt, Like why not?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
And I was like, Okay, let's just give this a
go and it kind of took off.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So I'm we're going to move into definitely into that,
into the transition. But my question, you said you did training.
Were you always a fitness person? I don't know, if
you can see by my physique, I'm a wonderfully in
shape guy, and by that I mean it behind a
computer twenty hours a day. Were you always like a
fitness person? I always find that fascinating. I don't know
(06:07):
if you were always a fitness person who felt really
great working out and exercise on when you were little,
or if you were a kid that looked like me
when you were little and you were like, I can't
fucking do this anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I was always athletic. Fitness gotcha just doing stuff I did.
I was a dancer in high school, a bodybuilder in.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
College, and I'm just I kind of have that natural athleticism. Sure,
I've never really struggled with weight, fortunately, like I got
lucky in that way.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
But I do. I still work out, Sure, maybe once
or twice a week. It's less than I used to be,
but I enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Okay, Okay, I have read somebody was an icon for
you to look up to when you were younger and
I was a little bit shocked by the answer to that,
and I went, Jamison, Yeah, I want to I want
to know why. Again, nothing wrong with everyone loves Jenna Jamison, obviously,
but you know, if you're looking for like a knockout
(07:12):
or a bombshell, why go to Jenna Jamison and not
a little more like main like a Pam Anderson or
a car like Pam Anderson too, like Carmen Electra.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Like they were all up there. They were all on
my binder, the binder that almost got banned at school.
All the guys like looking at it, and I was like,
give me a bag, it's mine. But Jenna Jameson just
stuck with me. She was my background on my Space,
(07:43):
and I started looking up to her since high school.
Like I don't want to say a year because I
don't know, but yeah, she was because I was I
was very.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
How do I say this, rebellious, I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Even know rebellious in that aspect, Hi, libido, Okay. I
I really enjoyed sex. It was and I've always been
sort of a I'm trying to word this right. Let's see.
(08:32):
It started when I was very very young, like just
the the curiosity of it.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Okay, all right? Was it the curiosity of the sex
then that brought you to someone like Jenna Jamison or
the curiosity of the stardom? Like, you know, I think
the way.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I a little bit of that, a little bit of both.
I mean, because she was a star and I looked
up to her for that and it you know, you
could become a famous and a star by doing something
that you enjoyed doing.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Sure, oh it was something a little that you enjoy doing.
That from the outside seems fun. Like there's always hardship
in this industry, and like we said earlier, people don't
understand like what the job actually entails. But if you're
just sitting back and you're looking at a porn star,
you're going, this is one of the most beautiful women
in the world. Her job is to show up. She
(09:32):
gets paid half a million dollars to have sex with
some guy for an hour. What a good look in handsome,
in shape guy. And then she goes home. It never
has to think about it again while she counts the
like from the outside, from the ignorant perspective on the outside,
you can look at that and go like that that
is a dream life right there that I'm thinking of, right.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
And there was never the stigma of it or nothing
really like maybe shy a waf there, you know, lots
of shaming around it. I didn't realize it was so
stigmatized until way later I was like, oh wait, I'm
(10:14):
not I'm not supposed to enjoy set like that's what.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, yeah, it's see. I can't claim that I went
to enough years of Catholic school where it was like
it was like no, no, no, no, no, no, just keep
that thing in your pants, don't sweat it. And yet
some of those girls turned out to be the most
less like promiscuous later in life. And maybe that's what
can I ask And if it's too personal, don't delve
into it at all. But the relationship you had with
(10:44):
sex when you were younger, or the relationship or the
stigma that was put on was a stigma put on?
It was it almost like a little bit like you
had to feel this way within a closet and and
you always were kind of bursting to No, let's figure
out what's interesting about this. Where was your family pretty
open about like.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
My family's pretty open cool, Like I was never raised
strictly religious or I mean, there was some shame put
on certain things that I wasn't allowed to talk about
certain things openly. But it's sorry. I keep like, my
(11:24):
mind keeps going the lank.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
No, it's okay, You're totally good. This is just a conversation.
I again, my questions are way too fucking long, So
I apologize for that. My brain is going tag this
on the end of it, say this one too, So
I'll keep it more simple because.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Sometimes I'll come into these things thinking I don't need
to prepare, but then I'm asked questions and and I'm like,
oh wait, let me think about this for a second.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
No, you you are welcome to take as much time
as you want to think about things. You're totally cool.
You're totally cool. Uh, let me let me transition into this.
Then you're pretty open that you're a real mom in
real life, right, not like these and no offense to them.
And people have kids young. But sometimes you see in
the industry at twenty three, twenty four year old girl
(12:13):
and they go, you're a milth now, and you go,
oh no, oh wow, that's that seems little early.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
But also at the same time, you talked about some
of the struggles you might have had. In an article
I read about you recently about being a mother and
how sex kind of falls off after that. Can you
tell me about your experience.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I think a lot of it when you become a mother,
and I have, like, I feel like my instincts for
motherhood were like they shot up like way beyond probably
a healthy level. But I mean I wouldn't sleep when
my kids would sleep, I would hover over them, make
(12:58):
sure they're breathing. So a little a little too too
much on that, but so I would That was my job, sure,
is to keep these little humans alive. So everything else
didn't exist. I didn't exist, you know, that was me.
(13:21):
That was my identity and I was in that for
a long time. And I don't want to get emotional.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I've I don't know how to I don't know how
to change it to make you nout emotional, but.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
So it, Yeah, it was hard to make time for
like intimate relations. I was. I breastfed each of my
kids for a year each, and that changes things for
that area of the body too. Sure to put sexual stimulus,
(14:07):
but also you're feeding your baby. Yeah, those don't I
mean some people make them go hand in hand. But
I didn't. I couldn't do that. So I didn't like
that part of me being touched anymore in a sexual way.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Right, And that isolates a whole I mean that prior
to kids, that is a sexual part of your body.
It would be like if a guy said, like, I
don't want my right ball touched anymore, don't touch it.
You know, I know it's going to be in the
way of you doing your whole thing, but just I
don't want my right ball touched, please please, right, So
(14:49):
I and it's even a little bigger than that. It's
almost like I don't want either of my ball touch Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
So that kind of you know, hindered something too, and
it took me a long time to push past that way,
long after I was done breastfeeding and had to kind
of bring that part of me back that enjoyed that
in a sexual way.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Wow. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Now, so then you're in this moment, can I ask,
and again, if anything ever oversteps the line, you just
say and we'll cut it out in the after effect.
But was your husband supportive during this time? Did you
feel like you could feel him not slipping away to
other people or anything like that, but emotionally or sexually
(15:36):
or physically.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, what it became like roommates.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Sure, your roommates with a job, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
And I'm sure everyone else with kids would understand, like
all the efforts and all your attention and focus and
mental power physical power is going towards the kids, right,
we would. We would try to make time for each
other though at eight We would schedule dates, get grandparents
(16:04):
to watch kids. We try to reconnect the best that
we could.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
It takes effort, yeah, would this is a dumb question
because it's not even achievable. Would it be more achievable
if kids were on a regular schedule like everyone else,
like babies? If they were like your baby goes to
sleep at eight pm, he wakes up around six and
then you know, he chills the rest of the day
(16:30):
and then seven hits he really gets Would that make
it easier or is it it was it spent? Change?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Would because I wasn't sleeping and when I'm tired, Yeah,
I don't do anything. I can't put effort into that
more or less get off like sure too tired?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Sure I get that.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I mean we cared to get off, like I just
need sleep.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Let me me ask this, did your your husband now is?
It seems like a central part of your story, but
also what you do You said, you know early in
life you were a little bit hyper sexualized in the
best way possible, in a good way where you you know,
when you brought this idea to him, hey let's make
(17:20):
this transition, was he like, I kind of knew this
was common, like she's a wild chick before all this
kid stuff happened.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I don't know if he knew it was coming, because
I had already moved into this uh mom role for
so long right that it almost was like, no, that
she's not like that anymore kind of thing. So I
don't know if he expected it, because when him and
(17:47):
I met, I was on my hunt for husband, Like,
I was not in it for just fun, was more serious.
I was like, I need a serious relationship. I'm not
just fucking around. Literally, I'm not just not just partying
(18:11):
and having one night stands or anything. So where our
relationships started, it started on a note that this was
very monogamous. I guess I wasn't too. I mean, we
enjoyed our sex life dating, but it wasn't crazy adventurous. Sure,
(18:36):
so so I don't. I wouldn't say he expected it.
My mom did though.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Oh that's mom got it though, she understood right off
the bat. Yeah, yeah, okay, So when you present this
to him, the idea and talk me through that your TikTok.
You're doing family content, you're doing safe for work stuff.
I assume it wasn't any chance at all with your
busy life. Do you watch Euphoria at all? Or no?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Okay, all right. The people were catching shit about this
and everything else in the first few episodes of this season.
Sydney Sweeney's characters trying to be a safer work but
edgy racy type thing. Right. I understand that does work sometimes,
but I don't think that can work unless you have
the additional on the stuffing. Maybe you can, I don't know.
(19:27):
So that wasn't in any way what you were doing.
You were completely safe for work all, you know, bundled
up and there was no Trapstnahan.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
It solely started getting into little thirst traps. And then
my family that followed me.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Was like, the fuck are you doing what? Fish?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I had some of my family blog me because of it,
But it's not content for you.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
So so though you're doing this type of content and
you go to your husband eventually at some point and
you go, let's let's let's go the let's go the
opposite direction, let's take the kids out of these videos.
And also the clothes. I wonder did he embrace it
like right away or was it one of.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
The know it was it was slowly like a little
bit of okay, so we you know, from the start,
we set our boundaries. Okay, so it's just me. I'm
just showing boops, you know, just you know, lude you know,
a little nipple here and there. And slowly it was like,
(20:40):
you know, you push it, you push it a little
bit because you want to do a little more. And
and I had people trying to push my boundaries too, sure,
and it was a learning process of am I comfortable
with this or am I just doing it because they
want to give me this amount of money? So a
(21:00):
lot of times they would they would push and I'd
be like, wait a second, I'm not doing this for them.
I'm doing this for me, so I need to enjoy it. Sure,
And but yeah, eventually I was like, you know, I
could really use a little extra appendage in my videos.
(21:26):
And he was like, okay, as long as my face
doesn't show, and I was like, okay, we can do that, right.
So but but starting it was the best thing we
could have done for our relationship because this really ignited
things for us. We hadn't been this close since before babies,
(21:51):
so it it changed everything for the better.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Don't obviously tell me what the job is, but are
you and your husband would you consider yourselves creatives or
is that something you kind of had to learn? Like
did you have an idea on editing and style and
what you or is that.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, that was kind of something I've always been into. Okay,
I used to back to like Jenna Jameson and Carmen
Electra actually used to photoshop my face on Carmen Electra's body.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Me too, so I had.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
A little experience with that and it, uh, you know,
I did a webmastering classes before. I actually enjoy editing
a lot. Yeah, I learned a lot from editing. Like
when I'm going back through my scenes and I'm like,
(22:53):
this was not a good position. We're never doing that
on again, and or I'll be like, okay, so you
see what you did there, don't do that. So I
enjoy it. It's like all a whole.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Like it just yeah, yeah, yeah, So let's talk about
some of your content, right. We initially start with telling
the husband it's a nipple, don't sweat it. I'm just
gonna show a couple of them. What is the first
boundary that we went like, I assume we had that
sounds like set hard boundaries early and not imposed in
(23:31):
a negative way by him, But just the conversation you had,
this is this is all we're gonna do, which ironically
might feel a little bit like euphoria this season as well,
because I thought it wasn't. At some point she was like,
it's just topless, don't sweat it.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, that's how it starts for a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Sure, sure, for sure, Sure you have to talk someone
into it a little bit.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
You got to have a starting point, and you need
to see what you're comfortable with and push boundaries where
you feel they need to be. If you push ones
you don't like, you reel it back.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
And yeah, okay, so what was the was the first boundary?
Then full nudity where you're like, I think I'm going
to show the last off okay.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, and then I was like, what after that? I
think after that it.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Was him sure, okay, and.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Then yeah, we slowly evolved from there.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Okay, all right, So was there any pushback or did
he kind of get it? Did you wait for the
growth to happen and then you could I think that's
the best way you can present it. Look, I'm showing
my tits and this is the growth we're seeing. These
are the positive comments I'm getting? Or was it? It's
just an easy going okay?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
It helps seeing Oh wow, this much money is coming in. Okay,
what else can we do?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Right?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Okay, all right, give him a little more motivation to
be my little co performer and make time for it
and make treat it as a job.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Was that always in your head where you like, no,
he's not listening to this, don't worry. Were you always
deviously planning like eventually I'll get him on camera, like
we know where this is going. Yeah, okay, all right,
all right, all right, that's actually fucking sweet. By the way,
you're not for all the all the people who are
going to judge performers and everything else and be like,
oh wow, Caras, she's just some no offense. I'm not
(25:27):
saying this. This is the nameless person. She's just some
slot your hod.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Which I hear a lot all the time.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Sure, Sure, your whole intention was I'd like to get
closer to my husband after creating this beautiful family. I
don't know how anyone can like hear that and then
it's just pure anger. If anyone's sitting there going wow,
fuck her. Still, it's like, yeah, yady here man, let
everyone live their life.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Gives a shit.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
So did you have carry over? I assume you did
because you had a platform before, But did you have
any carryover you recognized from TikTok? Was there like Jeff
Smith one two four, who was always Yeah, there was.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
A lot of really, and that's kind of why I
think I became as successful as I did, because I
already had a platform, right and even though it was
safe for work, you know those married men still uh yeah,
So there was a there was a lot.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, yeah, what was the transition like from that to that?
And I'm talking more on the on the production or
the admin side. Like with TikTok, I assume you go,
I'm always going to put something up safe, so we're
not going to try and get in trouble, and we'll
do this and that. But did you then go back?
Were you always such a big fan of porn you
(26:48):
were like, no, I already have the camera angles planned
in your mind. Or did you have to go and
like reference other things? Did you have to go reference
other people's porn? Other OnlyFans creators And I definitely.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Get inspiration from other things. If you look at what
we do now versus what we started doing, there's been
growth with our performance, with our camera angles, with our
our quality of camera and yeah, there's always stuff to
(27:23):
build on, you know, like it's it was good, it's
better now and it can it can get better too. Sure.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, So yeah, what was the first moment where you went, oh, fuck,
this could be a business. Like, was it the first
month you saw an explosion and you were like wow?
Or was it a gradual Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
It probably was because when I had an influx of
people come in from TikTok, I was like, Okay, this
is what we're doing now, this is my life, this
is this is my job.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Sure, sure, you're always going to get an initial burst.
So if I'm wrong on this, that's totally fine, you
can correct me. But everyone always gets the initial burst,
especially that you had a platform already. Did you ever
have like a dross a slow little dropdown and how
did that? Did that discourage you at all or did
you just go no, fuck it, we gotta be Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I was discouraging because I was like, I'm losing them,
I'm losing them. But it's you got to keep at
it because you're bringing in new people all the time,
so you got to focus on not only the content
that is the explicit stuff, but the content that will
bring people in. Right, So there's a balance, yeah, yeah,
(28:38):
And that's why it's like, there's no set amount of income,
it's just how much do you want to.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
And that's why it's so beneficial to you. Thank goodness,
right that you your husband's good with his job and
you can take care of Like we said earlier, no
one never goes oh more money yuck. But at the
same time, if your rent's counting on it, that's a
much more dire.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
So, which would be way more motivating.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Right, motivating, but also also potentially push you to maybe
cross boundaries, right, and that's not the relationship you've built
with both the platform and with your family, right right, Yeah, Yeah,
when you're creating content. One of my favorite stories. I've
counted this a few times, but I interviewed Lily Bell
(29:24):
and Lily Bell as a speak little girl. Yeah, she's great.
She told me about this. I asked her what kind
of stuff do you want to produce? And she goes,
I want to do this lesbian scene and I want
it to be very artistic and blah blah blah. I
think it would be perfect. It's in my mind. I
love it. I go, how well would that sell? And
she goes, not very well at all? Okay, Unfortunately, because
(29:46):
there's a market for certain things, there's a market for
certain other things. How do you balance something you're passionate
about versus something you know you're going to want to sell? Like,
is there do you have to try and find a
middle grand between these things?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I think so, because you've got to do what you
like doing. You got to make the content you enjoy.
There's I mean, there's a push for for certain things
that important stars get asked like that don't do certain
things to do it and like but stuff. Sure, and
(30:25):
there's there's a big push for that for everyone to
do that. And if you don't enjoy it, for one,
it's probably going to show on camera. That you don't
enjoy it, sure, but that I mean, why would you
want to make content? I don't know how to No,
(30:46):
that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Its again, I think it goes back to when people
cross over from this is a passion thing into this
is a business. Right. I totally, I totally underst stand
when people say these are my hard lines. I've interviewed
Sarah Jay. Sarah Jay is a storied career, has never
done an anal scene, will never do an anal scene,
(31:07):
has no interest in doing an anal scene. Totally get that.
But I think maybe when people are now we talk
about commenters, I don't give a shit about who's pushing
you to do whatever, But if in your own life
you're feeling like I am a little bit pushed to
do this, I think you just have to sit back
and assess yourself and go, am I really or am
I trying to make other people happy with it?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah? Right? Yeah? And that's something too that because I
would back when I was doing custom videos, people would
request certain things like anal like ture, and I was like, well,
I guess it's not like my favorite thing, but you're
offering this, and maybe I could do a custom for
it just as once. Sure, and then they come back
(31:53):
you're like, can I get another one like that? Like,
I guess, But the whole time it's like, you know,
doesn't get me off? Sure against you? That's it. So
I had to reel that back. Sure, So I was like,
you know what, I don't. I don't offer it anymore.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Sorry, Sure, Okay, all right? You do a lot of
fun roleplay stuff, and you're at this great point where
you're beautiful enough to be Stepsis and and you look
great and whatever. And then also you can apply the
milk roll if you want. What is the trick in
doing role play to you? Have? You? Do you have
any kind of like.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Have a little bit of a sorry, I'm not good
with words. I guess I have a routine. Okay, yes,
you would say, so as I'm doing my makeup and
here I'll be kind of going through, okay, what's our
scene today? Usually that you don't even know what we're
doing until I'm doing my makeup, because I need to
(32:57):
know how I'm going to do my makeup.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Sure, Like, okay, am I doing more of like the
big lashes and you know, freckles or pigtails?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
It depends on what we're doing, right, So I'll get
into character while I'm doing my makeup and here like, okay,
we're doing steps Is today, So I'll be like, start
getting my steps is nude and like its kind of
playing with what lines I'm going to say and just
(33:32):
get in that mental space. But if I'm doing the
step mom, I'm going to be a little bit more.
You know, I'm not going to have pigtails, and so
I'll be like probably more more like this, and I'll
start getting into lines and rehearsing them and getting in
that mindset for that.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Okay, Okay. I've been with my wife for eighteen years now.
I think we met when we were like nineteen years old,
and only recently did I try and get her into
dirty talking, okay. And the problem is we are both
so sarcastic and sardonic, and you know, like I'd be like, ooh,
(34:12):
you like when I grab your tits and she'd be like, yeah,
it feels real nice facts and it's like, oh you
just like my dick's gone. Now.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I'm kind of like that a little bit too. That's
that's us actually a difficult thing dirty talking, and for me,
it's a whole other thing besides just performing your hat.
I mean, it goes with it, but it's another layer
to it, and knowing what to say in the right tone.
(34:44):
There's things I've said and they come out like like
I didn't That's not what I wanted to say, and
it makes it awkward. And but also comedy is like
in the back of my brain to so I'll be like, oh,
you want to get me pregnant again and we have
(35:05):
to deal with the sleepless baby on the like that's
what comes in my mind when that stuff pops.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Up and you can't put that out right. Have you
ever done like a funny one like that? I wonder
to know, see I wonder if that's like the Lily
Bell thing. Like all I want to do is see
a scene of you shooting something funny and then at
the end I would be like, you know, okay, I
don't need to watch that again, but it was.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I have I have bloopers that I'll send out that's funny, okay,
of just the process of or like you know, the
clip of like him in position air humping just to
make sure the camera like it's catching everything and just
you know, just flaccid, just just going for it, just
(35:56):
making sure. We gotta make sure sure and or like
just like certain positions will make me like sucking a
lot of air, just you know, letting those rip. That's
all in like bloopers and stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Let me ask though, as as a real mom when
you're doing a step mom scene or anything like that
is the key to just separate how it? Yeah, it's
a weird thing, right, Yeah, how do you intercept? And
was that ever a boundary where you were like first
I was.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Like, there's no way I'm doing that. It's too close
to home, right, And but there was. And that goes
back to the doing things you like versus doing things
that sell. Right. Even though Steps just does good, but
my milk step Mom does really good. So I enjoy
(36:59):
the Steps this content probably like just being kind of
playful with it. The stepmom stuff, I enjoy it, but
not as much. But there's a there's more people like it.
People just love it. So I'm like, okay, And but yeah,
(37:21):
there is a separation. I have to because sometimes it
can feel a little yes.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
So how do you push yourself away from that? If
it feels I do it?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
You're just trying to, like, how.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
The do I do that, Jesus, If.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I do that, I think I think of a guy husband, sure,
in terms of a younger guy, but not like a.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Different steps sound sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
You know, like a younger guy like twenty three gotcha?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Gotcha?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Okay, and it kind of has that like, oh, I'm
more more sure, more experience than you kind of feel. Still,
but it's not my step son, gotcha, and he's not
that young.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Okay. Thank you for clarifying. You wanted to make sure. Okay,
Now you did your first girl girl seeing right with
a person I had on this show, I believe if
it's wrong, Mazie Mazie Monroe, Yeah, I love her. I
think she's an artist, a kid.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
How did that come about? And and was that a boundary?
Because again to the audience that says I talk about
my life too much, I've always told my wife you
can cheat not you can. You can cheat on me
with a guy, you can't cheat on me with a girl.
And by that I mean I don't want you.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I'm in that, that's where your boundaries are. For that.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
I'm an apple. I don't want you hooking up with
other apples. If you need an orange, just let me
know and like, you know, maybe like a watch who
fucking knows, Yeah, just tell me details about it later.
So I assume again we start the boundaries on. I'm
just showing my tits, I swear, and now you're like, hey,
I think I want to go down on this chick?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Right?
Speaker 1 (39:15):
How do we grow into that? Was it simply just
the success of the only thing.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
I wanted to give the fans a little bit something more.
I was like, We've been doing this, I'm not collaborating
with other men, but I still want to give them
something different. We've done different role plays, I've done a
little cosplay. I was like, what else can we add?
So but a fan was like, oh, would you ever
(39:44):
collaborate with another person that I really like? And I
was like, oh, okay. So I talked to my husband
about it.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Sure, and we're like.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Well, you know, you can be there or not and
we'll just do something light and it went well, Like
he was he recorded it.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Now, did you present to him that it was Mazie
Monroe and go through it or were you like, like
to do something with another performer here's Lexington Steele. Was
it was the you weren't going to surprise him with anything.
I assume you go into this and you go one hundred.
Actually the person because.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
We met her before we ever did anything, gotcha?
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
So so when I was like, oh, I think i'd
want to collab with Mazie, he was like, oh that's
that girl we met it.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, all right, So then tell me
about that collaboration and what did that teach you? Did you, Mazie,
I assume was already like well established at this point
and had a career. Did you kind of give up
controls on this and go what would you do? Was
it a fully fifty to fifty?
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I think I kind of put it in her control
a little bit because she's been with girls before. I
mean I have back in the day, but like as
little drunk hookups.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Sure not not this and not.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Her performance, not a but I mean there's some crossover
from being with my husband performing. We know camera angles,
we know how to put on a performance. So but
she kind of took the lead on because I'd never
scissored before, neither waiting. It's like how do I do this?
(41:29):
And I was like, oh, we need lube? Oh, like
because I didn't know, sure, and it was a learning experience.
But that's what made it fun too, all this new stuff.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
So you had, like, you know, hookups in the past
or whatever, but this is like the first time. This
is like a real like I'm doing something a little
bisexual here I'm doing Was that a turn on for you?
Was it a fear for you? I assume you weren't.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
About doing it? Right? Does it feel good?
Speaker 5 (42:03):
Because I, you know, I've done that with man and
I'm kind of I've gotten good at that, but like
how many fingers you want to lick the same time.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Like you've had the parts, but it's almost like you're
learning how to work with a new version of it, right, yeah, okay,
all right.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
And that's what made it fun to you though, because
I love learning the stuff. I like a challenge. And yeah,
sure it was good.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
I'm sure you'll say Mazie was the best teacher in
the world. But let me just ask this. Did it
feel like a huge step for you or once it started?
Were you comfortable?
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Were you like, h once I started it was, I
was comfortable, gotcha? Gotch I was like, okay, this is
this is easier than I thought. Okay, And and it
turned out good.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Okay, all right, So what did you learn from that
first girl girl scene about yourself, either sexually or did
you learn anything?
Speaker 2 (43:07):
The way I learned is that I like to cut
the camera a lot more. I like doing things in
little snippets, little little phases. Maze was like, oh, no,
let's fine, just keep rolling. Just let's just keep rolling.
So it's like, okay, so you know, I might not
(43:30):
say what I think is the best thing to say,
but it's going to go out there to be honest.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
It feels feels a little bit more authentic, then feels
a little more genuine. It's like, no, this is a recap.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
It was a one cake thing like that. It was
like we're rolling and everything that we did we did
for the first time. But at home it's like, we'll
do I mean just at the beginning a year intro
we you know, we will do several takes. Still, it's
(44:03):
it's what I want.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Let me ask this, how tied in is your husband
in terms of where you are now? Because he still
has the other job. Obviously that you've said and this
and that, but is it more? This is Kara's project,
and I will help when she needs me to I'll.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Be starting becoming more more with him, okay, because he
sees how far I've come with it, and I mean,
how far we've come with it. It's he's part of it.
And I was like, we really need to dive into
this and put our apples into baskets that are rewarding us.
(44:46):
And I was like, I was also like, what, you know,
you could quit your job and then we could like
put more into this, but we're like, Noah, because we
got that health insurance and all the other pluses that
come with that.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
I interviewed a newer girl that was coming up through
the OnlyFans' ranks and she's she's now my best friend
in the industry kat Karma orgasmic, and she got to
the point with her husband where they realized we are
leaving money, a lot of money on the table by
not dedicating our full time to this. It's almost like,
(45:26):
you know, if your wife has a job and she
makes a thousand dollars a month and child cares fifteen hundred,
you might as well fucking stay home. We're losing out
on this right So you know, knock on wood. I
hope for you it gets to the point where your
husband goes. Dude, I'm losing so much money going into
work every day. We need to fucking you know this, Yeah, exactly.
(45:49):
So how are you going to approach collaborations differently? And
how have you approached collaborations differently? This seems like it
was you kind of put the feelers out there, you
found a great person to work with that or someone's
comfortable and everything else. How have you done it since then?
How are you going to do it forward? Are you
going to take more of the show?
Speaker 2 (46:07):
And so I've been with four women total, and they've
all been very similar. We do a little tiny bit
of role play. I would like to do more role play.
My husband and I on our scenes, we do a
little bit more extensive role play, sure, and to really
(46:27):
build that dynamic and do a little character development in
the fastest amount of time you can. But I'd like
to do that more with with my female collaborations.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
When you won your award, first off, what was the
award for?
Speaker 2 (46:47):
It was for the XMA Creator Wards Female Clip Creator
of the Year and that was twenty twenty five last year.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Did that just blow your fucking mind?
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:58):
When I never thought this is no offense. I think
you went did you go up against Hailey Rose.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Hailey Rose? I think Jules Blue, Ellie Clutch, some other
like big names were in there.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
There's no way, dude, no offense at all to you.
Those people are covering my fucking timeline every single day.
So to be able to pull out that win really
speaks a lot to the fan commitments. They said the
wrong name up there, my bad. Uh that's crazy, isn't it?
(47:35):
Like the first year we were we I had a
co host at the time, we're nominated for an AVN.
We put nothing out. We just you know, we put nothing.
I maybe did one tweet that went out to like
four hundred people. And it's just the most validating feeling
having other people go, at least for me a nomination, Hey,
you deserve this. What did it feel like for a
(47:57):
win where it was like, not only do you deserve
to be in the group, you are her?
Speaker 2 (48:02):
I felt like, not only do I have like my
fans love me, they tell me all the time they
love me, but to have everyone in the industry kind
of know me now, Yeah, that was I felt included.
I felt seen, I can finally one of you.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
Yeah, that's so. Yeah, that's amazing here. Yeah, I have
heard you want to look into You're not opposed to.
I've interviewed people that go, I don't ever want to
do studio work, have no interest in doing it, and
I want to. You have commented and said you would
like to.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
I would love to try it, Okay, all right, Yeah,
I think it would be. It would be a whole
different thing. You got camera crews, you got the whole.
If they do your hair and makeup, you know, I've
never had that, They give you lines. I don't even
know if I'll remember my lines. But I'd like to
try it and see it and give it a good
(49:00):
and give it my best.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Now does the issue come in finding the right thing?
And let me ask this, where is the comfort level
in the home? I assume this would be a lesbian scene, right,
it would have to be, gotcha? Okay, So that that
is a firm boundary we are going to stick to that.
We're not going full swinger lifestyle here. We're content creators
in this aspect, right Okay, Yeah, all right, that's fair.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
And I've been it's been something.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Oh I apologize. I'm going to show you that afterwards.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Okay, whatever if you want. I've had some some pretty
well known male creators reach out and I've had to
turn them down now, So it's been a little internal
struggle for me with Dob.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Gotcha. And but are you able to let's be honest again,
who's not listening to this? Are you putting little hints
in the ears at all? Like you know?
Speaker 2 (49:59):
I mean, yeah, but it's such a hard bound gotcha?
Speaker 1 (50:04):
And at some point, you know, maybe you don't feel
this way, maybe you do. I feel like it sounds
like he has been supportive in everything, he has been helpful,
He has been right there with you, Like, I'm so grateful.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
That he's done what he's done.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Sure, you know, and maybe maybe someday that boundary gets touched,
but you know what if it doesn't, he has you know,
he's he deserves credit, right can we say that?
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (50:27):
For sure?
Speaker 2 (50:28):
And I'm and there's people that they have been very
successful in this industry that haven't collabed with anybody other
than their partner. Which if we're going down that route, like,
let's make sure we uh get to where we need
to be. I don't let's I don't know. I don't
(50:51):
know I'm bad with words, But what I'm saying is
if I if like, if I don't collab with with them,
then we go to make it.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
Just as good ourselves, right you go, Well, collabing with
this person in this high level type thing would present
this type of content at the end of it. I
understand you don't necessarily want me working with this person
or this type whatever. Let's elevate our stuff so I
can say I have something very so so we.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Can still grow.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
But still, yeah, I think that's great. And to me
that is exactly what you said early on on that
I don't think you use the term type A but
the go getter, the yes, get this done. You don't
ever seem complacent. It's never just I'm good.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Yeah. I mean there's things I try and I'm like,
I didn't like it, gotch But yeah, this isn't one
of those. This is like we're mastering it.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
Sure, Sure, ladies and gentlemen. My guests for today, Cara
Beer K E R A B E A R links
to everything or in the episode description. Website is very
similar to that, so make sure you check that out. Carrot,
what is the ultimate goal of this and my last
question here. What is what is the end goal? Would
(52:12):
you love to get to the point where you could
quote unquote retire your husband, where you could be like
and that.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Would be I don't even think I've thought that far. Sure,
I would just love some recognition for for all that
we've done. I guess I think that. And money's great too,
but ultimately making content I enjoy. Yeah, and if other
(52:41):
people want to watch it and pay for it and great.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
All right, ladies and gentlemen, My best, my best, my best,
your best best bear, my best bear. Well, no, I'm
going to show you a picture afterwards, but my best bear,
Cara Bear. You know exactly where you can find her
links to everything in the episode description. I want to
say thank you so much for coming on with me today.
You may not be the best with words, as you say,
(53:08):
but you get your point across very well and I
wish nothing but success for you going for Thanks you
very much
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