Heal Men, Heal The World Feat. SupaNova Slom

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Mm hmm, So.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica and
I'm Mila. Happy Wednesday, you guys. Happy Wednesday. People.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
You've made it to another Wednesday where you get to
hear our beautiful bosses.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh wow, that's why they tune in. They're like, I
must hear Erica singing la. We're gonna lose his listeners. Like,
we didn't come here for this ship. You guys got
you guys got popping and think you could sing. Everybody
else does it.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm all doing well, podcasters are doing it.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
I think we're the late to the singer. I was
just saying everybody, I was everybody on the intern. I
think they should be a rapper. Amber Rose is a rapper.
I'm like, fuck it, let me just spit my little game.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Surprise me. It's a song.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Surprise me. Wait, take me to Dominican Republic.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Spokey that song get stuck in my head?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (01:17):
You don't even know the words? Don't malet me pull
it up?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Surprise me? Why me and z me? I mean all
of them sound the same, so we really could just
like do like a one album, do it real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
I don't know, I think I missed my calling there.
I think it's over for me.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
I don't know, men be becoming like late in life
rappers all the time, so I don't know what you're
talking about me.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
I would like to shoot a music video.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
That's that's really what I want. I just want the
music videos.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
I mean, I have shot a few music videos in.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
My in my day, I have it, so we need
to make it up. All of our photo shoots are
like like the highest level of like like the music
video that I've done.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
So I just really one time I did a music
video for a song that I did with my friend
Jared and actually Sebastian, He and his friends. They dressed
me up as a mermaid.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Oh, oh my god, I remember this.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
On the beach, but it was like a gothic mermaid.
And so they've like made a tail out of black
trash bags.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Oh and then I had like slicked my hair back
and I'd glitter and shit and I couldn't move and
they all had to carry me around. It's the plastic bagtail,
we're gonna.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Have to And then I recently saw something on Instagram
of like a like a dot, like a like a
bondage a bondage mermaid, and I was like, wow, they
copied me.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Oh they told me searched the internet for that.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
I must have seen it.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
What was it? Ian?

Speaker 3 (02:27):
J yep?

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Are you still eating? Ja? Look at that?

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:30):
I know we're not bondage mermaids, So damn, how are you?
I'm great?

Speaker 3 (02:37):
I'm great.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I am you know, growing becoming more of a woman
every day.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
I think you were. I think you're a woman.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I know, but I'm like getting real two feet in
the grown woman. You know. I was in denial for
a while, but I'm months away from thirty five and
I'm like, bitch, you're an adult. You're doing it. So
I'm just, you know, embracing all the growing pains, taking
responsibility for my procrastinations, and you know, just I'm excited

(03:06):
about this chapter in our Lives. And the book's about
to come out if you guys haven't heard, hear it
here First, The Good Mom's Guide to Making Bad Choices
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Speaker 3 (03:21):
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(03:43):
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Speaker 3 (03:57):
Also, we just announced our next reach in Saulita, Mexico.
Salulita is also known as Pueblo Magico, which means magic Pueblo,
which means you know, some magic is about to pop
off in Salulita, Mexico. The dates are July fifth and
July twelfth. This is a women's retreat the Sorry men,

(04:18):
you're not allowed to come, but make sure you click
the link in this episode description to really see the vibes,
because it really is just I can't. I can sit
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(04:39):
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Speaker 3 (05:29):
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I love it. I'm tapping into Blossom.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I think I asked their landown. He's like what. I
was like, you're two. What happens when you're dated a
young nigga. It's because he's Jamaican. He says, he doesn't
really know American. Why did he move from Jamaica when
he was five? But apparently you know, when you're in
the house, boys are watching Blossom. Oh right, that's true.
I think that's like some of it like some like
I think we have this particular growing up because we're

(06:38):
like in the white ass Valley, so we're there's like
I'm like, you don't see grease lightning? The fuck? What
the fuck?

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Nigga?

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Okay, Anyway, today we were joined by a wonderful guest.
We're so excited if you guys have joined us already
in April. This is we're highlighting all plant medicine, all
natural healing, and what better way to have to introduce
natural healing than with author father son of the Queen

(07:10):
Afua Supernova.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Welcome, Hello, welcome, thank you for joining us.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Congratulations on the book.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
I was able to take a pre copy, put my
hand on it, put the vibes.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Oh, thank you, putting off. Thank you. I'm so excited
to hear about the work that you do because I
think the work that we do similar types of you know,
modalities and things, but you're really tapped into the men
and their healing. And I think that that is something
that a is so so so so so so important
in our community, especially amongst black men. And I know

(07:48):
that in like my research, even in our space of
women's retreats that are catered to our community, which our
retreat is for everyone. It's you know, weather, black, brown, whatever.
Although I will say that most of the women of
color come trying to research and just seeing what's out there,
there's definitely an extreme deficit in these type of experiences.

(08:12):
And then I actually went and started to look up
men's retreats and and just like just any sort of
like programs for men, and it's really there's some huge
deficit in it. There's a huge like gap in or
maybe like I'm not looking it up properly, but I
was like, Yo, where do men? Where is where are
these spaces for men? So I'm really I'm really grateful

(08:34):
that you've created this space for men to tap in
and to start their healing journey and and take care
of themselves.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
That's the key. That's the key.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Can you tell us kind of your journey into how
you became supernvous?

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Like wow, that yeah, I guess I was going to say,
I know, your mom's Queen of Foo, and I know
obviously you grew up in like a certain upbringing, but
like was a lot of times our moms can tell
us shit and we don't listen so like was that
was that always the programming or was there something like
a shift that you took on this work that's a
good setup.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Well yeah, so hmm. Being born and raised vegan in
Brooklyn in the early eighties, my mother and my father
were both vegans before they had me, and then they
conceived me. In that I was the oldest in that environment.
I was queen of Fool's first holistic wellness experiment.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
You're a vegan since the womb.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Since the womb, So that means, you know, just to clarify,
because these days, anybody some type of something with something,
so no animal nothing, So no animal nothing. I oh,
you know a little bit of this. So I didn't
have none of that. For the first five years. She
had me on just live foods, no cook foods. So
I was her first experiment to really, you know, you know,
just see how it was to have a And I

(09:53):
was a fat eighty I was real fat. So I
wasn't you know, nutritully deficity a lot of the guns
that parents have if you're not having a traditional American diet,
you know. So I didn't. I didn't look like any
any other child that you know. I look like another
little fat baby, and you know, she had me on
the live foods, and you know, so I grew up

(10:15):
in that environment, grew up around her doing the yoga
and the meditation and had me around all her you know,
like how we're contemporaries doing the work. That was me
as a little kid with like us, you know, being
around all these titans in the wellness space and my
father and her divorce. Unfortunately, my father, he got caught
up in the substance abuse and crack cocaine, you know,

(10:37):
so I had to call myself the medium of balance.
I have both of both worlds, you know, my mother's chlorophyllm,
my father's crack. Right. But people only see me through
the lens of my mom, so they just judged me
from that, not knowing that there's a whole other type
of dynamic that makes me me. It aims super nova.
When I was five years old, she said she named

(10:58):
me that. She said, that's my power name. She says,
gonna be your power name to protect you in life
as you claim it. She was like, she told me
that when you're ready, you'll you'll walk in that and
that'll be your protection. So although I'm an artist and
you know, I do rap and I've used it in
that modality. I used it professionally as an author too.

(11:18):
It's it's not that it's it's more of my power,
my personal power name, you know, and so uh, you know,
I will have my time in my life where I
rebuild it. Like to your question against her teachings, we're
not really teaching, but you know, just kind of you know,
you want to be in the streets, you know, in
the streets in the eighties and in the early nineties,

(11:40):
it was very tough in Brooklyn and I and I,
you know, doing the men's work, doing the man Hill,
I self work inspired by the book that me and
my mother put forward for the brothers. You know, I
had time to go in journey to know what happened.
Why did I end up in the streets? Why was
Because that's that's what you want to for the brothers
out there for listening, you know, we want to encourage

(12:04):
men to take the time to just slow down in
their thinking and their journey to see the trauma trace it.
You know, whether it be how you show up with
your women, you know, if you're an abusive brother, if
you're over dominated like that comes from somewhere that's not
your original programming, you know, in many different things, right,
So I was able to see my law to the
street had to do with my father and his absence

(12:26):
and him also being a victim of that particular aspect
of substance abuse. You know, my journey in the street.
I didn't want to end up like him, so I
didn't I didn't dabble into substance right, So I was
like a it was like a shield. Look, I'm not
gonna he's a victim, right, but I'm attracted to him

(12:47):
in that environment, you know. So I was going through
that just not long story short. I had that dynamic
going on. My mother is, you know, on one floor
teaching twenty one day cleansing modalities, my stepfather, Barba Heru's
teaching can medic one on one commission courses now Valley
Tradition courses. And then I'm on the top floor, you know,
counting money and you know, because I was, I was

(13:10):
hustling guns and you know, I was you know, I
had my time with gang violence and different things like that.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
So when did you enter into that into that space
were you were like a teenager and was your mom
was your family aware. Was that something you were kind
of like keeping.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
No, no, there was My mom was aware, and she
did everything she could to really just stab me in
the path. I mean, I didn't really have any excuses.
I had great male Like my stepfather was awesome. I
had two step fathers by the time, you know, that's
my second step father, but both of them were good men,
great men. My mother had a lot of powerful brothers
that she considered her spiritual brothers that you know there.
For me, it was really the what my father was

(13:44):
in the projects, going through his dynamic, you know, and
and and that that was I would visit him on
the weekends, and my mother is in the in the
brownstone right, so like so everybody doesn't really have those
type of extreme experiences, right, So you know, I'm literally
going visiting my father with the game bangers and the
pushes and the dope folks and him in that condition
and navigating that space as a young man. You know,

(14:07):
you know, you don't want to part of a young teenager.
You know, that's a to say a parent is a crackhead.
That's a you know, that's a that's a fighting word,
that's you're ready to pop off, right, So I had
that armor, you know what I'm saying. Because of that,
and then my father, my mother's side, of course, you know,
she's she's been doing this work forever, you know, my
whole entire life, she's been doing the healing wellness space.
But she held great space for me. But I had

(14:29):
to go through the rights of passage. I had to
go through that rice of passage, you know. So I
don't blame I don't have that trauma that she did.
She didn't do something, you know. And then in me
knowing where my trauma came from my father and me
wanting to show up as a young man and go
through that rights of passage, I forgave him in that
time too, you know, but it took time, right. So
this is what I show brothers. You know, when we

(14:49):
have our circles of wellness, you know, do your meditation
to go visit the young man at those times of
that trauma confrontation, you know, do your visualizations and and
and let and release him. Because sometimes a lot of
our brothers are grown men with this still leading the

(15:10):
signal of that young, unhealed man as a grown man,
So you just bringing an unhealed man in the hustle,
in the and the in the grind and everything you're doing,
and you may be doing amazing things, but that shadow
self a lot of times comes from that young, undeveloped
traumatic experience or experiences, and that's who's showing up as
your host a lot of times, you know. And so

(15:32):
in order to heal from that, you have to be
able to get still and objective enough in your reflection
and go through that space and just go through your forgiveness,
you know. And so I did that, you know, after
going through you know, my various levels of the street
life and learning that and almost getting killed.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
And was there something like was there an event or
something like catastrophic that happened? And he said, hold on,
let me take a wait. Was there something that caused
you just I mean outside of just writing the book
with your mom like that said, this is obviously like
there's two sides of the coin, and this is where
I'm gonna go, Like, was there a shift?

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Oh well, I mean I've had a glorious journey outside
of writing a book with moms. That was a beautiful culmination.
But you know, almost got killed in the streets. I mean,
I was you know, I was hustling, and you know,
my mother was able to she she was aware of
what was going on me, you know, and she was
able to come and step in the insto that and

(16:26):
get me the hell out of New York should be
down south for at least my last year or so in
school high school. And that going away is when I
was able to, you know, san kolef Ford, get back
into my consciousness, you know, pretty much tap into the
principles that she laid out a lot of the elders
laid out for me, and really just reflect and then
again I understand what was this attracting to the street

(16:49):
was coming from. You know, I recognized beyond hanging with
the homies and the friends and the peers, it was
really what my father's struggle was and wanting to show
up strong in that as a young man, and that
I can survive that even though you've been a victim
to that, I can, you know what I mean. And
so that me going through that dynamic and having to
heal him that young man, you know, at that point,

(17:10):
you know, I was still a vegan that whole time,
even when I was in the streets, but my personal
awakening that had nothing to do with my mother, just
for my own self, Healing my own self, which is
the title of her first book, Heal Byself. You know,
I was addicted to the processed white sugar, you know,
and and and again in my meditation, I got to

(17:31):
see why why was I always eating sweets beyond the
taste good? Because I was feeling bitter. See, when we
begin to trace the why, right, the addiction, the the
the attraction is a portal, it's a gateway. But most

(17:53):
of us don't ask the questions or quest storn. We
don't quest storn to go into that because we're scared.
It's it's a deep places battle. But that's the that's
the glory, is actually asking the question and going forward. Right.
So the process white sugar sugar naturally from sugar cane,
is naturalist. It's in our fruits, it's in you know,

(18:14):
the sugar cane plant. But when you when you I
take extract the the uh the sugar and you heat
it up, that's when it becomes an addictive substance. And
so it's the number one legal drug on the planet.
It's the universal is something that we all engage in
different degrees. Began and non vegan doesn't matter, like we're

(18:35):
all engaged in that. So in me, I was ding it.
I mean it was just like I did eat no meat,
but I just ate candy every time I could.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
I'm healthy. I think that's the misconception too.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
So I knew I was that that. I knew that
wasn't healthy. But I did understand ve get healthy with
that modality right, not meeting meat right, but on one level,
I'm not doing that the flesh, right, but I'm doing
that sugar crack right. So my father's dealing with crack
cocaine substance abuse, I'm dealing with sugar. Care had a

(19:06):
different addiction, right, But I recognized it was coming from
me feeling sad and having you know that the father,
the father that I love, you know, him not being
able to be strong enough to really show up, you know,
And so the sugar became that. And so when I
was down south by myself, I had my mom and
make me my green juices. I'm gonna, you know, give
me the you know, the the the the nutrients to

(19:26):
get me back into alignment. I had to pop into
you know, muscle memory, and what I remember coming up
holistic you know, so I had to do my own meditations,
had to Nobody was making me meditate. I do my
own remember to do my yoga, my stretching. So I
was taking I was still a young street kid, remembering
my my wellness, metaphysical things that I needed to do to
the tap in and make me a better person for myself.

(19:48):
So everything came online.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
You know, had you been, had you been meditating as
like a young child as meditation, do something that you started.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
I used to teach meditation. My first class was when
I when I first started teaching our ten, I taught yoga, meditation,
and tai chi. I had sixty students every Saturday. Whoa
to knowledge a student?

Speaker 3 (20:11):
What the fuck are so?

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Just the contents so so so you can imagine me
being in the world now with this is standard everybody's yoga, stretching, movement,
meditation and tension, mindfulness. This is my whole. This is
this is me doing this fighting with people who thought
I was weird and strange kid, because I'm talking about
mindfulness and breathing and meditation and what are you talking about?

(20:36):
You know what I'm saying, And you're not eating junk
food and you know at the time, you know, not
eating the sugar crack, just eating, you know, going to
school with uh with organic goppoos and and sprouted wheat spots,
sprouted whole whole grain sandwiches and fighting because my homies
had the boloney sandwiches and why are you eating the
sprouts with the toe food? You know what is that?
And so I had to fight, you know. So it

(20:59):
was a fight for me as a young man being
raised with these principles. It was always a fight. Had
to fight just to beat a young began, you know.
I had to fight because I was the strange one, right,
So it was a fight between what my mother's world
was and my father's well was. Hence me being a
wellness warrior, right, So I call that that affirmative because

(21:20):
I'm fighting for the better quality of my body, mind,
and my spirit while I navigate this life. Right, So
I do everything I can to have the best quality
of life from a warrior's perspective. Why, we also came
from the streets, so I understand that rights and passes
I had to go through as a young man, you know,
being in this country, as our people, especially the brothers,
we go through that street rights of passage. You know,

(21:41):
we go through that. You know that we navigate that
warrior space a lot of times to our dismay, you know,
but we navigate it. So concluding the story with the
sugar crack, I remember I was breaking out, skin was
looking bad. And I remember when I was on a
variety of greens, you know, the the micro nutrients I was.

(22:02):
My skin was always good. I was out of energy.
I was always a vibrant. And my mother when we
were when we were small, she three times a day minimum,
she's giving us some type of green juice, whether she's
juicing the cucumbers to celebrate, the spinas to kill or
you know, or she's doing the micael nutrients with the spirillina,
the corilla, you know they out fout for the dead
in the line. All of the green Michael nutrients the

(22:23):
chlorophyll family, right, So she'll she'll just given us that
because she's we're not getting sick, we're not getting sick
like everybody else. That she's not getting us anocolated. So
she was we were able to navigate successfully because she
was pro nutrient right. A lot of the parents that
were transitioning to become vegan vegetarians. If they didn't master nutrition,

(22:45):
not just eating food, but like really understand michael nutrients
and how much to give your child and right. If
they didn't understand what that was, then they will be
called out and they were. Their families in the eighties
were not supporting, especially black black folks, you know, doing
this type of natural lifestyle. It was really a rare,
so you had to She was pro nutrient right and

(23:07):
was making sure that we had everything we need so
we can navigate. So I remembered all of that when
it was my time to pretty much heal my own self. Okay,
so I did. I went through that process, and I
remember going to the Helpful Store one day. I took
a gallon of greens and uh, I'm gonna took a
gallon of water. Went to the health of store and
I got a quarter pounds of the of the weak

(23:28):
grass burre, leading of the alfalfa, the dana line, the corilla,
and I asked for a half a pound of the ginger.
Ginger's good for digestion but also works good with the
chlorophylic micronutrients. I took a taper spoon of each of
them and put it in a gallon, shook it up
and started sipping on that for seven days, and my
addiction to the sugar crack was going because see the

(23:48):
process white sugar. I call it the sugar crack because
it's it cuts the oxygen flow through the body to
the brain. And this is why you get You get
the hype, and then you get to get the crash right,
and you need more to get back up right. And
so but that's creating that toxic environment in the bloodstream
and the lack of blood flow. So the chlorophyll and
its derivatives to micronutrients, the grains, it does the opposite

(24:12):
of what the sugar cracker is doing. It puts the
oxygen back into the bloodstream, so it causes the flow. Right.
So everything that the sugar was doing to stop the flow,
you know, I read, I re energized the flow by
having the grains. And once I was able to do
that for myself, and remember everything my mother taught me
about micronutrients and the greens and detoxing and especially using

(24:35):
the chlorophyll properties, I claimed it for myself, you know.
So this did become old Queen and Fuld's son is vegan,
you know, because I was raised. It became this is
my personal testimony for myself overcome my addiction to the foods,
but then not only overcoming the addiction by doing the
cleansing physically, understanding what was the root cause emotionally, why
was I even here in the first place eating all

(24:57):
of these sweets because I felt there was a bitterness happening.
I was able to be honest with that process of
why I was o ding on eating junk food. Right
then I was able to forgive myself with that and
heal that. And therefore, when I was physically cleansing with
the greens and then emotionally healing letting go together, that
created an environment for me to transform and transcend. It

(25:19):
wasn't just me detoxic and not checking that emotional space
or checking emotional space but not doing the physical work right.
It's holistic meaning that everything comes online. Your whole being
has to come online. It's not about perfection, but you know,
every day you do something to engage your whole being
to come online, to be the best version of yourself,
even it's just for that moment, you know, and then

(25:40):
you observe yourself. So so this I'm just showing giving
you all, just the genesis of some of the things
that I was dealing with, because it's so much, but
without overwhelming the listeners in y'all, just let y'all know
just these are the different dynamics I had to navigate
through and find my balance. And that's pretty much the
journey that I that I'm blessed to have taken forgiving

(26:02):
my father, wanting to connect with the homies in the street,
the geez, but in a more productive, healthy way, you know.
And so after I graduated high school, I became like
this wellness evangelist. I would go to my mom's twenty
one day classes and talk about my own personal my
own personal transformation, you know. And I would walk around
New York with my gallon and everywhere I went to

(26:24):
have my gallon, you know, and people asked me, Hey, no,
but what you're doing, what you're doing, I'll just tell
them what it was. I wasn't trying to convince them,
convert them. I was just sharing that I was addicted
to the sugar, and having concentrated chlorophyll greens, you know,
helped to give me ridly me of my addictions and
my you know, afflictions to that and hey, man give me,
give me a remedy, let me let me hear something you.

(26:45):
So I would just be sharing it as I would
go by as just passing testimonies and remedies and people
like man, I did I try it at work? So
I just would be doing it like that. Around that time,
I met our beloved sister Erica Badu. Right before baydus
b I Doism came out in ninety six, I was
performing with my band at at this place called the

(27:07):
Brooklyn Boom the Book and Tea Party, I think it
was the Book and Tea Party, and she was in
the audience and we would have featured act that that night,
Me and my band at the time Altered Egos and yeah,
we we taught. Now we killed it, and you know,
her presence was I was like, who is this? I
saw her in the audience, you know, I didn't know
who she was, but she the same energy she has,

(27:30):
you know, as we know her, She had that same
type of spirit, that same queen energy spirit. Right, So anyway,
we connected after the show, she you know, she says
she loved the show and we bonded and then now
talking after the show, she we just talked about We
just talked about everything for like hours, just looking at
each other, talking about life. And then she talked about

(27:51):
how she uh. She talked so about healing and holistic wellness.
I talked about my journey as being raised vegan, and
she she just mentioned Queen of Four and she just
got a book called Hill Byself. I said, it's very interesting.
I said, that's that's my mother. Yeah, So we just started.
So we bonded on that, and so one thing led

(28:12):
to another, and eventually I ended up having a savings
like meet moms. I brought it to the house that
I meet my mother. My father Boba Herru who actually
made her her first uncle. She saw the uncle ring
that's who, that's who lives to what the auns initially,
so I let them meet the parents and you know,
and they we all it became a family. We took
it and she was in New York signed, but she
didn't really tell nobody she was signed, you know, working

(28:33):
on music. But you know, she let us know, you know,
what she was doing. We didn't even know. I had
no idea how big it was going to becoming, what
she was doing. But I would go to the studio
with her and it was phenomenal being in the beginning
of that I doism experience. As a matter of fact,
a little Badu history for those that love Erica, a
little trivia that next like no, the next this is

(28:56):
that next lifetime song. I was supposed to be the
guy speaking in the middle in the beginning. You don't
ever you know, I really, but she had so she
had me in the booth in relationship. She had me
in the booth. But I kept laughing because she kept
making these faces and because she first people don't know
she's a she's a comedian. She could do stand up, honestly,

(29:16):
like at the level she performs as a singer that
folks that know her closely, she has that level skill
that she can do stand up. So she's telling me
to be serious with her. She's looking at me with
those eyes and you know, telling me to tell her,
you know, trying to kick for me to kick it
to her, to convince her that I need her this lifetime.
I'm like, as I kept laughing, I would try to go, yeah,

(29:37):
you know what I'm saying, but you know I don't
want to get with you. Then let's start, don't say focused.
It just kept happening. You couldn't do it. I couldn't
do it, missed, So she pulled. She pulled either either
she pulled the producer, somebody in the camp. So the producer,
the writer, somebody was affiliated with the session. He came
in and he got serious and he did it, and

(29:58):
I missed my opportunity.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
On next you know, her relationship put me in an
awkward position.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Well, you know, I'm just feeling you. I'm just trying to.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Opportunity supposed.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
That's right, That's right. So all of that, So all
of that happened, right, and so so you know, now
with this newfound you know, excitement for wellness. My sister
took me on tour with her, but who took me
on tour? So so she was my first introduction into
the world as uh the medicine man known as the
hip hop medicine Man. As a matter of fact, I got

(30:34):
I got the aff the affirmative title hip hop medicine
Man because we were on tour and we did a
bunch of dates for Buster and Rhymes, and I would
see him in split and I would you know, with Erica,
I had to be on the road with my juicer
because I was, you know, I was the medicine for yes,
you know. Andre Dre with two thousand was on the
tour with us when he could be and uh at

(30:54):
that point she was.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
Predict with seven. So I was thinking all the juices.
I mean, we went all around the world, but anyway
west around. Every time I would see him, I'll run
and give him a green droops.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
He said, oh, I got to drink it now, nobody's all.
He said.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
You know, you're a medicine man. You know, your hip
hop's medicine man. When he said it, it stuck. I said, yeah,
that's pretty much. I'm a hip hop artist. I love
this work, you know. And yeah, so you know, she
took me around the world and I met all types
of people and just I would just share the wellness ministry,
you know, and between me traveling, I started this thing
called the hip hop Meditation cycle in the nineties, and

(31:27):
that was more for the artists.

Speaker 5 (31:28):
I saw see a point about that I meditate, you know.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
So I bought back those principles when I was ten,
you know, because a lot of artists I knew were
dealing with anxiety and stress, you know, even though they
have love, blessings, and things happening to them they didn't
even know how to send to themselves. So I said,
you know, this'd be a good way to all the
hip hop artists I appreciated and all its and stuff.
Let's bring Miguel. Let's just meditate, you know, and have
them tap into those techniques. And so these are the

(31:53):
things that I started just doing in the genesis of
me back in the day, just really making this holdist well,
which is part of my calling in a street light.
At once I was able to you know, transcend that,
you know, I was still connected, just not in a
negative way. At the same time, around in the ninety
started organization called the Unified Thehood Hilberhood at that time.

(32:15):
At that point, you know, in the in the mid
to late nineties in New York, whether the West Coast.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
Loved it or not, crips and bloods, that was what
it was.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
That was what even a lot of the gangs that
were affiliated before got absorbed into a lot of that.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
So it became really really ground zero crazy, you know.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
And so in the midst of that, you know, all
the tools again I learned from my moms and the
peoples and the elders I just use those same principles
of unity and meet gay mediation and really just tried
to work on, you know a lot of the problems
that Phillips would have a you know, the conflict and
create conferent resolution, you know. So that became a passion
of mine, you know, just helping to stop a lot

(32:53):
of the gang violence in my city and in neighboring cities.
And so the passion between you know, uh, fealing you know,
dealing the hood with the wellness and unifying the hood.
That became pretty much what I've been known as in
the many works I've done from those Mormon sins, you know.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
And that all brings me more stuff.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
But that brings me to the current project embody work
called The Wellness Warrior, which is the book that me
and my mother just put out called Man Heal Thyself
Welvis War's Journey the Self Mastery, And so it's it's
a book inspiring you know, men to be excited about
their self care, you know, and to be excited about

(33:34):
you know, owning their healing space. And the more they
do that, they can unlock their true power, their masculinity
and their Godhead, you know. Not what was told about
how we are supposed to be masculine based upon our trauma.
You know, our trauma coaches have become what we use
as our masculine signal. And in some levels it may

(33:56):
have it may work as an interface, but ultimately it
it leads us with in a situation, heart attacks, hype
of tension, diabetes is not neglect.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
Looklect.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
A lot of men are dealing with a lot oftglect
of self. So you when you're neglecting yourself, you leave
yourself open for attack internally externally, you know.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
And so.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
The call to action is for the for the warriors
to become, you know, beacons of their own wellness. You
know how women have y'all example, like this show, y'all
create spaces for for conversations and growth and development and
for engaging. Right, but the men that love your show
and men that come and support the sisters and sister
just like you all, you'll create the space. But we

(34:38):
must do the work that in the space that's created.
You know, we must own our work, you know. And
and the more we could be inspired by the women
who are taking action. Because women, no matter where you are,
you'll find ways of fellowship like the like they have
a day coming up in the next retreat. Thanks right, right,

(34:59):
So example for that, like you said, sisters, come out,
we have this retreat going on. We're going to be
in this part of the world. We rocking and rolland
we're going to do this healing. So you know, this
is the standard of what y'all do these days. Y'all
do that online, your fellowship, you'll do the work. And
so even when women are going through different traumatic experiences
and transitions, because you'll have those sister's circles, you know,
it helps you'll navigate, It gives you twos to you know,

(35:21):
really get back into your power quicker, you know. And
so inspired by a mother's work, particure, women, inspired by y'all,
inspired by many different sisters that I admire doing the
wellness work. You know, I felt it was an imperative
that we set up a paradigm shift for men that's
beyond the algorithm that allows brothers to go deeper in conversation, right,

(35:42):
and for brothers no matter where they may be at
and their social economical structure, you know where that may be,
even from the point of being heterosexual or the rainbow
community brothers. Right, this men coming together here. You know,
that's the call action for men to come in heal
because truly, if when we're men come together and to
address the journey of trauma and own that space and

(36:04):
do the daily work to let that go is transformative
not only for yourself, but then you wouitnize and other
men going through that transformation.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Right.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
And so that that's the space that we set up
with Manhill byself as a non judgment zone. It's not
about being alone perfect right, right, But it's about laying
out the tools to encourage men to own their space.
So men are responsible for one of the first in
the first chapter is called the family man of unity
and wealth.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
And so that affirmation of the family man of unity,
be wealthful.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
All starts with you and you and your tribe, right
and so and where do you have have?

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Not?

Speaker 4 (36:41):
That's going to come from understanding what that journey was
for you and your family, right. But in you you
have the tools to unlock that if you're willing to
do that work, right, you have to unlock and them block.
But if something happens to that little five year old,
that ten year old, that fifteen year old that he
doesn't really talk about. See, most of our women don't
even know us, for they know, y'all know our straw man.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
You know I represented representative and y'all, y'all selects.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
Y'all collectively celebrate aspects of our straw man and our
presentation so much that even if we're not trying to
be that, we lock into it just to get y'all,
just to get your's attention, to getting into your spaces.
So a lot of times it's the trauma, it's the
trauma coats of ourselves that our women have come to
acquire from us. Even though you'll want, you'll want, Yeah,

(37:30):
you're celebrate, you want to you want the other side
of that. So so so you know, helping men navigate
that without the without the red pill blaming of the woman. See,
I definitely support the red pill manner spears coming into themselves.
I'm against using the energy to women blame. I call
it beta complaining.

Speaker 5 (37:50):
That's what I call it.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
Because all of that argument in the comments and chatty
patty talking about women and what they're not doing. I
would I would have just used that same intensity and
focus to encourage men to hold themselves account and when
I correct and be the better version of themselves to
attract better as they are doing the healing work, you know,
saying attract more better options because you're you're the better option,

(38:14):
but using it. But if we if we use the
energy to bash the woman, not calling a woman out
for you know, an dispression or unbalanced activity, you could
do that right, But to bash into fame and disrespect,
it's just a waste of your vital masculine force. So
that's my point with when the hell work of man

(38:35):
heal thyself, let's don't waste the vital force. That's let's
just take the energy inward and really go where the
trauma may be ten, fifteen, twenty years ago. And then
if you can free him up and release that young
man from that place of what you've been holding on to,
you may be able to even hear your woman in
a different place. You may even be able to attract

(38:56):
in a different capacity because you have unblocked yourself.

Speaker 5 (38:59):
Right, So you know, not without over over talking that.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
This is the principles that we work with in the
Rights of Passage that we do twice a year. It's
online training, and then in the book we use the
affirmations to encourage men to take on the work.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
The first assignment is called the forgiveness letter.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
We have brothers when they come together and write a
giveness letter to find a time and trauma in their
life where they were mad at themselves for not being
strong enough to withstanding certain type of experiences and really
face him.

Speaker 5 (39:28):
So throughout the training there are different men have to
face themselves in different ways that with certain questions and
certain excignments.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
They've never really worked to this question.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
I mean, I'm sorry, I'm okay against this, and you've been.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Dropping a lot of jobs. I was going to say
all things. Thinking about your mom's book and there's a
there's an assignment in there. Yes, take a woman and
talking about like writing out like all the people that
it like writing all the people that you use they
slept when you stuck with all the men that you've
slept with, both people that you' allowed to enter your body.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
And I was like, oh my god, what a terrifying assignment.
You know powerful, but it's it's terrifying. And if someone
didn't like but if.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Somebody to do it, but you never do it, and
even even the thought of doing it is like all.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Right, is this.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (40:14):
Keep going, So what was what was Queen's points she
was saying to do that? For what what was woomill
she saying? So basically she's saying, right, identify those men
and then like forgive, forgive yourself, Like what was the
next step that she.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
Was I mean, I didn't dive all the way.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Okay, I read that, and I was like, ship, But
what I was also going to ask you to was,
you know, we were talking about circles and women's circles,
and and because you've been in both spaces defiely, like
you know, watching circles that your mom is created and
now creating your own, people always ask us.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Like, what are you going to do like a co
ed retreat?

Speaker 3 (40:52):
And I was like, I don't know how to. I
don't I don't like, I don't got to leave the men,
like you know, I'm just curious, like what are the
differences in these type of circles between men and women?
Like what like because I'm assuming I'm imagining that they
are there's probably similarities, but then there's probably a lot
of differences because men and women need different things access

(41:15):
these parts of themselves.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
So the main difference is men opening up like but
because and this is think about it is these are
not these are men from different social economics backgrounds. So
they're not like, oh, those are just the guys of
a conscious guy. No, it's it's it's all the types
of men you know, typically complexion wise, like it's well,
you know what there and and so I don't like no, no,

(41:42):
but I'm giving you I'm only giving you a caveat
to that because sometimes and now, when we talk about
any type of consciousness, like some people who are not
necessarily aware of themselves, they'll limit them they grouping or
you don't want to them right, right, and and and
so what they do they automatically divorce themselves on opportunity.
And this is not because is we're not when I'm

(42:03):
calling all men to the comments into the healing space,
it's not, it's not it's not the man's who meditating,
it's all men wherever men at my My calling is
man is man's responsibility. Women set up the circle, but
we have to be the workers in the circle that

(42:23):
is set up. In the circle that I'm talking about
with women's set up is the example that y'all take
by like creating spaces for y'all to do y'all's work, right,
So that that's that's that's what I'm inspired by. So
I was just give you that just just for that part,
just for the milicism who are tapping in with us.
But the the the university with all these men are childhood.

(42:47):
It all comes back to that little boy. That's that's
who we're talking to. The whole twelve weeks is a
little boy that is now a man that has responsibilities
as children, has a wife, went through divorce, several divorces.
Not mad at what still man the women, you know that,
So there's different, you know. So that but we start
going through the healing work Stark going to the meditation assignments,

(43:07):
start going through you know, the others have to take
their spiritual baths and then the spiritual bash you put
your herbs in, you know, so that they're also on
a daily herbal regimen. The herbs you know, every seven days.
You know, we moved that. The whole concept is we're
going through the body of man. So twelve states of man, right,
So you have the crown, you have mid section, you

(43:28):
have your base, you have your foundation, and so they
are herbs that work with each of the levels. Of
their body. Yeah, because we're brothers taking herbs for every
area of their body. So you know, you have like
let's say, you know then you know the Marcker root
is good for the reproductive right, uh, the hours good
for the skin. So at every seven days we're at
a different area of the body. So it's set up

(43:50):
body minded spirit right. So it's the body of man
reclaiming your body.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Right.

Speaker 5 (43:55):
So you so every seven days you have to do
some type of spiritual bath with your earth.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
You have to make going your crew, reclaim your your
your healing your My mother calls the kitchen healing laboratory
in your kitchen and you know, get brothers got to
work them pots. So we teach brothers to get back
into the cold and everything themselves, make his salads, make.

Speaker 5 (44:12):
It make your earth right, yeah really, but yet really
get into your nourishing yourself.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Right.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
Then he has writing assignments. He has you know, he
has to do some writing assignments and begin to unlock
and the block like I was talking about, the forgiveness
letter was one portal, right, and so then he has
to create an affirmation, you know, situation for himself based
upon the state that he's dealing with at that time.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Right.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
So basically, you know, we laid out instructionally every seven.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
Days he's tasked with some assignments that he must complete
for himself. He may not be perfect in completing everything,
but the whole point is to creating a wellness environment.
And then that's a paradigm different than what he has
been in from from the trauma, right.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
And the ultimate goal is that he comes out with
a better awareness of himself.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Right.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
And so when the man has the better willness of
him self, he's not as judging and dominant with everybody
else because he's kind of it's himself correcting. And so
the whole excitement in the in the brother's healing is
to excite him with the responsibility of himself. It's all
about him restoring himself. It's not about the plannings, not blaming,

(45:19):
finding the root, addressing the group, doing the spiritual work,
the emotional work, the physical work. You know, we also
have our you know, our our quote movement, medicine, exercise
regimens throughout the weeks.

Speaker 5 (45:31):
But all of these.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
Different things body mind spirits to stimulate him to be
the greater version of prevent himself that he has been
and when he goes to the twelve states of consciousness
plus states of man, now he we call it him
the supreme man of optimum wellness. Now he has all
the tools he needs as he continues to deploy in
his daily life to grab what he needs to reassess. Right,
Because you're not gonna be perfect maybe next day of

(45:53):
the makeday that right, but you have enough information and
tools around you. You have the herbs awareness, the herbs
where it's the detoxing awareness of your social emotional healing. Right,
So all of these things you have around you now
that because you've accessed this, if you need to bring
them online again for yourself in a community, and then
you have me to hold your accountable to, you know,

(46:13):
like like how your sisters do. You have each other
to hold each other accountable. So if we're in the
beginning stages of making this a standard, that's my personal
dream come true is that you know, we create more
safe space for men to want to come together and
do their personal work and hole and and together means
you know, we have what they call the accountability circles

(46:36):
of other men doing similar work.

Speaker 5 (46:38):
Without judgment, just encouragement and meeting men where they are.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
So to your just concluding to your points just about
the difference, there's a lot more similarities of us than
we think there are differences, because I think trauma is
what brings us all together. Good at that you know
it's it's it's.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
People, don't.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
I'm so glad you're talked saying this because just want
your opinion. Do you think anyone escapes trauma?

Speaker 4 (47:04):
No, not one of us. You can't be a human
being on this planet because because because because the planet
with us in it, in it and experiencing it, is
in a traumatic.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
State without experience the world.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
But but it's how we transmute the principle of of
the trauma or I pulled the rights of passage right so,
like I said, I said earlier, thalked about my father
and my energy in the streets. I said, that was
the rights of passage. I started to look at it
different right then, when the pain, I was looking at
it from one level.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
You know, my father, the.

Speaker 5 (47:37):
Traghead, and I had to bang and bang in the street.
You don't know, you know, the typical hip hop rap.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
You know, uh bars, you know, you don't you don't,
you don't know what I've been through you don't know.

Speaker 5 (47:47):
No, they don't know you. You ain't You wasn't upstate
with me? No, I wasn't upstate with you?

Speaker 4 (47:53):
Right, but no, But but that's real, that's what so
But that all the old that's real feelings with brothers
is feeling like I was upstate alone?

Speaker 5 (48:01):
How that makes you feel? To be locked up in
up Cita wore like you.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
Wasn't there when I had to eat you know, quarter
of waters and in cirrub sandwiches.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
Brother, Well, look yeah, how did that? How was that
environment for you? So? So, so those are some of
those brothers that are in the circle with us.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
You'd have said, gone through that trauma on that memory,
you know, and trying to figure out how do I
transcend that? And so yes, my sister, that that is
a universal with with us. And this is why I
think the more men can own themselves in their space
beyond their their economics and the materials because we become
some material flexed and our women support material flex that

(48:40):
we abandoned the other sides of us. And what happens
is in that abandonment, right, we show up only collecting property.
So if I date you or you my woman.

Speaker 5 (48:51):
Just be on my property.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
You're like the things I'll You're no different than my
Gucci belt or the Burking bag I got you, or
the house that I bought.

Speaker 5 (48:59):
Or the car.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
You you're my thing the kids we had on my
things say because because everything has been pro material. But
when when it's pro holistic, I recognize the body mind, spirit,
you know, when the physical connection we have as an
example of the spiritual opportunity we have to unlock if
we choose to do so.

Speaker 5 (49:18):
Which is also our mental and soldiery emotional connection. Right, So,
once wegin to diversify the portfolio of each other, we
start to realize there's so much more wealth into how
we can see ourselves and others. But until we understand
that unlocked that portfolio and we only support it with
one representation, we're limited. And so most men have so

(49:39):
much more to offer.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
And that's what I also recognize this in these trainings
is that but they're only held to the standard of being.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
The provider, which is an attribute of God to provisions.
But it's but.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
You're only celebrated for that of how much you can
bring in which you can supply. And then then you think, well,
then man, maybe I can. Maybe I don't that I
can't show.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Since this holistic wellness is about body, mind, spirit, accountability
for yourself, being the accountant of yourself, you know, taking
an account of yourself so you can be able to
unlock and unblock, right. And I look at at it
as building a portfolio of yourselves, right. And so basically,

(50:22):
everything that I'm doing to nourish myself, you know, with
minerals and daily nourishment is a reflection of my consciouness.
What I'm doing in the social emotional space and how
I'm thinking. It's a reflection of that, and my thinking
and my eating is reflection of how I'm moving my body,
you know, and how I'm actually engaging my joints. Right,
all of this is threading together. And so the more

(50:43):
you can journey into the being accountable of yourself and
saying I'm not going to pass to the auspicious title
of accountability to you, like I'm not going to blame you,
I'm going to hold me accountable because I have this
great portfolio of opportunity that I can unlock them block,
you know. And that's that's the spirit of what holistic
wellness is about. Is being the master accounting man, old woman.

(51:07):
You know what I called the wellness warrior. A wellness
warrior is one that is fighting for the better quality
of your life, body, mind, and spirit.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
I know this month is called, you know, plant Medicine April,
and I think a lot of times when we think
of plant medicine, we think like psychedelics, or we think
like cannabis. But like even you you're talking about like
you know, first you started realizing like the food you're consuming,
the sugar you were consuming, and then how.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Have you suen the chlorophill the plant medicine to detox
from the addictions of the sugar.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Well, I think people disregard like the foods we put
into our bodies are could be medicine or they could
be the opposite, right, and so they like, you know,
they'll go on spiritual journeys with psychedelics and they'll smoke weed,
but they're not really tapping into all of these let
me exactly. And also you said something that was like
that I noticed, and you were saying, you know, you

(51:56):
realize you're eating sugar because you were feeling bitter and
that you had to forgive yourself. And I think that
is a really big like element that people underestimate and forget.
And you know, you talked about having to forgive your
father too, and a lot of times it's like people forget,
like people don't realize that like not forgiving yourself with

(52:19):
for things is what prevents you from forgiving the people
outside of yourself because you're you know, like it's hard
to offer up something that you don't offer to yourself, right,
And so I think for men, like you know, just
talking about being able to be vulnerable or have like
these circles that women have, women have like historically been
able to be vulnerable with one another. You know, we'll
gather and talk and cry, We'll gather and talk about

(52:40):
the breakup. We'll gather and you know, like support each other.
That's like within our nature because by society standards, like
that's feminine. But if a guy is feeling you know,
a man is feeling like heartbroken or hurt or like
trauma is coming up, they may not like go talk
to their homeboy. There are not a lot of environments
where they feel that they can do that. And so
like a lot of men are not holding like they're

(53:02):
not holding each other accountable they're not talking about feelings
because that seems you know, like feminine or whatever the fuck,
you know, like, and so I was just telling, you know,
even right now for Eric and I, like even in
our lives, as I see the men around me, friends, whatever,
trying to develop, and especially because I see us leveling

(53:24):
up in the healing world, leveling up in ourselves, like
being more self aware, wanting to be better in ways,
wanting to dig into our trauma. It's like it's really
shining a light on a lot of the men that
have refused to do that or they have been blocked
from doing it. Like I see how when a man
doesn't focus on his like entire wholeness and his entire wellness,

(53:48):
how it really does pollute the people around you, you know,
like your relationships and your marriages and all, like your friendships,
because not like just eating well and working out and
not really going to the root of the problem and
the trauma and like not talking about it is really
what starts to bleed out, you know, like not being
able to find like a not having anyone you feel

(54:08):
like you can be vulnerable with, and be not being
able to feel like you could be vulnerable with yourself
right is such is such a detriment to the entire
community because if women are leveling up, then it's going
to be hard to find men to level up with
us to create these like these family environments and so
we can create children who know that it's okay to cry,
and it's okay to grow, it's okay to heal yourself,

(54:30):
it's okay to have trauma, and we can work through it.
But like it's it's imperative that men a tap into
themselves enough to follow back the trauma and say like, damn,
I forgive myself, you know, And I think that's something
for men and women. Even for me. I'm constantly like damn,
Like what is like where is the pool at? And

(54:50):
it's like sometimes it's just the simple thing is like
have you forgiven yourself from like procrastinating four hundred times?
Have you forgiven yourself for doing these things? And like,
men I don't really have the space and the outlet
to do that because they are not really talking to
anyone about it. They're holding it in and it's hurting
them and in turn, it's hurting their families and it's

(55:10):
hurting their loved ones. And like you said something earlier
about like you know, like we'll quickly tell a boy
at three years old, like, man, but you don't have
no reason to cry, like stop acting like a girl,
and that inflicts trauma on little boys and put that
motherfucking doll down. You ain't you ain't no girl, like
it's a child. And so it's just like we have
to be more aware like as parents, as moms that

(55:32):
like how we like the safe spaces we create for
our boys to express themselves and to be vulnerable and
to cry and to use their words and encourage it,
because what happens is men grow up with that trauma
and not being able to express themselves. And that shit
is like talking is medicine. Sharing is medicine, Like Erica

(55:53):
and I like are like we can we can definitely
like testify about this, like how much healing, Like our
entity has grown so much because we've been able to
feel safe with one another, with our guests and be
honest about real shit like I've hurt, Like I've hurt people,
I've been hurting. I've been hurt. But like the just
the the safe space to be able to feel vulnerable

(56:17):
is really medicine. And like we underestimate the power of speaking,
and how we can create safe spaces for men, and
how men can create safe spaces for each other. Thank you,
But like, I don't feel like that's a that's not
a norm amongst black men, that's not a normal amongst
most men. And and sometimes like because you don't have
friends that you can share with, honestly, you're not being

(56:38):
real about your emotions. You're numbed out, and then you're
not you're not like gathering friends to be able to
do that. And the thing about like your story that
stood out to me is like, you know, you went
on this journey, you went down south, you started eating,
you started you know, there's knowledge that you had, but
you had to relearn it for yourself, to apply it,
for yourself to be able to offer it. But only
when you did that were you able to tracked the

(57:01):
people in your life that made profound changes. You know,
you like just doing your things, spitting in a bar,
and then here comes this, you know, amazing sacred woman
who's going to offer you something and then you and
through that relationship, you know, that vibration pulled this relationship
where she had already really known of you in ways
because she has was drawn to your mother. And then

(57:21):
you go on this like epic journey, you know where
you're like the medicine man and I'm sure like and
now you've cultivated this book and this program and all
these things. But it's in the honesty, it's in the
vulnerability that we can find friends, you can find circles
where we can do that and then find ourselves and
then continue to draw in our people so that we

(57:45):
can do it as a community. Like as soon as
you make that commitment of self awareness, you will find
the people and the entities and the you know that
creates spaces and project and multiply this higher vibration. It
is it's so much a community, like it's an individual job.
But when you do the individual work, that men can

(58:08):
go tenfold out into the world and cultivate these like
these communities and these families, and like that's why it
is like it is imperative that men start doing their
healings so that as women, when we go find these mates,
that we find like men that are ready and that
are not required that we do the work for them.
Are that not requiring that they're pulling so much for us,

(58:29):
but that you can find two people committed to the
healing and the evolution of themselves individually and come together
to create you know, like family structures and communities that
do that.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
You know, like this this is why love. It's just
it's we're in a state of emergency. We're emerging, and
we're seeing emerging in the sea. We're emerging in seeing emergency.
It's a call to action. See, I'm not here to
play around with the men I know then are hurting.

(59:01):
They have been hurting for a long time. I've been
one of those men. And a lot of our men
have been not self expressed. And so if they have
not been able to show up in their union, in
their relationships as their full masculine express sells, only one
aspect of their masculinity may have been exalted, you know,
their ability to provide, which is an attribute of God,

(59:22):
you know, provisions and to protect. But then there's so
much more that he can contribute. And to your point
about really making him excited about you know, having creating
a space where he's excited to unlock and unblock himself.
That's that's that's the point of doing the rights of
the online rights of passage. We've been blessed to have.
This is spring. So we're about to get into our

(59:44):
what we call our seven formation. We have men all
around the world, from throughout the United States, Canada, Europe, Africa,
the Caribbean that partake, you know, and from different cultures,
different walks of life that come together and and go
through the death the different challenges to challenge himself to

(01:00:05):
be a greater version of himself so he can meet himself.
The key that I that I informed brothers on is
once you our rights of passage is very important for
all of our Aboriginal native brothers and sisters around the world.
You know. Colonialization has cut off that flow from elder
to youth, you know, and so a lot of the
things that would have been addressed of a young man
feeling not self expressed at three, four, five, six years old,

(01:00:28):
traditionally in our tribal families around the world, we would
have had that already squared away. By the time he
was seventeen eighteen, he was already in action and activity,
social emotional intelligence, physical you know, strength, He was already
building these things. So by the time he actually had
a mate, he was able to be a holistic man. Right,
So that has been disrupted. But our women, our sisters,

(01:00:51):
have been holding that that sphere. And all we have
to do as men is be inspired by what we
see how women doing. And I think y'all do it
well and glorious, and all we have to do is
put our man on that. It's like, oh, okay, that's
what they do it. Let's bring those tenants into man language.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
It maybe look a little different because we have how
we show up, right, But I find the more brothers
are sharing stuff express they are, they are now testifying,
their healing is now showing up. And once I once
the brothers get to that place of fully being actualized
and doing his daily ritualistic work for himself, ritualistic for
the people talking about listening, I'm talking about, you know,

(01:01:36):
doing his body, mind, spirit, social, emotional healing work, his
physical fitness, his meditation, his his nourishing himself every single
day without fail, because this is his life. We want
his life to be filled with this, beyond the twelve
week training that we provide, even beyond.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
The life side. Not just a moment.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
It's not a moment. And what happens when you go
through this, brother man, oh woman, you you awaken your power.
It's like now your brothers, when you beat the level one,
now you get level two, you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
Become addicted to it. You do, you become addicted to
like the feeling of progress, the feeling of unlocking yourself.
I was I was thinking about just going back to
you know, people asking us about the men's work, the
men's retreats, and I really do feel like it's not
something we can do right, Like this is a men's issue,

(01:02:27):
Like men have to have to heal them, like women
cannot heal the men.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
All the women can tried.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
And if you're listening this right now says you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Heal him with what you can. Let's let let's let's
focus on what women can do exactly, because y'all can
arrange the way for the man.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
Well, you can support him, you can show him how
you like what you are doing. You can be you
can you can be a beacon of light for his
inevitable healing. But you ultimately like he has to do
the work absolutely. And I have a question about this
because I've been thinking lot about like just what's been
happening and on social media and the things I'm seeing
about and even in our community about this like demasculation

(01:03:07):
of black men, right, and them saying that, like black
men are becoming demasculated by all of by women, by feminism,
by society, media, by by just you know, even men
tapping into their femininity in ways which you know can
be can be argued. What that looks like?

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
What to you?

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Well, do you believe that and be? What is a
divine masculine to you?

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
A divine masculine is a self expressed man that is
a host to the deity identification as God. I have
the same like divine feminine would be a host of
a god is head. To be a host of this presence,
this expression, this cosmic force, you have to be a worker.

(01:03:54):
You have to be willing to be an example of
that in your action. That's why it's an attribute, right,
It's a part of this of the whole. Right, So
of divine masculine would be a man. That is what
we're talking about as well as worries is creating a
daily living for himself that begins to excite, unlock, un

(01:04:18):
block him to be more self expressive. What he says
he is as a man, the body of man. When
I look at all men, black men, white men, Asian man,
Latin men. You know, all men, the body of man
is wounded. Okay, so the perception of man is wounded.

(01:04:40):
Masculinity has been wounded.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
The body of man needs to be healed. It's just
not a group of men. All men and those sexual
or rainbow men. All men need their moment in moment
with their healing. And healing is a lifelong journey. It's
a glorious, hard, hidden, heavy, ugly and beautiful lifelong Jourmany

(01:05:13):
you're never healed up, but you're in healing, and they
cut your wisdom, says So I said that to say,
when we know that men are hurting, period. This is
why we have you know, these beta male leaders with
their hands on the nuke any point, because they have
not built the social motion intelligence of how to deal

(01:05:34):
with each other as men, you know, right as a god,
as a man, God had of this country and so
are you. And we have the responsibilities with these citizens.
How best can we fellowship with each other? So we
don't go to a place where we have everybody exposed
in ourselves exposed, right, So we see the cracks of
manhood globally at all levels of society. You know, men

(01:05:57):
are taught to aspire to be this man when you
when you meet those men, they're hurting too. I said,
with the billionaires and the millionaires, they have some of
the same with social emotional issues too. And you were
like man. All my life, I was trying to get
things to be a master man like you. But you
hurting too. So that's what we have we have in common, unfortunately,
is the body of man has been wounded. So to me,

(01:06:21):
it's an opportunity for man to be rebranded. It's not
about them seeing us this way and that way. Men
need just to get together and fellowship and do this
work because the perception transforms when we transform. Right when
they said, oh, the divine masculine and feminine, you know, listen,

(01:06:43):
I mean you're the best of your mother and the
best of your father at the moment of conception. So
the mask, the divine masculine host the best of his
mother and himself. Bind feminine hosts the best of the
Holy Father in herself. If me and you come together,

(01:07:08):
that mother that you are, that father you host the
man that I am and the woman that I host.
They have an interaction called union entity the entity, So
are we ready to do the work to facilitate this

(01:07:29):
glorious entity that is the father in you and the
mother in me. We're talking about a masking them. And
are you ready for the father in you to meet
the mother in me? Is the father in you, sister
compatible to handle the social emotional flex of the mother

(01:07:49):
principle in me? Right? Because the man that I am
brought me to you? What is the father that you
host it? Now? You see I'm going with this and
s he's in tune with the mother that I'm hosting.
Why Because we are the best of our fathers and
mothers at the moment of conception, wherever they were at

(01:08:13):
the best of that, the best of that. We all
came on the That's why we calm down. We have
to go.

Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
Side.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
That's why I meditated. We love meditating, meditating because we
came in on the meditation. We came in on the thrust,
the breathing, the pump, the eye, the oh, the sound,
the tone.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
And it's glorious to me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
I love it. I love it so much that I
understand that it needs to be cultivated and poured into
a nurtured Our ancient ancestors in the now valley. The
cometic ancestors, they had a hieroglyph called mirror, and the
Greeks took it on as the concept of love, the heart,

(01:09:05):
the agape, the heart now and ken it and the
hieroglyphs on the wall. The hieroglyph was actually a plow.
It wasn't a heart. It indicated you had to work
because they were farmers, right, so they how they showed
love is well, we're cultivating. We're cultivating. So my connection

(01:09:26):
to you is that we this is our symbol to
remind us that we have to cultivate.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
It's not going to just exist.

Speaker 6 (01:09:34):
We are the divine masculine, the divine feminine are gardeners
we have we are not tending to our garden. We
inherit each other with all of the beautiful flowers and
the roses, but we don't tend.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
To the garden. And that's why I said, if we
were going to go deeper into the divine masculine, divine feminine,
you become that divine feminine. You're hosting your father in you?
Is your father ready to date court? The mother in
the man that you attract.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Does that have to do with like healing the relationships
you have with those people and finding.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Absolutely it's all about the Holy Mother and Father. So
the more the father allows me the healing of my
father allows me to grow Father. The healing of my
mother affects my matter, my matters, Mother matters, Father, Father.
I check my family matters in the matter form. And

(01:10:46):
so if I check that and I'm accountable, then I
can grow Father. We never escape the principle of the
divine masking and feminine. It's always present.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
It's and and and it's dear.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
And let me tell you something, sister. They see, these
are the type of conversations that we just go to
the beach of our minds with and we just be
putting our feet in the water because there's a depths
that we haven't yet to fully explore with each other
and ourselves. There's a there's a beautiful depths. And so
the man held myself the energy with that with the

(01:11:26):
brothers says, brothers, unlock your depths with jay Z said,
allow me to reintroduce myself. My name is Hohole. Right,
look at your right, you see how you went into that.
If men, if men retroduce themselves, exactly how you be
like this? With the spirit right because they because they're
doing they really are excited about doing their work for themselves.

(01:11:50):
And the excitement that a man feels to express himself,
the divine feminine is already in divine alignment with him.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
This is what we're here to do.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
It's cosmic. It transcends the ego of how we think
we're supposed to talk and show up with each other less.
I'm trying to say, this life is so glorious, brothers
and sisters, And my prayer is that all of us
experience the unlocking as we go and unblocking. And yes
we'll be hurt, Yes we'll have pain, but we'll heal.

(01:12:23):
See these tattoos are reminding me at one time this hurt.
It don't hurt no more, but I can look and remember.
I remember how that felt. I remember how it felt.
But I'm not wearing the pain no more. Now it's odd.
Now it's reminding of the symbology of why I did it.
You see how it transcended it. The pain was the
pain was just temporarily. I don't have to walk my

(01:12:46):
life with the pain. I can let the pain come
teach me, let me know what it needs to do.
And it can leave me.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
The pain is like a reminder of your humanness that
you feel, you can feel that you're not numb.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
Right, And so I'm saying we don't need to make
it a block. It's like I used the tattoo example.
It came, it got the ink, it hurt, and then
it healed right. So so so I'm saying we can
use it as a way to move through, not as
a way to block us for moving that. That's that
was my point of saying.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
There's also a level though. What I have found was men,
a few men actually met in my life, is that
like this, the the resistance and acknowledging pain, the resistance
and acknowledging trauma, the resistance in the word healing, well.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
I already got I already got it for you be
love it. The thing with when you see men go
through that, it's appearing not to be strong. No man
wants to appear before a woman with lack of strength.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
But it almost feels like they really feel this way.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
No no, no, no, no no no no no. I'm trying
to say it's it's it's it's a universal. Before he
even got to you, he's doing that to his mother.
He's doing that to his women in his life, the
co worker. It's not even wanting to appear to be
one week or not knowing. So if my woman come
to tell me about yo, I got this this wellness

(01:14:16):
cleanic is DETX and these herbs, this and that that
to appear that I'm not weak and I don't and
I might of know. Oh yeah I hear that. Yeah, okay,
I heard about that. So I downplay it because instead
of being open, maybe teach teach me and let me
learn that. Well, maybe my teaching was changing. A woman
can't teach me something to learn, but I'm giving you,

(01:14:39):
I'm giving you all the backstage with the men, right,
is that maybe he was taught that a woman can't
teach him something and if she does, it's gonna make
him look like he don't know what he's doing and
talking about, and therefore she's not going to respect him
and think he's straight. So these are the These are
the These are the undeveloped, unfortunate things that are in

(01:14:59):
the consciousness of our men. So when when we front,
that's fronting. That's just a front. Right. It takes a
fully alpha man is not fronting because then alpha. Let
me let's break down the alpha thing, beau. Anybody gets
caught up in that. An alpha in principle, it means
leader leadership, beta and principle means follow. Alpha female is

(01:15:21):
a woman that you know creates her own pathway. She
leadsing her own pathway. Alpha man creates the pathway and
others look at him as an example and they follow suit. Right,
The most alpha thing a man could do for himself
is being his transparency. The goddess of how you view

(01:15:41):
me or.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Not right part is the alpha male. To be vulnerable,
to be sit with your feelings, offer them.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
But that but that takes like I said earlier about
the cultivation, about the you know, the hieroglyph about the plow.
It takes cultivation to y'all said earlier, you know, getting
brothers to a place where they're excited about their daily
cultivation unlocks that and it changes the attitude. Like you said,
how those brothers show up when we talk about healing again.
He doesn't want to appear to be weaker, right, but

(01:16:10):
he knows he was when you get with him, start
talking to him. He want the healing they all brothers
all wanted. But it's like the how do It's like
the path do I take to get it? And how
do I see myself? And how would my woman? How
would my women see me?

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
You know well, it's almost like they need another word,
like the word he okay gets triggering for them that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
It's something they haven't done, is or like.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
I think about my dad and you know my dad.
Uh grew up in the South. His mom was thirteen
when she had him, and she gave him for adoption
to hit her aunt and they all live in the
same house together. But he grew up thinking that his
mom was his sister, and so he grew up thinking

(01:16:50):
this until he was about twelve or thirteen years old,
calling his mom's sister, his mom telling him what to
do and him being like, you're my sister, Like please
shut up and realize that's your mama. And his school
teacher told him, you know that's your mom, right, like
just casually one day at school. My dad to this
day said it did not affect him. There's no trauma there.

(01:17:11):
He said, I thought about it, and I said okay,
and in my mind and then like my dad, and
it's like, why do you want this to be traumatic
for me like you're saying that this is supposed to
have affected me in some way and it didn't. And
I'm just but I've seen how he has showed up
with women in his life, not letting himself be not
letting himself love them fully. Because I listen, I'm not

(01:17:33):
a therapist, but to me, it's like it goes back
to the root of that the first lie, like your
mother lied to you, you know, and and having a
distrust and you know, I've encountered this with different men,
like having things happen in their childhood that they say
this absolutely did not affect me. This is what they're saying,
it did not affect me, or saying I had a

(01:17:56):
really great childhood childhood.

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
So there's you say, so so numb. That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
The numb tricks you into believing that you honestly don't
feel any way about it. I've done it a million
times myself. I have sat and like, I don't think so,
like you're not going to make me feel trauma. But
the truth is is, like my body, my programming is
so deeply seated, like you just wake up one day
like this is traumatizing. It's not going to make me
suddenly feel feel the pain. It's just that you've conditioned

(01:18:26):
yourself for so long to believe it doesn't hurt. You
can't even register or associate with those feelings because you've
removed yourself from the entire situation.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Now that's that's a woman saying that, going through it
as a woman. Right. Well, look and even you saying
that because you have you attract sis's accountability, y'all? Can
you can easily unlock into that and change that perception?
Now try being a man where every way you look
is the man has locked into that limited expression. This

(01:18:59):
is why the so of healing are important with the brothers,
because it doesn't matter how hard they come. I'm telling
you like I'm talking to say. You know, we attract
all types of brothers. I mean brothers who were in
and out of the system, you know, the jail brothers,
former gang bangers, brothers that served in all levels of
the military. Combat I mean, I'm I'm I'm a combat
veteran myself. I serve in Afghanistan. Right, So we tracked

(01:19:21):
all types of men and once were able to circle
up and look at different types of men and hear
their story nobody's fronting no more. And see men, real
men when they get together, they don't front no more
because they don't have to because I'm sorry to don
the cutry wisdom. So that in that revealing, in that

(01:19:43):
ciphering up, we're able to I take them to we
take them through meditations where they have to face what
you said, the numbness, which unlocks the fronting that they
were doing what you were talking about, how they, oh,
I don't have nothing. My childhood was good. I don't
that never happened to me. When he goes when he
takes space to we talked about the breathing again, just

(01:20:03):
the breathing and centering himself right, and he's able to
remove someone judging him doing this. There are other men
doing the same thing. Then breathing. We all in our
meditation and we'll say, hey, everybody, we go to the
number they about, let's go back to five. How'd you
feel at five? Trauma is it you have for men?
When you say trauma is different than women, you have

(01:20:25):
to unpack that. So how I would say, like if
y'all say a trauma to y'all, y'all kind of go
into a space where y'all know how to communicate where men,
I would say, what was your first disappointment with the woman? No? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't.
But I still it's a gateway. The words matters a word.
So I'm just telling y'all that, no, the words matter

(01:20:45):
in youth crisis. I was just saying that I still
use trauma, but then I what I and how I
unlock it with the questions With men, you have to specific.
But men are very left brain right because we have to.
We want to show up now because we have to.
We can't be right brain, which is our intuitive side,
our God's side, our mother's side, helping to balance our
masculine side right of our brain. We want to show

(01:21:08):
up to be the knowerst to know it all. I
want to be the know it all is to impress
upon you. So I'm pro that. So when you, even
when you're talking with men and doing the social emotional
healing work, you're the questions, is what gets him to
open up the heart space? Hell? And you say, man,

(01:21:29):
he'll thyself right now? I have to. I have to
take him to a place of or are you hurting
right now? Keep it real? Yeah, you know I'm gonna
keep it on, honey, I got it right. So he'll
he'll he'll he'll talk about all this stuff he got,
all his bragg and stuff, and then talk about and
he'll start doing the internal check and saying, way, it

(01:21:50):
ain't really he's been lack of self expressed. He ain't
really been opened up with his woman. He's been really
just mad and angry. Right, So you start to get that.
Once you start to get those questions going, then you
ten brothers on their meditation for them to really begin
to do that inventory work and face that shadow side
of themselves that they've been fronting with for twenty years,
fifteen years, thirty years in relationships committed with their women,

(01:22:11):
and they women don't even know them because they have
never really expressed that side of themselves. Even if their
women is expressed the side. Matter of fact, they're attracted
to you because you express something that they aspired to be,
but they have not found the way to unlock. Right.
So I'm saying, sis, this we're in the like they say,
the cuspos or the beginnings of this. It's beyond just
the hashtag algorithm or mean, we're really in the beginnings

(01:22:33):
of men wanting to create a space for themselves to
go through their rights of passage to be a better
version themselves. And I'm here to support the brothers and
you know, with the training, with the book and why
I can as a brother in support because I'm still
in my healing journey with them as well, you know,

(01:22:54):
and let and to share my journey with them, to
let them know that regardless of where you may be
at wherever in your journey, you know, we have the
tools that we can tap into that can allow us
to be in the beginnings of what a divine masculine
experience can be for yourself. And if you can see
that for yourself, the potential for your experience it with

(01:23:14):
others is limitless.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
Honestly, I want to just like for anybody listening, the
like just being real, Like just being honest is so powerful,
Like you don't have to hide. Like everybody's a little
bit fucked up. Everybody's gone through some ship, everybody's made
a fucked up decision multiple times. Everybody, there's nobody so

(01:23:42):
like feeling like you have to show up a certain way,
Like it's such, it's such, it's such a fake perception,
it's so such.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
A limited view of your expression while you're here, like
right here, right now, Like you have this body, the spirit,
the soul, this time to fully live in your full expression, Like,
don't limit it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
Don't hide, like there's nothing to hide from. No one's
more powerful than you, No one's more powerful than what
you think about you, Like honestly, like coming on here
every week for fucking five years plus crying and shit,
that's something I didn't think that I would have, like
I would be that type of person, but like, who
gives a fuck. I haven't always said things that were right.
I haven't always made great decisions, but like it's been

(01:24:25):
so powerful and I'm not saying do it to millions
of people on the internet. This is a bit extreme,
but like just releasing it and forgiving yourself and saying, like,
who gives a fuck If somebody finds out this is
what happened and this is like and as long as
you're like willing and wanting to grow and evolve and
say I'm gonna be better than I was yesterday, then

(01:24:46):
you're doing enough. And like, like the thing about evolution,
I feel like it is practice and it is reprogramming
because we have learned all of us like the worst
ways to deal with our emotional like just all all
of the shit that like the world brings to us
because it's heavy, but like the power to just say

(01:25:07):
it and be like ten toes down and just always evolving.
It's like it requires that you forgive yourself acquires. It
requires that you take off the mask you know. It
requires that you just like be willing to exist in
your flawlessness, because we are all flawed. But we don't
heal if we hide from it, and we can't heal

(01:25:28):
each other, we can't connect on the most human level,
which we all are human if we can't just be like, hey,
what's up. I'm sad and I need to cry. Can
you hold my hand? Like I'm feeling anxious. I don't
know why, Like I feel angry, like it has nothing
to do with anyone outside of me. But like let's
talk about that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
So that to your point, beloved, there's two things that
need that I that need to happen ultimately in the
transformance of the responsibility of self. The more men become
excited about their self care and start caring for themselves
and real fellowshipping on that for themselves and each other.

(01:26:04):
Then our women need to as man rebrands himself, then
y'all need to let the branding of man go mm hmm, yes,
because because oh well, see, most most times, most times,
most times, men hold on to these arc types to

(01:26:26):
make up impression upon the women that they are attracted to.
And you know, you have some brothers that have shedded
that years ago, like certain type of things that they
went through in the streets and certain type of things
they had to go through, and they'll get a woman
that instinctively is still attracted to that arc type and
that's that was normal to him at one point. He's
kind of left it alone. But he's digging her and

(01:26:48):
she's really into this arch type and she recognizes in him.
And it's probably not as big as it was when
he was in his you know, uh, deployment of life.
But but she she likes that, and he recognized she
likes it, and then he feeds it, right, and then look,
and then he feeds her that and so then he
becomes it for her, but not really where he has become.

(01:27:12):
So I would challenge my beloved sisters around the world
who are doing your self care, yourself work, really it's
a reflection like if you're taking yourself through your sisterhood
rituals and doing your healing and you're rebranding yourself and
you're tapping into really the divine feminine, then you cannot
you cannot hold men who are now growing into understanding

(01:27:37):
the responsibility of being expressed balanced, divine masculine to old
archetypes that you were that you nipples got hard for
and your click likes because you like that vision of
him that no longer serves him or you that has
been outdated. It's been an outdated version of how we

(01:27:58):
think we should be showing up. And so this is
why I say all men on the planet has been wounded.
Manhood has been wounded because we have not updated the
branding we have. There's a standard we've been following all men,
all ethnicities or traditions, and he has been outdated for himself,

(01:28:19):
for his family society so much. I mean, like, like
we've been saying earlier, how people say all the men
are being attacked toil or the men not being expressed
the men are doing the man is wounded. And then
so I'm saying I'm excited to hold space for men
to begin the rebranding process. And it may have been
fully expressed two or three generations from that. But I'm

(01:28:39):
excited to support our brothers because our men need support it.
I'm here to support brothers wherever they are without being perfect.
Come as you are for yourself. But I would challenge
my beloved sisters, as you continue to do your journey
and know who you are and shedding the old you
don't know to serve you. Don't shed your old, don't

(01:29:00):
shad old you that don't serve you, but hold me
to the old need to serve you. It makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
I totally agree with that, and I think that even
hearing that too, I have to, like question, I have
to fight something within me, which is like the woman
that wants to say, well, then do that shit for me,
you know. Okay, but with that, I'm saying fighting myself.
But then I said, okay, don't do that, and it's like, no,
this is the gift that this is how we can't

(01:29:26):
keep doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
Yeah, we can't keep doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
So it's like, hey, this is what the man is
telling you what we need in order to heal, so
that we can all come together. The compliment you know
what I mean, and so I feel like there is like.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
And you see the way I said it, It wasn't
a way to downplay. No, I'm and I'm saying the
best way because I'm seeing you. It's like like as
now imagine mine.

Speaker 3 (01:29:49):
Well, I'm thinking about the programming in me.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
I'm watching it happen in motion, and that is the
programming of defend, defend, or like are like, wait, but
you didn't do this for me, for me, you but
it's like yo, okay, okay, time out.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
Let's stop stop that, stop that so you see that?
See that? Right? So sisters, what's the process with that?
So no, let's just stop there that like that. That's
a lot of our sisters, right who feel that way.
And you know, even on the healing journey, they'd be
like they pop off right, like I think it's positive.

Speaker 3 (01:30:24):
Eventually you know thyself and you know that you don't
have to defend that. Oh you do that, so it
doesn't hit the same, right, there's nothing to defend. Okay, right, okay,
love it, you know. And then you say and even that,
even despite of what you just said, I'm still gonna
let you do your rebranding. I'm still gonna not let you,
but I'm going to like do it. I'm not going

(01:30:45):
to judge you for it, right, So I think that
that's I'm really you know, excited for that. That I'm
a woman on the sideline cheering men on, like Okay,
you want to do it, or we're here, we're doing this,
let's go for it, you.

Speaker 4 (01:30:57):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:30:57):
And like, I think more we need both of those
on both sides. But I think especially if the men
are going to really, if we really want them to
be heal, we have to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
Yes, absolutely, and that and that's and that's what I
would say to the humblest ways. It's like, it's it's
really a it's a call to the compliment. You know,
a woman goes, I'm doing this, that that that dad,
and I'm I'm really loving who she's becoming, right, So
it's only natural that you will attract a compliment in
life to that, to that gesture. That's all iously what

(01:31:30):
I'm saying. And so the more the sisters are excited
to support men, however, they are going to show up
as sacred compliments, right. That's that's who we really are
for each other anyway. You know what I'm saying like,
that's why I said earlier that whatever our issues are
with our parents, you know, on that inhill exhale, that's
how we got here. I mean, you know, and whenever

(01:31:51):
you feeling anxiety overwhelmed, sister or brother and you're feeling
like you can't be self expressed, take that, take that
because that's that's us.

Speaker 6 (01:32:02):
That, that's that's all of us.

Speaker 1 (01:32:04):
Well, that's one thing we all regtless of you from Haim,
from there, you're manny, I'm a woman. We all came
doing that breath.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
We did, we all came through.

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
And we're even talking in this beautiful podcast now with breath.
It's our this, this is our sacred bond with each other.
But how we use our breath, how we you know,
how we decide to use the flow of in each
other is what we we we have the responsibility to hold,
you know. And and I would say this, let me
say this because I have to say this. I would

(01:32:37):
to salute all the women who have been holding warriors
space for men. I've seen it in their relationships and
fighting for the best quality relationship, trusting in their men,
helping to invest in him in any way she can
to really see him win. And so even if he
was not strong enough to express it and say it.
And sisters, if you'll have had brothers had not done
that for my brothers, I'm gonna say to you all

(01:32:59):
and to all my sisters watching, you are appreciated. Tupac boys, right,
Tupac boys, you appreciated. You are appreciated. You appreciate it
because if that brother didn't get it, if he didn't
if he didn't understand the blessing he got when you
invested in him, that became a ritual to the to

(01:33:20):
the body of man spiritually, you know. And so I
saw collect right, because right, And so I would just
say to the sisters, don't give up on your superpower
called nurturing. It's such a glorious, beautiful gift. Don't just
because unfortunately my undeveloped lack of discipline, you know, created

(01:33:44):
an adverse outcome with us. Don't give up your superpower
because of some bitter things that I was undeveloped to facilitate.
And this is why I go right back to man
Hill myself, because we have to teach our brothers to
be better facilitators to the women they want to deal
with a lot of billas be calling in these powerful,
dynamic women and can't hold the facility. So we have

(01:34:07):
to teach our men the importance of creating sacred space
and why that's important. If you're gonna call into the
divine feminine, you have to be ready to host her
in all levels of your life. And if you're not
ready to host the gods, let the god is be
outside until you're ready to host her. Let let her,
let her go and let her glow and just admire

(01:34:28):
her afar. She is so or inspiring And.

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
You don't want, No, I don't want, I don't want
someone else can no but.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
Listen, but but but but whatever I'm saying, I'm saying,
but yeah, not even no, no, see now that I'm
glad you said that's this masculine or feminine cuffing is
not it's not what we need now. I'm not going
to say our journey, but right, it's not what's needed

(01:35:00):
from us now. We need to a woman needs to
be free, expressed and her autonomy instead of as a man,
and then together they figure out what that dancing cadences,
right right, right, but yeah, maybe maybe step three. But
then but now, now, you're talking about courtship. Courtship. We

(01:35:22):
forgot the the the divine attribute of courtship. Courtship says
I'm interested, you're interested. Let's slow it all the way
down and let's build on our interests. What happens with
dynamic souls that are attracted to each other is that
they start out in the concepts of courtship. The attractions,

(01:35:46):
the hormones or pheromones, start to accelerate, the abandon courtship
principles and get into title. Title is a heavy crown
for a man and a woman, a king or queen.
Where's a heavy crown? If you can't sustain court courtship

(01:36:08):
a king and queen in court, you see how I'm
going with this courtship. You would not be able to
survive as an exalted queen or king in union together,
I would tell y'all, pause titles, don't abandon them, but
pause the titling of each other. Create queen of four
talks about this and sake a woman seasons of development.

(01:36:32):
My mother would tell me, I listened a few times,
she told me, until I got my until I had
to listen like I didn't listen to. She says, you
try to her you love her all that didn't meet
her in every season, and when you complete eight season
with her right every four months, you're gonna meet her
in spring. Let's say we dated in spring. That said,
you know, this is the courtship, and now some as coming.

(01:36:54):
It's another type of her coming through, just like a name.
Some of these coming right and now and now when
to fall. Look, I may have dated you successfully in
the spring and summer, and I don't even know who
the hell you are by the time the fall with
the car right right right, So this is why, this
is why she's especially when I was younger, enjoyed courtship,

(01:37:17):
long courtships. I know your generations don't have the patience
for it. But she would tell me, she said, but
it's important that you developed to that if you don't
have the patience for it, because you would save yourself
a lot of trauma, tears, pain, wasted time and energy.
But she she was right. There was women that I
that I've met in the fall, and we rocked in
the fall, dope winter came, we was even more walked up.

(01:37:41):
Spring came. I didn't even know who this woman was, right,
It was a whole different, right, But but by that time,
by that time me and her already committed to titling.
So then now we moved into the ego of the relationships,
and we abandoned the cultivation. So now so now the

(01:38:01):
woman I'm that I'm entitled, are entitled? Meant the title
now comes the ego of that's my queen or that's
my king, right, And now we get so caught up
in that we abandoned. We talked about earlier the entity
called the union, you know, and the union thrives in courtship.
It thrives in taking time to appreciate the nuances of
someone's tone, their voice, you know, asking certain questions to

(01:38:23):
engage their consciousness. You know, a man learning how to
hold space for his women when she's going through some
emotional you know, up and down and whether hormones or
just through life. Right, these things that you can work
out in courtship. But when we don't have the cadence
or the or the the want, need or or temperament

(01:38:43):
to really just like nature does it, y'all. See it's this,
It's like, right, you know what happens in harberination. All
the animals they create their little foods in the falls
and dig down. By the time of what that comes,
they're hanging out for three or four months into the spring, right,
so they're moving into accordance to nature. We are no
longer in cords to nature. And now that's why we're
out of our nature. Our women are out of her

(01:39:04):
nature because she's abandoning who she knows her superpowers to
be because something he did. Right, So she's mad. She
don't even want to be her no more. She's she
sees abandoning her power because of his thing. And then
he feels powerless because he is he's not self, he's
not showing up to her in his full expressed self.
So I think if we can work those things out

(01:39:24):
and be patient with each other, you know, and and
and hold space for like like you said earlier, nobody's perfect,
like we're all we're all human, we're all in our
different levels of feelings and men event eventually opening up
in himself that you know. I think, this woman, I'm
gonna you know, what is beyond her. I'm gonna trust
that spirit is lending me to share. That's what I'm
trying to get. Mento, you're transcending just the ego of

(01:39:45):
talking to the woman you just spirit told you to
share and do the ministry in that moment with your heart,
you just let it be known that authentic sharing and
downloading that clarity that's gonna have a long and lasting
impact for you and her. Then you just answer around
what is she gonna think about me if I really
let her know that I'm intuitive too, Because I don't
want to tell that because then she may think I'm

(01:40:06):
either crazy or that's that's that's feminine. But I say
this to yo, I got you too, Goddesses here, Well,
then into what I'm gonna be like Peter from Family Guy,
what grinds my giars? Let me hear what I can't
stand now? I apologize with my my my. I'm gonna
do a little cursing, little language, not for people that
they want to. You know. I don't like that we

(01:40:28):
weaponize women in a weak way. That's the most anti
masculine thing we could do. Let me say this. I'm
gonna be a little hot pipe with this one. I
don't like when we identify someone to be weak, we
say you acting pussy. First of all, that's why we're

(01:40:53):
here because of pussy. So why would I associate weakness
what it takes me mother, all the muscles and her
being to work together to birth me as a whole
being on the planet. And I'm gonna have the nerve
to associate weakness with pussy. And that's all you niggas

(01:41:15):
is trying to get back up into its pussy, but
you associated with weakness. We gotta do better, brothers. We
have to stop. And this is why we don't want
to the feminine side of us. We think it's weak
because collectively we have demonized the feminine principle and that

(01:41:38):
goes back into the religious colonialization. We're taking women from God.
When man became only the exalted God, and women is
not no way to be seen. Then she's lesser than God,
she's godless. So when I say rebranding man, we have
a lot of again I read, I do not appreciate

(01:41:59):
and condone weaponizing weakness affiliated with women because you have
weak men and you have weak women. Okay, we're gonna
say it, let's make it holistic, but I really don't
like that because you know, as a hip hop as
an MC, you know, and from the from the culture,
I don't like that we we use that we use
pussy as a way to disrespect someone when that is

(01:42:20):
the portal gateway of our whole existence, and that's all
we trying to that's the gate where we're all trying
to be back into on one way or the other
right or facilitate another soul to come through. So we
really have to collectively, women have to say enough is that?
Enough is enough? Men we have to we have to
support the leaving that alone and find another way to

(01:42:41):
talk about what's weak because the pussy is nowhere weak, okay,
and associating that and and so that's that's when you're
gonna get a lot of the oh you're acting feminine, right,
you're gonna So there's a lot of negative things that
we look upon our women. And so when men start
to see women in more a positive light, right, not

(01:43:02):
saying that women don't have those attributes, right, they do,
just like men. We have those weak attributes, but we
start to see our women as opposite of weakness and
strength and power. We won't associate a disrespecting of the
man by calling him that. Listen, super and over you pussy.

Speaker 3 (01:43:20):
Absolutely, I'm pussy.

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
I'm the greatest pussy any motherfucking existence. Why are you
talking about what I'm hard. I'm the hard pussy. I'm
the juiciest pussy. I'm the fullest pussy our birth life.
My name is super Nova. I'm the brightest pussy in
the cosmos our birth. You niggas here my birth the

(01:43:44):
big bang. Ain't no star better than the super nova
I star bursts. I'm pussy. I create, I love be
juicy pussy. And you cannot enter this pussy. You see
how it worked out. You just gotta take the energy back, right.

Speaker 3 (01:44:04):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:44:04):
You know that? Wow?

Speaker 1 (01:44:05):
So look, look and I'm the pussy that's I'm and
I'm I'm a walking dick. I'm erected. Look at me
like a bald head. I'm walking around here. I'm always erected.
I'm the mighty dick. I'm the mighty erection. I'm the
greatest thick and pussy show that ever existed, the greatest

(01:44:27):
dick in the greatest pussy that I'm gonna lip. I'm
the great god dick, like the great Goddess play the
goddess click in the god dick come together and they
made me.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
Ex hell ah, wow, thank you, I mean honestly, well,
I'm so happy to have met you in person.

Speaker 3 (01:44:54):
Wow, this has been so this has been such a journey.
I feel like I've went on a d whole journey.

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
It's amazing. And you know what we didn't even acknowledge, Like,
are you you're married?

Speaker 1 (01:45:03):
Right? I was married.

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
I was married. Yeah, I'm divorced now okay, but you're
you're partnered. Yes, Yes, your partner and you're partner to
them like an amazing human. Yes, Layla Delia, Lelia Adelia.
So that makes sense that you would have such a
sacred partnership because it's light.

Speaker 3 (01:45:22):
Say, well, we pulled a card at the top of
the show, but before we get to the card, after
all that, I mean, that was a fucking affirmation.

Speaker 1 (01:45:31):
I don't I do I do I do have? I
do have. Uh. So there's something we say in the
manhild I Solf training to the brothers. Arranged for me,
the way arranged for me, the way. May I renew myself.
May I become strong, May I renew myself.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
May I become strong?

Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
Arranged for me, the way arranged for me, the way.
May I renew myself.

Speaker 2 (01:45:56):
May I become strong, May I renew myself, May I
become strong?

Speaker 1 (01:46:00):
And So that's what we are calling on for ourselves,
is that as we work on ourselves daily, that the
way will be made for us. And as we continue
to gather and to build and to cultivate, will become
strong world igourney, it will become renewed.

Speaker 3 (01:46:14):
I love that?

Speaker 2 (01:46:17):
Is it terot time? I think it is tterot tyme.

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
So you pulled Queen Queen of Sorts.

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
The Queen of Sorts combines the mental clarity and intellectual
power of the Suit of Sorts with the maturity and
receptiveness of the Queen. You have the gift of being
able to use your intellect and unbiased judgment while also
remaining flexible and open to receive input from the source
from other sources. As you lead from the head and

(01:46:45):
not the heart, you are better able to discern situations
without the influence of emotion or sentimentality. You may believe
that empathy or compassion towards others will distract you from
the task at hand. Instead, you prefer to know the how, what, why, where,
when and who of everything to help you make sense
of your environment and better understand others. It is not

(01:47:06):
that you cannot care about others, but you connect with
other people through an intellectual understanding rather than an emotional one.
The Queen the Swords notes that you are a truth seeker.
You're open to hearing the thoughts and opinions of others,
but ultimately you filter that information to decipher what is
true and what is not. When interacting with others, you
will not tolerate mistruths or excessive fluff. You prefer to

(01:47:27):
get to the heart of the matter without engaging in
too much chit chat. It suggests that you have an
innate ability to tell like it is. You're a quick
thinker and highly perceptive, piercing through the noise and confusion
to get straight to the point. There is no beating
around the bush. You're upfront and honest in your views,
and you expect the same from others. For this reason,

(01:47:48):
many people respect your opinion and come to you for
advice when they need clarity.

Speaker 1 (01:47:54):
Oh God, that's the Queen a sword the Queen, And
it's interesting again for those that are sensitive to curses
and animation. I restore my balance to you all, but
that is auspicious. Like you said earlier, that when you
pull the cards it relates, you know, Like I was
saying weaponizing the negative attributes of women, you know, and

(01:48:14):
the Queen of Swords, So you know, the more that
as men we heal and we own our space, brothers,
that our true divine, masculine, our authorship, our manhood is
exalted when we can support our women to be self
expressed to you know, and we don't have to weaponize
their negative attributes as their whole seals. You know, those

(01:48:35):
are art types that come through them, but that's not
who they are, just like our negative attributes or archetypes
that we have upheld but not really our true selves.
And my prayers that more men continue their journey of
healing and unlocking and caring that you can begin to
as you rebrand yourself, you can see the women in
a in a different light that that that can be

(01:48:57):
revealed to you as a reflection of the word that
you're doing for yourself. So that's what that card represents
to me as you're reading, and that I wanted to
really bring that home. We have to change the the
you know the spirit of looking at women women period
as being weak. The fact that I'm a protector does
not make her weak though, see like the lion king, right,

(01:49:20):
he's a protector of his being a lion with his family.
But the woman is fierce and ancient chemist. The one
of the attributes of the archetypes of the deity is
called sec Met is the daughter of Ra. She has
the head of the lion lioness sec Men. She's known
to be ferocious and very disciplined, oriented into martial arts

(01:49:43):
and into protection. So the you know, the lioness of
a woman. That's a powerful attribute, right. She doesn't need
to be on go right because her man is there,
a lion is there, but she's she's lock and loaded
and ready to ride a di She needs to write,
that's the the the environment, not that I am the

(01:50:05):
all the almighty powerful, and my woman is weaker, lesser
than me. And therefore when I want to weaponize weakness,
I use her portal door gateway of life that I
came through, and I lash it out on others to say,
don't be that, but you are that. We are all

(01:50:27):
and Pussy's at the same time, it's called mom, Dad,
the great mother, the great father, you see, and I
just took it through that one. And so the more
we become exploded, you know, learn who we are on
this journey and and give ourselves space to go through

(01:50:50):
the shadow, go through that place where we're not on point,
and also give our space to rise above you know,
our adversities. You know, we will begin to be so
more self expressed and so much confident, and that confidence
can inspire others to unlock. I look at us being
you know, heroes and sheroes, and of our lives and

(01:51:11):
our stories. You know, that's why we a lot of
us are joined to the Marl Marvel films. It's seeing
us in a different way because we're all showing up
as as in our own lives, as different ones with
superpowers and different gifts. You know that we have to
Some of us are scared of our gifts. Some of
us are very confident, right, some of us are. Uh,
started out good and then you know we got triggered.

(01:51:33):
Like the villain was somebody that had good things. Think
about the Joker story. They telling the Joker story. He
was he was you know, he loved his mom. He
was an introvert, he didn't mess with people. He was
kind of a quiet guy. He became a clown to
entertain people. Trauma life was happening. People were being mean,
to him, you know, and so all and that changed him,
That changed him into a whole nother being. Right, So

(01:51:53):
we can identify with that character, whether before or after. Right,
But we all have you know, we all had those
attributes of a superman or a wonder woman. Right, And
how gloriou is it when a wonder woman can own
her space as an Amazon guide is a superman can
own his spaces as a superman. And then they on
their journey they can find a way to fellowship and

(01:52:15):
work together to support others.

Speaker 2 (01:52:17):
That go, yeah, that's beautiful, and then change the world,
change over the world for the better.

Speaker 3 (01:52:25):
Come on, let's go, well, where can the where can
the world and our tribe find you? Can you tell
us where they can find and then where can they
share you? Also with their husbands and men listening.

Speaker 1 (01:52:36):
Brothers wherever you are, you know we have we hold
space for our brothers eighteen and older. We're working on
having a right of passions for the young men soon.
But eighteen and older sisters, if you have you know,
beautiful husbands and miniature dating and courting sisters, get the
brothers out to inboxes and out the comments and send
them to send them to our training. You know, we're
on Instagram at Bandheld Ourself program. You can you can

(01:53:00):
go on to the page and you can hear the
testimonials from brothers who have went to the rights of
passage and how they share their daily rituals, the meditations
they do, the affirmations they do to be the best
version of themselves. The book is available on Amazon. It's
called Manhial Thyself, The Weldness Warria Journey to Self Mastery
by Myself and co authored by my mother, Queen of Four,
myself and my cousin Hallelujah Walcott. We've partnered with the

(01:53:21):
Queen of Food Wellness Institute that hosts the Sacred Woman
Gathering that you all beautifully would be part of soon
and we we do we handle hold down the mail aspect.
So brothers, you can go to Queen fod dot com.
Now go to Queenford dot com, u q U E
E n A f u A Queen Ford dot com
and you can go to schools and the portals that

(01:53:42):
has the Man Held Thyself program. You can you can
sign up and join us for twelve weeks in twelve
weeks of miraculous support on yourself. Here journey and we
do it twice a year for the spring and for
the in the fall, and we hear the support and
I'm really honored to uh to be a guest and
to share the conversation with my sisters. I mean, we
had a couple of technical difficulties throughout we were navigating,

(01:54:03):
but I just love talking to my sisters. Like I
was just I forgot you the campus to come on.
I was just the conversations that we're having. I wish
that we were able to let y'all into some of
the other i'll call the pocket downloads that we were having.
But I'm just so thank you' all have for having
me so honored to be here with my sisters, and
I love the work that y'are doing and much much
continued breakthroughs and abundance to anything that y'all doing.

Speaker 3 (01:54:26):
Thank you or we definitely have to have you back on.
And I was also thinking, what a beautiful experience to
share with a partner in doing the Sacred Woman program
as well as yours at a lot of at the
same time to then come together.

Speaker 1 (01:54:42):
A lot of the sisters who have partners have done that,
you know, they have they have health there you know,
and that's what you know, Like I said, you know
in the positive, Like you know, when we look at
our women from from the attribute of being outfice being
leaders of their self care, right, I call you well
most well we used too, because you're you know women,
your fight for your children, your your fight to hold

(01:55:03):
down several hustles. You'll do what you gotta do to
get through, you know, so yellow warriors, right, and so
there will be There have been many women that have
when they sign up for second Women to do their
rights and passage, you know, to strengthen themselves. Maybe you
gotta sign up, they just go ahead, bring their husband
and their husband. All the husbands come in all like, yeah,
I'm listening. My name is Jonathan.

Speaker 4 (01:55:20):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:55:21):
They got that heaviness but once but it's no judgment.
But we it's like we're like we're like, uh, you know,
we're like the care bears to the brothers because because
we all because because we're all here for each other,
we all carry, we all care, we all men, were
all hard and tough, but we all here because we
know we've been hurting and we know we need we
need more for ourselves and our lives. You know, and
so it's a beautiful thing when when the couples go

(01:55:41):
through it, because she's going, you know, Queen of Four
has the sisters on a really disciplined regimen daily, but
brothers are on a s too, So the sisters that
says she'll be up at four o'clock in the morning
doing her spiritual all to work. Her husband will be
running his spiritual bath, doing his affirmation and prayers. So
it's it's we have a lot of great testimonials from
couples who who are doing their self here work together,

(01:56:04):
and my prayer is that becomes a standard, you know,
in our world. One day we have more and more
couples are excited about their rituals, about doing, about doing,
supporting their partners on the individual journey of healing, but
also supporting each other as they go through their whites
and bashes together.

Speaker 3 (01:56:20):
Yes, yes, that's beautiful. Well you guys, I hope you
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Speaker 2 (01:56:52):
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Speaker 3 (01:57:02):
So we'll see you guys next week.

Speaker 1 (01:57:03):
Love you that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:11):
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