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September 18, 2025 42 mins
In this inspiring episode, Minister Denise Walker explores the topic of "Discovering Purpose Through Serving Others in your Faith-Based Business" with special guest Dr. Jacquiline Cox. 

As a Christian entrepreneur, Jacquiline Cox shares how her journey of building a business became a deeper calling to serve others and glorify Christ through it. 

You'll hear powerful insights on what it means to live out your purpose and how serving people through your business can open doors to unexpected blessings in your life. As a Christian, whether you're just starting out or looking to realign your business with your faith, this conversation will encourage you to see it as more than revenue for you and your family—it's also ministry. 

Get ready to be equipped, inspired, and reminded that your greatest impact comes through your service to others. 
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Come on, let's lift up the name of Jesus Christ.
There is none other in heaven or on earth. Welcome
to another episode of Hope in Christ with Denise here
on Kingdom Influencers Broadcast, where we place our hope in
the only hope there is Christ, our Lord.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Welcome back to Hoping Christ with Denise here on Kingdom
Influences Broadcast. I am your host, Minister Denise, and I
welcome you all back to the show. Remember at Hoping Christ,
we are healthy, overcomers purpose and we maintain eternal perspective
as we put our faith in Hope in Christ Jesus.

(01:24):
So we are back with another episode of an awesome,
amazing entrepreneur and author that we're going to talk about.
And we're going to talk about discovering purpose through serving
others today. And so I'm going to open us up
with prayer before we begin, and then we're going to
be interviewing doctor Jacqueline Cox. Father, we thank you for

(01:47):
your word. We thank you God for this opportunity to
share your word to nations. God, we thank you Lord
for your guests. Your daughter, you're a woman of God. Lord,
we thank you that you are using her mightily and
you are going to continue to use her mightily. We
thank you for all that you're placed in us to do,
that we would bring hope to others, and that we

(02:09):
would continue to grow and go in the name of Jesus.
So God, we bless you, We give you glory and
honor in Jesus' name.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Amen and man and Amen.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
All right, So thank you, thank you, Thank you all again.
Good morning, good evening, and good afternoon. Wherever you are
in the world, thank you again for joining us. So
again we have doctor Jacqueline Cox joining us today to
talk to us about discovering purpose through serving others. And
so we're going to begin with asking doctor Cox to

(02:41):
share with us about herself. Tell us a little bit
more about you.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
First off, Denise, thank you for having me. It's special
when you can sit across from a sister in Christ
who not only knows your story but has walked alongside
you in some chapters. So who am I, doctor Jacqueline Cox?
But most folks know me as Listen, Linda, that's not
just a catchy phrase. It's my life's assignment because God

(03:09):
gave me a voice to tell stories not just for me,
but for others who are still finding the courage to speak.
I'm a seventeen time bestselling author, founder of Listening to publishing,
listening the magazine and listening to brand and marketing, our
host listen to the radio and podcast. And I'm humble
to currently Weather Crown as missus Illinois USA Ambassador twenty

(03:34):
twenty five. But beyond the titles, I'm a wife to
my amazing husband, Mama took five and the survivor of
a whole lot of storms, foster care, grief, chronic illness,
and learning how to parent children with unique needs. So
I carry all of that with me, not as baggage,
but as fuel because everything I've been through has prepared

(03:56):
me for the seat I'm sitting in right now. And
that's a little bit about me. Aymn.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
So thank you, doctor Jacqueline for telling us about yourself.
So we're gonna jump right into the questions. Can you
share a little bit about your journey into entrepreneurship and
how your faith influenced that path?

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Great question. Entrepreneurship for me was never about chasing money.
It was about survival and obedience, right, So I started
out writing as a way to heal I was facing
a lot of health battles. When I was figuring out
single motherhood, writing kind of became my therapy, right, But

(04:46):
then God whispered, this is more than journalist, this is ministry.
And I had to pause because I didn't see myself
as an entrepreneur at the time. But my faith made
the difference because I didn't have him, I didn't have
a roadmap. I didn't even have a team in the beginning,
you know, besides my husband of course, right like, I

(05:07):
didn't have like a team. But what I had was
God's instruction and my yes. He told me, he said, daughter,
stop begging for a seat at tables that was never
built for. You, build your own. So at that point,
listen Linda was Listen Linda was born. Then came the magazine,
then came the radio show. And now when people look

(05:31):
at me and they asked, how do you do all that?
I can honestly say it was not me. It was
literally my faith that lit the path when I could
not see my next step. And then now you have
listened Linda Publishing. So it's like a lot of times
we we we run away from what God tells us

(05:53):
to do because we don't we don't see what he
sees in us. But the moment we stopped and we
we breathe and we give God the will, everything just
flows from there.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Amen. Amen, Amen. And we know that we have so
much in common as far as like you said, build
your own table when people want to invite you. I
know both of us deal with overcoming certain traumas and
different things, and so sometimes people don't want to talk
about that, but God has called us to help people
to overcome those things. The next question is what does

(06:32):
purpose mean to you as a Christian entrepreneur.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Purpose to me is alignment. It's when your natural gifts
line up with God's supernatural assignment. So passion is what
excites you, right, but purpose is what sustains you when
they excite and fades and all you have left is
the promise that God gave you a Christian entrepreneur, purpose

(07:02):
means I'm not hustling just to be a wealth. I
can't even stand a word hustle, right, I'm not hustling
just to be a wealth. I'm stewarding my gifts to
build legacy. So purpose to me is why I help
others to tell their stories even when it's hard, because

(07:22):
I know that testimony is a tool for somebody else's freedom.
So my purpose is not about me. It's about the
people attached to my obedience. And that's what weighs me
up every morning, is that purpose.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
I like the way you said the people that's attached
to our obedience. A lot of people don't understand that
we have to obey God, even when we are afraid.
We have to obey God. We got to do it
afraid because there is somebody attached to what He has
called us to do, and if we don't do it,
he will choose somebody else to do it. But he

(08:00):
don't get it done. Oh yes, well we have to
make sure that we do it, even if we got
to do it afraid.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
I'm trying to tell you because when the Saints go
Martini and I want to be in that number hunting.
I'm gonna do whatever you can tell me to do. Man,
I know that's right.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Our next question is how do you see serving others
as central to running a faith based business?

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Now, when when I see this, when I hear this question,
I'm like service. Service is really at the heart of
everything I do. My business is ministry and disguise. Right
when someone comes to me with just their manuscript, It's
not just words to me, it's their soul on paper.

(08:49):
And I don't take that lightly. I see myself as
kind of like a midwife, helping them birth what God
placed inside of them. Right, and here's the truth. Servant
keeps me humble. It reminds me that work isn't about me.
It's about the people that God called me to serve.

(09:09):
That's why I show up even when I'm tired, why
I pray over the projects I take on, and why
I won't compromise my integrity for profits because serving others
that's not optional. It's the heartbeat of a faith based business.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Right absolutely, absolutely, it is keeping us humble and so
that we're not It's not about us, because, especially as believers,
it has to be about the people that God has
sent us to and about sending them and focusing them

(09:47):
on Christ so that they can then go help somebody
else in addition to what we have done to help them.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Absolutely, and then number the.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Next question is was there a define in the moment
when you realize your business was more than profit it
was a ministry?

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Oh? Absolutely, absolutely. The moment came when mountains on right
Mountains came Rise Without Earthquakes hit number one on Amazon
and it stayed there for ninety one days. Right at first,
I was like, okay, God, like this is big, right,
But then he reminded me, no, no, no, no, no

(10:27):
no no, My daughter ninety one is not just a number.
That was Psalms ninety one the secret place. It was
showing me this is my doing, this is my promise
at work. See, people were buying the book, but what
they were really connecting to was the God behind the story.
I started receiving testimonies from readers everywhere that, like from

(10:52):
different countries and everything, saying they found healing, they found courage,
and they found salvation after reading my words. And that's
when it it clicked to me like this wasn't about sales,
this was about souls. The moment that happened, it shifted
everything from me. So I didn't go in anymore writing

(11:14):
thinking because you know, when you first come into writing,
you're thinking, oh, I'm gonna be this big writer. I'm
gonna go to this big publishing company. I'm gonna start
off small, but I'm gonna try to pitch it to
these big publishing companies and I'm gonna get that big check.
But I could have. I could have pitched mountains, you know,
to a big company. I could have, But the Lord

(11:36):
say no, no, no, no, no no. You don't want
to put you know, this into a mainstream thing. You
want to touch the people it's supposed to touch, and you
don't want to give people control of what I called
you to do, because the moment you stepped out of
that realm, then you got somebody else pulling the streams behind. You.
Cannot be who God really called you to be because

(11:56):
there's too many people holding on to the reins. Kind
of like God write gospel music. You've got some indie
gospel artists, but then you've got those mainstream ones who
they have to wear certain clothes and attend certain events
that does not align with God's vision for them. And
now you see a lot of things happening to them

(12:16):
in that industry and it's spiraling out of control. That's
because they're not really doing what God called them to do.
The ones that are, you can tell. They're happy, they're healthy,
they're doing things and the buying order. But the ones
that are not you can also tell too. So I
just try to keep everything aligned according to what God

(12:39):
told me, starting from mountains and then moving forward.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Thank you for sharing that. I like where you said
not about sales, because I think oftentimes, even as believers,
we get caught up in you know, God allows us
to heal, take us from faith what it's called faith
to faith and glory to glory, but we have to
keep the focus on Him. And I like the way
you said that Cere. Yes, He's gonna let our light shine.

(13:09):
He's gonna let people see it. And I remember one
of my favorite authors. She's a traditional author, but she said,
if only one person reads what she wrote, then she's
done what God told her to do. And I always
remember that. Pat Simmons said that, Yes, it's so amazing too.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah. She was on my show the other probably a
few weeks ago, and we were discussing something similar to it,
and she said, if only one person read my book,
then I know that I'm doing what God called me
to do if it just saved one person. And that's
what it's really about, you know me. And I'm gonna

(13:54):
tell you a secret about me. Everything that I've ever
written has hit number one right, and I think I
put all glory to God, And I think the reason
why God hasn't happened that way for me, truly, Denise,
is because God want God want people to read what
I write. And a lot of times people know you

(14:14):
got something and they won't read it until it's popular.
Do you do what I'm saying? So I feel like, okay,
the same way, like like with like what we were
talking about, like Semos right when it was unpopular, nobody
was really paying attention to it, but now that it's popular,
everybody wants right. So it's like I think God keeps

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certain people in a certain light because they really got
a story to tell. And a lot of times that
gets you know, sweat under the bridge because it may
not be popular, you know, like they say they don't
want to jump on the boat unto the wave hit,
if that makes sense. So I thank God for all

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of it and a lot of times, to be honest
with you, even with the best seller that don't always
mean you got one hundred or two hundred sells. You
can have seven seals in here best self, you know.
So it's about what God got planned for your life,
you know what I'm saying. So I try to take that,
like I said, yes, absolutely, It's not about sales. It's

(15:18):
about the souls. It's about people that buy the book,
the people that read the book, and what change that
is going to make for them in their life. So
that moment, truly is what's shifted every single thing for me.
With what I do, excuse me, with what I do?

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Amen? Amen. And then the next question that I have
for you is how do you balance the demands of business?
Now that's a big question, So I'm gonna get you
read it to.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Breathe, girl. Balance is tricky. We were talking about this
earlier too. Balance is super tricky. But I always tell people, right,
balance doesn't mean everything is equal. It means everything is prioritized. Right.
So my first ministry is at home with my husband

(16:05):
and my kids. If I'm running a successful business but
losing my family, I failed, Okay, So I set boundaries.
I honor my know as much as my yes. I
put my family's needs on my calendar first, and then
I build business around that. And of course I lean

(16:26):
heavily on prayer. I pray over my time, my energy,
my contracts because I know I can't do it all,
and truthfully I don't want to. But balance for me
is peace, because if it steals my peace, that is
not from God, because God is not the author of confusion.
So I just make sure to like I said, I prioritize.

(16:51):
I prioritize for my peace. And that's how I maintained boundaries.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Amen, because I know when you said about prioritizing your piece.
Some everybody's not for us to be even connected in business.
Everybody's not for us to help with their writing, whatever
it is. And so we have to pray. We have
to ask God, Okay, Lord, is this person for me?
Are they to work with me? Or there for somebody else?

(17:20):
Because sometimes that person that you think is coming along
they may be bringing chaos. And so you have to say, okay, Lord,
this person, you know, I need to let this person know. No,
this is not gonna work for me. You may want
to try somebody else.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
I will tell your story not even two weeks ago.
Now you know, my son, he go to a private school,
the top, one of the top schools in my state. Right,
very expensive, almost two thousand dollars tuish in a month. Okay,
it's not cheap. And that's not even including lunch. Okay,
the lunch. They are the mate, lunch is the sixteen

(18:00):
dollars a day girl pray funny. But I had this
client to come on for brand and marketing and to
help with her anthology. So she wanted all of that.
So you're talking almost a ten thousand dollars contract, right,
the seven ninety nine for the you know, seven thousand,
nine ninety nine for the publishing the anthology along with

(18:21):
all the things that come with my anthology. And you
know a lot of things come with mind. Right, were
talking book trailers, talk to chapter trailers, we talked and
billboard drop. We talking bestseller, you know, to capture the
best seller, all everything that comes along with my anthologies.
Right on top of publisher thirty women with her. So
I'm thinking, this is great, right, this is awesome. I

(18:44):
got this big contract, no problem. I'll be able to
pay his switch for the next five months. I should
be good to go. When I say, as soon as
the contract went through, as soon as the invoice cleared
in my account, I get started treated like trash. Do
you hear me? The emails started getting nasty, the way

(19:09):
she was talking to me, as if she was talking
to like one of her kids, you know. And I
prayed on it. And you know, like with PayPal for
those who don't know, PayPal will take a percentage of
what you get, so when you when you transferring that money,
you're not gonna get the exact thing that come into
you account. That's when anything was square with anything, right,

(19:31):
you use those third party apps. And so I told
my husband, I said, I got this contract, but I'm
gonna need you to front me something because I need
to refund her every single dime that she gave me, right,
and I did ten thousand dollars, I was. I was
out a little over one thousand dollars giving her her

(19:52):
money back to these And I'm gonna tell you why
all money is not good money to me. I don't
care what dollar sign you come with at this point,
in this stage in my in my career, because that's
exactly what it is. I stopped moving and me and
her had a consultation before. You know, but you don't don't.
You don't see behind that master these until that person

(20:16):
reveals themselves.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Right.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
So a lot of times people will think, oh, this
is a blessing, but sometimes what's a blessing will end
up being a lesson, you know, because if you move
strictly off the dollar, sounding off money. The devil can
trick you, okay, And he didn't have me because once
I saw the red flag, Once that red flag was up,

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I was like, Deuce is I'm out. I don't even
want it, you know. And she tried to apologize. And
I understand people have bad days, but my thing is
is that if this is how you coming in and
this is only a bad day, I don't want to
see you when you're mad. I'm good. I'm good. I
got too much other stuff going on that may not
be there for me. But God say, whatever they will

(21:00):
take from you, he'll send back to you tenfold, so
one hundred folk. So I know the promise that God
got from me, and I'm content with that. I will.
And this is a letting everybody know who listening to this.
I love people, I love strong, I love hard. I
will help you do whatever it is you need to do.
But if you're coming with chaos or confusion, I will

(21:22):
say no, and I will be okay if you go
with somebody else. I just like you said, everybody is
just not for everybody, and I'm okay with that. I'm
not for everybody. Denise you may not be for everybody, right,
but our audience, our people are are here. You know
what I'm saying. It's somebody out there for everybody. I
just was. I just was not the person for And

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I'm okay, amen. Amen.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
I always say no, it's a complete sentence. Yes, it
took me a while to you know, get to that place.
But like you said, peace, I mean God say he'll
give us peace. That's asks all understanding. That means that
everything around us shouldn't be bringing chaos. Things around us
shouldn't be bringing chaos because he brings our piece to

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us and so he's not gonna bring that. And like
you said, don't just look at the dollar. And I've
been in situations like that with editing and I just say, lord, no,
this is.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Not gonna You're not gonna work. It's not all the time.
The first time might have gave somebody money back like
thank you, but no thank you. Uh.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
And we kind of talked about the challenges that you
faced overall as a faith based business and how you
overcame those things. Do you want to add anything to
that question? So the question is what challenges have you
faced overall as a faith based business?

Speaker 3 (22:47):
How did you overcome absolutely, absolutely denise the challenges They
have been real, right. One of the biggest ones, even
the one we just talked wasn't even biggest one, but
the biggest one. One of them has been people not
valuing what I do, assuming because I'm faith based, I

(23:08):
should just give things away for free or for cheap, right.
But I had to learn that, yes, this is a ministry, right,
but it's also marketplace. God called me to steward this
vision well, and that means honoring the value that He
placed in me. Another challenge that I know, I've spoken

(23:28):
with you a lot about people trying to copy my
ideas and even infiltrate my groups just to steal my
intellectual property. That used to frustrate Ooh, they used to
frustrate me so bad because I've watched folks sit close
to me, take notes and then run off trying to
recreate what God gave me. I'll give you an example.

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I once had someone join one of my private groups
right and later they said, oh, you know what, after
they paid their money, after they went through the whole
process of doing an anthology, right right before the anthology
come out, they pulled their chapter okay, and say, don't

(24:09):
worry about it. The money was very low anyway, right,
don't worry about it. It's okay, I'll forfeit the money.
And then later I saw them trying to duplicate the
exact same concept down to the word right. At first,
it hurt me, right because you know me. You've been
in a couple of things with me, you know, like
how I go for my co authors and how I'm

(24:33):
very passionate about helping y'all to expand y'all brands and
stuff like that, and I did a lot of stuff
with her, so it hurts. But then God reminded me
what he gave me cannot be duplicated. It was tailor
made for jackline, and I've lived long enough to see
it play out. Every time someone tries to copy it

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either doesn't prosper or if it takes off, it fizzles
fast because it wasn't gifted to them. They may try
to wear the coat, but it won't fit, you know.
And God told me, don't dwell on them, don't waste
your energy watching the counterfeits. Keep building what I gave you.
And that shifted me. Now, instead of getting frustrated, I

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see it as confirmation because if people feel the need
to copy, that means I'm carrying something powerful, and I
remind myself daily no man can claim what God has
stamped with his approval. So I've overcome these challenges by
leaning on prayer, setting boundaries, using wisdom, using discernments, and

(25:38):
focusing forward right because if i keep turning around, then
I'm distracted from God's calling and his promise for my life.
Because at the end of the day, I'm not in competition.
I'm in purpose and purpose that don't need permission to shine.
You know you gonna shine regardless because the calling it's
on your life. So that's how I overcame it.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Amen. I always say they can't duplicate the annoying because
when God called you to do it, He's going to
see you through it because He put it in your hands.
And a lot of times I've seen that in the
ministry marketplace, where you know, people will try to duplicate
what others are doing. I've had situations, but and God

(26:23):
will always the same thing, remind me, I gave it
to you. And so even though some of what we do,
like for example, a lot of us do independent publishing
or independent helping authors to publish their books through editing
or whatever it is. And so God said, but the
anointing that I put on you is different from the

(26:46):
annointing I put on the other person who I've called
as well. So I think, like you said, one of
the things I do is keep tunnel vision and I
focus in on what God has called me, because I
call it distractions because sometimes that you send things to
distract you mhm.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
And I know even sending it to me because I
had this person blocked, I ain't even understand how I
was seeing what they was doing on my timeline when
I know this person, how am I seeing this stuff?
You know? And then I go and you know how
like you go through your stories and you see who
watching your stories, and this person is watching my stories.

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I'm like, wow, how this person is blocked? This person
is blocked. I don't looked on the block list yet
it's still there. But you know, people will, they will
literally go denise and make other pages like it's bad,
it's bad, like it's bad. But at the end of
the day, I said, like I say, I have you

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and you know this, the fact I got so much
going on and this one woman show over Hill is
just me and God doing all this stuff by ourself.
My my focus is no long on deck, and I
just take it as well. If you copying me, I
must be doing something right, you know. I must. I
must be. I must have something super powerful because you're
gonna copy nothing weak.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Amen. Amen, Amen. And then the next question is how
would you encourage other Christian entrepreneurs who may feel stuck
or unsure about their God given purpose?

Speaker 3 (28:27):
How would I encourage them? I will tell them this.
Don't wait for clarity to move. Clarity comes into doing.
Stop sitting on your hands waiting for God to write
it in the sky. He already placed something in your spirit.
Start with us in your hand. If all you have
is a pen, start writing. If all you have is

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a voice, start speaking. If all you have is a
heart to serve, then serve. And please stop comparing your
journey to someone else's heighlight reel, because they're not gonna
show you what it took and the and the mountains
and that it took for them to climb to get
to where they are. I don't do it either. I
only show the highlight of it. You don't see the

(29:11):
struggle in the and the and and everything that I'm
doing behind the scenes to get to where I am.
You know, you just see the Glorian So stop comparing
your struggle to somebody else's highlight reel. Your obedience does
not have to look like everybody else's. Remember, obedience will
take you places that hustle never could. Okay, you stay obedient.

(29:37):
Don't hustle because when you hustle, that sounds like a gimmick,
that sounds like a con that sounds like a scam. Right, hustle,
I don't like that word. Don't hustle anything that Already
you moving too fast, and you moving without clarity, and
you're moving without the will of God. When you say
you hustling, no obedience, be obedient to your call and
be obedient to your ministry, and just try God enough

(30:02):
to start doing it. That would be my advice.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Love it, love it, love it. And as you were talking,
it's an old soone that came to my mind. You
don't know my story, all the things I've been through,
so people like you said you can't compare. And I
know I posted the other day that as believers, we're
on the same team. We may be playing the same positions,
but the Annaughton is different and the Grace is different.

(30:28):
And so when we're comparing them looking at each other,
we not focused on what God told us to do.
And so it's so true that and then the story,
the what you've been through to get to that place
looks different from each one of us, and so we
don't we shouldn't be looking at, like you said, the

(30:49):
little highlight that somebody may post on social media. They
don't know how hard it was and everything you've invested
and all the things that we've done to.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
The losses your take right, they don't see my bank
account at negative one for you know, they don't see
they don't see I need a pepsi and I'm looking
at my person that ain't even fifty eight since the bamnyone.
You know, they don't see those days, you know, because
I don't broadcast that. You know, I broadcast my blessings,

(31:24):
but if you see everything that I went through to
get them, you probably would think twice about, like, if
that what you want to try to copy doing? Because
I run a whole magazine, I run a whole publishing company.
I run a radio show and a podcast and a
plethora of other things right, and I'm doing it all,

(31:44):
but you don't see the burnout. You just see me
keep going. That's called oil, that's called favor.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Right.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
If you don't possess that trying to copy me or
look back and compare yourself to what I do and say, oh,
I'm gonna try that to I'm gonna try that too.
I'm telling you you will burn out quick if it's
not what God called you to do. I've seen it happen.
I seen people trying, Oh, let me, I'm gonna do
it that. I'm gonna do everything she do and then
be tired that month too. I'd have people come to

(32:14):
me like, girl, I tried to do that. Girl, you
are crazy? How you do that? Like, yeah, it's a lot,
but I believe like when you wake up every day, Denise,
and you love what you do and you got people.
Had a girl on my live yesterday. I was promoting
something right, and I had a girl come on my
live yesterday. That was I actually when it spoke to

(32:34):
a couple of years ago at the transitional living facility
that I lived in as a team right. She was
in the same foster care system that I was in
the same group home and everything. And I went there
and I because I would do a yearly sum and
an annual summit, and so I went and I did
the summit, and me and her connected. I connected with

(32:57):
all the girls there. Actually they all added me, you know,
And that's why you got to be a good person
and just do have good content on your pages and
stuff like that, because they all found me on social
media and me, you know, and I knew that I
didn't have anything inappropriate, so I allowed them. It was nothing.
And I was talking with this girl and I called
her my little sister, and I was talking with her,

(33:17):
and she hadn't finished high school. She was nineteen years old.
She was stripping and doing all this, and they were
judging her. The adults were judging her in the group
home and saying she's gonna be a problem, she's gonna
end up dead. All this stuff, just giving her the
wrong word of advice. You don't tell a kid that
gonna end up dead, Like, it's just certain things you
just don't do and you don't let speak out your mouth.

(33:38):
So I was speaking positively with her. I was trying to,
you know, get her into different programs at Malcolm X
college and stuff like that, and then we lost touch,
but I was never mean to her or anything like that.
Well she came back and she I've been trying to
get in contact with you. She told me that she
finished high school and she was in college. And I
broke in tears right in the middle of my promotion

(34:00):
because and that's what called me into going into preaching,
right because it was like, wow, Like this is why
I say, never give up on people, Never give up
on yourself, and don't listen to what these seasoned saints,
these retired sinners, you know, these certified saints have to
say about how you live your life. Because you know,
we just had our president and I'm not gonna go

(34:22):
in too much of that, but get on the TV
and say, the black kids were born to be criminals,
you know, and if we allow our children to hear
that and to have that indoctrine into their minds, you know,
that can ruin the nation. And so I do what
I do because of that, you know what I'm saying
to make sure that we don't have that happen. You

(34:46):
know what I'm saying. I try to breathe life into people.
If I know I'm at stage ten and somebody is
at stage two instead of me turning my nose up
at stage two, I'm gonna remember, Denise, tell me if
I'm wrong. I'm gonna remember where I was when I
was at stage two, and I'm gonna be the person
that I needed for me when I was at stage two.

(35:06):
I'm not gonna turn around to give church or to
this person and have them feeling down or make them
feel less than because they are not in there in
their walk where I am now. I'm gonna turn around
and I'm gonna lend my hand out and I'm gonna give
them guidance and step by step on how they can
make it to stage ten. And if they don't want
my help, then that's okay. But I'm not gonna judge

(35:27):
them because it was a time that I was at
stage two, or somebody I knew in love was at
stage two. Do you understand what I'm saying, Denise?

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Amen? Amen, I agree. I agree, And every time I
think about it, I'm glad you said that, because every
time I hear people use the word I think the
word Christian is used so loosely because the words of Christ,
Jesus said, everybody who caused me, Lord, are not going

(35:56):
to inherit the kingdom of heaven, because he says, they're
going to say in the day when we stand in
front of him, you know where like who did I mistreat?
Who did I not go see about? Who did I
hes gonna say it? You know, he said when were you?
When was that you? And he said, what you did

(36:17):
to the least, you did it to me. And so
he's going to say depart from me, or he's going
to say well done. And so a lot of times
people used to you know, they'll say Christian, and even
even in leadership and all over the world, people are
saying they're Christians, but there's no fruit. And so he said,

(36:37):
they will know you by the fruit that you bear.
And a lot of times people don't. And I always say,
because now I'll tell people listen, I say I'm a
christ follower because Christian is you so loosely and people
will One day I was in my I'm just doing something.
I was in the bathroom, and the Lord said, they

(37:00):
can see everybody else's sin, but they can't see their
own pride in their heart. And so he was talking
about things in leadership and things and what people are
and I said, wow. He said, they just don't They
don't realize that they are sinners too, and they're walking
in the spirit of pride. And so I'm glad you

(37:21):
mentioned that because our kids do need to know I
work with I call them at Promised Kids. A lot
of times people will say they don't deal with middle
school children or the children the kind of kids that
I teach, because they can't see their own sin. These
children have great purpose, and so we have to make
sure that we continue to minister to them the way

(37:43):
Christ sees them and not the way the world, the
religious Pharisees see these children. So and then we have
a couple more questions looking ahead. How do you hope
your business continue is to impact lives and point people
to Christ.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
I see Listen Linda continuing to grow as a lighthouse
for voices the world might otherwise ignore. Right, I want
to keep publishing underprivileged children, spotlighting indie authors, creating devotionals,
and hosting summons where people feel seen and celebrated. But

(38:25):
bigger than that, I want everything tied to my name
to point back to Christ. When people read my books,
I want them to see Jesus when they attend my
boot camps, I want them to feel His presence there.
When they hear my voice on the radio, I want
them to be reminded that God still calls ordinary people
just like me to do extraordinary things. And that's that's

(38:50):
the legacy that I'm after. That's what I want people
to remember me by.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Amen. Amen. And then and the last question is how
can listeners connect with you by your products? Book you
for certain things? Let them know.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Okay, so the easiest way is my website, and that's
www dot listening to presents one dot com. That's the
home base for everything, publishing my books, listening to magazine
and upcoming events. I'm also active, very very active on
Facebook under Jacqueline Cox. That's the j A C q
U I L I N E c o X my

(39:35):
Instagram at Spiritual Sunbeam twenty twenty. And of course you
can tune into listening to radio and podcasts on iHeart, Spotify,
Apple Podcasts anywhere there's a podcast being played. I am there, Pandora,
Serious XM everywhere. So and let me say this, don't
just follow me if you've been sitting on the story.

(39:58):
If you know God called you to write, to speak,
to build, connect with me, because I'd love to help
you birth what's inside of you. Because listen, Linda, it's
not just my friend, it's a movement. And there's room
at this table for you too. That's all I got.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Amen. Amen, thank you Jacquelin for joining us. I'm going
to pray us out. Father, we thank you, Lord, God
for your daughter. We thank you Lord for all that
you have placed in her. We thank you Lord that
you would just everything that she's put out, that you
would pour back into her, you would fill her cook
God in the name of Jesus, that you would strengthen

(40:39):
her in the areas you need strengthen. We pray. We
thank you for your gifts, your talents that you've graced
her in this season. God, we pray for those that
lives that she touches, that you would continue to touch
her and keep her as she goes forward. Oh God,
we thank you for everyone who's listening. Pray that they

(41:00):
would come and move in purpose and develop their own
faith based businesses and distribute hope to the world. And
so God, we bless you. We give you, going in
honor in Jesus' name.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
A man a man and a man. Thank you so
much for having me Denis.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
You're welcome and so thank you all for listening. We
pray that you will connect with doctor Jacqueline Cox and
please feel free to reach out to either one of
us if you have any questions. And have a phenomenal
rest of your week. Thank you for tuning in. You

(41:46):
have been listening to Hoping Christ with Denise here on
Kingdom Influences Broadcast. Remember at Hope in Christ, we are healthy,
we are overcomers, we have purpose by the True and
Living God, and we must maintain an eternal perspective as
we seek wholeness and our true identity in Christ Jesus
our Lord. Please follow Hope in Christ with Denise on

(42:07):
Facebook and Instagram. Also check out my TikTok at dm
Walker Hope and if you would like to purchase any
of my resources or books, please visit Amazon, Barzanoble, Books,
a Million and more. Thank you for tuning in once
again to Hope in Christ with Denise. Remember to place
your hope and the only hope there is Christ our

(42:29):
Lord
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