June 5, 2025 • 57 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 1 (00:38):
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
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fact dot net show to us that you're listening and
part of the Life Fact family.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
My name is Rick Thatcher.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I am pleased his punch to be joined by Patrick O'Rourke,
stand up comic extraordinaire and lifelong friend, and Tony Lebit
Tony Lebate of Equal First Aid. Welcome to the show,
Welcome to the arena.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Thank you so much. Thank you both for having me.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
What I mean, you've been on before, but to bring
people across the country, of course. We're in La San Diego, Houston, Dallas, Orlando, Allentown, PA,
and New York City New to the man in the arena.
Want to you do? Tell us Tony Lebate's EFA story.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Okay, we'll start from the beginning. So ef A Equal
First Aid was founded four years ago, and we want
to bring awareness for the immediate need for airway clearance
devices to protect people, all people, but especially those with
disabilities from choking tragedies. So when Equal First Aid was formed,
(01:47):
we were met with a New Jersey mom and legislation
in New Jersey that would allow airway clearance devices to
be placed in all schools. So from there, Equal First
Aid snowballed and we now have eleven star with legislation
eleven states twelve bills because Mississippi had the two bills,
but they will be reintroduced, so we have eleven states.
(02:09):
In the short four years and just the past couple days,
things have been just exploding.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Big things happening in Texas. Do you want to like
not jinx it? Is that it about Texas?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
So no, I don't want to Yeah, I don't want
to jinx it. There is no celebrating until until it's
time to celebrate. That's the way I believe that would
be the signing, the signing of yes, yeah at any point.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
We talked earlier about covering topics that we necessarily might
not want to delve into, Like delving is a something
we like to do. But if we're not to delve,
you just stop, drop and roll or throw something sharp
at myself.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Or pat Now to delve or not to delve? Yes,
that's the question.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah, So you're listening to the man in the raada.
You're listening Tony little bit equal first date, we're talking
about Texas. How much can we share about the process
passes the House, passes the Senate a bill that would
make it mandatory the whole state.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
This is not a small state, big state, everything's big.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Don't mess with Clarence devices in every school.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
And I would say, don't mess with Tony Lebate the
vehicle first aying for God's sakes, Well.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I have a great support system. I have wonderful families
that we all work together. So I'm honored to do
this along with the families. So yes, this is our
first state that has House and Senate and it is
on the governor's desk as of Monday at eleven thirty
five am.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Well, so, it's imminent, we'll say so hopefully.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah, there's three things that can happen. He can sign
the bill, put it into law, he can veto the bill,
and he can do nothing. If he does nothing, it
becomes a law. So we will know by June twenty second.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, it seems crazy as and I guess anything's possible
in this world, as we've learned a little bit before COVID,
during COVID and since. But you have to think that
given the nature of the political climate, things moving in
the right direction. Now we wor you work on the
state level. We also talked last week about going down
(04:11):
and fighting the word kind of uh, stirring the pot
on a national level. We went down and met with
the VA. But this whole thing, I just think the
momentum with FDA attention, with the VA attention, I think
that things and certainly with e f A and the
Texas States and now eleven states. I think when we started,
(04:33):
when I started with Life fact you were in seven
and I thought that was monumental because EFA remind me
the staff is not as vast as people might think.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Right, it's time it's time to up it a little bit,
especially after this past week. So it's you, It's it
is I. Yes, and I have I have directors, but
but you are your own boss. I am, and I
do have directors that are on there. Not for profit
has to have their directors, but and there're one wonderful
but they have full time jobs also, so you know,
(05:04):
we we do what we can, you know, as a
as a not for profit organization. And I'm very very
proud to say that. As things are, I think they're
just starting to blow up. So unfortunately, there was a
choking tragedy that just came to light in Maryland and
it was in twenty nineteen, and I reached out to
(05:27):
the reporter and I find it best on social media.
They got right back, he got right back to me
and within I think that was like May seventeenth, and
right then and there we set up a call and
they did an interview with Equal First Aid and that
was yesterday. I got a phone call today from a
(05:47):
representative's office that asked that they would like to do
a bill.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
So Maryland, Maryland, based on a case from twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, so a student special needs?
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Is that the correct he did?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Well, not really special needs, but yes, but he had pica.
So pica is where they put all different types of
objects in their mouth. So this happened to be a
rubber glove. Wow, And there was nobody there to save him,
and he choked on a glove. He was seventeen years old.
So that story just came out now because of lawsuits,
(06:20):
et cetera. You know, the families are allowed to speak now.
So that just happened in May, and we had an
interview yesterday and today I'm contacted that they want legislation
now in Maryland.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Unbelievable, So this will be twelve or is that included
in that?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
It'll be twelve? But also today I spoke with Shane
and I know that they're doing great things this week
with Arthur Lee. So we're also going to hit Florida.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
So your reference to Arthur Lee, who couldn't be with
us tonight CEO and Ventorre Life Facult working with Shane
Foresman in the great state of Florida. So Florida was
not included in that eleven because they're doing incredible.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
They're doing incredible things, but it's a matter of getting
the legislator in there. It's a matter of getting the bill,
So I will be sending them a bill to reference to,
and I'll be also sending it into Maryland.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
So other cities. Of course, we mentioned that they outset Texas.
Big news in Texas, so those listening in Dallas and
Houston could be great news in the very near future.
Life fact coming to a school near you. Mandatory. What
about California and other areas? So we're in New York.
My Man in the Arena is broadcast in New York, La,
(07:27):
San Diego.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So California is anything going on?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
So nothing in California. We've tried a few times. Hey,
Governor Newsom, so we have to get legislation.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Let's get on the horn.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yeah, but we do have New York New York had
passed the Senate in twenty twenty two and then installed
in the Assembly. But we do have great news. So
June twelfth was a hearing for New York City where
all New York City schools will have to be equipped
with an airway clearance device. The representative put this bill
in a year ago August. Her grandfather choked to death
(07:58):
in a restaurant, so she's very passionate. She has the bill.
It was just it was supposed to be, sorry, supposed
to be for June twelfth, but it got delayed. There's
a new date on that. But once she's done, every
New York City school will have to be equipped with
Life Acts. And then from there, once she's reelected, we're
going to go after all the restaurants.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
So amazing, amazing.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Can you imagine when we were back in school and
the war, like, say, the warners were in the cafeteria
and things were getting passed around. Could you imagine if
there was a product like Life Act available and the
administration for some strange reason was fighting it and wouldn't
have it available.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
No, no, I can't they And it's it's not that
much of a different world either. I mean, if you're
a parent, why wouldn't you you definitely want I don't
think one. I think schools are big enough where you
should have two or three in the school. I mean
every cafeteria, every every yeah, every gym. I mean it's
not it's not.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Like kids be eating in the library. Yeah, it's not
like thousand dollars items, right, seventy dollars right.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
So there's so there's two things. One what I love
about the Texas Bill is that it's not a financial
burden on the schools. They can be donated or purchased
with grant money. But I think that we should go ahead.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
We have something we worked on soundproofing the studio, but
it hasn't.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Come in yet.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I think they unraveled it because we hear it might
be a fracas or some sort of ruckus.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Tony's ready. We spoke about that.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
You're listening to the ruckus in the arena Red Thatcher
along with Tony Lebate and padder Rourke, and we've been
just talking about the legislation that's going on and the
illegal aspect of getting Life Acts deployed. Common sense you
think nationwide is coming back. It's back in favor, back
in style.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
So there is no there is no financial burden really
on any of the schools. So that's what I love
about well.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
And that's what's great about the original appearance. And I
don't know if you were in Wisconsin. Was Wisconsin where
Arthur Lee made the presentation and they asked a question
about money and budget and he said, if you request
one any school now, if we're only in twenty percent
of the schools, after this next statement, it's amazing to me.
It shows how much odd resistance there might be to
(10:15):
having Life Acts around.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And that is if you.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Request a Life Act, you can get it for free.
And that was originally just for Wisconsin and then nationwide.
Now I think he's I think a life fact has
donated seven million dollars worth of Life Act advice. But
still only twenty percent of schools nationwide. It's far too few. Yeah,
that's yeah, we have to work on that, and and
(10:40):
we continue to fight on That's why when Arthur says
keep going, we you know, we have a great save,
we have a great day, we have a great number
of saves, or a great finance legislative win.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Right, we say keep going, and then the wins are
going to just keep coming because as like as this
whole week has just been really blowing me away and
seeing how people so also, here's another little story, even
just with a little podcast. I was contacted by a
gentleman with spina bifida that's up in Rochester in a facility,
(11:14):
and it's just so nice to form these friendships. You know,
obviously we've never met, but I was able to donate
a unit to him and send a little care package
but the word is getting out there. We have to
have everybody protected from a choking emergency, and that's going
to be my goal. And as I mentioned earlier, you know,
I hit opposition, I get messages, I get nasty messages
(11:37):
in my messenger, and you know, I'm ignoring it. It's
just a passion. It's just it's just saving lives. I mean,
I don't understand where where the trolls are coming from
and why do they not want this, But.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Some areas it's politics and it creeps into everything. And
I don't think there's a a a a place for
politics in First aid in general. Certainly choking people don't
have any political interests at that time when they're choking. Yeah,
so it shouldn't be but we see it every day
and we also just see you know, let's say it evil.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
So what I also found out today, which I'm not
sure if it will be on the news, there was
another choking tragedy in uh Out East and.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
On Long Island. Yeah, so five thousand people.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Just so folks that are tuning in and not you know,
don't live it every day like the folks at Life
Back and Equal First Aid. Five thousand people year die
of a choking emergency. It's the fourth leading cause of
accidental death, and it's preventable. It's is that the proper
way to say it. It's really amazing, you know. So
another one out east, what was the the details?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Five year old passed away. But you know what I'm
learning too is like a lot of people, you know,
some of the comments are, hey, I've been in school
all these years and I've there's nobody choked in school,
nobody pass But that's what we don't hear about. So
I had spoken to a fireman's wife who said that
they're little I forget what you call them, but like
(13:09):
not don't'm going to date myself the CB radio or
transmit sure Ham radio whatever, yeah, whatever they listen to.
Now every day there's a choking emergency every single day,
and that's how so.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
We talk about the ones that that end in ultimate
tragedy five thousand people a year, but there is if
we hear more, and there's far more nine to one
one calls and interventions, and that's if.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
We hear about it. Then if there's a lawsuit, we're
not going to hear about it.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
That's when things go.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Yeah, So it's just to prevent it. I don't know why,
you know again why there's opposition, But we have opposition,
all different levels of opposition. Whether it's there's no staffing
in the schools with their school nurse. Well that's all
the more reason than that you should have an airway
clearance device. You don't have a nurse, then somebody is responsible.
(14:00):
So I say to them, then who's responsible? Who's responsible
for these children when you have no nurse train them?
So yeah, we have a lot of different levels, but
we're going to keep going, like you said, and.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Keep going, keep going. You're listening to Tony Lebato vehicle
first aid here with powder rock pat as always. Just
we're smacked in the face with a common sense argument
of having life acts available.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Even when she says, you know we have to you
don't have to really train life actor is if it
takes three minutes to train you how to do it. Yep,
it's an orthogisign type device, but on a choker's mouth
and just pull back. That's it's not like a difibilated
paddles or you know, you don't have to be a doctor.
That's all right, there's not a nurse. The principle should
not or every teacher should know how to do it. Yeah,
(14:45):
say five minutes beginning a year and just train them all.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, we don't do much for the intentional choking. It's
all about and this is my joke. I think you know,
it's like my dad joke choking.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah, intentional choking, we can't help.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
It's the accidental choking that life fact will intervene and
remove any obstruction. You know, we've been talking with Tony
Lebata vehicle first Aid. Coming up in the next segment.
I'm excited. We're gonna visit Sorry Cantes a Lie and
within that the book that Arthur Lee wrote. Go to
Life Aact dot Net get the book, Sorry Cantes a Lie.
In that book is a great chapter called The Games
(15:18):
Due Count, which is a book by the great Brian Kilmead.
Coming up in the next segment, we're gonna be talking
to Larry Sunderland, Massapequa soccer legend and now doing it
on the national scale, international scale. I can't wait to
talk to Larry after this break.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
You'll be choked me. By the way.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
No, that's not intentional, that's not true. Maybe at McKenna,
maybe at McKenna. But we'll be right back with Larry
Sunderland on the Man in the.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Arena him Martha Lee, CEO and inventor of Life Back
and a simple choking rescue device that thirteen years ago
(16:07):
was made my garage to protect my daughter.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Now all of these lives have been saved thanks to
Life Back, over four thousand lives and over two thousand kids.
But still a child dies every five days from joking.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
Please, our family is everything to us. Consider protecting your
family in a choking emergency with Life Back. Go to
lifefack dot net today.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Thanks Dad.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
How great is it to see Arthur and Jackie Lee
on the commercial almost ten years after the initial one
where Jackie was only seven or eight years old. It
really is beautiful and she and he rips her out
of college. She doesn't mind missing class as far as
we know. But it's great to see Arthur and Jackie.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Even though they're.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Not here tonight, they're with us and we're able to.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
See them on the commercial.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Anyway, we're back. My name is Rick Thatcher Into the
Man in the Arena. We're in La San Diego, Orlando, Houston, Dallas, Alantown, Allentown, PA.
Sneaking in there and they want and of course the
great state of New York. Someone singing, someone singing in
another studio, and I'm just gonna just go on and
(17:18):
act like I don't hear it. But I mentioned before,
and we're going to get to CJ.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Douglas.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I see CJ in the waiting room. But I want
to bring on Larry Sunderland. Larry Sunderland's from Krys, director
of player Development.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Oh my goodness, there he is. How are you, Larry
good Rick?
Speaker 8 (17:35):
How you doing?
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Man?
Speaker 8 (17:36):
Great to see you great. Put on my special glasses
for you. Yeah, look, Harry carry glasses from my Chicago days.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Little Harry Carross thinking Elvis Costello. But you look great.
And now we reconnected thanks to Bruce Stegner about a
year ago. But it's so great that you reached out
a couple of weeks ago. And it was so great
I wanted the opperortunity for you to come on. Talk
about when we talk about the book. Uh, And of
(18:05):
course Brian Killmead's book, and and inside Arthur's book is
a chapter on the games you count. I don't know
of anyone that personifies the games do count more? Because
you took came from a great soccer town of Massapequa,
and you ran with it. Tell us a little bit
about your journey after after graduating from UH from Berner
(18:29):
because it's long in the story, but you know, keep
in mind we have about fifteen minutes.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
Yeah, you know, I was just I was really blessed
to grow up in Massapequa with so many great people
and so many great role models. And that's I think
that's something that you take with you everywhere you go.
You know, I'm a I'm a long Islander, you know,
and and that's, uh, that's something I'm really proud of.
And I'm really proud of Massapequa when I when I
(18:57):
left Fordham University and and I was fortunate enough to
play a bit with the New York Express at that
time of the old mis L and then as you know,
rick so many of these leagues at that time, prior
to MLS, you know, it was a different acronym for
every league, and something would come along, something would fold.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Still, is right, Yeah, other than MLS is established and
it's a staple. But when you get into the lower
divisions and lower leagues, and you know, we have it now,
it's just hard to keep track.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
It is, it is so it was, you know, it
was a grind and I did that for about thirteen years.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Question, Larry, and I asked you the story. Let's just
go back a little bit further and talk about the
importance of you know, your dad, Wayne Sunderland, was you know,
one of the founding fathers of Masspeaker soccer clubs certainly
and Long Island in general was involved with the Cosmos.
So how great was it to have the mayor of
Massa people park in your household call him dad?
Speaker 6 (19:58):
You know?
Speaker 8 (19:59):
Pretty crazy, right, it was? It was I got involved
with soccer so young because of that, and he wasn't
you know, Rick, You know, my dad wasn't like a
soccer guy.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
He was an.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
American sports guy, you know, who just kind of fell
in love with the game. And it was like my
house was was pretty interesting because it was it was
athletics and it was politics, you know, So it was
it was pretty cool for me. And I'm still kind
of like a political junkie with stuff and.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
And you don't Republican, Democrat, Independent, you don't care, right, Larry.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I don't care.
Speaker 8 (20:33):
I love talking politics with people.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah, Oh, you're the guy.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
It should be. It should be a safer topic than
it is. You should be.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
So you played, I know you played in the Midwest,
was it Milwaukee?
Speaker 8 (20:48):
Played Milwaukee in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Milwaukee in Chicago, and then you got involved in on
the coaching and administrative side, not only with US Soccer
but also Portland and yes, and then so let me
ask you this. At Chicago did you have uh did
your did the timelines crossed with the say a Chris
Armas at Chicago?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (21:10):
It did. Yeah, I was just when I finished playing,
when I retired, Chicago Fire was just really coming on
the scene and I got involved with running all their
youth and player development stuff. So that was kind of
that was the start for me. You know, my my
pathway in the player development field started in Chicago, and
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Chris was on the team then, and of course I
knew Chris from Long Island.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Right, so so to New York.
Speaker 8 (21:38):
Yeah, And I spent about boy fifteen years in Chicago
with the Chicago Fire and then I then I went
to the Portland Timbers for about four years.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Great atmosphere out there, right, what's that incredible soccer culture
out there?
Speaker 8 (21:54):
That was Yeah, their their fan base at that time.
Now there's a lot more right now. Do you have
incredible fan bases in a lot of different places, but Portland's
fan base is crazy. And what a beautiful area of
the country, right the Northwest is beautiful. So that was
a great experience. And then when this opportunity presented itself
in Cincinnati, they just started the team in MLS, A
(22:17):
very ambitious group, a lot of good people, so it
was a.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Good fit for me. Yeah, And.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Just a couple of weeks ago we were in touch
because I think the Red Bulls. I think f C
Cincinnati was either playing in New York or playing against New.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
York if correct me if I'm wrong, Where are we
near the top of the table? Correct?
Speaker 8 (22:36):
Yeah, we're in third place right now. Dropped the game
this past weekend. But now we got a little bit
of a break, right the international break. They're going to
regroup a bit and we're ready to go. It's a
very solid team.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I have nothing but but the warmest wishes for f
C Cincinnati's a big success this year.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Now.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
A couple of about a year ago, Bruce Stegner alerted
us common friend another mass speak with soccer guy, that
your son somehow not somehow. I mean he threw hard work,
played in Europe, was back in Miami and playing with
one Leo Messi. How crazy was that?
Speaker 8 (23:17):
Yeah? For our family, it was it was nuts, right
because he left. He left the US at fifteen to
go play in Spain, you know, because he had dreams
of Barcelona and his heroes in Barcelona and back. So
at sixteen, Rick, he's living in Barcelona, right, going to
(23:40):
FC Barcelona games and dreaming of one day playing there.
And then it just so happens that, you know, an
opportunity at Miami came about. He came back from Spain,
and then I want to say three months later, his
heroes from Barcelona joined the team, you know, and and
he had a great rapport with them because he was
(24:00):
lew in Spanish, knew you know, knew the same restaurants,
knew everything that they knew in Barcelona, could speak Catalan
with them. So it was really really really cool for
him and really cool for us.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Oh, just incredible. And we just came down for one game.
I can only imagine what the season was like. Lawson
now is over in Amsterdam, correct, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (24:23):
Yeah, he went when the season ended. Last year, the
midway point for the European season, he went over and
joined the team just outside of Amsterdam called Door Direct,
and they are easy for you to say, Yeah, I
got better when I went to visit.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, I'm sure, but it had been so correct mate.
You were probably there on the trip back in the
eighties or seventies, late seventies. Yeah, the people with soccer
club makes a trip to Holland and then there was
a return trip.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
But I didn't. I didn't get to go on that trip.
But more about that later.
Speaker 8 (24:57):
I think we're we're about eleven years old.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, yeah, very young.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
And back then you can't imagine this happening now with
all the legal problems with traveling and staying. Who used
to stay with families built called billeted right and yeah
you too, yep. So a lot of the return families
it was an opportunity and some families I know are
still in touch with their Van Cleef Mark in touch
(25:22):
with the U shocks. Really incredible after all these years.
So how's Wilson doing this year?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I heard you.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
I heard he had a bit of an injury, but
he's doing okay.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
Yeah, I picked up an injury towards the end of
the season. Unfortunately missed the uh the promotion playoff, but
he's doing well. He's rehabbing in Amsterdam, so he's got
a little bit of a break and you know, working
to be ready to go for the beginning of the season.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah. Now when we get back.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
We mentioned it before, like games you count, and I
just wanted to ask you the theme, you know, through
all that you've been through with this great game of soccer.
Of course, the messock shop closing very sad, but can
you give a little insight or your thoughts on like
how early from early on playing soccer, the coaching, the discipline,
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how it affected your professional life even though you're still
in the game, but you know, the application of all
those lessons that you learned, whether it's Fordom or post
or from your dad.
Speaker 8 (26:22):
Yeah, you know, I think I think the biggest impact
that it all had on me, right, was was this
just this idea of perseverance.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Right.
Speaker 8 (26:36):
There's a lot of things around that, you know, and
there's a lot of buzzwords that are out there these
days that I think sometimes can distract from the idea
of you know, what you just have to work and
if you continue to work and you put the time in,
you know, you may not get to that pinnacle that
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you're looking for, but really good things are going to
happen along the way. And I also found that if
if you if that's kind of one of your your values,
people with the same values tend to gravitate to each other,
you know. And this is a team game. I think
everything we do is about team, right. None of us
are in this alone. And I think if you persevere
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and you find other people that persevere, you know, things
are gonna be okay in the end.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Like the Life Back Team, Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Great point, Tom, Pat you uh, we talk about games
you count quite often lessons that we learned, and of
course soccer not much different than the Little Cross or
the wrestling teams or the you know, basketball teams. We
talked about having the same level of great coaches back
in back in what you played in the Mustangs and
(27:49):
also the what was the mohawks. Mohawks Again a little
bit of uh, you know, cultural appropriation, but it's okay, right,
Once a chief, always a chief, once.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
A biding this our different things were back then.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
We had two high school kids from Berner where they
were our coaches for like, from the time we were
like nine to thirteen and we've stayed in touch with
them for fifty forty years or whatever.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Steve Forenza and Gary Spirou my coaches. Is Gary Spirou
a chiropractor? Yes, yeh, yeh. He's related related to Michael Nurni.
This is where got small games. Wow.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Yeah, especially like you know, you and I both lost
our dads at a young age, so we clung to coaches,
you know, teachers in school, any father figure we could
sports was you know, a huge part.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Of our lives. Yeah, didn't want to leave practice fill
in father, Yeah he was and touting the lesson you
need you know, you need to know in life. Wow.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Absolutely so, Larry, fast forward or I don't know if
I rewind from a couple of weeks, but fast forward
from this discussion and a couple of weeks ago you
reached out and said, hey, Rick, I had an idea
meeting with the first s aid or Aaron Powell, the
head trainer, and you wanted to bring everyone up to
speed on CPR. Tell our audience how it progressed from
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there to include life act.
Speaker 8 (29:06):
Yeah, it was a situation where our head of medical
Aaron Powell, we're actually doing it. On the twelfth of June,
I wanted to get be in the building up to
speed a CPR and and he came to me and said, hey,
can you get your staff together and push this a bit.
Make sure, you know, you give him a little bit
of a nudge to to sign up for this, and
(29:29):
and I was just like, yeah, hey, by the way, yeah,
my buddy has this product, Life Back, And Aaron was like, yeah,
I know, Life Back, And and then it was like
I reached out to you, Rick, and you know, and
and I think as as you and I started to
talk about it, it was like, yeah, let's make sure
we have it in this building. Then it was like,
(29:51):
let's make sure we get it in the stadium.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
And that was MLS teams and now we're gonna be Yeah,
I'm really excited about partner ring with an old buddy,
an old pal.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
We go back to gosh, so far back.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
But to protect like the MLS, there's so many avenues
that are uncovered and unprotected at this point, and so
to just in this soccer arena be able to take
care of MLS and then we can worry about the
other leagues after you know the US I s L
and you know, but MLS going to the top, just
like we go to the top with Colonel C. J.
(30:28):
Douglass and we go to the VA, go to the
top and the and the trickle down. In fact, and
Tony Lebate Larry, I don't know if you heard this before,
Conquering Texas.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
This is Tony Larry.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Hello, Hello, Conquering Texas.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
A bill through the state. We don't want to jinx it.
We're gonna knock wood. I'll knock Pat's head if I
could get don't.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Say anything till June twenty third.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah, yeah, but such such exciting prospect of having it
mandatory in all schools.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
So it's on the Governor's desk as we speak. So
I don't sleep. I checked. I check everything constantly. I
just wait for my updates.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah, don't wait for the U of the other shoe drops.
I don't want one shoe to drip.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Yeah, the other checking and checking, and then when I
when I had enough of checking, I just reach out
to the representative and say, hey, what's our timeline. So
he feels it's going to be closer to June twenty second.
So I have a little breathing room.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Great reminder though, on the June twelfth, we got the
CPR thing coming up June twelfth, We're going to make
sure that that's taken care of, and our buddy at
Tintos is involved, and we get FC Cincinnati not only
the training facility, but also get to the stadium, and
it's it's just friends, you know, making sure that our
loved ones are protected, right, Larry.
Speaker 8 (31:47):
That's it man. It's look, it's such a simple product,
and it's such an important product.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
You know.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
It's when you sent me, you know, you sent that
to my home and my wife is not.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Like easy, Yeah, I gonna be I have to phrase
this the right way. Yes, you do.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
But she she opened it up and she was like,
oh my god, this is so simple, you know, she
was like, why doesn't ever have this. I'm like, that's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
That's a great question. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, Well, we thank you so much, Larry. I hope
this is the first of many visits to the man
in the arena. Of course, the women in the arena
are welcome to of course, just the Teddy Roosevelt quote happened.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I do have to add in that rolling Red is dead.
Who the Bison's rolling red?
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Larry Peak guys. Yeah, you guys went together, so yes,
let's go.
Speaker 8 (32:40):
How about that rivalry?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
The kids don't even know what that is anymore.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
No, it's crazy.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Your best friends until until high school, then you hate
each other four years, then your best friends again.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Takes a year or two. In college you cool off,
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That's right of in life back for the most part.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Well, Larry, we appreciate you so much coming to the
into the arena. Uh thanks, catch you up along the
way and.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Maybe right back.
Speaker 9 (33:06):
He never more.
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Thank you.
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She started to choke on a piece of candy.
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She wasn't breathing.
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Then Ray reached for the life back and it saved her.
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She could have easily died that day. A life back
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What I would say is, don't need a life back
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Speaker 3 (33:55):
Hey we're back with more. The man in the arena
great to connect with all friends, Larry Sun. Of course, yes,
we went for their listeners at home. We have a
woman in the arena tonight with us as always, Tony
Lebate equal first aid, doing great, great things in eleven states,
most notably and most I guess near in most recent
(34:16):
in Texas. And just let's remind everyone that might be
tuning in what's going on in Texas.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
So Texas as of the past couple days, has passed
their House of Representatives the bill there and quickly throughout
the whole Senate, and as of Monday eleven thirty five am,
it was on the governor's desk. That's my alert. So
we wait for the governor and no opposition.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
No, much like Marco Rubio's.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Confirmation, Well there was there was opposition in the beginning
both there was I probably don't want to really go
over that opposition, but in the hearing there was opposition.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
With his name Heimley.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
So the Texas bill I do want to add is
named the Western Mandrel Act. So it's named after Western Mandrel,
who wasn't beep about eighteen months old when he passed away.
They have the Western Mandrel Foundation in Texas, so she
also Debbie the Grandma, also testified alongside the opposition, and
(35:19):
as that evening, we were frantically trying to get the
message across because we always want to know what is
the protocol, what is the protocol for somebody that's in
a wheelchair? And if I tell you state to state,
And the one that blew me away the most was Pennsylvania.
Pennsylvania's representative walked away from the bill saying that there
(35:43):
was not enough disabled children enrolled in their schools and
you could lay the wheelchair down to the floor. So
my advocates construction, that's really you can't always take the
and you can't lay the wheelchairs down anymore. I mean,
we're they're thinking.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Night it's harder or easier.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
It's yeah, right, you also can't based on handicapped the
regular kids too, they choked, Sure, sure.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
It's for yeah, obviously for everybody. And also we were
part of equal first date was part of two of
the saves. One of them was, as I mentioned earlier,
a nurse in a New York City school saved the teacher.
So it's to protect everybody, every student, every staff, but
on behalf of Equal First Aid. We we want to
(36:28):
raise awareness. There is no choking protocol to rescue somebody
in a wheelchair, and you're not laying the wheelchairs down.
As you met Eric Ryan, his wheelchair is two hundred
and fifty pounds and the larger wheels, you're not laying
the chair down. So we want to make sure that
everybody is protected from a choking tragedy.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
That first date is over, that's what we're Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
And you know again there is opposition that so Texas
got through their opposition.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
And we But but when it came to a vote,
did you say that one person voted against it?
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yeah, so it doesn't sound I mean, so today's world
of politics, that's pretty dark.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
It was about one thirty four to one.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
That one embarrassed.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
So yeah, that happened in New York too. By the way,
there's always that you're always going to have that one
for whatever whatever reason.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
There is not a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
There's one guy who didn't vote for unbelievable. Yeah, it's
not like that at all.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
There's always there's always the one. But yes, I'm hoping
that I can share with you guys I know you
guys talk a lot about the soccer. I'm I don't
know the first thing about soccer.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I'm sorry, but it's universal.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Yeah, when you identify we're talking soccer, and we talked
about teamwork and the games do count and the philosophy,
and you quickly noticed that, hey, that's like the life acts.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, and it's like any team.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
So the whether the book or we talk about examples
less life lessons. If it's volleyball, water polo, ping pong,
let's forget about ping pong, because that's different. Now it
is it is really universal. It's it's life lessons. And
if we had time to listen to CJ's story about
place kicking, certainly football and coaching that that you know,
(38:13):
the lessons that he learned are you know, universal, and
it doesn't matter the sport, doesn't matter the gender. It
is just a great life lesson. And speaking of CJ. Douglas,
I want to welcome him tonight. I believe we have him.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
In the arena. We didn't.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
How why are you I CJ? And this is Colonel
Christopher Douglas Marine, Sorry but we don't. We may have
an audio problem. Are you on mute? Sir, So for
those of you listening at home, we're encountering an audio problem.
(38:58):
My name is Rick Thatcher. Along with only Lebate, Patrick
O'Rourke and guys, we've been talking about equal first aid
and the legislative win or potential legislative win not only
in Texas, but.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
You're coming up to eleven other states and New York.
Speaker 9 (39:13):
Yeah, he is.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
We're actually getting notes from c J and it says
something about out of Okay, Well, CJ, you know what,
let's connect with you. If we can't forget, Yeah, we
will just take your.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Word for it.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
About what we were going to talk about is our
trip to Washington. And let's just use general terms because
we don't want to get into specifics. I know, Arthur,
we went down to meet with the VA. We went
down to meet with the patent office. That's certainly important.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Ice. Yes, you know Timmy Van Patten very yes, yes, yes,
he has the whole office. Yes.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Would you be surprised if you walk into the patent
office and Timmy Van Patten was running the show?
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Timmy is actually younger than his uncle's, I mean older
than his uncles. Wow, you know Vince van Patten.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
That's sure. He's like, it is enough.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Now we're going way back, but it is enough. I
don't remember the theme song, but I think Lisa Warner.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Does the father. The father on is Enough was Tim
Timmy's older brother, Jack Van Patten. Yeah, it was Timmy's
older brother.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
Yes, so Timmy had uncles or he had nephews that
were older than him.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Yeah, you know what as as we as we I
think we call vamp vapor or stretching and the in Hollywood,
CJ just yell out if you if we figure out.
Bobby and c J are working on audio problems diligently
or fervently.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
But we were talking about the patent off in de Yeah,
a big week.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah, And what we promised before we left was Arthur
was adamant about this show, being called a man in
the arena talking about arena topics and and what we're
doing and not just you know, saying this is what
we're gonna do, and and not being accountable, not going
back to report and updates. Now we have more work
to do. Certainly, they were very impressed that the VA
(41:08):
office and let's let's you know, Arthur wanted to know
who we were meeting. We were meeting with the highest
levels of our VA. Listen, we have Heidi, Yeah, no question,
Brian Killmead CJ. Douglas have opened the door knocking, and
Life Act's got a great story. Listen, if we went
in there with I don't know, big League jew gum
or you know, a horrible mouse trap, it would be Hey,
(41:32):
thank guys, thanks for coming, or you know, don't bother.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
It's nice. But you know, they're interested in the story.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
They're interested in protecting the veterans, and like we said before,
the their hearts are in the right place. There's a
there's a unity of compassion and willingness to do the
right thing, not only veterans, but uh, you know everyone
that's involved in the facilities, because we're protecting the staff
as well. So in the meantime, Heidi Felix, who is
(41:58):
down in Washington right now now fighting the good fight
in other areas, has been doing incredible work with Orlando,
with California, the SIM Lab, and we just have a
new we're gonna be talking with mister three thousand, yes
hopefully God willing. You know, we're gonna have a new
(42:20):
details of a new save from a VA so it's
very timely, very well.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
We have, CJJ. Did we clear it up? Hey?
Speaker 10 (42:27):
Rick, pat may like a cave man with a chainsaw here,
so help me a little bit to get that resolved.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
It's like the doors break on through. We got a
break on through to the other side.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Just like he's off, keep going, here we go. So CJ,
we were talking.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
I was starting at sputtering out sentence fragments talking about
our trip to the VA. What was your recollection? And
I know that we have more work to do, we're
going back down, but what do you think of our
first venue or a versus venture down to DC.
Speaker 10 (42:59):
I thought it was pretty deductive. One of the things
that really impressed me was the professionalism of the VA staff. Now,
you know, as a as a veteran, you know, of
course I'm I'm critical. I've had very good experiences with
the veterans administration, but this really showed leadership counts. You know,
(43:20):
so when you talk about the games do count you
know at some point like kind of like to dig
into you know, Doug Collins's chief of staff, and you know,
the the other staff members that we engage with. You know,
everybody was professional, empathetic, polite. I mean, it was just
just a really good atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah, from the moment we arrived, the greeting of the door.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Half hour early, like we were early, this nice young
lady was down there waiting for us, and we you know,
for a moment we thought, gosh, you're we late.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
No, she's just down here in the case.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
We showed up early and the portfolio and everyone coming
in and uh, I laughed, We laughed collectively about the uh.
The excuse that sometimes reps or representatives from companies get
is you know, doctor has an emergency, That's what I'm
used to, but they have the White House, get out
of jail. So if we were boring or rude in
(44:19):
any way, they had there emergency at the White we
go to the White House, which was by the way,
about two hundred yards away, right.
Speaker 10 (44:28):
You can, yes, definitely, Uh.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Yeah, so we yeah, yeah, no more, no more dead cats.
Speaker 8 (44:37):
Right.
Speaker 10 (44:38):
Well, I was trying to steer clear of that reference
since we were on the air and not just in
the in the circle of trust.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Yeah, we do not want to We do not want
to anger the pedo folks. We have enough people that
you know, come out, so there'll be no swinging of Benny.
Speaker 10 (44:53):
No, there will be no swing. No cats will be
harmed in the in the course.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Exactly, but we're excited for the trip down.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yes, have we tried light back on cats work? That's true,
it has worked on cats. We got nine lives, a
couple of dogs, a couple of cats. Even technically you
don't need to use it. Yeah, not technically, I think too.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
Dogs.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Wait really, yes, it's they've done it on two dogs
that work. Yes, I was kidding. Yeah, now I really
dig it all right? Yeah, go life back with bets.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
And I'm sure donnay Eisley is at home and was
communicating with mister two thousand raight previ as we speak
on the exact number for pets if she's with us.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
But Donna returning, Thank goodness your return. I'm just a
maginate that's out from Europe.
Speaker 10 (45:38):
Yeah, I'm not sure this is going to be happy
about this line. And the discussion is I break out
the trainer and put it over his mugg.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Is Travis in the building.
Speaker 10 (45:51):
He walked out as soon as uh started hearing the
conversation started. I don't like how this is going. I
might wind up with a life back on my face.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Yeah, but CJ, we wish we had more time. We
are excited about the follow up visit and let's look
forward to making that happen.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
We're coming back.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
You are beauty, okay, yep, So we we thank you
CJ each and every week. We are, you know, fortunate
to speak to have a joke night.
Speaker 8 (46:24):
Thank you for your service.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Note and we will.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
See you along the way and we'll be back with more.
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Tony Lebate from Equal First Aid, we can't say enough
great things about this woman.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Yeah, thank you? What did I say?
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No?
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Awesome, joined forces eleven states by yourself.
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Wow.
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Yeah, and people recognize you on the street. They absolutely
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Oh, so Pat Tonight has taken it upon himself to
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been Ray? This is the first time in a long
time since you started making appearances, and the warners are
nodding as I to say this.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
I'll get to. My point is that we haven't seen
you in a while.
Speaker 9 (50:21):
It's it's been several weeks. And let me tell you,
I have gone through some some serious withdrawals from seeing
you guys.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
And have you gotten through you know? I don't know.
Speaker 9 (50:32):
I don't know how I made it through. But you know,
hope is what got me through for the next show.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
Hope. I'm here, beautiful and we're so blessed to have you.
Speaker 9 (50:42):
I love being here. So, Pat, you got a guess?
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Do you? I wrote it down. I don't want to
ruin it, but yeah, I wrote it down. I'll let
you know what and everyone can.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
See how would you like it, Ray, would you like
him to reveal it to you or would you rather
wait and see?
Speaker 9 (50:53):
You know, I'm gonna go hide and wait. I'm gonna
go ahead and reveal the number and we'll Christmas morning.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
You're a Christmas Morning type of guy, exactly.
Speaker 9 (51:02):
Absolutely. And for those who are just signing on, my
name is Ray Prieby from Cape Coral, Florida. I am
mister three thousand. Look at that. That's my little girl
right there.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
Little those listening, you're seeing a beautiful young lady, Maya
pri Bee who Ray her dad saved on this Florida
Highway with life act and such an emotional story and
we love hearing it.
Speaker 9 (51:28):
And it was number three thousand, Yeah, number three thousand,
and here I am still trucking along with you guys.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
Yeah, we're blessed.
Speaker 9 (51:36):
Absolutely, So without further ado, here we go. We are
at a total on this wonderful day of four thousand,
one hundred forty three saves.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
That was a little low. I was wow, forty one.
A lot of people choking.
Speaker 12 (51:54):
Out there, A lot of saves out there, a lot
of saves, and my my little girl was saved on
October twentieth of twenty twenty four, just last year, two
hundred and twenty eight days ago, as a matter of fact,
and we have one thousand, one hundred forty three saves
two hundred and twenty eight days.
Speaker 9 (52:16):
So again, it's just absolutely unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (52:20):
So I was impressed not only with the numbers each
week and the presentation, but there was a special one.
Given our discussion about the VA on the national scale
and all the great work that Heidi Felix has been
doing in Orlando, in California, New Hampshire has gotten themselves
into the mix, and we're surprised to know that it
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was there in the first place.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
But Ray, do you have any details? I do.
Speaker 9 (52:46):
As a matter of fact, the highlight of the week
comes from New Hampshire VA Medical Center where a sixty
seven year old male choked on food causing a total
obstruction took place in the community living center. Call was following.
Life back was used two times. The patient received medical
attention after and no complications were found. After the nursing
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staff identified backlows were attempted, the Heimlich was tried. After
those failed, the life back was deployed. Our young nurse
used it and saved the patient.
Speaker 3 (53:24):
Hard to argue with those when you hear the account
and when you collect the data and you read it,
it's hard to argue with the effectiveness. And we stand
behind standard you know, trying standard protocols, but they don't
always work, as evidenced here and in so many other cases.
Speaker 9 (53:42):
Which I can attest for because number three thousand, guess
what backblows in the Heimlich did not work on my
several several attempts. Uh if it if it wasn't for
the Life Back, she wouldn't be here.
Speaker 5 (53:53):
Wow, we hear these every week. It's it's always the same.
I mean, it's amazing. You know what we did the
heim League.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
We did this.
Speaker 5 (53:59):
We did that than two or three pops with the
Life backing boom. Yeah, amazing.
Speaker 9 (54:04):
I mean just I mean since our last show May
fifteenth to June sixth, today, ninety saves, ninety saves in
those couple of weeks right there. Three saves just today alone.
So again it's the proof is in the pudding. You know,
the numbers don't lie.
Speaker 5 (54:21):
Life Back works and it's not even dinner time for
most of the country, so it could be more today,
it could be more.
Speaker 9 (54:27):
Today could be more today.
Speaker 3 (54:29):
Ray, you have a wonderful saying that we'd love to hear.
Speaker 9 (54:33):
I do. I do have a little wonderful saying. As
a matter of fact, life back far better to have
it and never need it than need it and not
have it. The life you saved could be your own.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
Love it. Yes, sir, that's fantastic. And you know I
was thinking about well as you.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
Talked about the details of the save in a va
in a state that we were not aware of. I'm
reminded of the size of our company, the size of
the as compared to the size of the mission, and
why c J, myself, Arthur Lee went down to Washington
to meet with the very top so that all of
this work that's being done by pioneers can just be
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it can be sped up so that we're not you know,
going individually to all these different places and working with people,
and those folks are just as passionate about it as
as the team at Life Act is. So we appreciate
you so much sharing that story with us tonight and
all the other stories.
Speaker 1 (55:27):
Mister three thousand, We love you.
Speaker 9 (55:30):
Love you guys, God bless other glady.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
All right, And that's what a great show.
Speaker 3 (55:36):
We talked to Larry Sunderland, we talked to Tony Lebate,
and we always talked to mister three thousand.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
But great news all around.
Speaker 3 (55:43):
Uh, we're taking Washington, we're taking Texas, We're taking those
eleven other states. And Tony, thank you so much for
all the Thank you for not sleep until the.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
End of June.
Speaker 4 (55:52):
June twenty second, hopefully when it's you guys have the
soccer game. As we were talking about soccer earlier on
June twenty.
Speaker 1 (55:59):
Fourth, we'll be there. I will be there and I
will find you with my T shirt.
Speaker 4 (56:03):
That's what I wanted to say. Guess what, I'm going
to supply my own T shirts that you guys can shoot. Awesome,
So we have we're working on those.
Speaker 1 (56:12):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (56:12):
Well, we thank you so much for joining us. We'll
see you next week. We'll see you, we'll hear you.
We'll hear each other next week. On The Man in
the Arena Micro take it Away.
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Speaker 1 (00:48):
My name is Rick Thatcher.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I am pleased his punch to be joined by Patrick O'Rourke,
stand up comic extraordinaire and lifelong friend, and Tony Lebit
Tony Lebate of Equal First Aid. Welcome to the show,
Welcome to the arena.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Thank you so much. Thank you both for having me.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
What I mean, you've been on before, but to bring
people across the country, of course. We're in La San Diego, Houston, Dallas, Orlando, Allentown, PA,
and New York City New to the man in the arena.
Want to you do? Tell us Tony Lebate's EFA story.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Okay, we'll start from the beginning. So ef A Equal
First Aid was founded four years ago, and we want
to bring awareness for the immediate need for airway clearance
devices to protect people, all people, but especially those with
disabilities from choking tragedies. So when Equal First Aid was formed,
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we were met with a New Jersey mom and legislation
in New Jersey that would allow airway clearance devices to
be placed in all schools. So from there, Equal First
Aid snowballed and we now have eleven star with legislation
eleven states twelve bills because Mississippi had the two bills,
but they will be reintroduced, so we have eleven states.
(02:09):
In the short four years and just the past couple days,
things have been just exploding.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Big things happening in Texas. Do you want to like
not jinx it? Is that it about Texas?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
So no, I don't want to Yeah, I don't want
to jinx it. There is no celebrating until until it's
time to celebrate. That's the way I believe that would
be the signing, the signing of yes, yeah at any point.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
We talked earlier about covering topics that we necessarily might
not want to delve into, Like delving is a something
we like to do. But if we're not to delve,
you just stop, drop and roll or throw something sharp
at myself.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Or pat Now to delve or not to delve? Yes,
that's the question.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah, So you're listening to the man in the raada.
You're listening Tony little bit equal first date, we're talking
about Texas. How much can we share about the process
passes the House, passes the Senate a bill that would
make it mandatory the whole state.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
This is not a small state, big state, everything's big.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Don't mess with Clarence devices in every school.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
And I would say, don't mess with Tony Lebate the
vehicle first aying for God's sakes, Well.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I have a great support system. I have wonderful families
that we all work together. So I'm honored to do
this along with the families. So yes, this is our
first state that has House and Senate and it is
on the governor's desk as of Monday at eleven thirty
five am.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Well, so, it's imminent, we'll say so hopefully.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah, there's three things that can happen. He can sign
the bill, put it into law, he can veto the bill,
and he can do nothing. If he does nothing, it
becomes a law. So we will know by June twenty second.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, it seems crazy as and I guess anything's possible
in this world, as we've learned a little bit before COVID,
during COVID and since. But you have to think that
given the nature of the political climate, things moving in
the right direction. Now we wor you work on the
state level. We also talked last week about going down
(04:11):
and fighting the word kind of uh, stirring the pot
on a national level. We went down and met with
the VA. But this whole thing, I just think the
momentum with FDA attention, with the VA attention, I think
that things and certainly with e f A and the
Texas States and now eleven states. I think when we started,
(04:33):
when I started with Life fact you were in seven
and I thought that was monumental because EFA remind me
the staff is not as vast as people might think.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Right, it's time it's time to up it a little bit,
especially after this past week. So it's you, It's it
is I. Yes, and I have I have directors, but
but you are your own boss. I am, and I
do have directors that are on there. Not for profit
has to have their directors, but and there're one wonderful
but they have full time jobs also, so you know,
(05:04):
we we do what we can, you know, as a
as a not for profit organization. And I'm very very
proud to say that. As things are, I think they're
just starting to blow up. So unfortunately, there was a
choking tragedy that just came to light in Maryland and
it was in twenty nineteen, and I reached out to
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the reporter and I find it best on social media.
They got right back, he got right back to me
and within I think that was like May seventeenth, and
right then and there we set up a call and
they did an interview with Equal First Aid and that
was yesterday. I got a phone call today from a
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representative's office that asked that they would like to do
a bill.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
So Maryland, Maryland, based on a case from twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, so a student special needs?
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Is that the correct he did?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Well, not really special needs, but yes, but he had pica.
So pica is where they put all different types of
objects in their mouth. So this happened to be a
rubber glove. Wow, And there was nobody there to save him,
and he choked on a glove. He was seventeen years old.
So that story just came out now because of lawsuits,
(06:20):
et cetera. You know, the families are allowed to speak now.
So that just happened in May, and we had an
interview yesterday and today I'm contacted that they want legislation
now in Maryland.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Unbelievable, So this will be twelve or is that included
in that?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
It'll be twelve? But also today I spoke with Shane
and I know that they're doing great things this week
with Arthur Lee. So we're also going to hit Florida.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
So your reference to Arthur Lee, who couldn't be with
us tonight CEO and Ventorre Life Facult working with Shane
Foresman in the great state of Florida. So Florida was
not included in that eleven because they're doing incredible.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
They're doing incredible things, but it's a matter of getting
the legislator in there. It's a matter of getting the bill,
So I will be sending them a bill to reference to,
and I'll be also sending it into Maryland.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
So other cities. Of course, we mentioned that they outset Texas.
Big news in Texas, so those listening in Dallas and
Houston could be great news in the very near future.
Life fact coming to a school near you. Mandatory. What
about California and other areas? So we're in New York.
My Man in the Arena is broadcast in New York, La,
(07:27):
San Diego.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So California is anything going on?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
So nothing in California. We've tried a few times. Hey,
Governor Newsom, so we have to get legislation.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Let's get on the horn.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yeah, but we do have New York New York had
passed the Senate in twenty twenty two and then installed
in the Assembly. But we do have great news. So
June twelfth was a hearing for New York City where
all New York City schools will have to be equipped
with an airway clearance device. The representative put this bill
in a year ago August. Her grandfather choked to death
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in a restaurant, so she's very passionate. She has the bill.
It was just it was supposed to be, sorry, supposed
to be for June twelfth, but it got delayed. There's
a new date on that. But once she's done, every
New York City school will have to be equipped with
Life Acts. And then from there, once she's reelected, we're
going to go after all the restaurants.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
So amazing, amazing.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Can you imagine when we were back in school and
the war, like, say, the warners were in the cafeteria
and things were getting passed around. Could you imagine if
there was a product like Life Act available and the
administration for some strange reason was fighting it and wouldn't
have it available.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
No, no, I can't they And it's it's not that
much of a different world either. I mean, if you're
a parent, why wouldn't you you definitely want I don't
think one. I think schools are big enough where you
should have two or three in the school. I mean
every cafeteria, every every yeah, every gym. I mean it's
not it's not.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Like kids be eating in the library. Yeah, it's not
like thousand dollars items, right, seventy dollars right.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
So there's so there's two things. One what I love
about the Texas Bill is that it's not a financial
burden on the schools. They can be donated or purchased
with grant money. But I think that we should go ahead.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
We have something we worked on soundproofing the studio, but
it hasn't.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Come in yet.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I think they unraveled it because we hear it might
be a fracas or some sort of ruckus.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Tony's ready. We spoke about that.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
You're listening to the ruckus in the arena Red Thatcher
along with Tony Lebate and padder Rourke, and we've been
just talking about the legislation that's going on and the
illegal aspect of getting Life Acts deployed. Common sense you
think nationwide is coming back. It's back in favor, back
in style.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
So there is no there is no financial burden really
on any of the schools. So that's what I love
about well.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
And that's what's great about the original appearance. And I
don't know if you were in Wisconsin. Was Wisconsin where
Arthur Lee made the presentation and they asked a question
about money and budget and he said, if you request
one any school now, if we're only in twenty percent
of the schools, after this next statement, it's amazing to me.
It shows how much odd resistance there might be to
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having Life Acts around.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And that is if you.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Request a Life Act, you can get it for free.
And that was originally just for Wisconsin and then nationwide.
Now I think he's I think a life fact has
donated seven million dollars worth of Life Act advice. But
still only twenty percent of schools nationwide. It's far too few. Yeah,
that's yeah, we have to work on that, and and
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we continue to fight on That's why when Arthur says
keep going, we you know, we have a great save,
we have a great day, we have a great number
of saves, or a great finance legislative win.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Right, we say keep going, and then the wins are
going to just keep coming because as like as this
whole week has just been really blowing me away and
seeing how people so also, here's another little story, even
just with a little podcast. I was contacted by a
gentleman with spina bifida that's up in Rochester in a facility,
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and it's just so nice to form these friendships. You know,
obviously we've never met, but I was able to donate
a unit to him and send a little care package
but the word is getting out there. We have to
have everybody protected from a choking emergency, and that's going
to be my goal. And as I mentioned earlier, you know,
I hit opposition, I get messages, I get nasty messages
(11:37):
in my messenger, and you know, I'm ignoring it. It's
just a passion. It's just it's just saving lives. I mean,
I don't understand where where the trolls are coming from
and why do they not want this, But.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Some areas it's politics and it creeps into everything. And
I don't think there's a a a a place for
politics in First aid in general. Certainly choking people don't
have any political interests at that time when they're choking. Yeah,
so it shouldn't be but we see it every day
and we also just see you know, let's say it evil.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
So what I also found out today, which I'm not
sure if it will be on the news, there was
another choking tragedy in uh Out East and.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
On Long Island. Yeah, so five thousand people.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Just so folks that are tuning in and not you know,
don't live it every day like the folks at Life
Back and Equal First Aid. Five thousand people year die
of a choking emergency. It's the fourth leading cause of
accidental death, and it's preventable. It's is that the proper
way to say it. It's really amazing, you know. So
another one out east, what was the the details?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Five year old passed away. But you know what I'm
learning too is like a lot of people, you know,
some of the comments are, hey, I've been in school
all these years and I've there's nobody choked in school,
nobody pass But that's what we don't hear about. So
I had spoken to a fireman's wife who said that
they're little I forget what you call them, but like
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not don't'm going to date myself the CB radio or
transmit sure Ham radio whatever, yeah, whatever they listen to.
Now every day there's a choking emergency every single day,
and that's how so.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
We talk about the ones that that end in ultimate
tragedy five thousand people a year, but there is if
we hear more, and there's far more nine to one
one calls and interventions, and that's if.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
We hear about it. Then if there's a lawsuit, we're
not going to hear about it.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
That's when things go.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Yeah, So it's just to prevent it. I don't know why,
you know again why there's opposition, But we have opposition,
all different levels of opposition. Whether it's there's no staffing
in the schools with their school nurse. Well that's all
the more reason than that you should have an airway
clearance device. You don't have a nurse, then somebody is responsible.
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So I say to them, then who's responsible? Who's responsible
for these children when you have no nurse train them?
So yeah, we have a lot of different levels, but
we're going to keep going, like you said, and.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Keep going, keep going. You're listening to Tony Lebato vehicle
first aid here with powder rock pat as always. Just
we're smacked in the face with a common sense argument
of having life acts available.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Even when she says, you know we have to you
don't have to really train life actor is if it
takes three minutes to train you how to do it. Yep,
it's an orthogisign type device, but on a choker's mouth
and just pull back. That's it's not like a difibilated
paddles or you know, you don't have to be a doctor.
That's all right, there's not a nurse. The principle should
not or every teacher should know how to do it. Yeah,
(14:45):
say five minutes beginning a year and just train them all.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, we don't do much for the intentional choking. It's
all about and this is my joke. I think you know,
it's like my dad joke choking.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah, intentional choking, we can't help.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
It's the accidental choking that life fact will intervene and
remove any obstruction. You know, we've been talking with Tony
Lebata vehicle first Aid. Coming up in the next segment.
I'm excited. We're gonna visit Sorry Cantes a Lie and
within that the book that Arthur Lee wrote. Go to
Life Aact dot Net get the book, Sorry Cantes a Lie.
In that book is a great chapter called The Games
(15:18):
Due Count, which is a book by the great Brian Kilmead.
Coming up in the next segment, we're gonna be talking
to Larry Sunderland, Massapequa soccer legend and now doing it
on the national scale, international scale. I can't wait to
talk to Larry after this break.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
You'll be choked me. By the way.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
No, that's not intentional, that's not true. Maybe at McKenna,
maybe at McKenna. But we'll be right back with Larry
Sunderland on the Man in the.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Arena him Martha Lee, CEO and inventor of Life Back
and a simple choking rescue device that thirteen years ago
(16:07):
was made my garage to protect my daughter.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Now all of these lives have been saved thanks to
Life Back, over four thousand lives and over two thousand kids.
But still a child dies every five days from joking.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
Please, our family is everything to us. Consider protecting your
family in a choking emergency with Life Back. Go to
lifefack dot net today.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Thanks Dad.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
How great is it to see Arthur and Jackie Lee
on the commercial almost ten years after the initial one
where Jackie was only seven or eight years old. It
really is beautiful and she and he rips her out
of college. She doesn't mind missing class as far as
we know. But it's great to see Arthur and Jackie.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Even though they're.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Not here tonight, they're with us and we're able to.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
See them on the commercial.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Anyway, we're back. My name is Rick Thatcher Into the
Man in the Arena. We're in La San Diego, Orlando, Houston, Dallas, Alantown, Allentown, PA.
Sneaking in there and they want and of course the
great state of New York. Someone singing, someone singing in
another studio, and I'm just gonna just go on and
(17:18):
act like I don't hear it. But I mentioned before,
and we're going to get to CJ.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Douglas.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I see CJ in the waiting room. But I want
to bring on Larry Sunderland. Larry Sunderland's from Krys, director
of player Development.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Oh my goodness, there he is. How are you, Larry
good Rick?
Speaker 8 (17:35):
How you doing?
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Man?
Speaker 8 (17:36):
Great to see you great. Put on my special glasses
for you. Yeah, look, Harry carry glasses from my Chicago days.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Little Harry Carross thinking Elvis Costello. But you look great.
And now we reconnected thanks to Bruce Stegner about a
year ago. But it's so great that you reached out
a couple of weeks ago. And it was so great
I wanted the opperortunity for you to come on. Talk
about when we talk about the book. Uh, And of
(18:05):
course Brian Killmead's book, and and inside Arthur's book is
a chapter on the games you count. I don't know
of anyone that personifies the games do count more? Because
you took came from a great soccer town of Massapequa,
and you ran with it. Tell us a little bit
about your journey after after graduating from UH from Berner
(18:29):
because it's long in the story, but you know, keep
in mind we have about fifteen minutes.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
Yeah, you know, I was just I was really blessed
to grow up in Massapequa with so many great people
and so many great role models. And that's I think
that's something that you take with you everywhere you go.
You know, I'm a I'm a long Islander, you know,
and and that's, uh, that's something I'm really proud of.
And I'm really proud of Massapequa when I when I
(18:57):
left Fordham University and and I was fortunate enough to
play a bit with the New York Express at that
time of the old mis L and then as you know,
rick so many of these leagues at that time, prior
to MLS, you know, it was a different acronym for
every league, and something would come along, something would fold.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Still, is right, Yeah, other than MLS is established and
it's a staple. But when you get into the lower
divisions and lower leagues, and you know, we have it now,
it's just hard to keep track.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
It is, it is so it was, you know, it
was a grind and I did that for about thirteen years.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Question, Larry, and I asked you the story. Let's just
go back a little bit further and talk about the
importance of you know, your dad, Wayne Sunderland, was you know,
one of the founding fathers of Masspeaker soccer clubs certainly
and Long Island in general was involved with the Cosmos.
So how great was it to have the mayor of
Massa people park in your household call him dad?
Speaker 6 (19:58):
You know?
Speaker 8 (19:59):
Pretty crazy, right, it was? It was I got involved
with soccer so young because of that, and he wasn't
you know, Rick, You know, my dad wasn't like a
soccer guy.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
He was an.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
American sports guy, you know, who just kind of fell
in love with the game. And it was like my
house was was pretty interesting because it was it was
athletics and it was politics, you know, So it was
it was pretty cool for me. And I'm still kind
of like a political junkie with stuff and.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
And you don't Republican, Democrat, Independent, you don't care, right, Larry.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I don't care.
Speaker 8 (20:33):
I love talking politics with people.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah, Oh, you're the guy.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
It should be. It should be a safer topic than
it is. You should be.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
So you played, I know you played in the Midwest,
was it Milwaukee?
Speaker 8 (20:48):
Played Milwaukee in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Milwaukee in Chicago, and then you got involved in on
the coaching and administrative side, not only with US Soccer
but also Portland and yes, and then so let me
ask you this. At Chicago did you have uh did
your did the timelines crossed with the say a Chris
Armas at Chicago?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (21:10):
It did. Yeah, I was just when I finished playing,
when I retired, Chicago Fire was just really coming on
the scene and I got involved with running all their
youth and player development stuff. So that was kind of
that was the start for me. You know, my my
pathway in the player development field started in Chicago, and
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Chris was on the team then, and of course I
knew Chris from Long Island.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Right, so so to New York.
Speaker 8 (21:38):
Yeah, And I spent about boy fifteen years in Chicago
with the Chicago Fire and then I then I went
to the Portland Timbers for about four years.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Great atmosphere out there, right, what's that incredible soccer culture
out there?
Speaker 8 (21:54):
That was Yeah, their their fan base at that time.
Now there's a lot more right now. Do you have
incredible fan bases in a lot of different places, but Portland's
fan base is crazy. And what a beautiful area of
the country, right the Northwest is beautiful. So that was
a great experience. And then when this opportunity presented itself
in Cincinnati, they just started the team in MLS, A
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very ambitious group, a lot of good people, so it
was a.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Good fit for me. Yeah, And.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Just a couple of weeks ago we were in touch
because I think the Red Bulls. I think f C
Cincinnati was either playing in New York or playing against New.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
York if correct me if I'm wrong, Where are we
near the top of the table? Correct?
Speaker 8 (22:36):
Yeah, we're in third place right now. Dropped the game
this past weekend. But now we got a little bit
of a break, right the international break. They're going to
regroup a bit and we're ready to go. It's a
very solid team.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I have nothing but but the warmest wishes for f
C Cincinnati's a big success this year.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Now.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
A couple of about a year ago, Bruce Stegner alerted
us common friend another mass speak with soccer guy, that
your son somehow not somehow. I mean he threw hard work,
played in Europe, was back in Miami and playing with
one Leo Messi. How crazy was that?
Speaker 8 (23:17):
Yeah? For our family, it was it was nuts, right
because he left. He left the US at fifteen to
go play in Spain, you know, because he had dreams
of Barcelona and his heroes in Barcelona and back. So
at sixteen, Rick, he's living in Barcelona, right, going to
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FC Barcelona games and dreaming of one day playing there.
And then it just so happens that, you know, an
opportunity at Miami came about. He came back from Spain,
and then I want to say three months later, his
heroes from Barcelona joined the team, you know, and and
he had a great rapport with them because he was
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lew in Spanish, knew you know, knew the same restaurants,
knew everything that they knew in Barcelona, could speak Catalan
with them. So it was really really really cool for
him and really cool for us.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Oh, just incredible. And we just came down for one game.
I can only imagine what the season was like. Lawson
now is over in Amsterdam, correct, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (24:23):
Yeah, he went when the season ended. Last year, the
midway point for the European season, he went over and
joined the team just outside of Amsterdam called Door Direct,
and they are easy for you to say, Yeah, I
got better when I went to visit.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, I'm sure, but it had been so correct mate.
You were probably there on the trip back in the
eighties or seventies, late seventies. Yeah, the people with soccer
club makes a trip to Holland and then there was
a return trip.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
But I didn't. I didn't get to go on that trip.
But more about that later.
Speaker 8 (24:57):
I think we're we're about eleven years old.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, yeah, very young.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
And back then you can't imagine this happening now with
all the legal problems with traveling and staying. Who used
to stay with families built called billeted right and yeah
you too, yep. So a lot of the return families
it was an opportunity and some families I know are
still in touch with their Van Cleef Mark in touch
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with the U shocks. Really incredible after all these years.
So how's Wilson doing this year?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I heard you.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
I heard he had a bit of an injury, but
he's doing okay.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
Yeah, I picked up an injury towards the end of
the season. Unfortunately missed the uh the promotion playoff, but
he's doing well. He's rehabbing in Amsterdam, so he's got
a little bit of a break and you know, working
to be ready to go for the beginning of the season.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah. Now when we get back.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
We mentioned it before, like games you count, and I
just wanted to ask you the theme, you know, through
all that you've been through with this great game of soccer.
Of course, the messock shop closing very sad, but can
you give a little insight or your thoughts on like
how early from early on playing soccer, the coaching, the discipline,
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how it affected your professional life even though you're still
in the game, but you know, the application of all
those lessons that you learned, whether it's Fordom or post
or from your dad.
Speaker 8 (26:22):
Yeah, you know, I think I think the biggest impact
that it all had on me, right, was was this
just this idea of perseverance.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Right.
Speaker 8 (26:36):
There's a lot of things around that, you know, and
there's a lot of buzzwords that are out there these
days that I think sometimes can distract from the idea
of you know, what you just have to work and
if you continue to work and you put the time in,
you know, you may not get to that pinnacle that
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you're looking for, but really good things are going to
happen along the way. And I also found that if
if you if that's kind of one of your your values,
people with the same values tend to gravitate to each other,
you know. And this is a team game. I think
everything we do is about team, right. None of us
are in this alone. And I think if you persevere
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and you find other people that persevere, you know, things
are gonna be okay in the end.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Like the Life Back Team, Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Great point, Tom, Pat you uh, we talk about games
you count quite often lessons that we learned, and of
course soccer not much different than the Little Cross or
the wrestling teams or the you know, basketball teams. We
talked about having the same level of great coaches back
in back in what you played in the Mustangs and
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also the what was the mohawks. Mohawks Again a little
bit of uh, you know, cultural appropriation, but it's okay, right,
Once a chief, always a chief, once.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
A biding this our different things were back then.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
We had two high school kids from Berner where they
were our coaches for like, from the time we were
like nine to thirteen and we've stayed in touch with
them for fifty forty years or whatever.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Steve Forenza and Gary Spirou my coaches. Is Gary Spirou
a chiropractor? Yes, yeh, yeh. He's related related to Michael Nurni.
This is where got small games. Wow.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Yeah, especially like you know, you and I both lost
our dads at a young age, so we clung to coaches,
you know, teachers in school, any father figure we could
sports was you know, a huge part.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Of our lives. Yeah, didn't want to leave practice fill
in father, Yeah he was and touting the lesson you
need you know, you need to know in life. Wow.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Absolutely so, Larry, fast forward or I don't know if
I rewind from a couple of weeks, but fast forward
from this discussion and a couple of weeks ago you
reached out and said, hey, Rick, I had an idea
meeting with the first s aid or Aaron Powell, the
head trainer, and you wanted to bring everyone up to
speed on CPR. Tell our audience how it progressed from
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there to include life act.
Speaker 8 (29:06):
Yeah, it was a situation where our head of medical
Aaron Powell, we're actually doing it. On the twelfth of June,
I wanted to get be in the building up to
speed a CPR and and he came to me and said, hey,
can you get your staff together and push this a bit.
Make sure, you know, you give him a little bit
of a nudge to to sign up for this, and
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and I was just like, yeah, hey, by the way, yeah,
my buddy has this product, Life Back, And Aaron was like, yeah,
I know, Life Back, And and then it was like
I reached out to you, Rick, and you know, and
and I think as as you and I started to
talk about it, it was like, yeah, let's make sure
we have it in this building. Then it was like,
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let's make sure we get it in the stadium.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
And that was MLS teams and now we're gonna be Yeah,
I'm really excited about partner ring with an old buddy,
an old pal.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
We go back to gosh, so far back.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
But to protect like the MLS, there's so many avenues
that are uncovered and unprotected at this point, and so
to just in this soccer arena be able to take
care of MLS and then we can worry about the
other leagues after you know the US I s L
and you know, but MLS going to the top, just
like we go to the top with Colonel C. J.
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Douglass and we go to the VA, go to the
top and the and the trickle down. In fact, and
Tony Lebate Larry, I don't know if you heard this before,
Conquering Texas.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
This is Tony Larry.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Hello, Hello, Conquering Texas.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
A bill through the state. We don't want to jinx it.
We're gonna knock wood. I'll knock Pat's head if I
could get don't.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Say anything till June twenty third.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah, yeah, but such such exciting prospect of having it
mandatory in all schools.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
So it's on the Governor's desk as we speak. So
I don't sleep. I checked. I check everything constantly. I
just wait for my updates.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah, don't wait for the U of the other shoe drops.
I don't want one shoe to drip.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Yeah, the other checking and checking, and then when I
when I had enough of checking, I just reach out
to the representative and say, hey, what's our timeline. So
he feels it's going to be closer to June twenty second.
So I have a little breathing room.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Great reminder though, on the June twelfth, we got the
CPR thing coming up June twelfth, We're going to make
sure that that's taken care of, and our buddy at
Tintos is involved, and we get FC Cincinnati not only
the training facility, but also get to the stadium, and
it's it's just friends, you know, making sure that our
loved ones are protected, right, Larry.
Speaker 8 (31:47):
That's it man. It's look, it's such a simple product,
and it's such an important product.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
You know.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
It's when you sent me, you know, you sent that
to my home and my wife is not.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Like easy, Yeah, I gonna be I have to phrase
this the right way. Yes, you do.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
But she she opened it up and she was like,
oh my god, this is so simple, you know, she
was like, why doesn't ever have this. I'm like, that's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
That's a great question. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, Well, we thank you so much, Larry. I hope
this is the first of many visits to the man
in the arena. Of course, the women in the arena
are welcome to of course, just the Teddy Roosevelt quote happened.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I do have to add in that rolling Red is dead.
Who the Bison's rolling red?
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Larry Peak guys. Yeah, you guys went together, so yes,
let's go.
Speaker 8 (32:40):
How about that rivalry?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
The kids don't even know what that is anymore.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
No, it's crazy.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Your best friends until until high school, then you hate
each other four years, then your best friends again.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Takes a year or two. In college you cool off,
and then your best friends and now it's nothing but love.
That's right of in life back for the most part.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Well, Larry, we appreciate you so much coming to the
into the arena. Uh thanks, catch you up along the
way and.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Maybe right back.
Speaker 9 (33:06):
He never more.
Speaker 8 (33:08):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
She started to choke on a piece of candy.
Speaker 9 (33:24):
She wasn't breathing.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Then Ray reached for the life back and it saved her.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
She could have easily died that day. A life back
saved her life.
Speaker 9 (33:32):
What I would say is, don't need a life back
and not have it. Have a life back and hopefully
never need it.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
Recently, the American Red Cross has added anti joking devices
as an option when standard protocol fails or is not feasible.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
Go to lifeback dot net or called eight seven seven
five four three three eight two to two.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Hey we're back with more. The man in the arena
great to connect with all friends, Larry Sun. Of course, yes,
we went for their listeners at home. We have a
woman in the arena tonight with us as always, Tony
Lebate equal first aid, doing great, great things in eleven states,
most notably and most I guess near in most recent
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in Texas. And just let's remind everyone that might be
tuning in what's going on in Texas.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
So Texas as of the past couple days, has passed
their House of Representatives the bill there and quickly throughout
the whole Senate, and as of Monday eleven thirty five am,
it was on the governor's desk. That's my alert. So
we wait for the governor and no opposition.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
No, much like Marco Rubio's.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Confirmation, Well there was there was opposition in the beginning
both there was I probably don't want to really go
over that opposition, but in the hearing there was opposition.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
With his name Heimley.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
So the Texas bill I do want to add is
named the Western Mandrel Act. So it's named after Western Mandrel,
who wasn't beep about eighteen months old when he passed away.
They have the Western Mandrel Foundation in Texas, so she
also Debbie the Grandma, also testified alongside the opposition, and
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as that evening, we were frantically trying to get the
message across because we always want to know what is
the protocol, what is the protocol for somebody that's in
a wheelchair? And if I tell you state to state,
And the one that blew me away the most was Pennsylvania.
Pennsylvania's representative walked away from the bill saying that there
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was not enough disabled children enrolled in their schools and
you could lay the wheelchair down to the floor. So
my advocates construction, that's really you can't always take the
and you can't lay the wheelchairs down anymore. I mean,
we're they're thinking.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Night it's harder or easier.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
It's yeah, right, you also can't based on handicapped the
regular kids too, they choked, Sure, sure.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
It's for yeah, obviously for everybody. And also we were
part of equal first date was part of two of
the saves. One of them was, as I mentioned earlier,
a nurse in a New York City school saved the teacher.
So it's to protect everybody, every student, every staff, but
on behalf of Equal First Aid. We we want to
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raise awareness. There is no choking protocol to rescue somebody
in a wheelchair, and you're not laying the wheelchairs down.
As you met Eric Ryan, his wheelchair is two hundred
and fifty pounds and the larger wheels, you're not laying
the chair down. So we want to make sure that
everybody is protected from a choking tragedy.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
That first date is over, that's what we're Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
And you know again there is opposition that so Texas
got through their opposition.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
And we But but when it came to a vote,
did you say that one person voted against it?
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yeah, so it doesn't sound I mean, so today's world
of politics, that's pretty dark.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
It was about one thirty four to one.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
That one embarrassed.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
So yeah, that happened in New York too. By the way,
there's always that you're always going to have that one
for whatever whatever reason.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
There is not a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
There's one guy who didn't vote for unbelievable. Yeah, it's
not like that at all.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
There's always there's always the one. But yes, I'm hoping
that I can share with you guys I know you
guys talk a lot about the soccer. I'm I don't
know the first thing about soccer.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I'm sorry, but it's universal.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Yeah, when you identify we're talking soccer, and we talked
about teamwork and the games do count and the philosophy,
and you quickly noticed that, hey, that's like the life acts.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, and it's like any team.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
So the whether the book or we talk about examples
less life lessons. If it's volleyball, water polo, ping pong,
let's forget about ping pong, because that's different. Now it
is it is really universal. It's it's life lessons. And
if we had time to listen to CJ's story about
place kicking, certainly football and coaching that that you know,
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the lessons that he learned are you know, universal, and
it doesn't matter the sport, doesn't matter the gender. It
is just a great life lesson. And speaking of CJ. Douglas,
I want to welcome him tonight. I believe we have him.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
In the arena. We didn't.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
How why are you I CJ? And this is Colonel
Christopher Douglas Marine, Sorry but we don't. We may have
an audio problem. Are you on mute? Sir, So for
those of you listening at home, we're encountering an audio problem.
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My name is Rick Thatcher. Along with only Lebate, Patrick
O'Rourke and guys, we've been talking about equal first aid
and the legislative win or potential legislative win not only
in Texas, but.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
You're coming up to eleven other states and New York.
Speaker 9 (39:13):
Yeah, he is.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
We're actually getting notes from c J and it says
something about out of Okay, Well, CJ, you know what,
let's connect with you. If we can't forget, Yeah, we
will just take your.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Word for it.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
About what we were going to talk about is our
trip to Washington. And let's just use general terms because
we don't want to get into specifics. I know, Arthur,
we went down to meet with the VA. We went
down to meet with the patent office. That's certainly important.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Ice. Yes, you know Timmy Van Patten very yes, yes, yes,
he has the whole office. Yes.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Would you be surprised if you walk into the patent
office and Timmy Van Patten was running the show?
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Timmy is actually younger than his uncle's, I mean older
than his uncles. Wow, you know Vince van Patten.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
That's sure. He's like, it is enough.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Now we're going way back, but it is enough. I
don't remember the theme song, but I think Lisa Warner.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Does the father. The father on is Enough was Tim
Timmy's older brother, Jack Van Patten. Yeah, it was Timmy's
older brother.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
Yes, so Timmy had uncles or he had nephews that
were older than him.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Yeah, you know what as as we as we I
think we call vamp vapor or stretching and the in Hollywood,
CJ just yell out if you if we figure out.
Bobby and c J are working on audio problems diligently
or fervently.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
But we were talking about the patent off in de Yeah,
a big week.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah, And what we promised before we left was Arthur
was adamant about this show, being called a man in
the arena talking about arena topics and and what we're
doing and not just you know, saying this is what
we're gonna do, and and not being accountable, not going
back to report and updates. Now we have more work
to do. Certainly, they were very impressed that the VA
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office and let's let's you know, Arthur wanted to know
who we were meeting. We were meeting with the highest
levels of our VA. Listen, we have Heidi, Yeah, no question,
Brian Killmead CJ. Douglas have opened the door knocking, and
Life Act's got a great story. Listen, if we went
in there with I don't know, big League jew gum
or you know, a horrible mouse trap, it would be Hey,
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thank guys, thanks for coming, or you know, don't bother.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
It's nice. But you know, they're interested in the story.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
They're interested in protecting the veterans, and like we said before,
the their hearts are in the right place. There's a
there's a unity of compassion and willingness to do the
right thing, not only veterans, but uh, you know everyone
that's involved in the facilities, because we're protecting the staff
as well. So in the meantime, Heidi Felix, who is
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down in Washington right now now fighting the good fight
in other areas, has been doing incredible work with Orlando,
with California, the SIM Lab, and we just have a
new we're gonna be talking with mister three thousand, yes
hopefully God willing. You know, we're gonna have a new
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details of a new save from a VA so it's
very timely, very well.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
We have, CJJ. Did we clear it up? Hey?
Speaker 10 (42:27):
Rick, pat may like a cave man with a chainsaw here,
so help me a little bit to get that resolved.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
It's like the doors break on through. We got a
break on through to the other side.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Just like he's off, keep going, here we go. So CJ,
we were talking.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
I was starting at sputtering out sentence fragments talking about
our trip to the VA. What was your recollection? And
I know that we have more work to do, we're
going back down, but what do you think of our
first venue or a versus venture down to DC.
Speaker 10 (42:59):
I thought it was pretty deductive. One of the things
that really impressed me was the professionalism of the VA staff. Now,
you know, as a as a veteran, you know, of
course I'm I'm critical. I've had very good experiences with
the veterans administration, but this really showed leadership counts. You know,
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so when you talk about the games do count you
know at some point like kind of like to dig
into you know, Doug Collins's chief of staff, and you know,
the the other staff members that we engage with. You know,
everybody was professional, empathetic, polite. I mean, it was just
just a really good atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah, from the moment we arrived, the greeting of the door.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Half hour early, like we were early, this nice young
lady was down there waiting for us, and we you know,
for a moment we thought, gosh, you're we late.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
No, she's just down here in the case.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
We showed up early and the portfolio and everyone coming
in and uh, I laughed, We laughed collectively about the uh.
The excuse that sometimes reps or representatives from companies get
is you know, doctor has an emergency, That's what I'm
used to, but they have the White House, get out
of jail. So if we were boring or rude in
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any way, they had there emergency at the White we
go to the White House, which was by the way,
about two hundred yards away, right.
Speaker 10 (44:28):
You can, yes, definitely, Uh.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Yeah, so we yeah, yeah, no more, no more dead cats.
Speaker 8 (44:37):
Right.
Speaker 10 (44:38):
Well, I was trying to steer clear of that reference
since we were on the air and not just in
the in the circle of trust.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Yeah, we do not want to We do not want
to anger the pedo folks. We have enough people that
you know, come out, so there'll be no swinging of Benny.
Speaker 10 (44:53):
No, there will be no swing. No cats will be
harmed in the in the course.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Exactly, but we're excited for the trip down.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yes, have we tried light back on cats work? That's true,
it has worked on cats. We got nine lives, a
couple of dogs, a couple of cats. Even technically you
don't need to use it. Yeah, not technically, I think too.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
Dogs.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Wait really, yes, it's they've done it on two dogs
that work. Yes, I was kidding. Yeah, now I really
dig it all right? Yeah, go life back with bets.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
And I'm sure donnay Eisley is at home and was
communicating with mister two thousand raight previ as we speak
on the exact number for pets if she's with us.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
But Donna returning, Thank goodness your return. I'm just a
maginate that's out from Europe.
Speaker 10 (45:38):
Yeah, I'm not sure this is going to be happy
about this line. And the discussion is I break out
the trainer and put it over his mugg.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Is Travis in the building.
Speaker 10 (45:51):
He walked out as soon as uh started hearing the
conversation started. I don't like how this is going. I
might wind up with a life back on my face.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Yeah, but CJ, we wish we had more time. We
are excited about the follow up visit and let's look
forward to making that happen.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
We're coming back.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
You are beauty, okay, yep, So we we thank you
CJ each and every week. We are, you know, fortunate
to speak to have a joke night.
Speaker 8 (46:24):
Thank you for your service.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Note and we will.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
See you along the way and we'll be back with more.
The Man in the arena right after these messages, right
after this.
Speaker 11 (46:46):
Protect your family by Life Back Now. That was us
over ten years ago.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Now Life Back is responsible for saving over four thousand
lives from choking and the.
Speaker 11 (46:56):
Time it takes you to pick up the phone and
call another life could be saved.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
A life acts saved my life in one two seconds.
Speaker 11 (47:03):
Protecting families has always been our mission. I'm sure you
love your family like I love my daughter. Do a
soulo favor and get your own life back now.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
Go to life fact dot net or call eight seven
seven Life Fact order now.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
Jackie code Jackie. Yeah, Hey, listen, let's get a plugin.
By the way, welcome back to the Man in the Arena.
We're talking about the man in the arena we're talking
about women in the arena. We're talking about life Fact
and we're talking about the website lifefact dot net. Go
to life fact dot net. Protect those you love and
use the code. Well, you can use Jackie, but you
could also why not use m t A. Let's have
(47:41):
a comparison of the discounts. It might be the same,
might be a little different, but it's not Jackie. But
you can get a Life Act protect those you love.
You could also get the game I'm not the games
you count? Sorry, can't is a lie. Pretty soon there's
going to be in a new form and we're so
incredibly excited.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
I have one of the originals new cover that's going
to be collector's item. Yes, you can.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Feel free to reach out to me if you're in California, Texas, Florida,
New York and you want to reach out to me
personally and complain, why not the family does R thatcher
R F A T S C H E R at
life BAC dot net. Air you a grievances. I'm willing
to listen the number Hey six three one six seven
(48:23):
one seven zero seven nine and we are blessed. Every
week we talk about great saves. We talk about great legislation.
Tony Lebate from Equal First Aid, we can't say enough
great things about this woman.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Yeah, thank you? What did I say?
Speaker 5 (48:37):
No?
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Yeah, Equal First agh y E f A.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
I'd like to add my phone number if that's okay.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Before absolutely so, folks.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
If anybody would like to text me if you're willing
to volunteer or get legislation in your state, or just
to just to start the process, I'm ready to go.
So it's six three one eight seven three zero nine
zero seven. I will get back to you immediately and
we can hopefully get something going in your state.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
Awesome, joined forces eleven states by yourself.
Speaker 5 (49:07):
You know she's dedicated to the cause when she's giving
her cell number over the.
Speaker 4 (49:10):
Air, well, that's the Famondora's box. Oh okay, that's the
work number. Good good, Yeah, I learned my lesson.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
Well, we've blown through four thousand lives save the celebration
forty different countries. More than four thousand. Those are just
that are reported. But each week we're blessed to speak
to mister three thousand, mister Ray preby Cape Quarrel, Florida.
Raymond Ray, do you ever get tired of listening or
(49:46):
seeing that animation.
Speaker 9 (49:49):
No, absolutely not. I love it. The the precision that
went into that is absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Yeah, and people recognize you on the street. They absolutely
all right, I got a number in my head, I
got my guess.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
Oh, so Pat Tonight has taken it upon himself to
have a guess as to what the final number is
going to be. But first of all, how have you
been Ray? This is the first time in a long
time since you started making appearances, and the warners are
nodding as I to say this.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
I'll get to. My point is that we haven't seen
you in a while.
Speaker 9 (50:21):
It's it's been several weeks. And let me tell you,
I have gone through some some serious withdrawals from seeing
you guys.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
And have you gotten through you know? I don't know.
Speaker 9 (50:32):
I don't know how I made it through. But you know,
hope is what got me through for the next show.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
Hope. I'm here, beautiful and we're so blessed to have you.
Speaker 9 (50:42):
I love being here. So, Pat, you got a guess?
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Do you? I wrote it down. I don't want to
ruin it, but yeah, I wrote it down. I'll let
you know what and everyone can.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
See how would you like it, Ray, would you like
him to reveal it to you or would you rather
wait and see?
Speaker 9 (50:53):
You know, I'm gonna go hide and wait. I'm gonna
go ahead and reveal the number and we'll Christmas morning.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
You're a Christmas Morning type of guy, exactly.
Speaker 9 (51:02):
Absolutely. And for those who are just signing on, my
name is Ray Prieby from Cape Coral, Florida. I am
mister three thousand. Look at that. That's my little girl
right there.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
Little those listening, you're seeing a beautiful young lady, Maya
pri Bee who Ray her dad saved on this Florida
Highway with life act and such an emotional story and
we love hearing it.
Speaker 9 (51:28):
And it was number three thousand, Yeah, number three thousand,
and here I am still trucking along with you guys.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
Yeah, we're blessed.
Speaker 9 (51:36):
Absolutely, So without further ado, here we go. We are
at a total on this wonderful day of four thousand,
one hundred forty three saves.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
That was a little low. I was wow, forty one.
A lot of people choking.
Speaker 12 (51:54):
Out there, A lot of saves out there, a lot
of saves, and my my little girl was saved on
October twentieth of twenty twenty four, just last year, two
hundred and twenty eight days ago, as a matter of fact,
and we have one thousand, one hundred forty three saves
two hundred and twenty eight days.
Speaker 9 (52:16):
So again, it's just absolutely unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (52:20):
So I was impressed not only with the numbers each
week and the presentation, but there was a special one.
Given our discussion about the VA on the national scale
and all the great work that Heidi Felix has been
doing in Orlando, in California, New Hampshire has gotten themselves
into the mix, and we're surprised to know that it
(52:42):
was there in the first place.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
But Ray, do you have any details? I do.
Speaker 9 (52:46):
As a matter of fact, the highlight of the week
comes from New Hampshire VA Medical Center where a sixty
seven year old male choked on food causing a total
obstruction took place in the community living center. Call was following.
Life back was used two times. The patient received medical
attention after and no complications were found. After the nursing
(53:11):
staff identified backlows were attempted, the Heimlich was tried. After
those failed, the life back was deployed. Our young nurse
used it and saved the patient.
Speaker 3 (53:24):
Hard to argue with those when you hear the account
and when you collect the data and you read it,
it's hard to argue with the effectiveness. And we stand
behind standard you know, trying standard protocols, but they don't
always work, as evidenced here and in so many other cases.
Speaker 9 (53:42):
Which I can attest for because number three thousand, guess
what backblows in the Heimlich did not work on my
several several attempts. Uh if it if it wasn't for
the Life Back, she wouldn't be here.
Speaker 5 (53:53):
Wow, we hear these every week. It's it's always the same.
I mean, it's amazing. You know what we did the
heim League.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
We did this.
Speaker 5 (53:59):
We did that than two or three pops with the
Life backing boom. Yeah, amazing.
Speaker 9 (54:04):
I mean just I mean since our last show May
fifteenth to June sixth, today, ninety saves, ninety saves in
those couple of weeks right there. Three saves just today alone.
So again it's the proof is in the pudding. You know,
the numbers don't lie.
Speaker 5 (54:21):
Life Back works and it's not even dinner time for
most of the country, so it could be more today,
it could be more.
Speaker 9 (54:27):
Today could be more today.
Speaker 3 (54:29):
Ray, you have a wonderful saying that we'd love to hear.
Speaker 9 (54:33):
I do. I do have a little wonderful saying. As
a matter of fact, life back far better to have
it and never need it than need it and not
have it. The life you saved could be your own.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
Love it. Yes, sir, that's fantastic. And you know I
was thinking about well as you.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
Talked about the details of the save in a va
in a state that we were not aware of. I'm
reminded of the size of our company, the size of
the as compared to the size of the mission, and
why c J, myself, Arthur Lee went down to Washington
to meet with the very top so that all of
this work that's being done by pioneers can just be
(55:12):
it can be sped up so that we're not you know,
going individually to all these different places and working with people,
and those folks are just as passionate about it as
as the team at Life Act is. So we appreciate
you so much sharing that story with us tonight and
all the other stories.
Speaker 1 (55:27):
Mister three thousand, We love you.
Speaker 9 (55:30):
Love you guys, God bless other glady.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
All right, And that's what a great show.
Speaker 3 (55:36):
We talked to Larry Sunderland, we talked to Tony Lebate,
and we always talked to mister three thousand.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
But great news all around.
Speaker 3 (55:43):
Uh, we're taking Washington, we're taking Texas, We're taking those
eleven other states. And Tony, thank you so much for
all the Thank you for not sleep until the.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
End of June.
Speaker 4 (55:52):
June twenty second, hopefully when it's you guys have the
soccer game. As we were talking about soccer earlier on
June twenty.
Speaker 1 (55:59):
Fourth, we'll be there. I will be there and I
will find you with my T shirt.
Speaker 4 (56:03):
That's what I wanted to say. Guess what, I'm going
to supply my own T shirts that you guys can shoot. Awesome,
So we have we're working on those.
Speaker 1 (56:12):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (56:12):
Well, we thank you so much for joining us. We'll
see you next week. We'll see you, we'll hear you.
We'll hear each other next week. On The Man in
the Arena Micro take it Away.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
It's no joke.
Speaker 2 (56:26):
When you choke Toad, Life Back and without breath, they'll
be death Cigat Life Back and Live Back and Life
Bae Back, Life Back and Life Back and
Speaker 9 (57:03):
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