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June 12, 2025 • 55 mins
In the Arena - Show 44. Brought to you by LifeVac. Hosted by Rick Fatscher. With special guests. Be sure to catch Mr. 3000, Ray Priebe, with news on the latest lives saved. The Man in the Arena airs live @ 6:30pm EST every Thursday night from Paradise Studios NY via the STRONGISLAND.COM Entertainment Network.

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
It's no joke.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
When you choke Cigad life back and without breath, they'll
be death Cigad life back and gad life back.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
And live back, life Back and.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Gosh. I hope our audience is listening to the golden
tones of Micro singing the Life Fact song as we
go out Nichewide on the fastest growing podcast in America,
The Man in the Arena.

Speaker 5 (00:34):
Thinking about Micro and his buddy Chuck. Yeah, they're as
nice as they see. Yes, you know, And I love
that because a lot of times, you know, you have
this vision of someone and they really are the real
deals right behind the curtain.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
This they're the best. Hey everyone, Live Fact Nation. My
name is Rick Thatcher along with Arthur Lee, CEO and
inventor of life Back. And this is the Man in
the Arena the air brought to you by Live Fact,
the airway clear device that has saved over four thousand
lives in close to thirty two countries. Not close to
it's over thirty two countries. Go to lifefact dot get

(01:08):
the original authentic Life Fact and use code m.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
I A Yeah Man is growing podcast in America now playing.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
In well Allentown, PA. We've been in La we're in Houston, Orlando,
San Diego, Dallas, and New York, let's not forget you.
A lot of things going on, and of course Allentown, PA.

Speaker 5 (01:28):
But that's cool and you can listen to the arena
is growing. That's what people need.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Right now, fastest growing podcast in America.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
They need regular people talking about what challenges and how
to overcome them in real life stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Well, you know what we've talked about the last couple
of weeks, and we'll touch on it tonight, which is
our trip and our ventures down to watching which is ongoing,
but we'll talk about that. But I have a little
surprise for you, Arthur. No, yeah, I'm gonna surprise you
because ordinarily you're used to at the end of the show,
we go to Ray Preby and he cleans it up,
love it, just take that he takes us home. But tonight,

(02:02):
in the of just a big surprise for you, Ray Preby,
mister three thousand, and we're going to explain why he's
called mister three thousand, because if you're new to the show,
it's quite a story.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
It is.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Indeed, Well, no further ado, mister three thousand. Ray Privy
from Cape Carl Florida.

Speaker 6 (02:20):
There he is.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
What's up?

Speaker 6 (02:24):
Ray, Hey, good afternoon, everybody, come to you live from
Fort Myers, Florida. How's it was the men in the
arena today?

Speaker 5 (02:32):
Oh man, great, But it's nice to have you on
in the first because that will know all the stats.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
A little difference, a little different. So I'm learning. We
learned something new every day. So Cape Coral is the
home of the previews. The workplace which you're calling in
from now is in Fort Myers pretty close.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
He's quite about town.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Well you sound great. You sound great right now, we
call yep.

Speaker 7 (02:58):
I've been a.

Speaker 6 (02:59):
Great It's better than the face on TV.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
I can tell you that face for radio.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Well, listen, we were introduced to you with the news
report of you when you saved your precious daughter Maya
on the side of a Florida highway and it was
the three thousand save, which is why we call you
mister three K. We call her Princess three K. And
we're blessed every week when you come and you give
us all the updates for the statistics about life acting.

(03:26):
You know, you were there obviously for three thousand and
you've been with us ever since. And you just saw
us recently shatter through four thousand lives save worldwide, and
those we should point out are just those that are reported.

Speaker 6 (03:38):
Yeah, just reported right there, just reported. It's funny, you
know for the people listening, they're probably wondering how long
ago was that? So when three thousand, my little miss
three thousand came about, that was October twentieth, twenty twenty four,
two hundred and thirty five days ago. And since then,
we've had the blessing to save one thousand and one

(04:00):
hundred and seventy two people crazy given us a grand
total of four thousand and seventy two saves to date,
forwarded saves to date two thousand, five hundred and fifty
three children.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Dude, we got it.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
We gotta start something. We got to start a five
thousand now ray probably has a good chance of kissing it.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Like if you look at this man, we're and two
pools one five thousand and one, we're two hundred and
twenty five days. We should see I have people pick
a number at three sixty five. It's it's it's amazing,
And you know, it's also amazing that you were three
thousand because you care so much and God, guy, and

(04:41):
you do this to help and try and save more.
So the world is opening up. We're starting to really
win this battle. But we should we'll talk about it,
but we should have a five thousand and what number
that Ray says when it's three sixty five from saving
his daughter?

Speaker 4 (04:58):
Ooh, what's the number? One year out from Ray previous
saving his daughter Maya?

Speaker 5 (05:03):
And also winner gets to go to Ray's house and
take all history clean.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Okay, that's good.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
To take all of raised stuff. That is a bold
That is a contest. I don't think anyone in the
history of radio has ever had such a bold context.
Yeah right, we kid, we kid.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
All right, Ray give us the scoop.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
More than he just gave us.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
He usually gives us super duper cool best save ever thing.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
The highlight, Yeah, the highlight.

Speaker 6 (05:37):
Yeah, I have a great highlight for you guys.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Bring it on.

Speaker 6 (05:44):
On June, a two year old boy from Indiana choked
on a glass marble life that was used twice and
successfully dis lodge the object. Here is part of the
mom's story. We have a marble track toy that all
four kids were playing with upstairs while my husband and
I were sitting at the kitchen table. Suddenly, our ten

(06:06):
year old screamed for us. I couldn't even tell you
what exactly he said, but without thinking I just grabbed
my life back and up the stairs I went. It
was really terrifying experience, and unfortunately all three other boys
were watching this play out. I really thought I was
going to watch him die. But after using the device

(06:29):
several times with back blows in between, the marble came out.
Once they came out, he cried. The next morning, I
messaged some family and friends to let them know what
had happened and give them the link to the device
and encourage them to purchase it if they hadn't already
done right there focus an excellent example of a two

(06:53):
year old that would have been lost if it wasn't
for life.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Back when you read that the relive yours? Does it
happen in your in your being?

Speaker 6 (07:04):
Every sing story that I read, it brings back the
exact moment that it happened for me, well, leaving a
birthday party, driving home, you know, hearing hearing those those words,
that those dreaded words. They're not breathing, not breathing, you know.
And it's literally every story I.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
Read, well, you could relate, you know, like the depth
of the feeling of that they were feeling, you know.
And I think that's the blessing that we have you
do this because there's certainly no way to say, you know,
you don't know what you're talking about. You don't you know,
And that's why you're so passionate and we appreciate it
and that that is some story marble. Man, that's heavy.

(07:48):
So if it's it's going to take something to get
it out.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Yeah, and we talk. We talk often about the amount
of obstructions and with kids, it's not always food. Anything
that you can imagine lying around the house that can
block then airway has removed over. Yeah, it's really amazing
for me. Everyone's a little different. But it's so great
Ray that you join us every week and get beyond

(08:12):
the numbers, because we can talk about dates and numbers,
but until you hear the details and the family and
the community.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
He's been there, he's been He's willing to share this
and and go through it, and it's really impactful and
it saves lives, right, saved lives absolutely.

Speaker 8 (08:31):
And you know, with all the fake products out there,
I will say, as a parent who had to use
the device in the heat of the moment, in the situation,
you know, you you you have.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
To rely on quality, you have to rely on craftsmanship,
and Arthur, you have developed the best, best form of
the device. When when a parent is in the heat
of the moment, they're going to use unnecessary force, They're
going to you know, it's it's chaos. It's so much
stuff happening at one time. If any of those parts

(09:05):
failed during the use of the equipment, it's deadly, absolutely
calls death.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
You're listening to mister three thousand. His real name is
Ray Preevy, and he you know, I want to get
back to something you just mentioned. We're talking about Life Act.
We're on the man in the arena, but in the
arena you met. You made a little comment back then
when when we talk about the design of Life BacT,
the simplicity, uh, the engineering, you said that was my dad.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Did I think that?

Speaker 5 (09:36):
Because that's he worked on the space program, and you
know I grew up with him saying, you know, I
can't you know, it's life and death. When you mean
the man's on the moon, he can't go out and
get a spare So his whole being was reliability and
that everything had to work. It had to work, and
just a little kid that was instilled in me.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Yeah, you were about five right when I was.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
It was sixty four, so yeah, five when they first landed. Yeah,
but I remember sitting in front of the TV. And
you know when you five, your father did it. It
was no one else was involved.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Yeah, he went to work and he put the man
on the moon pretty much, and he virtually did. He
was on the team.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Of course, he did everything.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
And we talk about teams and games. Oh, he did everything.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yes, pretty much.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
It's pretty pretty amazing. So you I'm not going to
say channel, but you're a product of your upbringing mom, dad,
and when you you talk about when you developed work,
the device had to work. But also you know you
did that or a need to protect your daughter? What's that?
Do we have to let him go?

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Is he there? Right? Come on, give your give it?
I love, I love when.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Oh gosh, right, I apologize. Let's hear the your catchphrase,
which is sweeping the nation? Ye, bring it on.

Speaker 6 (10:58):
This is pat and this is this is mice logan.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Copy right look express written consent of ray pre be
needed to utter this phrase and uh we have it,
I think, but go ahead, Ray, folks.

Speaker 6 (11:10):
Life back. Far better to have it and never need
it than need it and not have it. The life
you could say, could be your own.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
God bless hey, God bless you, buddy, and thank you
as always for being the man that missed the three
thousand and Uh. I will get in touch when it
come down and hopefully we can get together.

Speaker 6 (11:30):
Sounds good, all right, buddy, you guys loves Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
Good stuff, right, great stuff. Ray. So for everyone listening,
whether you're in California, Texas, Orlando, uh or we'll call
it Florida because I was just going with States and
New York, you're listening to the gentleman, mister three thousand,
Ray Preby, and we thank you so much as always,
Ray for joining us on the show. He is, he

(11:57):
is beyond.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
Cool, beautiful family. We were blessed it. He was the
three thousands.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
And we know who four thousand is. I wonder who
five thousand is going to be.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
Well, that's why I was kind of thinking, and now
that we're all over the place, we should start a contest,
you know. And it's a you know, it's cool to
look forward like you're a lootle key. You look forward
to Christmas. I look forward to five thousand saves, and
we neat to get people to make their prediction. And
you know, we'll give something away, and you like to

(12:26):
give stuff away.

Speaker 7 (12:27):
I do.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
I am historic with that.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Give her, give her now. I think about the team,
the small passionate team that follows your lead when you
develop this device. I was about to get on before
we had say goodbye to Ray, So I'll get back
to who on the team is going to be charged
with this. I'm just thinking who would be charged with
the contests? Because donnae Eisley does such a great job,

(12:51):
and she listens to every show and she provides, and
she's the keeper of all the data and the saves.
She has an inside track, she has an algorithm, no
going out, but she would be more than gracious enough
to run the contest.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Got it right?

Speaker 4 (13:08):
And she's inside track place?

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Who had it in our place? Laura?

Speaker 4 (13:12):
I'm not sure We'll have to ask Donna was it?

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Lenny? What'd you guess? All right? The old studio audience
doesn't even know what they guessed.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
So here's the thing. When we go back to the
story of you know you give credit to dad. But
the passion and the reasoning behind the thought and the
drive to produce life BacT was to protect your daughter,
who's seven at the time, is kind of kind of
growing up.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Well, the uh yeah, the.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
You know, the accident, my accident really is deep in
anyone that's had a horrible tragedy, you know, having your
best friend who's young one second and gone the next.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
You don't want anyone to feel that. Now.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
I didn't get to that stage in my brain. I
knew that feeling from the accident from my daughter. So
that's it. I got a savor. That's it.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
You know who knew I didn't.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
I thought that the procedures worked, the policy right behind
like backpose kids already, you know, it says right there
until the object comes out right.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
And just for a refresher, Arthur Lee visiting a dear
friend in the hospital, because that's what friends do, that's
what wing men do. Sorry, can't just al that the
book and you learn of a seven year old dies
in a hospital setting with all of the procedures, all
of the technology, I mean, but it happens. Yeah, that's
why five thousand people year die of accidental choking, fourth

(14:40):
leading cause of accidental death, and thanks to Arthur Lee
and the Life Act, it does not need to happen.
I think for the first time in history, an accidental
cause of death is going to be eliminated.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
Well that's how I get chills about the Texas situation,
you know, and that we the light thirteen years, but
the light is at the end of the tunnel, and
it really starts to bring to light the significance of
what we've done and what we're doing right.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
I started thirteen years ago. Over one hundred.

Speaker 5 (15:09):
Kids I've choked to death in school since I started,
right and we were on the verge again in the
mandate in Texas, and I read that and I was excited.
And the next day there was a lawsuit and death
in Illinois and it kind of I know, it's God
put me in You got more work to do, right,

(15:31):
And that's fine, that's what he needs to do. But
the reality is where the beginning of the end, there's
going to come a time and the quicker people realize
how dangerous it is in our school where they're eating
quick and I'm little windpipes and making each other laugh.
It never happens again. How amazing would that one hundred

(15:52):
kids since I started, so perished. Yeah, and it's you know,
and it's a kind of a uh a little.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
For those keeping score. That's the first of the night.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (16:03):
I think?

Speaker 1 (16:04):
So that's very useful though it.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Cuts through, it explains it.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
I think our generation in particular gets it.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Our country has got a large dog going on right now.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
I have a lot of dug going on.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
But the ability for it to not exist is at hand.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
Right, So what's what was the impetus protection? But let's
talk a little bit about it, and then we're going
to have a break coming up. The protect your daughter.
You have the device and you have it in hand,
and you were able to say, Jackie, my daughters. I'm
not violating any hip of violation, I hope, but your

(16:46):
family's protected. Now what now, what's the next step in
terms of making this a business?

Speaker 5 (16:52):
It's a big guy. When you survive the problem. When
you I survived two of my friends didn't you were
here to watch that devastation. You see yourself, your family,
their families, brothers, sisters, are friends. So I was I
got to experience what happens for the person who lives right.

(17:15):
So when I knew she was safe, so I wouldn't
feel that now do I live when I know your
kid died and now I know how horrible your life
is for the.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Rest of your life.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
So it really was driven by that empathy to say,
I don't want you to feel that way. Look at
other people like Mavericks and the Maddoxes and the Brugman's
and the people that are have experienced Yeah, yeah, oh
my god. They don't want people to feel it.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
And they're working diligently to this situation as I don't
want you to know what I feel.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
That's a hero, that's someone's in the battle, blood and
sweat that says I have took the hit.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
I don't want you to Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
You're listening to Arthur Lee, CEO and inventor of life Fact,
now saved over four thousand lives in over thirty countries.
And we're going to be back with more with Arthur.
My name is Rick Thatcher, and we're back with more
of the man in the arena after this break. Hi.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
I'm Arthur Lee, CEO, an inventor of life Fact, a
simple choking rescue device that thirteen years ago was made
my garage to protect my.

Speaker 7 (18:41):
Daughter now all of these lives have been saved thanks
to Life Back, over four thousand lives and over two
thousand kids. But still a child dies every five days
from joking.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
Please, our family is everything to us. Consider protecting your
family in a choking emergency with Life back.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Go to life today. Thanks dad, Bobby did that?

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Wow? Thanks Dad? I just love that.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
Jackie Radio People. That's a commerc Yeah, looks up at
me and it means the world to me.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
Yeah. So you mentioned radio people podcast people you're listening
to iHeart Radio's Man in the Arena also heard in
La Houston, Orlando, San Diego, Dallas, New York, and Allentown,
PA for good measure. And before the break we were
talking about, you know, some of the inspiration and the
the guts the determination that you know, I guess got

(19:36):
you to really rely on the Man in the Arena phrase.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
Well, the funny thing is been on my desk my
whole life.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
That's saying. So did your father share the Man in
the Arena with you? Wow?

Speaker 6 (19:48):
Well?

Speaker 5 (19:49):
Yeah, Well one that was surviving the accident to you know,
starting a business. You know that I started my first
business because of that. Wow, Because when I was thinking
of doing it, and I was approached to take over
the New York franchise. I said, if I don't do it,
I'm going to look back and say I could have tried,

(20:09):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
You know. That's what it's about. Try.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
You know, if you felt but at least you tried,
you don't have to look back some day and say, oh,
you know. And the premise to Life Act was, you know,
it wasn't over. This were successful. We built it and
taught me a ton of things, but it also took
a little some of the fear away from doing it.
I'm going to try. Now, this was ridiculous because the

(20:35):
medical product and pay review and FDA nothing I knew
anything about. But it was more significant in its purpose.
So it was I will make it up and give
it all I got. I'll be the man in arena.
But that's what this story is about. The other people,
like we were talking that, you know, the Hockbrys, and

(20:55):
then those people are in the arena, you know. So
that's hopefully the backbone of the show. And if you're
listening and you have a man in the Arena story,
contact us, Yeah, for goodness sakes, or don't want what
we don't want Yes, I believe that those guys are smart.
Thank you very much. You know what did you do,

(21:15):
what did you feel, what did you face? And had
you come out of it?

Speaker 4 (21:19):
Yeah, we want to talk to people. We want to
talk to similar people in their own arenas. We happen
to be dealing in the arena of first aid and
choking emergencies, but people like share common causes or common concerns.
Do you have?

Speaker 1 (21:35):
So we talked about the book.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
That book, Yeah, Molly, my book is kind of the
in the arena stories that make us who we are?
Right throwing a rocket and the kidnead it's a bad
thing you learned that, But at the point of the matter.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
Is a great example from the book.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
Those are in the arena's stories. And then if you
whoever you are, if you're driving and whatever, you retrospectively
say what makes me who I am? You're going to
find those stories, right, whether it's your parents, your friends,
a movie. And so the book is kind of documenting
the man the arena, bits and pieces that make up
who you are. We are who we are based on

(22:14):
our circumstances. And then it backs into the fact that
you could they could make you better or worse right,
there's no real It's.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Like when Yogi Berra said, when you come to a
fork in the road, you take. But you know you
mentioned the book and we're talking about Sorry, can't is
Alie the book by Arthur Lee, and you go to
life Act dot net. While you're there, why not get
the original life Fact device that has now saved over
four thousand lives. And that's just those that are been reported.

(22:46):
We know from Ryan Warner road Show. Ryan is out
in Costco and just just in individual Costcos an amazing
amount of anecdotal stories people said crazy, haven't reported it.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
Crazy story with the guy driving down to the hospital
taking story trumps out and saves the life as Lada
goes in his baby.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
And that was because Ryan told him how to do it.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Amazing the training that he got.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
People out there.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
You'll have to listen to more story. There's more stories.
But go to life Act dot net. I say that
because you want to get the books. Sorry can'tes a lie,
and you want to get the original life fact use
code while you're there, So Life Fact dot Net, Life
Act dot com use code m I t A guess
what that stands for? A man in the arena again

(23:35):
Rick Fascher along with Arthur Lee.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
Talking about man the arena. Did you on the I
was in here? I don't think last show did you
talk about our trip to DC?

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Boy? Did we talk about the trip to DC? And
we didn't talk about it in its entirety because in
two days we visited several different departments. We certainly talked
about our visit with the Veterans Administration. Good And I
know that you weren't able to join us last week,
but you had met with the Patent Office, you met
with Apartment of Justice, Customs, customs, and.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
There's more a ton of progress.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Well that's how you know, that's how Washington seems to work.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
And I thought, it's not my cup of tea, it's
not my something's wrong to fix it? And you know,
but look on the gentler side, we did get some feedback,
we did get some direction, and uh, you know, we'll
we'll follow those. Not much help at the patent office,

(24:33):
you know, I we didn't have the Uh it was
an initial meeting to say, why did you give my
patent to the Chinese guy?

Speaker 1 (24:41):
That might have been a little aggressive, so we were.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
But it was interesting because it was almost sheepish, right,
like we kind of know there's an issue here, you know.
And then they started talking about all these other things,
and I didn't have thoughts say, well, they won't work
either because they just ignore everything. But very nice people,
very dedicated, and they did help us with a contact

(25:09):
at the FDA. So that was that was all right?
You know you so.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
Backing up to the FDA, or when you mentioned the FDA,
there's already another reason for the FDA to be dealing
and paying attention to life back and now they get it.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
In this case, it was the you think about it,
if they can copy our patent, but they still would
have to be compliant with the FDA.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
And be registered.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
They have to be well more than that, yes, they
had to register. They have to be compliant. They have
to buy by regulations for marketing and they don't have
to buy by any rules, which is really nice, except
you know it's wrong and people die because they make junk.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
But whenever good.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
That was good. They gave us a contact and that
was fine. Apartment of Justice, supposedly the person that could
help fight these illegal mincoos wasn't there. They did commit
to doing a public service announcement on the knockoffs and
the daycare.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Be nice. They did that, so we'll see.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Is going to be a generalized warning about knockoffs or
in particular airway clearance devices?

Speaker 2 (26:24):
No?

Speaker 5 (26:25):
Yeah, wow, yeah, great, Well do you have it when
it happens?

Speaker 4 (26:29):
When did we go? We went on May fourteenth, So
I don't have it yet. Well let's well then, yeah,
things take time. So I was part of the contingent,
the team that met with the VA, and I was
very encouraged, not only and I said this before about

(26:51):
the general atmosphere in general in Washington being I feel
much more optimistic about the way things are going and
the way how people talk and the action that's going
to be taken. We know that everything in Washington takes forever,
and not the way you like it, of course, because

(27:13):
it seems like, you know, the lean organization that is
life back out in Wisconsin, New York decisions are made
in a day.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
I guess I have a bigger problem with priorities, meaning
you know, this, what we what we've done, what does
second third? But this is people's lives, kids lives, sections lives,
So you know, we we need to have a system
that is conscious enough to go, Yeah, kids dying is
up there on the list of things we should probably,

(27:42):
you know, get to.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
Cliche when is it? When is it? You know, what number?
Does it make it significant? One makes it?

Speaker 5 (27:52):
I mean, and this is this is not this hundreds
hundreds kids died. Cool, so frustrating, but will persevere, will
update people. So we got another FD contact and we
got the department just supposedly putting out a warning. Right,
So that's good. We'll go from there. And you know,

(28:13):
but part of the man in arena is accountability, right.
That's why I said, how long has it been? That's
what they said they're going to do, right, So if
we continue and we just have to do this, and
that's what man Maren's about. I went there, we went that,
we walked in. They told us that yeah, I'm not
saying and today the border has been and the the But.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
At the same time, we celebrate a huge win. We
talked about our trip to Washington, but we also had
Tony Lebate on from Equal First Aid, who is celebrating
a near win. We have to wait for a governor's signature,
but a huge, huge win in the state of Texas,
and there are eleven other states that could follow suit.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
Yeah, but think out duh, this is so Yeah, the
American request recommends it if protocol is incorrect, I mean
doesn't work, doesn't work where is not feasible, Yes, it
is not feasible. That means our children in wheelchairs are
guessing wheelchairs or or parents are our staff, they don't
have anything. So the that's against law. That's an eighty

(29:16):
eight violation. But more importantly than everyone has second chance
part of the Red Cross recommendation.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
Right, So do you think do you think the fact
that it took forty five years for them to make
an update is that people are surprised to hear that's
thirteen Yeah, that no, that it's oh my goodness that
it is in there, because it's they're just so used
to saying they don't endorse the product. They don't, they
don't stand behind it, they don't, they don't say anything

(29:44):
about it. But they also basically say you're on your own. Well,
we don't have a plan.

Speaker 6 (29:49):
You know.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
The equal first aide mission is as clear and as
simple as it gets. They need something right, And I've
told this story probably on this show with a woman
whose son and down syndrome him. He was a big kid.
He cried in my arms and said, this was my
biggest fear. I knew I couldn't do anything like imagine
having your child knowing you cannot even do it.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
He choked.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
You just watch him and down.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Get him around, couldn't get him out of the chair.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
Higher risk, right, Oh yeah, absolutely no doubt. And he
actually had down single mansarble palsy. So he was a
major choking, beautiful kid, but he was big and I
felt her, felt her. The relief guys said that today,
he said that today his son and autism, and he
said he was I don't know if you saw any

(30:33):
kind of sneak one to him and give it to him.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
I did.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
So it was that in the breakout room, and we're
going to talk about what we're referring to this.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Morning or why should they know what we're talking about?

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Yeah, I think it's important.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
I think isn't it what you're supposed to do? Isn't
it important for supposed to?

Speaker 4 (30:51):
Yeah, paint the picture. So this morning, this very morning,
not when you're listening to this, but we're on a
here on a Thursday, you were with Joe Pisko Po
comedy legend. But we were also with a group of pastors.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
How cool was that?

Speaker 4 (31:04):
It was fantastic to have that many people of God
in one room, all like intrigued. And they were nurses
that were part of the church. There were doctors that
were part of the church, pas nps and just clergy
who care about their flock and wanted they were interested.
Most of them, thanks to Laura and the marketing team,

(31:27):
were familiar with life back It wasn't like back there
in twenty fifteen and sixteen where what's that tell me
about it? There was a lot of name recognition.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
But I think what was it the Pastor's Appreciation.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Book on right?

Speaker 5 (31:41):
Yes, and Webinezer, Yeah, but that's Scrooge. Though it was weird,
I get that, but it wasn't Aura. It was definitely
an aura. And you know, there was two things. One
the people were very dressed, were very formal extent, but
not formal, like just very well taken.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Care of and respect.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
Different energy.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
And the other thing, I know, so it was a
lot of color, like the women wore a lot of color.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
It was red.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
It was such a good atmosphere and I think we
were the only white people.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
It was pretty close. And I didn't and I didn't
even think that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
It was so cool.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
Yes, I didn't even.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
Think about it till I was home and I was
thinking about I don't know what I was thinking about.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
Us were color, we should be, Well, that's how it
should be.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
But the warr was so.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
Cool and everyone was so polite and and you know,
and when I told when I did my little speech,
I felt so comfortable talking about the god Winks and
his influence in our direction. Like not that I'm not,
but it was so embraced, like they you you would
have loved it. They were such good people, and they

(32:54):
by a studio audience. It's backed in here, the guy
in the back of the right. But it was that
felt really good and it was a great atmosphere.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
And obviously Joe.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
How great is it visit with Joe Piscopo, who's the
new book? Average? Joe? Forget for a Moment, all of
the great appearances on Sara Live, Forget for a Moment,
Johnny Dangerously and what was the other one with Danny DeVito? Yeah, mister,
what is that wrong? Guys the right guys, the wrong guys.
We should we should get our statisticians. Bobby. No, we

(33:30):
can't put Bobby on that. But anyway, you're listening to
wise guys. Excellent. My name is Rick Facher. You're listening
to the Man in the Arena, a show brought to
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(33:52):
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(34:14):
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(34:37):
us know you're out there, let us know you're hearing
about the live back message, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll
give it again at the end of the show. Right,
but uh wow, uh yeah, we're gonna We're gonna go
for a quick break and we'll be back with more
of the Man in the Arena after this brief message.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
Hi, I'm Arthur Lee, CEO, an inventor of life Back,
a simple choking rescue device that thirteen years ago was
made my garage to protect my daughter.

Speaker 7 (35:20):
Now all of these lives have been saved thanks to
Life Back, over four thousand lives and over two thousand kids.
But still a child dies every five days from joking.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
Please, our family is everything to us. Consider protecting your
family in a choking emergency with life Back. Go to
lifeback dot net today.

Speaker 6 (35:40):
Thanks Dad.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Again. Thanks Dad brings us back from the bank. You're
listening to Arthur Lady's CEO, inventor of Life Back. My
name is Rick Facher. You're listening to the Man in
the Arena, the fastest growing podcast in America. As measured
by our family.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, yes, and the audience and.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Our studio audience. Lenny Warner is here every week, a
more dedicated audience member and friend and wingman.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
Well, they usually had twice this amount of people in
the audience.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Exactly, it's usually doubled. Is there trouble is there's no
trouble about front the thing. So this morning before the break,
we were talking about Joe Pistol.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
Remember I mentioned that Mike Row is nice and as
cool and as real as he is in you know,
he doesn't change that as Joe, and you know, we
we actually become pretty good friends, and we have so
much fun when we do our interviews, you know, and
we shoot off on different subjects, and.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
I think there's more to come from this relationship.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Oh definitely.

Speaker 5 (36:44):
Well, we talked about doing a book signing with his
book and mind Average Joe and how much fun that
would be.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
But here's what's cool for the audience.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
Right, you're growing up, you watch him ye in the movies,
and then as we got to hang out, like he
can tell you stories of what happened when he was
an ongoing when he was young comic waiting online or
and a lot of it's in his book, but you know,
getting to hear it from him, and then you know,

(37:12):
actually being able to like bus his chops and stuff,
like you're scared to bust Joe phisical shops, but.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Then you'd be like, it's fun. He gets it. He
cracks up.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
And he's such a gentle soul that there was a
time that you're absolutely right, I would be afraid to
look at Joe the wrong way because he was pretty hard.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
But see that's what people don't talk about a man
in the arena. At first he was a comic, then
he was like an MC, then he was on Signate Live.
Then he made movies, then he became bodybuilding, then he
became Rado shows. Then he became a you know, a
Frank Sinatra impersonator. And it's not even part he is,
you know, like and his respect for this Sacha family,

(37:55):
Like it came up today and we were talking and
it's one of his stories and he met him and
he he was terrified. That was his dad's idol, that
was his guy, you know, and he says he was
Sinatra was in the chair getting ready and he walks
in and goes, is.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
This guy wacky?

Speaker 5 (38:15):
At home or what it was Sinatra saying that, And
it's just my point is it's cool when guys like
Mink or Joe and Brian are the same.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
They are real behind the signes.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
And Joe, you know, he talks about life back all
the time because he cares and he wants you know,
he doesn't want people to die. So that was a
fun day this and then we had the energy of
these wonderful people that you know, are very soulful, and
it was just a really good morning.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
And we got the word out.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
Yeah from Brooklyn, from Brooklyn to the Gulf Coast of Florida. Yeah,
you've been as always busy man and traveling and the
great work that a lot of life back advocates are
doing down in Florida. So talk about Shane forth Man.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
I just got chilled because they talk about men in
the arena that have made this happen from us and
laying and the guys in the shop my garage. So
Chuck and Shane, they're in Pensacold, Chuck Townsend, get in
their car, they contact Tampa police. They get them to
help us with donation Thrive Penscold and Tampa not a

(39:27):
slow speed I have to mention that they are law enforced.
So they were careful at their high speed. But so
they come all the way. I meet them up in
the night before boom, we're up in the morning. We
go to Tampa Police amazing people. Okay, so they want
to do it. They had a near choking death. The

(39:48):
officers saved them, but it was like, you know, yeah,
two way too close for comfort. So when she contacted them,
they said, yes, we would love those this was too close.
We get it. The chief arranges is a huge press conference.
They the people in Tampa were embracing it, saying, I
saw the comments.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
You know, we love our way to go.

Speaker 5 (40:09):
You know, we need more of that in the situation
we're in. So they six does I.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
Thought it was seven, but we have to have an
official Statisticians always always breaking the chart.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
So the community supporting their police and appreciating them that
they did this, the chief saying, we appreciate because we
don't need them. And now every police car in Tampa
has a unity and.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
Now that needs that story needs to be because I
just don't want to have to make mention of stories
that proliferate and dominate the news cycle. This is the
story that should be concentered on and celebrated, not the
ones where people are hurling things that police cars and
you know, it's just an ugly situation. This is what

(40:59):
life be.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
But part of the ugly situation is we've gotten away
from what's simple. Man in the arena stuff be a
good person, to help your name or be your friends,
you know, and in what after doing it for thirteen
years and doing a lot of Wayne's world when no
one's watching and just banging my head against the wall,

(41:20):
you know, to see seven news stations covering it, to
getting the message out, to getting the community is happy
and grateful that their police are equipping with this and
you know the latest inside edition to police the police
officer use it twice. They saved inn only and just

(41:41):
recently saved another man on the side.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
Of the same woman that's Ackworth, Georgia.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
And I met her when she did the first one.
Who does she do it again?

Speaker 4 (41:49):
Amazing? You have to know that among the four thousand
some odd lives or you know, forty one hundred that
have been saved, there's going to be some. They're all
amazing and they're all miracles for those folks that are
saved those souls that are saved, but some really, I
mean just incredible, Uh you know stories on when the
device was delivered, who gave it to them?

Speaker 5 (42:10):
Yeah, but the you know, the the what I learned
early on was the soul of our officers.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Here's what I mean, Big.

Speaker 5 (42:27):
Texas dude, d big guy bullets bothering me, They're great,
trut at me.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Baby dies in my arms. I'm crushed and might not
regarded to be more.

Speaker 5 (42:41):
Conscious of the human emotional damage that these guys and
men and women have to go up and face, you know,
all the horrible things they have to see. And when
I was out in Ontario, they had a child die
and then they had their officers save a life with
life back and I was able to go get the tour.
Incredible people that came out to Life Save three thousand

(43:05):
and just beautiful dudes. The guy's song was unbelievable, but
it opened my eyes to how we have to understand
what they go through, not just the rocks these idiots
are throwing, but their depth of the social challenge they face.
How much they loved saving that child too.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (43:28):
What what? What was the precinct in California Ontario. That
was That was Ohio. But what I'm struck by is
what I'm struck by is in Texas. It was the
willingness of the police department to promote this save and
share the body cam video and the news and the

(43:50):
detail of Dalton Schroeder, when the rest of the precinct didn't.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Think about.

Speaker 5 (44:00):
The departments that have you know, uh legally and professionally
and made it shared those bodycam videos, those departments, the
saving lives all over the country.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
Yes, I think we'reried by sharing today.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
I mean, I don't even know what we're at for today.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
Get right back on the phone, Ray previous mister three.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Thousand, Yeah, no, wa give five.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
We have five saves today, right like, as we're doing this,
I gotta text five exclamation point another save. It Sinceri
Senior Living and earlier we say the four year old
boy choked on a peach and that's why we're talking
on the radio.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
So five people today, just for the folks that are
tuning into The Man in the Arena once again the
fastest growing podcast in America. Yeah, we're proud of that.
All across the country. People are listening and they may
not have heard this story before, but twenty twelve you
invent Life Act. Twenty sixteen, the first first year that
a life a life was saved with Life Act. And

(44:58):
how many the entire year Arthur was there?

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Six four four?

Speaker 4 (45:02):
Well the first year crazy and just today five. So
it goes to show you the momentum that is one
on our side.

Speaker 5 (45:09):
Oh my god, you sixty three now? Oh my goodness,
happy birthday.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
Yeah we're getting there. Yep, candles there you god. You
listen to Arthur Lee recount the sad story of my
birthday which they're getting away from us. They're getting away
from us. Man in the arena brought to you by
Life Act, the airway clearance device that has saved over
four thousand lives in thirty countries. Go to Life Fact
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(45:38):
Get the original authentic Life Fact and use code MI
I t A for a discount and protecting those you love.
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Speaker 1 (45:55):
Oh it's calling big time man.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
We'll we'll talk more about that. Yeah, we'll talk more
about that on the other side. Well, we'll join you
on the other side with more The Man in the Arena.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
Hi, I'm Martha lee CEO and inventor of life Back,
a simple choking rescue device that thirteen years ago was
made my garage to protect my daughter.

Speaker 7 (46:32):
Now all of these lives have been saved thanks to
life Back, over four thousand lives and over two thousand kids.
But still a child dies every five days from joking.

Speaker 5 (46:42):
Please, our family is everything to us. Consider protecting your
family in a choking emergency with life Back. Go to
lifefack dot net today.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
Thanks Dad, and we're back with more The Man in
the Arena. Before the break, I was stuttering up a storm.
Uh life Fact.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
That's because I mentioned your birthday.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
Oh yeah, I got a little for Klempt. Yeah. So
the man in the arena is this story behind live Facts? Certainly?

Speaker 5 (47:11):
Well, you were saying that my book, sorry, can'tada lie.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
It's a new cover.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
He's what he did.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
So I put it out and to make sure I
didn't want to sell ice to ask them most if
it was good, I said I would go out and
publish it. If people didn't like it, I'd throw it
out and move on. Uh, great reviews, really heartfelt stuff.
So we're going to publish it and you know it's
going to be the real deal. Let me the bookstore
and all that stuff. Picture we just made this, We

(47:39):
just printed it.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
Yeah, but there are some interesting interesting diagrams, like the
original floor plan for your treehouse my dad. Now there's
no footage or actual depiction of the rock throwing. There's
great pictures of you in the the tiger costume and
stuff with you and Jackie. It's one of us pictures
of you and your dad a prom tuxedo that I

(48:04):
Mari your courage. Wow, that's a that's.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
Sometimes call it the cool thing is and the cool
thing is in the one that's going to be out
in Barnes and Noble. We added some stories from my
daughter so she has her kind of interpretation of uh,
you know, events and what's shaping and internal advice because

(48:29):
we definitely have the first time in life this you know,
we're going away the people that know to change the
channel by using your.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
Hand again with the birthday our god.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
Yeah, it's okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
You know what's great is that we could pick out
each other. No, but we aren't. That's great too, and
it's it's all good fun. And we grew up together.
So I still feel incredibly young at heart and in
mind and spirit when I'm around guys that grew up
together in Massapeople, New York. To all the guys mass people,
but a lot of them. But I love the fact

(49:04):
that this book that you wrote. Sorry can't justly again.
Go to lifefac dot net and get a copy of
this book because we talk about it quite a bit,
and it's a great book. But you were inspired by
your dad. You lived an incredible life and you're not
done yet. We keep going. But you were inspired by
you wrote the trip. Well, yes, yes, the trip that
we're going to take, Well that could come into play.

(49:26):
But your daughter is now she was seven at the
time that you were you were inspired to come up
with life BacT. She's now at a point where you're
starting to see the fruits of your upbringing, your knowledge,
your wisdom, and this book and the lessons that you
learned now passed on to Jackie.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
You know, she's going to be twenty one, is going
into her junior year college. But when she wasn't the
kindness the kindest person in the high school graduating class.
Now that's you know, you got a vote right the
whole school. She was the kind this girl.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (50:00):
And that was a very problem moment. And it was
kind of a verification that we are in my wife
and are implementing the right mindset values. Yes, and it's
really he's coming on this motorcycle trip with us, and
we got to talk about it so that people when
we come back, Yes, and the next time that we're

(50:21):
going to be, we should do the whole show on it.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
Absolutely. I mean when we come back, we're going to
have footage for those that are watching, We're going to
have audio screams of pain and joy. Uh, tell us
where we're going. And it's called is it because I've
only seen it in print and I've seen it video.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
It's a l i V.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
Right alive a l i V.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
But here's the thing, so it's it's.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
Like fantasy camp for motorheads.

Speaker 5 (50:47):
Well, yes, we're not really motives for the guys can't
even ride?

Speaker 1 (50:53):
You can't right?

Speaker 4 (50:53):
No? I kind of right, so right.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
But here's what it is.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
And I'm honest about I better be honest about.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
With me, you, Mike saying his son, Jackie, my two cousins,
and she right, So.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
Jane's a man, Mike singers, a man, you're a man.

Speaker 6 (51:13):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (51:16):
But the purpose and we have done this, and and
I think I highly recommend everyone doing it is.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
To put really good people together and get away. Right.

Speaker 5 (51:26):
So we're gonna be out riding motorcycles through the trails,
and we're gonna camp, and it's gonna be fancy camp
but it's gonna be nice.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
But they call it clamping. But it's fancy camping. That
doesn't sound as good, doesn't yeh. But but a retreat
doesn't always require that you submit your blood type.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
That's the best. That was the thing.

Speaker 5 (51:47):
And I had to talk today because if you look
at there, you know we may do this. We may
go swimming, you may get chased by bear. Poor Jackie
keeps worrying about the bear.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
And I said to her, well, bring the bring the
bear costume.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
But I said to her, Jaggie, we're old.

Speaker 5 (52:03):
You are the safest person. The one who has to
worry is the slowest runner. But bears never getting to you.
He's got she's got the bears got to eat seven
people before he gets there.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
And Steve's not coming, then i'd be safe. Well, you
you've got the knee uh injection, so you can eat. No, No,
you'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (52:23):
Yeah, you've let a good life talk a bear out
of it though, Yeah, right.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Yeah, how much would it takes?

Speaker 5 (52:30):
Actually, word of all the things driving off cliffs and
being in the woods, and she does what she's worried
about the bear?

Speaker 4 (52:37):
It said bears. Well, listen, it's a concern. Some people
never fear bears. She's going to be god near Yosemite.
So we talked about this earlier. It's near Yosemite Park.
I just found out in California. Geographically ignorant. I think
I thought Youosemite was up somewhere close to Canada. I
just figured because the Yogi bear. Yeah, and that if

(53:00):
that's the bear that comes after Jackie, I think.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Today, what's the problem.

Speaker 4 (53:03):
Yeah, it's very safe, cartoonish bear.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
He just wants are picking aga baskets?

Speaker 4 (53:07):
Well, what else can we expect for this? You mentioned
the retreat. It's good for these people that are you know,
mostly everyone's connected to a life fact, but to get
away and to bond in a way that is. I mean,
it's gonna be embracing a lot of different components of
just being in the arena, different arena.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
I think, you know, a part of me is, you know,
my whole life, mostly because my dad was cheap, but
I loved it. We camped on an island in the
middle of the Lake George. Beautiful, I mean absolutely beautiful,
and what we would play games at night, and we
would take hikes and we would snork on around the island.
There was no distractions. You know, you couldn't say, oh,

(53:48):
you're going to go to breakfast and we're going to
go to the gift shop and Jack's going down. We're
stuck on an island for seven nine days, and at
times it got a little bit much, but the point
was we really learned to enjoy nature and each other.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Right.

Speaker 5 (54:08):
And you know, as you get older, especially you you're
like ancient now because you had a birthday ahead of me.
But you know, you realize that it is the people.
It's the people you love. I mean everyone on this trip,
it's forty years friendship. And you know, then we got
my cousin who held as a baby. We got my
other cousin who helped me as a baby, got Jackie

(54:29):
held as a baby.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
Can't wait for the humor. Yeah, I can already tell
what's going on text. So we're talking about the alive.
We think it's pronounced alive, but it's a l I V.
It's like fantasy. I can't wait to tell Motorcycle dune
Buggers and we will tell you all about it. That's
when we're back the next time. On the Man in
the Arena for Arthur Lee. I'm Rick Thatcher. We'll see

(54:51):
you next time in the arena.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Dude, it's o joke. When you choke, lie back and
without breath, there will be death to get life back
and get life back

Speaker 3 (55:08):
And gets life lie back and life back and
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