June 26, 2025 • 57 mins
In the Arena - Show 44. Brought to you by LifeVac. Hosted by Rick Fatscher. With special guests. Be sure to catch Mr. 3000, Ray Priebe, with news on the latest lives saved. The Man in the Arena airs live @ 6:30pm EST every Thursday night from Paradise Studios NY via the STRONGISLAND.COM Entertainment Network.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
It's no joke.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
When you chokeget Life back and without breath, they'll be
death cigad, Life Back and.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Goad, Live Back.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
And Life Lie Back, Life Life Back.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
And Yeah, hey everyone, it's Rick thatcher Man in the arena.
I'm here with Arthur Lee Ceo, inventor of Life Back,
and Patrick O'Rourke, and we're so happy to be with
you this weekend. We're in San Diego, We're in Los Angeles, Houston, Orlando, Dallas,
New York, and of course not to.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Be forgotten Allentown, PA.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Times in your area.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
But how great is it?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
How exciting to be part of Arthur the fastest growing
podcasts in America?
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Well, you know it's cool because it's uh, it's working.
People like it. I mean, we are in the arena,
so it's not another show of what do you think
of other people in the Yeah? Well, yeah, exactly. And yeah,
what always bugged me is, you know, this opinion on
everything and having done nothing, you know, and it goes
(01:10):
into the kind of the opening thoughts for today. You know,
we just did this insane motorcycle trip. Right.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Insane is a good, good word alive.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I followed it on Facebook.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Yeah so but you know throughout that there's always something
gurgling in my head, you know, and your teeth. Yeah, frocks,
but there was some rocks importance to the helmet.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Yeah, but our head cracking live style.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
But the thought was, you know, we had to fly in,
we had to drive five hours. You know, you're in
the sweat, dirt. It's not easy, you know. And then
you're you're going through seventy and you're on top of
a mountain looking out at this incredible country and world
and God, and it circulated to me. It goes back.
(02:00):
I think I was talking to you about skiing. Right,
it's pain the neck, you're tired, you kids are crying,
it's heavy, it's cold. Yeah, it's a freezing and you
take a run with your family and you get that
feeling and you're on top of the mountain. But in
a micro sense, things that are hard are great, right,
Like if you think about how hard life actor has been.
(02:23):
We saved ten lives today.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
All right to that, Okay, that's okay for a rent
of a buss.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
We have a clap that the audience is not good.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
They're busting, they're busting.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
People earning a lot of peanut butter Today.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
They've almost gotten used to it, but we never can.
As you look at the details of some of the
lives saved, it becomes more than just the number.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
But here's what I wanted to post to you guys. Right,
So I was thinking in my life a lot of
hard things. But as growing up as a kid, Yeah,
my dad would make me do everything. I was the
indeentgured servant and that was my job and I understood
that as it should be. Yeah, problem with that. And
one year I had to break up the cement in
(03:06):
the entire basement. I had to take a sledgehat. I
couldn't swing it full because basement was low, smashing into
little pieces. Put in a wheelbow, wheel it up out back,
dump it do the whole thing. Underneath was another floor
and my dad had the great idea, said we should
take that up too. Okay, another floor sister, she came
into scrape later she was involved in the scrape, was scraping.
(03:29):
But the point was it was humongously difficult. And then
I had to break up the rocks and put them
back down. And it was a project. But two things. One,
since it was so hard, I was really proud of
it and my dad was proud of me. And to
this day that floor hasn't cracked. It's like ten feet thick.
And the cement guy was like, what are you going
(03:50):
to do with drive it tanks down here? Because it
was landing. Yeah, his dad he was an engineer. But
think of something in life, not like work wise so much.
I think it's something that was hard. What was something.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Rearing a child?
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Yeah? No kid. Yeah, well that's great too, but that's
a good point. Yeah, but can you think of something YouTube,
something that you did that was really hard that afterwards
you were like, man, that that you know it was
worth it.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
I can always equate it to beginning a football season
with doubles and triples on hot days and you're like,
it's almost a survival thing.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
It's so hard. You just got to survive it when
you do. And we were lucky we had real good teams.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
It was like, you know, that was totally worth it,
right you when you're going through it, you're crying and
thing you doing this another kid?
Speaker 5 (04:35):
And I was not in the basement saying how proud
it was you. I had sweat and asbestos and cement
us all over me.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Does it make it does it make the result more sweet.
So for instance, life fact your journey twenty twelve invented
to twenty sixteen before life was saved, now incredible, you know,
blown past four thousand lives saved. You know, does that
time period that where the struggles were imminent every day to.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Make it more I think only because I had one.
It was for life, you know, and that thought that
knowing what the pain of loss in an instant is
and how devastating is. So it wasn't as conscious, right,
it was just keep going, work twenty hours a day,
stalk everyone in the world. Just keep going. But in
this case, do you have a story? Do you have
(05:25):
something that you were there? A couple of things that
was really hard, two things perfectly younger, oh younger, because
this was a young homeowner.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I remember taking apart because I couldn't do anything to construct,
but I could destruct it. So I tore apart the bathroom,
the pool, and also took all the padeling off the.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Side of the house, which I knew. You know, it
was difficult.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
It wasn't pretty cut myself quite a bit, as anyone
who knows me, they not handy at all. So breaking
things down was much more or my style, but very
very difficult, but I knew the end result was going
to be a more beautiful home. And because the wife
was waiting, and you know what they say, happy life
or happy wife, happy life.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Okay, you're more of a decom man. I am exactly
take things apart. My Italian in laws roll. He's like, oh,
you're irish. You can pick up those rocks and move
them into We'll take care of the painting in the detail.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You're the you're the Idioto moves Yes.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Now does Kevin new generation? We have some of our
offspring in the audience. Does Kevin?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Now?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Do they get their hands dirty?
Speaker 6 (06:35):
Kevin is the least we call them country club towns.
He's more of a manager on construction sites than an
actual work that's smart.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
He goes, you're doing that wrong, watch your fingers, move
that over.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
But my oldest Connor more of a get his hands
dirty and handy Kevin's It.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Doesn't necessarily mean that, like you know, I know with
Jack growing up doing gymnastics, you know, I because for
me it was a little tough and I always threatened
or would uh threaten, you know, redoing the basement. Oh,
we have a cross space. It really be nasty. And
I have told her the story many times, but I
think that we have to be conscious kind of like fear. Right,
(07:16):
we worry about fear. It's in the book, right, we
worry about fear. You're afraid to do something, but everything great.
You have to be afraid of. Having a child is
grace thing in the world. We're all scared when we
get this little thing and we got to take it home,
and that they're not going to help us anymore.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Very frightened.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
And the book Arthur references is of course, sorry can't
is a lie. You can go to life fact dot
net and pick up your own copy. Sorry can'ts Allie,
Life fact dot Net. And while you're there, hey, why
not pick up a Life Act Protect those you love?
Use codem I t A for a great discount and
you get the book. You get a Life Act to
(07:52):
protect your family. And we've protected how how many units?
So we talk about the lives saves and we're over
well over four thousand, and then the number will come
up later in the show Ray preview. Mister three K
will give us the latest and greatest stories. But do
we know how many lives are protected, or how many
life facts have been dispersed, like.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Three million, three and a half million. I did the math.
You know, you like doing that.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
That's just like always say, though you hope you never
have to use it, but you want to have it
for sure.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
And later on the show, we're going to be talking
about how Texas has taken great measures to protect the
states to let.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
In because of the difficulty to get that passed and
getting a law passed, you know, And I.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
See you talking about difficult stuff.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Well, because I think we and it goes back to
the fear thing when I kind of ad that revelation
about fear. We fear things that are great. Right, you're
afraid to start that business, but if you do, then
you succeed. It's great, and that fear is part of it.
And I think we have to understand the importance of difficulty,
(09:03):
of pain, of sacrifice. And in a good way. It
was what we just did being in the freaking hot
soun dirtle overs.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Back to Alive, Oh beat up, drop the drop the
e but Alive monumental. And I can't thank you enough
for the experience. I mean, getting to spend time with
certain members of the of the Life Back team. But
your family. Jackie was a rock star. Mike Singer's son
was a rock star.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Like you would have loved the comedy. Oh my god,
it was. You know. It's a bunch of guys just being.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And I'm great in hot weather. I'm great out in
the desert.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
It's good for you sweat.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Read the book and a meat lockers. You have to
be a desert.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
If I fell into dirt, it looked like a bread.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
And that's a good point. But that's paint.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
That's paint, such a pretty picture.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
But he remember, we take off our masks and like
our faith.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Like jockeys on a muddy day.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
It was a good California dust.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
We're talking with Arthur Lee, pad O Rourke and of
course i'm Rick Thatcher, the man in the arena. We're
going to have more talking about the Battle of Texas
and the great things that Tony Lebate's doing with Equal
First Aid, and we'll be back with more after this message.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
Hi.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
I'm Arthur Lee, CEO and inventor of Life Fact, a
simple choking rescue device that thirteen years ago was made
my garage to protect my daughter.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Now all of these lives have been saved thanks to
Life BacT, over four thousand lives and over two thousand kids.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
But still a child dies every five days from joking.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Please, our family is everything to us. Consider are protecting
your family in a choky emergency with life back Go
to life bac dot net today.
Speaker 8 (11:06):
Thanks Da.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Again, Sorry, and we're back on the man in the
arena and now the woman in the arena. Tony Lebate
a vehicle first aid just tremendous works she always does.
But the big win this week, Texas takes old action
on choking emergencies with HB five forty nine. Life BacT
supports this new law, of course, and it's called the
Western Brian Mandrel Act. And we'll talk more about the
(11:30):
mess the Western Brian Mandrell Foundation which we reached out
to and they must be, you know, over the moon
with the success. So Tony Lebate welcome as always a
frequent flyer here We always welcome you.
Speaker 8 (11:44):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
How gratifyed the The intro discussion was about the difficulty,
but I mean, obviously let's celebrate for a second and
explain you know, the family and what what it was
transpired and you know the fact that the Texas the
first and only eighty eight compliance state.
Speaker 8 (12:06):
Totally, so Texas was slow going at first.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
It the representative was, yeah, we're going to draft it,
We're going to put it in, and this is what
he kept following it, please, you have to put a
bill in. And then finally we found out that his
own daughter had choked. And I didn't hear it directly,
but that was the story. His daughter choked, and the
bill then became a priority. So November of twenty twenty
(12:30):
four he then did put the bill in. So from
November twenty four till now, it took seven months for
a law to get past in Texas, so that really
went fast. So it passed the House. There was opposition
that you know, was on record, and we were really
nervous about that.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
But you know what the opposition was.
Speaker 9 (12:49):
The opposition was from the Nurses Association and they just
were worried about the training and just did not approve
of the bill wording, et cetera. And then the two
set next to each other, Debbie Mandrel and the Nurses Association,
and then Debbie came up and of course told her
heartbreaking story and the hearing you know, went on and
(13:11):
it quickly moved out of that Education Committee and quickly
got picked up by the Senate, and it just it
was just an exciting time to see all that it
had to be read two and three times and just
to watch it move.
Speaker 8 (13:26):
You can see you can see like the.
Speaker 9 (13:27):
Little data moving along you know online, which was really exciting.
Speaker 8 (13:32):
And it was just very fast.
Speaker 9 (13:33):
But the slowest part was it got sent to the
governor on June second, and it was like, what what
happens and could he veto it?
Speaker 8 (13:42):
And it was the googling.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Yeah, but you have any stayed seven you've worked on
over the last ten years, almost.
Speaker 8 (13:48):
Thirteen, no, thirteen, so yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Tell us a little bit though about them. Grandmother, the
grandmother who was the strongest advocation.
Speaker 9 (13:58):
Yes, Western so Western Mandrel's foundation. Yes, the grandmother. Once
I told her that there was a hearing, she immediately
she spent the entire day she got there. She waited
because that was the day. I don't know if you
guys remember, the hearing took place very late in the afternoon,
and we waited all day long, and so the family
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was there all day. Finally, you know, she was able to,
you know, tell her story. So she's been following it,
she's been asking if they could be named the Western
mandrel Act, and advocating with us.
Speaker 8 (14:33):
And also with Aaron Born.
Speaker 9 (14:35):
So we constantly just stayed together, stayed on top, kept
everybody informed and you know, let's move this along.
Speaker 8 (14:41):
We have to move this bill now.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
It was he was eighteen months old Western? Was it
in a day care facility or a school Saturday?
Speaker 8 (14:48):
I have to be honest, I don't know, you know,
I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Right, but it's it's appropriate that their loss, which and
we have other families that have exhibited this like just
selflessness to advocate for those that you know, so that
others don't have to suffer the same.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Say, think about the difficulty story. They have to go
through the most difficult thing, losing a child, and any
whatever they did would be accept will never talk go
you know, just whatever, right it would be hard to
say you have to do something, And they pushed through,
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particularly in this case, to help get legislation passed to
save others. So if you tie it into the beginning
of breaking up a house or wrecking it or going
football camp, the power of fighting through that difficulty has
now made a state law that makes all schools safe,
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even particularly for people with disabilities because they have no option.
And they took that pain and now turned on to
saving lives. And as it changes and it goes through
the states and we stop losing numerous kids every year
to choking, they're courage to battle through the pain for
something great is the underlying theme, you know, And I
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think that's important. People need to know that there will
be pain that will be sacrificed. It is going to
be hard, but if it's worth doing, those are going
to be requirements.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
It'd be interesting to.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
See what states now fall in line, not only with
the legislation that is starting in place, because I believe
there's thirteen total states including Texas, but now which others
will say, you know, this is the path.
Speaker 9 (16:35):
So as far as you know West Western Mandrel's Act,
where we have other states, for example, I would love
to see Mavericks legacy onto their bill this coming year.
We have New Jersey, right, we have Bowen's Law, Bowen
Levy Law, which would be in Maryland that they're drafting.
(16:56):
Now we have oh goodness, there's there's so many well,
Kentucky is yeah, Landon's hope which passed the Assembly but
got stalled in the Senate, so that's going to be
reintroduced into another committee.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
I went there when he passed, and I met the family.
I have done it often because I don't see how
you can kind of give your condolences in a zoom call.
They live out in the middle of nowhere, a beautiful family.
And he was such a cool kid, Like he was
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a big old farm boy, you know. And the interesting
thing about him is he had done a drawing and
he said when he grew up, he wanted to invent
something that firefighters could use to save lives. Like he
actually drew that out, and there was I have a
picture of what he drew in writing that. And you know,
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there recovery slash turned into fighting through the difficulty to
make his dream come true. And once again it's going
through that pain. But to think about the fact all
these states have a child's death.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Are they all attached to a horrendous story for these
other states.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
That we may or may not be in. You know,
is there one in California?
Speaker 8 (18:18):
No, there's not one in California.
Speaker 9 (18:20):
But we did have a family reach out to life
back and then reach out to me where they would
like to see it in South Carolina. So I do
have families that want to have bills put in and
we've been trying. We've been trying in Ohio, Michigan. But
we just need that one representative that's going to say
I want to do this, just like Maryland. Maryland was
quick to drop to.
Speaker 8 (18:40):
Pop on board.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Isn't it sad that it took Costco or it took
these states to have action. Let's pay attention to what's
gone on in Texas and the big win and get
out ahead of it before you have a child lost.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
So we have in Maryland.
Speaker 9 (18:58):
We didn't find out about a choking triad until recently,
but he passed in twenty nineteen. So it takes all
these years for their lawsuits to settle, et cetera where
they can finally come public. So that Maryland is not
afraid to say put life acts in every single school. Actually,
the representative can't wait to meet the team and to
(19:19):
meet you, and he had says to me, he just
wants to shake his hand and hug his neck, Hu,
hug his neck, and.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
So yeah, and he was just quick, tight, nice and tight, ant.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I'll do it for it again, fact doesn't do anything
for the intentional choker.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
This is a hug we're talking about.
Speaker 9 (19:40):
Yeah, so that stay picked up. But I know that
we run across oppositions. We have so many hurdles, and
I do want to share one. So one minute Maryland
is hopping on board, and less than twenty four hours
I had gotten a call saying, well, hey, that's great.
We can't follow what Texas did, so do you you
have any other states that passed? So now now there's
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a political party. You know, there's a political you know,
this comes more ridiculous. So right, so there's no there's
no exactly, and there's no blue, there's no red. I'm
not purposely going after a certain state because of the representative.
But all I know is when I want to help
a family put a bill in, we have to have
(20:25):
the right representative.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
For example, Uh.
Speaker 9 (20:28):
Pennsylvania, we have to we have to move on. We
just have to move on and ask for another representative
to please take on this very.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Critical But here's the ridiculous thing.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
And I got this way back when I first thought
at Saladino as some woman and Vendetto is our center,
and uh, you know, I can't help it. I wanted
you to like it. I we wanted to present the
stupidity and say, here's a bill that requires schools to
obey federal law. So we're gonna have a law that
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hires you to obey the law, and if it doesn't
work with another law that says you have to obey
the law, to obey the law because the law, the
federal law did you have to have equal policy, procedure,
and equipment for those with disabilities. Every school has a
great choking post, a guy standing up. They're doing a
(21:20):
great No policy, no procedure, no training is against the law.
So the ridiculousness of the difficulty to get a law
where they're already breaking the law. Turns out that the
government is really great and not obeying the law. They
love enforcing the law on other people. God forbid, you say, hey,
(21:45):
you're not obanying the law. Suddenly that doesn't matter. Really amazing,
I mean, is that the frustration of.
Speaker 9 (21:53):
It's so frustrating and just to and again the slow
going and yes, yes, yes we haven't had Colorado, who
was only drafted it. But I had gotten a phone
call from the Senator that said we were out to dinner.
We were all our colleagues and we were at a
table and a woman choked, but her daughter was there
and was able to save her, and we did not
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know what to do.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
So this is a priority, but it's still sitting. The
draft is still sitting.
Speaker 9 (22:19):
So we just need Like we said, Texas went, But
now do I have to play the game of well,
who's now?
Speaker 8 (22:25):
I have to do research now who's read Who's blue?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
We don't want to do so Maryland has actually stated
that because Texas passed this, we can't follow.
Speaker 8 (22:33):
This is what I got.
Speaker 9 (22:34):
I had to write this down. So yesterday I had
a phone conversation. I said, I'm sharing the news. It
was a few messages I left, but I finally got
through and he said, that's really great news.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
But we have to do you have New York? Do
you have I don't know if you said Pennsylvania.
Speaker 9 (22:50):
Whatever it was, you know, no, No, this was yeah, Maryland,
do you have another state?
Speaker 8 (22:55):
Another blue state? Because we don't.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
If we put a bill in, no one's going to
vote for it. And I said, that's just you know, heartbreaking,
and you know chosing choking, choking, you know, doesn't discriminate.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
He will say shame on you, but shame on them.
Speaker 9 (23:08):
This is the wording he used to me. So I
wrote it down because this is exactly what it is.
He said to me, Well, that's the nature of the beast,
and that's exactly what.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Let's change it because you talked about the opposition that
there was opposition, and it turned out it was nurses
with a valid concern that their opposition was, hey, we
want to make sure everyone's trained properly. It wasn't well,
you know, the other side wants it, or it's attached
to someone that may or may not have spoken to
doctor Ben Carson, or you know how many other examples
(23:38):
we have of just absurd.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
If the drawn ridiculous lines is continue disobeyed federal law
and put children at risk, because.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
So you are like a perfect place for it to stop,
right it is.
Speaker 9 (23:55):
Life actually has six saves. In Senator Markland's district, which
is Wisconsin. Wisconsin was afraid to keep moving the bill
along because some of the members were the governor was
part of DPI and if DPI was going to oppose
the bill, which they did is Department of Public Instruction.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
They were opposing the bill. The governor was once a
part of that. The bill died, it went nowhere. So
that's what's heartbreaking.
Speaker 9 (24:27):
And the senator has six saves now in his own
districts with six.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
With a life Act exactly well, you know what.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
It could speak touned. I guess goes in with the
difficult discussion. When did someone say I don't care, I'm
going to make this happen. Red, blue, Green.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Hasn't been like this, or there wouldn't be any fire
extinguishers in the schools right right, at some point they
actually worked together and got things done.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
This is ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
But you know what's crazy too, it's not a political
saying we haven't had multiple children die in the school
in fire since nineteen fifty, but there's a hundred kids
of choked to death in schools where I started. So
when we sit here and we say, well, that state
is landing because he died, and we say, you know
in Africa, it's Maverick in and uh ROI in Pennsylvania,
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you could name a kid in every state. Hello. That
means it happens a lot. You know, it's not a
federal bill for one kid. It's each state has a child,
and they have multiple children.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
New York.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
I think seven have died in school, and enough with
this red blue green, Why can't we pick something to
get back on track? And all agree that exactly right?
And plus the fact that children with disabilities who morally
we deserve to give them special consideration only because there
(25:53):
is nothing like really, I mean, myth guy is going
nuts slightly.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Myth guy is making in appearance lads and gentleman without
and he warning. But you could see it coming. You
could see the reason why Mytha is here. Smoke is
coming out of Arthur Lee's ears as we speak, and
rightfully so we joke about it, but it is serious.
It's something to get behind. And as Pat said, unite.
Let's when we say there's more that unites this than
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divides us. It's sometimes hard to see that, but you
know what, we'll.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Get a feeling like some reality is coming back. Yes,
is another boost to getting back to common sense and
humanity and right even.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
If like we I jumped on this journey with you guys,
but like we meet these families. The father, right, I
think it was a maverick. He drives around giving out
life backs. You know, this guy he lost his son,
buys it fills his carp and goes to places and
gives them out. There's so many stories like that of
families like just people just I don't know if this
is their way of grieving or getting Oh you know,
but how are we not listening to these people?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
How is this not more of a I don't know?
Speaker 5 (27:00):
But and then what happened to the the fortitude and
courage of our great leaders to do what's right? Regardless?
I can't vote for it because I'm a Democrat or
are you kidding me? I mean that would be punching
the face material like I couldn't. I don't know. If
I could control myself, i'd say you should not be
in public office, could you believe it or not? You're
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supposed to be servicing us.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Well, I think so many people have gone through that struggle,
and that's why they're doing it themselves. That's why they're
filling their own car with life acts and going out
in hand. Now they are absolutely get the government to
do it. But you know what, why there they always
get my hero logo. They went through the ultimate pain
and they're doing it so you don't feel what they felt.
I mean, talk about persevering through difficult and looking at
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the other side. I mean Maverick, he counts. I think
he's got like five or six that he is directed.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Yeah, and that means his little son was responsible for
all those kids being alive, and he knows those people
didn't have to feel.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
On one show, he talked to us from a car
driving to another place that told over and he's like, yeah,
I'm going to another farm and can give out ten.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
And wasn't Wisconsin the state that had the brilliant question
about cost which caused you to make the.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Famous statement I'll give them to you. And that that.
Speaker 9 (28:21):
Was on an anniversary of a child Sam that died
in their school.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
It was just a sixty year anniversary.
Speaker 9 (28:29):
So on the sixth year anniversary of that child dying
in school, we had the hearing and the.
Speaker 8 (28:34):
Room was heavy, right, the room was heavy, and.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
We saw the video.
Speaker 8 (28:38):
Yeah you know you lost.
Speaker 9 (28:40):
Some lost their child, some saved their child, and and
the word coupon came up, code what what can you
do for us?
Speaker 8 (28:47):
So he did.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
It freak great.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Opportunity was heavy too, Yeah, you know what a lot
of what did he just say? We have a lot
of calls to action and we're gonna we're up against
the break. But I'm asking for the folks of San Diego,
Los Angeles, Houston, Orlando, Dallas, New York, and Allentown get
in touch with your state senator and let them know
that the common sense yeah both sides. Let them know
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that there should be a life back in every school,
and even a law to obey the law mores common
sense thinking.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
After this break, No.
Speaker 8 (29:36):
She started to choke on a piece of candy.
Speaker 10 (29:38):
She wasn't breathing.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Then Ray reached for the life back and it saved her.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
She could have easily died that day. A life back
saved her life.
Speaker 10 (29:47):
What I would say is, don't need a life back
and not have it. Have a life back and hopefully
never need it.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Recently, the American Red Cross has added anti joking devices
as an option. Once they and a protocol fails is
not feasible, go.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
To life back dot Net called eight seven seven, five
four three three eight two two.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Hey, welcome back to the man in the arena and
the women in the arena.
Speaker 8 (30:12):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
It was it was Teddy Roosevelt who came up with
the quote, and unfortunately he wasn't of diversity of thought
as much as.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
We just because we used to be able to. That
was good, That was okay. But I do like when
you say and the women and the women because these
two are worried.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Well, we are joined. I'm Rick Thatcher along with Arthur Lee.
We're joined by Tony Lebate, equal first Aid, and of
course Heidi Felix, vice president of sales for Life Back
and Heidi, welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
A frequent A frequent guest.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
No, I think that title is almost condescending compared to
the heart and soul.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
What she does and the fire of Life Back and Drive.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
So you're saying change of change of change of title.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Live, Hey, I'm the president. What am I?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I'm CEO and the inventor forgot that?
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Good for me?
Speaker 3 (31:03):
So so it's on the heels of on the heels
of the Texas wind. We immediately start looking at and
now we mentioned about the unfortunate communication you had with Maryland.
But now we have these other states that have bills
in progress on a neighbor.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Working on this year of course, and you know we've
been back and forth. I mean I've been in moth obviously,
I went to Wisconsin. We want to all been I've
been in there to put a freaking joke up places,
and uh but I think that with Heidi particular, to
talk a little bit about, you know, the difficulty of
getting a bill this simple and this mom basically do
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a better lord and protect kids with disabilities. How hard
would that?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
It's more difficult than school rock. I'm just a bill bill.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Yeah, well it assigned your bill, your law.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yeah, yeah, Well it's interesting.
Speaker 11 (31:58):
Tony and I went to Threaten, New Jersey and we
were there to testify, and we had of course Maverick's parents,
and we had Darren and Kim, and we also had
some families who actually had lost their son unfortunately, had
choked to death on a bus and he was in
a wheelchair.
Speaker 8 (32:18):
So when we got up to.
Speaker 11 (32:19):
Testify, you know, I had to address, you know, the
animal in the room, which was the fact that this
boy had choked it up on a bus without you know,
anybody there to resuscitate him. And so we were talking
about having it in schools, but having it on the
transportation vehicles is paramount too, because how many of us
send our kids with a snack or you haven't fed
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him in the morning, or now they have a snack
on the way home.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
And you know, I don't.
Speaker 11 (32:43):
Think these bus drivers are equipped and understand, you know,
what they have to do in order to save them,
and especially this child was in a wheelchair, right, And
I walked up to the parents and I did exactly
what you would have done, Arthur, if you're there, and.
Speaker 8 (32:55):
I gave like cried, and I gave them.
Speaker 11 (32:59):
I gave him a bit and I said, I never
want this to happen to anyone else. And that was
his twin sister was there. She also was in a wheelchair.
Speaker 9 (33:06):
But I do want to add that they delivered that
child back to the family unresponsive. So yeah, they just
delivered the baby, the boy and just said that, you know,
we don't know what's happening.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Just how many games have been working on Jersey?
Speaker 8 (33:22):
Oh Jersey.
Speaker 9 (33:23):
Uh the e f A is four years now, but
that bill was in there before Equal first Date was incorporated.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah right, yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
How long were you there that day?
Speaker 10 (33:33):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (33:33):
That was a fun day. That was another.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
It's fun.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
He is very difficulty difficult. It was it was that
was that's bad.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I was you know, the thing is like Jaggie.
Speaker 11 (33:47):
Yeah, well, you know, I just adore Tony and I
think she's doing amazing work, and so just the ability
to thank you with yeah, she's amazing. And that was
what I loved was the heartfelt testimony that came from
Darren and can. I mean that was just and he
actually has eight staves by the way, Darren, Yeah he
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shared those.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yeah, amazing.
Speaker 11 (34:15):
But the challenge, I mean, I think when Tony and
I spent another twelve hours in New York City in
front of City Hall and we met with the amazing
councilwoman Christy Mamorado and her chief of staff, April, which
they are movers and shakers. They do not fear opposition,
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and Christy is driven by the fact that her grandfather
choked it up in a restaurant.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
But think about this too, and you're right, you need
the right representative to get to what we're talking about.
That's willing to fight and not give up and not
ben and if there was a cause to do so
and to cross the aisle kill someone, this would be
the case.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
But right about a.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Road bill, of course, whether it put stops ons up
to fight, whatever, you all think that.
Speaker 9 (35:04):
Because we have there's twelve hundred, two thousand bills every session,
so it just we're just a number. So we need
that representative not not to look at this as a number.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Right, Yeah, but it just some of the kind of
casual way they were treating you and the whole. Even
in Wisconsin, I had a combination of anger and emotional draining.
Like we just heard four people talk about losing their child,
you know, as they in Pennsylvania school, Sam in Wisconsin school,
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the Brugman's in Wisconsin home, Like.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
How many how does that many have to die?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Right?
Speaker 5 (35:43):
And you know, five thousand years one child. It's common
happens all the time. One hundred kids have died in school,
and they you feel like they have no soul, right,
It's not like they're paying attention like oh my god,
we need to do something.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
You party have from it and think about the life.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Like checking their phone according that this one when miss
contin and well, you know we we have it's sixty
nine dollars. You know, you're spending gazillions of dollars on
all sorts of things in sixty and have a car wash,
bake sale, click.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Cans or request one.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
How give it you?
Speaker 5 (36:20):
How's that that works too?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
You're talking about the life back on www. Dot life
back dot net.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Get your Yeah, my punkins had just exploded again.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
He doesn't even like, let's be honest, he doesn't even
like talking about that thing, right.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Right, But that's yeah, I'm getting no, no, don't do it.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
Who's on the line. It's our fight.
Speaker 9 (36:43):
I just want to add, you know how, we're talking
about a champion representative. So Pennsylvania with Isaiah and Steve Maddox,
the Maddox family, that bill went to a hearing. We
got to the hearing, and our representative walked away from
it because.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
That was another level of evil, right.
Speaker 9 (36:59):
That was that that kind of made me look at
things a little differently. And that's why if you're not
going to give us the time of day, if it's
going to take four years, we got to move on.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
So that's that's but also pay but also misinformation from
from certain parties that may just have evil intentions.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Well think about it.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
It's a feather in your cap if you do this bill,
but if it gets a little ruggy, you just walk away.
You need someone like us that says I'm never walking away.
I will look in your window at night and scare
you and you have done with Yeah, yeah, yeah, sleep
on the floor in front of.
Speaker 9 (37:33):
The representative and our attorneys here. I won't keep the
story too long. But the representative the day before, it
was even a weekend before the hearing, decided to walk away.
Because his colleague was a highly regarded emergency room physician.
He had opposition. So we were going back and forth
in this little match. But he said to me, after
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working on it all these years that basically they wouldn't
represent equal First Aid because because they don't have enough
wheelchair students students in wheelchairs in their schools. And I
had to as he's talking to me, all you have
to do is google it, and I said, Representative, there's
three hundred and sixty four thousand wheelchair users in Pennsylvania.
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And there you know what in Pennsylvania. You know, like
we have to get him in all the schools.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
And because it's just a.
Speaker 8 (38:21):
Match, and he's like, well, give me the number.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
To hear this, I want to drive.
Speaker 8 (38:26):
Yeah, well we're going to We're going to get Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Can we punch someone in the face?
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Is on?
Speaker 7 (38:40):
Those are just the opposite across the throat.
Speaker 9 (38:42):
We have to know about the opposition, But how ridiculous
it's horrible.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
And you know what the federal law doesn't say.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
You know, you have to have equal opportunity, facilities and
policy and procedure. It's once in a while someone comes in.
That's not the way it works, because you got students,
you got staff, you got faculty, you got visitors, and
you know they don't not open the door so a
child can get him in a wheelchair until.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
They have one.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
This is the way it works. Plus the fact that
the Red Cross recommends it when protocol fails.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
And it does fail and.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
If it's not feasible, so they cover both. Meaning if
the child, you know, a fit, regular child chokes and
it doesn't work, you can save them. And if there
is a special needs child, whether it's a scoliosis brace
as simple as that. How many kids in school have that.
It doesn't have to be a wheelchair for the current
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policy and procedure not to be able to be done.
Speaker 11 (39:43):
The point is, like my son wound up at aclchair,
was in a wheelchair because he was a football player.
Speaker 8 (39:47):
I mean, he was an atypical student.
Speaker 11 (39:50):
It wasn't like he was disabled, but he wound up
in a wheelchair for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 8 (39:54):
So you know, I mean, it happens all the time.
Speaker 11 (39:56):
I think what I was the most disturbed about in
that whole New York City Council thing is the fact
that they literally, in the very beginning, the councilwoman said,
is there any opposition to the bill that I'm introducing?
Speaker 8 (40:10):
No opposition.
Speaker 11 (40:11):
The Chancellor of New York City Schools was there, her
first chancellor. All of them are sitting at a table.
Four hours Tony and I sat there waiting to testify.
Then we get up there and of course there's opposition, right,
So I had to address the animal in the room,
which is, well, until it's FDA approved, we just don't
feel comfortable implementing it, so you're just going to let
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children die. And on the line was fifteen of our
advocates waiting all that time to be able to zoom
in right. One of them happened to be our friend,
Vivian Fitzgerald, who is a Department of Education employee, was
sitting with her superintendent of her school district, waiting to
testify for four and a half hours. Okay, So to me,
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that's what I felt was not right and backfull, you know,
And because all of them waited, I mean, Jen Glenn,
I mean, Ray is heartful.
Speaker 8 (41:07):
They just and there are seen fifteen of them, fifteen
of them.
Speaker 11 (41:11):
And then we had two people sitting next to us
who were complete strangers, also supporting the bell because they
were Eric Eric Ryan.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
Oh my god. But think about this too. This isn't
for them. They just don't want either to happen or
they know, like Jen Or and some of the people
that had to say Ray Ray, could Bailey get through
the story without breaking down because we are so grateful
that he has his child because of it. But in
the real world that's so powerful. They're not promoting probably
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we're not trying to. They get the EpiPen every year
because it's good and it's a pharmaceutical drug. I don't
know who is there to represent for the EpiPen, but.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
Time they got done.
Speaker 11 (41:53):
All these things get done, and they are more expensive
than our device.
Speaker 5 (41:57):
Well also regulated, just like we are.
Speaker 8 (42:00):
Well Vivian. Her statement was, I am a teacher.
Speaker 11 (42:04):
I wouldn't be here if that incident happened while I
was in the school. I had that life backt at
my home and I used it to save my own life,
and my son performed the abdominal thrust and it didn't work.
And Vivian, who I've known for over twenty years, I
can't even imagine her not being here, right, and the
idea that her testimony and every testimony was very powerful, Kim,
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you know Chambers, Darren Chambers. And they cut Darren off literally,
you know, after that three minute mark.
Speaker 8 (42:35):
So I think.
Speaker 11 (42:37):
It wasn't anything that our console woman, who was very
passionate and amazing, she said, I don't agree with the
way that they handled it, and we just we don't
condone that kind of behavior. We're very sorry, Hidi.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Sorry, everything's moving though, right, this is a movie positive
because I was thinking, you know, when we hear it,
as long as it's not a smoke screen, you have concerns.
Welcome it, you know, welcome is questions about training, questions
about inmation, even questions about what the FDA thinks the
heart register.
Speaker 8 (43:06):
What was heartbreaking? It was, you say, four or five hours.
Speaker 9 (43:09):
I don't know if we got on until six o'clock,
but Heidi and I were the only two left in
the room and she was like, should we leave? And
I said so now, and then there's two councils people left.
We would watch them, pack their backpacks, close, close their
name down and walk out. And at one point, so
at one point, and I'm sorry for Ray, but we
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couldn't see the waiting room.
Speaker 8 (43:33):
But when Ray was speaking, it was very, very touching.
Speaker 9 (43:39):
But the council did not pay attention to his testimony
and we were blown away, and the officer in arms
actually tried to get their attention to cut it out.
So the two women were, you know, leaning into each other,
scrolling on their phone, laughing, and he tried not not
about our testimony, but just about just whatever they were doing.
(43:59):
So at the end, Heidi said, you know, should we
be staying here? And I said, well, we have fifteen
people that have been waiting all day. Obviously you know
we're gonna wait for everybody's testimony. But at the end,
when they said, you know, boom meeting is over, I
went up to them and just said, you know, how
are you going to vote? Like, how will you know
all the support? Oh, well, it's online, it's taped, we'll
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listen to it back. But to me, you're having a
hearing for all New York City schools to have airway
clearance devices. But in New York City they want to
life back in every single school and then if she
gets re elected, she would love to see it in
every restaurant. But the people that we were before did
were disrespectful and all I hear as well, welcome to
(44:41):
New York. This is you know this, we see it
every day and that was just heartbreaking.
Speaker 5 (44:45):
But when I see too, you know there's three hundred,
one hundred bills and what is the thermometer? This is
for kids to be alive in school? Now, that should
be up there in New York. I remember the last
time it was a big thing that the dead bugs
on mattresses law passed, and I'm like, all right, that's great,
(45:07):
I take care of the bugs. I don't really care
because I don't know if the laws get the private
but I think children being alive in school, particularly those
with disabilities, should be kind of up there on the
top of the critical to talk about. That should be
the first building talk about.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Absolutely, we've been talking with Heidi Felix, Tony Labate, Arthur Lee.
Of course we know him sometimes as smiff guy, but
that's okay. He deserves to be and I'm a fracturably
be back with more man in the arena including mister
Ray preby three thousand after this.
Speaker 12 (45:36):
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Speaker 5 (45:54):
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Speaker 3 (45:56):
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Speaker 3 (46:26):
Going to Oh my goodness, we're back discussing what Kevin
O'Rourke is doing this Yes on Social Plans back after
the breaks to the commercial, Welcome back to the man
in the arena. You're in San Diego, You're in La Houston, Orlando, Dallas,
New York and of course Allentown, PA.
Speaker 4 (46:42):
Song made famous by I think even it was famous before.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
Uh but anyway, Billy really put them on the map
and they were all proud of that song.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
Enough of this, let's get to the final segment. Of
the man in the arena.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
We welcome as always mister three Hey, Reino.
Speaker 10 (47:10):
Jan of the arena. Good evening to all of you.
How y'all doing tonight? What oh man, what a great
show tonight. I love listening to Tony.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Was that last segment that was great?
Speaker 11 (47:22):
Wow?
Speaker 10 (47:24):
Let me tell you we waited a very long time
to speak to a very little crowd.
Speaker 5 (47:28):
It was.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
It was amazing.
Speaker 5 (47:30):
That sounds like one of your slogans.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (47:33):
Yeah, absolutely, a comedy career, A long time to talk
to you.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Very little crowd, Yes, very little crowd.
Speaker 10 (47:42):
That's right, that's right. We all we got the good
numbers for you, guys.
Speaker 5 (47:47):
How in the heart of life backers, it shows you
there you were telling keep going.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
It's hard.
Speaker 5 (47:54):
All these people that are there. They're not there to
save the Democratic kids, the Republican kids.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
They are there independent.
Speaker 4 (48:05):
Those not the Irish.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
Again.
Speaker 5 (48:09):
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
Here the letter's coming.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
We call him mister three thousand because he saved his
daughter on the side of a Florida highway.
Speaker 4 (48:18):
More than three three thousand save.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 10 (48:21):
Ye, amazing, absolutely, and folks, I come to you whenever
there's a show usually every week to give you the
rundown of the numbers. So, uh, Bobby, do do we
have a slide tonight?
Speaker 5 (48:33):
Bobby?
Speaker 3 (48:34):
I guess here comes little my life back.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
What is that reported?
Speaker 5 (48:42):
I'll take leave it?
Speaker 4 (48:46):
And fifty seven lives?
Speaker 10 (48:49):
Wow the crowd a pretty good number. But guys, wonders wrong,
numbers wrong. I thought wonder number wrong guys. Then I
was amazing to the new number that that Donna had
just sent me. Not too long ago, we got more
live save? How many today? Twelve lives save?
Speaker 1 (49:11):
Now we got twelve?
Speaker 5 (49:12):
We had tuesdays today.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
What's the record for a day?
Speaker 10 (49:16):
I want to say it's fourteen fourteen or sixteen fourteen
or sixteen.
Speaker 4 (49:25):
That's amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
So what is the official number?
Speaker 10 (49:29):
The official number four thousand, two hundred sixty three saves
two thousand, six hundred and three children.
Speaker 4 (49:42):
Wow.
Speaker 10 (49:43):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (49:49):
Oh, by the way, just for the record, the total
in a day is seventeen saves.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
W wow.
Speaker 6 (49:56):
Seventeen So yeah, is that a sausage in a Pepps festival?
Speaker 10 (50:06):
That's right, that's right, All right, Well, I'm going to
run into the highlight of the week because that is
a good one. Folks. And it's right here in my
home state. It's only about an hour away. Naples, Florida. Naples, Florida, Naples, Florida.
An eighty nine year old man from Naples was choking
on a piece of steak. My parents and I live
in the same house. My mother came over to my
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side of the house to tell me that my father
was choking. I ran to him and immediately got my
life back. His face and hands were turning blue. I
knew time was of the essence. My mom called nine
one one, and I started the heimlight. I used the
life back device twice in the state was dislodged, and
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he regained his color back. Our great first responders arrived
and took his vitals in, et cetera. I purchased the
life back as a pre cautionary measure to have in
case anyone in my family or household would ever have
an issue requiring it. I'm thankful to life Back and
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and God that my father is Okay. There you go, folks,
another state for life back.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
There's that God.
Speaker 5 (51:18):
Hey, Ray, did you did you see the video the
guy we met when we were out motorcycling that we.
Speaker 10 (51:23):
Just did not see that video?
Speaker 5 (51:25):
Oh my god, it just it's you know, we all
get that, Oh my goodness, what an amazing moment feeling.
But we ran into him. He worked there, he was
out back and he came in. He was like, thank you,
it saved my life, you know, three times times.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
And wow.
Speaker 5 (51:43):
You always get the emotion when you tell your story,
and I appreciate it. It makes it so sincere. And that
just that same feeling of he was turning blue and
someone's saying like, when they write the little paragraph like that,
you really feel it. And when that guy told me,
we just cried en up and uh but we got
mister thousands and keep us in line here and give
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us those updates.
Speaker 4 (52:06):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 10 (52:07):
Somebody's got to Yeah, that's right, somebody got to here.
I go far better to have it and never need
it than need it and never have it. The life
you save could be your own.
Speaker 5 (52:22):
How black like go dead job, We'll do the next
good God speed that guy.
Speaker 4 (52:29):
Awesome, he's the best.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
And when you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (52:32):
Politics with a red and blue issue, we could say,
when you're turning red or blue, you'll meet us.
Speaker 4 (52:37):
Wow, that ray is he still there?
Speaker 1 (52:40):
He's looking at godless.
Speaker 5 (52:43):
Somebody, Yes, could you probably go? I think you go
red to blue.
Speaker 6 (52:48):
So I want to now, I want to list stats.
I wonder what the best week was ever? Seventeen in
a day.
Speaker 5 (52:53):
That's that's a cool idea for three.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
You know what we gotta do. You're good at this.
We got to start a real pool for five.
Speaker 4 (53:00):
Real ye early, get on DraftKings.
Speaker 6 (53:02):
No, we wanted to do four thousand, but I was
picking like Thanksgiving, that's way past that already.
Speaker 5 (53:08):
I picked way past it too. It happened like ten days.
But I mean at four two to whatever.
Speaker 6 (53:14):
We're averaging like seventy sixty seventy a week, so it's
not gonna be that far away.
Speaker 5 (53:18):
Let's start. Let's get that formal five thousand next weekend.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
You can expect the formal announcement next weekend of the
tourney for the show.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
Yes, Winter gets a life.
Speaker 5 (53:30):
Can we make money on this? Like do betting and.
Speaker 6 (53:32):
You never make money. You give everything away. That's a
good point again, plumking, I will lose money fifty thank
you for noticing that.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
We'll give away a life back.
Speaker 5 (53:43):
Well, let's give away something cool like Lenny's call.
Speaker 3 (53:47):
Lenny Warner of course, while raising his hands and offering
to donate his car.
Speaker 4 (53:51):
Yeah, first prize.
Speaker 6 (53:54):
It's official and it's a three wheel life back car motorized.
Speaker 4 (53:59):
Listen to involved.
Speaker 3 (54:00):
You better write down this website w w dot net.
Pick up a copy of Arthur's book Sorry, can't just
lie and get yourself a life fact the original, no imitations,
no knockoffs. Get the original for God's sake, Go and
use the code m I T A M I T A.
Speaker 4 (54:20):
What does that stand for?
Speaker 1 (54:21):
Pack man in the arena?
Speaker 6 (54:25):
Excellent for Rick Fatcher one time you never thinks a pleasure?
Speaker 1 (54:31):
I'm blessed free donuts and coffee today. So there's a
big studio.
Speaker 8 (54:37):
Tony.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
Tony always provides sunshine and donuts and coffee.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
She would be the team mom. She's unpacking.
Speaker 5 (54:45):
Do you have oranges? We used to get that behalf like.
Speaker 3 (54:50):
So I think, well, we should talk about what's coming
up in the coming weeks because I think there's a
There has been a lot of excitement around, certainly around
this bill.
Speaker 4 (55:00):
HB. What was it?
Speaker 1 (55:03):
Five?
Speaker 4 (55:04):
More important?
Speaker 3 (55:05):
The Western Brian Mandrill Act, Western Brian Mandrel Act, and
the mess the Western Brian Mandrell Foundation.
Speaker 5 (55:12):
In any of the end of kids choking death from
school in our hopefully God willing, in the next year,
we get them in those schools and we never have
a kid choking it, never have one hundred kids. I
am on my wall one hundred names.
Speaker 3 (55:26):
In the state of Texas kicked us, kicked us off,
Tony an equal first DAID is involved in thirteen thirteen
other states and also to follow up, listen if you're
in these.
Speaker 1 (55:37):
I kicked us market agreed to it, but not kicked
us off. They agreed, they took it in.
Speaker 4 (55:43):
Did I take kicked it off? Yes, yes, kicked it in.
Speaker 5 (55:47):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (55:47):
Yeah. It's a lot of euphemism. We you know, mess
it up, we miss things up with the audience will
be misled. We don't want that. No, we want to
be clear.
Speaker 5 (55:55):
We want to properly lead.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
You want Ohio and Michigan and South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (55:59):
So let's go San Diego, l a Hot Dallas, New York,
and Allentown. Well, New York were already involved with these
other states. Let's get in touch with your state, Senator,
make sure that they have a billet made.
Speaker 5 (56:14):
Equal first date.
Speaker 4 (56:15):
Yeah, get in the game, Equal first day. Dot com game.
Speaker 3 (56:21):
Tony Libate spelled out Tony Libate at equal first day
dot com. Get in touch with Tony, help us, legislate,
help us and school. Help the kids who know no politics,
just want to live. They just want to grow up,
and then they choose their politics.
Speaker 4 (56:40):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (56:40):
And that's and that's about it. That's about any parting words.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
Remember their names, you know, I'm serious with the kids.
Speaker 5 (56:47):
Oh man, that's a good point. Beautiful that to that list.
Speaker 3 (56:53):
Yeah, that's pat for Arthur Lee. I'm Rick Thatcher and.
Speaker 1 (56:57):
And I'm going to summ Yeah.
Speaker 5 (57:00):
Show next week.
Speaker 4 (57:01):
Contest settled another.
Speaker 5 (57:02):
Customs we should incorporate that.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
We'll see how about micro takes us out. We'll see
you next week on the Man in the Arena.
Speaker 1 (57:08):
Yeah, it's no joke.
Speaker 2 (57:12):
When you choke to get life back and leave without breath,
they'll be death. To get life back and live bad,
Live back and Gad's life Live back, Life back, and
life back and
It's no joke.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
When you chokeget Life back and without breath, they'll be
death cigad, Life Back and.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Goad, Live Back.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
And Life Lie Back, Life Life Back.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
And Yeah, hey everyone, it's Rick thatcher Man in the arena.
I'm here with Arthur Lee Ceo, inventor of Life Back,
and Patrick O'Rourke, and we're so happy to be with
you this weekend. We're in San Diego, We're in Los Angeles, Houston, Orlando, Dallas,
New York, and of course not to.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Be forgotten Allentown, PA.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Times in your area.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
But how great is it?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
How exciting to be part of Arthur the fastest growing
podcasts in America?
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Well, you know it's cool because it's uh, it's working.
People like it. I mean, we are in the arena,
so it's not another show of what do you think
of other people in the Yeah? Well, yeah, exactly. And yeah,
what always bugged me is, you know, this opinion on
everything and having done nothing, you know, and it goes
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into the kind of the opening thoughts for today. You know,
we just did this insane motorcycle trip. Right.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Insane is a good, good word alive.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I followed it on Facebook.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Yeah so but you know throughout that there's always something
gurgling in my head, you know, and your teeth. Yeah, frocks,
but there was some rocks importance to the helmet.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Yeah, but our head cracking live style.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
But the thought was, you know, we had to fly in,
we had to drive five hours. You know, you're in
the sweat, dirt. It's not easy, you know. And then
you're you're going through seventy and you're on top of
a mountain looking out at this incredible country and world
and God, and it circulated to me. It goes back.
(02:00):
I think I was talking to you about skiing. Right,
it's pain the neck, you're tired, you kids are crying,
it's heavy, it's cold. Yeah, it's a freezing and you
take a run with your family and you get that
feeling and you're on top of the mountain. But in
a micro sense, things that are hard are great, right,
Like if you think about how hard life actor has been.
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We saved ten lives today.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
All right to that, Okay, that's okay for a rent
of a buss.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
We have a clap that the audience is not good.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
They're busting, they're busting.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
People earning a lot of peanut butter Today.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
They've almost gotten used to it, but we never can.
As you look at the details of some of the
lives saved, it becomes more than just the number.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
But here's what I wanted to post to you guys. Right,
So I was thinking in my life a lot of
hard things. But as growing up as a kid, Yeah,
my dad would make me do everything. I was the
indeentgured servant and that was my job and I understood
that as it should be. Yeah, problem with that. And
one year I had to break up the cement in
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the entire basement. I had to take a sledgehat. I
couldn't swing it full because basement was low, smashing into
little pieces. Put in a wheelbow, wheel it up out back,
dump it do the whole thing. Underneath was another floor
and my dad had the great idea, said we should
take that up too. Okay, another floor sister, she came
into scrape later she was involved in the scrape, was scraping.
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But the point was it was humongously difficult. And then
I had to break up the rocks and put them
back down. And it was a project. But two things. One,
since it was so hard, I was really proud of
it and my dad was proud of me. And to
this day that floor hasn't cracked. It's like ten feet thick.
And the cement guy was like, what are you going
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to do with drive it tanks down here? Because it
was landing. Yeah, his dad he was an engineer. But
think of something in life, not like work wise so much.
I think it's something that was hard. What was something.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Rearing a child?
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Yeah? No kid. Yeah, well that's great too, but that's
a good point. Yeah, but can you think of something YouTube,
something that you did that was really hard that afterwards
you were like, man, that that you know it was
worth it.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
I can always equate it to beginning a football season
with doubles and triples on hot days and you're like,
it's almost a survival thing.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
It's so hard. You just got to survive it when
you do. And we were lucky we had real good teams.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
It was like, you know, that was totally worth it,
right you when you're going through it, you're crying and
thing you doing this another kid?
Speaker 5 (04:35):
And I was not in the basement saying how proud
it was you. I had sweat and asbestos and cement
us all over me.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Does it make it does it make the result more sweet.
So for instance, life fact your journey twenty twelve invented
to twenty sixteen before life was saved, now incredible, you know,
blown past four thousand lives saved. You know, does that
time period that where the struggles were imminent every day to.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Make it more I think only because I had one.
It was for life, you know, and that thought that
knowing what the pain of loss in an instant is
and how devastating is. So it wasn't as conscious, right,
it was just keep going, work twenty hours a day,
stalk everyone in the world. Just keep going. But in
this case, do you have a story? Do you have
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something that you were there? A couple of things that
was really hard, two things perfectly younger, oh younger, because
this was a young homeowner.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I remember taking apart because I couldn't do anything to construct,
but I could destruct it. So I tore apart the bathroom,
the pool, and also took all the padeling off the.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Side of the house, which I knew. You know, it
was difficult.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
It wasn't pretty cut myself quite a bit, as anyone
who knows me, they not handy at all. So breaking
things down was much more or my style, but very
very difficult, but I knew the end result was going
to be a more beautiful home. And because the wife
was waiting, and you know what they say, happy life
or happy wife, happy life.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Okay, you're more of a decom man. I am exactly
take things apart. My Italian in laws roll. He's like, oh,
you're irish. You can pick up those rocks and move
them into We'll take care of the painting in the detail.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You're the you're the Idioto moves Yes.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Now does Kevin new generation? We have some of our
offspring in the audience. Does Kevin?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Now?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Do they get their hands dirty?
Speaker 6 (06:35):
Kevin is the least we call them country club towns.
He's more of a manager on construction sites than an
actual work that's smart.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
He goes, you're doing that wrong, watch your fingers, move
that over.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
But my oldest Connor more of a get his hands
dirty and handy Kevin's It.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Doesn't necessarily mean that, like you know, I know with
Jack growing up doing gymnastics, you know, I because for
me it was a little tough and I always threatened
or would uh threaten, you know, redoing the basement. Oh,
we have a cross space. It really be nasty. And
I have told her the story many times, but I
think that we have to be conscious kind of like fear. Right,
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we worry about fear. It's in the book, right, we
worry about fear. You're afraid to do something, but everything great.
You have to be afraid of. Having a child is
grace thing in the world. We're all scared when we
get this little thing and we got to take it home,
and that they're not going to help us anymore.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Very frightened.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
And the book Arthur references is of course, sorry can't
is a lie. You can go to life fact dot
net and pick up your own copy. Sorry can'ts Allie,
Life fact dot Net. And while you're there, hey, why
not pick up a Life Act Protect those you love?
Use codem I t A for a great discount and
you get the book. You get a Life Act to
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protect your family. And we've protected how how many units?
So we talk about the lives saves and we're over
well over four thousand, and then the number will come
up later in the show Ray preview. Mister three K
will give us the latest and greatest stories. But do
we know how many lives are protected, or how many
life facts have been dispersed, like.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Three million, three and a half million. I did the math.
You know, you like doing that.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
That's just like always say, though you hope you never
have to use it, but you want to have it
for sure.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
And later on the show, we're going to be talking
about how Texas has taken great measures to protect the
states to let.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
In because of the difficulty to get that passed and
getting a law passed, you know, And I.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
See you talking about difficult stuff.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Well, because I think we and it goes back to
the fear thing when I kind of ad that revelation
about fear. We fear things that are great. Right, you're
afraid to start that business, but if you do, then
you succeed. It's great, and that fear is part of it.
And I think we have to understand the importance of difficulty,
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of pain, of sacrifice. And in a good way. It
was what we just did being in the freaking hot
soun dirtle overs.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Back to Alive, Oh beat up, drop the drop the
e but Alive monumental. And I can't thank you enough
for the experience. I mean, getting to spend time with
certain members of the of the Life Back team. But
your family. Jackie was a rock star. Mike Singer's son
was a rock star.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Like you would have loved the comedy. Oh my god,
it was. You know. It's a bunch of guys just being.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And I'm great in hot weather. I'm great out in
the desert.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
It's good for you sweat.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Read the book and a meat lockers. You have to
be a desert.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
If I fell into dirt, it looked like a bread.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
And that's a good point. But that's paint.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
That's paint, such a pretty picture.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
But he remember, we take off our masks and like
our faith.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Like jockeys on a muddy day.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
It was a good California dust.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
We're talking with Arthur Lee, pad O Rourke and of
course i'm Rick Thatcher, the man in the arena. We're
going to have more talking about the Battle of Texas
and the great things that Tony Lebate's doing with Equal
First Aid, and we'll be back with more after this message.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
Hi.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
I'm Arthur Lee, CEO and inventor of Life Fact, a
simple choking rescue device that thirteen years ago was made
my garage to protect my daughter.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Now all of these lives have been saved thanks to
Life BacT, over four thousand lives and over two thousand kids.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
But still a child dies every five days from joking.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Please, our family is everything to us. Consider are protecting
your family in a choky emergency with life back Go
to life bac dot net today.
Speaker 8 (11:06):
Thanks Da.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Again, Sorry, and we're back on the man in the
arena and now the woman in the arena. Tony Lebate
a vehicle first aid just tremendous works she always does.
But the big win this week, Texas takes old action
on choking emergencies with HB five forty nine. Life BacT
supports this new law, of course, and it's called the
Western Brian Mandrel Act. And we'll talk more about the
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mess the Western Brian Mandrell Foundation which we reached out
to and they must be, you know, over the moon
with the success. So Tony Lebate welcome as always a
frequent flyer here We always welcome you.
Speaker 8 (11:44):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
How gratifyed the The intro discussion was about the difficulty,
but I mean, obviously let's celebrate for a second and
explain you know, the family and what what it was
transpired and you know the fact that the Texas the
first and only eighty eight compliance state.
Speaker 8 (12:06):
Totally, so Texas was slow going at first.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
It the representative was, yeah, we're going to draft it,
We're going to put it in, and this is what
he kept following it, please, you have to put a
bill in. And then finally we found out that his
own daughter had choked. And I didn't hear it directly,
but that was the story. His daughter choked, and the
bill then became a priority. So November of twenty twenty
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four he then did put the bill in. So from
November twenty four till now, it took seven months for
a law to get past in Texas, so that really
went fast. So it passed the House. There was opposition
that you know, was on record, and we were really
nervous about that.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
But you know what the opposition was.
Speaker 9 (12:49):
The opposition was from the Nurses Association and they just
were worried about the training and just did not approve
of the bill wording, et cetera. And then the two
set next to each other, Debbie Mandrel and the Nurses Association,
and then Debbie came up and of course told her
heartbreaking story and the hearing you know, went on and
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it quickly moved out of that Education Committee and quickly
got picked up by the Senate, and it just it
was just an exciting time to see all that it
had to be read two and three times and just
to watch it move.
Speaker 8 (13:26):
You can see you can see like the.
Speaker 9 (13:27):
Little data moving along you know online, which was really exciting.
Speaker 8 (13:32):
And it was just very fast.
Speaker 9 (13:33):
But the slowest part was it got sent to the
governor on June second, and it was like, what what
happens and could he veto it?
Speaker 8 (13:42):
And it was the googling.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Yeah, but you have any stayed seven you've worked on
over the last ten years, almost.
Speaker 8 (13:48):
Thirteen, no, thirteen, so yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Tell us a little bit though about them. Grandmother, the
grandmother who was the strongest advocation.
Speaker 9 (13:58):
Yes, Western so Western Mandrel's foundation. Yes, the grandmother. Once
I told her that there was a hearing, she immediately
she spent the entire day she got there. She waited
because that was the day. I don't know if you
guys remember, the hearing took place very late in the afternoon,
and we waited all day long, and so the family
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was there all day. Finally, you know, she was able to,
you know, tell her story. So she's been following it,
she's been asking if they could be named the Western
mandrel Act, and advocating with us.
Speaker 8 (14:33):
And also with Aaron Born.
Speaker 9 (14:35):
So we constantly just stayed together, stayed on top, kept
everybody informed and you know, let's move this along.
Speaker 8 (14:41):
We have to move this bill now.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
It was he was eighteen months old Western? Was it
in a day care facility or a school Saturday?
Speaker 8 (14:48):
I have to be honest, I don't know, you know,
I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Right, but it's it's appropriate that their loss, which and
we have other families that have exhibited this like just
selflessness to advocate for those that you know, so that
others don't have to suffer the same.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Say, think about the difficulty story. They have to go
through the most difficult thing, losing a child, and any
whatever they did would be accept will never talk go
you know, just whatever, right it would be hard to
say you have to do something, And they pushed through,
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particularly in this case, to help get legislation passed to
save others. So if you tie it into the beginning
of breaking up a house or wrecking it or going
football camp, the power of fighting through that difficulty has
now made a state law that makes all schools safe,
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even particularly for people with disabilities because they have no option.
And they took that pain and now turned on to
saving lives. And as it changes and it goes through
the states and we stop losing numerous kids every year
to choking, they're courage to battle through the pain for
something great is the underlying theme, you know, And I
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think that's important. People need to know that there will
be pain that will be sacrificed. It is going to
be hard, but if it's worth doing, those are going
to be requirements.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
It'd be interesting to.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
See what states now fall in line, not only with
the legislation that is starting in place, because I believe
there's thirteen total states including Texas, but now which others
will say, you know, this is the path.
Speaker 9 (16:35):
So as far as you know West Western Mandrel's Act,
where we have other states, for example, I would love
to see Mavericks legacy onto their bill this coming year.
We have New Jersey, right, we have Bowen's Law, Bowen
Levy Law, which would be in Maryland that they're drafting.
(16:56):
Now we have oh goodness, there's there's so many well,
Kentucky is yeah, Landon's hope which passed the Assembly but
got stalled in the Senate, so that's going to be
reintroduced into another committee.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
I went there when he passed, and I met the family.
I have done it often because I don't see how
you can kind of give your condolences in a zoom call.
They live out in the middle of nowhere, a beautiful family.
And he was such a cool kid, Like he was
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a big old farm boy, you know. And the interesting
thing about him is he had done a drawing and
he said when he grew up, he wanted to invent
something that firefighters could use to save lives. Like he
actually drew that out, and there was I have a
picture of what he drew in writing that. And you know,
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there recovery slash turned into fighting through the difficulty to
make his dream come true. And once again it's going
through that pain. But to think about the fact all
these states have a child's death.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Are they all attached to a horrendous story for these
other states.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
That we may or may not be in. You know,
is there one in California?
Speaker 8 (18:18):
No, there's not one in California.
Speaker 9 (18:20):
But we did have a family reach out to life
back and then reach out to me where they would
like to see it in South Carolina. So I do
have families that want to have bills put in and
we've been trying. We've been trying in Ohio, Michigan. But
we just need that one representative that's going to say
I want to do this, just like Maryland. Maryland was
quick to drop to.
Speaker 8 (18:40):
Pop on board.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Isn't it sad that it took Costco or it took
these states to have action. Let's pay attention to what's
gone on in Texas and the big win and get
out ahead of it before you have a child lost.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
So we have in Maryland.
Speaker 9 (18:58):
We didn't find out about a choking triad until recently,
but he passed in twenty nineteen. So it takes all
these years for their lawsuits to settle, et cetera where
they can finally come public. So that Maryland is not
afraid to say put life acts in every single school. Actually,
the representative can't wait to meet the team and to
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meet you, and he had says to me, he just
wants to shake his hand and hug his neck, Hu,
hug his neck, and.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
So yeah, and he was just quick, tight, nice and tight, ant.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I'll do it for it again, fact doesn't do anything
for the intentional choker.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
This is a hug we're talking about.
Speaker 9 (19:40):
Yeah, so that stay picked up. But I know that
we run across oppositions. We have so many hurdles, and
I do want to share one. So one minute Maryland
is hopping on board, and less than twenty four hours
I had gotten a call saying, well, hey, that's great.
We can't follow what Texas did, so do you you
have any other states that passed? So now now there's
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a political party. You know, there's a political you know,
this comes more ridiculous. So right, so there's no there's
no exactly, and there's no blue, there's no red. I'm
not purposely going after a certain state because of the representative.
But all I know is when I want to help
a family put a bill in, we have to have
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the right representative.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
For example, Uh.
Speaker 9 (20:28):
Pennsylvania, we have to we have to move on. We
just have to move on and ask for another representative
to please take on this very.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Critical But here's the ridiculous thing.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
And I got this way back when I first thought
at Saladino as some woman and Vendetto is our center,
and uh, you know, I can't help it. I wanted
you to like it. I we wanted to present the
stupidity and say, here's a bill that requires schools to
obey federal law. So we're gonna have a law that
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hires you to obey the law, and if it doesn't
work with another law that says you have to obey
the law, to obey the law because the law, the
federal law did you have to have equal policy, procedure,
and equipment for those with disabilities. Every school has a
great choking post, a guy standing up. They're doing a
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great No policy, no procedure, no training is against the law.
So the ridiculousness of the difficulty to get a law
where they're already breaking the law. Turns out that the
government is really great and not obeying the law. They
love enforcing the law on other people. God forbid, you say, hey,
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you're not obanying the law. Suddenly that doesn't matter. Really amazing,
I mean, is that the frustration of.
Speaker 9 (21:53):
It's so frustrating and just to and again the slow
going and yes, yes, yes we haven't had Colorado, who
was only drafted it. But I had gotten a phone
call from the Senator that said we were out to dinner.
We were all our colleagues and we were at a
table and a woman choked, but her daughter was there
and was able to save her, and we did not
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know what to do.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
So this is a priority, but it's still sitting. The
draft is still sitting.
Speaker 9 (22:19):
So we just need Like we said, Texas went, But
now do I have to play the game of well,
who's now?
Speaker 8 (22:25):
I have to do research now who's read Who's blue?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
We don't want to do so Maryland has actually stated
that because Texas passed this, we can't follow.
Speaker 8 (22:33):
This is what I got.
Speaker 9 (22:34):
I had to write this down. So yesterday I had
a phone conversation. I said, I'm sharing the news. It
was a few messages I left, but I finally got
through and he said, that's really great news.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
But we have to do you have New York? Do
you have I don't know if you said Pennsylvania.
Speaker 9 (22:50):
Whatever it was, you know, no, No, this was yeah, Maryland,
do you have another state?
Speaker 8 (22:55):
Another blue state? Because we don't.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
If we put a bill in, no one's going to
vote for it. And I said, that's just you know, heartbreaking,
and you know chosing choking, choking, you know, doesn't discriminate.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
He will say shame on you, but shame on them.
Speaker 9 (23:08):
This is the wording he used to me. So I
wrote it down because this is exactly what it is.
He said to me, Well, that's the nature of the beast,
and that's exactly what.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Let's change it because you talked about the opposition that
there was opposition, and it turned out it was nurses
with a valid concern that their opposition was, hey, we
want to make sure everyone's trained properly. It wasn't well,
you know, the other side wants it, or it's attached
to someone that may or may not have spoken to
doctor Ben Carson, or you know how many other examples
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we have of just absurd.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
If the drawn ridiculous lines is continue disobeyed federal law
and put children at risk, because.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
So you are like a perfect place for it to stop,
right it is.
Speaker 9 (23:55):
Life actually has six saves. In Senator Markland's district, which
is Wisconsin. Wisconsin was afraid to keep moving the bill
along because some of the members were the governor was
part of DPI and if DPI was going to oppose
the bill, which they did is Department of Public Instruction.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
They were opposing the bill. The governor was once a
part of that. The bill died, it went nowhere. So
that's what's heartbreaking.
Speaker 9 (24:27):
And the senator has six saves now in his own
districts with six.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
With a life Act exactly well, you know what.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
It could speak touned. I guess goes in with the
difficult discussion. When did someone say I don't care, I'm
going to make this happen. Red, blue, Green.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Hasn't been like this, or there wouldn't be any fire
extinguishers in the schools right right, at some point they
actually worked together and got things done.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
This is ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
But you know what's crazy too, it's not a political
saying we haven't had multiple children die in the school
in fire since nineteen fifty, but there's a hundred kids
of choked to death in schools where I started. So
when we sit here and we say, well, that state
is landing because he died, and we say, you know
in Africa, it's Maverick in and uh ROI in Pennsylvania,
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you could name a kid in every state. Hello. That
means it happens a lot. You know, it's not a
federal bill for one kid. It's each state has a child,
and they have multiple children.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
New York.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
I think seven have died in school, and enough with
this red blue green, Why can't we pick something to
get back on track? And all agree that exactly right?
And plus the fact that children with disabilities who morally
we deserve to give them special consideration only because there
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is nothing like really, I mean, myth guy is going
nuts slightly.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Myth guy is making in appearance lads and gentleman without
and he warning. But you could see it coming. You
could see the reason why Mytha is here. Smoke is
coming out of Arthur Lee's ears as we speak, and
rightfully so we joke about it, but it is serious.
It's something to get behind. And as Pat said, unite.
Let's when we say there's more that unites this than
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divides us. It's sometimes hard to see that, but you
know what, we'll.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Get a feeling like some reality is coming back. Yes,
is another boost to getting back to common sense and
humanity and right even.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
If like we I jumped on this journey with you guys,
but like we meet these families. The father, right, I
think it was a maverick. He drives around giving out
life backs. You know, this guy he lost his son,
buys it fills his carp and goes to places and
gives them out. There's so many stories like that of
families like just people just I don't know if this
is their way of grieving or getting Oh you know,
but how are we not listening to these people?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
How is this not more of a I don't know?
Speaker 5 (27:00):
But and then what happened to the the fortitude and
courage of our great leaders to do what's right? Regardless?
I can't vote for it because I'm a Democrat or
are you kidding me? I mean that would be punching
the face material like I couldn't. I don't know. If
I could control myself, i'd say you should not be
in public office, could you believe it or not? You're
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supposed to be servicing us.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Well, I think so many people have gone through that struggle,
and that's why they're doing it themselves. That's why they're
filling their own car with life acts and going out
in hand. Now they are absolutely get the government to
do it. But you know what, why there they always
get my hero logo. They went through the ultimate pain
and they're doing it so you don't feel what they felt.
I mean, talk about persevering through difficult and looking at
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the other side. I mean Maverick, he counts. I think
he's got like five or six that he is directed.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Yeah, and that means his little son was responsible for
all those kids being alive, and he knows those people
didn't have to feel.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
On one show, he talked to us from a car
driving to another place that told over and he's like, yeah,
I'm going to another farm and can give out ten.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
And wasn't Wisconsin the state that had the brilliant question
about cost which caused you to make the.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Famous statement I'll give them to you. And that that.
Speaker 9 (28:21):
Was on an anniversary of a child Sam that died
in their school.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
It was just a sixty year anniversary.
Speaker 9 (28:29):
So on the sixth year anniversary of that child dying
in school, we had the hearing and the.
Speaker 8 (28:34):
Room was heavy, right, the room was heavy, and.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
We saw the video.
Speaker 8 (28:38):
Yeah you know you lost.
Speaker 9 (28:40):
Some lost their child, some saved their child, and and
the word coupon came up, code what what can you
do for us?
Speaker 8 (28:47):
So he did.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
It freak great.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Opportunity was heavy too, Yeah, you know what a lot
of what did he just say? We have a lot
of calls to action and we're gonna we're up against
the break. But I'm asking for the folks of San Diego,
Los Angeles, Houston, Orlando, Dallas, New York, and Allentown get
in touch with your state senator and let them know
that the common sense yeah both sides. Let them know
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that there should be a life back in every school,
and even a law to obey the law mores common
sense thinking.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
After this break, No.
Speaker 8 (29:36):
She started to choke on a piece of candy.
Speaker 10 (29:38):
She wasn't breathing.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Then Ray reached for the life back and it saved her.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
She could have easily died that day. A life back
saved her life.
Speaker 10 (29:47):
What I would say is, don't need a life back
and not have it. Have a life back and hopefully
never need it.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Recently, the American Red Cross has added anti joking devices
as an option. Once they and a protocol fails is
not feasible, go.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
To life back dot Net called eight seven seven, five
four three three eight two two.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Hey, welcome back to the man in the arena and
the women in the arena.
Speaker 8 (30:12):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
It was it was Teddy Roosevelt who came up with
the quote, and unfortunately he wasn't of diversity of thought
as much as.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
We just because we used to be able to. That
was good, That was okay. But I do like when
you say and the women and the women because these
two are worried.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Well, we are joined. I'm Rick Thatcher along with Arthur Lee.
We're joined by Tony Lebate, equal first Aid, and of
course Heidi Felix, vice president of sales for Life Back
and Heidi, welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
A frequent A frequent guest.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
No, I think that title is almost condescending compared to
the heart and soul.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
What she does and the fire of Life Back and Drive.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
So you're saying change of change of change of title.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Live, Hey, I'm the president. What am I?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I'm CEO and the inventor forgot that?
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Good for me?
Speaker 3 (31:03):
So so it's on the heels of on the heels
of the Texas wind. We immediately start looking at and
now we mentioned about the unfortunate communication you had with Maryland.
But now we have these other states that have bills
in progress on a neighbor.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Working on this year of course, and you know we've
been back and forth. I mean I've been in moth obviously,
I went to Wisconsin. We want to all been I've
been in there to put a freaking joke up places,
and uh but I think that with Heidi particular, to
talk a little bit about, you know, the difficulty of
getting a bill this simple and this mom basically do
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a better lord and protect kids with disabilities. How hard
would that?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
It's more difficult than school rock. I'm just a bill bill.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Yeah, well it assigned your bill, your law.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yeah, yeah, Well it's interesting.
Speaker 11 (31:58):
Tony and I went to Threaten, New Jersey and we
were there to testify, and we had of course Maverick's parents,
and we had Darren and Kim, and we also had
some families who actually had lost their son unfortunately, had
choked to death on a bus and he was in
a wheelchair.
Speaker 8 (32:18):
So when we got up to.
Speaker 11 (32:19):
Testify, you know, I had to address, you know, the
animal in the room, which was the fact that this
boy had choked it up on a bus without you know,
anybody there to resuscitate him. And so we were talking
about having it in schools, but having it on the
transportation vehicles is paramount too, because how many of us
send our kids with a snack or you haven't fed
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him in the morning, or now they have a snack
on the way home.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
And you know, I don't.
Speaker 11 (32:43):
Think these bus drivers are equipped and understand, you know,
what they have to do in order to save them,
and especially this child was in a wheelchair, right, And
I walked up to the parents and I did exactly
what you would have done, Arthur, if you're there, and.
Speaker 8 (32:55):
I gave like cried, and I gave them.
Speaker 11 (32:59):
I gave him a bit and I said, I never
want this to happen to anyone else. And that was
his twin sister was there. She also was in a wheelchair.
Speaker 9 (33:06):
But I do want to add that they delivered that
child back to the family unresponsive. So yeah, they just
delivered the baby, the boy and just said that, you know,
we don't know what's happening.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Just how many games have been working on Jersey?
Speaker 8 (33:22):
Oh Jersey.
Speaker 9 (33:23):
Uh the e f A is four years now, but
that bill was in there before Equal first Date was incorporated.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah right, yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
How long were you there that day?
Speaker 10 (33:33):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (33:33):
That was a fun day. That was another.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
It's fun.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
He is very difficulty difficult. It was it was that
was that's bad.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I was you know, the thing is like Jaggie.
Speaker 11 (33:47):
Yeah, well, you know, I just adore Tony and I
think she's doing amazing work, and so just the ability
to thank you with yeah, she's amazing. And that was
what I loved was the heartfelt testimony that came from
Darren and can. I mean that was just and he
actually has eight staves by the way, Darren, Yeah he
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shared those.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yeah, amazing.
Speaker 11 (34:15):
But the challenge, I mean, I think when Tony and
I spent another twelve hours in New York City in
front of City Hall and we met with the amazing
councilwoman Christy Mamorado and her chief of staff, April, which
they are movers and shakers. They do not fear opposition,
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and Christy is driven by the fact that her grandfather
choked it up in a restaurant.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
But think about this too, and you're right, you need
the right representative to get to what we're talking about.
That's willing to fight and not give up and not
ben and if there was a cause to do so
and to cross the aisle kill someone, this would be
the case.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
But right about a.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Road bill, of course, whether it put stops ons up
to fight, whatever, you all think that.
Speaker 9 (35:04):
Because we have there's twelve hundred, two thousand bills every session,
so it just we're just a number. So we need
that representative not not to look at this as a number.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Right, Yeah, but it just some of the kind of
casual way they were treating you and the whole. Even
in Wisconsin, I had a combination of anger and emotional draining.
Like we just heard four people talk about losing their child,
you know, as they in Pennsylvania school, Sam in Wisconsin school,
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the Brugman's in Wisconsin home, Like.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
How many how does that many have to die?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Right?
Speaker 5 (35:43):
And you know, five thousand years one child. It's common
happens all the time. One hundred kids have died in school,
and they you feel like they have no soul, right,
It's not like they're paying attention like oh my god,
we need to do something.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
You party have from it and think about the life.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Like checking their phone according that this one when miss
contin and well, you know we we have it's sixty
nine dollars. You know, you're spending gazillions of dollars on
all sorts of things in sixty and have a car wash,
bake sale, click.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Cans or request one.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
How give it you?
Speaker 5 (36:20):
How's that that works too?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
You're talking about the life back on www. Dot life
back dot net.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Get your Yeah, my punkins had just exploded again.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
He doesn't even like, let's be honest, he doesn't even
like talking about that thing, right.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Right, But that's yeah, I'm getting no, no, don't do it.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
Who's on the line. It's our fight.
Speaker 9 (36:43):
I just want to add, you know how, we're talking
about a champion representative. So Pennsylvania with Isaiah and Steve Maddox,
the Maddox family, that bill went to a hearing. We
got to the hearing, and our representative walked away from
it because.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
That was another level of evil, right.
Speaker 9 (36:59):
That was that that kind of made me look at
things a little differently. And that's why if you're not
going to give us the time of day, if it's
going to take four years, we got to move on.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
So that's that's but also pay but also misinformation from
from certain parties that may just have evil intentions.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Well think about it.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
It's a feather in your cap if you do this bill,
but if it gets a little ruggy, you just walk away.
You need someone like us that says I'm never walking away.
I will look in your window at night and scare
you and you have done with Yeah, yeah, yeah, sleep
on the floor in front of.
Speaker 9 (37:33):
The representative and our attorneys here. I won't keep the
story too long. But the representative the day before, it
was even a weekend before the hearing, decided to walk away.
Because his colleague was a highly regarded emergency room physician.
He had opposition. So we were going back and forth
in this little match. But he said to me, after
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working on it all these years that basically they wouldn't
represent equal First Aid because because they don't have enough
wheelchair students students in wheelchairs in their schools. And I
had to as he's talking to me, all you have
to do is google it, and I said, Representative, there's
three hundred and sixty four thousand wheelchair users in Pennsylvania.
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And there you know what in Pennsylvania. You know, like
we have to get him in all the schools.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
And because it's just a.
Speaker 8 (38:21):
Match, and he's like, well, give me the number.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
To hear this, I want to drive.
Speaker 8 (38:26):
Yeah, well we're going to We're going to get Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Can we punch someone in the face?
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Is on?
Speaker 7 (38:40):
Those are just the opposite across the throat.
Speaker 9 (38:42):
We have to know about the opposition, But how ridiculous
it's horrible.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
And you know what the federal law doesn't say.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
You know, you have to have equal opportunity, facilities and
policy and procedure. It's once in a while someone comes in.
That's not the way it works, because you got students,
you got staff, you got faculty, you got visitors, and
you know they don't not open the door so a
child can get him in a wheelchair until.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
They have one.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
This is the way it works. Plus the fact that
the Red Cross recommends it when protocol fails.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
And it does fail and.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
If it's not feasible, so they cover both. Meaning if
the child, you know, a fit, regular child chokes and
it doesn't work, you can save them. And if there
is a special needs child, whether it's a scoliosis brace
as simple as that. How many kids in school have that.
It doesn't have to be a wheelchair for the current
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policy and procedure not to be able to be done.
Speaker 11 (39:43):
The point is, like my son wound up at aclchair,
was in a wheelchair because he was a football player.
Speaker 8 (39:47):
I mean, he was an atypical student.
Speaker 11 (39:50):
It wasn't like he was disabled, but he wound up
in a wheelchair for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 8 (39:54):
So you know, I mean, it happens all the time.
Speaker 11 (39:56):
I think what I was the most disturbed about in
that whole New York City Council thing is the fact
that they literally, in the very beginning, the councilwoman said,
is there any opposition to the bill that I'm introducing?
Speaker 8 (40:10):
No opposition.
Speaker 11 (40:11):
The Chancellor of New York City Schools was there, her
first chancellor. All of them are sitting at a table.
Four hours Tony and I sat there waiting to testify.
Then we get up there and of course there's opposition, right,
So I had to address the animal in the room,
which is, well, until it's FDA approved, we just don't
feel comfortable implementing it, so you're just going to let
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children die. And on the line was fifteen of our
advocates waiting all that time to be able to zoom
in right. One of them happened to be our friend,
Vivian Fitzgerald, who is a Department of Education employee, was
sitting with her superintendent of her school district, waiting to
testify for four and a half hours. Okay, So to me,
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that's what I felt was not right and backfull, you know,
And because all of them waited, I mean, Jen Glenn,
I mean, Ray is heartful.
Speaker 8 (41:07):
They just and there are seen fifteen of them, fifteen
of them.
Speaker 11 (41:11):
And then we had two people sitting next to us
who were complete strangers, also supporting the bell because they
were Eric Eric Ryan.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
Oh my god. But think about this too. This isn't
for them. They just don't want either to happen or
they know, like Jen Or and some of the people
that had to say Ray Ray, could Bailey get through
the story without breaking down because we are so grateful
that he has his child because of it. But in
the real world that's so powerful. They're not promoting probably
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we're not trying to. They get the EpiPen every year
because it's good and it's a pharmaceutical drug. I don't
know who is there to represent for the EpiPen, but.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
Time they got done.
Speaker 11 (41:53):
All these things get done, and they are more expensive
than our device.
Speaker 5 (41:57):
Well also regulated, just like we are.
Speaker 8 (42:00):
Well Vivian. Her statement was, I am a teacher.
Speaker 11 (42:04):
I wouldn't be here if that incident happened while I
was in the school. I had that life backt at
my home and I used it to save my own life,
and my son performed the abdominal thrust and it didn't work.
And Vivian, who I've known for over twenty years, I
can't even imagine her not being here, right, and the
idea that her testimony and every testimony was very powerful, Kim,
(42:28):
you know Chambers, Darren Chambers. And they cut Darren off literally,
you know, after that three minute mark.
Speaker 8 (42:35):
So I think.
Speaker 11 (42:37):
It wasn't anything that our console woman, who was very
passionate and amazing, she said, I don't agree with the
way that they handled it, and we just we don't
condone that kind of behavior. We're very sorry, Hidi.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Sorry, everything's moving though, right, this is a movie positive
because I was thinking, you know, when we hear it,
as long as it's not a smoke screen, you have concerns.
Welcome it, you know, welcome is questions about training, questions
about inmation, even questions about what the FDA thinks the
heart register.
Speaker 8 (43:06):
What was heartbreaking? It was, you say, four or five hours.
Speaker 9 (43:09):
I don't know if we got on until six o'clock,
but Heidi and I were the only two left in
the room and she was like, should we leave? And
I said so now, and then there's two councils people left.
We would watch them, pack their backpacks, close, close their
name down and walk out. And at one point, so
at one point, and I'm sorry for Ray, but we
(43:32):
couldn't see the waiting room.
Speaker 8 (43:33):
But when Ray was speaking, it was very, very touching.
Speaker 9 (43:39):
But the council did not pay attention to his testimony
and we were blown away, and the officer in arms
actually tried to get their attention to cut it out.
So the two women were, you know, leaning into each other,
scrolling on their phone, laughing, and he tried not not
about our testimony, but just about just whatever they were doing.
(43:59):
So at the end, Heidi said, you know, should we
be staying here? And I said, well, we have fifteen
people that have been waiting all day. Obviously you know
we're gonna wait for everybody's testimony. But at the end,
when they said, you know, boom meeting is over, I
went up to them and just said, you know, how
are you going to vote? Like, how will you know
all the support? Oh, well, it's online, it's taped, we'll
(44:20):
listen to it back. But to me, you're having a
hearing for all New York City schools to have airway
clearance devices. But in New York City they want to
life back in every single school and then if she
gets re elected, she would love to see it in
every restaurant. But the people that we were before did
were disrespectful and all I hear as well, welcome to
(44:41):
New York. This is you know this, we see it
every day and that was just heartbreaking.
Speaker 5 (44:45):
But when I see too, you know there's three hundred,
one hundred bills and what is the thermometer? This is
for kids to be alive in school? Now, that should
be up there in New York. I remember the last
time it was a big thing that the dead bugs
on mattresses law passed, and I'm like, all right, that's great,
(45:07):
I take care of the bugs. I don't really care
because I don't know if the laws get the private
but I think children being alive in school, particularly those
with disabilities, should be kind of up there on the
top of the critical to talk about. That should be
the first building talk about.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Absolutely, we've been talking with Heidi Felix, Tony Labate, Arthur Lee.
Of course we know him sometimes as smiff guy, but
that's okay. He deserves to be and I'm a fracturably
be back with more man in the arena including mister
Ray preby three thousand after this.
Speaker 12 (45:36):
Message protect your family by life Back Now.
Speaker 5 (45:54):
That was us over ten years ago.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Now life Back is responsible for saving over four thousand
lives from choke and the time it.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
Takes you to pick up the phone and call another
life could be saved.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
The Life Facts saved my life in one two seconds.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
Protecting families has always been our mission. I'm sure you
love your family like I love my daughter. Do a
soulo favor and get your own life back now.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Go to lifefact dot net or call eight seven seven
life Back order Now. Enough protein for god sex see you.
You're heading out right yet I think he's.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Going to Oh my goodness, we're back discussing what Kevin
O'Rourke is doing this Yes on Social Plans back after
the breaks to the commercial, Welcome back to the man
in the arena. You're in San Diego, You're in La Houston, Orlando, Dallas,
New York and of course Allentown, PA.
Speaker 4 (46:42):
Song made famous by I think even it was famous before.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
Uh but anyway, Billy really put them on the map
and they were all proud of that song.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
Enough of this, let's get to the final segment. Of
the man in the arena.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
We welcome as always mister three Hey, Reino.
Speaker 10 (47:10):
Jan of the arena. Good evening to all of you.
How y'all doing tonight? What oh man, what a great
show tonight. I love listening to Tony.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Was that last segment that was great?
Speaker 11 (47:22):
Wow?
Speaker 10 (47:24):
Let me tell you we waited a very long time
to speak to a very little crowd.
Speaker 5 (47:28):
It was.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
It was amazing.
Speaker 5 (47:30):
That sounds like one of your slogans.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (47:33):
Yeah, absolutely, a comedy career, A long time to talk
to you.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Very little crowd, Yes, very little crowd.
Speaker 10 (47:42):
That's right, that's right. We all we got the good
numbers for you, guys.
Speaker 5 (47:47):
How in the heart of life backers, it shows you
there you were telling keep going.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
It's hard.
Speaker 5 (47:54):
All these people that are there. They're not there to
save the Democratic kids, the Republican kids.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
They are there independent.
Speaker 4 (48:05):
Those not the Irish.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
Again.
Speaker 5 (48:09):
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
Here the letter's coming.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
We call him mister three thousand because he saved his
daughter on the side of a Florida highway.
Speaker 4 (48:18):
More than three three thousand save.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 10 (48:21):
Ye, amazing, absolutely, and folks, I come to you whenever
there's a show usually every week to give you the
rundown of the numbers. So, uh, Bobby, do do we
have a slide tonight?
Speaker 5 (48:33):
Bobby?
Speaker 3 (48:34):
I guess here comes little my life back.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
What is that reported?
Speaker 5 (48:42):
I'll take leave it?
Speaker 4 (48:46):
And fifty seven lives?
Speaker 10 (48:49):
Wow the crowd a pretty good number. But guys, wonders wrong,
numbers wrong. I thought wonder number wrong guys. Then I
was amazing to the new number that that Donna had
just sent me. Not too long ago, we got more
live save? How many today? Twelve lives save?
Speaker 1 (49:11):
Now we got twelve?
Speaker 5 (49:12):
We had tuesdays today.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
What's the record for a day?
Speaker 10 (49:16):
I want to say it's fourteen fourteen or sixteen fourteen
or sixteen.
Speaker 4 (49:25):
That's amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
So what is the official number?
Speaker 10 (49:29):
The official number four thousand, two hundred sixty three saves
two thousand, six hundred and three children.
Speaker 4 (49:42):
Wow.
Speaker 10 (49:43):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (49:49):
Oh, by the way, just for the record, the total
in a day is seventeen saves.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
W wow.
Speaker 6 (49:56):
Seventeen So yeah, is that a sausage in a Pepps festival?
Speaker 10 (50:06):
That's right, that's right, All right, Well, I'm going to
run into the highlight of the week because that is
a good one. Folks. And it's right here in my
home state. It's only about an hour away. Naples, Florida. Naples, Florida, Naples, Florida.
An eighty nine year old man from Naples was choking
on a piece of steak. My parents and I live
in the same house. My mother came over to my
(50:28):
side of the house to tell me that my father
was choking. I ran to him and immediately got my
life back. His face and hands were turning blue. I
knew time was of the essence. My mom called nine
one one, and I started the heimlight. I used the
life back device twice in the state was dislodged, and
(50:48):
he regained his color back. Our great first responders arrived
and took his vitals in, et cetera. I purchased the
life back as a pre cautionary measure to have in
case anyone in my family or household would ever have
an issue requiring it. I'm thankful to life Back and
(51:10):
and God that my father is Okay. There you go, folks,
another state for life back.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
There's that God.
Speaker 5 (51:18):
Hey, Ray, did you did you see the video the
guy we met when we were out motorcycling that we.
Speaker 10 (51:23):
Just did not see that video?
Speaker 5 (51:25):
Oh my god, it just it's you know, we all
get that, Oh my goodness, what an amazing moment feeling.
But we ran into him. He worked there, he was
out back and he came in. He was like, thank you,
it saved my life, you know, three times times.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
And wow.
Speaker 5 (51:43):
You always get the emotion when you tell your story,
and I appreciate it. It makes it so sincere. And that
just that same feeling of he was turning blue and
someone's saying like, when they write the little paragraph like that,
you really feel it. And when that guy told me,
we just cried en up and uh but we got
mister thousands and keep us in line here and give
(52:04):
us those updates.
Speaker 4 (52:06):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 10 (52:07):
Somebody's got to Yeah, that's right, somebody got to here.
I go far better to have it and never need
it than need it and never have it. The life
you save could be your own.
Speaker 5 (52:22):
How black like go dead job, We'll do the next
good God speed that guy.
Speaker 4 (52:29):
Awesome, he's the best.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
And when you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (52:32):
Politics with a red and blue issue, we could say,
when you're turning red or blue, you'll meet us.
Speaker 4 (52:37):
Wow, that ray is he still there?
Speaker 1 (52:40):
He's looking at godless.
Speaker 5 (52:43):
Somebody, Yes, could you probably go? I think you go
red to blue.
Speaker 6 (52:48):
So I want to now, I want to list stats.
I wonder what the best week was ever? Seventeen in
a day.
Speaker 5 (52:53):
That's that's a cool idea for three.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
You know what we gotta do. You're good at this.
We got to start a real pool for five.
Speaker 4 (53:00):
Real ye early, get on DraftKings.
Speaker 6 (53:02):
No, we wanted to do four thousand, but I was
picking like Thanksgiving, that's way past that already.
Speaker 5 (53:08):
I picked way past it too. It happened like ten days.
But I mean at four two to whatever.
Speaker 6 (53:14):
We're averaging like seventy sixty seventy a week, so it's
not gonna be that far away.
Speaker 5 (53:18):
Let's start. Let's get that formal five thousand next weekend.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
You can expect the formal announcement next weekend of the
tourney for the show.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
Yes, Winter gets a life.
Speaker 5 (53:30):
Can we make money on this? Like do betting and.
Speaker 6 (53:32):
You never make money. You give everything away. That's a
good point again, plumking, I will lose money fifty thank
you for noticing that.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
We'll give away a life back.
Speaker 5 (53:43):
Well, let's give away something cool like Lenny's call.
Speaker 3 (53:47):
Lenny Warner of course, while raising his hands and offering
to donate his car.
Speaker 4 (53:51):
Yeah, first prize.
Speaker 6 (53:54):
It's official and it's a three wheel life back car motorized.
Speaker 4 (53:59):
Listen to involved.
Speaker 3 (54:00):
You better write down this website w w dot net.
Pick up a copy of Arthur's book Sorry, can't just
lie and get yourself a life fact the original, no imitations,
no knockoffs. Get the original for God's sake, Go and
use the code m I T A M I T A.
Speaker 4 (54:20):
What does that stand for?
Speaker 1 (54:21):
Pack man in the arena?
Speaker 6 (54:25):
Excellent for Rick Fatcher one time you never thinks a pleasure?
Speaker 1 (54:31):
I'm blessed free donuts and coffee today. So there's a
big studio.
Speaker 8 (54:37):
Tony.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
Tony always provides sunshine and donuts and coffee.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
She would be the team mom. She's unpacking.
Speaker 5 (54:45):
Do you have oranges? We used to get that behalf like.
Speaker 3 (54:50):
So I think, well, we should talk about what's coming
up in the coming weeks because I think there's a
There has been a lot of excitement around, certainly around
this bill.
Speaker 4 (55:00):
HB. What was it?
Speaker 1 (55:03):
Five?
Speaker 4 (55:04):
More important?
Speaker 3 (55:05):
The Western Brian Mandrill Act, Western Brian Mandrel Act, and
the mess the Western Brian Mandrell Foundation.
Speaker 5 (55:12):
In any of the end of kids choking death from
school in our hopefully God willing, in the next year,
we get them in those schools and we never have
a kid choking it, never have one hundred kids. I
am on my wall one hundred names.
Speaker 3 (55:26):
In the state of Texas kicked us, kicked us off,
Tony an equal first DAID is involved in thirteen thirteen
other states and also to follow up, listen if you're
in these.
Speaker 1 (55:37):
I kicked us market agreed to it, but not kicked
us off. They agreed, they took it in.
Speaker 4 (55:43):
Did I take kicked it off? Yes, yes, kicked it in.
Speaker 5 (55:47):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (55:47):
Yeah. It's a lot of euphemism. We you know, mess
it up, we miss things up with the audience will
be misled. We don't want that. No, we want to
be clear.
Speaker 5 (55:55):
We want to properly lead.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
You want Ohio and Michigan and South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (55:59):
So let's go San Diego, l a Hot Dallas, New York,
and Allentown. Well, New York were already involved with these
other states. Let's get in touch with your state, Senator,
make sure that they have a billet made.
Speaker 5 (56:14):
Equal first date.
Speaker 4 (56:15):
Yeah, get in the game, Equal first day. Dot com game.
Speaker 3 (56:21):
Tony Libate spelled out Tony Libate at equal first day
dot com. Get in touch with Tony, help us, legislate,
help us and school. Help the kids who know no politics,
just want to live. They just want to grow up,
and then they choose their politics.
Speaker 4 (56:40):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (56:40):
And that's and that's about it. That's about any parting words.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
Remember their names, you know, I'm serious with the kids.
Speaker 5 (56:47):
Oh man, that's a good point. Beautiful that to that list.
Speaker 3 (56:53):
Yeah, that's pat for Arthur Lee. I'm Rick Thatcher and.
Speaker 1 (56:57):
And I'm going to summ Yeah.
Speaker 5 (57:00):
Show next week.
Speaker 4 (57:01):
Contest settled another.
Speaker 5 (57:02):
Customs we should incorporate that.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
We'll see how about micro takes us out. We'll see
you next week on the Man in the Arena.
Speaker 1 (57:08):
Yeah, it's no joke.
Speaker 2 (57:12):
When you choke to get life back and leave without breath,
they'll be death. To get life back and live bad,
Live back and Gad's life Live back, Life back, and
life back and
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