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July 3, 2025 • 59 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's no joke.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
When you choked life back without breath, they'll be death
cigat life, bad life back.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
And back life back. And you know that song by
Mike Rowe and his Buddy is sweeping the country. It
could become the most popular jingle since PLoP PLoP, fizz
fizz your thoughts?

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I agree, Where's the beef?

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Where's the beef is a good one too.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Showing our age. Hey everybody, we just saved two lives.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
By the way, just save two lives. Hey everyone, My
name is Reck Thatcher. This is the man in the arena,
and you were listening to the Man in the area.
Arthur Lee's CEO, inventor of the life fact. And tonight
we are joined by Danielle the nursing Home Warrior.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
She is a warrior.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
She's been here before. And it's got outside too.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
And that title is almost a little like, you know,
setting up shopping for old people. It isn't really warrior material.
But you are a warrior.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
That's because you haven't seen me fight.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
No, I've seen trust me. I know what the warriors. Sorry,
I've seen it. It's the nice shopping side.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, but you've been with us before.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
She could be slightly mith laated, and she could be.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
And that's that therein lies of the Warrior. But I
don't know that if you've joined us when the man
in the arena was not, or you were with us
when we weren't in San Diego, Los Angeles, Houston, Orlando,
Dallas and New York, I don't think it wasnationwide and
the fastest growing podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
That's what makes us the fastest growing podcast. And that's
what separates us from you know, the normal podcast. Right,
not only do we do and it goes out, we're
more in the Abbey normal category, and uh, it gets
the message out, you know, for an hour of radio
all over the country. So definitely is why we are
the fastest growing and it's really a it's a cool

(02:01):
uh theory, cool practice, and I think we will continue
to expand into other markets so you know you can
hear us on the radio just in your shop or whatever.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Would you say the country needs this type of programming.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, no doubt. And you'll see as we go through
this one, because it can take me a little bit
to set it up, but as always, it's kind of
a spring on you. So we'll get like we did
the prayer discussion and it'll be a little bit like that,
and we'll see out there and you know, handles the
throw throwing the rock.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yes, and now, so what author alludes to again, Arthur
Lee ceo, inventor of Life Act, is chapters of his
book which we explore uh in each week. H Sometimes
we don't, but tonight we do explore a chapter from
the book, Sorry Can't is a Lie, which you can
get and I should mention the website for goodness sakes,

(02:52):
www dot lifeact dot net. Go to Life You can
get the Amazon you know what.

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Get the original, but also get a copy of the
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(03:23):
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Sorry Can't just a lie? And the chapter we talk
about tonight should throw a rock? You should throw a rock?

Speaker 1 (03:39):
You should throw the rock? And I was kind of
searching and there'll be a transition from it. But what
hit me is these stories are kind of my life fables.
Remember fables don't fly you know a close to some
ASoP you know chicken little Uh, you know, the the
p and the mess. But they about what is the

(04:00):
boy cry wolf? Right? Basically it's a lesson that if
you lie, someone may not believe you when you tell
the truth. Don't lie, don't fly too close to son.
You know, Icarus is feathers melt. Well, that's saying be humble, right,
Think about these stories have lasted hundreds, maybe thousands of
years and we are sitting there right, So what does

(04:21):
that mean. It means that we need foundational thoughts, We
need foundational things, not all the accessorial noise we get nowadays. Right,
And in the book is my kind of ASoP fables
that I learned growing up. And I think we more
than ever we have to. It'll allude and we'll go

(04:43):
into it rely on them. So the story you Should
throw the Rock.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Remind me a little u fin.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Well, A lot of it's like that well, think about it.
We used to watch David and Gly at the Brady Bunk.
They all had a lesson, you know, and that was
good that that helped us as children, kind of getting
outside influence of positivity or foundation. Right. Okay, So I'm
sitting in the night backyard. Now, this is the time
I often mentioned it where you know, when you had
nothing to do, you literally had nothing to do, You

(05:14):
couldn't put go on your phone. You sat there and
looked at each other, said what do you want to do?
You know, so odd things would come in. We could
have rock fights or you know, start a fire or
build a bomb. So we me and my butter are
in the foxhole and he's you know, he was a
rambunctious kid. And then looking back, and he wasn't, you know,
overly bright and in this sad way of saying, neither

(05:36):
was I.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
But if any thing is when I read it, I
knew you use the first name names, you know, kept
the same to protect the innocent. But I knew exactly
who you were talking about the first time I read
the book. And now I even know and I picture
him now as a grown man, back when he was
a kid.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
So you know, we're goofing off and we're in my
fox hole playing and uh, there's a party across the canal.
And I say, you know I can't throw rock over there.
Yeah I can. I could throw rock a long way.
I don't think he could throw rock that far. No,
I really can't. All right, well I don't believe it.
So he throws the rock, hits a guy right in there,

(06:12):
damn boom in that magical just throw it. Never good
A million years moment like the marshmallow. Another chapter, and
you know, we freak out the same chapter, different little exactly.
Oh thank you. So I say, so we bolt and
I go onto my bed and we're all gonna die.
My father is gonna kill me. And as I'm hiding

(06:33):
under my bed, I'm saying I didn't do anything wrong.
You know, I'm a good kid. He threw the rock dead,
I didn't do it, And you know, the old school
guy comes over says, your kids are idiots. My father says,
I agree, thanks for telling me. I'll go beat them
to death. And you know, he comes in and I
explain how great a kid I am, and he says,

(06:54):
well not really. He actually, yeah, davidn't go Gliath moment,
you actually really did two bad things. One you manipulated
your friend. You took advantage of the fact that you know,
you kind of sucked them into it. You know that's
not something you do. And he also said, you know,
if someone's about to do something wrong, you're supposed to

(07:15):
stop them, not encourage them. Right. So this meloves into
where our discussion today is going because I saw a
Golden Retriever dive off a diving board, do three flips
and land in the water, and you know, we have
a new world of not being able to believe things right. Right.

(07:37):
So I said to myself, I said, you know, we
need more Aesop's feebles, right, And I think our first
talk should be kind of whether we've got manipulated or
we caught ourselves manipulating someone. So we need just like choking,
you need to be aware, you need to be prepared,
and you need to do something right. So my brain

(07:58):
is saying we have. When I was a college, they
took sociology, mostly because, as Lenny knows, it was very
conducive to drinking beer, chasing girls, and playing sports. So
I initially said this is right up my alley, but
there was a class that stuck with me called the
Unanticipated Consequences of Technology.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Right, so it's deep actually yeah, deep.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, and it was I loved it. It was my favorite class.
And basically it said, you know, we get technology saying wow,
is this great, but we don't realize the impact that
it may have. Right. And the example was about the
Long Island Expressway to alleviate traffic. Well, then people moved
further away and we had more traffic. So the foundation

(08:43):
of that class was to go into a company and
research and look at whatever they were doing to see
if they were unanticipated consequences. So putting that all together,
and I thought, geez, we are coming into an era
of complete disbelief, right, so what is the deeper problem? Right?

(09:05):
So now we're already a very untrusting society, right, we've
gotten that way. The media has made it leep to
look in life. Fact, you know you could use this,
Oh I have to let the kid die. Oh my god,
there's not in the c D D D. Okay, Well
you're supposed to save a life, idiot.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
So we're back to basics.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Right, Well, we've already become very fearful, right, and now
with this how does it affect relationships? Right? Your programmed
that if you see something used to be able to
see it and believe it. You saw it, You saw
it with your own two eyes. And historically, you know,
we could listen to Walter Cronkind and you know, be

(09:46):
comfortable believing him. There was trust, yeah, and then you
know it crept right. Then we had texting and all
these things where you could kind of you know, pretend
look at the people you know on Facebook. You know
I'm surveying. Meanwhile, you know you're in India in the basement.
So now we're starting to get this. Now we have
the last stage. You know, they right now could come

(10:08):
or some wells were the world's Martians here, Trump could
come on TV and say Martians landed. They could show
video of the of the Martians in the field coming
out with guns. Everyone freak out. So we have to
be that way, right, We have to be questioning now
everything we suscept, everything we heed, but what is the depth? Right?

(10:30):
So the first one I'd like to kind of shoot
from is you know, my feeling bad and learning not
to manipulate someone. They just said, you go, you know,
I think women have a lot of input on this,
because you know men may try and manipulate them.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
Well, I think you.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
I shared a story with you very recently about somebody
manipulating me, and it was trying. It was a tug
of war. Actually, it was back and forth. It wasn't
It wasn't very cut right. It was somebody pretending to
be a nice, kind human being and turning out to be.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Not so nice.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Not so nice, But.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Pretty much that's what we call in the neighbor.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
You're learning from me, We use.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
Different The interesting part, though, is that nobody else knows
that I was being manipulated. So everybody else who is
surrounded by this human being thinks that this person is
a fantastic, wonderful, giving, loving kind soul.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Sounds like a narcissiystem, right, So I've become a very
popular term. Right, Yes, that didn't exist back in the way.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
It does very well. He does very well with people's.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
So even when I can find it confide it in somebody,
they said to me that it That's exactly what they said,
And I was like, no, really, and they they ended
up believing me. But it was like, how could this nice, amazing, generous,
kind person also be the person you're describing. So then
I got into this really weird in my head, just

(12:04):
such a bad, bad space where I was saying, maybe
maybe it's me, maybe I did something, maybe it's my problem.
And that's when I was sharing with you that I
was in such a bad, horrible place because I didn't
I was like, how could this be? How could everyone
else think this person's fantastic? And I think that this
person's a piece of garbage.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
When you're questioning around Sanday, I think that is a
form of guess life.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, but we get these termed narcissis guess like no
one knows what that they mean. That's why we need
aesop fables don't throw a rock right question for you
in which I'm curious about in your life when you
become aware of it, Like do you do you see
any signs where you're kind of like, wait a second,
you know this person's kind of leading me down a path? Well,

(12:51):
I think in this particular, this well, I think it's
kind of obvious pretty soon, This.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
One's pretty obvious, correct. But I think that I can't
speak for anybody else. I can only speak for myself,
and I can tell you that my relationship with my
father was never good, and I feel like I was
always questioning how people treated me because of that relationship.
So it was stems from something of me being a

(13:16):
little girl, you know.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
But do you think that helped you fend off manipulation
sooner or were you more apt to kind of drift
into it because you questioned yourself?

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Well, I would.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
I think I would defend myself and to a point
where I would almost blow it up.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah, I believe I could see that, right.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
I mean, you know me well enough to know that
I need to blow it up and know that it's
done and gone. So I I would based and I
would sing a song of love in my heart as
I did it because I needed to be blown up.
So if I feel like you're starting to hurt me
in any sort of way, I won't retreat. I I'll
think about it and then I'll plan your demise.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Have you ever erd and done that to someone who wasn't? Really?

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Never, It's never been wrong.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
That's good, But that's that's a lesson. Young women need
to know that if you're feeling it, believe in yourself
and stop it. Look at some of the you know,
the relationships that go on for years with abuse or
you know, the getting someone to kill someone. Right, and
now we're gonna add AI, here's him beating my child,

(14:22):
go kill him, right, there's the videocam of him. Now
that happens. Now I watch a lot of Dayline. Sorry,
but but my point is that we now have another
tool to manipulate people, right. But in the throw of
rock is we also need to try to be aware

(14:43):
not to do that. That's what I learned from that.
Right that I felt horrible, And if I ever felt
I was trying to manipulate someone, I said, no, it's wrong,
don't do that. So it's a combination of educating people
not to do it and then being aware of of
it when it's happened. Standing up prior to you know,
a tenure manager you get beat every night. You know,

(15:05):
it's a horrible situation.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
It's really about who you surround yourself with, like your friends.
You have to have friends who are going to say stop,
this isn't right, as opposed to somebody who says, no,
throw the rock.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Well, someone throw the rock, you know, Danielle, that's a
great point, A great time for a break. Will be
right back with more of the Man in the Arena
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Speaker 3 (16:07):
Hey, we're back with the Man in the Arena, Rick
Thatcher along with Danielle the Nursing Home Warrior lead Line
and Arthur Lee CEO, inventor of the Life Act, and
they're having a sign conversation. Sorry, no, it's because what
happens this is what happens in the fastest growing podcast.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
Because I want to get on board with that and
make my podcast.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
We should mention tell us about your.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Let's blab about ourselves back, we're right deep in this conversation. Yes,
we will mention n before the president. Amazing thing and
she is a woman in the arena. Yes, but I
want to stay on track because I want your opinion
now whether you did and regret to have been, or
have an opinion of thought on the new world that

(16:57):
we're facing with this deep seated mistrus. I give you
ever been manipulated where you woke up and said, holy crap,
what am I doing?

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Absolutely on all counts, I think you know, back in childhood,
I remember, you know, certainly being involved with things where
you're encouraging someone else to do something that's mischievous.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
And that's why trouble at that time.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
I remember blowing pepper, you know, myself doing it, blowing
pepper because it was cool, aren't our friend Rob Watson? Right?
It didn't go well.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
He's in the book too for almost get my head
beat in? But yeah, did you feel bad?

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Of course, of course. And a lot of it was
from you know, the Davey and Goliath, or or my
you know mother pointing it out, or just I guess
my uncle was around, you know, to a large degree too,
with pointing out your that's not you, like I remember
protecting a younger child. I was one of the youngest
in the neighborhood and it was a lot of rough

(17:57):
kids and I remember, you know, looking out for Andy,
and my uncle pointed out reinforced it and said, you
know that's who you want to be.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah. Man, that was the Rob Watson story. I wanted
them to get beat up, but then everyone's going to
beat them up. I was like, that's not fair, but
that's cool, and that's cool. Lesson do you ever? Did
you ever catch it? Like where someone was trying to
manipulate you? Few money has something to do with this too,
because it's a preventive moment when you say enough, you know,

(18:28):
I don't care. And you brought it to life by
saying you know, you catch it and you address it right,
which I think is tough. Like you mentioned in this
situation where it says no one believes you, no.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
One could believe.

Speaker 5 (18:40):
They didn't not that they didn't believe me, but they
couldn't believe that the person that was doing it to
me would ever be anything but amazing.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Part and why it's sometimes difficult when you're being manipulated
to believe in yourself and you call it a word.
I don't know what gas lining is.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Guesslighting means it's someone that's having you question your own sanity,
like by you know, turning the It's from a movie
where the character was constantly looking and the gas light
was lit and they started thinking, did I do that myself?
And it was And it's become very popular with the politics,

(19:17):
it's become very popular.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
But the problem with the well, the stupid guys that say, Bill,
what do you think today? And they're not in the arena, Well,
watch gaslighting Phil and he doesn't know what the hell
was talking about, right, and he's an idiot, And the
only guy's an idiot. And they're not saying, when I
was a kid, I know what it was because it
felt that way. And if you did ask, and they
probably go, I don't know. I just talk about stuff

(19:40):
you get paid.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
So in your own experience, remember how the heck do
I know, Connie?

Speaker 1 (19:47):
What am I doing here? But I guess what I
was curious was have you ever gone down the Danielle
Path and caught it and said, WHOA wait a second,
I'm being manipulated?

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Sure, And it's at that point where you ask yourself,
is it me?

Speaker 1 (20:03):
You know?

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Am I cruising?

Speaker 1 (20:04):
You bounce all that?

Speaker 5 (20:05):
I get it for like a half a second, and
then I'll reach out to somebody I trust and I'll
tell I'll ask them and I'll say help me here,
and then they usually step me straight.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, it starts with my cruising and.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
Then I planned their demise.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Don't necessary plan the device part.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
The sinister side of the nursing home Warrior is on
full display. Here.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
You're gonna hurt me. I might come after you, well
you know what else.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
The second one, what I was curious about, was particularly
in line with new AI and you can't trust anything.
Was regaining some maybe some foundational moments of breaking right,
Like for me, manners is huge. Like if you're someone
and you know you're rude to the bus boy or
just you know, you say things by you know, you

(20:52):
automatically go okay, you know we I'm not going to
crucify you over. But that's not I'm not moving down
a direction of you having you in my life. You
don't let everyone at life acts good person and they're
kind and their great manners.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Very few hr incidents, very few people.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
We would have hundreds of them. But we have old world.
We have the real world where we're not there to say,
you know, well you said this, and we say everything
to each other. But it's because of mutual respect and fun.
If you're a guy and your buddy didn't pick on you,
he probably doesn't like you. You know, he doesn't goof
on you and say you and Jackie ride in the car.
I can't wait to hear that. We'll talk a little

(21:32):
bit about the trip.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
But Jackie Lee is in the building. For those of
you who don't know, Jackie Lee the inspiration for the
life back back when she was seven years old, and
now she's no longer seven.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
But eighteen nineteen, she's gonna be twenty twenty one. Weha, man,
my brain is broken. So here's the thing though, Yeah,
with that in line, that we all have these moments
of saying, okay, you know you and some of her,
or you lie. It was a little one, but you start,
you say, you know, you're able to quickly kind of
categorize that person, whether they're going to be in your
life that you call when you're in that moment, or

(22:08):
they're not. How do we develop those with this new
world so we can maintain trusting each other and loving
each other and falling in love and not pitching picking
up pitch, I guess because that gets a little funny.
That's but you know, we can maintain our humanity of
trust and joy. So how do we interpret AI with

(22:32):
a flag that helps us? Obviously a dog doing somersaults
off the diving.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
I've seen sharks eating entire boats recently. I think that
the cats out of the bag is that the correct terminology,
the horses out of the barn. With the expectation that
people see things and automatically they think, oh that. You know,
you go to the comment section, you see AI it's
getting rid, right.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
But that's because my opinion, the evilness has not started.
Someone said to me, I don't know. I think I
think it's it's definitely started. But my dad got scammed
once by you know these calling dudes, right, They called
him up and they said, you know, mister Lee, this
is an attorney Phil Johnson. Last night, your son, your nephew,

(23:14):
I mean, your grandson, was mom linst. He's fine. He's
in jail, but I can bail him out. I know
he works for the government and we don't want a
big scandal. He was down in Florida. He was at
a bachelor party and I was in the wrong car
at the wrong time. Mister ly, i'd be I'm defending
some of his the other people in the car, and
I would be happy to throw him in. Father's like

(23:37):
what he says, hang on, let me put your nephew,
you know, your grandson on the.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
Phone grid brother, I mean, and it's his voice.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, And he felt for it, and I was like,
oh my god, So I go. I said, Dad, don't
do anything, get over there, and you know, he was
starting to lose it and it was so real and
I said, you sure you spoke to Eddie right, because
if he was in Florida, he is an idiot and
and uh, I couldn't get it. Wow. And then I

(24:09):
couldn't get my sister. And this guy's like, he's you know,
he's going to get charged if we don't. You know,
it's like pressure on us. Now. I was fortunate I
have a friend to go down to my sisters and
they were all sleep and I said, you know, what
a piece of junk, But imagine getting it FaceTime from
your your d ye. You know, it's just in whatever,
you know, So how do we red flag where we

(24:32):
trust enough the love but we are conscious enough that
there's no manners to see it. And he thought, no,
all right, Well thanks for listening. And we saw that.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Oh that's it's a great question and it's and it's
really deep because I'm the whole time I'm thinking about
the manipulation of the media on the viewers, and you're
talking more on a personal level or the scamming that's
we're subject to and that's going to continue to go on.
It went on before there was this technology, and they

(25:05):
would just manipulate, playing on people's year and wanting to
protect their family. So you know, hey, Grandma, the.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Deeper part, right, because we get the government to step in, well,
they're probably the ones are going to use it the
most and certify and regulate and pull that doesn't work.
And like I said, they're the ones that will probably
use it the most. We need to educate on both front.
I think, right we need Davy and Glad to say
you could still love, but be careful of this stuff.
You look, you ready, you got it?

Speaker 4 (25:36):
What I know. I think you have to know your people.

Speaker 5 (25:39):
I think that you know you have to have a
safe place to go and know your people.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
And I think the world is scary and I.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
But it's not, but it is, No, it's not.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
All depends on your We're in different We're totally in
different places in our lives right now, right Well, you're
over there.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
I'm sitting in this chair and you're over here.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Okay, the of you listening at home or in these
great markets that were in Danielle is sitting about five
feet away from Arthur Lane. I understand.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
What I mean is that you know, you're married, you're
you're you have a beautiful daughter, you have a home,
you're stable. I think it does because I am out
in the world trying to make nursing Home Warrior, which
is a chat and gentlemen, I'm trying to develop something.

(26:31):
I really am in the world alone. I don't go
home to anybody, you know, and I feel.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Like you have a wonderful son.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
Dog improve My point is that my point I am from.
My point is that we're in.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Two different places and the dog has guts.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
No he had guests on the last it was bad.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
But you are my point.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
I say, there's so many good people that come out
and want to help and want to do things with you.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
You're looking for it, right and and I'm.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Going to get overly skeptical of.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
People, and I feel like, I'm like, you really want
to help me like you sure, like, what what your.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
Why do you want to help me? What do you
want from me? I have nothing to give you.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
What do you want? The beginning of what I'm saying
is the continuation of the problem where we watch dogs diving,
so I say, you must be bad. I can't trust you.
I don't even want to talk to you. And then
now we get that we're locking on cars, we're hiding
in our houses, we're dodging people. And I'm all over
the country, all over the world, and there's a lot
of good people, and there are places that I think

(27:33):
crime is down less people, but boy, we could make
it look worse in two seconds.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
I agree. But I feel like my position, which is
definitely different than yours, is your three feet from me, is.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
That I have to be more careful because people can
hurt me a lot easier, and they can hurt you.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
I don't understand who's out to hurt you.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
About something that literally happens.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Okay, give you that, but it wasn't necessarily hurt you,
but it was it was uncovered, all right, make it.
I get your point.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
That was definitely what happened was not okay.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
No, it was not okay.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
But that's he was trying to manipulate me.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
But that stuff happens, and we need to be educated prepared.
But the statement of the mistrust of everyone, because you
can't blanket that may continue worse. We're all in our
basements on our phone.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
You want me to agree with him.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Because I never happened.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
If you don't think you should, I never happened. If
you do think you should.

Speaker 5 (28:39):
For me in my life, it's easier for me to
ask a lot of questions, why do you want to
help me because you could because someone could hurt me
a lot easier than help me.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
I well, I think we have to be skeptical. But
my concern is over skeptical. I might stop being nice
because we've conditioned ourselves the question.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
Andy thing, and I stop being nice because people started
being I don't want.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
To curse buttholes.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Buttholes is okay, starts behind the use of the term butthole.
I have it right here.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
And the more people I meet, the more buttholes I meet,
and it makes me more cautious about who I talk
to and who I share my ideas.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
People I do, but I have to beat them.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
That could be a spiral there meaning we are much
sooner judge someone's buttle, which much sooner raise our defensive
flags because we know that it might be a fake
gold and achieva diving in the pool, particularly for the
young people. Then didn't throw a rock. I don't know
kids even throw rocks, throw on their phones. But they
are growing up in this environment of this is their thing,

(29:52):
you know, and the world when when they first started
and they watched the guy throw the ping pong ball
hit the pot from going the cup, that was pretty
cool because he did four hundred and eighty seven times.
How the heck they have time or care enough to
do it? God bless him, but it was real. Right now,
they're gonna be able to make the ping pong goal,

(30:13):
you know, through Trump's years out the other side and
bounce off Biden's head and wind up in a hold
of one at the Masters. Right, So they've grown up
with this thing. They've grown up kind of believe in it.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Do you think they believe it? Because I feel like they.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
I believe that guy like Jackie.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
Definitely, we're going.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
To bring on Jackie perfect time perfect, bring on the
peanut and take a break and grab her.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
You know what It is a good time.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
For it is a good time.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Let's take a break. We'll be back with more of
the Man in the Arena and this in this case,
it's going to be the Jackie.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
And the Cage match.

Speaker 7 (30:52):
We'll be right back join us on the other side.

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Speaker 3 (31:12):
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Speaker 8 (31:15):
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Speaker 3 (31:41):
Welcome back to the Man in the Arena. My name
is Rick Thatcher. It has been throughout the show it
will remain till the end. I'm here with Arthur Lee,
Jackie Lee, and Danielle the Nursing Home Warrior.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Hey wait, just so you know, because you're the keeper
of the clock, yes, I would. I want to continue
and get now to get Jackie's younger person. Take on
this between me, you and him, we're covering a good area.
But I do want to leave like five minutes for
her to talk about nursing home war. Yeah, silver threads
and what she's doing and how silver threads is now

(32:14):
growing all over the perfect because that's her, that's right,
all right? So you were listening this is Jackie. I
thought Daniel was going to do after because I've got
to stay were we're going to.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
That's a tease, ladies, gentlemen, we're gonna.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
We're getting good at this, Jim curt right, don't all right?
So here's the thing. You heard what we were talking about, right,
So you believed, prior to the recent development, the guy
with the ping pong ball hits the thing he went in,
he did that, right, So give me your take one

(32:50):
on manipulation, because you know you feel been involved. They
had a brief encounter with it, and so what beware
what it made you feel? Tell me a little bit
about that.

Speaker 6 (33:04):
Well, I would say from my experience, what I learned
from it was mostly just to listen to the people
around you. That's yeah, I totally agree with you, and
I would like heard you say that was like absolutely,
and a lot of times they know better than you do,
from at least from my experience, You're you'll like if
it Depending on who the person is, you can try

(33:26):
to make a lot of excuses for them and try.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
To familiar to make sense of it.

Speaker 6 (33:30):
So when someone else says it, you should definitely listen
a little closer.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
You know. I used to have a kind of a
thing in my head, and it was about like being
in an airport, right, You're sitting next to someone and
you can kind of talk to them unfiltered, right, And
I often use it with someone's like complaining, and I say,
what if you were complaining about something, you were sitting
next to someone that said, are you ready? Your mind?

(33:57):
You have been made? That's great? Right, So that's kind
of a similar thing where you start thinking, how one way,
but you need someone to go that's that's not good?
Does that make sense? Is that it? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (34:09):
Yeah, pretty much That's what my take on it.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Now, how do you determine who to share these things with?

Speaker 6 (34:16):
Someone you trust, someone who's opinion you, someone that knows
you well enough and does a situation well enough, or
at least not a whole lot but just has a
brain and can figure it out.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
You know.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
One of the one of the things I said as
a dad is, you know, let me see we're friends
in second grade. And part of that was you kind
of had a geography, so yeah, you kind of make
friends with the guys around you. You couldn't be texting
with the guy in California and then I don't need
to hang out with you, man. So you really made bonds,

(34:50):
You really grew together and went through shit together. And
like you, me and you, we've known each other since
ten years we were sitting on Fairfield in grade school.
I don't know if that exists so much, like you
have a couple of good friends, right, she got it
with COVID That destroyed a lot of problems. Do you
do you have Do you have long term friends? Where

(35:13):
do you yell at them? And do you burn them
or something?

Speaker 3 (35:18):
You know?

Speaker 1 (35:18):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
I don't want to appear to be sexist, but I
feel like in my experience it's been harder for girls
that I grew up with to have a close kinship
my kids. Same thing somehow, for some reason, and I'm
not sure why, and it's probably gotten worse with the
advent of the phone harder for girls young women to

(35:42):
be close and be really tight friends.

Speaker 6 (35:46):
I definitely would say that there's more just like monkey
wrenches to be thrown in friendships and stuff like that.
It's because like social media and someone goes something the
wrong way, or you see people hank that used to
have me when I was younger, to see people hanging.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Out when she was younger. Yeah, when you just said that,
my head almost explodes.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
A lot when you were younger.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yeah, okay, in.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
The day, No, but I remember that too, because it
is more pain Like if you know me and you
hanging out, we didn't want to hang out. What else
she didn't know?

Speaker 4 (36:20):
I would never find now. I would find out that
because I want to.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Because we're posed all pictures bragging pictures of our dessert.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
But I would go.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
To someone else's page and then find that they send
a picture up, so it wouldn't even be on your
page like this, it's oh yeah, it's a rabbit hole
and go down and stuff.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
So here's something that I'll kind of talk a little
bit about. So and connected. So when we were all
out in the desert riding motorcycles and YouTube riding together,
which is probably one of the most funniest things ever
when we have to talk a little bit about it.
When we came through the gate at you semity and
I came up that first big turn and it's that

(36:59):
you know, obviously my motorcycle was a clip, so your
coboy attention. You kind of have a little bit of
a rush. And I saw you send me and all
that's grand there, right, And I had a god moment
to me, you know, I said, oh my, you know
that he's the only one that could make How did
that happen? But as they get a chill, I also
had a moment like is this real? How could this

(37:19):
be real? Right? I've seen a picture of half dome
and the river and everything. Well, school, it's beautiful when
you experience for real, Right, did you get that feeling?
Were you laughing with brick driving? Were you terrified at
that moment?

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Absolutely terrified?

Speaker 1 (37:38):
You got to understand these two road in a sleek
shot through the mountain three wheels.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Three wheels. But when you when you come around a
corner and see nothing but the great expanse and mountains
in the distance, and knowing this road ends, no shoulder,
no guard rail, and sitting in the corner.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Well, that was definitely made you more nervous, and I
appreciate it. But quick dot on that right, so we'll
zoom back. But I have to tell the story. So
they put Jackie on a bike and teach you how
to ride a motorcycle. She's getting it's going up and
there they put her on a bigger bike, which they
shouldn't have done. She goes down and crashing into a
rosemary bush. Now we're laying on the ground. I don't

(38:19):
even know no, I calib back up. So you fell
off and lay down on the ground like you were
under the bike a little bit.

Speaker 6 (38:24):
And then I wiggled out and stood up right.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
So they come on, oh my god, you okay. She
goes smells really pretty in there. That was the answer
to crashing a motorcycle into a bush. Now that will
go with my asop's fable brain of yeah, and I
got to smell the rosemary when I crashed my motorcycle

(38:47):
into a bush at fifty four.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
If I crashed, I would have been like, I didn't
break anything, perception sixty Yeah, nothing's broken.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, But I think that that's a quick jump to
say the uh you know, the attitude you need in life,
and I was so proud of you. But then going
back to aisemite versus reale, Right, so once again do
we get to the point that we don't need to
see yousemite because we saw it on the phone, we
saw it on the video, I've seen pictures.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
I'll just say that from the moment that I got
involved with scrolling or reels TikTok and looking at you know,
traveling videos, it just made me want to see it
in person more. I know, from you know, experiencing Pebble
Beach in person as a golf course, as a beautiful venue,

(39:41):
it's much better to go there and experience itself. We do,
and I think that that desire for folks in that sense,
it almost serves as a like a travel advertising.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Oh I loved it, and that's how I found this
most cycle trip. But my point, I guess in that
as we move forward with trust is that's not real.
It doesn't really look like that. How much does this
new technology and the fear and the lack of trust
kind of start closing our world again? Do you do

(40:14):
you see do you feel like when you how do
you determine something's bs on whatever.

Speaker 6 (40:21):
I mean a lot of times you can tell just
from like the camera quality, or you'll see like glitches
in the background. You can kind of pick up on
a bit.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Well, she's good at like pick it up like girls
and photoshops themselfs.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Ye, that's what it's great to find filters.

Speaker 6 (40:37):
Yeah, yeah, but it's I mean, like I think since
I've grown like growing up around it and definitely see
when you were younger, when I was younger of course
back in the day, but I definitely have seen the
how much technology has improved and grown. It's really scary.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
But have you seen anything yet where you're not sure?
I have?

Speaker 6 (41:01):
Oh sure, I watched it again, and I'm like, I
can figure it out.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Yeah, I kind of rely back go I always go
back to like physics or or common sense, and they, no,
I don't think that, you know, the iceberg that pulls
off and the guy you know sorts, I don't think
so it's nothing visual. It's kind of that absurfd and
I know that that would be tough to serve that way.
What about do you how do you catch that? Especially

(41:28):
with men, right, they've got to be uh, you know,
putting it out there, look at me. I caught a
fish or whatever they do?

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Are we getting into the apps the dating apps?

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Well, I'm in saying the guy they on Facebook, that's
you know, genuine fish. And then you know, like do you.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
Have flags on the dating apps?

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Just in general?

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Like is a red flag to me? I think we've
just everybody is a red flag me. I have such
trust issues, Like I said before, if somebody wants to
help me, I'm like, why what do you want from me?

Speaker 4 (42:05):
Everybody? Yeah, so like, yeah, it is a guard there,
and I would wish I was more like you. I
could be more.

Speaker 5 (42:10):
Open and free and loving and not more. I'm more like,
let's let's just what do you want, Let's just get there.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
But do you think that that will become more prevalent
as this stuff starts, you know, creeping into our mindset
of this is not really your fake, your phony.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
I don't know if you get more prevalent for me,
I'm pretty much there.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Yeah, I got that, So it's not gonna matter.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
I'm blowing things up.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Can I know that your generation is going to grow
with this additional skepticism on everything, skepticism categorism.

Speaker 6 (42:45):
Some kind of is Yeah, I definitely think that there's
a lot more flags to be seen when looking into
stuff like that, especially when it comes to photoshop and
seeing people online or even like you can adjust the
lighting to make the water look better and pictures. But
regarding what you're saying with Yosemite and everything, I think
it will be a lot easier to say, oh, like,
it doesn't really look like that.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Right, And that scares me because then you don't put
the effort in to go there. You two were in
the car for what five seven hours?

Speaker 3 (43:13):
That was a long stretch. Yeah, that was the part
with the motorcycle.

Speaker 6 (43:20):
Yeah, you did get scared the motors yeah yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
I don't know who that was. It was probably part
of our group, right, the rinder.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Just so she told me how much fun? Yeah with you,
I always appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Let's be honest. I've took anchor. I drove from Yosemite
back to camp. Your daughter drove out like a champion.
She had only stepped foot in this vehicle the day
before for about two hours maybe that we called it

(43:55):
side by side. There was like a razor.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
She was me. So this is the Jackies Great show
brought to you by her father hard to believe.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Listen, in the time we have left, we're just talking about.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
How crazy Jackie is.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Well, absolutely, we have a new show, enough time, but
I want to give Danielle an opportunity. Yes, about Threads
and Nursing Home Warriors.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Make sure do a couple of things. One, make sure
it's very clear that they know. Two, you have to
talk about what you're working on because they love it
so much.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
You know that was your idea.

Speaker 5 (44:33):
Okay, So Nursing Home Warrior was created because too many
people who live in nursing homes have been left without
any visitors or people who actually care for them. That
also means the government doesn't care for them either, because
they only get fifty dollars a month if they're Medicaid
to cover their personal expenses. I also mean that the

(44:54):
nursing homes themselves, and I know I'm going to get
fired for saying that they don't always care for the residents.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
That's the truth.

Speaker 5 (45:02):
I know this because of thirty five years working in
nursing homes, I have seen some really horrible things and
then being covered up by administration and ownership.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
You think about Nursing Home Warrior, originally it was like
an advocate for the people and I can't do it
for famili used to be able to get help with
getting help for their loved one, but then you saw
a kind of an opportunity of hope.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
Right, So I was.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
It started off with I will fight for you, I
will take care of your loved ones, or I will
I will do anything I can to help you. I
will go to the Department of Health, I'll go to
the Attorney General's office.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
We will fix this.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
And I've been doing this now, not the nursing home Warrior,
but I've been in nursing homes for thirty seven years.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
So I've seen a lot hope and now.

Speaker 5 (45:50):
Seeing hope because because I realized that with these people
not getting the money that they need to purchase new
articles of clothing, that we started something called Projects Silver Threads,
where people will donate their clothing that is appropriate for
nursing home residents and we have distributed to nursing homes
around the Tri State area. At this point, we've distributed

(46:11):
over six thousand pieces of clothing.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
Thanks to everybody who has.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
And I I got to go.

Speaker 4 (46:17):
To what's target.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Yeah you don't, but we got to buy stuff.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
So every box has new items in it.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
But what you learned it wasn't really it's not really
now so much the money, right, What is it that
you're giving them?

Speaker 5 (46:32):
Giving them dignity I'm giving them. They're feeling like they're love,
They're feeling that somebody cares about them because they don't
get gifts on Christmas, in the holidays, or Father's Day
and Mother's Days. And now they're getting a new item.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
That is some kind of warrior that's really put a
new meaning. And listen, we're up against a break. We're
going to be back with rape prieby mister three thousand.
Give us all the stats, but I want to talk
more on the other side of Absolutely, we'll be right back,
So stay with us.

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Speaker 1 (47:58):
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Speaker 3 (48:01):
I love that guy. And I was just about to mention,
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know what the commercial that folks at home are listening
to or just heard, but we just listened to Ben
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(48:22):
we were talking to Danielle and then we got real
pre yes coming up.

Speaker 5 (48:26):
So if anybody is interested in donating any clothing to
Silver Threads, you can go on my Facebook page or
which is I guess maybe I could. It's Danielle Pagolotti's
leeb blind.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Good luck doing search on nursing home warriors.

Speaker 10 (48:41):
Perfect.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
Thank you for that.

Speaker 5 (48:43):
So we're going to be doing a pop up shop
where pop up shops pop up shot they don't really
have an opportunity to go shopping where we're going to
have like clothing racks and different kinds of clothing set
up with mirrors that they can go around.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Arthur is going to take care of the men's department.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Yeah, I'm going to be like the guy.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Yes, exactly to get the guys to do this with
the jacket.

Speaker 5 (49:07):
Yeah, they're going to go shopping with Okay, perfect, Yes,
I will let you know the date. We're going to
probably find a nursing home that is probably like in
the rock Away, somebody that really has no family that
nobody goes to visit. I don't want to go to
one that's in like Woodbury where families visit every day.
I want to go to one where they're really really needed.

(49:28):
So that's what we're going to do into this pop
up shop, and hopefully we can do that monthly.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
That would be the goal.

Speaker 5 (49:33):
And if anybody wants or needs anything that they want
to start a Nursing Home Warrior in their town, please
contact me again at Danielle Pagolotta's leaveline, very easy to find.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
That's that's that's somebody's plan.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Here's here's why it needs to do that. Not only
you know very have a need for clothes. It's when
they clicked into the attention and the feeling of shop again. Right,
Because when I would take people from the boat rides
on the fireboat, right, they would come off beaming, right
because they got to do something they used to do

(50:09):
and the you know, the joy of ripping across the bay, right,
remember the guy. No, absolutely, it brings you back. Well,
it just you know, they funneled down and this takes
them back up. Remember the time we went to Macy's
on forty eighth Street in nineteen twenty seven and we
took the you know.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
It just makes them feel human again.

Speaker 5 (50:29):
It makes them feel like they're important, because who doesn't
love wearing a new shirt?

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Right? And you know a lot of people and yourself
included not me, like to go shopping.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
That is where we're.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Totally Yeah, that's for sure.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
Although I just say when we went shopping for the residents,
you count have been happier.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Well that you were.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
You were amazing. Thank you so much for that.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
You're welcome.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
It's at this point of the show each week that
we summoned Ray pretty mister three thousand down to Cape Coral, Florida.
Mister three thousand h I remind everyone to lifeback dot net,
lifeback dot net, use codem I t a take it away. Ray.

Speaker 11 (51:17):
Well, good evening, everyone coming to you from I wish
I could say Sonny, South Florida, but it's not. It's
going to be a rainy weekend for us, but so
bluehe We kind of need it down here.

Speaker 10 (51:27):
So we'll take it, you know. But how's everyone doing tonight?

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Rock and roll? Did you listen to the show, Ray.

Speaker 10 (51:34):
I've been listening to the entire show.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Don't you love the silver threads thing?

Speaker 11 (51:39):
I love it, absolutely love it.

Speaker 10 (51:42):
It was way back.

Speaker 11 (51:43):
Kristen worked in a nursing home for many, many of years,
so it definitely hit home here. We understand completely.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
We can start one in Florida.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
I was just thinking, we can.

Speaker 10 (51:55):
More free work, Buddy, I'll send you a bill eventually,
I promised.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Great, great Jagie.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Everybody went good.

Speaker 10 (52:04):
That's right, that's right, Well, folks, let's get right into it.

Speaker 11 (52:07):
Uh, Bobby, go ahead and run that number for us.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Reported, Oh my goodness, how can you read that?

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Twenty children?

Speaker 10 (52:23):
You could be man.

Speaker 11 (52:24):
I love when that number is wrong, and that's wrong.
Saved four thousand, two hundred and ninety one save baby. Yeah,
two thousand, six hundred and twenty children to date. And
just a little background, folks on mister three thousand, because
I saved my daughter. Uh she was number three thousand

(52:48):
on the Florida Road two hundred and fifty six days
ago is when I saved her, and since then one thousand,
two hundred and ninety one life saved.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Keep going.

Speaker 11 (53:03):
I mean, that's just as good as it gets, right there, folks,
as good as it gets.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Yeah, man, fantastic. Do you have a save of the week.

Speaker 11 (53:11):
I have a great save for the week. This came
came in yesterday. Was a four year old boy in
Maryland choked on a chicken nugget, causing total blockage of
his airway. Life back was used one time to successfully
dislodge the food. The parents said that the child couldn't breathe,

(53:33):
the color of his skin was changing, and all required
steps was followed. The food was dislodged the first try
and ultimately was saved by the life back.

Speaker 10 (53:46):
Every time.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Dude, you know, I know, I know you, and I
know those hit you because you were in that situation.
But it's so important that you join on and you
continue to make awareness even though you know you went
through it, and for people to hear that, because that
is real, that is is really gets. I think I
posted that one and I said, this is the real

(54:08):
as it gets. That's what you have to consider. You
have to be aware of and you know, get trained
and get a life back if you have a child. Man,
that's a great idea.

Speaker 11 (54:17):
And as a parent, you don't want to you don't
want to be in that situation and not be ready.
You absolutely have to be ready. It's going to happen.
It happened to me, and it's happened to four and
ninety one other people who have used the device to
save somebody. This happens every day. And the last thing
you want to be is a parent in a situation

(54:39):
that you know, when your child is choking and nothing helps,
you know, you just you don't want to be there,
trust me.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Yeah, the reason life back is sitting right next to me.
That was seventh. You know she was seven then, but
back in the day when you were ye.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Back in the day when she was much younger.

Speaker 10 (54:58):
I much much younger.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Yeah, it sounds like time for your catchphrase is that miam,
look at that Maya is able to interrupt, and I love.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
It, Miss is three thousand or Miss Princess.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
All right, that was horrible.

Speaker 10 (55:19):
All right, folks, uh life back.

Speaker 11 (55:22):
Far better to have it and never need it than
need it and not have it.

Speaker 10 (55:26):
The life you save could be your own. Good night,
and God bless I.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Love you, Ray, Thank you buddy.

Speaker 10 (55:33):
Next week.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
God, how great is it that he anchors the show
each week?

Speaker 1 (55:39):
But I think that's a great way to go out
of course, right, And and you know when he does
the same of the week, and I get him all
the time, and I do think I posted that one.
You get a lot of times, you really get a
feel like sometimes yes, yes, saved the life, Yes did
you do black bos? Yes, you know, but as a
matter of fact, well, well it's fine. I mean, God,

(56:01):
it's fine. But sometimes they will write, you know, I
ran in the kitchen. He was turning blue, and you
start to get that real feeling. And why it's great
that Ray, because he's a god guy, jumped intown to
help us. Because you can't tell him that it's not necessary.
You can't tell him to be more sincere when he

(56:21):
reads these, you know, because I've been with him in
public and he will break down and if you haven't
you met Maya. She's awesome. Remember when she went whizzing
across the floor, totally crashed and then got up with everything.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
She knows who Pete Rose was, but she did a
Pete Rose you know superman and.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
She still is eligible for the whole estates.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Yes, really great. So I mean every week that we
get a chance to speak with Ray on the man
in the arena, it's a it's a gosh, it's a gift.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Listeners start to kind of get some, you know, the hope.
The show generates thought and ends with a positive note. Right,
we thought it with the same plunger in the garage
and then we saved lives like that, so anyone could
do anything.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
And you can get your own life act. If you
don't have one, shame on you. But let's go to
www Dot life fact dot net.

Speaker 10 (57:20):
No.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
I think folks are listening to this across the country
and have heard the story. Maybe not so much the
general discussion, but when they talk you hear Ray Preby
give the details the people behind them and the families.
Go to life Fact dott and get the original. Beware knockoffs.
We've done a few shows now, and we tend to
bring it up a lot, and we need to because

(57:42):
there are counterfeits and knock us out there that could
that could you know, kill.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
And once again, if we tie it all the way back,
AI's comment, Yeah, we believe right, they get to show
that there's one one of these knockoffs claims one hundred
thousand lives stay. Yeah, right, you've seen that one.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
I haven't even know.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
I haven't seen that one yet.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
It's manipulating. That's more for the next show. I want
to thank Danielle, I want to thank Jackie and of
course Arthur Lee. My name is Rick and join us
next week. And it's about time for Mike Row to
take us away.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Microw, it's no joke.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
When you choke to get life back and without breath,
they'll be death Cigat life back and God life back,
and God's life lie back, life back and life back
and

Speaker 5 (59:01):
Fix
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