July 17, 2025 • 57 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 1 (00:55):
Man in the arena. Yeah, I'm woman and woman.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, attention, listen. A lot very often we go back
and ask Teddy Roosevelt, what did you mean by that quote?
And of course he meant to be inclusive. Teddy Roosevelt
was an inclusive gentleman. He just man.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
The woman gotten carried away with that stupid Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
People in the arena, and and listen, let's let's look
back at the one of the first executive orders of
President Trump's first day, he clarified and he made it
okay to say there were two sexes. I mean that
was an issue that was waiting.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, that one.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah. So you've had a we always say this. You
had a very interesting day yesterday, you know, just average
run of the mill hanging out with Ben Carson.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, no kidding. And here's one of those things, which
is kind of cool. You have a hint. You two
have no idea what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Total surprise.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yeah, which is kind of cool because neither is the audience.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
It's not brain surgery. Ben Carson, get it.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I had him say that we were goofed a rab
where we're doing a commercial, and we did one where
you go. I said, you don't have to be a
brain certain in hes like fact, just place push and
pull and he goes, or you could be It was
so fun, but to lead into that that type of
manian So I had the honor of hanging out with
Candy and Bank Carson. Yeah, and there. If I could
(02:20):
put them in every home in America, we would be
done and we'd have the we'd be back to the
greatest country ever. Humble, kind, smart, uh, connected to God
and just amazing people. Right, but how do you you
know whoever gets to hang out and shoot pool with
Ben Carson? So the Manly the Arena book is really
(02:42):
about foundations, right, How we have a foundation, right, how
we make decisions right when you're young, you make yoda.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I didn't think of that.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
It was a dumb decision because that's how you build
your repertoire in your brain of how you make future decisions.
The book and is a lie solved. Sorry, kids, I
don't even my own book.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
No, listen, and then you can get that at the
website that I referenced earlier. Www dot life, act dot net.
Get this book. Sorry, cant is alive and actually just
picked today.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
It's the final version. The published version is coming out
of my Bobb's birthday September twenty seven. So we'll talk
about Yeah, well I picked oh no and call the
godwink that's.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Okay, and I went to sleep.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Wait a little, So that's just flirting and what the heck?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That one? No good?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I let's add that anyway, So I'm hanging out with
him and we're playing pool and talking and three times
during the day I would kind of come out with
one of my reasons for doing something, and he would
quote a som right, and they would connected thousands of
years apart, so similar lessons. Yeah, so I'm gonna we're
(03:57):
gonna do a little exercise you made, Jim Kerr.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
This for the listening public.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
I want you to take this stick and break it
in half, take as long as little as you want.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
For those listening at home in San Diego, Los Angeles, Houston, Orlando, Dallas,
New York, and Alantown, PA. We have this what looks
like a ice cream stick. Then yeah, tongue, and we
break it in half.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I'll put it. How close you got?
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Oh boy, well it didn't break evenly.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Or even close to half.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
Break where I want.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I'm pretty close. I'm a lefty, Okay, So here's the question.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Right, so we've broken our sticks and.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Now mutilated hers, and wasn't even close.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
To a lot of aggression there we should look into.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
It was pretty close hat not too bad, right, I
was close to.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
I said to break it in half, you said break
the stick.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And you said anywhere.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
Thank you for that.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
So we go back.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Who can't properly pronounce how to break it? In half. Anyway.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
The point of the matter was I went into discussing, uh,
this decision making right, which is the flat squirrel. You
got to make a decision. But this exercise was exploring
because we were playing pool. Sometimes golf you overthink right
and you were perfectly aligned. And then you said maybe
you missed it. Did anyone that was breaking it? You know,
(05:17):
we weren't quite sure on the half part feel that
their adjustment made it worse.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I didn't even think about it.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I really didn't think about it either, and Pat would
Lisa back you up on that.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
You just didn't think sometimes, yeah, but sometimes that's all right.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
But my second one I thought about and I got
I did much better.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
But all right, I just believe it's much better. I believe.
That's why I have to think about it.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
So I was telling him the story and then he
came back with a salmon. I don't remember it exactly,
but one of them in Solomon is he who hesitates
is lost.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Benceil party, so I think and Solomon.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Yeah, well, Vince took it from Solomon, of course, but
that was one of his plagiarizer.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
But here's the kind of the we're going to wrap
into what we what I think we could and should
talk about. So over the years, you know, we learned
from our parents. You couldn't google it. You know, we'd
sit around the dinner table and fight over whether Babe
Ruth was better than Willie May's or in my house
it was usually something canical, you know. I wanted to
go over and iron falls and a bubble, mom screaming
(06:25):
me and dad and discussing the physics. But it was discussion,
right because there was no app And Jackie made a
point on board him. Back in the day, you were bored.
Your only option was to go do something right. You
couldn't sit there on your phone and just wake up
an hour later and go.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Just talk about Jackie your daughter.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah, So so we started talking, and I said, I
started sharing some things we used to do around the
dinner table. Right, So we'd say, you know, first was
how was school? And then eventually they get into good
how'd you do? Until word answer right? And I would
persevere and say something like and I learned this was
(07:04):
a good one to get him going.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Anything funny happened?
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Right? Or if you know they had Jim and they
were doing line dancing, I was line dancing. That's hysterical.
I can't believe you guys do that. So to stimulate
the conversation. So then I was thinking what Ben Carson
did with his kids. He'd pick a psalm for dinner
and he'd say it and they'd all discuss it, you know,
what they thought, what it meant to them, and stuff
(07:29):
like that. And I was like, wow, that's pretty cool.
His kids started out pretty good. He obviously did all right,
So what a cool way to interact. And you think
about it, the technology has moved so fast, like we're
the last generation that can connect pretty much to our
parents and our grandparents.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
So I was born in the sixties.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Well they you know, Grandpa got radio, went to TV.
What's the big deal?
Speaker 7 (07:56):
Now?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
You could see still here, wasn't that big a deal.
Dad started radio, went to TV, you know, made it
partially into this world. He was never on TikTok or anything.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Thank god.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
You wanted my grandfather wanted to understand something, he went
to the library.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
My dad wanted the son. He went to the library.
I went to the library, not often. But the point is,
now it's a whole new world. O.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Good, right, And so to interject what my thought was
realizing that and the social consequences of technology, which we
talked about last time. First question, how did you guys?
Did you sit around the dinner table and with their discussions, Pat,
I got to hear this. Your family's hysterical.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
The only story I can relate to this is remember,
like you, we listened to songs like Billy Joel the Captain,
Jack will get you in today. Yeah, so as I
tell my I'm gonna get Jack Daniels's drinking Jack Daniels
and my son Connor is googling you.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
No, no, it's not a drug dealer. I've lived on
the pot, and I'm like, well, where did this come from? Yes?
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Just listen to your parents even put full of it.
Just listen to and then you figure out someday. My
parents were full of it. They didn't know everything right,
but that's how we figured it out.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
But your house was pretty funny. Did you guys crack
up around the all time?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah? Now in your typical dide, you sit down to dinner, Yeah,
and look at me close you and home go to
that camp. Yeah, works working on it.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
But so was Like eventually we had to stop out
of dinner because me and Dad would get in fights
over bubbles, over the thing, Mom be yelling at us
and all that. But it was interactive, to say the least.
I can't imagine with your mom what it was like.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
But well she has a today technology issue with which
she can get into it in a little bit finished.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
So was it a comic thing like back and forth? Always? Always?
Speaker 5 (09:48):
And then then I married a girl who every Sunday
still we get together with her big Italian family. Yeah,
and they all just scream at each other and we
just we go home a car right home. We just
take front of all RL's. I mean, we love them,
like yeah, yeah, that's fine. My in law are insane,
but they're like the lockhorns. Now they have a under
over the windows, start arguing and it's usually about a
minute in.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Do the kids sit in? That's cool? See, that's cool
right now? When you know, I've seen lately a lot
of kids stuck. They're just on their phone and when
they're off, they don't have to talk.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And I was very.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Kind of glad when Jackie said we were on our
trip and she didn't have a phone, and she said,
I got to re embrace for them.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
That's Jackie.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Who's calling. We have a caller, just kidding, So come on,
give me let's go to her with the woman in
the arena. What was your your growing up? How did
you learn things? How did you interact?
Speaker 6 (10:48):
I don't know if my family's listening, I can edit
this out. I don't know if they're listening. I feel terrible,
a little dysfunctional. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Right, you can't spell fun without dysfunctional. Just so you know,
you could lie, you choose not to.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
Okay, it was really very close, that's true. No, it
was dysfunctional. There was a lot of talking.
Speaker 8 (11:13):
Sometimes the TV was playing in the background and we
were not even talking to each other but watching the
TV during dinner. It was very interesting. Well, it's not normal.
My son and I don't do that though, So my
son and I have a totally different relationship than I
had with my parents.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Now we were a lonely child.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
No, I'm not an only child.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Wait, wait, what what is the relationship with your son?
Speaker 7 (11:38):
Like?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
What do you how do you interact?
Speaker 6 (11:40):
We were like two peas in a pod. We are
so close. We off we left phe No, we don't
need the phone.
Speaker 8 (11:47):
We like every morning I leave him a note because
he started his internship. I'm so proud of him, and
I leave him a note and it refers back to
like one of the cartoons we watched as a kid,
so he used to watch da Well, you watched Max
and Ruby. So like yesterday morning, I wrote him a note,
I hope you have a day as great as Max
(12:08):
when he found his dragon shirt. Okay, so we have
a very good relationship with very close. He actually tells
me a little too much.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Do you want to talk about today's dynamic?
Speaker 6 (12:17):
I yeah, if you want to talk about it. I'm
still a little bit in shock about it, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
It's interaction and it happened between her son, and it
certainly involves the phone, but it's.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Up to you.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Well, I'll stick on that's for a second, because I
think the second phase is how can we help people
and give some ideas?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
So your family, what was it like so without the phone? Well,
when you're grown up?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Very yeah. I have one brother and it was just
my mom and my brother and very structured time. So
there wasn't any like it was a bell we were outside,
come in, yeah, yeah, start through and right away. But
it was it was fun. We'd talk and we didn't
really think about the structure of it, like, you know,
(13:08):
how is your day, what did you do? What did
you learn in school? I didn't have the same attention
to it that I think I did as a parent.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Well, and that along those lines, I don't think we
needed to as much as we do now because the
ability to say, you know, get stressed, great, you know
that you're watching something, I'm watching something you're can't connect
right back then you'd say, remember happy days yesterday, everyone
saw it. But my second part of this was that
his use of a topic right from the Bible. Now,
(13:41):
this book is huge, and it's very intimidating.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
He's referencing the Holy Bible, of which he has a copy.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
But breaking half. Yeah, but it's it's you know, it's intimidating.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
But there are things like proverbs that you're just a
short burst that you could then use for discussion. We
used to do ros wars right to get talking and
to be grateful for the things and minimalize the bad things.
So you know, what are ways that we can stimulate
the brain? Right? A proverb makes you think you can't
(14:14):
google the answer because it comes from inside you, you know,
So I was just the connection was amazing that his
proverbs met my wisdom from growing up. And how do
we perpetuate that the.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Lessons were there was a common thread from the stories
that you were sharing in the stories that Ben would
take a Bible verse or a proverb.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
But also I love the fact that he that the
dinner was about a topic of goodness. Right, what does
it mean to you?
Speaker 7 (14:46):
Right?
Speaker 4 (14:46):
You can't dodge that, you know. Probably we get out
of fighting over blowing over Niagara falls.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
True, Yeah, more about Niagara Falls after this break, we're
going to take a quick break. Daniells and Danielle's story
which is is I'm sure really build it up. Now
we've really built it up. But you're listening to the
man in the arena and you'll join us on the
other side. So we'll be right back.
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At the table one things that went on at the aurora?
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Did the dishes, one dried them, one swept, and then
one took all the gold. Every week you had a
different job, so you rotated. We talk you about it's
not my week. Yeah, imagine sometimes sometimes we break rooms
over each other.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Six kids, so not the right over like this, not
the little cross stick that was used to pay so much.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
So as you can tell, we're back on the man
in the area that meant something to me.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Okay, we're back.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Yeah, you just made the story to be so much
bigger than it is.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
No, it's actually pretty telling because number one, you've already
alluded to the fact that you, you and your son
have this great relationship, obviously comfortable sharing some pretty intimate
yes communications from a young woman, and it brings into
this technology right there in the middle.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
It's going down tonight. Nervous got my hand. My son's
here too.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
I couldn't read it.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
I sent it to Bobby. Could he put it up?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Bobby?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Do you high wait? Wait, what is the genre of
this biblical Well maybe so Jack.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Jack is my son, and he and I are in
a group chat with our neighbors who.
Speaker 8 (17:15):
Live below us, who we absolutely love, and we go
back and forth all the time about various uh issues
that happened and pop up during the day. And my
son wanted to share with us a text message interaction
that he met that he had with a woman girl
that he just met last night on snapchat.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
God yeah yeah. So he shared it in the group
and I was mortified.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
It could be fun, It could be fun.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Quite frankly, it's more of a scary moment.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
I think it was a really scary moment. And then
I explained to you why I thought. I'm scared.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
But see, that's why I think this is a time
of critical nature to make sure we have foundational discussions
on values, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
So what we're experiencing now here it is do you
want to let's see? So the woman says, what's the
doggo's name? Because he or she is super cute, and
when can I grab your bicep? So right there, it
took a turn, and your son replies, George, tomorrow night, babe.
The babe park, I'm not so this is from your
(18:23):
son that you were concerned.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Yeah, he doesn't know this girl, babe.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
And then he comes back with I have two questions.
What did you hit at the gym today? That's what'd
you work out? Translation? And when can I grab your
waist and make out with you? And make out I
think still means the same thing make out, skip, you know,
swapping spit.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
It makes a little bit more than that.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Oh it does, Yes, make out.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
This is why we got to get back to the
original discussion, come up with issues that we talk about.
So let's get back to fighting over engineering and floating
over the angle for Yes, that'd be great, Pat.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
You said in your family everyone had a job at dinner.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Yeah, six kids Brady bunch before boys, two girls. Yes,
but one brother did identify as a that's the whole thing.
He'd loved jan No one liked.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
It's weird anyway, Okay, Brady bunch of EF. That's kind
of a cool throwback too, Right, you'll have a job.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Everyone had a jobs and especially so one person set
the table, one person cleared the table, one person did dishes,
one person tried, one person did the garbage. When that
person didn't sweeping, And if you set the table, you
had to be home fifteen minutes early. You had to
be really you had to be home by like six o'clock.
And dinner we started at six er. If you were
at home for dinner, we just took your food. Yeah,
we'd look at on mother.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
And be like, he's score and he didn't eat that.
Speaker 8 (19:45):
She didn't eat that, which is so different than today
when when we ask our children what they want and
then twenty five different things.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Me bananas, my wife every when they were little, what's
everyone want? No, no, you get that for your birthday?
One day a year, we would get what.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
We wanted for ask meal.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I remember my mother every jail, your birthday got it.
It was food dated.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
I mean there's nights where you do you anyone ever
had to sit there to play the livery.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
String beating?
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Now me and that like three hours I went to
sleep under the table string beats. Can you believe I
refused to eat string beans?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I'm not eating to eat yeah, no doubt. I mean
I wouldn't have to hide. I've learned how to hide
certain vegetables inside the big potato. Yes that that worked well,
But you know I'm immediately brought back to around the
dinner table. The because we had a lot of neighbors
and people in the neighborhood, we were out playing. The
rules that would be had to be followed on asking
(20:44):
can someone eat over?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Can so and so eat over? It had to be
done in a very specific way.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
You know, really, did the mother invite you? Yeah? You know,
did you?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
What you invited is do they know they're coming? You know,
do we have enough? All those good things, But it
was always welcome. We had a good I certainly didn't
have the numbers at.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
The house, but that's kind of it's cool here. But
that's also something that isn't as prevalent. Six kids, you.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Know, they wanted to have ten. My dad died, so
what can you do?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yeah, yeah, having six seven household.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
She was twenty three with right, Wow, she's twenty three
with twenty three with six kids? Oh my god, twenty
seven a widow. Could you imagine twenty three now? You know,
they're afraid to cross the street.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I wanted to have more.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
I think if we kept having boys, we would have
kept going. So my wife's like, yeah, yeah, well I
went four and with a boy.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Boy and we had a girl. She's like, I'm done.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
I want to have as many as kid because like
they used to have a picnic and say two of
them idiots, right, still got three good people?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Right, It's like, yeah, in fight everyone, that's my family.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Now your son who is in the audience?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Per which one of mine?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
But I think good looking?
Speaker 8 (21:58):
You know.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
The hope of this discussion, it's to stimulate ideas of
helping the next generation develop their own mindsets, not Google
the answer.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
That's why this thing is. This thing is even the
video games and all that. It's just too much in
wonder room, too much in one room TV. But I
think he's.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Putting into the phone by that Wi Fi. But the yeah,
put in an E track. But the key is that
we have to be conscious of this. Right, it's going
so freaking fast, and COVID messed everyone up, so no
doubt a lot.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
We have a generation that's damaged.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
So even if the video games were a big thing
when my kids were little, and they still are, but
I was like, my kids got bored after like a
half an hour anyway, yeah someone twelve hours.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I'm like no. If they started doing it a lot,
I was like, get out of there. That's enough.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
You have to have rules at the dinner table.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Both. Yeah, you have to wear a shirt. You can,
you can Donald talk it, you don't have to, but
you have to wear a shirt. Shirt and the table.
He did.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
But again I didn't have to wear pants.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
My father in law used to come in. None of
us have pants on Sunday. Then he had a velcro
twel and nothing else. You prayed that velcro work.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Come on. First two dates with her, I was like,
oh my god, this guy comes to dinner like this
every Sunday. Was he funny too? Ah, he thinks he is.
He's a good guy. He does a lot for the vets.
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
There he goes.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
But anyway, I think that there's you know.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
This idea of topics because the other thing we used
to do, who's the guy Bob Ross who paints happy?
Speaker 6 (23:34):
You can see him on Pluto TV, the whole channel TV.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Man he's been dead, like you.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Get twenty four hours a day.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
You could watch.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Immediately, need to know.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
But if I may finish, just kidding, but we would
if you do Bob Ross, like we'd all get one.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
My dad was, you know, kind of going down.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
So he'd bed painting like red, but they teach you
you dap here, dap here, So we'd all do it
and then you know, kind of show each other our paintings.
But it was another way to get out and do
something together that was outside the box. And after a
while you kind of got decent at it, you know,
and it was a lot of fun. And I think
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we man in the arenas about us facing challenges, not
you know the guy on TV saying today big things happen,
just like yesterday. We're talking with people that are in
this arena and dealing with this and addressing something that
is kind of behind the scenes, but it's coming, you know.
And when spending time with the Carsons, I was able
(24:42):
to really step back and say, you know, David and Goliath,
the story that has a lesson how do they how
do you learn your foundation? If you can get the
answer right, kids do stupid things they're supposed to, That's
how they learned. Do you ever do anything stupid?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
No?
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Too many? No, too many? I would think not you
never never see.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Yeah, that would probably not got that from the movie.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
No, I actually did that. Do you remember you first?
Do you remember a moment of learning a lesson by
doing something stupid.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Oh yeah, Like anytime you got in trouble in school,
you were like, hey, definitely shouldn't have done that. They
call your parents and you go to the principal.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I got in trouble for bringing certain things to school,
showing the mayor of massive peoplea centerfold. I want to
see a pretty girl, firecracker, stink bombs. Yeah, well I
was screaming, screaming for attention. But did you learn a
lot of trouble. You would think that I would learn,
and it took a while. But again, I I rely
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on that myth or that or that thought that it
takes about twenty five years for the male brain to
fully like come into its own and to make good decisions.
Because I tested that. Oh, I think that's that's the average.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I was around thirty two.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
But yeah, way above average.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Well we done. We did dumb things.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
No, but that's that's that's the point the rock. Yeah,
well I have a book full of dumb things. But
the point was a dumb thing that taught you a lesson.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
My childhood girlfriend and I were riding our bikes and
the ice creaman truck man invited us into the ice
cream truck.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Oh boy, oh wait was it?
Speaker 8 (26:27):
You invited us into the ice cream truck and we
went in. He's like, take whatever you want, so we did.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
How old were you with this?
Speaker 8 (26:37):
We were riding bikes, so what were we? Eleven twelve?
Were riding bikesround neighborhood. And I got home and I
showed my mom all this ice cream and I was
so happy. I was like, look at all this ice cream.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
My god.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I didn't have to pay for it. And I definitely
learned that. Probably it was hard. I've learned a lesson
about ever going into somebody's truck agout, but I learned that.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I learned that.
Speaker 8 (26:57):
I learned that lesson immediately, and I never went in
the ice cream truck again.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Did you think at the time that there was like afterwards,
when Mom pointed it out that it was wrong, did
you look back and say, wow, you know what that
was dangerous?
Speaker 8 (27:09):
I did, because she really scared up to who he's
out of me. I learned a serious lesson. I never
got into an ice cream truck.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
And now you get I never got you.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
But don't you sir.
Speaker 8 (27:24):
If it was a mississ Sophie, I'd probably consider it
because I really looked like I might.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
But regular.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
But now we get on an app and a stranger
shows up and we get in the call.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
That back to the text messages that my son doesn't
know this girl, and I'm like, I don't understand how
this can happen when we don't know her.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
I think was reversed and you were talking to your
daughter in a situation.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
The people that think about is to think of those
situations and then use something like the Bible or quote
or a hobby something to reevaluate the communication. Because my
nephew dude was over and it's so hard to talk
to me. You can't get them to talk, you know,
and you're.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Think and we talked about this earlier thought. Certainly covid
UH influence definitely.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
It is parents.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
It's from four years old. Don't stand behind my knee,
go say hi to him. This is company, this is
our friend, this is all. My kids are pretty good
with that socially, because I was always like that, right
and I, you know, and I can't stand when the
parents are he's shy, Well tell him not to be shy.
Speaker 9 (28:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
This is how you live in the real world. Go
see and sometimes it's relatives of mine.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
When my nieces were little, I said to my brother
Kevin once, I'm like, you know, I never even help you.
You know your kids, Well they're sh well, I'm there
their uncle, so I don't let them in the ice
cream truck.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Yeah, I was going to ask, did you that's tarantine?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
You got to stay on top of all. You know,
it's firmly more not the going on.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
That was a big lessons.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Thank goodness.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
You say other trucks are probably off base too.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
He didn't tell me about the APS truck one of those.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I love anything that plays music. Don't get it.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Well, that's a good lesson.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
It's a very good lesson, and I did learn it
right away.
Speaker 8 (29:16):
I mean my mom took it to the wherever you
can take it to about me getting kidnapped, getting killed,
getting murdered, getting the whole entire thing.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
I really was scared.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
You might want to check this thing out.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
That's this thing too, where like we used to go
out for six hours, seven hours, get in trouble, come home.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
No parents never knew. Right now with this thing, you
worry all the time.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
You can't get in touch with for ten minutes and
every horror story goes through your head right until you're
get in touch.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
With the bottom line of this discussion comes from the
AI and the lack of trust is what is the
damage that that's doing? And how do we understand that
we're in an age it's completely different.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
You know.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
The good thing when I was researching life back man,
I was able to find stuff. We the ability to
accomplish great things. Yeah, because we can get information and
make progress by seeing what was done. The problem is
if we just embrace what was done and not using
it to do other things. And in this instance, especially
here in the Carsons technique and their kids are amazing
(30:19):
that we need to reincorporate the understanding that this situation
is going on, right, and maybe me a little more
conscious of creating discussions right and even more so you know,
not everyone learns not to get an ice cream truck,
but even more so learning.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
You want some candy?
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Learning more foundational values right, right, Because not only do
we learn you know that if you take a hammer
and you smashing nail and your hands there, you're going
to hit it, right, but we also learn to be kind,
to be aware, to be considerate, to be friendly, but
not jumping ice cream trucks, to interact and to build
(31:08):
our own foundation that helps us with our kid There
your own Cantons livebook.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I'm curious, doctor Ben Carson, and you spend time with
him me playing pool and he's talking about raising his kids,
raising his family. Were there any challenges? I mean, because
it happens to everyone, right, Were there any challenges that
they faced with their kids?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
And you know, I'm sure they did. But when you
hear about the kind of the world they were brought
up in, I think they get addressed early. If you
take a proverb and discuss its up and down and stuff,
you're kind of starting to really build someone that has
a solid backing. Right. These thousand year old lessons are
(31:52):
useful today.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Right, So a lot of.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Their kids were brought up understanding their foundation, you know,
so you know the ice cream truck thing that you know, there.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Were proverbs about don't getting the ice cream truck.
Speaker 8 (32:06):
I think I think part of this is also not
only knowing the proverbs and studying and having those conversations,
but it's also the actual relationship you have with your children.
Because my son literally tells me everything again, things I
don't always want to know, but he knows that he
can tell me because I'm going to listen. I might
(32:26):
flip out a little bit because I've been known to
do that, but we have a trust with each other,
and I think that that's also important that the parents
make a safe place for the children to be able
to come and tell them anything without me judging him.
Although I just judged him on TV radio. I did
literally just judge him, But he's twenty one now. He
needs to get over that.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
It's a healthy concern that'tural a parent.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
How did you?
Speaker 4 (32:51):
How did you become such a fierce person for the elderly?
Like is there something in childhood?
Speaker 8 (32:58):
Like my mom says that even when I was little,
I just gravitated to them. And I firmly believe, and
I am not a Bible religious any kind of person
like that, but I believe in my heart that God
asked me to do this for him because he can't
do it right now. He's not here on earth, and
he needed somebody to advocate and love these people. And
(33:19):
he just told me at some point that it was
going to be me. And I don't have anything else
I can do except actually do this.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Well, you know that it's almost that it's an interesting
fact that they're constantly talking about elder housing, elder care facilities.
They didn't exist because people stayed home, you know. We
took the elderly. You know, grandparents lived with me until
they die, you know. And I think if that's another
piece of the puzzle that we have to maintain in
(33:47):
our heads, is a changing world.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yes, we're gonna I took care of my grandfather.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
When I was a little kid, which is beautiful.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
It's a gift we got away, Like Pat, you will
take care of your grandfather.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
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Speaker 3 (34:51):
Kid, Hey everyone, we're back. Welcome back to the man
in the Arena. I'm Rick Thatcher along with Patrick O'Rourke,
Arthur Lee and then sing Home Warrior Danielle. We were
just hearing about the reason or your why as to
your calling to be such a fierce defender of the elderly.
And it's it says a lot, Arthur was alluding to.
(35:12):
It says a lot about our society and in comparison
to other societies that you know, how we respect and
treat the elderly.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
But he is he is the bigger picture right then.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Carson mcame the world renowned surgeon and incredible human being,
but his early years he had anger issues and you
know he's brought up in poverty and his ability to
change came from God in the Bible and the proverbs
and reading the Bible and his wife too.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
So there is a Tony Robbins do what works right.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
So when I was success clues, Yeah, he would always say,
if you want to be a great golfer, do what
Tiger Woods does, you know?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
So I was taking that in that.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
You know, there's a statistic and it goes back to
games to count something like eighty percent of ententrepreneurs played
sports and eighty percent.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Of convicts didn't.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
And it's really dramatic. Yeah, it's really dramatic. But once again,
that's where my brain circled into breaking sticks and talking
about this, because I said, if someone uses a path
to become that great, I mean, you're a neurosurgeon, you
ran for president, you've been the housing director, you have
a credible family, and him and his wife are just
(36:30):
awesome together.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Maybe we should do stuff like that to become like that.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Right, So with this world and not this world that's
the Bible, how do we get there?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
And why not just follow his lead?
Speaker 3 (36:44):
How did he do it? Does he give credit to
the Bible to God without that no turnaround? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Absolutely, you don't know doctor.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Ben Carson as the incredible human being that he is.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Yeah, but his ability, I mean he's a neurosurgeon, which
isn't hugely difficult, but he was able to rely on
these this book, these words, Like you said, I started
to read the Bible about a sentence in.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
And I'm like, I don't even know what's going on.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Right, So when he mentioned the proverbs with a little
bits of wisdom. I said, that's not my alley. So
maybe we can incorporate not be intimidated by this book
cliff notes exactly proverbs cliff notes of the Bible.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
It supposedly doctor Stanley's Bible is he has like little
cliff notes on the side of it. But like you're
supposed to interpret your own way though, right, you can't
just see thought.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Well, that's why I thought.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
The proverb discussion was good because you can interpret it.
You can interpret the mic. Maybe we'll do it, but.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
It's basically the same thing at all. The lessons in it,
you know, be good, be generous, Yeah, help your fellow men.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
But a lot of them are you know, talk about
like pulling out a depression or there are actual issues
that it addresses that make you talk about things. And
I think that was what he was able to use
those moments to overcome things with some guidance. And if
we share with our kids or in our lives, you know,
(38:11):
you know someone you kind of can talk to them
by using something to stimulate that discussion and get us
out of the day to day brain. All right, people
spiral down all the time. How he stop them, you know?
Speaker 1 (38:24):
And how do we get people to talk again? I'm
going to fat kid. Oh yeah, I know, did you
start tomorrow? But I'll talk to not at all. I
talk too much. Do you actually will get rid of me?
Speaker 7 (38:37):
No?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
They just called me from minutes from North Carolina. Now
you got to dance around on the screen.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Maybe if they won't be I'll take pictures. I'll do
it shirtless.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
We talk about the size of this book, Arthur, the
Holy Bible which you have here, and there's other ways
to make it, uh, you know, connect to today's world.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
We have.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
A gift that was just given to us by one
of our most dedicated and loyal followers, Lisa Warner. It
is perfect and it breaks it down for like little
daily lessons. I remember from college I was introduced to
a publication called Our Daily Bread. Great organization where you know,
you have a little book. It looks like a day planner,
(39:23):
but it's got a little like life lesson and then
it relates back to parts of the Bible that you
can you know, learn more.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Tea, I guess part of me was saying, I wish
I had known this when she was little, because it's
such a cool way to discuss things. Now.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
I've tried page pretty good job for.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Us as creative roads and thorns, and you know, trying
to infiltrate and ask what you know was challenged just
different ways. But if we were able to help others,
it would be using topic maybe to help. And this
is a great source of these topics that once again
this death machine is also a live machine. Google and
(40:02):
say proverb for tonight and you'll get one right. So
you got something to talk about. No doubt that you're pondering.
What are you?
Speaker 5 (40:09):
I think it's more like you want to be a
catalyst to your kids and your loved ones about teach
me the things that you had. But there's a guy
who wrote a book. It's called Coach. It's only like
ninety pages. And he went to high school with Peyton
and Eli Manning private school down in New Orleans. He
was the football, basketball, and baseball coach. And like everyone
who had this coach, he was there for thirty years.
It was like he was better than I learned more
(40:31):
from him than the Bible I learned. And he taught
you life lessons about being a man, you know, taking
responsibility for what you're doing. If you came in five
out pounds overweight. You know, you committed to that, and
the parents used to call and complain and he'd be like,
then fire me, and no one ever fired him because
they the guy was around for thirty five years. Thirty
thirty five years. I'll bring the book and it's a
(40:51):
great book.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
It's right, coach. I love it.
Speaker 5 (40:52):
But it reminds me of almost like a Bible type thing, right,
and everyone wants to be a catalyst every well not everyone,
but there's people out there who that's who you learn
from simply called coach.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
But that's kind of why I introduced Bob Roth or
or whatever you know TV. I don't care his ability
to set limits, show that teamwork and commitment and all
the values coaches, that's why that's the exists. Coaches raised
me me too. I was for he was for our
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dad's died, so we basically were raised by coaches.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Who's the coach in your life? Call? Was that you.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Question, mister till?
Speaker 7 (41:30):
Really?
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah, that's cool man? He was cool, dude. What about you,
ice cream man?
Speaker 7 (41:40):
You know who?
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Wait, let's check that out.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Who in your life was someone that kind of you learned?
Speaker 6 (41:46):
Or my mom my mom, who do you tear up
with a very strong woman, very very strong woman. She
gave me a lot of life lessons.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Definitely, she did good now helping the well that obviously
we all did.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Okay, so we our foundations were solid, our parents or
or coaches in you guys cases, facing something so tough
so young, there is a way. But I think back
then it was more natural coach. Now we're probably getting
trouble for what that guy did.
Speaker 5 (42:16):
The problem, that's the problem with our generation too, is
the threat used to be I'm going to call home
and be like, don't call home, Yeah, please pick you
up for fireworks. I was like to take me to
exactly around. Now you call home and they back up
the kid. Yeah, Well, once every kid lies, we all lie.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
We are conscious of this situation, I think is part
of which this show could do right to say these
things or remember people that influenced and say does my
kid have that? And if not, let's open the world
up to a foundational discussion. That's what I felt in
the Carson House, that their foundation was so solid that
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he could go on to be a brain surgeon from
nothing with no fault. So bad temper got in trouble
all the time, had guy, Yeah, and that it was
like twelve yeah, but that was the moment that he
started his Bible pursuit because he said, I can't control this.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
You got to take it.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
And and whether it was the interaction Guy or his
belief that it did, he was done. He got rid
of his anger and he said I cannot go down
this path. I will not make it. I need help
to get rid of his anger. I forget where was
he dressed? Where was he raised? Detroit bad neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Well, he grew up in very tough time, no dad,
and uh, you know his bomb worked crazy.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
I was besides the Bible, does he cite anyone his mom?
Speaker 5 (43:42):
And teachers he was like a child prodigy, was a
genius and like teaches quote onto it right away and
like this kid's a genius.
Speaker 9 (43:48):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (43:49):
He also worked, Oh yeah, like really hard, which I
think another thing we tend to kind of slack off on.
I remember I had a chop wood. I chopped a
lot of wood in my life because my father said
we want to have fire logs. I found down the block,
You're gonna chop We'd be going out. I'd be dressed
to be like, just chop the wood for us to
be like, I guess chopping wood in my kapezi. That's
(44:12):
another We all cut our own loan.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
I didn't have.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
I cut my loan and kpezios. No, you'll cut our
own lawn. We all oh yeah, And now this generation
doesn't do it, and it's you know, I don't know.
It trives me nuts. My kids did it. And there
was you know, at a baseball game one time and
they were like, oh, we're having a pool party. Go yeah,
cod as soon as you cut the loan, you can,
and he was like twelve, and every other mother was like,
cuts the lawn. He cut his hand off, like yeah,
(44:36):
we all cut our hands off, and look at the
landscapes have one hand.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Everyone's cutting their hands off.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
This generation we have, any non eight fallists will look
at me like that's what I said.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
I'm like, we'll just tell them he's cutting the lawn.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Hey, you know, it's time for a quick break. We're
going to be back with rain preb Misster three thousand.
He's gonna on this topic join us on the other side.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
We'll be right back.
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Speaker 1 (45:57):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
We had I had some work to go over with
him and get some advice on because god, I can
go to him for advice.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
And then we just hung out. She made lunch just
that's me. Took a couple of hundred bucks off me.
He beat me, but and you know you let him
within him like no, we beat me. I would know
was a brain surgeon. You know what was cool about that?
Speaker 3 (46:23):
You guys know we're back right.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
He had this.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
I just want to welcome back to the man arena,
we're talking about Carson.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
And COM's like I am a surgeon, soft hands.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
It was amazing.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
So I don't know if the radio audience Ray is
going to be joining us in a second. But I
don't know if the radio audience that's listening over the
weekend was uh privy to what we were just privy to.
And that is the advertisement that doctor Ben Carson does
for It's just so heartfelt and so genuine and so honest,
and it's such an honor. I really would because he's
(46:57):
such a soul, great gentleman. But let us wait no further,
mister three thousand, great.
Speaker 7 (47:04):
Preb Hey, hey, hey, what a great topic tonight, guys.
I love it, absolutely great topic.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
All right, buddy, you're on the spot. What are your techniques?
I mean, you have had numerous children in your life
from various areas.
Speaker 7 (47:25):
I'll say so, yes, yes we have. We have a
big household, five kids. Yeah, you know, we have adopted kids,
we have our kids. We you know, it's a very
blended household. And uh, one thing that we continue. Number one,
we always have dinner at the table, no phones, absolutely
no phones. So we sit down, we have a meal
(47:47):
and we talk and of course in today's world, you
have to force your kids to talk right. So again
I can't we my wife when I came up with,
you know, besides the how was your day it was,
tell me something good, tell me something bad, and tell
me something other otherwise about your day?
Speaker 1 (48:07):
I dig it.
Speaker 7 (48:08):
You can't can't just say oh, the day was good
and move on. No, what was good about it? What
was bad about it? And of course we usually get oh,
lunch was good, well great? What about lunch? Who did
you sit with? What did you guys talk about? Was
it a big crowd? You know? Who was involved? Again,
so you continuously have to dig and dig and dig
in today's world where there is so wrapped up in
(48:32):
when they're so wrapped up in their phones, and you
know all they want to do is you know, text
or TikTok or what.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
Did you think of the Carson's basically a topic meaning
a proverb and saying love.
Speaker 7 (48:46):
It, absolutely love it. And it was funny because as
I was listening to that, I came up with a
new idea that I'm going to start this this school
year with my kids. I want them to compare their
day to a Bible verse.
Speaker 6 (49:01):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
Love it.
Speaker 7 (49:03):
It was good compared to something in the Bible. It
was bad compared to something in the Bible. We are
a very devout Christian household. Uh. And it goes beyond
going to church every Sunday. We we pray together, we
talk together, we worship together. We you know, we bring
our problems and our praise to God on on a
(49:26):
daily weekly basis. I find it extremely important to build
that foundation, especially in today's youth where they are so
wrapped up with you.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
We have to be conscious as to kind of what
the discussion was.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
I knew you would be.
Speaker 4 (49:42):
My thought is the the cool thing when I thought
about Ben Carson and me and you saying give me
an open topic, but it'd be the interpretation right, not
necessarily finding it, but saying, how does that make you
think or feel exactly that one?
Speaker 7 (50:00):
You know?
Speaker 4 (50:01):
And I think it would stimulate and I think for
us too, write they may say something. Look, I had
early on with life that I met a doctor and
he was also a neurologist, and I gave my life
back and he looks at real quick and he goes,
this is genius. And I'm like, you're like a brain surgeon.
(50:21):
He's like, yeah, so the outside of the box with
a genius never thought of just using a sink plunder.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
So I think that there's that exists.
Speaker 4 (50:29):
If we present them with a topic or a psalm
or something, they may come up with something that we never.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
Even thought of because they are they are seeing different things.
Speaker 7 (50:41):
So it's amazing. And I've had these conversations you know
with my kids. What does that mean to you that
I love that, Yeah, because I'm really open. It gives
them the ability to think, and it also gives it
gives their impression their opinion on something that you have
an opinion on and it could be letely different, you know,
(51:02):
when you share that topic, when you share that information,
it creates such a foundation for your family that you
can build on.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Yeah, and you may, you know, we'll learn something, you know, And.
Speaker 7 (51:13):
Oh absolutely absolutely, you know.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
And I was I have this theory and it's particularly
surrounded around the neurological diseases because they're electrical, right, It's
an electrical problem. And we have this realm of people
that keep massaging similar answers or techniques. And I'm always
curious if you know a computer guy or an electrician
(51:37):
or a physicist if someone else was in the conversation,
if they might go you got it short and they
go what and they go you need a little duct
tape And the doctor says that'd be x y Z
again and he goes, yeah, what are you guys talking about?
Speaker 7 (51:52):
Right?
Speaker 1 (51:53):
We have to not be afraid to get out of
the box.
Speaker 4 (51:56):
Right, So we present a psalm to you know, ten
year old we might be like and it may create
answers we never knew or uncovered problems that we don't
even know are they are because we never did that
we were ten that was packed out of the house,
seeing Bayden the street lights come on.
Speaker 1 (52:14):
You know, hope you live, you live.
Speaker 7 (52:17):
Some of the conversations that you can have with kids
are just absolutely mind blowing. They're not afraid to share
their opinion and they're not afraid of what people think.
So it's when they give you their opinion, it's wholehearted
opinions on how they think. And as an adult you
can sit back and say, wow, I would have never
thought of that. Afraid to think.
Speaker 4 (52:38):
Along the lines of Ben Carson's kids being brought up
in this world and being very successful and him relying
on this I've met your kids.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
I love them.
Speaker 4 (52:47):
They're polite, they're fun, they are conscientious. They are what
kids are supposed to do. Like you said, Pat, you know,
you go and you introduce yourself, and you know, I
think that that there is a connection right to that,
and I I thought you would get a kick out
of today's discussion.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
That's why I wanted to bring on a little early.
Speaker 7 (53:07):
And absolutely love it. I do. And again I think
it falls back a lot on old school raising. You know,
you have to teach your kids how to present themselves,
how to act around uh people's houses. You know, you
don't walk in the house and go crazy, you know,
And a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
Hasn't learned that I'm working. I mean when I went
the car running around and jumping on the couch, drinking
out of the toilets, and we didn't like that, you know.
Speaker 3 (53:39):
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For the.
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Speaker 1 (54:31):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (54:32):
In the last minute, unbelievably, we're going long tonight. But
in the last minute, do you have a save of
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Speaker 7 (54:38):
Oh? Wait, hold the phone, Hold the phone. I do
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good one. Oh it's a it's a it's a good one.
Really like, yeah, I got goosebumps on this one. It's
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I was at a Fourth of July event at a
park up the street. The family of a little girl
was sitting next to me. The family started the panic
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she was excuse me, she was blue and not breathing.
EMUs responded quickly as they were on scene for the
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Speaker 4 (56:06):
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Speaker 3 (56:11):
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Speaker 1 (00:55):
Man in the arena. Yeah, I'm woman and woman.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, attention, listen. A lot very often we go back
and ask Teddy Roosevelt, what did you mean by that quote?
And of course he meant to be inclusive. Teddy Roosevelt
was an inclusive gentleman. He just man.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
The woman gotten carried away with that stupid Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
People in the arena, and and listen, let's let's look
back at the one of the first executive orders of
President Trump's first day, he clarified and he made it
okay to say there were two sexes. I mean that
was an issue that was waiting.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, that one.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah. So you've had a we always say this. You
had a very interesting day yesterday, you know, just average
run of the mill hanging out with Ben Carson.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, no kidding. And here's one of those things, which
is kind of cool. You have a hint. You two
have no idea what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Total surprise.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yeah, which is kind of cool because neither is the audience.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
It's not brain surgery. Ben Carson, get it.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I had him say that we were goofed a rab
where we're doing a commercial, and we did one where
you go. I said, you don't have to be a
brain certain in hes like fact, just place push and
pull and he goes, or you could be It was
so fun, but to lead into that that type of
manian So I had the honor of hanging out with
Candy and Bank Carson. Yeah, and there. If I could
(02:20):
put them in every home in America, we would be
done and we'd have the we'd be back to the
greatest country ever. Humble, kind, smart, uh, connected to God
and just amazing people. Right, but how do you you
know whoever gets to hang out and shoot pool with
Ben Carson? So the Manly the Arena book is really
(02:42):
about foundations, right, How we have a foundation, right, how
we make decisions right when you're young, you make yoda.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I didn't think of that.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
It was a dumb decision because that's how you build
your repertoire in your brain of how you make future decisions.
The book and is a lie solved. Sorry, kids, I
don't even my own book.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
No, listen, and then you can get that at the
website that I referenced earlier. Www dot life, act dot net.
Get this book. Sorry, cant is alive and actually just
picked today.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
It's the final version. The published version is coming out
of my Bobb's birthday September twenty seven. So we'll talk
about Yeah, well I picked oh no and call the
godwink that's.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Okay, and I went to sleep.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Wait a little, So that's just flirting and what the heck?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That one? No good?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I let's add that anyway, So I'm hanging out with
him and we're playing pool and talking and three times
during the day I would kind of come out with
one of my reasons for doing something, and he would
quote a som right, and they would connected thousands of
years apart, so similar lessons. Yeah, so I'm gonna we're
(03:57):
gonna do a little exercise you made, Jim Kerr.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
This for the listening public.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
I want you to take this stick and break it
in half, take as long as little as you want.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
For those listening at home in San Diego, Los Angeles, Houston, Orlando, Dallas,
New York, and Alantown, PA. We have this what looks
like a ice cream stick. Then yeah, tongue, and we
break it in half.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I'll put it. How close you got?
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Oh boy, well it didn't break evenly.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Or even close to half.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
Break where I want.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I'm pretty close. I'm a lefty, Okay, So here's the question.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Right, so we've broken our sticks and.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Now mutilated hers, and wasn't even close.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
To a lot of aggression there we should look into.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
It was pretty close hat not too bad, right, I
was close to.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
I said to break it in half, you said break
the stick.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And you said anywhere.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
Thank you for that.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
So we go back.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Who can't properly pronounce how to break it? In half. Anyway.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
The point of the matter was I went into discussing, uh,
this decision making right, which is the flat squirrel. You
got to make a decision. But this exercise was exploring
because we were playing pool. Sometimes golf you overthink right
and you were perfectly aligned. And then you said maybe
you missed it. Did anyone that was breaking it? You know,
(05:17):
we weren't quite sure on the half part feel that
their adjustment made it worse.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I didn't even think about it.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I really didn't think about it either, and Pat would
Lisa back you up on that.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
You just didn't think sometimes, yeah, but sometimes that's all right.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
But my second one I thought about and I got
I did much better.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
But all right, I just believe it's much better. I believe.
That's why I have to think about it.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
So I was telling him the story and then he
came back with a salmon. I don't remember it exactly,
but one of them in Solomon is he who hesitates
is lost.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Benceil party, so I think and Solomon.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Yeah, well, Vince took it from Solomon, of course, but
that was one of his plagiarizer.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
But here's the kind of the we're going to wrap
into what we what I think we could and should
talk about. So over the years, you know, we learned
from our parents. You couldn't google it. You know, we'd
sit around the dinner table and fight over whether Babe
Ruth was better than Willie May's or in my house
it was usually something canical, you know. I wanted to
go over and iron falls and a bubble, mom screaming
(06:25):
me and dad and discussing the physics. But it was discussion,
right because there was no app And Jackie made a
point on board him. Back in the day, you were bored.
Your only option was to go do something right. You
couldn't sit there on your phone and just wake up
an hour later and go.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Just talk about Jackie your daughter.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah, So so we started talking, and I said, I
started sharing some things we used to do around the
dinner table. Right, So we'd say, you know, first was
how was school? And then eventually they get into good
how'd you do? Until word answer right? And I would
persevere and say something like and I learned this was
(07:04):
a good one to get him going.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Anything funny happened?
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Right? Or if you know they had Jim and they
were doing line dancing, I was line dancing. That's hysterical.
I can't believe you guys do that. So to stimulate
the conversation. So then I was thinking what Ben Carson
did with his kids. He'd pick a psalm for dinner
and he'd say it and they'd all discuss it, you know,
what they thought, what it meant to them, and stuff
(07:29):
like that. And I was like, wow, that's pretty cool.
His kids started out pretty good. He obviously did all right,
So what a cool way to interact. And you think
about it, the technology has moved so fast, like we're
the last generation that can connect pretty much to our
parents and our grandparents.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
So I was born in the sixties.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Well they you know, Grandpa got radio, went to TV.
What's the big deal?
Speaker 7 (07:56):
Now?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
You could see still here, wasn't that big a deal.
Dad started radio, went to TV, you know, made it
partially into this world. He was never on TikTok or anything.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Thank god.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
You wanted my grandfather wanted to understand something, he went
to the library.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
My dad wanted the son. He went to the library.
I went to the library, not often. But the point is,
now it's a whole new world. O.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Good, right, And so to interject what my thought was
realizing that and the social consequences of technology, which we
talked about last time. First question, how did you guys?
Did you sit around the dinner table and with their discussions, Pat,
I got to hear this. Your family's hysterical.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
The only story I can relate to this is remember,
like you, we listened to songs like Billy Joel the Captain,
Jack will get you in today. Yeah, so as I
tell my I'm gonna get Jack Daniels's drinking Jack Daniels
and my son Connor is googling you.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
No, no, it's not a drug dealer. I've lived on
the pot, and I'm like, well, where did this come from? Yes?
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Just listen to your parents even put full of it.
Just listen to and then you figure out someday. My
parents were full of it. They didn't know everything right,
but that's how we figured it out.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
But your house was pretty funny. Did you guys crack
up around the all time?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah? Now in your typical dide, you sit down to dinner, Yeah,
and look at me close you and home go to
that camp. Yeah, works working on it.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
But so was Like eventually we had to stop out
of dinner because me and Dad would get in fights
over bubbles, over the thing, Mom be yelling at us
and all that. But it was interactive, to say the least.
I can't imagine with your mom what it was like.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
But well she has a today technology issue with which
she can get into it in a little bit finished.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
So was it a comic thing like back and forth? Always? Always?
Speaker 5 (09:48):
And then then I married a girl who every Sunday
still we get together with her big Italian family. Yeah,
and they all just scream at each other and we
just we go home a car right home. We just
take front of all RL's. I mean, we love them,
like yeah, yeah, that's fine. My in law are insane,
but they're like the lockhorns. Now they have a under
over the windows, start arguing and it's usually about a
minute in.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Do the kids sit in? That's cool? See, that's cool
right now? When you know, I've seen lately a lot
of kids stuck. They're just on their phone and when
they're off, they don't have to talk.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And I was very.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Kind of glad when Jackie said we were on our
trip and she didn't have a phone, and she said,
I got to re embrace for them.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
That's Jackie.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Who's calling. We have a caller, just kidding, So come on,
give me let's go to her with the woman in
the arena. What was your your growing up? How did
you learn things? How did you interact?
Speaker 6 (10:48):
I don't know if my family's listening, I can edit
this out. I don't know if they're listening. I feel terrible,
a little dysfunctional. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Right, you can't spell fun without dysfunctional. Just so you know,
you could lie, you choose not to.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
Okay, it was really very close, that's true. No, it
was dysfunctional. There was a lot of talking.
Speaker 8 (11:13):
Sometimes the TV was playing in the background and we
were not even talking to each other but watching the
TV during dinner. It was very interesting. Well, it's not normal.
My son and I don't do that though, So my
son and I have a totally different relationship than I
had with my parents.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Now we were a lonely child.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
No, I'm not an only child.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Wait, wait, what what is the relationship with your son?
Speaker 7 (11:38):
Like?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
What do you how do you interact?
Speaker 6 (11:40):
We were like two peas in a pod. We are
so close. We off we left phe No, we don't
need the phone.
Speaker 8 (11:47):
We like every morning I leave him a note because
he started his internship. I'm so proud of him, and
I leave him a note and it refers back to
like one of the cartoons we watched as a kid,
so he used to watch da Well, you watched Max
and Ruby. So like yesterday morning, I wrote him a note,
I hope you have a day as great as Max
(12:08):
when he found his dragon shirt. Okay, so we have
a very good relationship with very close. He actually tells
me a little too much.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Do you want to talk about today's dynamic?
Speaker 6 (12:17):
I yeah, if you want to talk about it. I'm
still a little bit in shock about it, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
It's interaction and it happened between her son, and it
certainly involves the phone, but it's.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Up to you.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Well, I'll stick on that's for a second, because I
think the second phase is how can we help people
and give some ideas?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
So your family, what was it like so without the phone? Well,
when you're grown up?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Very yeah. I have one brother and it was just
my mom and my brother and very structured time. So
there wasn't any like it was a bell we were outside,
come in, yeah, yeah, start through and right away. But
it was it was fun. We'd talk and we didn't
really think about the structure of it, like, you know,
(13:08):
how is your day, what did you do? What did
you learn in school? I didn't have the same attention
to it that I think I did as a parent.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Well, and that along those lines, I don't think we
needed to as much as we do now because the
ability to say, you know, get stressed, great, you know
that you're watching something, I'm watching something you're can't connect
right back then you'd say, remember happy days yesterday, everyone
saw it. But my second part of this was that
his use of a topic right from the Bible. Now,
(13:41):
this book is huge, and it's very intimidating.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
He's referencing the Holy Bible, of which he has a copy.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
But breaking half. Yeah, but it's it's you know, it's intimidating.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
But there are things like proverbs that you're just a
short burst that you could then use for discussion. We
used to do ros wars right to get talking and
to be grateful for the things and minimalize the bad things.
So you know, what are ways that we can stimulate
the brain? Right? A proverb makes you think you can't
(14:14):
google the answer because it comes from inside you, you know,
So I was just the connection was amazing that his
proverbs met my wisdom from growing up. And how do
we perpetuate that the.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Lessons were there was a common thread from the stories
that you were sharing in the stories that Ben would
take a Bible verse or a proverb.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
But also I love the fact that he that the
dinner was about a topic of goodness. Right, what does
it mean to you?
Speaker 7 (14:46):
Right?
Speaker 4 (14:46):
You can't dodge that, you know. Probably we get out
of fighting over blowing over Niagara falls.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
True, Yeah, more about Niagara Falls after this break, we're
going to take a quick break. Daniells and Danielle's story
which is is I'm sure really build it up. Now
we've really built it up. But you're listening to the
man in the arena and you'll join us on the
other side. So we'll be right back.
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Speaker 5 (15:56):
Did the dishes, one dried them, one swept, and then
one took all the gold. Every week you had a
different job, so you rotated. We talk you about it's
not my week. Yeah, imagine sometimes sometimes we break rooms
over each other.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Six kids, so not the right over like this, not
the little cross stick that was used to pay so much.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
So as you can tell, we're back on the man
in the area that meant something to me.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Okay, we're back.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Yeah, you just made the story to be so much
bigger than it is.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
No, it's actually pretty telling because number one, you've already
alluded to the fact that you, you and your son
have this great relationship, obviously comfortable sharing some pretty intimate
yes communications from a young woman, and it brings into
this technology right there in the middle.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
It's going down tonight. Nervous got my hand. My son's
here too.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
I couldn't read it.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
I sent it to Bobby. Could he put it up?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Bobby?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Do you high wait? Wait, what is the genre of
this biblical Well maybe so Jack.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Jack is my son, and he and I are in
a group chat with our neighbors who.
Speaker 8 (17:15):
Live below us, who we absolutely love, and we go
back and forth all the time about various uh issues
that happened and pop up during the day. And my
son wanted to share with us a text message interaction
that he met that he had with a woman girl
that he just met last night on snapchat.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
God yeah yeah. So he shared it in the group
and I was mortified.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
It could be fun, It could be fun.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Quite frankly, it's more of a scary moment.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
I think it was a really scary moment. And then
I explained to you why I thought. I'm scared.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
But see, that's why I think this is a time
of critical nature to make sure we have foundational discussions
on values, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
So what we're experiencing now here it is do you
want to let's see? So the woman says, what's the
doggo's name? Because he or she is super cute, and
when can I grab your bicep? So right there, it
took a turn, and your son replies, George, tomorrow night, babe.
The babe park, I'm not so this is from your
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son that you were concerned.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Yeah, he doesn't know this girl, babe.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
And then he comes back with I have two questions.
What did you hit at the gym today? That's what'd
you work out? Translation? And when can I grab your
waist and make out with you? And make out I
think still means the same thing make out, skip, you know,
swapping spit.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
It makes a little bit more than that.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Oh it does, Yes, make out.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
This is why we got to get back to the
original discussion, come up with issues that we talk about.
So let's get back to fighting over engineering and floating
over the angle for Yes, that'd be great, Pat.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
You said in your family everyone had a job at dinner.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Yeah, six kids Brady bunch before boys, two girls. Yes,
but one brother did identify as a that's the whole thing.
He'd loved jan No one liked.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
It's weird anyway, Okay, Brady bunch of EF. That's kind
of a cool throwback too, Right, you'll have a job.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Everyone had a jobs and especially so one person set
the table, one person cleared the table, one person did dishes,
one person tried, one person did the garbage. When that
person didn't sweeping, And if you set the table, you
had to be home fifteen minutes early. You had to
be really you had to be home by like six o'clock.
And dinner we started at six er. If you were
at home for dinner, we just took your food. Yeah,
we'd look at on mother.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
And be like, he's score and he didn't eat that.
Speaker 8 (19:45):
She didn't eat that, which is so different than today
when when we ask our children what they want and
then twenty five different things.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Me bananas, my wife every when they were little, what's
everyone want? No, no, you get that for your birthday?
One day a year, we would get what.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
We wanted for ask meal.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I remember my mother every jail, your birthday got it.
It was food dated.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
I mean there's nights where you do you anyone ever
had to sit there to play the livery.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
String beating?
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Now me and that like three hours I went to
sleep under the table string beats. Can you believe I
refused to eat string beans?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I'm not eating to eat yeah, no doubt. I mean
I wouldn't have to hide. I've learned how to hide
certain vegetables inside the big potato. Yes that that worked well,
But you know I'm immediately brought back to around the
dinner table. The because we had a lot of neighbors
and people in the neighborhood, we were out playing. The
rules that would be had to be followed on asking
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can someone eat over?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Can so and so eat over? It had to be
done in a very specific way.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
You know, really, did the mother invite you? Yeah? You know,
did you?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
What you invited is do they know they're coming? You know,
do we have enough? All those good things, But it
was always welcome. We had a good I certainly didn't
have the numbers at.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
The house, but that's kind of it's cool here. But
that's also something that isn't as prevalent. Six kids, you.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Know, they wanted to have ten. My dad died, so
what can you do?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yeah, yeah, having six seven household.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
She was twenty three with right, Wow, she's twenty three
with twenty three with six kids? Oh my god, twenty
seven a widow. Could you imagine twenty three now? You know,
they're afraid to cross the street.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I wanted to have more.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
I think if we kept having boys, we would have
kept going. So my wife's like, yeah, yeah, well I
went four and with a boy.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Boy and we had a girl. She's like, I'm done.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
I want to have as many as kid because like
they used to have a picnic and say two of
them idiots, right, still got three good people?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Right, It's like, yeah, in fight everyone, that's my family.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Now your son who is in the audience?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Per which one of mine?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
But I think good looking?
Speaker 8 (21:58):
You know.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
The hope of this discussion, it's to stimulate ideas of
helping the next generation develop their own mindsets, not Google
the answer.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
That's why this thing is. This thing is even the
video games and all that. It's just too much in
wonder room, too much in one room TV. But I
think he's.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Putting into the phone by that Wi Fi. But the yeah,
put in an E track. But the key is that
we have to be conscious of this. Right, it's going
so freaking fast, and COVID messed everyone up, so no
doubt a lot.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
We have a generation that's damaged.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
So even if the video games were a big thing
when my kids were little, and they still are, but
I was like, my kids got bored after like a
half an hour anyway, yeah someone twelve hours.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I'm like no. If they started doing it a lot,
I was like, get out of there. That's enough.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
You have to have rules at the dinner table.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Both. Yeah, you have to wear a shirt. You can,
you can Donald talk it, you don't have to, but
you have to wear a shirt. Shirt and the table.
He did.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
But again I didn't have to wear pants.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
My father in law used to come in. None of
us have pants on Sunday. Then he had a velcro
twel and nothing else. You prayed that velcro work.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Come on. First two dates with her, I was like,
oh my god, this guy comes to dinner like this
every Sunday. Was he funny too? Ah, he thinks he is.
He's a good guy. He does a lot for the vets.
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
There he goes.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
But anyway, I think that there's you know.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
This idea of topics because the other thing we used
to do, who's the guy Bob Ross who paints happy?
Speaker 6 (23:34):
You can see him on Pluto TV, the whole channel TV.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Man he's been dead, like you.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Get twenty four hours a day.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
You could watch.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Immediately, need to know.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
But if I may finish, just kidding, but we would
if you do Bob Ross, like we'd all get one.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
My dad was, you know, kind of going down.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
So he'd bed painting like red, but they teach you
you dap here, dap here, So we'd all do it
and then you know, kind of show each other our paintings.
But it was another way to get out and do
something together that was outside the box. And after a
while you kind of got decent at it, you know,
and it was a lot of fun. And I think
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we man in the arenas about us facing challenges, not
you know the guy on TV saying today big things happen,
just like yesterday. We're talking with people that are in
this arena and dealing with this and addressing something that
is kind of behind the scenes, but it's coming, you know.
And when spending time with the Carsons, I was able
(24:42):
to really step back and say, you know, David and Goliath,
the story that has a lesson how do they how
do you learn your foundation? If you can get the
answer right, kids do stupid things they're supposed to, That's
how they learned. Do you ever do anything stupid?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
No?
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Too many? No, too many? I would think not you
never never see.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Yeah, that would probably not got that from the movie.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
No, I actually did that. Do you remember you first?
Do you remember a moment of learning a lesson by
doing something stupid.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Oh yeah, Like anytime you got in trouble in school,
you were like, hey, definitely shouldn't have done that. They
call your parents and you go to the principal.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I got in trouble for bringing certain things to school,
showing the mayor of massive peoplea centerfold. I want to
see a pretty girl, firecracker, stink bombs. Yeah, well I
was screaming, screaming for attention. But did you learn a
lot of trouble. You would think that I would learn,
and it took a while. But again, I I rely
(25:49):
on that myth or that or that thought that it
takes about twenty five years for the male brain to
fully like come into its own and to make good decisions.
Because I tested that. Oh, I think that's that's the average.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I was around thirty two.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
But yeah, way above average.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Well we done. We did dumb things.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
No, but that's that's that's the point the rock. Yeah,
well I have a book full of dumb things. But
the point was a dumb thing that taught you a lesson.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
My childhood girlfriend and I were riding our bikes and
the ice creaman truck man invited us into the ice
cream truck.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Oh boy, oh wait was it?
Speaker 8 (26:27):
You invited us into the ice cream truck and we
went in. He's like, take whatever you want, so we did.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
How old were you with this?
Speaker 8 (26:37):
We were riding bikes, so what were we? Eleven twelve?
Were riding bikesround neighborhood. And I got home and I
showed my mom all this ice cream and I was
so happy. I was like, look at all this ice cream.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
My god.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I didn't have to pay for it. And I definitely
learned that. Probably it was hard. I've learned a lesson
about ever going into somebody's truck agout, but I learned that.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I learned that.
Speaker 8 (26:57):
I learned that lesson immediately, and I never went in
the ice cream truck again.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Did you think at the time that there was like afterwards,
when Mom pointed it out that it was wrong, did
you look back and say, wow, you know what that
was dangerous?
Speaker 8 (27:09):
I did, because she really scared up to who he's
out of me. I learned a serious lesson. I never
got into an ice cream truck.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
And now you get I never got you.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
But don't you sir.
Speaker 8 (27:24):
If it was a mississ Sophie, I'd probably consider it
because I really looked like I might.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
But regular.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
But now we get on an app and a stranger
shows up and we get in the call.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
That back to the text messages that my son doesn't
know this girl, and I'm like, I don't understand how
this can happen when we don't know her.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
I think was reversed and you were talking to your
daughter in a situation.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
The people that think about is to think of those
situations and then use something like the Bible or quote
or a hobby something to reevaluate the communication. Because my
nephew dude was over and it's so hard to talk
to me. You can't get them to talk, you know,
and you're.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Think and we talked about this earlier thought. Certainly covid
UH influence definitely.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
It is parents.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
It's from four years old. Don't stand behind my knee,
go say hi to him. This is company, this is
our friend, this is all. My kids are pretty good
with that socially, because I was always like that, right
and I, you know, and I can't stand when the
parents are he's shy, Well tell him not to be shy.
Speaker 9 (28:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
This is how you live in the real world. Go
see and sometimes it's relatives of mine.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
When my nieces were little, I said to my brother
Kevin once, I'm like, you know, I never even help you.
You know your kids, Well they're sh well, I'm there
their uncle, so I don't let them in the ice
cream truck.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Yeah, I was going to ask, did you that's tarantine?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
You got to stay on top of all. You know,
it's firmly more not the going on.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
That was a big lessons.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Thank goodness.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
You say other trucks are probably off base too.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
He didn't tell me about the APS truck one of those.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I love anything that plays music. Don't get it.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Well, that's a good lesson.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
It's a very good lesson, and I did learn it
right away.
Speaker 8 (29:16):
I mean my mom took it to the wherever you
can take it to about me getting kidnapped, getting killed,
getting murdered, getting the whole entire thing.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
I really was scared.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
You might want to check this thing out.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
That's this thing too, where like we used to go
out for six hours, seven hours, get in trouble, come home.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
No parents never knew. Right now with this thing, you
worry all the time.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
You can't get in touch with for ten minutes and
every horror story goes through your head right until you're
get in touch.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
With the bottom line of this discussion comes from the
AI and the lack of trust is what is the
damage that that's doing? And how do we understand that
we're in an age it's completely different.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
You know.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
The good thing when I was researching life back man,
I was able to find stuff. We the ability to
accomplish great things. Yeah, because we can get information and
make progress by seeing what was done. The problem is
if we just embrace what was done and not using
it to do other things. And in this instance, especially
here in the Carsons technique and their kids are amazing
(30:19):
that we need to reincorporate the understanding that this situation
is going on, right, and maybe me a little more
conscious of creating discussions right and even more so you know,
not everyone learns not to get an ice cream truck,
but even more so learning.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
You want some candy?
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Learning more foundational values right, right, Because not only do
we learn you know that if you take a hammer
and you smashing nail and your hands there, you're going
to hit it, right, but we also learn to be kind,
to be aware, to be considerate, to be friendly, but
not jumping ice cream trucks, to interact and to build
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our own foundation that helps us with our kid There
your own Cantons livebook.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I'm curious, doctor Ben Carson, and you spend time with
him me playing pool and he's talking about raising his kids,
raising his family. Were there any challenges? I mean, because
it happens to everyone, right, Were there any challenges that
they faced with their kids?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
And you know, I'm sure they did. But when you
hear about the kind of the world they were brought
up in, I think they get addressed early. If you
take a proverb and discuss its up and down and stuff,
you're kind of starting to really build someone that has
a solid backing. Right. These thousand year old lessons are
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useful today.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Right, So a lot of.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Their kids were brought up understanding their foundation, you know,
so you know the ice cream truck thing that you know, there.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Were proverbs about don't getting the ice cream truck.
Speaker 8 (32:06):
I think I think part of this is also not
only knowing the proverbs and studying and having those conversations,
but it's also the actual relationship you have with your children.
Because my son literally tells me everything again, things I
don't always want to know, but he knows that he
can tell me because I'm going to listen. I might
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flip out a little bit because I've been known to
do that, but we have a trust with each other,
and I think that that's also important that the parents
make a safe place for the children to be able
to come and tell them anything without me judging him.
Although I just judged him on TV radio. I did
literally just judge him, But he's twenty one now. He
needs to get over that.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
It's a healthy concern that'tural a parent.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
How did you?
Speaker 4 (32:51):
How did you become such a fierce person for the elderly?
Like is there something in childhood?
Speaker 8 (32:58):
Like my mom says that even when I was little,
I just gravitated to them. And I firmly believe, and
I am not a Bible religious any kind of person
like that, but I believe in my heart that God
asked me to do this for him because he can't
do it right now. He's not here on earth, and
he needed somebody to advocate and love these people. And
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he just told me at some point that it was
going to be me. And I don't have anything else
I can do except actually do this.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Well, you know that it's almost that it's an interesting
fact that they're constantly talking about elder housing, elder care facilities.
They didn't exist because people stayed home, you know. We
took the elderly. You know, grandparents lived with me until
they die, you know. And I think if that's another
piece of the puzzle that we have to maintain in
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our heads, is a changing world.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yes, we're gonna I took care of my grandfather.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
When I was a little kid, which is beautiful.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
It's a gift we got away, Like Pat, you will
take care of your grandfather.
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Speaker 3 (34:51):
Kid, Hey everyone, we're back. Welcome back to the man
in the Arena. I'm Rick Thatcher along with Patrick O'Rourke,
Arthur Lee and then sing Home Warrior Danielle. We were
just hearing about the reason or your why as to
your calling to be such a fierce defender of the elderly.
And it's it says a lot, Arthur was alluding to.
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It says a lot about our society and in comparison
to other societies that you know, how we respect and
treat the elderly.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
But he is he is the bigger picture right then.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Carson mcame the world renowned surgeon and incredible human being,
but his early years he had anger issues and you
know he's brought up in poverty and his ability to
change came from God in the Bible and the proverbs
and reading the Bible and his wife too.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
So there is a Tony Robbins do what works right.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
So when I was success clues, Yeah, he would always say,
if you want to be a great golfer, do what
Tiger Woods does, you know?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
So I was taking that in that.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
You know, there's a statistic and it goes back to
games to count something like eighty percent of ententrepreneurs played
sports and eighty percent.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Of convicts didn't.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
And it's really dramatic. Yeah, it's really dramatic. But once again,
that's where my brain circled into breaking sticks and talking
about this, because I said, if someone uses a path
to become that great, I mean, you're a neurosurgeon, you
ran for president, you've been the housing director, you have
a credible family, and him and his wife are just
(36:30):
awesome together.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Maybe we should do stuff like that to become like that.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Right, So with this world and not this world that's
the Bible, how do we get there?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
And why not just follow his lead?
Speaker 3 (36:44):
How did he do it? Does he give credit to
the Bible to God without that no turnaround? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Absolutely, you don't know doctor.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Ben Carson as the incredible human being that he is.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Yeah, but his ability, I mean he's a neurosurgeon, which
isn't hugely difficult, but he was able to rely on
these this book, these words, Like you said, I started
to read the Bible about a sentence in.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
And I'm like, I don't even know what's going on.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Right, So when he mentioned the proverbs with a little
bits of wisdom. I said, that's not my alley. So
maybe we can incorporate not be intimidated by this book
cliff notes exactly proverbs cliff notes of the Bible.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
It supposedly doctor Stanley's Bible is he has like little
cliff notes on the side of it. But like you're
supposed to interpret your own way though, right, you can't
just see thought.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Well, that's why I thought.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
The proverb discussion was good because you can interpret it.
You can interpret the mic. Maybe we'll do it, but.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
It's basically the same thing at all. The lessons in it,
you know, be good, be generous, Yeah, help your fellow men.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
But a lot of them are you know, talk about
like pulling out a depression or there are actual issues
that it addresses that make you talk about things. And
I think that was what he was able to use
those moments to overcome things with some guidance. And if
we share with our kids or in our lives, you know,
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you know someone you kind of can talk to them
by using something to stimulate that discussion and get us
out of the day to day brain. All right, people
spiral down all the time. How he stop them, you know?
Speaker 1 (38:24):
And how do we get people to talk again? I'm
going to fat kid. Oh yeah, I know, did you
start tomorrow? But I'll talk to not at all. I
talk too much. Do you actually will get rid of me?
Speaker 7 (38:37):
No?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
They just called me from minutes from North Carolina. Now
you got to dance around on the screen.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Maybe if they won't be I'll take pictures. I'll do
it shirtless.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
We talk about the size of this book, Arthur, the
Holy Bible which you have here, and there's other ways
to make it, uh, you know, connect to today's world.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
We have.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
A gift that was just given to us by one
of our most dedicated and loyal followers, Lisa Warner. It
is perfect and it breaks it down for like little
daily lessons. I remember from college I was introduced to
a publication called Our Daily Bread. Great organization where you know,
you have a little book. It looks like a day planner,
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but it's got a little like life lesson and then
it relates back to parts of the Bible that you
can you know, learn more.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Tea, I guess part of me was saying, I wish
I had known this when she was little, because it's
such a cool way to discuss things. Now.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
I've tried page pretty good job for.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Us as creative roads and thorns, and you know, trying
to infiltrate and ask what you know was challenged just
different ways. But if we were able to help others,
it would be using topic maybe to help. And this
is a great source of these topics that once again
this death machine is also a live machine. Google and
(40:02):
say proverb for tonight and you'll get one right. So
you got something to talk about. No doubt that you're pondering.
What are you?
Speaker 5 (40:09):
I think it's more like you want to be a
catalyst to your kids and your loved ones about teach
me the things that you had. But there's a guy
who wrote a book. It's called Coach. It's only like
ninety pages. And he went to high school with Peyton
and Eli Manning private school down in New Orleans. He
was the football, basketball, and baseball coach. And like everyone
who had this coach, he was there for thirty years.
It was like he was better than I learned more
(40:31):
from him than the Bible I learned. And he taught
you life lessons about being a man, you know, taking
responsibility for what you're doing. If you came in five
out pounds overweight. You know, you committed to that, and
the parents used to call and complain and he'd be like,
then fire me, and no one ever fired him because
they the guy was around for thirty five years. Thirty
thirty five years. I'll bring the book and it's a
(40:51):
great book.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
It's right, coach. I love it.
Speaker 5 (40:52):
But it reminds me of almost like a Bible type thing, right,
and everyone wants to be a catalyst every well not everyone,
but there's people out there who that's who you learn
from simply called coach.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
But that's kind of why I introduced Bob Roth or
or whatever you know TV. I don't care his ability
to set limits, show that teamwork and commitment and all
the values coaches, that's why that's the exists. Coaches raised
me me too. I was for he was for our
(41:21):
dad's died, so we basically were raised by coaches.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Who's the coach in your life? Call? Was that you.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Question, mister till?
Speaker 7 (41:30):
Really?
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah, that's cool man? He was cool, dude. What about you,
ice cream man?
Speaker 7 (41:40):
You know who?
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Wait, let's check that out.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Who in your life was someone that kind of you learned?
Speaker 6 (41:46):
Or my mom my mom, who do you tear up
with a very strong woman, very very strong woman. She
gave me a lot of life lessons.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Definitely, she did good now helping the well that obviously
we all did.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Okay, so we our foundations were solid, our parents or
or coaches in you guys cases, facing something so tough
so young, there is a way. But I think back
then it was more natural coach. Now we're probably getting
trouble for what that guy did.
Speaker 5 (42:16):
The problem, that's the problem with our generation too, is
the threat used to be I'm going to call home
and be like, don't call home, Yeah, please pick you
up for fireworks. I was like to take me to
exactly around. Now you call home and they back up
the kid. Yeah, Well, once every kid lies, we all lie.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
We are conscious of this situation, I think is part
of which this show could do right to say these
things or remember people that influenced and say does my
kid have that? And if not, let's open the world
up to a foundational discussion. That's what I felt in
the Carson House, that their foundation was so solid that
(42:54):
he could go on to be a brain surgeon from
nothing with no fault. So bad temper got in trouble
all the time, had guy, Yeah, and that it was
like twelve yeah, but that was the moment that he
started his Bible pursuit because he said, I can't control this.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
You got to take it.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
And and whether it was the interaction Guy or his
belief that it did, he was done. He got rid
of his anger and he said I cannot go down
this path. I will not make it. I need help
to get rid of his anger. I forget where was
he dressed? Where was he raised? Detroit bad neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Well, he grew up in very tough time, no dad,
and uh, you know his bomb worked crazy.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
I was besides the Bible, does he cite anyone his mom?
Speaker 5 (43:42):
And teachers he was like a child prodigy, was a
genius and like teaches quote onto it right away and
like this kid's a genius.
Speaker 9 (43:48):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (43:49):
He also worked, Oh yeah, like really hard, which I
think another thing we tend to kind of slack off on.
I remember I had a chop wood. I chopped a
lot of wood in my life because my father said
we want to have fire logs. I found down the block,
You're gonna chop We'd be going out. I'd be dressed
to be like, just chop the wood for us to
be like, I guess chopping wood in my kapezi. That's
(44:12):
another We all cut our own loan.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
I didn't have.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
I cut my loan and kpezios. No, you'll cut our
own lawn. We all oh yeah, And now this generation
doesn't do it, and it's you know, I don't know.
It trives me nuts. My kids did it. And there
was you know, at a baseball game one time and
they were like, oh, we're having a pool party. Go yeah,
cod as soon as you cut the loan, you can,
and he was like twelve, and every other mother was like,
cuts the lawn. He cut his hand off, like yeah,
(44:36):
we all cut our hands off, and look at the
landscapes have one hand.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Everyone's cutting their hands off.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
This generation we have, any non eight fallists will look
at me like that's what I said.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
I'm like, we'll just tell them he's cutting the lawn.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Hey, you know, it's time for a quick break. We're
going to be back with rain preb Misster three thousand.
He's gonna on this topic join us on the other side.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 9 (45:13):
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Speaker 1 (45:57):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
We had I had some work to go over with
him and get some advice on because god, I can
go to him for advice.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
And then we just hung out. She made lunch just
that's me. Took a couple of hundred bucks off me.
He beat me, but and you know you let him
within him like no, we beat me. I would know
was a brain surgeon. You know what was cool about that?
Speaker 3 (46:23):
You guys know we're back right.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
He had this.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
I just want to welcome back to the man arena,
we're talking about Carson.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
And COM's like I am a surgeon, soft hands.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
It was amazing.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
So I don't know if the radio audience Ray is
going to be joining us in a second. But I
don't know if the radio audience that's listening over the
weekend was uh privy to what we were just privy to.
And that is the advertisement that doctor Ben Carson does
for It's just so heartfelt and so genuine and so honest,
and it's such an honor. I really would because he's
(46:57):
such a soul, great gentleman. But let us wait no further,
mister three thousand, great.
Speaker 7 (47:04):
Preb Hey, hey, hey, what a great topic tonight, guys.
I love it, absolutely great topic.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
All right, buddy, you're on the spot. What are your techniques?
I mean, you have had numerous children in your life
from various areas.
Speaker 7 (47:25):
I'll say so, yes, yes we have. We have a
big household, five kids. Yeah, you know, we have adopted kids,
we have our kids. We you know, it's a very
blended household. And uh, one thing that we continue. Number one,
we always have dinner at the table, no phones, absolutely
no phones. So we sit down, we have a meal
(47:47):
and we talk and of course in today's world, you
have to force your kids to talk right. So again
I can't we my wife when I came up with,
you know, besides the how was your day it was,
tell me something good, tell me something bad, and tell
me something other otherwise about your day?
Speaker 1 (48:07):
I dig it.
Speaker 7 (48:08):
You can't can't just say oh, the day was good
and move on. No, what was good about it? What
was bad about it? And of course we usually get oh,
lunch was good, well great? What about lunch? Who did
you sit with? What did you guys talk about? Was
it a big crowd? You know? Who was involved? Again,
so you continuously have to dig and dig and dig
in today's world where there is so wrapped up in
(48:32):
when they're so wrapped up in their phones, and you
know all they want to do is you know, text
or TikTok or what.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
Did you think of the Carson's basically a topic meaning
a proverb and saying love.
Speaker 7 (48:46):
It, absolutely love it. And it was funny because as
I was listening to that, I came up with a
new idea that I'm going to start this this school
year with my kids. I want them to compare their
day to a Bible verse.
Speaker 6 (49:01):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
Love it.
Speaker 7 (49:03):
It was good compared to something in the Bible. It
was bad compared to something in the Bible. We are
a very devout Christian household. Uh. And it goes beyond
going to church every Sunday. We we pray together, we
talk together, we worship together. We you know, we bring
our problems and our praise to God on on a
(49:26):
daily weekly basis. I find it extremely important to build
that foundation, especially in today's youth where they are so
wrapped up with you.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
We have to be conscious as to kind of what
the discussion was.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
I knew you would be.
Speaker 4 (49:42):
My thought is the the cool thing when I thought
about Ben Carson and me and you saying give me
an open topic, but it'd be the interpretation right, not
necessarily finding it, but saying, how does that make you
think or feel exactly that one?
Speaker 7 (50:00):
You know?
Speaker 4 (50:01):
And I think it would stimulate and I think for
us too, write they may say something. Look, I had
early on with life that I met a doctor and
he was also a neurologist, and I gave my life
back and he looks at real quick and he goes,
this is genius. And I'm like, you're like a brain surgeon.
(50:21):
He's like, yeah, so the outside of the box with
a genius never thought of just using a sink plunder.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
So I think that there's that exists.
Speaker 4 (50:29):
If we present them with a topic or a psalm
or something, they may come up with something that we never.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
Even thought of because they are they are seeing different things.
Speaker 7 (50:41):
So it's amazing. And I've had these conversations you know
with my kids. What does that mean to you that
I love that, Yeah, because I'm really open. It gives
them the ability to think, and it also gives it
gives their impression their opinion on something that you have
an opinion on and it could be letely different, you know,
(51:02):
when you share that topic, when you share that information,
it creates such a foundation for your family that you
can build on.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Yeah, and you may, you know, we'll learn something, you know, And.
Speaker 7 (51:13):
Oh absolutely absolutely, you know.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
And I was I have this theory and it's particularly
surrounded around the neurological diseases because they're electrical, right, It's
an electrical problem. And we have this realm of people
that keep massaging similar answers or techniques. And I'm always
curious if you know a computer guy or an electrician
(51:37):
or a physicist if someone else was in the conversation,
if they might go you got it short and they
go what and they go you need a little duct
tape And the doctor says that'd be x y Z
again and he goes, yeah, what are you guys talking about?
Speaker 7 (51:52):
Right?
Speaker 1 (51:53):
We have to not be afraid to get out of
the box.
Speaker 4 (51:56):
Right, So we present a psalm to you know, ten
year old we might be like and it may create
answers we never knew or uncovered problems that we don't
even know are they are because we never did that
we were ten that was packed out of the house,
seeing Bayden the street lights come on.
Speaker 1 (52:14):
You know, hope you live, you live.
Speaker 7 (52:17):
Some of the conversations that you can have with kids
are just absolutely mind blowing. They're not afraid to share
their opinion and they're not afraid of what people think.
So it's when they give you their opinion, it's wholehearted
opinions on how they think. And as an adult you
can sit back and say, wow, I would have never
thought of that. Afraid to think.
Speaker 4 (52:38):
Along the lines of Ben Carson's kids being brought up
in this world and being very successful and him relying
on this I've met your kids.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
I love them.
Speaker 4 (52:47):
They're polite, they're fun, they are conscientious. They are what
kids are supposed to do. Like you said, Pat, you know,
you go and you introduce yourself, and you know, I
think that that there is a connection right to that,
and I I thought you would get a kick out
of today's discussion.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
That's why I wanted to bring on a little early.
Speaker 7 (53:07):
And absolutely love it. I do. And again I think
it falls back a lot on old school raising. You know,
you have to teach your kids how to present themselves,
how to act around uh people's houses. You know, you
don't walk in the house and go crazy, you know,
And a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
Hasn't learned that I'm working. I mean when I went
the car running around and jumping on the couch, drinking
out of the toilets, and we didn't like that, you know.
Speaker 3 (53:39):
Ray every week people, it's there the numbers. It's not
better yet to the numbers.
Speaker 7 (53:46):
For the.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Here we go the.
Speaker 7 (53:52):
Show for our whole audiences right here. Uh and Bobby,
Bobby roll that footage for me.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
Say at hire oh see four thousand three twenty two
of your over.
Speaker 3 (54:12):
Two thousand six and forty two got children thousand.
Speaker 7 (54:16):
Six hundred and forty three children. Oh and by the way,
it's four thousand, three hundred twenty three saves. The other
one we had another save, so we have five saves
today this alone.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (54:32):
In the last minute, unbelievably, we're going long tonight. But
in the last minute, do you have a save of
the week?
Speaker 7 (54:38):
Oh? Wait, hold the phone, Hold the phone. I do
have a highlight of the week. And oh it's a
good one. Oh it's a it's a it's a good one.
Really like, yeah, I got goosebumps on this one. It's
it's a really good one. Highlight of the week. Good
Samaritan and EMS worked together to save a four year
(55:01):
old girl from in Texas who choked on a hot dog,
resulting in total obstruction. The patient was unconscious. BLS protocol
was followed followed on the second application of life back.
It successfully dislodged the obstruction and the patient received medical
(55:21):
attention with no complications found. I mean, that's a four
year old. I gotta I got a quick bit to that.
I was at a Fourth of July event at a
park up the street. The family of a little girl
was sitting next to me. The family started the panic
(55:42):
she was excuse me, she was blue and not breathing.
EMUs responded quickly as they were on scene for the
emergency during an event. During the event, they attempted to
disload the obstruction, but we're having difficulty. I ran in
my car, grabbed my life back and gave it to
the first responders. They saved her. I thank God for.
Speaker 4 (56:06):
Life Backpropri's got my hand on the Bible, actually at
my elbow.
Speaker 3 (56:11):
Because it was way Tell them, tell us what you
told me.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
Just kidding.
Speaker 7 (56:14):
God was on him all right, life back. Better to
have it and not need it than need it and
not have it. The life you save could be your own.
Love you, guys, I'm black.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
Thank you, Thank you so much for which one you
Nrina on their pasture along paddle work Arthur League and
Danielle the nursing home Warrior and Micro is going to
take us home. So we'll see you next.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
Week down country road. It's no joke.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
When you choke life back and without breath, they'll be
death to life back, and.
Speaker 1 (56:55):
Life back, and
Speaker 2 (56:58):
Life back, life back and live, life back and live
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